You're asking moi if Shane grows on me? You had it coming, Sodor! Always knew that Shane would learn to love me - that brooding guy in the corner with stubbles and a bit of an attitude? Your short with the bad guy from "The Incredibles" caught me perfectly
@sodorart He was my first spouse, I love him 🥰 Maybe you could do a video about him post-marriage..? 👀👀 I am so interested to hear different perspectives. It felt like he regressed so much, but I've seen other people say that sobriety doesn't have to mean being fully sober but idk man 😭😅
I like to imagine Shane’s brain betraying him with regret about his attitude, just a little. He’s going to bed next to the sleeping farmer, he brushes some hair out of their face and thinks to himself how happy he is. Then as he’s falling asleep he remembers a rude thing he said or awful thought he had about his best friend and love of his life, he’s laying there like “Whyyy?” In the morning he wakes up first and makes breakfast, saying he just felt like it while being a bit clingy. Embrace him!
the town gossip is a good point but let me raise you one, think what the gossip must have been when he moved in, whereas we got "did you hear about the new farmer, I hope they're doing well!" he probably got something more along the lines of "did you hear about Marnie's nephew, he's such a mess. maybe if he drank less he could take care of Jas so Marnie doesn't have to pick up the slack" and i know many of the people reading this don't want to imagine their favorite characters saying something like that, but the beauty of stardews writing is that the characters are flawed
@@sodorart yea, small towns can be great and awful in that way. Even how Alex was likely talked about. Hearing all the stuff about his Dad, his drinking and then Shane also struggling with Alcohol. I am sure Alex said something to him about his drinking. I love Alex, but I could easily see him get angry at Shane for being like his dad.
@@mikeval1525 Are we nice, or do we want the recognition/attention?? /lh /hj I remember after fixing Pam’s trailer, Robin asked if I wanted to be an anonymous donator, and I thought um no? I just spent a fortune on this house, I want to talk to them! And Robin kinda gave me a look and something like a “…okay” and it may not have been intended to shame me, but I sure FELT shamed for wanting the full credit. 😭😂
I also came from a small town and I can attest: people do talk. A lot. So Shane absolutely would have heard about the farmer all the time. Oh, and I did live in one of the largest cities in the world and can also attest: most people don't have the patience to deal with some random stranger going "Good morning!" or trying to engage with small talk. For us, in a video game that's normal. Video game logic if you will. But if you do that in a large city? Yeah, people will be confused and Shane's reaction is normal. Also we didn't just got a nice plot of land, but it is basically about the size of Pelican Town itself, much larger than Marnie's ranch who, along with Robin's place, seems to be the largest real state in town until the farm got revitalized. And at least in my neck of the woods, sometimes rural proprieties get sold and become whole neighborhoods so yeah, that's a lot. In a sense, if the player wanted instead of keep being a farmer they could make some crazy money with the land alone. Meanwhile, Shane is basically a single parent who relies on favors to get by and realistically would never have the opportunity to learn what he would really want to do. That probably stings a lot.
I definitely relate to Shane’s attitude. I feel like I can’t say stuff without saying something rude. It just… when you’re miserable… you don’t want people to ignore it, and you just try and make them feel it too… it’s not fun.
@pemanilnoob aww! I'm so sorry to hear. I'm kinda used to being told to bottle it up, put a smile on, and save all that ugly pain, loss, sorrow, anger, and sadness for somewhere where it looks pretty and convenient. So definitely get why he'd wanna drown his sorrows, but that definitely isn't a solution, on the contrary
I have farms with almost every marriage candidate and Shane is by far my favorite. That one is my second oldest save and I just keep going back to it at random times. He reminds me a lot of myself during a really difficult time in my life. I was in an accident involving a brain trauma with a long recovery and some permanent deficits that led to a sharp decline in my mental health. Depression is something I am likely going to live with for the rest of my life, and happiness and survival are more about managing it than magically becoming all better. Shane reminds me that love is something people don’t have to be perfect to deserve, and playing with him as the marriage partner lets me treat him how I want to be treated. It makes me feel really safe in that way. I realize his addiction and mental health issues are triggering for a lot of people, but I lost friends in real life due to what I went through and it’s made me realize someone being triggered in that way can make people (or people and characters) incompatible without either person (or character) necessarily being wrong or bad.
Not related to the video but I have a theory about why Pelican Town is dying town with almost no space for progres. This place was never build as a town to live in. It start with coal mine, today known as a quarry mine. Community centre was oryginaly build as a hotel for mine workers. They suposed to sleep in the hotel during work days and travel back home in weekends and holidays. But some of them stay even on their off work days or bring their families with them and they needed some place to relaks. Someone build saloon and Yoba shrine for them and playground, shop and some houses for their families. At the same time some rare minerals found in the mine attract scientist and collectors who build museum. After some time old marinier visit this place with his son, Willy (In this theory Old Marinier an Birdie are copule an Willy is their son). They make a deal with hotel owners. Offered one day long trips to the tropical island and share the money with person who advertise this idea and bring turist. The city was growing, more atractions for turist was made and everyone seemd happy. But three bad things happend in a short period of thime. Explosion led to the closure of the mine, earthquake blocked rirload and train never stopped in Petican Town again. And storm killed Old marinier and damaged boat to the point Willy no longer can bring turist to the Ginger Island. After some time of grieving Willy ask Levis for help to repair the boat but Levis said is only Willys problem and refuse to help. Levis was at a time unexperienced as a mayor and he didn't see how important those trips are to the local economy. Mine workers come back to their homes becouse there was no job for them, turist stoped visiting after trips stop happening. Only people who stil move to the town was people like Leah who want to escape loud city and their previous lifes. At first it was god enouth. Levis bring the idea of festivals and community centre, creating traditions that bring people together. In his eyes it suposed to attract more people who would enjoy simpler lifes. It worked but bring much less money tan a turist so town start falling apart and Levis pride don't let him admit he make some wrong decisions and ask other townsfolk for help. Thats why he rely on us that much. He can ask for farmers help in secret and not destroy image and authority he thinks he has in others people eyes.
Shane hates me in particular because I showed up in Pelican town dressed like his blue chickens, have everyone refer to me as dirt muncher, and named my farm "Shane please"
I think some people cannot deal with people not wanting to engage with them, both in game and in real life. I always thought Shane was a little rude, but like those are his 0 heart dialogues, he isn't lying, the farmer doesn't know him, why would he want to talk to the farmer?? And people forgetting there is like 30 people in this town is funny as hell. The gossip in Stardew Valley must be insane.
after the added dialogue in the 1.6 update Jodi has something to say about every cutscene or advancement you unlock. She knows everybody's business. Shane's 6 heart event is just the tip of the iceberg.
One thing is with Shane’s schedule means that the farmer would also be really irritating for Shane since Shane is most likely trying to get to work at 7:10 and here is your character trying to stop and chat at (From Shane’s perspective) an incredibly inconvenient time so the rude response is just to make sure that you, the farmer don’t go off on a longwinded conversation as whilst he probably hates Jojamart, he still needs that job and getting written up for being late could jeopardise it - and also if he going to the job he hates, he wouldn’t be in the most sociable mood anyway so may be incline to take out some of this frustration on the farmer. Alternatively the second most common place is the saloon where Shane has made it very obvious that he isn’t in a sociable mood just by his posturing away from everyone, back to the wall (looking as uninviting as possible) and having the farmer come over might be very annoying since he just wants to be left in peace. - both of which wouldn’t be helped by depression since he probably would be isolating himself from others anyway. This is more just looking at his schedule than anything as that alone would be enough for a sour taste to be left in Shane’s mouth when meeting the farmer if all they do for a week is try to talk to him when Shane is trying not to fried since Jojamart seems to be the only employer in the area that’s hiring and would mean that he would still see Jas - since he still cares about Jas and if he got sacked from Joja, Shane would probably need to move back to Zuzu City and potentially only see Jas on holidays so it’s understandable if he’d be a little grouchy since Jas offers him a little light in his life. Basically the farmer would be almost guaranteed thee most annoying neighbour when first meeting Shane - but the farmer still keeps coming at the most inopportune times so he takes a while to warm up since both the depression and having the farmer show up randomly at the worst times would make the farmer a hard pill to swallow at first.
My theory about Jas's parents: They died in an accident visiting Pelican Town or at LEAST going through the town. There are skid marks and a slightly damaged wood fence by the bus tunnel - plus the bus is broken down - while Pam has no dialog about hitting anyone - maybe the bus was broken before and it was a dark winter day [or raining] and Jas's parents tried to avoid the bus after seeing it, skidded and crashed their car. The farmer is just far enough outside of Pelican Town that Shane might not make the association - but his god daughter is there regardless. And considering his love hate relationship with alcohol - maybe it was a drunk driving accident -- since he seems to hate himself for drinking but also is using it to cope.
Shane was one I married first because his introvertedness reminded me of my real-life wife. We met in college and she wouldn't even speak to me for the first three days I sat next to her. I get the mistrust of an outgoing person from an intrevert. Just like Shane sometimes they just need a friend who doesn't judge or get upset when they are short with them or absent. Nice vid.
Shane is alot of people I know, stuck in unfortunate circumstances and caught in the mundane rat race just to make ends meet. It can be grueling and exhausting and makes people bitter towards life for sure. Very epic video as always sodor
Honestly when I started playing the game (literally august 1st this year) I did it cause I've heard a lot and wanted to try it and I had a Lot of preconceptions about the npcs, like Alex a stereotypical jock, or Shane someone who and I quote "needs to be fixed" but OMG I'm glad I took the time to know these characters, like Shane really grew up on me, cause of his story, his relationship with Marnie and Jas, and how much he evolves as a person and how much he changes trough his heart events and I truly loved that even though we are there to support him, he's willing to change and looks for help himself and does the change by himself not because of the farmer, easily he became my second favorite bachelor (the first one is Sam BTW IDK why I tend to gravitate towards him and falling for him like 90% of the time) but I have to say that I agree 100% with everything you said in the video, and also congrats for the 5K you definitely deserve much more subs cause your content is truly amazing! 😁
I didn’t like Shane when I first played the game in 2022, but then I found out about his backstory from another yt video, and now I honestly relate to him a lot
bahahaha the thumbnail is everything xD But great video!! I was one of those people who didn't really make an effort to get to know shane because he told me off and I didn't want to bother, but seeing things framed from his perspective it makes sense. I will give him a new change!!
Oof. Never thought about it like that. To be fair to Shane, I've resented people for less. You know, it just occurred to me that despite Shane being Jas' legal guardian she doesn’t move in to the farm with him if the player marries him. So that's weird.
@@andrewtyrell4795 I wish there was a dialogue about this or a cutscene. Ultimately, I'm glad she doesn't move to the farm because Marnie has been taking care of her, not so much Shane... so her best bet is with Marnie IMO
I think Marnie, as Jas' closest relative,is Jas' legal guardian. Shane is merely Jas' godfather. He swore to step in in case of a sad case like this ,but he probably didn't consider that this would be the case - he just lost his friend, and now he's left here
@@sodorart You're probably right, I just thought it might be nice to at least have the option to have her join the family since by then Shane is on the mend and I probably unemployed.
Off topic but what do you think chronological order of people who are born and lived there their whole lives to the ones have just moved there just couple of months ago like Shane and probably Haley? I think Evelyn and George have lived there the longest and have possible either came from somewhere else or were born there like Abigail. I like to think Haley was the newest resident of rhe town before us, the farmer. She has this vibes of being force to live out here in the sticks and yearning for her old life in the city. Even though Shane moved here recently, I think he use to live here as kid or spend some summers here at the ranch.
Stardew Valley is a fan-fic writer's dream come true. There's just enough there to set you off on a long-winded meditation on how Shane got custody of Jas in the first place, for example. Or the whole Robin/Demetrius/Sebastian/Maru dynamic - which could be a whole short-story all by itself. Or Kent and the war and the things he experienced, which could be a novel. Or Willy's backstory - or Harvey's, or Leah's, or Elliott's for that matter. Most of the people there are transplants from the city. Where are they from? How did they end up in Pelican Town? There's no way of knowing that, but I've got to know - so I make it up myself! Some of the theories I've seen in the forums are bonkers bananas insane, but a lot of it is really creative and plausible. One of the things I love is how Stardew lends itself to all of this creativity. You see it in the modding community, you see it in the fan-fic, you see it in the thousand different ways people play this game and what they bring to it - you see it in the elaborate farm designs - not mine, though! My farms always look like I'm a humble dirt farmer on the verge of bankruptcy!
My personal theory / headcanon is whatever happened to jas parents happened right in front of Shane it could have been a car wreck he could have even been in the car with them either way he watched the two people he was closest to die in front of his eyes And that's when he started drinking everyday he has to live with the trauma of watching his two best friends die in front of him
This is exactly how i feel about Shane with my (first ever) farmer, not only he got all of that, i also "roleplay" that my farner is pretty tall and quite beefy, while Shane is insecure about his looks, height and weight. So my Jon really is must have pushed so many buttons... 😅
I don't remember if I got this theory from the game, or a fan-fic, but I remember thinking Shane at least believes it was his fault Jaz's parents died.
Shane is rude but he's also like... the easiest person in the entire town to befriend. Man has cheap tastes and an easy routine, you can get him to max hearts in one season. Sooooo I think his unfriendliness is a BIT overblown.
FIRST!!!! Can’t wait to watch cuz I hate Shane’s resentment towards the player:( we just moved here we, trying to learn the ways of the valley. And you also give the best theory’s! Can’t wait to see why he hates us😜 (Also I always compared jojo to Walmart and not Amazon but it makes sense too.)
I dunno if he hates us necessarily, hate is a strong word. I do think he's extremely jealous and envious of you and tries to create a gap between you two, resulting in his rude behaviour. Actually hating the farmer... I always say that hate is such a strong word that most of our 'hating people' is more like just really strong disliking.
I love seeing the explanation of his behavior. I’m a diehard Shane fan through and through (partially bc I relate so much) but it’s annoying when people write him off as a terrible romance candidate bc of his flaws. No one is ever excusing these things, rather they look past it to find the beauty in him as a character, as they should with every NPC
I might forgive him when later in the game... but he's too fragile that he might get to relapse. Been with the an exfriend in real life who's addicted with substance and relapsed many times over and over again until you just stopped helping them; forgive them and then go away from their lives otherwise they will drag you in the end. Shane reminds me of him.
@@MikeykeyPlays Valid, it truly is only with the help of us (an actual superhuman) and Harvey's wonderful skillset and Marnie's support that Shane can make progress. Not everyone has that
I wish ConcernedApe had a different marriage event with him. It's not romantic or sweet. It's the farmer doubting Shane's sobriety and a fight. That's It. No resolve. And we can't change or influence anything at all during it.
Shane's a little brash but it makes sense. He's got a lot of insecurities being an addict so when someone new moves into town and throws their hand at him on his way to his stinkin dead end job it's hard to return the enthusiasm.
Ooof, after the news article about the lady actually dying at her desk and not discovered for three days while coworkers didn't even bother to find where the smell was coming from, I think that probably ought to be edited out of the game because it's no longer a joke.
The game already deals with some pretty heavy stuff on par with that skeleton I'd say. Apart from your comment I haven't heard of the irl incident, but there are people who'd find the joke even funnier now that it's true.
@@AndyCandyZeroSugar It happened in, Ohio I think, a few weeks ago. It was actually quite sad because nobody even went to talk to her about work tasks for three days and they all just assumed she was no-show instead of checking to make sure she was actually at her desk. It wasn't even amazon, the coworkers just didn't care enough to check on her. She was literally forgotten and ignored.
Once a player marries Shane, he goes back to slobs Ville, footprints in his room, cloths & soda can thrown around on the floor. All marriages on Stardew valley go down in dialogue value, & the children never progress, or grow, they are thrown away in the witches' liar. So haunting when they turn into doves. I play the game & skip the marriage business.😞
I grew up in the South. Nodding to strangers and greeting them with "Good morning!" is not considered assault. It's just basic manners. Shane's responses are just rude. He takes more effort rebuffing you than simply responding with a nod and "Have a nice day!" would take. Considering there are 20+ people who live in the entire community, you are not a stranger. That's the size of a grade school class.
In Seattle, a nod alone is pretty typical, if a greeting at all- we usually don't verbally engage people who clearly have places to be, things to do, and their minds filled with the ins and outs of living. While it would still be fairly rude, Shane's attitude would not be entirely out of place. We warm up more to acquaintances, but it can take a fair bit to get to that point, especially if someone is annoying you by constantly trying to talk to you every day.
Shane is a well-written character who is clearly struggling and needs support but as marriage material?? every time i think about dating him I can't help but suspect his hygiene isn't that great 😅 and I know what struggling alcoholics can smell like.
I feel like the facts that Shane doesn't say please is my issue. I feel like Shane is more than an introvert, I think he is ND. I am too and I totally get the not wanting to be social and asking people to leave you alone, but I also learned to say please. It is totally ok for Shane to set boundaries, to not want to talk and to want to be alone. He is for sure rude AF, but no, I think it is malicious.
Thank yall so much for 5k subs !!! So, do yall like Shane? Does he grow on you?
You're asking moi if Shane grows on me? You had it coming, Sodor!
Always knew that Shane would learn to love me - that brooding guy in the corner with stubbles and a bit of an attitude? Your short with the bad guy from "The Incredibles" caught me perfectly
@sodorart He was my first spouse, I love him 🥰 Maybe you could do a video about him post-marriage..? 👀👀 I am so interested to hear different perspectives. It felt like he regressed so much, but I've seen other people say that sobriety doesn't have to mean being fully sober but idk man 😭😅
@emilytamar 📝✍
I adore him ❤
I like to imagine Shane’s brain betraying him with regret about his attitude, just a little. He’s going to bed next to the sleeping farmer, he brushes some hair out of their face and thinks to himself how happy he is. Then as he’s falling asleep he remembers a rude thing he said or awful thought he had about his best friend and love of his life, he’s laying there like “Whyyy?”
In the morning he wakes up first and makes breakfast, saying he just felt like it while being a bit clingy. Embrace him!
@@MsAlyssaB1 one of my favourite head canons ever 🥰
the town gossip is a good point but let me raise you one, think what the gossip must have been when he moved in, whereas we got "did you hear about the new farmer, I hope they're doing well!" he probably got something more along the lines of "did you hear about Marnie's nephew, he's such a mess. maybe if he drank less he could take care of Jas so Marnie doesn't have to pick up the slack" and i know many of the people reading this don't want to imagine their favorite characters saying something like that, but the beauty of stardews writing is that the characters are flawed
Omg... the feeling that everyone is judging your mistakes and struggles adds a whole new layer to it
@@sodorart yea, small towns can be great and awful in that way. Even how Alex was likely talked about. Hearing all the stuff about his Dad, his drinking and then Shane also struggling with Alcohol. I am sure Alex said something to him about his drinking. I love Alex, but I could easily see him get angry at Shane for being like his dad.
The new farmer may not have any bills but they definitely have to pay to upgrade the whole town lol.
@@lacemsboo LOL
In universe, you are just that nice of a person.
@@mikeval1525 Are we nice, or do we want the recognition/attention?? /lh /hj
I remember after fixing Pam’s trailer, Robin asked if I wanted to be an anonymous donator, and I thought um no? I just spent a fortune on this house, I want to talk to them!
And Robin kinda gave me a look and something like a “…okay” and it may not have been intended to shame me, but I sure FELT shamed for wanting the full credit. 😭😂
The new farmer walking down the street greeting everyone like it’s the start of Beauty and the Beast “bonjour! bonjour!”
Shane: 😑
I also came from a small town and I can attest: people do talk. A lot. So Shane absolutely would have heard about the farmer all the time.
Oh, and I did live in one of the largest cities in the world and can also attest: most people don't have the patience to deal with some random stranger going "Good morning!" or trying to engage with small talk. For us, in a video game that's normal. Video game logic if you will. But if you do that in a large city? Yeah, people will be confused and Shane's reaction is normal.
Also we didn't just got a nice plot of land, but it is basically about the size of Pelican Town itself, much larger than Marnie's ranch who, along with Robin's place, seems to be the largest real state in town until the farm got revitalized. And at least in my neck of the woods, sometimes rural proprieties get sold and become whole neighborhoods so yeah, that's a lot. In a sense, if the player wanted instead of keep being a farmer they could make some crazy money with the land alone.
Meanwhile, Shane is basically a single parent who relies on favors to get by and realistically would never have the opportunity to learn what he would really want to do. That probably stings a lot.
This is exactly what I thought. He also shows jealousy when Pam gets a house, so it makes sense that he's jealous of us at first too 😭
I like this theory but i think his reason is just a depression thing: he thinks hes no good, and is avoiding hurt us by hurting us 😅
and overworked in worn out clothes - I'm not at my most forthcoming either when I'm caught looking not exactly looking my most presentable XD
I definitely relate to Shane’s attitude. I feel like I can’t say stuff without saying something rude. It just… when you’re miserable… you don’t want people to ignore it, and you just try and make them feel it too… it’s not fun.
@pemanilnoob aww! I'm so sorry to hear. I'm kinda used to being told to bottle it up, put a smile on, and save all that ugly pain, loss, sorrow, anger, and sadness for somewhere where it looks pretty and convenient. So definitely get why he'd wanna drown his sorrows, but that definitely isn't a solution, on the contrary
I have farms with almost every marriage candidate and Shane is by far my favorite. That one is my second oldest save and I just keep going back to it at random times. He reminds me a lot of myself during a really difficult time in my life. I was in an accident involving a brain trauma with a long recovery and some permanent deficits that led to a sharp decline in my mental health. Depression is something I am likely going to live with for the rest of my life, and happiness and survival are more about managing it than magically becoming all better. Shane reminds me that love is something people don’t have to be perfect to deserve, and playing with him as the marriage partner lets me treat him how I want to be treated. It makes me feel really safe in that way. I realize his addiction and mental health issues are triggering for a lot of people, but I lost friends in real life due to what I went through and it’s made me realize someone being triggered in that way can make people (or people and characters) incompatible without either person (or character) necessarily being wrong or bad.
@@bri972 Shane is such a special treasure 💞 ConcernedApe really did a great job with his story and writing
Not related to the video but I have a theory about why Pelican Town is dying town with almost no space for progres.
This place was never build as a town to live in. It start with coal mine, today known as a quarry mine. Community centre was oryginaly build as a hotel for mine workers. They suposed to sleep in the hotel during work days and travel back home in weekends and holidays. But some of them stay even on their off work days or bring their families with them and they needed some place to relaks. Someone build saloon and Yoba shrine for them and playground, shop and some houses for their families. At the same time some rare minerals found in the mine attract scientist and collectors who build museum.
After some time old marinier visit this place with his son, Willy (In this theory Old Marinier an Birdie are copule an Willy is their son). They make a deal with hotel owners. Offered one day long trips to the tropical island and share the money with person who advertise this idea and bring turist. The city was growing, more atractions for turist was made and everyone seemd happy.
But three bad things happend in a short period of thime. Explosion led to the closure of the mine, earthquake blocked rirload and train never stopped in Petican Town again. And storm killed Old marinier and damaged boat to the point Willy no longer can bring turist to the Ginger Island. After some time of grieving Willy ask Levis for help to repair the boat but Levis said is only Willys problem and refuse to help. Levis was at a time unexperienced as a mayor and he didn't see how important those trips are to the local economy.
Mine workers come back to their homes becouse there was no job for them, turist stoped visiting after trips stop happening. Only people who stil move to the town was people like Leah who want to escape loud city and their previous lifes. At first it was god enouth. Levis bring the idea of festivals and community centre, creating traditions that bring people together. In his eyes it suposed to attract more people who would enjoy simpler lifes. It worked but bring much less money tan a turist so town start falling apart and Levis pride don't let him admit he make some wrong decisions and ask other townsfolk for help.
Thats why he rely on us that much. He can ask for farmers help in secret and not destroy image and authority he thinks he has in others people eyes.
Wow, I love this theory. Thanks for sharing!
Shane hates me in particular because I showed up in Pelican town dressed like his blue chickens, have everyone refer to me as dirt muncher, and named my farm "Shane please"
I think some people cannot deal with people not wanting to engage with them, both in game and in real life.
I always thought Shane was a little rude, but like those are his 0 heart dialogues, he isn't lying, the farmer doesn't know him, why would he want to talk to the farmer??
And people forgetting there is like 30 people in this town is funny as hell. The gossip in Stardew Valley must be insane.
after the added dialogue in the 1.6 update Jodi has something to say about every cutscene or advancement you unlock. She knows everybody's business. Shane's 6 heart event is just the tip of the iceberg.
One thing is with Shane’s schedule means that the farmer would also be really irritating for Shane since Shane is most likely trying to get to work at 7:10 and here is your character trying to stop and chat at (From Shane’s perspective) an incredibly inconvenient time so the rude response is just to make sure that you, the farmer don’t go off on a longwinded conversation as whilst he probably hates Jojamart, he still needs that job and getting written up for being late could jeopardise it - and also if he going to the job he hates, he wouldn’t be in the most sociable mood anyway so may be incline to take out some of this frustration on the farmer.
Alternatively the second most common place is the saloon where Shane has made it very obvious that he isn’t in a sociable mood just by his posturing away from everyone, back to the wall (looking as uninviting as possible) and having the farmer come over might be very annoying since he just wants to be left in peace. - both of which wouldn’t be helped by depression since he probably would be isolating himself from others anyway.
This is more just looking at his schedule than anything as that alone would be enough for a sour taste to be left in Shane’s mouth when meeting the farmer if all they do for a week is try to talk to him when Shane is trying not to fried since Jojamart seems to be the only employer in the area that’s hiring and would mean that he would still see Jas - since he still cares about Jas and if he got sacked from Joja, Shane would probably need to move back to Zuzu City and potentially only see Jas on holidays so it’s understandable if he’d be a little grouchy since Jas offers him a little light in his life.
Basically the farmer would be almost guaranteed thee most annoying neighbour when first meeting Shane - but the farmer still keeps coming at the most inopportune times so he takes a while to warm up since both the depression and having the farmer show up randomly at the worst times would make the farmer a hard pill to swallow at first.
My theory about Jas's parents: They died in an accident visiting Pelican Town or at LEAST going through the town. There are skid marks and a slightly damaged wood fence by the bus tunnel - plus the bus is broken down - while Pam has no dialog about hitting anyone - maybe the bus was broken before and it was a dark winter day [or raining] and Jas's parents tried to avoid the bus after seeing it, skidded and crashed their car.
The farmer is just far enough outside of Pelican Town that Shane might not make the association - but his god daughter is there regardless.
And considering his love hate relationship with alcohol - maybe it was a drunk driving accident -- since he seems to hate himself for drinking but also is using it to cope.
Shane was one I married first because his introvertedness reminded me of my real-life wife. We met in college and she wouldn't even speak to me for the first three days I sat next to her. I get the mistrust of an outgoing person from an intrevert. Just like Shane sometimes they just need a friend who doesn't judge or get upset when they are short with them or absent. Nice vid.
Shane is alot of people I know, stuck in unfortunate circumstances and caught in the mundane rat race just to make ends meet. It can be grueling and exhausting and makes people bitter towards life for sure. Very epic video as always sodor
@@Legendary_dragoon34 thank you !!!
Honestly when I started playing the game (literally august 1st this year) I did it cause I've heard a lot and wanted to try it and I had a Lot of preconceptions about the npcs, like Alex a stereotypical jock, or Shane someone who and I quote "needs to be fixed" but OMG I'm glad I took the time to know these characters, like Shane really grew up on me, cause of his story, his relationship with Marnie and Jas, and how much he evolves as a person and how much he changes trough his heart events and I truly loved that even though we are there to support him, he's willing to change and looks for help himself and does the change by himself not because of the farmer, easily he became my second favorite bachelor (the first one is Sam BTW IDK why I tend to gravitate towards him and falling for him like 90% of the time) but I have to say that I agree 100% with everything you said in the video, and also congrats for the 5K you definitely deserve much more subs cause your content is truly amazing! 😁
Thank you so much!!!
I didn’t like Shane when I first played the game in 2022, but then I found out about his backstory from another yt video, and now I honestly relate to him a lot
bahahaha the thumbnail is everything xD But great video!! I was one of those people who didn't really make an effort to get to know shane because he told me off and I didn't want to bother, but seeing things framed from his perspective it makes sense. I will give him a new change!!
The point emoji KILLS me LMFAO
Oof. Never thought about it like that. To be fair to Shane, I've resented people for less.
You know, it just occurred to me that despite Shane being Jas' legal guardian she doesn’t move in to the farm with him if the player marries him. So that's weird.
@@andrewtyrell4795 I wish there was a dialogue about this or a cutscene. Ultimately, I'm glad she doesn't move to the farm because Marnie has been taking care of her, not so much Shane... so her best bet is with Marnie IMO
I think Marnie, as Jas' closest relative,is Jas' legal guardian. Shane is merely Jas' godfather. He swore to step in in case of a sad case like this ,but he probably didn't consider that this would be the case - he just lost his friend, and now he's left here
@@jakobraahauge7299 Marnie and Jas are not related.
@@sodorart You're probably right, I just thought it might be nice to at least have the option to have her join the family since by then Shane is on the mend and I probably unemployed.
@@naeynaey9019 Gee! I thought Marnie was Jas' aunt - thanks for correcting!
Off topic but what do you think chronological order of people who are born and lived there their whole lives to the ones have just moved there just couple of months ago like Shane and probably Haley?
I think Evelyn and George have lived there the longest and have possible either came from somewhere else or were born there like Abigail. I like to think Haley was the newest resident of rhe town before us, the farmer. She has this vibes of being force to live out here in the sticks and yearning for her old life in the city.
Even though Shane moved here recently, I think he use to live here as kid or spend some summers here at the ranch.
nice little piece of head canon! I get the same kinda vibe
@@TheNicMMc oh this is a great video idea!!
Stardew Valley is a fan-fic writer's dream come true. There's just enough there to set you off on a long-winded meditation on how Shane got custody of Jas in the first place, for example. Or the whole Robin/Demetrius/Sebastian/Maru dynamic - which could be a whole short-story all by itself. Or Kent and the war and the things he experienced, which could be a novel. Or Willy's backstory - or Harvey's, or Leah's, or Elliott's for that matter. Most of the people there are transplants from the city. Where are they from? How did they end up in Pelican Town?
There's no way of knowing that, but I've got to know - so I make it up myself!
Some of the theories I've seen in the forums are bonkers bananas insane, but a lot of it is really creative and plausible. One of the things I love is how Stardew lends itself to all of this creativity. You see it in the modding community, you see it in the fan-fic, you see it in the thousand different ways people play this game and what they bring to it - you see it in the elaborate farm designs - not mine, though! My farms always look like I'm a humble dirt farmer on the verge of bankruptcy!
My personal theory / headcanon is whatever happened to jas parents happened right in front of Shane it could have been a car wreck he could have even been in the car with them either way he watched the two people he was closest to die in front of his eyes
And that's when he started drinking everyday he has to live with the trauma of watching his two best friends die in front of him
These theory's provide amazing depth to the characters makes the world of stardew valley so much brighter
Glad you enjoy them!!
This is exactly how i feel about Shane with my (first ever) farmer, not only he got all of that, i also "roleplay" that my farner is pretty tall and quite beefy, while Shane is insecure about his looks, height and weight. So my Jon really is must have pushed so many buttons... 😅
When I met Shane, I was like, "This dude is a jerk, I'm gonna make him love me." Then I married him. And now he's my favorite bachelor.
I don't remember if I got this theory from the game, or a fan-fic, but I remember thinking Shane at least believes it was his fault Jaz's parents died.
Shane is rude but he's also like... the easiest person in the entire town to befriend. Man has cheap tastes and an easy routine, you can get him to max hearts in one season. Sooooo I think his unfriendliness is a BIT overblown.
FIRST!!!! Can’t wait to watch cuz I hate Shane’s resentment towards the player:( we just moved here we, trying to learn the ways of the valley. And you also give the best theory’s! Can’t wait to see why he hates us😜
(Also I always compared jojo to Walmart and not Amazon but it makes sense too.)
Walmart is a solid comparison!!!
I dunno if he hates us necessarily, hate is a strong word. I do think he's extremely jealous and envious of you and tries to create a gap between you two, resulting in his rude behaviour. Actually hating the farmer... I always say that hate is such a strong word that most of our 'hating people' is more like just really strong disliking.
I love seeing the explanation of his behavior. I’m a diehard Shane fan through and through (partially bc I relate so much) but it’s annoying when people write him off as a terrible romance candidate bc of his flaws. No one is ever excusing these things, rather they look past it to find the beauty in him as a character, as they should with every NPC
I might forgive him when later in the game... but he's too fragile that he might get to relapse. Been with the an exfriend in real life who's addicted with substance and relapsed many times over and over again until you just stopped helping them; forgive them and then go away from their lives otherwise they will drag you in the end. Shane reminds me of him.
@@MikeykeyPlays Valid, it truly is only with the help of us (an actual superhuman) and Harvey's wonderful skillset and Marnie's support that Shane can make progress. Not everyone has that
I wish ConcernedApe had a different marriage event with him. It's not romantic or sweet. It's the farmer doubting Shane's sobriety and a fight. That's It. No resolve. And we can't change or influence anything at all during it.
It is always a good day when sodor uploads
Thanks! Glad you enjoy my videos!
Shane's a little brash but it makes sense. He's got a lot of insecurities being an addict so when someone new moves into town and throws their hand at him on his way to his stinkin dead end job it's hard to return the enthusiasm.
Wow this was worded and thought out in such a good way :) Made me really think about Shane differently
Yippeee!!!
thanks for all the refreshing views!
it's so effed up that the easiest way to get hearts with shane is literally by enabling his alcoholism.
I never give him beer, only hot peppers, pizza or pepper poppers!
@SCP01986 yea ijs it's easy to max out his friendship quick if u enable his drinking bc u can just buy him a beer at the saloon.
You thanked for 5k subs, I thought you had like 200k, your content is great!!
That's why after meeting Shane, my goal in Stardew Valley is make him happy 😊
i loved him the moment i saw him 😭
Ooof, after the news article about the lady actually dying at her desk and not discovered for three days while coworkers didn't even bother to find where the smell was coming from, I think that probably ought to be edited out of the game because it's no longer a joke.
The game already deals with some pretty heavy stuff on par with that skeleton I'd say. Apart from your comment I haven't heard of the irl incident, but there are people who'd find the joke even funnier now that it's true.
@@AndyCandyZeroSugar It happened in, Ohio I think, a few weeks ago. It was actually quite sad because nobody even went to talk to her about work tasks for three days and they all just assumed she was no-show instead of checking to make sure she was actually at her desk. It wasn't even amazon, the coworkers just didn't care enough to check on her. She was literally forgotten and ignored.
Once a player marries Shane, he goes back to slobs Ville, footprints in his room, cloths & soda can thrown around on the floor. All marriages on Stardew valley go down in dialogue value, & the children never progress, or grow, they are thrown away in the witches' liar. So haunting when they turn into doves. I play the game & skip the marriage business.😞
why Shane dont bring Jas to live with us then? i mean, if he has to take car of her, he cold ask us to bring her where he is living, with us
New Sodor videooo
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But this sounds like similar to the first episode?
@@TheNicMMc of the podcast?
I grew up in the South. Nodding to strangers and greeting them with "Good morning!" is not considered assault. It's just basic manners. Shane's responses are just rude. He takes more effort rebuffing you than simply responding with a nod and "Have a nice day!" would take.
Considering there are 20+ people who live in the entire community, you are not a stranger. That's the size of a grade school class.
In Seattle, a nod alone is pretty typical, if a greeting at all- we usually don't verbally engage people who clearly have places to be, things to do, and their minds filled with the ins and outs of living. While it would still be fairly rude, Shane's attitude would not be entirely out of place. We warm up more to acquaintances, but it can take a fair bit to get to that point, especially if someone is annoying you by constantly trying to talk to you every day.
Shane keeps telling me to go away T^T
But that's why I like him... Because he's rude to us
I marry him or Haley every time 😂
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I mean if he wants to go into skull cavern or the volcano and fight monsters for us be my guest. How is the farmer even still alive.
Shane is a well-written character who is clearly struggling and needs support but as marriage material?? every time i think about dating him I can't help but suspect his hygiene isn't that great 😅 and I know what struggling alcoholics can smell like.
I feel like the facts that Shane doesn't say please is my issue. I feel like Shane is more than an introvert, I think he is ND. I am too and I totally get the not wanting to be social and asking people to leave you alone, but I also learned to say please. It is totally ok for Shane to set boundaries, to not want to talk and to want to be alone. He is for sure rude AF, but no, I think it is malicious.
TEAM SHANE
If shane hates us if he is romancable