it's just really satisfying to watch those shots of you drifting/ powersliding down the touge. Please make a montage of you just tackling corners on the touge
@@OKANGUVEN99 Yeah, that's how I think of it too. All powerslides are drifts, but not all drifts are powerslides. Like all ducks are birds, but not all birds are ducks.
I found drifting to be faster is when you either going uphill or have really good soft tyres. There, it's essentially a braking technique but with better turning angle at the exit. This also only works if you have enough power to utilize the better turning angle, because otherwise you'd just be wasting momentum. Outside of rally drifting is just pretty showmanship.
Your amazing, its so nice just to watch your driving with all these angles. But your descriptions make it even better. You should upload 50 times a day.
I absolutely love this channel. It's really welcoming and it's helped me a ton. And it's really satisfying to watch him drift down the touge, and it pretty explicit
If you purposefully induced understeer on the power in a FWD car, then the front end of the car will slide, thus, tecincally a powerslide. Very helpful when the car is at a too steep slip angle.
Oh friend, you have helped me grow in the world of motorsports, thanks for your advice, they help me after all And your videos are the best, they are quite dynamic and well explained, and the editing is almost perfect, thanks
I agree with most of what you said. Great video, great explanation! But, for me, a FWD car can't drift. It can slide (not powerslide) with handbrake or even weight transfer, before or after the apex but, for me, drifting is the act of maintaining that slide and a FWD car can't really maintain a slide because as soon as you step on the gas it "straightens" itself. Would love yo hear your opinion on this.
Thanks! Yeah you could call them that. It's probably where the confusion with powersliding FWD stems from. I think people just call them drifts for the sake of argument.
I own a 1996 Ford escort FWD, and in regards to maintaining the slide, you can. You just have to keep dramatically rolling the steering wheel to opposite ends, which keeps throwing the back out and as long as you modulate the power and speed, the oversteer won't correct and you will keep sliding the back out.
@@id8989 I wouldn't exactly call that maintaining a slide but instead doing multiples slides in a single corner (at least from your description that's what I imagine).
It's amazing to me the amount of effort that comes into your vids and yet you don't have a large audience, have you ever thought about branching out to other forms of videos? like moments while driving and such? You're amazing dude and pretty much the reason i bought a wheel and AC
Thanks for the kind words! I did start doing those kind of vids before my sim rig started breaking about a year ago. Should be getting a new wheel soon though, so I may try doing more live gameplays :)
Finally a video to show me friend who always says “AWD drifting is just power sliding” and “Power sliding is when you hold the hand break all the way”.
For me a drift is when you can hold a counter-steer indefinitely. So, if you had an imaginary never-ending corner, you would be able to control your angle with the throttle and maintain a slip angle with counter-steer. That's a drift. Doesn't matter how you initiated, but you can hold it there. Powerslide, on my mind, is something more spontaneous. Like, you get out of a corner with a bit of understeer, and you apply some throttle to unsettle the car. You end up with some oversteer, but also you're still going towards the outside. All 4 wheels kinda losing control, but in a smooth way you can control and gradually straighten out. Powerslide feels like the end of a drift when you start catching it and gaining speed. Or maybe the start of the drift where you do the flick and initiate the kick of the rear wheels. So, start and end are powerslide, maintaining the angle is drifting.
As per my observation powerslide occurs when we try to exit corners at high speed due to pushing gas pedal hard on exiting. Drift occurs when we want to take entry at corners at high speed rather than relying on lift n coast we try delibrately slide the car at entry .
'Intent' is the difference. Drifting is a deliberate act wheras a powerslide is a byproduct of trying to drive too quickly and is unwanted where a drift is intentional and not a byproduct.
I would more characterize drift based on the state the car is in during the slide, rather than any technique used to enter it. If the back end slides, but the front end retains its traction, it's a powerslide. If the front end slides, and the back end also slides but has enough power to grip, it's a drift.
Love your videos, I got so much better since i started racing... well mostly togue racing. Would love to see you in agame and firsthand witness your amazing driving. You should do a racing stream were you invite random viewers. :D Would love to race with you. (Although i would probably lose you after the first couple corners XD)
For dummies: power slide is when it looks like a drift but there’s no tire marks on the road. Drift is when it looks like a drift but there is tire marks on the road
Was this a direct answer to what me and a few others got into about on your comment section not too long ago? 😂 Because i swear this answered every angle perfectly i agree with everything said here, this video was VERY needed to settle disputes everywhere I pray this enlightens everyone who needs it 🤣 i will be linking many people this video. The only thing i would've added (this could be another video entirely), that each method here can be more desirable depending on the car at hand to actually achieve faster lap times, and how cars with certain dimensions, power, and drivetrian are more akin to one particular technique than others also depending on the track at hand.
My only issue with this is that these terms won't work when there's no corner. I feel a drift is just a held power slide regardless of where you start. It's like catching a wave vs just standing up for a second
It might help if you just know that all powerslides are drifts but not all drifts are powerslides. You can drift without powersliding by using lift off oversteer or scandinavian flick. Those aren’t powerslides
It is, but fan boys think you when u do a line u want its power sliding, correct me if im wrong, but if i was to tandem i wouldnt with that so called drift on the inside and ugly, i would drift with the power slider clean nice middle ;)
Yeah, I hate to see when people says AWD is powersliding and it makes question "so are you denying the yaw effect in rally that helps AWD to drift and thinking it's powerslide?"
I don’t think an inertia drift and a Scandinavian flick are the same thing. I think inertia drift is more like transitioning when drifting. It’s when you quickly switch from drifting one way to drifting another way
@@TSRB I think it’s called both. Inertial drift is initial d’s name for it. That’s how it’s used in the show. You can see them doing Scandinavian flicks like it’s nothing but freak out when the 86 transitions because doing that in such a tight space is much harder.
@@pchris nah people freaked out cuz they dont main akina, takumi driven it for over a thousand days on akina so he knows that you can powerslide the high speed corner to scandi flick the next. probably every good racer in initial d got the skills to transition
@@justkev1044 A transition is more impressive to me than a scandi flick though so I'd think it would add to that fact. Plus it's a TV show and while I'm sure both transitions _and_ scandi flicks are supposed to be old news to most of these characters, at least by the end of the show anyway, but their reactions might be played up as this is a new tool to the viewer who might only be just getting into racing and cars in general (like I was the first watch-through) I can't really imagine a scandi flick being very impressive. Even I can do them in Assetto Corsa. What I can't do is transition without over-shooting and spinning out or hitting something so to do so in such a tight space would be impressive to outsiders new to the course who would go "damn ok so we're pulling out all the stops and this is where you do it I guess". I think a transition better fits your description.
Thank you soo much! i once got kicked from a GT5 lobby for drifting a Evo6 TME. host got mad saying saying AWDs can't drift and when i asked him about, instead of a response he just kicked me. misinformed ppl are misinformed
Je vais expliquer ce que moi je voit : 1er drift, appel contre appel, sa consiste a tourner aux sans opposer du virage, pour ensuite tourner dans le sans du virage, et ainsi faire balancer le poids de la voiture, et ainsi que la voiture parte d'elle même en drift, technique utiliser en propulsion, mais aussi en 4WD, ce drift est aussi appeler drift d'inertie (inertial drift en anglais) 2em drift, avec la supra, pour moi c'est du powerslide, il roule normal pui la voiture chasse d'un coup, donc le drift est crée avec une forte accélération, pour faire sa il faux une bonne puissance, en fonction du poids de la voiture, mais globalement c'est l'accélérateur qui en enfoncer un cour instant très fort, ou a fond, pour que l’arrière se mette a glisser de lui même. Mais donc celons toi, avant le sommet c'est du drift, et a partir du sommet c'est du powerslide, et tu fais quoi si dans tous les cas tu démarre la glisse avant le sommet ? c'est alors toujours du drift ?Ou aux contraire si tu démarre toujours le drift aux sommet c'est alors toujours du powerslide ? Donc y a en fais aucune différence entre powerslide et drift !!! Du moins celons t'est dire. Mois ce que j'en panse, le powerslide, c'est du drift amorcer avec la puissance brut de la voiture, et le drift, ben sa reprend en fais tout un ta de technique pour amorcer le drift, qui seront utiliser en fonction de la transmission de celle ci, le powerslide est une des technique de drift, pour amorcer le drift, le frein a main est une autre technique pour amorcer le drift, l'appel contre appel en est encore une autre, la technique de l'embrayage en est une autre, tous sa reviens a faire du drift ! L’amorçage du drift dépens du conducteur, mais aussi de la transmission de la voiture, on amorce pas un drift de la même façon, si on a une traction, une propulsion, ou une 4WD, bien que la technique du frein a main puisse être utiliser sur les 3 type de transmission, c'est pas le cas du powerslide par exemple, qui lui demande de la puissance, mais aussi une propulsion ou une 4WD, il ne fonctionnera pas sur une traction ! De même pour la vitesse, on entre pas de la même façon avec une traction, que une propulsion, ou une 4WD, une traction glissera plus facilement avec une survitesse, une propulsion na pas besoin de survitesse pour glisser, et une 4WD sa vas d’épandre de votre façon de drifter ! Généralement en traction on arrive plus vite que en propu et en 4WD, pour justement que l’arrière se délaisse du poids, qui de toute façon est bien plus importent a l'avant, la sur vitesse fera perdre l'adhérence des pneu arrière, car il auront trop peut de poids pour tenir la voiture bien droite, et donc l’arrière qui est le plus léger partira en crabe. Avec une propulsion, y a plusieurs technique, mais bien souvent on arrive en sous vitesse, on tourne dans le sans du virage et on accélère très fort, pour faire perdre l'adhérence de l’arrière, ce qui est pour moi, le pewerslide, il faux une puissance suffisente pour le faire, une propulsion de 130 Ch n'y arrivera pas, car pas asser puissante, et donc elle seront incapable de provoquer la glisse avec la puissance, par contre comme la Trueno dans la vidéo, certes pas puissante, un appel contre appel la fera glisser, malgré le peut de puissance, pour l'appel contre appel, pour un virage a gauche, on tourner a droite, pour que le poids se mette a gauche, ensuite on tourne a gauche pour balancer le poids a droite, ce qui a pour effet de faire perdre l'adhérance aux pneu arrière, on a plus qua contrebraquer et accélérer pour garder la glisse tous le long du virage. Pour les 4WD bien souvent, on arrive a allure modérer, on tourne dans le sans du virage, on accélérer a fon, se qui fais perdre l’adhérence a l’arrière, et on dose la direction pour garder la glisse dans le virage, les 4WD demande un angle plus prononcer que des propulsion, car l'avant veut replacer la voiture, mais l’arrière veut faire glisser la voiture, donc si on contrebraque la voiture aura tendance a ce replacer d'elle même, empêchant la glisse d’être préserver, si on laisse les roue droite, la glisse se préserve toute seul, car y a équilibre entre l’arrière qui veut faire glisser, et l'avant qui veut ramener la voiture, pour augmenter l'angle il suffit de tourner dans le sans du virage, pour le diminuer de tourner dans le sans opposer aux virage, pour le maintenir de garder les roue droite comme si on étais en ligne droite !
Oh I can assure you that you can powerslide a FWD ;D I thought drift was voluntarily made by the driver and powerslide was just letting the car lose rear grip by itself tho
i don't categorize AWD sliding as drifting simply because the technique is completely different. What will work in a RWD simply wont work in an AWD car. When i hear the word "drifting" i associate that word with specific techniques. Your definition of "drifting" is far too general. As i said AWD and RWD sliding are two completely separate skills, with this in mind i think labeling them as the same thing is simply incorrect. I see a lot of people compare Ken block to FD drivers or drifters in general and it makes me cringe every time. its disappointing that drifting is so misunderstood, even within the car/motorsports community.
Your definition of drift is just far too specific. A drift is a controlled slide before the apex and onwards. Just because there are different techniques requored for different drivetrains, doesn't mean they can't be called the same thing. No need to complicate the matter
@@r3uvsgaming this is not his definition. Look into the rulebook of any "Drift" competition on earth like Formula Drift, Formula Drift Japan, D1GP, DMEC, RDS, or, non other than the FIA International Drift cup. They all require a rear wheel drive car.
@@hayeduce I've seen FWD drifting competitions. They aren't any less valid. The big competitions might only have a RWD class because RWD is subjectively the most entertaining and maybe requires the most skill, but these major competitions not having AWD or FWD divisions doesn't mean that drifting is exclusive to RWD.
@@harbingerofwarx995 just out of curiosity, what do you have to do to win an FWD competition, how is it judged? Im sure its not a tandem comp, cuz just pulling a slide is very inconsistent and only really possible in certain circumstances, let alone slide in a tandem. And you only mention fwd, without any comp names, and no mention of awd. Look, im not saying these drivetrains cant SLIDE. They all slide. But the technique required is different. And imo the RWD technique is what true drifting is. And i've only ever seen RWD tandems. And i mentioned FIA for a reason. Since 2021 FIA recognizes drifting as a legit form of motorsport, thats why they organized their first official event. And it was RWD only.
it's just really satisfying to watch those shots of you drifting/ powersliding down the touge. Please make a montage of you just tackling corners on the touge
He did but he took it down
A powerslide is often a byproduct of trying to go fast, whereas a drift is an alternative to going fast.
I've always thought of it as powerslide being a sub category of drifting. All powerslides are drifts but not all drifts are powerslides.
@@OKANGUVEN99
Yeah, that's how I think of it too.
All powerslides are drifts, but not all drifts are powerslides.
Like all ducks are birds, but not all birds are ducks.
I found drifting to be faster is when you either going uphill or have really good soft tyres. There, it's essentially a braking technique but with better turning angle at the exit. This also only works if you have enough power to utilize the better turning angle, because otherwise you'd just be wasting momentum. Outside of rally drifting is just pretty showmanship.
I'm going to show this to my friends, who always said that “You can't drift a FWD Car”.
interesting...
Don't forget the people saying you can't drift AWD
I think there's a video specifically on how to drift a FWD
you should show them the Fwd (FF) specials from option dvd and drift tengoku dvd
Man, just make him watch some Initial D it'll get the job done too
Your amazing, its so nice just to watch your driving with all these angles. But your descriptions make it even better. You should upload 50 times a day.
I'm struggling with uploading twice a week 😂 Thanks!
@@TSRB take it easy, quality over quantity!
so you have chosen.. death of a youtuber who throwed his logitek g29 to a pool
0:23 this takumi scared the shit out of me 😭💀
I absolutely love this channel. It's really welcoming and it's helped me a ton. And it's really satisfying to watch him drift down the touge, and it pretty explicit
If you purposefully induced understeer on the power in a FWD car, then the front end of the car will slide, thus, tecincally a powerslide. Very helpful when the car is at a too steep slip angle.
Your FWD drifting is super smooth and impressive, as well as all of your techniques great channel love all the driving!
Oh friend, you have helped me grow in the world of motorsports, thanks for your advice, they help me after all
And your videos are the best, they are quite dynamic and well explained, and the editing is almost perfect, thanks
Love the constant supplementary touge clips. You deserve more views!
I just call everything a "skid" because
A; it's funny
B; easyer
Bru your videos are like my classes 😂 I learn so much stuff from your how to touge series.
The background song is Artemis - Elysiaj Fields for anyone who is wondering
thank you for this video, I've been confusing power over and powersliding ever since I got into simracing
and you playing with the gtx 1080 makes me remember when i had a pc simillar to you, i had a gtx 1050ti and the same processor. respect to that man.
Best Sim Touge Racer ever!!!!! This video actually cleared up a lot of doubts. Thanks!
You explain so well and the explanations fit so well with the background video, great job and new sub of course
Meanwhile in japan : "car is car , drift is drift" 🤣
the japanese have such a way with words
That was a very interesting video and awesome editing as well!
I agree with most of what you said. Great video, great explanation! But, for me, a FWD car can't drift. It can slide (not powerslide) with handbrake or even weight transfer, before or after the apex but, for me, drifting is the act of maintaining that slide and a FWD car can't really maintain a slide because as soon as you step on the gas it "straightens" itself. Would love yo hear your opinion on this.
Thanks! Yeah you could call them that. It's probably where the confusion with powersliding FWD stems from. I think people just call them drifts for the sake of argument.
i think the same
I own a 1996 Ford escort FWD, and in regards to maintaining the slide, you can. You just have to keep dramatically rolling the steering wheel to opposite ends, which keeps throwing the back out and as long as you modulate the power and speed, the oversteer won't correct and you will keep sliding the back out.
@@id8989 I wouldn't exactly call that maintaining a slide but instead doing multiples slides in a single corner (at least from your description that's what I imagine).
Look, if the car started sliding before the apex, its a drift, end of. Doesn't matter if it can hold it or not. No need to complicate the matter.
These videos are amazing!!! I learned a lot from your videos. You definitely deserve more subs!
It's amazing to me the amount of effort that comes into your vids and yet you don't have a large audience, have you ever thought about branching out to other forms of videos? like moments while driving and such? You're amazing dude and pretty much the reason i bought a wheel and AC
Thanks for the kind words! I did start doing those kind of vids before my sim rig started breaking about a year ago. Should be getting a new wheel soon though, so I may try doing more live gameplays :)
@@TSRB Glad to hear it! Can't wait to see you back up and racing again
First video I've ever watched by you, amazing content, 100% accurate and informative, BOOM! Subscribed!
you CAN powerslide an FWD. Just gotta do it in reverse.
Finally a video to show me friend who always says “AWD drifting is just power sliding” and “Power sliding is when you hold the hand break all the way”.
Thanks fam, cleared a lot of doubts for me
That Tesla in space reference at 0:58 is so funny
For me a drift is when you can hold a counter-steer indefinitely. So, if you had an imaginary never-ending corner, you would be able to control your angle with the throttle and maintain a slip angle with counter-steer. That's a drift. Doesn't matter how you initiated, but you can hold it there.
Powerslide, on my mind, is something more spontaneous. Like, you get out of a corner with a bit of understeer, and you apply some throttle to unsettle the car. You end up with some oversteer, but also you're still going towards the outside. All 4 wheels kinda losing control, but in a smooth way you can control and gradually straighten out. Powerslide feels like the end of a drift when you start catching it and gaining speed. Or maybe the start of the drift where you do the flick and initiate the kick of the rear wheels.
So, start and end are powerslide, maintaining the angle is drifting.
2:55 common misconception indeed
good explanation
As per my observation powerslide occurs when we try to exit corners at high speed due to pushing gas pedal hard on exiting.
Drift occurs when we want to take entry at corners at high speed rather than relying on lift n coast we try delibrately slide the car at entry .
thank u for making this into a video
nicely done.
That initial d takumi drifts are perfect
I thought you were gonna show the fwd car crashing when you spoke about it not power sliding due to it being fwd but that corner was buttery smooth
Basically drifting happens before the apex, powersliding happens after or on the apex
amazing video man
Awesome video
You are the vanguard of racing knowledge
'Intent' is the difference. Drifting is a deliberate act wheras a powerslide is a byproduct of trying to drive too quickly and is unwanted where a drift is intentional and not a byproduct.
I understood what you were saying in the last minute
I would more characterize drift based on the state the car is in during the slide, rather than any technique used to enter it. If the back end slides, but the front end retains its traction, it's a powerslide. If the front end slides, and the back end also slides but has enough power to grip, it's a drift.
looks so cool how you drift man
Something every new car guy should watch
Nice edit
Yo luv you for making this vid to explain to un-educated people who keep saying AWD drifting is just powersliding and not drifting.
1:44 any1 know what map this is??? ples link
What mod is that lancer?
Love your videos, I got so much better since i started racing... well mostly togue racing. Would love to see you in agame and firsthand witness your amazing driving. You should do a racing stream were you invite random viewers. :D Would love to race with you. (Although i would probably lose you after the first couple corners XD)
Could you say a drift is a early power slid to the apex and them power slid out the end of the corner
You have convinced me to get assetto corsa
For dummies:
power slide is when it looks like a drift but there’s no tire marks on the road.
Drift is when it looks like a drift but there is tire marks on the road
could you do a comparison on which one is faster?
@@SSmallwood noted
2:33 my brayn will say, no gas pedal to enter the curve, turn the car... kick the gas pedal like if you are playing thrash metal.
Super good explaination ! Btw what's the map used in the video footages ? I'd like to try it
Was this a direct answer to what me and a few others got into about on your comment section not too long ago? 😂 Because i swear this answered every angle perfectly i agree with everything said here, this video was VERY needed to settle disputes everywhere I pray this enlightens everyone who needs it 🤣 i will be linking many people this video.
The only thing i would've added (this could be another video entirely), that each method here can be more desirable depending on the car at hand to actually achieve faster lap times, and how cars with certain dimensions, power, and drivetrian are more akin to one particular technique than others also depending on the track at hand.
so ironic that he hearted each and every single comment in this vide's comment section except yours.
@@AlFredo-sx2yy each and every single huh…
My only issue with this is that these terms won't work when there's no corner. I feel a drift is just a held power slide regardless of where you start. It's like catching a wave vs just standing up for a second
It might help if you just know that all powerslides are drifts but not all drifts are powerslides. You can drift without powersliding by using lift off oversteer or scandinavian flick. Those aren’t powerslides
For rally drivers did powerslide/drift?
Need the song in the beginning!
i always tought that drifting is when you rotate the car on the corner and powerslide is when you slide the 4 wheels sideways
It is, but fan boys think you when u do a line u want its power sliding, correct me if im wrong, but if i was to tandem i wouldnt with that so called drift on the inside and ugly, i would drift with the power slider clean nice middle ;)
A drift is still different from drifting, though, primarily because drifting involves more than one corner
I disagree. Power slide is one of the drifting techniques, not a separate body.
2:56 me: powersliding with peugeot 206 in nfs underground 2 a lot if times and listening to this: am i a joke to you
What happened to your website?
Bottomline: If you ain’t ripping, you ain’t drifting.
I would recommend learn powerslide for beginners then little apply drift style 😊😊😊
Thanks for clarification
Mr.Incredible be like: DRIFT IS DRIFT
*Me in my stock fwd Honda Accord*
so you're saying... there's a chance?
can you tag the downloads for the cars and maps you use??
I love how the wheels go off the kerb but nothing happens to the car.
One of the most satisfying cornering methods for sure!
nice video
Yeah, I hate to see when people says AWD is powersliding and it makes question "so are you denying the yaw effect in rally that helps AWD to drift and thinking it's powerslide?"
people who's yelling powerslide isn't a drift is pretty much a cod quickscopers yelling a sniper sitting in one spot or dragscoping a "HaRdScoPiNg"
As i thought already, you have to be sideways before the corner for me to call it drift, i wasn’t that wrong ahah
Links to the ac mods pleaseeeee
What is that Soundtrack ? i need it
2:20 had me like 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 deadass
how do you get ac like this
Powersliding is why I only like old race cars and street cars in Assetto and PCars 2. Can't slide on GT3
nice 1 dude
Mario Kart originally had power sliding instead of drifting, I preferred it honestly
I asked for this in a comment 😂😂😂
0:55 i would call it a slide by myself
I don’t think an inertia drift and a Scandinavian flick are the same thing. I think inertia drift is more like transitioning when drifting. It’s when you quickly switch from drifting one way to drifting another way
That's just called a transition!
@@TSRB I think it’s called both. Inertial drift is initial d’s name for it. That’s how it’s used in the show. You can see them doing Scandinavian flicks like it’s nothing but freak out when the 86 transitions because doing that in such a tight space is much harder.
@@pchris nah people freaked out cuz they dont main akina, takumi driven it for over a thousand days on akina so he knows that you can powerslide the high speed corner to scandi flick the next. probably every good racer in initial d got the skills to transition
@@justkev1044 A transition is more impressive to me than a scandi flick though so I'd think it would add to that fact. Plus it's a TV show and while I'm sure both transitions _and_ scandi flicks are supposed to be old news to most of these characters, at least by the end of the show anyway, but their reactions might be played up as this is a new tool to the viewer who might only be just getting into racing and cars in general (like I was the first watch-through) I can't really imagine a scandi flick being very impressive. Even I can do them in Assetto Corsa. What I can't do is transition without over-shooting and spinning out or hitting something so to do so in such a tight space would be impressive to outsiders new to the course who would go "damn ok so we're pulling out all the stops and this is where you do it I guess". I think a transition better fits your description.
@@pchris I agree
Personally ff or fwd is not drifting but sliding since you are controlling the angle by your handbrake and not by your rear wheel drive
what if you drift the whole corner? is that called drifting and powersliding
So settle an argument for me please, is it possible to drift an automatic car? Or is that just considered a power slide?
Thank you soo much! i once got kicked from a GT5 lobby for drifting a Evo6 TME. host got mad saying saying AWDs can't drift and when i asked him about, instead of a response he just kicked me. misinformed ppl are misinformed
Yes power drifting looks great.
3:15 or something something FLiCK, I don’t remember…
I've been power driftin all wrong then.
Wait.....when drifting you need to countersteer
But do power sliding need countersteer?
Unless you want to spin around in little circles?
Yes.
I don't see why it's so hard to differentiate between them...
power slide is more about speed, drift is more about style, more than just a corner, it's not the same.
Je vais expliquer ce que moi je voit :
1er drift, appel contre appel, sa consiste a tourner aux sans opposer du virage, pour ensuite tourner dans le sans du virage, et ainsi faire balancer le poids de la voiture, et ainsi que la voiture parte d'elle même en drift, technique utiliser en propulsion, mais aussi en 4WD, ce drift est aussi appeler drift d'inertie (inertial drift en anglais)
2em drift, avec la supra, pour moi c'est du powerslide, il roule normal pui la voiture chasse d'un coup, donc le drift est crée avec une forte accélération, pour faire sa il faux une bonne puissance, en fonction du poids de la voiture, mais globalement c'est l'accélérateur qui en enfoncer un cour instant très fort, ou a fond, pour que l’arrière se mette a glisser de lui même.
Mais donc celons toi, avant le sommet c'est du drift, et a partir du sommet c'est du powerslide, et tu fais quoi si dans tous les cas tu démarre la glisse avant le sommet ? c'est alors toujours du drift ?Ou aux contraire si tu démarre toujours le drift aux sommet c'est alors toujours du powerslide ? Donc y a en fais aucune différence entre powerslide et drift !!! Du moins celons t'est dire.
Mois ce que j'en panse, le powerslide, c'est du drift amorcer avec la puissance brut de la voiture, et le drift, ben sa reprend en fais tout un ta de technique pour amorcer le drift, qui seront utiliser en fonction de la transmission de celle ci, le powerslide est une des technique de drift, pour amorcer le drift, le frein a main est une autre technique pour amorcer le drift, l'appel contre appel en est encore une autre, la technique de l'embrayage en est une autre, tous sa reviens a faire du drift !
L’amorçage du drift dépens du conducteur, mais aussi de la transmission de la voiture, on amorce pas un drift de la même façon, si on a une traction, une propulsion, ou une 4WD, bien que la technique du frein a main puisse être utiliser sur les 3 type de transmission, c'est pas le cas du powerslide par exemple, qui lui demande de la puissance, mais aussi une propulsion ou une 4WD, il ne fonctionnera pas sur une traction !
De même pour la vitesse, on entre pas de la même façon avec une traction, que une propulsion, ou une 4WD, une traction glissera plus facilement avec une survitesse, une propulsion na pas besoin de survitesse pour glisser, et une 4WD sa vas d’épandre de votre façon de drifter !
Généralement en traction on arrive plus vite que en propu et en 4WD, pour justement que l’arrière se délaisse du poids, qui de toute façon est bien plus importent a l'avant, la sur vitesse fera perdre l'adhérence des pneu arrière, car il auront trop peut de poids pour tenir la voiture bien droite, et donc l’arrière qui est le plus léger partira en crabe.
Avec une propulsion, y a plusieurs technique, mais bien souvent on arrive en sous vitesse, on tourne dans le sans du virage et on accélère très fort, pour faire perdre l'adhérence de l’arrière, ce qui est pour moi, le pewerslide, il faux une puissance suffisente pour le faire, une propulsion de 130 Ch n'y arrivera pas, car pas asser puissante, et donc elle seront incapable de provoquer la glisse avec la puissance, par contre comme la Trueno dans la vidéo, certes pas puissante, un appel contre appel la fera glisser, malgré le peut de puissance, pour l'appel contre appel, pour un virage a gauche, on tourner a droite, pour que le poids se mette a gauche, ensuite on tourne a gauche pour balancer le poids a droite, ce qui a pour effet de faire perdre l'adhérance aux pneu arrière, on a plus qua contrebraquer et accélérer pour garder la glisse tous le long du virage.
Pour les 4WD bien souvent, on arrive a allure modérer, on tourne dans le sans du virage, on accélérer a fon, se qui fais perdre l’adhérence a l’arrière, et on dose la direction pour garder la glisse dans le virage, les 4WD demande un angle plus prononcer que des propulsion, car l'avant veut replacer la voiture, mais l’arrière veut faire glisser la voiture, donc si on contrebraque la voiture aura tendance a ce replacer d'elle même, empêchant la glisse d’être préserver, si on laisse les roue droite, la glisse se préserve toute seul, car y a équilibre entre l’arrière qui veut faire glisser, et l'avant qui veut ramener la voiture, pour augmenter l'angle il suffit de tourner dans le sans du virage, pour le diminuer de tourner dans le sans opposer aux virage, pour le maintenir de garder les roue droite comme si on étais en ligne droite !
Oh I can assure you that you can powerslide a FWD ;D
I thought drift was voluntarily made by the driver and powerslide was just letting the car lose rear grip by itself tho
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i don't categorize AWD sliding as drifting simply because the technique is completely different. What will work in a RWD simply wont work in an AWD car. When i hear the word "drifting" i associate that word with specific techniques. Your definition of "drifting" is far too general. As i said AWD and RWD sliding are two completely separate skills, with this in mind i think labeling them as the same thing is simply incorrect. I see a lot of people compare Ken block to FD drivers or drifters in general and it makes me cringe every time. its disappointing that drifting is so misunderstood, even within the car/motorsports community.
This.
Your definition of drift is just far too specific. A drift is a controlled slide before the apex and onwards. Just because there are different techniques requored for different drivetrains, doesn't mean they can't be called the same thing. No need to complicate the matter
@@r3uvsgaming this is not his definition. Look into the rulebook of any "Drift" competition on earth like Formula Drift, Formula Drift Japan, D1GP, DMEC, RDS, or, non other than the FIA International Drift cup. They all require a rear wheel drive car.
@@hayeduce I've seen FWD drifting competitions. They aren't any less valid. The big competitions might only have a RWD class because RWD is subjectively the most entertaining and maybe requires the most skill, but these major competitions not having AWD or FWD divisions doesn't mean that drifting is exclusive to RWD.
@@harbingerofwarx995 just out of curiosity, what do you have to do to win an FWD competition, how is it judged? Im sure its not a tandem comp, cuz just pulling a slide is very inconsistent and only really possible in certain circumstances, let alone slide in a tandem. And you only mention fwd, without any comp names, and no mention of awd. Look, im not saying these drivetrains cant SLIDE. They all slide. But the technique required is different. And imo the RWD technique is what true drifting is. And i've only ever seen RWD tandems. And i mentioned FIA for a reason. Since 2021 FIA recognizes drifting as a legit form of motorsport, thats why they organized their first official event. And it was RWD only.
I think powerslide is all wheels sliding and drifting in just the rear end buuuuutt
I don't know really
Si no me equivoco se llama powerslide, corrijan ustedes
power sliding looks better
Looks like both are really hard to execute tho