The Puzzle That Hurt My Brain

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  • @ravi12346
    @ravi12346 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +350

    11:35 Be2 works, but Bb7 seems a bit more straightforward.

    • @shanks4u
      @shanks4u 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

      Thank you, i was losing my mind wondering why this wasn't the solution and was wondering if i was missing something

    • @RS-handle
      @RS-handle 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      had same thought

    • @frfancha
      @frfancha 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Yes exactly and that pretty much removes the "mind boggling" effect so no sure this is the best video of this channel - which stays my preferred chess channel though . Unless we all miss something??

    • @kirillzakharov7336
      @kirillzakharov7336 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Be2 also works right away instead of Bf3. Leads to the same position.

    • @FatherManus
      @FatherManus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I thought this as well.

  • @witheringhs7766
    @witheringhs7766 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    12:14 isn't bishop to b7 just straight up better and forces the same outcome except without losing a piece?

  • @martinmelhus7324
    @martinmelhus7324 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    At 11:30 in the video, Nelson goes on to say that B-e2 is the winning move, and I can see why that wins. But what about B-b7? I don't see a line for black that wins or draws from that move.

    • @mangopie7602
      @mangopie7602 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Tried it and it works, there's nothing fishy about Bb7 and it's more straightforward

    • @davidanoble
      @davidanoble 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I think Nelson just got tired of trying understand why 5000 different variations didn't work and just gave up.

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bb7 is best. It's probably only hard to see if your brain has been broken by looking at all the other variations. From the comfort of our homes, it looks "obvious" and I believe it's what the engines pick, because it literally leads to a faster checkmate.

    • @dmaster20ify
      @dmaster20ify 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidanoble Seems as if Mr. Nelson, with all due respects may need to sharpen up on his endgames.

    • @92PedroBorges
      @92PedroBorges 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1:40 what prevents black to play bishop e2 check?
      That would force the white king to move and sacrifice the bishop.
      Then it’s easy for black to capture the pawn.
      I haven’t thought many steps beyond it, but it seems to me that the only way to win would be to start preventing that.

  • @andydaniel3070
    @andydaniel3070 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    I think any human plays Bb7 at 11:35, not Be2. It still guarantees the pawn promotes, but doesn't sacrifice the bishop.

    • @Aarush.A.S
      @Aarush.A.S 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ya

    • @LeoKinhg
      @LeoKinhg 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Be2 was the first thing that came to my mind, since the bishop doesn't have anywhere else to go. But be7 looks better fr

  • @CaitiffFTW
    @CaitiffFTW 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    12:05 Why not Bishop to B7?

  • @malharmanagoli
    @malharmanagoli 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    This is a puzzle where knowing theoretical endgames is helpful. The point is that (after pushing the pawn to c7)
    1. White can only win by getting the king to b8 where it controls two squares on the short c8-a6 diagonal, and
    2. As soon as the black king attacks the pawn, white king has to stay defending it and can no longer move.
    With this in mind, the moves make a lot more sense.
    2 c7 must be played to prevent Kc4.
    3 Ke3 instead of Ke4 to not walk into a check, making sure Kc4 is prevented due to the skewer threat
    4 Be2 gaining a tempo on the black bishop into 5Kd4 is the only way to prevent the black King from reaching b6.
    After this point the video explains the logic pretty well.
    I had learned the bishop and pawn vs bishop endgame from an old video by chessexplained, though I must admit I did not remember what I learned and needed a refresher.
    Thanks for all the cool puzzles you keep posting.

    • @LexxKD
      @LexxKD 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks. You are right. Let me add a little clarification to your comment.
      The riddle is really about the endgame of same-square bishops and pawn. In the classic version, the white pawn stands on b7, and the black bishop walks along the trajectory a7-b8-h2-g1. To win, White needs to drive him away. To do this, the white bishop occupies square b8, and the king defends it. The black bishop is forced to move to the a7-g1 diagonal. Next, the white bishop moves to h2, black, in order to contain the pawn, is forced to occupy square a7. White moves the bishop to g1 after which Black resigns, since square b8 is protected by the king and there is no longer any way to prevent the pawn from becoming a queen.
      In the riddle, the situation is the same, only the black bishop dances around a6-c8-h3-f1, which complicates the situation. In order to drive him away from the white pawn, we need to build the same trap as in the endgame and this is the only chance for white to win. To do this, the white king needs to take control of the b7 and c8 squares and move the white bishop along the c8-h3-f1 squares. And how to do this is perfectly described in the comment by malharmanagoli and shown in the video.

  • @AlpControl
    @AlpControl 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    @11:30 Bb7 is a better move because it doesn't loose the bishop.
    Fascinating anyway, thank you.

  • @sidchicken2308
    @sidchicken2308 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    At 12:20, why not Bb7? Seems like they can’t take it, and can’t go anywhere else to stop the pawn.

    • @GroudonsGame
      @GroudonsGame 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why you asking him? Seems like he knows nothing

  • @farouqbaiti4315
    @farouqbaiti4315 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    11:44 If Be2 works,then Bb7 also works.
    I thought that puzzle was simple,but it was complicated and cool and fun.

    • @AlexRodriguez-hq6xu
      @AlexRodriguez-hq6xu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I was going to say lol. I thought that Bb7 would work as well but for some reason he only mentioned bishop e2 in the video.

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think Bb7 is not just "more obvious" to someone with eyes in their head, it's actually the tablebase engine move because it leads to the quickest promotion and checkmate.

  • @ThomasHDBass
    @ThomasHDBass 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    One important factor you did not mention was that white wants to force the black bishop onto the short diagonal. Actually, white needs to do this two times. The reason behind this is that the diagonal a6-c8 has only 3 squares. White can cover 1 with the bishop, and 2 with the king. If the diagonal had only 1 more square, we could not force the bishop out.
    First, the early c7 forces Ba6, which places the bishop on the less flexible diagonal compared to c8-h3.
    When the white king lands on c6, the black bishop can be forced to let the king in on the side the black king is, so the black king can't intervene. And once the King is on b8, covering two of the three squares of the a6-c8 diagonal, we can push the bishop around, until it is back on the short diagonal, where it only has one square, which our bishop can easily take away.

  • @lenonkitchens7727
    @lenonkitchens7727 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I would have played Bb7 instead of Be2.

  • @TomBarrister
    @TomBarrister 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    White's two goals are to force Black's Bishop onto the short (a6 to c8) diagonal, and keep Black from getting the King to b6, c6, or d6 where it can capture the pawn.. If Black can get the Bishop to b5 before the pawn is pushed, the game is a draw. Black has enough maneuvering room to keep White from driving the Bishop away. Also, if black can get the king to a7, the a6 and b7 squares on the short diagonal will be under Black's control.
    Note that the c6 square is critical to White's plan to get his King to b8.
    1.c6
    Necessary to negate Bb5.
    1... Kb3 (or others).
    The silly Kc3 cuts off the Bishops access to a6 and makes White's task easier.
    2.c7
    This is necessary, to get the king out of a possible skewer and to force Black's Bishop onto the short diagonal. A king move doesn't work. 2 Ke3 Kc4, and now White has no useful place to put his King and prevent Black from approaching and capturing the pawn. 3.Be2+ Kc5 and 3.Ke4 Bg2+ both draw. 3.c7 is too late Bh3 4.Ke4, Kc5, and the pawn is history. Or 2.Kf4 with the idea of cutting off the Bishop with Bg4 fails to
    Kd4, 3.c7 Ba6 and Black can now march to c6 and capture the pawn.
    2 ...Ba6
    Forced.
    3.Ke3
    Other king moves don't work. 3.Ke4 Bb7+ (to keep the King from advancing to c6) 4.Ke5 Kc4 5.Kd6 Kb5 6.Kc7 (otherwise White can't drive away the Bishop) Ba6 7.Bg4 Bb7 8.Bc8 Be4 (or other squares), and Black owns the a6 and b7 squares, and White can't make progress.
    With Ke3, White assumes the opposition, not allowing Black to go to c4 (which loses the Bishop).
    3... Bb7
    Maintaining the opposition.
    4.Be2
    (4.Bf3 also works in a different way.)
    The idea is to limit Black's Bishop to two squares on the short diagonal and also hinder Black from reaching a6.. However Bg4 doesn't work. After Kc4, White can no longer prevent Black's King from reaching b6. With 4.Be2, White prevents Black's King from going to c4.
    4...Bc8
    Maintaining the opposition. 4...Kb4 5.Kd4 Ka5 6.Kc5 keeps Black out of b7 and ultimately a7, as in the main line.
    5.Ke4 Bb7+
    (5...Kb4 6.Kd4 leads to the previous.)
    6.Kd6
    (6.Kd4 leads to the main line, with a waste of moves)
    6 ... Ka5
    Moving the Bishop allows White to go to c6 and eventually reach b8 a move faster than in the main line.
    7.Kc5
    Reestablishing the opposition. This position occurs in several other lines.
    7... Bc8
    (7...Kc4 8.Kc6, followed by a7 and b8. Black's move stalls for time.)
    8.Kc6
    Finally White has the position on c6, and Black's Bishop has no good moves on the short diagonal.
    8...Bf5
    Other moves by King or Bishop will lead to the same position.
    9.Kb7 Be6 (or others) 10.Kb8 Kb6
    Now White repositions the Bishop to drive away the enemy.
    11.Bc3 Bf5 12.Bb7 Bg4 13.Bc8 Be2 14.Bf5 Ba6
    Black makes one last attempt to cover c8.
    15.Bd3 (other moves also work.) Bb7
    Of course, taking the Bishop allows the pawn to promote.
    16.Be2
    (The snarky 16.Bb5 also works)
    And Black is in Zugzwang. Moving the Bishop allows the pawn to promote, and any King move will lose the Bishop (i.e. 16... Kc6 Bf3+)

  • @f3m7ar
    @f3m7ar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    The logic is we only want the opposition when our bishop helps us blocking the straight up path for the black king. This way the black king has to either stay put or cede some territory: in the end it got boxed out entirely and black could only move its bishop around, while our old men slowly crawled around.

  • @marssang
    @marssang 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I didnt see anyone else explain the logic you missed so I try
    White has to get the king to b8 since the a6-c8 diagonal is short enough for the king to guard so that the bishop trade can be forced.
    The whole point of many of the maneuvers is stopping black king from getting there first and blocking white king from entering.
    You cannot force bishop trade from Kd8, as whenever you go Bc8 black just moves away from either of the 2 diagonals and waits for you to choose where you mive to unblock your pawn, and then guards the promotion square from the other way.

  • @percyjackson5017
    @percyjackson5017 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    11:44 why isnt bishop to b7 an option?

  • @marcinzielenski3202
    @marcinzielenski3202 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    At 2:50:
    After white king to e4 the bishop can deliver a check, and than simply take the pawn.

    • @lenonkitchens7727
      @lenonkitchens7727 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nope, Bg2+ is blocked by Bf3 resulting in a bishop trade, or black's bishop running.

  • @goodspellr1057
    @goodspellr1057 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    There seems to be a lot going on. You push the pawn to keep it as far away from the Black King as possible. Then you avoid putting the White King on light squares in order to avoid checks and because you want your own Bishop to move freely so that it can cause a deflection.
    It's amazing that someone was able to work all of this out before the Tablebase.

  • @keymasta3260
    @keymasta3260 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I mostly like puzzles Mate in 2 or Mate in 3 but this puzzle Mate in 33 is also nice

  • @jaseyn
    @jaseyn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just amazing. Please, do this type of video more often. This hard position puzzles brings a lot to a table. Especially end-games. Very educational. Amd you are great in explanations. Wish you all the best!

  • @arpuslaet29
    @arpuslaet29 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video!! We need more of these end game concepts to take advantage of these common positions. Please do more of these videos.

  • @shha22
    @shha22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I think the idea behind the king moves, was that once you play Be2 at ~7:00 min mark, you are preventing black king from moving up the board. Yes he can go to A5, but after Kc5, bishop prevents black king from reaching 6th rank, or going around ( because of opposition you kept).

  • @cerebralcomics
    @cerebralcomics 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    12:00 why not bishop to b7?
    Edit:
    Reading the comments, I see I’m not the only one asking this, hehe.

    • @dmaster20ify
      @dmaster20ify 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bishop to e2 stops Nelson from stalemating the King. No. Bishop to e2 is the only move to make the puzzle look like it has a pretty finish. Nobody seems to appreciate a steady winning income.

    • @cerebralcomics
      @cerebralcomics 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dmaster20ifyI’m probably overlooking something, please elaborate.
      The way I see it, if bishop b7 then black either takes it, moves away with the bishop or moves the king any direction.
      If black bishop takes white bishop, white king takes black bishop and whatever happens next, pawn still promotes.
      If black bishop moves away from a6, pawn promotes.
      If black king moves in any direction, white bishop takes the black one, then black has to move king again and next white still promotes.
      I don’t see a stalemate, but again, might be overlooking something.

    • @dmaster20ify
      @dmaster20ify 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cerebralcomicsThere is no stalemate. That was supposed to be humour. I scrolled down the TH-cam page to write this comment and now Ben finegold is looking at me. MITTENS VS GM BEN FINEGOLD.

    • @cerebralcomics
      @cerebralcomics 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dmaster20ify in that case:
      r/woosh
      😅

  • @danielevans8728
    @danielevans8728 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The key seems to be to not let black king gets to b6

  • @JohnDoe-ti2np
    @JohnDoe-ti2np 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The key point is that Black's bishop can control the square in front of the White pawn from two different directions, so for White to win, White has to not only drive the Black bishop away from one diagonal, but also block with his own bishop when Black tries to switch his bishop to the other diagonal. To do this, White needs to position his forces carefully. With the White pawn on c7, he needs his king on d8 and his bishop ready to occupy d7 when Black moves his bishop to the c8-h3 diagonal. But this maneuver works only if Black's king is *not* posted on d6, where it would prevent White's bishop from moving to d7 to intercept the Black bishop. Many of the variations can be understood if you realize that White is trying to prevent Black's king from getting to d6. If White's king is on d8 and Black's king is on d6, then White cannot make progress, because whenever White tries to challenge Black's bishop, Black just switches his bishop to controlling c8 from the other side.

  • @DJF1947
    @DJF1947 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It would be interesting to know whether Crum had any kind of life.

  • @alex_zetsu
    @alex_zetsu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This and a few other of the other presented puzzles show how being ahead 2 pawns by doubled pawns is not "basically 1 pawn ahead." The addition of a white pawn on c3 would make the endgame trivial.

  • @malkav0488
    @malkav0488 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    White is achieving 2 things: not being boxed out a partial diagonal with king and bishop that black king can't use, delaying it enough to create the opportunity to get to later positions. Pretty fascinating.

  • @warriorofgod2700
    @warriorofgod2700 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Bishop to b7 works just as well at the end doesn't it?

  • @CrazyLinguiniLegs
    @CrazyLinguiniLegs 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:16 “The only winning move is Ke3” but I beat the engine with Ke4. I was able to get (and keep) my queen on move 39. Here’s how it went:
    1. c6 Kc3 2. c7 Ba6 3. Ke4 Kb4 4. Be2 Bb7+ 5. Kd4 Bc8 6. Kd5 Bh3 7. Kc6 Ka5 8. Kb7 Be6 and I figured I pretty much had it after that (which proved to be correct). So, I got my queen on move 39, but once I realized what I had to do, I was able to play it again and get my queen on move 17.

  • @peterbauer7271
    @peterbauer7271 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What an instructive puzzle. Fine end game study it’s pretty deep.

  • @ronbelanger8812
    @ronbelanger8812 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Well done, Nelson. Aspirin in the medicine cabinet.

  • @matthewbrown7166
    @matthewbrown7166 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    All I can see/say is that you need to keep "forcing the issue" as white. The idea seems to be reducing (if that's the right word) black's options. White eventually gets the Queen. Far easier said than done. Marvellous puzzle. Keep em coming!!!

  • @TrueNorthFame
    @TrueNorthFame 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 6:32 I think be2 is played to stop the king from moving up as it not only blocks the b5 square but attacks the bishop forcing a reaction out of black and preventing kc5 or ka5

  • @WalacaVencano
    @WalacaVencano 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    12:26 I saw Bb7, giving better result because on the next move, either it will be a queen vs king or queen and bishop vs bishop, while Be2 makes the endgame as queen vs bishop. Or so I think. Can you tell me if it's a bad move and why, please? Thanks by advance.

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bb7 is the most natural move. It's also the best, as it leads to a faster checkmate. Sometimes, one's brain gets broken by looking at all the other variations, while those of us casually watching at home can see the "obvious" solution.

  • @vtgrphy3907
    @vtgrphy3907 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I saw the puzzle, my immediate thought is to use my King to help to trade Bishops.

  • @FatherManus
    @FatherManus 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You should try to collab with some GMs and have them explain positions like this.

  • @NJDJ1986
    @NJDJ1986 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting puzzle! At the end, the black's bishop was forced to moved out from a6 because it was controlling b7, & c8 square which white's pawn couldn't pass through!

  • @jamesgowing3856
    @jamesgowing3856 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why didn't the black bishop go to e2 next to the black king on d2. That way the white bishop on h5 could be taken as the white king would need to be moved. The game then ends in a draw.

    • @jespernorgaard3795
      @jespernorgaard3795 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1.c6 Be2+ 2.Kg3! Bxh5 3.c7 and the c-pawn can't be stopped, for instance 3...Bg4 4.Kxg4. Black must return 2...Ba6 3.Kf2 Kc3 4.Be2! Bc8 5.Ke3 Kb4 6.Kd4 Ka5 7.Kc5 Bf5 8.c7 Bd7 9.Bc4 Bf5 10.Kc6 Be4+ 11.Bd5 Bf5 12.Kb7 Bg4 13.Kb8 Kb6 14.Bb7 Bf5 15.Bc8 Be4 16.Bh3 Bb7 17.Bf1 and Black is in zugzwang 17...Kc6 18.Bg2+ and White wins.

    • @user-wy7oi3mh5q
      @user-wy7oi3mh5q 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly the same thought. However taking white bishop would be blunder. The pawn just go straight to the end

  • @LuizFelipe-fk6it
    @LuizFelipe-fk6it 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The whole purpose of moves like Ke3(Protecting e2) and Be2 was to get control of the diagonal, so when the King gets boxed in he cant go up

  • @TTV_LeBronJime21
    @TTV_LeBronJime21 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    2:57 can’t black do Bg2 skewering with an immediate draw?

  • @simens8646
    @simens8646 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the somewhat odd king and bishop moves at the beginning of the puzzle are all about the fact that the white king needs to be able to infiltrate to b8 rather than d8. In the lines that are a draw (e.g. at 6:04) the black king has prevented the white king from getting to b8. Having the white king on b8 eliminates any waiting moves that the black bishop would otherwise have had on the a6-c8 diagonal.

  • @jackwells8107
    @jackwells8107 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I would have thought white bishop to b7, so they either take and lose their bishop, or the white space is free.
    With the bishop to e2, I think you have to do it to keep the black king from moving to b5 and having to go to the a row.

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In this case, I believe the "obvious" and most human move (Bb7) is actually the best, as chosen by tablebase engines. I think Nelson's brain got scrambled by looking at all the other variations, so he didn't see it.

  • @LPChip
    @LPChip 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    At the very end, I finally understand all the manouvering. It is indeed a stalemate because black will just keep moving the bishop away, and it is that why you have to attack it in a very specific way. At many times I was like, just put the king on D8 first, then our bishop on C8, and the next move we can move it out of the way to promote to a queen and if they take our bishop, then we just take back. But black is not going to do that. They'll keep moving the bishop in and out and using tempo to ensure that its not being captured to force a stalemate.

  • @gerrittoet5318
    @gerrittoet5318 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nelson, this is a variation on an old Centorini puzzle ( 1856 ) with the white king on c8, the bishop on d8 and a pawn on b7 , the black king on c6 nd the black bishop on h2

  • @narganoise8211
    @narganoise8211 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:24 If you move your king to e4 the bishop can go to g2 with check and then get the pawn

    • @TheMoldrupable
      @TheMoldrupable 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Can't you just block the check with Bf3?

    • @narganoise8211
      @narganoise8211 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheMoldrupable Yes you are right, my bad

  • @DrLawIrk
    @DrLawIrk 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This study is a masterpiece. So deep.

  • @danmor5451
    @danmor5451 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:31, 5:32 the reason these exact moves are winning ones is cause e3 field is the only one where king guards e2 and f3 for bishop to keep both of diagonals 'safely attacked'. The idea is not the opposition of kings, i guess. Moreover, this is the reason why we didnt move king far from e3 earlier, we pushed the pawn instead to force black bishop into top left corner with just 3 reasonable options left. Great puzzle!

  • @Aragorn.Strider
    @Aragorn.Strider 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I thought I recognised the position and yes, this exact position is on my book "Laeufer und Springer endspiele" by Juri Awerbach (German translation) on page 99 (diagram 180). The book is dedicated only about endgames with bishop and or knight and some pawns.
    Not 1... Ba6 because of 2.Ke4! Kc3 3.Kd5 Kb4 4. Bg4! Ka5 5. Kc5! Bb5 6.c7 Ba6 7.Kc6
    At 2:47 2.Ke4?? is an immediate draw after 2...Bg2+ ... Bxc6

  • @oleitas_
    @oleitas_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This puzzle is divided into three key phases:
    1) How fast should white push the pawn? Answer is, as you explained, white has to get the pawn to c7 as fast as possible (immediately) to limit the bishops blocking possibilities. If let's say the bishop can block the pawn at c6 (1. Any other move other than c6) the bishop has tons of possibilities to stay on the key diagonals. By pushing the pawn as fast as possible (1. c6, 2. c7) white also ties the bishop to stop the pawn immediately, leaving white's bishop and king to box out black's king. Also crucial is that if white pushes to c6 but doesn't follow up with 2. c7, black's king has time to move which gives enough time for the king to cooperate with the bishop, which would make it 2 vs 2 for that square and a draw.
    2) King moves: As explained perfectly by one of the comments already written, it's basically a zugzwang - the key is that white wants to have their bishop dominating the a6-g1 diagonal to stop black's king from ever reaching a7. that's why opposition is key! White opposes the king from ever stepping in the feasible dark squares (not opposing the king would give black vertical opposition, which black would use to their favor, dictating white king's movement into allowing it into key dark squares as the bishops have a waste off) and then finally, as white pins black's king, once it reaches b4, be2 proves crucial as it blocks both Kb5 and Ka6, which allows the white king to sneak into b8 and control the a7 square, which means that it is white's king that dominates the a6-c8 short diagonal, which white will force the bishop into in the next phase.
    3) Forcing black's bishop into the short diagonal - this part is less key, there's loads of ways to do it and the key is again to keep the zugzwang idea in the back of the mind - sometimes moving to a certain square doesn't matter much, it's all about them diagonals :)

    • @oleitas_
      @oleitas_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh and white has to play be2 at that specific moment (the first be2 lol) because it is the only moment where the bishop would have the king's support and stop black's king at the same time. this is such a beautiful puzzle due to these little details. endgame art.

  • @skylardeslypere9909
    @skylardeslypere9909 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    11:43 can we also go Bb2? It also cuts off the bishop from that diagonal (which was not possible before since the king would defend black's bishop if they took on b2). If black moves away, queen. If they don't, trade the bishops and get a queen later.

    • @sidchicken2308
      @sidchicken2308 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think you mean Bb7, but yes.

    • @skylardeslypere9909
      @skylardeslypere9909 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sidchicken2308 Oops, you're right. I meant Bb7

  • @jonathanwork7070
    @jonathanwork7070 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    at 3:15 Black could play Bh3 and white does not have a good way to stop the bishop from controlling c8. The puzzle involves finding a way to get the king to b8. The king on d8 will not be able to stop the bishop from controlling c8. I can explain about bishop endgames with one side having a pawn on the 7th rank. With a bishop pawn, the king has to be in a certain position to win. A knight pawn is winning if the king is defending the pawn. If it helps, I can make a video explaining this.

  • @patrickbullock1245
    @patrickbullock1245 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Greetings. You haven't explained why at 11:42 after Black kc5 White bb7 isn't winning given if Black b captures White k recapture followed by pawn promotion to Queen regardless of where Black k moves.

  • @virt1one
    @virt1one 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is a good illustration of why there will never be a mathematical way to calculate chess moves. Future positions are essentially chaotic with all manner of "butterfly effects", that can only be consistently solved by exhaustive search. Only the most basic combinations (like king vs king and rook) can be proven in advance.

  • @chriswatson7965
    @chriswatson7965 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 3:23 moving the white Ke4 allows the black bishop to cover the c8 square via h3. Moving the pawn first forces black to cover the c8 by moving the black bishop to a6. I will also add that white's aim is not to get the king to the pawn but to get to black's bishop. So the king and the bishop need to manoeuvred around to push the black king to the left and stop it from protecting the bishop.

    • @Karadjanov
      @Karadjanov 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is also a much more immediate explanation why e4 does not work: If Ke4 then Bg2+ and Black simply sacrifices the Bishop for the pawn.

  • @drincmusic2769
    @drincmusic2769 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that the main thing for why you have to do the move order in the beginning is because you need to be on the left side of the pawn in order to play against the bishop when it's on the left side of the pawn.

  • @Sunnernite
    @Sunnernite 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:30 if you move Ke4, black can also go Bg2, skewering the king, take the pawn and it's a draw

    • @moipallo9613
      @moipallo9613 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ke4 is also winning according to stockfish

    • @Idiot_Indians
      @Idiot_Indians 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No, it's not skewer because u can block it with Bf3

  • @drincmusic2769
    @drincmusic2769 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:54 bishop f1 stops king to b5 which if black had their king on b5, it would allow the black king to gain a drawn opposition.

  • @AbouTaim-Lille
    @AbouTaim-Lille 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've seen a lot of these on Chess-endgame-trainer. Especially on the C file. Each time untill the promotion there is only one move otherwise stockfish can find a draw. And the engine says it takes about 45-46 moves.

  • @QwDragon
    @QwDragon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool puzzle!

  • @Evens4102
    @Evens4102 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:19 The whole beginning of the puzzle is to prevent black king from getting C4 because if you do that, then you can box out the king that is the whole point behind the 2 pawn moves and ke3

  • @chess_player007
    @chess_player007 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:55
    Be2 - Bb7
    Bb5 - Kb5
    Kb7 and win for white.(similar idea like in 14:00)

  • @fantomghost6213
    @fantomghost6213 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great puzzle

  • @roblodocus2539
    @roblodocus2539 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Blimey……well done John Crum. And he created this without an engine.

  • @lurenzhiyuhuaps3031
    @lurenzhiyuhuaps3031 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An interesting thing about bishops and knight. Normaly it is a draw (king and bishop vs king) and king and bishop vs king and bishop is a draw too by agreement but it is possible to checkmate if your opponent puts his king in corner and bishop beside the king (blocking his only escape square)!

  • @driveral1305
    @driveral1305 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:56 you have to push the pawn. Ke4 doesn't work with the pawn on c6 due to the check skewer. Any other king move is a drawn endgame because the black king and bishop can block out the white king.

    • @shha22
      @shha22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there is no skewer really, since you can block the check with your own bishop

  • @olivercoates7076
    @olivercoates7076 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1st move: c6, because you have to clear that square before the bishop can cover it.
    ...Kc3
    2nd move: c7. Ke4 lets the black king stay on the same file and approach. ...Bh3 will cover the capture square and you can no longer block with Bg4 because the white is out of reach to defend the it. Therefore, playing c7 demands the black bishop decide h3 or a6 NOW, preventing Bh3 in the future.
    ... Ba6
    3rd move: Ke3. Now and ONLY now that the black bishop is on the left side of the black king, does he has to worry about the skewer on ...Kc4 4. Be2!, which would leave him without a way to stop the promotion. ...Kd4 needs to be stopped or the black king will interpose between your king and the pawn and force the draw. So to stop that we need opposition. We don't, however, really need to 'race' to the pawn, we just need to block Kd4 with opposition. Ke4 would open up Kc4 (letting the black king stay on your pawn's file), after 3. Ke4 Bb7+! 4. Ke5 (the king notably can't take the opposition from the pawn's file because its being attacked from that diagonal), ...Kc4. Kc4 becomes an option again and black again can stay on the file with your pawn because Be2 is no longer a skewer once the black bishop is on b7. Letting him move there with tempo is bad.
    Ke3 is the only way to oppose ...Kd4 without inviting Bb7+
    ... Kb4
    4th move: Be2. Now, with the black king only 3 moves away from taking your pawn, he no longer cares about the skewer. He doesn't care about losing his bishop via 4. Kd4 Kb5 5.Be2+ Kb6 6. Bxb6 Kxc7. As shown 5. Kd5 or others are no better because the black king will successfully control his bishop's corner. Instead, the white king and bishop need to work together again to timely cover the squares the black king wants. 4. Be2 prevents ...Kb5 entirely. If ...Kc5 5. Bxa6 and the king is too slow to stop promotion. If ... Bxe2 5. Kxe2 and the king is too slow to stop the promotion. So the black bishop has to move again.
    This was a repeat of the last theme and principle of the puzzle: For black, keeping the opposition/staying on the file with your pawn is only valuable if he is not at risk of losing his bishop with no way of catching your pawn. Previously that mean leaving the file to avoid stepping into the Kc4 skewer. Now it means not returning to the file with Kc5 because of the attack on the bishop.
    ...Bb7 or Bc8
    5th move: In either scenario, the key thing is the same as it always was: keeping the black king cut out of the action. Now, and only now, that both the b5 square is no longer passable for the black king, we need to cover c5 by taking opposition. We were only able to ignore this last move because the initiative brought by attacking his bishop.
    Black's king can't go forward because your bishop controls the white diagonal. You hold opposition so he can't 'cut across' the bishop's attack pattern. He can only climb towards the edge of the board. His bishop is tied to the defense of the promotion square on one diagonal, but can be attack along the other. After some shuffling, black must move his king to the edge of the board or otherwise invite white's king into controlling the b7 square, after which white can bring the bishop in there in such a way that black can't circle around to cover promotion fast enough.

  • @tonyreno3168
    @tonyreno3168 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I think I saw back with the early bishop en-prise offer is that not doing that allows the black king to get to the pawn by way of B5, B6. Other than that, like ravi12346 said, once the white king is in to b8 there's more than 1 way to win.

  • @meister-t
    @meister-t 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why sacrifice your bishop if you can trade it? 11:50 in this position, B-b7 would work better

  • @triplayzatd1347
    @triplayzatd1347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:49 don't bissop to e2 work because it skewer the king and the bishop

  • @jimhardy8686
    @jimhardy8686 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @4:15 Ke3 because it protects your Bishop when you go Be2. If Ke4 then you can't get your Bishop to e2, so it doesn't get to that diagonal in time.
    @1:07 If Ke4 then I *think* black goes Bh3 and gets your Bishop out of the game. Not sure about that though.

  • @LJLMETAL
    @LJLMETAL 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @12:14; can't white just play Bb7

  • @RoderickEtheria
    @RoderickEtheria 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:35, the reason the king moves left orthogonally there is for the bishop to move to attack black's bishop.

  • @christianfrost8660
    @christianfrost8660 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So White's plan was to sacrifice the White Bishop in such a way that it causes the Black Bishop to lose control of the C8 square?

  • @shivaargula4735
    @shivaargula4735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    bishop b7 at the end would work all the same as bishop e2 right?

  • @DonaldRoy-nr9xe
    @DonaldRoy-nr9xe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:35 prevents the "option" to put white king in check, maybe?😮 3-4 steps ahead which changes momentum/tempo of White's pieces and ultimately draws/prevents the window to win?

  • @TheEthikos
    @TheEthikos 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why at 11:40 could you not just block the black bishop by moving your bishop to B7?

    • @AutPen38
      @AutPen38 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can and you should, because it's obviously the best move. I think Nelson's brain got broken by trying to understand the earlier variations, so he overlooked the simplest and best solution.

  • @DiamondWolfX
    @DiamondWolfX 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should run this through Stockfish, I'm not convinced by a lot of the draws either.

  • @Bhadrudu
    @Bhadrudu 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When blacks bishop is on a6 you played Be2, you can also play Bb7 instead, win is much quicker this way.

  • @SmilingIbis
    @SmilingIbis 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would call that an "endgame study" instead of a puzzle.

  • @unoriginalmoniker2625
    @unoriginalmoniker2625 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:57 I see... Bishop check, take the pawn when the king moves.

  • @jimmeade2976
    @jimmeade2976 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why Bf3 instead of Be2, which is the next move? Why the one move delay?

  • @No_Name78328
    @No_Name78328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:17 push the pawn to promote and check the king

  • @TheOGDisco
    @TheOGDisco 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:01 That's a win for White if played correctly. Keeping opposition wins the game

  • @matthughes1341
    @matthughes1341 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:54 the reason it doesn't work to do any other move is that it will allow for black Bxh3 without king cover for block

  • @shivaargula4735
    @shivaargula4735 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ke3 defends e2, you're threatening to put the bishop there and force the bishop to move

  • @zombiedino184
    @zombiedino184 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m no master but it seems like Be2 at 6:18 serves the purpose of cutting off the king from a6 in later parts of the puzzle like at 7:55

  • @GhostAids
    @GhostAids 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    mind blowing!!!!

  • @cristoferwolz-romberger3835
    @cristoferwolz-romberger3835 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 2:55; 2:Ke4 is followed by ... BG2+ followed by Bxc6
    Edit: never mind: BG2+ goes 3. Bf3 Bxf3 3. Kxf3 with a win.

  • @lusterris9183
    @lusterris9183 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not the new channel in the description being removed for youtube TOS 😭💀 def remake it, seems cool 👍

  • @sieu-deletion
    @sieu-deletion 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think the key move to win this puzzle is bring the king to b6 to invade to the b8 square, on that white can chase the black bishop away

  • @misharatkevich9808
    @misharatkevich9808 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wanted to mention Bb7, but everyone else already did... crazy position.

  • @cerebralcomics
    @cerebralcomics 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Second line had a cooler resolve imo. 😋

  • @clayturner9113
    @clayturner9113 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The reason you couldn't move the king towards the pawn was it opened up the square to allow the opponent to skewer the pawn with the bishop and if you move the king to any other square, their king can hunt down the pawn while boxing your king out as it's too far away

  • @icommittovideossometimes
    @icommittovideossometimes 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The point of Be2 is because you are trying to trade off the bishops, which is not going to happen but also taking the b5 square from the king WITH TEMPO so then after the bishop moves then play King d4, keeping the black king away from the pawn

  • @rakibhossain8463
    @rakibhossain8463 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really, Crazy 😂😂😂😂

  • @dimitarivanov3817
    @dimitarivanov3817 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sign me up for the second channel. As for the position I was expecting it. You are amazing at the puzzle explanations.

  • @davebrown6552
    @davebrown6552 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the first brain ache was it gave your king an extra move since black had to move the bishop. the second one is it blocked blacks king from b5

  • @user-rz8rg1kw4b
    @user-rz8rg1kw4b 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    12:13 hey nelson why dosent Bb7 work here? it still blocks the other bishop and he has no way to defend the c8 square

  • @rosevea5915
    @rosevea5915 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro im so good at puzzles like this but in the real chess game i have pressure and dont know what to do

  • @Ewheii
    @Ewheii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Couldn’t you also go Bb7 at 3:21? Blocking the bishop out, they can’t take or you take with king. If they move their bishop you promote. I believe that also works, correct me if I’m wrong.