Impressed with that dog at 1:01. Tom tightened that leash, the dog moved into him as if to say, “oh, I’m not close enough? Ok!. Is this better?”. This is where I hope to get with my dog. Currently, there is very little connection between us when he’s on a leash unless there are no distractions.
Great stuff again. When I learned years ago to start going on my own walk and let my dogs sort out their place in it, instead of watching them, life got way better. Now I can walk my three, off lease, and just say “this way” and the whole pack changes direction. Thomas, you’re doing great teaching people to better understand, communicate with, and be fair to their dogs. Keep it up.
@@Rachel-mq4yj thanks and he is 6 years old any pulls so hard and I can't handle him no more like that just tore my rotator cuff I got a labrum tear and a strained bicep and tendonitis do you think keepin him on a prong collar for a few months I can go by and using my regular dog collar and he won't pull or am I going to keep having to use a prong to keep him from pulling collar
R-Luv Bham I’m not a professional, so I can’t really help you out. I’d advise seeking out a professional trainer who trains similarly to Tom in this video. The prong should not be on all the time. Only put the prong on during training sessions and for walks. I’ve seen some dogs eventually get weened off the prong collar so that they can wear a regular flat collar. But honestly, every dog is different and the time it takes for them to learn and rehabilitate (if they’re a fearful, reactive dog) varies depending on the dog. It takes a lot of training, dedication and consistency. Unfortunately, there’s no quick fix. I’m sorry you’ve been injured so many times. Sounds like you need to seek a professional trainer soon. I know many are doing virtual appointments during this time, so that might be something to look into.
How would you determine when you no longer need the prong collar? By trying a walk with the flat collar after you no longer need to correct using the prong collar ?
Yep. You could even add in a verbal marker before you correct with the prong, then if something happens on flat you can use that marker with a pop of the flat collar, which might be enough for your dog.
I have tried the harness, halti head collar and nylon collar on my beagle. The issue I have is her smelling and pulling when she finds a scent to follow. Her ears turn off when we walking. Will a prong collar give me more control? I feel like we have entered a downward spiral because I'm not walking her because of the pulling and now she is destructive. Love your video's.
You're probably rewarding the pulling by continuing to walk while she's doing it. If she's pulling, you put on the brakes instantly and /don't move/ until she puts some slack in the leash. Reward that by immediately walking forward. You can also choose to turn and walk the other direction when she pulls, so that once again she doesn't get to where she wants to go. It's mind-numbing at first, but it does work. In my opinion, a prong is better for a dog that's too strong for you with those methods or one that tends to try to lunge. A beagle really doesn't need it in general.
I’ve read that letting your dog sniff is good for them but of course too much sniffing does not make for a good walk . What is your opinion on this and if my dog wanted to sniff a bit and then I wanted him to stop and continue walk- how would I use prong collar to help and or of course what commands do you use?
I feel like I've watched Tom talk about something similar to this. I think the basic idea is you should have clear boundaries with your dog about when they should be working and when they're free. If you've told the dog to heal then they shouldn't break away from you. Tom uses the "break" command to let the dog free and they can sniff as much as they want.
My dog is pit/collie we think, and very high adrenaline/fear aggression sometimes. Her adrenaline is always on when she is outside, would u use a prong on this type of a dog. Strong prey drive, but walks fairly well in heel if no dogs around.
@@maashrurgazi7515 Thanks for your reply, I did use the prong along with the e-collar for quite some time. To no avail, we ended up having to put her down, sadly she came to us as an emotional wreck. Worked with her for over 3 years. It was tough.
'Herm Sprenger' - it will not fail you. BTW, make sure you learn how to effectively use it, while a prong collar has the potential for being a wonderful tool, it can also cause problems if used incorrectly - just like any other tool. Effective use is not as easy as it may sound. Find a trainer that isn't brainwashed by "positive only training" and employ their help. - Proud owner of a well behaved, stupid happy, high-drive GSD XD .
Thank you for the advice! I’ve been doing a lot of research because my 1.5 year old GSD is leash reactive and we live in Chicago in a neighborhood with a ton of dogs. She is amazing in every way off leash so I want to be really sure I know how to use one correctly first
You can try Dr.Trainer dog training collar, It has Auto Retractable Feature, will not cause irritation to your dog's neck. Advanced recordable voice feature. Say goodbye to the traditional beep sound. Customize your command by recording your own voice
Can anybody tell me if herm sprenger prong collar with buckle and one ring gives less control on dog than the classic one? I want to buy one for my gs and i can't decide between those 2
The owners tension is going right down that leash to her dog. You answered questions I had without having anything to do with the collar ty! I have a 5 month old puppy up for adoption. Click on my page if you are interested. He can be shipped.
I have a 3 month old 30 lb Anatolian Shep and and trying to teach her to heel will little success, I got one of those prong collars but am worried she may be too young and im expecting too much from her. Tried collar and when she pulls hard she will whimper as its pinching her. Is she too young and im expecting too much to soon? Would love to have a dog heel without a leash. Thanks.
I'm having a lot of trouble with my catahoula. He's aggressive with other dogs. He but a 15 lb dog and sent it to the hospital. My Catahoula and my other dog have gotten into fights. I adopted him and was told he was great with other dogs. He also reacts aggressively with people when we're walking! When it's dark or when the person sees him and acts scared just seeing him - mostly men. Usually he's great with people and kids. I have no experience with prong collars or other tools. My 2 dogs get along great 99% of the time. Is there someone like you in Tampa bay that can help methat you'd recommend?
I have a similar situation where my 2 year old female dog is fear aggressive toward humans and dogs (over the top kind). Actually my dog looks exactly like the one in this video (i believe it is an American dingo mix). I recommend you watch all of Thomas Davis's videos. I learned a lot and we are already making progress. Bottom line is that you need to establish boundary and authority and establish yourself as a leader (but not with punishment, only discipline/correct the behavior as it happens (not afterwards, that's punishment). Start from there you'll get progress quickly. Eventually you might need use a local dog trainer who has many balanced dogs for your dog to quickly acclimate to other dogs and to learn socialization with/from. But you can do a lot with just walking and training by yourself and by meeting people and dogs during the walks. Good luck! Watch all his videos. I read and researched a lot on how to dealing dog fear aggression - I believe the principle that Thomas uses makes more sense than the click training/shaping behavior theory. This is more intuitive and logical.
Thomas, I love your video! I have some questions about using prong collars though: I have a dog that displays fear aggression with people (with dogs as well). Some times, toward certain people, she slows down/freezes and turn and stare. My question is: should I gently pull the prong before she freezes up? I felt she is building up tension and her fear is controlling her. Should I wait until she snaps and then correct, or should I "burst the bubble"? Another question is when we walk past at an area where another dog just stayed a little while, she would frantically sniff around that area. Should we correct the impulsive sniffing in general? I feel by sniffing frantically she is acting on her fear and her mental state switches from the calmer state that she was previously in. Thanks so much!
First off fear is not a behavior, and negative reinforcement is not likely to correct it. The behavior that you need to be addressing is your dogs desire to take the lead. She is trying to decide if the person/dog is safe to approach. That is not her job. That is your job. Her only job is to follow your lead. When you notice her focus moving from you to the person/dog/smell give her the correction immediately and reset her focus on you.
Isn't it kind of confusing for the dog to be walked on "both sides" in this situation? The owner walks it on her right side. You walk it on your left side (so do I). Thoughts?
flytec eh, if you watch any of my other videos I’m really big on staying consistent. I cut out the part where the owner says “I always walk her on the right is that okay”. It’s her first session with me so I let it go for now.
I take dogs with special needs do to trama and neglect. Im learning with each dog.The one I have right now, I don't have all the puzzle pieces because the first three months of his life are unknown. What I do know is he was the runt. He was skin and bones. He dug out bugs from the ground to survive. He was in a pack of dogs living on the street. He is the worst case of fear based reactions I've come across in 30 yrs of doing this work. I've gained his trust but we have a long way to go. I have a new rescue 5 month old puppy too. The new puppy was taken in before he became tramatized. Vigilance the first dog I mentioned, is over correcting the new puppy. I learned that from you. Things I assume from what I feel is he was severely abused by a woman. I was told by the mayor that he was part of a meth house that let their dogs run the streets. Trama is this dogs middle name. I looks as if he his face was smashed in at some point because his face is different on both sides. Plus his tail was broken. I love this dog. I hope I'm good for him. He looks like he might have mange. He's going to the vet tomorrow. It wouldn't surprise me if he has autoimmune deficiency. He sleeps with me and is my constant companion.
Ikr. You are so right and wise❤️❤️he is so dumb no offense😂😂but yeah especially when he pulls it feels stinging the people who created them don't have brains 🧠 oh and I you want a channel there's its me or the dog and she is VERY ❤️ good with dogs and no she doesn't use prong collars
@@Celebornlotr Theres a difference between pressure and pain. You're not stabbing the dog, its divided points of pressure to let the dog know that its doing something that its not supposed to.
Owners: I don't want my dog to get hurt. Noone: Not even a single soul : Thomas davis: don't worry I'm not gonna hurt your dog. I don't harm dogs Also Thomas Davis : *puts prong collar on dog* Owner:👁️👄👁️ Dog : get that thing off me right now Victoria Stillwell from its me or the dog: *throws prong collar in trash.* If Victoria and Thomas met: Victoria: *slaps Thomas, throws all prong collar away and takes his dogs aswell* Thomas : ouch that hurt Never use prong collars on your dogs..
Impressed with that dog at 1:01. Tom tightened that leash, the dog moved into him as if to say, “oh, I’m not close enough? Ok!. Is this better?”. This is where I hope to get with my dog. Currently, there is very little connection between us when he’s on a leash unless there are no distractions.
Great stuff again. When I learned years ago to start going on my own walk and let my dogs sort out their place in it, instead of watching them, life got way better. Now I can walk my three, off lease, and just say “this way” and the whole pack changes direction. Thomas, you’re doing great teaching people to better understand, communicate with, and be fair to their dogs. Keep it up.
md8641 thanks so much!
I love how you communicate with the lady! Simplify without dumbing down and straight without making her feel dumb!
This really shows how differently dogs react to the handlers energy. Wit you Tom the dog had a leader and felt safe. Great job. Thank you : )
Laura's Life Dog Training & Dog Vlogs as always thank you
@@tomdavisofficial can I leave the prong collar on all day and all night
@@r-luvbham6608 I know you didn't ask me -- but no. You shouldn't leave the prong collar on all day and night. Could be a safety hazard
@@Rachel-mq4yj thanks and he is 6 years old any pulls so hard and I can't handle him no more like that just tore my rotator cuff I got a labrum tear and a strained bicep and tendonitis do you think keepin him on a prong collar for a few months I can go by and using my regular dog collar and he won't pull or am I going to keep having to use a prong to keep him from pulling collar
R-Luv Bham I’m not a professional, so I can’t really help you out. I’d advise seeking out a professional trainer who trains similarly to Tom in this video. The prong should not be on all the time. Only put the prong on during training sessions and for walks. I’ve seen some dogs eventually get weened off the prong collar so that they can wear a regular flat collar. But honestly, every dog is different and the time it takes for them to learn and rehabilitate (if they’re a fearful, reactive dog) varies depending on the dog. It takes a lot of training, dedication and consistency. Unfortunately, there’s no quick fix.
I’m sorry you’ve been injured so many times. Sounds like you need to seek a professional trainer soon. I know many are doing virtual appointments during this time, so that might be something to look into.
I have a 7 month old male Cane Corso. I just ordered a Herm Sprenger chrome prong with quick snap buckle.. your videos are very helpful thank you
I have a 7 month Corso too and he pulls like there's no tomorrow I can barely handle him
Just got the Dr.Trainer dog training collar, wonderful!
You're a game changer! Thank you! 🙏❤🐶
How would you determine when you no longer need the prong collar? By trying a walk with the flat collar after you no longer need to correct using the prong collar ?
Yep. You could even add in a verbal marker before you correct with the prong, then if something happens on flat you can use that marker with a pop of the flat collar, which might be enough for your dog.
Good info. Thanks for posting this.
Do you use a different command for focused heal?
I have tried the harness, halti head collar and nylon collar on my beagle. The issue I have is her smelling and pulling when she finds a scent to follow. Her ears turn off when we walking. Will a prong collar give me more control? I feel like we have entered a downward spiral because I'm not walking her because of the pulling and now she is destructive. Love your video's.
Yes
You're probably rewarding the pulling by continuing to walk while she's doing it. If she's pulling, you put on the brakes instantly and /don't move/ until she puts some slack in the leash. Reward that by immediately walking forward. You can also choose to turn and walk the other direction when she pulls, so that once again she doesn't get to where she wants to go. It's mind-numbing at first, but it does work. In my opinion, a prong is better for a dog that's too strong for you with those methods or one that tends to try to lunge. A beagle really doesn't need it in general.
I’ve read that letting your dog sniff is good for them but of course too much sniffing does not make for a good walk . What is your opinion on this and if my dog wanted to sniff a bit and then I wanted him to stop and continue walk- how would I use prong collar to help and or of course what commands do you use?
I feel like I've watched Tom talk about something similar to this. I think the basic idea is you should have clear boundaries with your dog about when they should be working and when they're free. If you've told the dog to heal then they shouldn't break away from you. Tom uses the "break" command to let the dog free and they can sniff as much as they want.
My dog is pit/collie we think, and very high adrenaline/fear aggression sometimes. Her adrenaline is always on when she is outside, would u use a prong on this type of a dog. Strong prey drive, but walks fairly well in heel if no dogs around.
Sounds like a dog that will likely bite another dog, prong can help u correct that before it escalated
@@maashrurgazi7515 Thanks for your reply, I did use the prong along with the e-collar for quite some time. To no avail, we ended up having to put her down, sadly she came to us as an emotional wreck. Worked with her for over 3 years. It was tough.
What brand prong collar do you recommend?
'Herm Sprenger' - it will not fail you. BTW, make sure you learn how to effectively use it, while a prong collar has the potential for being a wonderful tool, it can also cause problems if used incorrectly - just like any other tool.
Effective use is not as easy as it may sound. Find a trainer that isn't brainwashed by "positive only training" and employ their help.
- Proud owner of a well behaved, stupid happy, high-drive GSD XD
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Thank you for the advice! I’ve been doing a lot of research because my 1.5 year old GSD is leash reactive and we live in Chicago in a neighborhood with a ton of dogs. She is amazing in every way off leash so I want to be really sure I know how to use one correctly first
You can try Dr.Trainer dog training collar, It has Auto Retractable Feature, will not cause irritation to your dog's neck. Advanced recordable voice feature. Say goodbye to the traditional beep sound. Customize your command by recording your own voice
Can I use a prong collar on my blind dog? We usually walk with leash pressure because that is how I guide him.
Can you do a video on leash biting?
Can anybody tell me if herm sprenger prong collar with buckle and one ring gives less control on dog than the classic one? I want to buy one for my gs and i can't decide between those 2
The owners tension is going right down that leash to her dog. You answered questions I had without having anything to do with the collar ty! I have a 5 month old puppy up for adoption. Click on my page if you are interested. He can be shipped.
I have a 3 month old 30 lb Anatolian Shep and and trying to teach her to heel will little success, I got one of those prong collars but am worried she may be too young and im expecting too much from her. Tried collar and when she pulls hard she will whimper as its pinching her.
Is she too young and im expecting too much to soon? Would love to have a dog heel without a leash.
Thanks.
Far too young you should wait till about 6 or 7 months
What dog age to train using a prong collar?
I'm having a lot of trouble with my catahoula. He's aggressive with other dogs. He but a 15 lb dog and sent it to the hospital. My Catahoula and my other dog have gotten into fights. I adopted him and was told he was great with other dogs. He also reacts aggressively with people when we're walking! When it's dark or when the person sees him and acts scared just seeing him - mostly men. Usually he's great with people and kids. I have no experience with prong collars or other tools.
My 2 dogs get along great 99% of the time.
Is there someone like you in Tampa bay that can help methat you'd recommend?
I'm trying to train him to like wearing a muzzle. He'll wear it for a minute then try to pull out off.
I have a similar situation where my 2 year old female dog is fear aggressive toward humans and dogs (over the top kind). Actually my dog looks exactly like the one in this video (i believe it is an American dingo mix). I recommend you watch all of Thomas Davis's videos. I learned a lot and we are already making progress. Bottom line is that you need to establish boundary and authority and establish yourself as a leader (but not with punishment, only discipline/correct the behavior as it happens (not afterwards, that's punishment). Start from there you'll get progress quickly. Eventually you might need use a local dog trainer who has many balanced dogs for your dog to quickly acclimate to other dogs and to learn socialization with/from. But you can do a lot with just walking and training by yourself and by meeting people and dogs during the walks. Good luck!
Watch all his videos. I read and researched a lot on how to dealing dog fear aggression - I believe the principle that Thomas uses makes more sense than the click training/shaping behavior theory. This is more intuitive and logical.
Thomas, I love your video! I have some questions about using prong collars though:
I have a dog that displays fear aggression with people (with dogs as well). Some times, toward certain people, she slows down/freezes and turn and stare. My question is: should I gently pull the prong before she freezes up? I felt she is building up tension and her fear is controlling her. Should I wait until she snaps and then correct, or should I "burst the bubble"?
Another question is when we walk past at an area where another dog just stayed a little while, she would frantically sniff around that area. Should we correct the impulsive sniffing in general? I feel by sniffing frantically she is acting on her fear and her mental state switches from the calmer state that she was previously in.
Thanks so much!
First off fear is not a behavior, and negative reinforcement is not likely to correct it. The behavior that you need to be addressing is your dogs desire to take the lead. She is trying to decide if the person/dog is safe to approach. That is not her job. That is your job. Her only job is to follow your lead. When you notice her focus moving from you to the person/dog/smell give her the correction immediately and reset her focus on you.
Isn't it kind of confusing for the dog to be walked on "both sides" in this situation?
The owner walks it on her right side.
You walk it on your left side (so do I).
Thoughts?
flytec eh, if you watch any of my other videos I’m really big on staying consistent. I cut out the part where the owner says “I always walk her on the right is that okay”. It’s her first session with me so I let it go for now.
flytec a
What about a non food motivated fearful dog?
I take dogs with special needs do to trama and neglect. Im learning with each dog.The one I have right now, I don't have all the puzzle pieces because the first three months of his life are unknown. What I do know is he was the runt. He was skin and bones. He dug out bugs from the ground to survive. He was in a pack of dogs living on the street. He is the worst case of fear based reactions I've come across in 30 yrs of doing this work. I've gained his trust but we have a long way to go. I have a new rescue 5 month old puppy too. The new puppy was taken in before he became tramatized. Vigilance the first dog I mentioned, is over correcting the new puppy. I learned that from you. Things I assume from what I feel is he was severely abused by a woman. I was told by the mayor that he was part of a meth house that let their dogs run the streets. Trama is this dogs middle name. I looks as if he his face was smashed in at some point because his face is different on both sides. Plus his tail was broken. I love this dog. I hope I'm good for him. He looks like he might have mange. He's going to the vet tomorrow. It wouldn't surprise me if he has autoimmune deficiency. He sleeps with me and is my constant companion.
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Yall should try LED Dog Collars. Hit me up if yall wont one.
"prong collar doesn't hurt" am I supposed to believe this when it looks and feels like 11 or more knifes put all around a dog's neck?!!!!
Ikr. You are so right and wise❤️❤️he is so dumb no offense😂😂but yeah especially when he pulls it feels stinging the people who created them don't have brains 🧠 oh and I you want a channel there's its me or the dog and she is VERY ❤️ good with dogs and no she doesn't use prong collars
And here you go a like for you ❤️
@@Celebornlotr 😁😁😁thx for the channel
@@Celebornlotr thx
@@Celebornlotr Theres a difference between pressure and pain. You're not stabbing the dog, its divided points of pressure to let the dog know that its doing something that its not supposed to.
Owners: I don't want my dog to get hurt.
Noone:
Not even a single soul :
Thomas davis: don't worry I'm not gonna hurt your dog. I don't harm dogs
Also Thomas Davis : *puts prong collar on dog*
Owner:👁️👄👁️
Dog : get that thing off me right now
Victoria Stillwell from its me or the dog: *throws prong collar in trash.*
If Victoria and Thomas met: Victoria: *slaps Thomas, throws all prong collar away and takes his dogs aswell* Thomas : ouch that hurt
Never use prong collars on your dogs..
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THAT IS THE BEST COMMENT I'VE SEEN IN THE VIDEO🤣🤣🤣❤️😍
Im with you 💯%
Oh and what u wrote is actually so hilarious
Wait.... I wanna like ur comment