ZHIYUN CRANE 2S | REVIEW | Our New Favourite Gimbal for the Blackmagic Pocket Cinema Camera 6K
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- Here is my review of the Zhiyun Crane 2S. Such a great gimbal for our BMPCC6K.
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As always this is my honest opinion after using the Crane 2S for a week.
In this video I will talk about my experience shooting with this gimbal, what we use it for, how if differs from the Weebill S, what I like and don’t like about it and whether or not I would recommend it.
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Here is my review of the Zhiyun Crane 2S.
Is it on your list ? :)
Cheers,
Flo
Thanks for that wonderful review. A little hint: Sometimes I found it difficult to understand your voice when the bg-music is playing parallel. Maybe using “ducking” could help to make listening easier. Thanks 🙏
Brian de la Cruz Thanks for watching !! I’ll keep that in mind, thank you.
Hello! What about Object tracking by using camera phone ? I can't find this option in the app.
@@Triet90 You need the Zhiyun-Tech TransMount Wireless Video Transmitter Module for that funtion/option.
@@OfTwoLands I am considering getting this gimbal; I have the same Sigma 18-35mm lens, however I'm using an original (OG) BMPCC. Do you think I will be able to easily balance that camera/lens combination on this gimbal?
Really enjoyed our hike that morning :) xx
Yeah me too, was perfect for the test :) xx
Your Colour Correction is Amazing! i love how all the colours feel super life like and they pop right out of the frame!
Thanks a lot, really glad you like it :). Made a video about how I colour grade if you’re interested 👍
I bought one a couple of weeks ago. Quite impressed with it. I also ordered the SmallRig dual handgrip, which arrived today. Now that is something I highly recommend. It attaches above the controls, so with the centre of balance there, it’s a lot easier to hold. Quite simple to attach and remove as well.
Glad to hear and thanks for the tip :) !!
thank you for your thorough and honest reviews!
Thanks for watching !!
loved the review! my Zhiyun Crane 2S is coming in today I am so excited I also have the same camera and lens combo Sigma 18-35mm as you do :)
Thanks man, have fun :) !!
I really liked the hiking side by side comparison. That really made the video for me. I've been thinking to get a gimbal for my bmpcc4k, but still have yet to pull the trigger one it. I kind of preferred the handheld shot on that comparison! There's something about handheld that creates a more immersive feeling for me as a viewer! If I did get a gimbal, it would be this one though. Great vid as always!
Thank you !! I also do prefer handheld, I only gimbal when absolutely needed as you can see from my work :). I made a whole video about shooting handheld so feel free to check it out.
Thank you for that great review. Does the 6K (with cage) fits/passes the tilt motor arm without any offsetting?
great video, do you think you could attach a small focus rig on the lens and have sb pull focus while you operate? probably would require to add some counter weights then?
Well that's that - I'm getting one. Thanks for the review! Keep up the good work
Thanks for watching !!
Great review! Thanks for making quality content! :)
Thanks for the positive feedback !!
I bet this film will bump Crane 2s sales 😊 It is very tempting. For my Crane 2 I have a Zhiyun Shoulder Bracket. It is of course not small, but it can take the load off the arms. Excellent review
Haha !! Thank you :)
I was looking to purchase Ronin S and now you have changed my mind, awesome review!! THANKS!
KATO Thanks a lot :) !!
Was ready to order one... now I m definitely gonna do it! hahahaha Great review my friend!
Haha glad I could help !! Thanks :)
Great video. Extremely informative. Will likely buy this gimbal.
Thank you, happy shooting :) !!
Your work is insane man, 👍
Thanks so much !! :)
Great review once again! The gimbal looks nice. Do you still recommend it in 2021 and will it work with the bmpcc4k aswell?
Will these 3 little batteries in the gimbal also charge the camera, if yes how long can you shoot with them 12 hours like you sayd?
Thats crazy! Looks much better then to mount a big battery somewhere. Last question :) Would you recommend the Panasonic 12-35 lens for the bmpcc4k or the sigma 18-35? It would be my very first camera like this and my plan is to shoot landscapes like in your video at 4:28. From what i seen on youtube i really like the look of the 12-35!! But i have no idea about all of it so i need to ask before i buy :) Thx
Thank your for the review! Could you make a video about how you shoot handheld? That would be nice!
stille.bilder Thanks !! I’ll keep that idea in mind for sure. I do talk about shooting in my Travel cinematography and Shooting in the cold :).
Awesome man! Thank you for this!
Twisted Wizardry Thanks for watching !!
This video made me buy the Crane 2S.
Thank you. Have a great video life.
Glad to hear, thanks for watching and have fun :) !!
Great review! Love your content :) I'm planning on purchasing this gimbal for my BPCC6K, and I was wondering how safe it is to relocate the back motor at a low angle? Was the wire hard to tuck in? Did the motor cause any issues with your camera + setup after adjusting it? Thank you!!!
Thank you :) !! No issues so far, just have to be careful not to pinch or squeeze the cable too hard. I have seen a few videos on YT on how to do it in detail :).
This is amazing! Few questions! What settings do you have for recording to get your flat colour before colour grading? Also do you have your lens on auto focus and focus through the gimbal?
Tarun Sundersingh Thanks very much !! I shot in Film. And no I don’t have auto focus, I focus before and keep the distance :).
What an awesome review! I´ve thinking about purchasing the 2S by a couple of weeks but now I´m definitely gonna do that. Just a couple of questions. With the gimbal, are you just using LP6 batteries to power the camera? And what about the footage? CFast or SD? Thank you!
Thanks a lot !! Yes I use LP6 and for cards Cfast only :)
Hey Flo. Great review, really in-depth. I've had this question for some time now and its driving my crazy. I have already searched every forum for this but... at 5:25 you show us the camera control with the usb-c cable. I have the same setup as you but I can't get the camera control to work... are you using any specific settings that you didnt show in the video? if not then my last guess would be that it only works on older firmware. Anyways, thanks!
Hey, thanks !! I am not sure why yours isn't working :(. I used the supplied cable and didn't do anything else special. I remember the Aperture setting to be glitchy for some reason but it still was connected.
@@OfTwoLands ah rip me then, well thanks for the reply!
Thanks for the helpful review! I’m curious if you can use the core battery back on the gimbal? Or does it make it too heavy?
Thanks for watching !! You can attach it to the Crane yes, it's heavy but could work. I still prefer internal ones since it's easy and quick to swap :).
Nice, also can you control the focus with the wheel on the side of the Zhiyun for the Sigma 18 - 35?
my question would be since you use the USB c to control the camera can it be split with a hub so you can use an SSD at the same time?
My favourite feature of this gimbal is the built in follow focus wheel for autofocus lenses
Awesome review, being a Pocket 6K owner I am looking for a solid gimbal but leaning towards the Crane 3s only because of the 6 kg payload. I want to keep my camera fully caged with rails and all (super heavy I know ) but enjoy the challenges.
Leah and Jason Thanks !! Let me know how you go, keen to see the setup 😊👍
@ power plus battery pack? Why?
@ and about using more than 3kg on Crane 2s?
Is using the blackmagic 4k battery grip and the smallrig cage a good idea with this gimbal? I worry for battery life
Great video! Will the Stabilizer have enough power to work with Sigma 50-100?
Sergey Rosinskiy Thank you !! Not sure about that since I don’t have it. I don’t think the weight would be a problem, but not 100% sure regarding the size though.
you sold me this now. ordering tomorrow morning! i hope i dont regret cause i saw some bad comments about it with sigma 18-35 and full cage but i trust you as always :D Ty for being quick!
Haha no worries !! I haven't had any issues with it so not sure what were the problems. You can see that it worked for me :). The footage video was shot entirely with that setup.
Of Two Lands yep i only have step up ring - uriv - bpm - variable nd on the lens but i dont think it will make balance problems, what do you think
It is very nice to be able to controll the camera from the gimbal, only problem is when using ssd there is no usb port to connect to on BMPCC and Sigma fp. Wish they think of this in future cameras.
It is nice indeed. And I see your point, I shoot with CF cards so didn’t think about this.
I have the same issue here. A CF card is more expensive than an external SSD. How did you solve this problem?
Hello there ! Great video man as always ! Do you know if the control capability offered with the included USB-C to USB-C cable can be done on the Crane 2 with a branded micro-USB to USB-C cable?
Hey, thanks !! You mean on the Crane 2S or 2 ?
@@OfTwoLands I mean the original Crane 2 ;)
Thanks for u r video,I brought both 6 month before,I but never use and I don't know how do balance also. now I understand,I going to start using tomorrow
And also I have slr magic 12mm and rokinon 50mm t1.5 USM lens this both good ? Or u r recommend any good lens? Please guid me .
Thanks
Great review! Thanks! Do you plan to use Weebill S in future? - It weights less and done its job with counterweights or you will completely switch to Crane 2S?
Thanks !! I think for the bmpcc6k the Crane is much better, if I happen to shoot on the bmpcc4K then Weebill might be fine. I just like using the crane 2S because you don’t need anything else :).
Of Two Lands what the difference between 6k and 4K in that matter ?
6K is heavier and bigger at the front and takes bigger lenses so harder to balance.
Of Two Lands I have the 4K but I still want the 2s because I don’t want to carry other off plates and counters and all that. I will lose them for sure 🤣
Can you power the camera with the gimbal?
I take it you don't need an offset plate for the Bmpcc4k if you have a cage?
Love your reviews and videos…
I feel like the back motor of the gimbal is hiding the screen. Is it really problematic in your set up? Thanks
Thank you so much !! It was hiding it in the configuration it arrived but since you can remove one part of the gimbal it's actually fine. You can see in some of the shots that the motor sits below the screen :)
So if I use the cable to connect to the bmpcc I won't be able to record on my t5 hard drive?
With vintage lenses I find I have to add weights to them they're too light and give me vibrations so I just make them front heavy and it should be okay, as for sigma 18-35 you need to be a body builder to work all day, but Dji are way ahead now with their 3D focus system I wish I got the RS2 instead
Thanks for sharing!
Is it easier to balance the Pocket 6K on this gimbal than on the 3S ??
Thanks for watching !!
Haven’t tried the 3S so can’t really help sorry :(.
Of Two Lands ok thanks anyway
Amazing few questions? I see that u have a core swx powerbase edge battery. Have u try to mount it to the gimbal? If so can u make a video in how its mounted? Is it possible?
Thanks !! I havent't no. And I don't think I can make a video just about it sorry :(. Hopefully another person on TH-cam as done it already :)
HI !!! Can you connect with the update 8.6 Beta the bmpcc 6k pro to the zhiyun crane 2s???
Thanks for the great Review!
I ordered mine yesterday, really looking forward.
I'm a little bit scared to mount the motor in the other mode..
Did you noticed any difference in footage after your improvement?
Thanks for watching !! No didn't see any difference, just easier to shoot and a bit lighter :).
@@OfTwoLands I have to do that too, but I don't want to damage anything. I dont understand why they are deliviering it in that position.. i think everybody want the other position
I think so too.
Guys, remember that if you lower the position motor the warranty is voided, keep that in mind
@ I don't understand, why would they give you the tools to do it if it voids the warranty?
Not sure if been asked yet, but which would be better for the Blackmagic 4k. The Weebill S or this, the Crane 2S?
I liked the Weebill S for the 4K since it makes for a very compact setup but it depends on lenses as well.
@@OfTwoLands Thank you for your answer. I am torn on a choice of what gimbal is best for me. I am using a Panasonic LUMX 12-60 mm LEICA and i film travel cinematography. Do you still recommended the Weebill S with this said?.
You're a busy guy! Two days ago you move to France and now you're already reviewing new equipment. I feel so lazy in comparison....
Haha I’ve moved here a few weeks ago but yeah the past month has been hectic, making 6-7 videos. No need to compare though 😊👍
I have a question: I got my BM6K with an external SSD attached to the usb-c port. How can I attach the gimbal to my camera if I only have 1 usb-c port?
Whats the best settings for crane 2s ?
Would you say that this handles the blackmagic pocket series better than the Ronin-S? Because my Ronin-S is pretty jerky and doesn’t move too fluidly anymore.
Yes, for sure. I had the Ronin S and the bmpcc4k and it was ok but definitely not ideal because of the camera shape.
Of Two Lands Word! Yeah I’ve been having trouble with my ronin-s especially since I’m adding some cables to the side for the monitor and battery and ssd.
Is there a way to power the BMPCC6K from the gimbal? Like the cable that you can use with the ronin s?
I actually don’t know and can’t seem to find any info.
Of Two Lands okay, no problem. Thank you for this video anyways!
Great review, would you say that the 2S has smoother footage than your previous Ronin S setup (with counterweight) ? Or is it unnoticeable?
Can’t really tell or remember honesty, I think it’s more about being able to setup quicker and easier and also having a more comfortable and stronger gimbal.
@@OfTwoLands I see, thank you for your response
@@OfTwoLands Hey, so I got the gimbal after watching your review, been a couple days and I still haven't figured out why it keeps on vibrating, even though its perfectly balanced on all the axis
Tetup: bmpcc4k + viltrox ef m2 speedbooster + sigma 18-35 + smallrig fullcage + t5 ssd & holder
The footage came out very smooth, but no matter what angle I hold the gimbal, it keeps on vibrating, and it intensifies when the camera points upwards.
Do you experience this issue too?
@@vinjemmy Did you get it to work correctly?
@@sujaykhona7227 Yes I did.
I don't remember exactly how I did it 7 months ago, but the trick is to put as little weight to the far left.
The problem was the Pocket 4k being so left heavy, that the motors wasn't strong enough, even though it was perfectly balanced.
Hope this helps you
Great video! My BM 6K Pro is arriving today. Do you need the cage to use the camera with this gimbal? TIA!
Did you end up buying a cage? I'm in the same predicament
What setup are you using for these close-up product shots? Is this a slider or that gimbal?
My hands and a tripod :) !!
Hello sir
I bought black magic 6k G2 recently
i am trying to buy gimbal could you suggest a gimbal in budget
And is this useful to 6k g2 now? Should I go other
Please suggest me
Thank you ❤❤
From India
Would you recommend this or weebill s for the bmpcc4k?
Barnaby Fredric The Crane 2S is better since it is more powerful and you can use the bmpcc without counterweights for any lenses. That being said if you travel a lot or need a smaller and lighter setup then the Weebill S might be better for you.
Nice one I think I will be getting it has I own the 6k
Thanks !! Have fun :)
Is it better or worse than the Ronin S for the Pocket 4k if using Sigma 18-35 w/ Metabones?
I think better, more power and no need for counterweights or extra plates.
Can you use that gimbal with a vmount battery on your black magic camera specifically the power base
Yeah I guess you can attach it if you want to the actual gimbal :).
is it as heavy as Ronin S with counterwieghts? I have Pocket4K. i rented Ronin and it was a nightmare
was choosing between this one and Weebil S. are really the same weight when Weebil S is with counterweights?
I think it is as heavy yes, pretty much the same especially with the ones for the Sigma 18-35 but more comfortable and feels more solid too.
Solid gimbal!
Sure is !!
I saw you changed the position of the motor. Can such a motor position bear the weight of bmpcc6k + 18-35? Do you have a reference video for this configuration? I am considering whether to change the motor position. Because I saw some bad comments. Thank you for your suggestions.
Yes it can, half of the footage video I posted last week was shot using that setup :).
@@OfTwoLands thank you!!
@@OfTwoLands How to adjust the strength of your motor? Can you provide some reference data?
Hello. Could you give some batery solution for using bmpcc 6k with this gimbal? What do you use?
Hi, I always use the internal canon ones when on a gimbal but you could use anything mounted underneath like a v lock for example.
What settings do you use for Torque? I cant get mine to stop vibrating.
Use the lowest
How do you handle battery power on the 6k? I heard it drains the LP-6 like in 25 minutes
Roberto Soto Haha it really doesn’t. Not sure why people complain so much. I get 40mins at least. For this video I’ve used 3 per shoot which lasted 2-3hrs each 👍
Do you know if you can use the 6k Pro with 18-35 on this one?
I haven't tried it but I think I was people using it. Maybe check out the forum on the Blackmagic Website :)
But what batteries are you using for the bmpcc?? Do you have like 6 batteries on hand?
Aaron May Haha, nope. Only used 3 per shoot.
what do you use to focus on your gimbal?:)
My hands :). I usually set focus before the shot and keep the distance.
Anyone try this gimbal with 6k pro? Does it fit and balance with the sigma 18-35
Asking myself the same and would be grateful to receive an answer :-)
I got mine at B&H, Black Friday, for $329!
Nice one!!
What do you do about the battery of the bmpcc?
I’m ok with the internal ones when on a gimbal. Is not this whole gimbal shoot on 4 Canon ones :)
I just recieved mine today, but have some issues with the tilt axis. I balanced my BMPCC4K really well, but the tilt axis is always vibrating a little bit. If i change Motor strengh to middle, the vibrating is unbelievable. I upgraded the software and made a auto gimbal calibration but nothing helps.. I dont really know what to do because it should work.
Alexander Barth Sorry to hear that. I’ve had vibrations when I auto calibrated only. I mean it’s normal to have a bit of vibrations. Does it actually work though? Regardless of the sound ?
And have you tried to put the motor strength to low ?
@@OfTwoLands Thanks for trying to help me! I made a short video, if you have two minutes to watch it i would be really thankfull. I explained the problem and showed my settings:
th-cam.com/video/OtNe-NI10oc/w-d-xo.html
@@OfTwoLands couldn't solve the problem .. did you watched the video?
I have the same problem as you. I have the same equipment as you. But I found a solution. Place the camera as close to the motor as possible. Do not leave a gap between the two. Do not use the automatic adjustment function. Set the motor power to minimum. Use custom motor power to adjust power.
@@lovecamera8 would love a breakdown vid of this
It works is all that matter to me
do you use a raid enclosure to edit off of ?
I do not. Mix of SSDs and fast desktop hardrives :).
@@OfTwoLands is there anyhting you would recommend? i shoot with bmpcc 6k, i want to shoot alot of 6k braw, i shoot alot of narrative films full time and edit on windows, but the speed is killing me
I use Sandisk and Samsung ssds to edit and G tech thunderbolt desktop ones to archive and sometimes to edit off :).
Can you pull focus using the USB-C port?
You have to use the Focus wheel and the additional focus motors 👍
@@OfTwoLands Thank you!
Mixed reviews on this gimbal with the bmpcc some get it to work fine .. some experience vibration and can't get the 2s to work with the bmpcc. I'm the later ugh
So sorry to hear :(. I had vibrations but only when I tried to Autotune so I use all manual balancing instead.
@@OfTwoLands i tried that to...the auto balance was definitely the worst thou the whole rig shook hard. Its weird how some could get it to work and some couldnt...still haven't found anyone who knows why.
your footage is wobbly af
Ill take 5 thanks
Etchd Photography Haha money bags !!
Is it suitable for black magic 6k pro
You can use it yes and I did multiple times but from experience the more recent Ronin RS3 Pro has more power for it!
@@OfTwoLands Thank you so much for your response. I don't have enough money to buy Rs3 pro that's why I am trying to buy budget Gimbal if crane 2s can handle it I will go through this so please clarify do I purchase...? Crane 2s
Are you actually saying BMPCC6K each sentence beeempeeseeseesixkey
Tired of all these back shots of the girl...
Can you go in underslung mode with the motor in low position?
Yes you can :)