Yah that’s one downside of cadence sensor bikes. They pretty much all have delays, some more than others. For me it’s most noticeable when I get going from a stop. But once I’m moving I don’t really notice it.
Purchased the Engwe L20 2.0 a week ago as my first e bike and couldn’t be happier mainly because of the power, price, longer range and features. That being said, I took my buddy to a bike shop yesterday to browse for his first e bike and we rode an Engwe Pro (folding) which has hydraulic brakes as I was quite impressed with the easier feel of the brakes…nothing wrong with my bike's brakes but I did feel a difference. The pro is a beautiful bike, I even like the style better but it’s heavier, less battery power and more expensive. The Engwe 2.0 is just right for the price for me, it does just about everything great and when I remove the battery before putting it in the car, I can handle the lift weight. Nice review!
I have just found your channel whilst researching eBikes, and have found your reviews really helpful 👍 There have been quite a lot of scary reports about some 'cheaper' Chinese made eBikes having battery problems, with some even catching fire. So manufacturers are increasingly advertising when they use Samsung or Panasonic batteries (over here in the UK 🇬🇧). Do you know what batteries are used in both of these reviewed models ? Also what is the likely expected life cycle of the battery packs, and do you expect it to be easy to source replacements when needed in the future ? Sadly the 52V Engwe L20 v2 is not (yet) available over here in the UK, but there is a 48V 75Nm Engwe L20 'Boost' model due out over next month which I am very interested in. Many thanks again for your great reviews - and having visited Phoenix a couple of times, it takes real dedication cycling around for over 4 hours in that heat to do a range test. Kudos...👍
Thank you 😊! Yah this summer heat is brutal. I can’t wait for winter haha. So generally speaking, electric bike fires are quite rare. When they do happen though, they make the news. A lot of what I’ve found after doing some research is that many fires are caused by people using the wrong charger for their bikes/scooters. Some folks use third party chargers to charge their batteries faster. If they try and charge faster than the battery is designed for, things can get out of control quickly. That’s why they always say to only charge with the manufacturer provided charger. Other issues I’ve seen come from people modifying their bikes without the proper electrical know how. Some other cases come from people keeping damaged batteries around. I haven’t looked into the cells that each of the companies uses. They also don’t advertise them. The Lectric model in the video is now UL certified, meaning the bike and battery had to go through rigorous testing to ensure it meets certain standards for safety. With that being said, Lectric didn’t have UL certification at the time I purchased the XP 3.0. Engwe doesn’t have UL certification currently, but it may be something they offer in the future. But again, even if a battery is UL certified, accidents can still happen. Plus, using the wrong charger has the same effect on UL and non-UL alike. As for lifecycle, you can generally expect anywhere from 500-1000 charge cycles. Batteries for both of these bikes are available from their respective manufacturers. Pretty much all e-bikes come with safety documentation for their lithium ion batteries as well as do’s and don’ts. I suggest reading it thoroughly (many people don’t).
Is it actually possible to maintain speeds under 10mph on the new xp 3.0 with PWR? I have the old speed governed one but I'm curious about how this new one works. I have a friend who wants to buy an xp 3.0 and he test drove my non PWR one but I'm afraid this new one would be difficult to maintain lower speeds.
Hey! So it is possible to maintain less than 10mph in PAS 1. In the right gear it’s very comfortable. PAS 2 will get you to 15 and is really comfortable at that speed as well. Their PWR system helps smooth out the transitions between PAS levels as well as acceleration within a given PAS level.
I wish the motor would kick in as soon as you start pedaling on the engwe
Yah that’s one downside of cadence sensor bikes. They pretty much all have delays, some more than others. For me it’s most noticeable when I get going from a stop. But once I’m moving I don’t really notice it.
Purchased the Engwe L20 2.0 a week ago as my first e bike and couldn’t be happier mainly because of the power, price, longer range and features. That being said, I took my buddy to a bike shop yesterday to browse for his first e bike and we rode an Engwe Pro (folding) which has hydraulic brakes as I was quite impressed with the easier feel of the brakes…nothing wrong with my bike's brakes but I did feel a difference. The pro is a beautiful bike, I even like the style better but it’s heavier, less battery power and more expensive. The Engwe 2.0 is just right for the price for me, it does just about everything great and when I remove the battery before putting it in the car, I can handle the lift weight. Nice review!
Yah the Engwe is a solid bike overall. And you really can’t beat the price. I got 49 miles in a range test with it which was crazy lol.
I have just found your channel whilst researching eBikes, and have found your reviews really helpful 👍
There have been quite a lot of scary reports about some 'cheaper' Chinese made eBikes having battery problems, with some even catching fire. So manufacturers are increasingly advertising when they use Samsung or Panasonic batteries (over here in the UK 🇬🇧).
Do you know what batteries are used in both of these reviewed models ?
Also what is the likely expected life cycle of the battery packs, and do you expect it to be easy to source replacements when needed in the future ?
Sadly the 52V Engwe L20 v2 is not (yet) available over here in the UK, but there is a 48V 75Nm Engwe L20 'Boost' model due out over next month which I am very interested in.
Many thanks again for your great reviews - and having visited Phoenix a couple of times, it takes real dedication cycling around for over 4 hours in that heat to do a range test. Kudos...👍
Thank you 😊! Yah this summer heat is brutal. I can’t wait for winter haha.
So generally speaking, electric bike fires are quite rare. When they do happen though, they make the news. A lot of what I’ve found after doing some research is that many fires are caused by people using the wrong charger for their bikes/scooters. Some folks use third party chargers to charge their batteries faster. If they try and charge faster than the battery is designed for, things can get out of control quickly. That’s why they always say to only charge with the manufacturer provided charger.
Other issues I’ve seen come from people modifying their bikes without the proper electrical know how. Some other cases come from people keeping damaged batteries around.
I haven’t looked into the cells that each of the companies uses. They also don’t advertise them. The Lectric model in the video is now UL certified, meaning the bike and battery had to go through rigorous testing to ensure it meets certain standards for safety. With that being said, Lectric didn’t have UL certification at the time I purchased the XP 3.0.
Engwe doesn’t have UL certification currently, but it may be something they offer in the future. But again, even if a battery is UL certified, accidents can still happen. Plus, using the wrong charger has the same effect on UL and non-UL alike.
As for lifecycle, you can generally expect anywhere from 500-1000 charge cycles. Batteries for both of these bikes are available from their respective manufacturers.
Pretty much all e-bikes come with safety documentation for their lithium ion batteries as well as do’s and don’ts. I suggest reading it thoroughly (many people don’t).
@@tomsgadgetgarage Thanks for taking the time to give such a thorough and helpful reply Tom - much appreciated 👍 ATB
Is it actually possible to maintain speeds under 10mph on the new xp 3.0 with PWR? I have the old speed governed one but I'm curious about how this new one works. I have a friend who wants to buy an xp 3.0 and he test drove my non PWR one but I'm afraid this new one would be difficult to maintain lower speeds.
Hey! So it is possible to maintain less than 10mph in PAS 1. In the right gear it’s very comfortable. PAS 2 will get you to 15 and is really comfortable at that speed as well. Their PWR system helps smooth out the transitions between PAS levels as well as acceleration within a given PAS level.
Great information, thanks. Both bikes definitely have pros and cons
Thank you! Yah both are great options, just depends on what a rider prioritizes as their must haves.