Watched this at least 3 times start to finish, and watched several sections over and over, and it's finally clicked. I still have to think hard, and occasionally make small mistakes, but for the most part I'm able to do this in under 50 moves, at least when there's no time pressure. Thank you very much!
Thanks so much! I've tried several times (unsuccessfully) to wrap my head around this checkmate but the explanation in this video made it much easier to understand. Happy that I can finally do it!
Bishop to B5 is a double check by rook and bishop which means the king has to move, but since there are no safe square for the king to move, it is a checkmate
As always, your videos are great at taking something hard, and making it manageable. A checkmate I find similarly challenging is King and Queen vs King and Knight. It would be amazing if you could make a video to teach techniques for that
This video is awesome, it's the first time I started to understand that mating pattern ! Quick question though : what if Black king goes to c7 instead of b6 ? Not sure I understand the logic here, to prevent him from escaping on the A file...
You made that seem so easy I was wracking my brain trying to figure out how to get the king confined to the right corner....I had to use stockfish to find the most accurate moves and I still couldn't wrap my head around it but now it's starting to make sense.
i had this only twice in my life in bullet and blitz, i was a kid playing bullet back then, basically i had 5 seconds and he had 0.01 seconds and i just flagged him lol, and he got very rude after he lost saying "i would draw you if you had more time because you dont know how" so i told him to "grow up hahahah i won and you didnt :D", and since then i decided i was going to learn it for real, well YEARS later, today i mastered the W method and the 2nd time in blitz i managed to pull it off :)
A lot of strong chess players fail at this checkmate. If this weren't a difficult enough checkmate, the 50 move rule makes it much harder. This checkmate is so difficult, especially in time pressure, that in blitz or bullet, it's pretty much a guaranteed a draw. There's been a handful of games where my opponent had more material than me and they would easily win. And what I did was traded my remaining material to get the rest of their pawns. And with only a bishop and a knight remaining, my opponents constantly fail to pull off the checkmate. Either the clock or the 50-move rule will kick in and it's a draw. It's very rare to end up in this situation where you need to mate with a knight and a bishop. Don't end up in this situation if you can. It requires a lot of skill to pull this off, not to mention a lot of clock. But if you do learn this checkmate, and can pull it off consistently within the 50 moves, and within time pressure, you're better than a lot of strong chess players out there.
I did it a bunch of times (after failing quite a bit) here : lichess.org/practice/checkmates/piece-checkmates-ii/Rg2cMBZ6/9CYWkR3I. You can get good at it, but it never happened to me in a game (yet).
I tried and failed to understand this for the last 15 years. I watched your video several times and practiced for a month. I am so good at this checkmate now, I feel like a grandmaster. Thank you so much for teaching this in a way normal people can understand and actually be successful check mating. You have my respect and sincere gratitude.
Bishop on white to B5, controlling one of the two legal squares the black king can move to as well as attacking the king and making a discovered attack with the rook doing the same thing with the other square.
The hardest part for me is obtaining the initial position from which checkmate can be achieved from a random position, and that is also the part the video spends less time explaining. Are there any techniques for that or does it come down to raw calculation?
I need an explanation for this too, every knight and bishop mate explanation just goes over this so quickly, like "oh just get into the starting position" but its not at all easy, especially considering you need to keep the total of moves low enough to not go past the 50 move rule...
My meager attempt at a solution. Scanning the board I notice that there is a possibility of 'double check'. In check there are generally three choices. Block, take or move. With double check, move is the only option. For block, you can't block the two checks. To take, you can't take the two pieces. Therefore, the only choice for double check is to move. And if there is no safe move, then it is checkmate. Move the white bishop on E2 to B5, giving bishop check and exposing rook check. Black has only two moves for the black king, neither of which gets out of check. My chess terminology needs improvement. May you and yours stay well and prosper.
Nelson! At 3:29 when u say the only logical move is to go away from the corner cause he will get mated faster. What do u do if he does go to the white corner side
Thanks for this guide. Now I've learned how to checkmate with a knight and bishop (I trained on chess engines), most tedious part is cutting off opponent's king from center of the board and wrong color corner, but it is doable, once king fall into mating net, it is easy.
Nice, thank you! I used to know the W scheme, but I forgot it over the past 50+ years. Hah! My first re-learning attempt was the shrinking triangles scheme, but W is much easier.
Hi. You said that he could either go Kc6 or Kb7 from Kc7 position trying to run away into the empty board. Kc6 is beautifully explained but Kb7 is not and everything I tried after Kb7, Bc4 he always escapes. Any tips? Thanks
Last one... The puzzle mate in 1... Bishop from e2 should go to b5... Causing a discovered check a checkmate basically😂... But thank you so much for the lesson of checkmating with bishop and knight... Very educational and easy to remember 👍
I can believe i managed to learn this, i only had to whatch once. Now i only need pratice. Its honestly a lot easier that it looks, i thought only gms and title player could do it
THANK YOU! I got into the initial position but I couldn't figure out how to make it go to a8 without the king escaping towards a1. Great explanation 👍👍
pretty cool thank you. btw, i think on the second option, i think you moved the oponent king twice. not that it matters much since it was kind of giving the king a headstart for escape but following precision one extra move in some other context would make a difference.
The answer to the puzzle: B B5 or F B5#. The black king will be checked by rook and bishop simultaneously,it must be moved,it is impossible, as a result it us mate.
Puzzle solution : Bb5 dupple check which will be a checkmate scince it is dupple check king needs to move but in this case thier is no sqaures for king is a Checkmate and game over
When I tried to mate my opponent with my Bishop pair, with no other pieces on the board, the algorithm just declared a draw because of insufficient material.
My teacher said that I should practice KBN mate but I can't remember. So the teacher recommended me this yt vid. Works tho. Finally I can now mate my opponent
In the starting position, it's a bit trickier if it's *black's* move and he starts off with 1...Ke8. Now what? It can be done, but it's not very intuitive nor in keeping with the W-method. Basically, white has to find a method to achieve this same position but make it *white's* move. It's a bit awkward. White needs to temporarily push the king back toward the "safe" corner. Knowing when to "waste" a move is important with this method. 1...Ke8 2.Be6 Kf8 3.Bd7 Kg8 4.Bf5 Kf8 Voila! It's the same starting position with white's turn. White can now start the mating net with 5.Bh7. White has to know this little trick, however.
Even if the player with the lone king knows that he cannot be checkmated in the corner *not* commanded by the bishop, he should not make a beeline for that corner. The mating net begins once the king is forced to the edge of the board. Don't help your opponent by going to the edge of the board. The lone king should fight to stay in the *middle* of the board as much as a possible. Resist being forced to the edge/corner. But, eventually, the lone king will have to give ground. Only *then* should the king head for the opposite corner. Most tutorials teach the player how the "net" works and assumes that forcing the king to the edge of the board can be done easily. Actually, it's not that easy if you don't know what you're doing. If the player with the bishop & knight do not expeditiously get the opposing king to the edge of the board, he will likely exceed 50 moves even if he has a perfect understanding of what to do once the opposing king is pinned to the edge of the board. On average, it takes about 30 total moves to force checkmate. More than half of those moves is just forcing the king to the edge of the board. Fumble around with that and knowing the mating pattern won't do you any good. From the starting position in this video, it took 18 perfect moves to force checkmate. It can take far more moves than that to force a king to the edge of the board. So, you can see that any fumbling around will cause you to exceed 50 moves.
The most difficult part is forcing the King into a corner, if the black king really tries to avoid that instead of making some random moves like you did in your example, it's almost impossible to make this work
What I couldn't learn in 10 years, I learnt in 10 mins.
same here!
I'm impressed you got it first time
Watched this at least 3 times start to finish, and watched several sections over and over, and it's finally clicked. I still have to think hard, and occasionally make small mistakes, but for the most part I'm able to do this in under 50 moves, at least when there's no time pressure. Thank you very much!
I had to move the bishop to deliver mate in 1 but it ended cause 50 moves 💀
@@Sabsabi99 i feel you man
Best chess channel on the Internet!
Thanks so much! I've tried several times (unsuccessfully) to wrap my head around this checkmate but the explanation in this video made it much easier to understand. Happy that I can finally do it!
Man I've got so many draws because of this bishop and knight checkmate
That's interesting! I read somewhere that this endgame only comes up about 1 out of 6,000 games, on average.
I'm gonna start forcing this checkmate to humiliate my opponents now
Bishop to B5 is a double check by rook and bishop which means the king has to move, but since there are no safe square for the king to move, it is a checkmate
It’s also the only check and he said “it’s mate in one”
@@BuckitBoys Bd3 and Bc4 are also checks but not checkmates. Only Bb5 avoids the scape of the king
@@joansola02 also Bxf3
ye I saw that in 2 seconds even though i'm rather bad at chess
That wasn’t too hard tbh
Mam... I thought two bishops checkmate were hard...
As always, your videos are great at taking something hard, and making it manageable. A checkmate I find similarly challenging is King and Queen vs King and Knight. It would be amazing if you could make a video to teach techniques for that
This video is awesome, it's the first time I started to understand that mating pattern ! Quick question though : what if Black king goes to c7 instead of b6 ? Not sure I understand the logic here, to prevent him from escaping on the A file...
Black's king never could go to c7.
@@reubenmanzo2054 Yes he could.
Good question!
Move your king to D6, to box in the black king
Black king never went to b6. Please include a timestamp of where the king went to b6
You made that seem so easy I was wracking my brain trying to figure out how to get the king confined to the right corner....I had to use stockfish to find the most accurate moves and I still couldn't wrap my head around it but now it's starting to make sense.
I love the you explain stuff. You’re a natural at this and thank you very much. You should have 10 mil subs for real.
Thanks Nelson, it helped.
I saw 10/12 tutorials about it but yours was the one, made me successful.
Thank you so much for this video, it helped me so much!
Thank you very much, this was extremely helpful.
i had this only twice in my life in bullet and blitz, i was a kid playing bullet back then, basically i had 5 seconds and he had 0.01 seconds and i just flagged him lol, and he got very rude after he lost saying "i would draw you if you had more time because you dont know how" so i told him to "grow up hahahah i won and you didnt :D", and since then i decided i was going to learn it for real, well YEARS later, today i mastered the W method and the 2nd time in blitz i managed to pull it off :)
Checkmate In One Move 8:43 Bb5#
A lot of strong chess players fail at this checkmate.
If this weren't a difficult enough checkmate, the 50 move rule makes it much harder.
This checkmate is so difficult, especially in time pressure, that in blitz or bullet, it's pretty much a guaranteed a draw.
There's been a handful of games where my opponent had more material than me and they would easily win.
And what I did was traded my remaining material to get the rest of their pawns. And with only a bishop and a knight remaining, my opponents constantly fail to pull off the checkmate.
Either the clock or the 50-move rule will kick in and it's a draw.
It's very rare to end up in this situation where you need to mate with a knight and a bishop.
Don't end up in this situation if you can. It requires a lot of skill to pull this off, not to mention a lot of clock.
But if you do learn this checkmate, and can pull it off consistently within the 50 moves, and within time pressure,
you're better than a lot of strong chess players out there.
I did it a bunch of times (after failing quite a bit) here : lichess.org/practice/checkmates/piece-checkmates-ii/Rg2cMBZ6/9CYWkR3I. You can get good at it, but it never happened to me in a game (yet).
You must practice it periodically from different positions on the board.
I tried and failed to understand this for the last 15 years. I watched your video several times and practiced for a month. I am so good at this checkmate now, I feel like a grandmaster.
Thank you so much for teaching this in a way normal people can understand and actually be successful check mating.
You have my respect and sincere gratitude.
Bishop on white to B5, controlling one of the two legal squares the black king can move to as well as attacking the king and making a discovered attack with the rook doing the same thing with the other square.
Thanx Nelson very helpful!!
The hardest part for me is obtaining the initial position from which checkmate can be achieved from a random position, and that is also the part the video spends less time explaining. Are there any techniques for that or does it come down to raw calculation?
I need an explanation for this too, every knight and bishop mate explanation just goes over this so quickly, like "oh just get into the starting position" but its not at all easy, especially considering you need to keep the total of moves low enough to not go past the 50 move rule...
Same here, the lone defenseless King can just keep going back and forth and back and forth. Was hoping for more of an explanation to get there.
Thank you very much !
it’s like trying to catch a fish with your bare hands
yep! 😂
Great video as usual
Thanks, Gent!
My meager attempt at a solution. Scanning the board I notice that there is a possibility of 'double check'. In check there are generally three choices. Block, take or move. With double check, move is the only option. For block, you can't block the two checks. To take, you can't take the two pieces. Therefore, the only choice for double check is to move. And if there is no safe move, then it is checkmate. Move the white bishop on E2 to B5, giving bishop check and exposing rook check. Black has only two moves for the black king, neither of which gets out of check. My chess terminology needs improvement.
May you and yours stay well and prosper.
Nelson! At 3:29 when u say the only logical move is to go away from the corner cause he will get mated faster. What do u do if he does go to the white corner side
Thanks. This is the first time I understood this!
I learned something extra . Thank you so much.!!
Excellent Nelson! You’re the best!!!!
8:51 bishop B5 double check and checkmate
awesome lesson, thanks
Thanks for this guide. Now I've learned how to checkmate with a knight and bishop (I trained on chess engines), most tedious part is cutting off opponent's king from center of the board and wrong color corner, but it is doable, once king fall into mating net, it is easy.
thanks so much for this video - this technique is much better to remember then the other techniques i saw so far - finally could do it ;D
hey nelson, i am shmuel stern, thank you! i am well experienced player but many times i had difficulties in this kind of endgames. very good lesson!
Very good explanation
Double check! Bb5#
Exactly 👍
@@ChessVibesOfficial brilliant
Nice, thank you! I used to know the W scheme, but I forgot it over the past 50+ years. Hah! My first re-learning attempt was the shrinking triangles scheme, but W is much easier.
Hi. You said that he could either go Kc6 or Kb7 from Kc7 position trying to run away into the empty board. Kc6 is beautifully explained but Kb7 is not and everything I tried after Kb7, Bc4 he always escapes. Any tips? Thanks
You made the best video out of every other youtuber to teach this. Thank you so much for the video. God bless!
Clear explaination than some videos. Thanks for uploading this.
thanks a lot, lichess practice way so hard this quite easy to check the king
Looks a little confusing but with practice I think I can get it thx great video
Best Trainer in TH-cam < Only Video i understand it on youtube ^_^
Last one... The puzzle mate in 1... Bishop from e2 should go to b5... Causing a discovered check a checkmate basically😂... But thank you so much for the lesson of checkmating with bishop and knight... Very educational and easy to remember 👍
thank you ❤
Thanks, this really helped!
Id have never worked this out without this tutorial 🙌🙌
Bishop B5
Nelson, can you make a video about how to get to the key position?
Double attack check mate!
Get me some more difficult puzzles, pls :-)
Great explanation, btw.
Great video, but what if b7 at 5:25?
Great. I need to go practice that a ton now.
Is it possible to checkmate with king and 3 knights?
Is there a video to help get that key position?
Thank You
This seems much more elaborate than the 2 bishop mate ngl. Still really good video! Just gotta practice now...
thank you very much
Best One 👌 Thanks a lot Bro. 🙏🙏🙏🙏 from India.
I can believe i managed to learn this, i only had to whatch once. Now i only need pratice. Its honestly a lot easier that it looks, i thought only gms and title player could do it
Nice video! Even if you missed N to c5, N to d8 is mate in 5.
this guys a very good coach
THANK YOU! I got into the initial position but I couldn't figure out how to make it go to a8 without the king escaping towards a1. Great explanation 👍👍
pretty cool thank you. btw, i think on the second option, i think you moved the oponent king twice. not that it matters much since it was kind of giving the king a headstart for escape but following precision one extra move in some other context would make a difference.
never mind, i just noticed white did move in between. my bad.
You forgot to show what to do @ the 5:24 mark if the King moves to B7.
Very well explained and presented. What in reality happens though... I would not be able to enforce the initial position.
Any guidance if the enemy is successful in getting into the wrong corner? How do you get them out?
Great Video! Bb5#
I cann now finally checkmate with a bishop and a knight! thanks!
5:53 king can move to b7?
08:47 Bb5#
4:06 there is mate in 2 with white going Nd6, Ka8, then Bd5#
You are the greatest.
The answer to the puzzle: B B5 or F B5#. The black king will be checked by rook and bishop simultaneously,it must be moved,it is impossible, as a result it us mate.
8:54 Bb5#
what if king goes b7 at 5:25?? just had that happen and i lost to time
What if they choose to move Kb7 as opposed Kc6?
thank you so much, very helpful, God bless!
You're welcome!
For the puzzle can’t you move queen to g6 then f7? Basically going around the pawn
Just won a game following these instructions - would never have been able to figure it out myself - hardest part was getting him to the side
Puzzle solution : Bb5 dupple check which will be a checkmate scince it is dupple check king needs to move but in this case thier is no sqaures for king is a Checkmate and game over
Can you make how to do a check mate with king and knight i really wanna know it
Theoretically it is possible to checkmate the entire last row and not just in the corner!
thats a W maneuver
So move the bishop but the queen and bishop can block right
how do you actually force the king to the back rank tho lol
But how do I get to the initial position?
thanks
8:49 Bishop B5
As long as the opponents king isn't on back row when trying to get it there you can't cause a stale mate right?
Bb5+
When I tried to mate my opponent with my Bishop pair, with no other pieces on the board, the algorithm just declared a draw because of insufficient material.
My teacher said that I should practice KBN mate but I can't remember. So the teacher recommended me this yt vid. Works tho. Finally I can now mate my opponent
In the second option, what if he play Kb7 instead of Kd8
In the starting position, it's a bit trickier if it's *black's* move and he starts off with 1...Ke8. Now what? It can be done, but it's not very intuitive nor in keeping with the W-method. Basically, white has to find a method to achieve this same position but make it *white's* move. It's a bit awkward. White needs to temporarily push the king back toward the "safe" corner. Knowing when to "waste" a move is important with this method.
1...Ke8 2.Be6 Kf8 3.Bd7 Kg8 4.Bf5 Kf8
Voila! It's the same starting position with white's turn. White can now start the mating net with 5.Bh7. White has to know this little trick, however.
Even if the player with the lone king knows that he cannot be checkmated in the corner *not* commanded by the bishop, he should not make a beeline for that corner. The mating net begins once the king is forced to the edge of the board. Don't help your opponent by going to the edge of the board. The lone king should fight to stay in the *middle* of the board as much as a possible. Resist being forced to the edge/corner. But, eventually, the lone king will have to give ground. Only *then* should the king head for the opposite corner.
Most tutorials teach the player how the "net" works and assumes that forcing the king to the edge of the board can be done easily. Actually, it's not that easy if you don't know what you're doing. If the player with the bishop & knight do not expeditiously get the opposing king to the edge of the board, he will likely exceed 50 moves even if he has a perfect understanding of what to do once the opposing king is pinned to the edge of the board. On average, it takes about 30 total moves to force checkmate. More than half of those moves is just forcing the king to the edge of the board. Fumble around with that and knowing the mating pattern won't do you any good. From the starting position in this video, it took 18 perfect moves to force checkmate. It can take far more moves than that to force a king to the edge of the board. So, you can see that any fumbling around will cause you to exceed 50 moves.
The most difficult part is forcing the King into a corner, if the black king really tries to avoid that instead of making some random moves like you did in your example, it's almost impossible to make this work
wao... very clear and not complex! just beaten stockfish with this two pieces
What if the king goes to b7 instead of c6?
appreciate it
The Deletang " reducing triangle " technique imho. may be learnt by everyone.