PRONG Collar Explained #1- How to Use a Prong Collar - Robert Cabral - Dog Training Video
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- This video is about understanding the pinch collar, also known as the prong or spike collar. This is an often misused and misunderstood tool. However, if used properly, it is a beneficial tool for some dogs. No tool works for all dogs so, as trainers & dog lovers, we must understand which tool works best for our dogs. Please watch this video to better understand the benefits and pitfalls of the pinch collar.
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I adopted a fully grown Great Dane that had never been trained. On leash she was so strong I could not hold her back! We enrolled in a dog training class so that I could learn what I needed to know along with the dog. We used a pinch collar properly. I only needed to use it for about three days of training. She figured it out very fast and learned not to pull. I never had to use the pinch collar again. She finished up so well trained that I could get her to obey hand signals off lead.
How did you start the training without pinch collar
@@jonathanzepeda9627 I never used a pinch collar before I started in the training class. The lady who ran the class did not want to let us participate, feeling that a Great Dane would be too difficult to deal with. However it worked out well. I was careful to use the pinch collar as instructed. Before training it was miserable. That dog was so strong pulling it felt like my arm was being pulled off. My wife could not walk her at all. After training it was wonderful.
My dog pulls lightly on our walks. When he is scared he pulls painfully hard. What worries me is that he's going to hurt himself again the next time he gets scared and yanks the leash attached to the pinch collar. By any chance do you or anyone reading this comment have any suggestions to prevent this again? Does he need a certain type of training to help reduce his fears? His fears seem to be random and oftentimes don't have a pattern.
@@derp8575 I have this same exact problem. He gets spooked easily and will bolt a few feet in one direction. He also pulls very hard when he sees other dogs and I just want to make sure sustained pressure with the prong collar won't hurt him.
Finally, I thought I was alone with all the "positive/no discipline" people out there these days. I used a prong collar on my 10 mo old during his surgery recovery because he had to stay indoors for 3 months and couldn't go on walks at all, which drove him crazy because he is very social. Every time I took him out to go to the bathroom he was absolutely uncontrollable on a regular leash because he was willing to literally die choking just to get to the dog park or some scent that caught his attention. The prong collar IMMEDIATELY made him completely controllable with just two fingers holding the leash. While the prong collar is not my first choice, for certain circumstances like that they are needed and a great tool when used properly. You can't always just give a dog a cookie, Victoria
Same, my lab/mastiff will choke herself out on a martingale, trying to get to the squirrel or rustle in the leaves. Prong collar has allowed me to give feedback with 2 fingers and just feels much finer and dialed in. Like Robert said, leash pressure training is also essential and I wouldn't recommend it to owners who haven't been educated on this
@@arrsee6516 Yes if you are not educated don't use this tool. Like if you can't control your own dog to heel. if there is a squirrel you can teach your dog to leave it, to look at you or even a recall if she gets away from you but prong collar is the easy option. I guess you are uneducated about those options LOL.
@@maxepad3918 I'm not too sure why you think those options are mutually exclusive of prong collars rather than mutually beneficial? Just another tool or technique and I practice those too. Can lure into a heel easily but have you tried to lure a distracted dog in drive?
THANK YOU so much Mr Cabral. I was in tears after using a pinch collar for the first time on my 16 month old collie. She's first generation working stock, very high prey and herding drive and a total night mare
Oops -in a busy street. We've been out 6 times now and she's been totally controllable, even with bicycles. It's been a real pleasure taking her out these last few days. My stress levels are now zero and so are hers. Thank you thank you thank you ☺️☺️☺️☺️
7 month old lab and a prong collar = gets to go every where now ! Mr. Cabral knows what he’s doing!!!!! Thank you sir;)
Thank you for doing what’s best for your dog!!!
Hey, what length do you have and what strength? The 2,25mm one, that Robert recommends? I red that it‘s only up to 20kg... should I go with the 3mm one?
Handsome Dude the size depends on the dog’s coat not how big the dog is. 2.25 will be good for most dogs unless they got thick coat then you can go up to 3.0 or 3.2
papuzka0 I have a labrador and ordered a 2.25 and it‘ll be delivered tomorrow. I hope I got it right 🤞🏿
@@papuzka0 According to Herms-Sprenger the size depends on the dog's weight. I bought a 3.2 (which is good up to 88 lbs according to their chart) for a 75 lb German Shepherd. I took two links out and its maybe just a tiny bit loose, since it doesn't stay right up under the ears (but it is close). Regardless, after two walks with it, the collar has transformed my dog- I don't even really have to make a correction now... maybe just one super-light "heel" correction at the start of the walk.
Looking forward to walk #3...
Anyone that has used a pinch collar properly will know that when you're dog hears it jingling they get so excited that its time to put it on and go out. I am sure that would not be the case if it was causing pain. Thanks Robert 👍🐶♥️
My GSDs know the collar and are ready for their walk. I've used Robert's training.
I have gone through several trainers who had the 100% positive philosophy - did nothing for my lab/rottie mix, other than teach him to be a treat hound. He was still trying to pull me down the street on our walks. Thankfully, I didn't give up and finally found a trainer who schooled me on the HS prong collar. An IMMEDIATE game changer! Love your channel - please keep it up. There are way too many uneducated dog owners out there!
Wow! Incredibly valuable video. My rescue ACD was textbook psycho, uncontrollable, a danger to herself, and all humans and dogs in her path. Hard to even count the number of people she's nipped in the last week during reactive frenzies (due to displaced aggression). FIVE MINUTES with a correctly fitted prong collar (thanks to this video) and she is heeling like on a TV show, no more snapping when I tell her "no," no more knocking me over, no more terrified looks from passers-by when they see her straining at her 'humane' martingale collar, growling, barking, and trying to escape and chase them. I wish I could add a thousand likes.
Thank you. I love your videos. As a trainer, my most common problem is the owner, not the dog. My first lesson is to leash train the human by putting the prong collar around their arm and tugging them around. Then we switch so they can tug on me. You would be amazed at how many times my arm is bruised from their harsh pulling. Once the human understands how to properly use the leash and collar, I start the dog training.
Laurie Cloonan love this. Have done it myself in workshops. Brilliant approach.
I put the collar on myself and gave it a good tug, it was unpleasant to say the least. I use a plastic spiked collar called the viper or some snake name, I hope it's ok.
Great tip- thanks!!
This is the ONLY tool that has worked for my full blown border collie. After watching your videos on how to use it I can take my dog anywhere now, which belive me used to be impossible horrible and fraught every time we went out the front door. She's 3 tomorrow and the most wonderful girl. Off lead she checks in, recall lovely, the works. Prong collar goes back on walking through the farmyard then off again once we're clear. The prong collar has been a miracle for both of us. A heartfelt thank you once again Robert xxx
thanks for giving your dog the chance!!!
Love your videos. I took my 4 month old lab puppy to a training class at our local petco. The trainer started out by immediately putting a pinch collar on her. Needless to say I immediately knew this trainer didnt know what she was doing. At 4 months old my puppy comes when called, sits, downs, shakes and gives a toy when ask. I am so happy I found your videos because it has made training a fun experience and we are seeing great results. Pinch collars do have a place in training but not when the puppy is already doing well with its training. Thanks for all you do!!!!
My Vet backed you up with telling me to get a pinch collar for my 17 month old rescued Malinois. I let her correct herself with the collar. I set the distance I want her away from me and let her "hang herself". She was damn near draggin me down, the next walk she was much easier. The Vet made sure it was sized correctly. And I need this because I am training her without balls or treats, the collar helps me shape her with way less effort and stress on her.
I love your vet! Far too few like that out there. Thank you.
I have a 6yr old staffy that I've adopted from a high kill shelter.
She is absolutely brilliant and listens to commands ect. She fantastic around people and adores kids but - As soon as she sees another animal particularly a dog she's is in kill mode and no amount of commands, treats ect will work.
If she see another dog I normally stay calm and turn the opposite direction so they're out of sight. Sometimes we resort to walk her at night so we can comfortably walk with her.
I would love to be able to be able to do this through the day without fuss. I know it is definitely something we owner are or are not doing that's contributing.
I am strongly considering this collar but not before I do my research on handling methods.
Never give up on our fur babies.
Love this! Thank you so much. For our working line Malinois we use just about every tool in the book to keep him progressing forward in his training. He went from being rejected by trainers left and right to now working full time with me in a warehouse and going to the store etc on a day to day basis.
Glad it was helpful!
Positive only training is for people that don't understand how to communicate with dogs. Leashed and Collars are communication devices not restrictive devices. Love this video!!
The backup connection is great!
It came off three times this weekend with our mini-bull terrier and I thought I just needed to keep spreading out the tines to keep it from coming apart.
We had a thick one with our standard bull terrier that worked fantastic and never came apart, so I was a bit flustered with the small one on our mini.
He responded great to the pinch collar this weekend at 6 months old, albeit with plenty of hilarious protests.
Eliminated pulling instantly!
Thanks for the tip to back it up as I had no idea that it's common for them to come apart.
Robert your communication skills are flawless & was the reason why I chose to use a prong collar on my dog. The prong collar, used correctly(which your videos clearly demonstrate), is 1 of the 2 most humane, & a clear communication tool between you & your dog. I also have been sharing your videos trying to reduce the stigma that these collars have. Much respect Robert, you are one of my role models!
When I first got my rescue working line German shepherd she was extremely fearful (cowering in a corner because I said no to her lightly) after working on engagement and using the check chain and lots of rewards and teaching her how to play her general fear reduced but she was always uncontrollable around other dogs on walks. Even though at training she behaved perfectly. When I tried the prong collar on her I found she was able to calm herself much faster and could then be in a mental state capable of learning through mostly positive methods how to interact with other dogs and that most of the time they aren't to be feared or charged at in an attempt to force play. I can now mostly walk her on a flat collar but the prong collar has done more than any other tool for teaching her how to be calm and relaxed. Thanks for sharing the value of these tools when used appropriately!
200kaza I just got a 2 1/2 month old GS. She is exhibiting the same behavior you are describing. She is calm, sweet, and collective, until the loud barking begins when she sees other dogs. How is your GE doing now?
I spent the first 5 minutes trying to determine if that was an insane cliff you’re on or just the brush rolls right into dirt.
I know!! Total acrophobe here so I was a LITTLE nauseous but kept it together to take in the info 😄
Thanks for the great common sense review. I have a 4 month old Siberian Husky. He self corrects with his pinch/prong collar. Rarely does he yelp with it on. Only time he yelps, is when he sees a another animal and lunges towards it. He has even been self correcting when he does this. Take the collar off, and he drags you down the road. With collar on, there is slack in his leash. Amazing results. I try to hardly pull on him with it on. Only when absolutely necessary.
Thanks robert.. you are so generous when it comes to information about dog training..
Absolutely the Balanced Complete Training is the way.
As always, great video to educate. The problem is many people are uneducated in how to correctly use these prong collars. I purchased a HS prong collar and it has completely changed how our Shih Poo, Luki, walks with me and heels. I never pull him on it but whenever he failed to heel, he would regulate the pressure. He quickly learned to keep an eye on where I am. I use both positive reinforcement with food, praise, etc AND the prong collar to walk. At 13 months old, Luki walks better than most any other dog I have seen. Whenever we walk now, it is almost always loose leash, unless he loses focus then he self regulates based on the pressure of the collar. I am now a firm believer in a balanced approach to training.
This is my exact experience with a young adult rescue pit mix. She's a joy now and gaining confidence by the day as she was so fearful she could not even leave the front porch. 💪💪💪🥰
Thank you for the video. I wish I found you sooner. The first trainer I had told me no one will work with my dog since she had anxiety issues. He told me to "get rid of the dog". Those were his exact words.
WOW
Unfortunetly hes right about All positive Trainers. They do pick and choose dogs and give up on the dogs that these tactics don't work on they give up. Im even see Victoria Stillwell tell a family to put their dog down because her methods didn't work. Totally avoidable.
'all positive' training is a fundamental lie. No animal learns with no corrections or discomfort. 'all positive' is political , simple as that.
Victoria Stillwell was just an actress, she has never been a real dog trainer and her advice to kill the dog, because she had no clue, it was wrong, very wrong and I was glad that she was sued in the court of law for what she has done to this poor dog and these people... Actors are not trainers, they don't have 20-30 or 40 years of experience behind them, this was a horror... so very sad, so bad...
@@Basialovesgsds Do you have a link to an article or video about Victoria Stillwell saying that, or being sued?
What episode did Victoria Stillwell tell a family to put their dog down?
@Jeanmarie Todd - I wasn't slamming anyone, you must have misunderstood me, sorry if I confused you.. I just expressed my sorrow for the poor dog that was condemned to death by a person that didn't know enough and shouldn't have bluntly told this couple to put their dog down.. these people loved this dog, the kids loved this dog and the dog suffered from fear of inevitable death by lethal injection, this dog died unnecessarily.. the pain of this situation could have been avoided.
I am going to seek out a good balanced trainer shortly to help me with leash walking and the right Collar for it. Robert you are the best trainer I have seen on You Tube.
That is a beautiful dog! We used a pinch collar on our first Rottweiler my parents got when we were in Germany. They showed us the same as what you are showing, up high, behind the ears.
Thank you for such an informative video. I , like a lot of people thought that these were “Cruel”. I have after almost 40 years of waiting have my dream dog. He has adapted very well to the pinch collar and now my arthritics hands are not a mess when walking him. Thank you Thank you Thank you!!🥰🥰🥰
Thank you for your common sense problem solving. I had to use an e collar on a very powerful untrained Labrador. I went to a trainer
for instructions. He saved the dogs life. He explained that he didn’t want to hurt the dog but he needed to learn how to pay attention and
come on recall...... I’m a retired trainer that was dead set against this tool. Nice to be able to retrain this old dog trainer... When I say he
he saved his life that is the truth. He was so out of control, all other methods failed, with out a doubt he would have been returned to
the shelter if he had been chosen by someone with little knowledge of dogs and training....I’m glad we pursued he is still a work
in progress so am I.....Thank you so much. Train according to the dogs needs......I appreciate your advice....
You are right about the use of reinforcement collars. I have never seen a positive trainer with a more aggressive breed of dog. I love the dog's expression when you put the collar on yourself.
I have pittbulls and rotties and I can say no.. prong callers are not needed😂😂
Hi Robert! I’m so glad I came across your chair and it’s so refreshing to see another trainer using and advocating these tools properly and in a positive way. I’ve followed duke Ferguson for many many years and I actually work for one of his old students now. Thank you and please continue to make videos. ❤️
Robert, I have had the pleasure of being a companion to a Dalmatian, two blue heelers, a Siberian, a Pitstiff, an amped terrier, and now a Coyote/Ridge, adopted from a shelter as an abused dog but we work with him everyday, we are utilizing your lessons on him. My two Mali’s are in our home in about two weeks. Keep up the great work because the Pronged collar kept my Massbull or Pitstiff way more calm. Sad day when the Cancer came back again and she was 8 and didn’t quite have the fight to Stave off the ugly “C” word again. I have changed Canine diet for my dog Slater and now hope with your help to give him and these Mali’s the best life possible. Thank you 🙏🏻
Just purchased a herm sprenger collar for my 1 year old GSD...was intending to for a while recently...your videos have helped back up my knowledge to combat ignorant fools...that no doubt will come at me with comments regarding the “barbarity” of it 🙄...your video is much appreciated...
I’ve been going back and forth about getting a herm sprenger. Have done a lot of research and you’ve sold me. I have tried positive reinforcement only training- just doesn’t fit my dogs high drive.
Thank you, Robert, youre a blessing! Honest mv. Educated people like you, who are sharing real training, safety, and common sense with the world is generous and vital. I've seen ppl using those horrible petco made in China prong collars, dragging their dogs with a chain too big. Or those idiots who think it makes their dog look tuff...
I appreciate you and your honesty!
The videos are so informative and help me personally, more than you could know, thank you Robert.
Can you please show a close up photo of using a secondary collar as a backup?
Thank you for this video. I was one who thought the prong collar would hurt my dog. I have a corso who was just unruly on the leash, always pulling this way and that. I purchased the prong collar and we can actually walk. He was manageable from day one. This video was a lifesaver and THANK YOU for the guidance on making sure the leash is also attached to the regular dog collar....that prong collar came off twice on the first walk and my corso is not socialized...and could have been ugly had he gotten away from me. We are on day 4 of pleasant walks.
Congrats and good for you and your dog.
Maya, the papaya is beautiful. Awesome video.
The pinch collar changed everything for the good with my first GSD pup. Luckily I did have a trainer who taught me how to use it. I watch people with high-drive muscle dogs being dragged down the road. That is not fair to anyone involved and doesn't make taking a walk or hike very enjoyable.
ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC. THANK YOU MR CABRAL!!!!
! 🐩🦴Had my first session with Stephanie of Black Kraken K9. I wish I knew of her when we brought our puppy home July last year. Great first session. I now have hope I can improve my relationship and engagement with my standard poodle. Thank you for helping me see the light with your awesome videos. The rest of our sessions will be virtual due to driving distance .
I just love ur explanation on this. It has really helped. We ended up using this collar on our GSD. And it works nicely given the proper instructions. Thank you.
Best dog trainer bar none.
Huge thumbs up for the shelter challenge!! It's not about the tool, it's about the hand that wields it!
I was using a flat collar for my Rhodesian Ridgeback who is a highly prey driven hound. I struggled to make any progress with the lunging. I took training slow, starting in a controlled environment(house), then the yard then the park. The park was our problem place. Too many scents and sounds and my dog would just not respond to me even with the best treats(fresh liver, sausage, chicken). I reverted to the controlled environment and each day would work up closer to the park which is only about 200 meters away from my house. But still no progress. In fact it got worse. My dog would pull so hard at every tree, bird, dog, child that he would start to choke. Last week it really came to a halt as after my attempted training session my dog was coughing quite a bit. I took him to the vet who done a scan and found some minor bruising around the trachea. This is a dog who was being trained daily from the age of 12 weeks. But distractions were always a problem. So I consulted the training college and the Herm Sprenger was suggested and they even offered to ease any concerns that I may have. At first I was a bit hesitant but the more I researched the more it made sense. It may look like some medieval torture gadget but folk in situations like me have wonderful pets as a result. I absolutely won't risk losing my pet because positive only methods have not worked in distracting situations. At home my boy is just splendid. So I'll have gotten the Sprenger on Saturday and I'll see if it works or not.
please keep me posted and thanks for thinking outside of the box!
@@RobertCabralDogs will do so 👍
Quite sensible and balanced statements I am not sure why would any good trainer even argue that??? Thank you for the tips and your expert opinion.
Thank you for these videos. I am on my fourth dog, a 4 1/2 year old female Akita that my wife and I adopted from a shelter. We are her third family and have had rescues before. The dog, Zoey is 80 pounds and we were advised she would be a "challenge". Her second family reported she snarled at the husband and would "knock over children". She was very fearful of me when we got her home and is profoundly loyal to my wife. She obviously had no training. (She has never snarled at me or anyone else. ) We have completed both a basic and intermediate "positive" training courses offered by our local humane society and she has made a lot of progress. We can walk her in public with no issues, she is very friendly with people, ranging from adults and small children. However, she needs socialization with other dogs and we are about the begin a class and work addressing that issue. We have used pinch collars before with other large dogs and found them to be very useful. Although the local trainers are against the use of pinch collars we see their advantage with a large strong dog. We agree with you that training is best when balanced. My question, Zoey is 80 pounds, of proper weight, we want to order a Herm Spenger pinch collar, with the thick fur and undercoat of an Akita, what size prong do you recommend?
We got one for our Shepard mix, I’ve tried many times with all types of training... and walks are hard because he pulls hard. I’ve been worried what others think, but this is for TRAINING not forever. I want him to learn to not pull and lunge when someone is even YARDS away.
I used it on myself and it’s simple, pull it’s uncomfortable... relax and stay close it’s nice. I’ll try it tonight after learning proper fit and handling, in the evening from prying eyes... I want to keep this dog and walk, run and bike without him lunging!
Thank you for your professional validation of the Prong collar. I'm tired of the positive-only training schools who don't believe in these and only allow Martingale collars but NO leash corrections. There's no way I could train my GSD pup without the prong or leash corrections.
None of the trainers in my area will take leash-reactive dogs, and I have come to understand it's because training a dog out of it is extremely difficult using POT. If you can't fix 99% of problems with POT, then it is not an effective training method. It exists to make people feel good, not for the dog to be truly well-balanced and happy. Balanced training = balanced dog. I do think of my dog as my kid, while being very aware that he is still a DOG. I have smacked my daughter's hand when she reached for something dangerous (hello hot stove, and even a fire once), why would I not do the same for my dog? Most human life lessons are gained from emotional or physical "discomfort", why not dogs as well?
@@VorpalOtter 100%!!!
@@VorpalOtter Balanced Training as Robert says, is the only way. Agree with you 100%.
Love that, that's a nice way to give people advice about this tool.
I'm glad and relieved to have found your channel and instructions on prong collar use. I have nerve damage and spinal damage from a car accident and the instructions here have allowed me to train and safely walk my German Shepherds. I joined your training site.💜💜
Best comments on prong collar i ever read! Thank you. I always think the whole training process is more for the owner/handler, than for the dog.
Lol Robert throwing down the challenge any shelter anytime lets do it. Love you man
I ordered that same sprenger collar. I have the sweetest most loving pit/border collie mix. Inside she is a licking loving docile baby. Outside she pulls towards walkers, runners, other dogs. Then there are the rabbit, squirrel, and bird pulls and fixation. I need a firm correction. The martingale is good so she can't slip out, but in the process she is choking herself and gasping for air so much that I bought a no pull harness so she doesn't hurt her throat from the constant tightening of the nylon martingale
Great info! These collars are misunderstood by most. When used properly they’re an excellent tool. My dogs hear the collars, then come running because they associate the collar with us preparing to work or do something fun.
Very informative listen professional dog trainer who knows what he is doing.
So it should be snuck? Should you be able to pass two fingers through it once its on? I may have mine to lose. Thank you. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Should the backup collar be hooked up to the dead ring on the prong/pinch collar, instead of the active ring? That's how I was taught, but I'll follow your lead, so to speak. The idea is that being on the dead ring it won't interfere with or put extra weight on the active ring during corrections, but it's still a good backup? I use an 8-inch backup strap with attachers on each end; one goes to my dog's normal fixed collar ring, one goes on the frame of the leash's snap hook attacher. Have tested it, works well.
Great, useful, implementable videos, thanks from me and my GSD.
Thank you sir I appreciate your vids & passion to truly help dogs & their people🐕💗👌
Exactly! Love this video, every time I tell someone about a prong collar they instantly give me a look and say it’s dangerous and mean but they haven’t done any research on them
Have you done research??? there are much better tools available. prong collars are an old school way of training. There is not one benefit to using a prong collar.
Max E Pad yeah I have actually! And it works for me and my dog so there’s a Benefit right there.
@@sheneilparsons610 LOL well I can tell you have not or you get some weird pleasure out of it. i wont judge :) :)
Max E Pad you mean like you are right now? Go troll somewhere else
@@sheneilparsons610 Go troll your dog haha
Love the video I am dog trainer that just learned something from you how to correctly set the color that is awesome never used them before but I will if I need to thank you for the insight and the good job on the videos
Thanks I certainly feel you are correct we have to look at all methods to train the prong collar is great our German Shepard does not pull at all. some consistency in trining some light pops and he was all good.
Glad you are on the tube.
Thanks.
Do you have 'understanding e-dollar's recommendations !?
Thank you for precise proper training advice
Rescued a 3 month old female puppy with signs of reactivity who's mother was chained to a house of some old couple's farm, who got her so she could bark and lunge at everyone and everything, she only got food, living in her own feces.
Within a month that we got her, there was an absolute COVID lock down for 6 months. No people in parks, no bars/ restaurant visits (only delivery), no mass of people anywhere, and certainly no live dog training sessions/ classes.
We trained obedience every day at least 2 times a day. She was a good girl. When lock down was over I quickly realized I failed at the core of our training. She was not properly socialized. As soon as I could I enroled her in the most accepted dog program around, where they have 3 levels of training and a HUGE reputation including dealing with reactivity.
She was the oldest dog in class, and she was the only one who was performing obedience tasks with 100%. Training sessions were always at the urban areas, in front of malls, cinema, restaurants, which was ok. But the training was pure positive reenforcement. My dogs reactivity somewhat subsided , but I was afraid it wasn't properly delt with.
I was offered help with halti (goes over the nose), pinch collar was a no-no.
After we did all 3 levels and some time passed her reactivity slowly came back.
It's not as prominent as with her mother, but I cannot have her off lead if we're let's say at a park, because I don't know when she will lounge at someone. The biggest triger for her are screaming children, especially if they run after her (yes, it happens A LOT, even todlers with some parents not interfering at all! ).
It can also randomly come up when people asking for directions come to close, other times she is completely ok with strangers.
She is unpredictable.
Before it was manageable, but now she's 3 and I notice she is somewhat growing into it. I can hold her down, that's not the probelm, the probelm is that with "positive only" training I failed her completely. It's heartbreaking.
I've been doing more of self control training through play again so that I could use "no" to pinpoint an unwanted behavior but it obviously isn't as clear and not at all effective as training with a prong will be.
I think positive only training works within a very limited space. I'm sure some people would be fine with behavior that my dog has now, in fact I see it all the time.
That's the moto of basically all dog training programs around here. "All dogs are not the same, have realistic expectations"... well yeah, because some dogs would require additional few steps after what they are presenting. Positive only dog training doesn't go all the way for a dog with slightly stronger behavioral issue, and it's not fair to the dog that it's not delt with.
I have a question - Can I get this & use it just until my puppy/dog behaves & learns how to walk & not pull, tug, etc - but then once he's trained, can I stop using it? Or is this something I will have to use forever, even after he's leash trained?
Great video, I took your advice and switched to the 2.5 Herm Sprenger collar. Wow what a difference it made in how my Mal responds, never would have thought it was possible .Awesome
Thanks for posting this.
Great investigative work. You have a great friend I am sure.
Thank you, very well explained.
I was always against these collars, but after looking into them extensively and finding this video too, I think I’ll get one for my dog Moose because he has no chill with people and walking. No gentle leads work with him, so here’s to hoping it works. 😁
ChaoticBunny did it work
How is it going?
I gave this a shot, had him slowly learned into it and now I can finally walk him properly without him pulling and trying to go up to people. (Dogs I grab him by his harness so he doesn't get injured because he still has no chill with that.) But otherwise I can walk him around the neighborhood and not even have to correct him with pulling anymore. It's worked awesomely, and I am the only one who can and is allowed to use the collar because my husband isn't the best with it and Im still working on educating him more with it. :)
@@chaoticbunbun yeah, inconsistencies in the household definitely contradicts quality training and can cause frustration for the dog too lol.
@@ctvwrest For sure! But luckily my hubs is willing to learn and eventually he'll be ready to take the dogs for walks and properly use the tool. :)
Total agree with you ...I would never be able to walk my gsd without this collar she walks lovely now before she would have me over lunging at everything and pulling in front ...its a pleasure to walk her
I have three miniature Labradoodle puppies . One female is a year old . The other two are a female and male who are 8months. The male , accidentally had broken his leg the first day we had gotten him. Now he is hyper reactive about everything . Now when I try to get leash train him I put the leash on him and he goes nuts. I can’t get him to walk with me, he pulls until he’s in pain then he will not walk me. I’m at the point of throwing my hands up. He has to be sedated whenever he has to go to the groomer or the Vet. He and his sisters are digging holes all over our fenced in yard. I’m at my wits end with Jasper
I have a 1yr old German/Aussie shepherd mix, and up until this point I had the pinch collar ruled out. Today I bought one for him to see how he’d respond to it and to try to get his pulling and lunging at other dogs under control. IMMEDIATELY I saw an explosion of responsiveness from him. Matter of fact, it’s the first day of him wearing it, and it saved him already. Two dogs approached us unsupervised on a walk, and if it wasn’t for the collar there is absolutely no way I would have been able to remove him from that situation. His flat collar would have choked him out trying to defend himself, and no other tool I had on my person could have defended him. I gave him a quick pull and he reacted perfectly, turning away from the two dogs and following me away from them. Couldn’t be any more happy that I gave it a try
Great video as usual. Thanks for the info. Really appreciate the videos, as I've learned so much from your channel.
I currently use the prong on our pit/husky mix youngster. My boyfriend, however, uses the halti on her for walks and it has actually worked quite well for him. I wouldn't rule the halti out. It's not going to give you the effectiveness of the prong collar as far as corrections, but it isn't just a gimmick either.
Thank u Mr.Cabral for everything u help with my German Shepard beluim malunwa mix it’s helped alot
Glad to hear it
Thank you for this. I am a petite female with two large Labradors that are horrific on the leash, and though they like other dogs, they completely come unglued when they see one, or a duck, or a blowing leaf. I cannot walk them together, by myself. I am a medical professional, on assignment away from my home state, and I cannot afford a high priced dog trainer, so I have to learn how to train them myself, so I can have well behaved, happy dogs that I can take out. I am want to give the prong collar a try. My question for you is, how do you know what method to use/try to use? Is it just trial and error? I will not give up on my dogs, but I am heartbroken I can not give them the life they deserve - going for walks, being taken with me to all the dog-friendly restaurants, dog parks, etc. I would love some guidance.
Thank you for your common sense problem solving. I had to use an e collar on a very powerful untrained Labrador. I went to a trainer
for instructions. He saved that dogs life. He explained that he didn’t want to hurt the dog but he needed to learn how to pay attention and
come on recall...... I’m a retired trainer that was dead set against this tool. Nice to be able to retrain this old dog trainer... When I say he
he saved his life that is the truth. He was so out of control with all the other methods with out a doubt he would have been returned to
the shelter.
Amazing!!
Great Job!!
Robert, when you start habituating a dog to a Prong collar, do you start with the dead ring?
I've seen people saying they always use the dead ring, others saying they always use the live ring and others who say they start with the dead ring and progress to the live ring... So I'm confused 😆
What's your take?
Thanks!
I believe that a pinch collar will be a good tool for my strong minded GSD. I'm still not sold on the e-collar. Is the pinch collar the tool to try before resorting to an e-collar ?
Thank you Robert, I have a 145lbs bullmastiff, having the choke collar on her and using your technique of attaching both the choke and the prong collar, should i go for a smaller sice prong collar so its not so heavy on her neck?
This reminds me of using spurs with some horses. They can be great tools if used properly.
Question. Does it matter where the ring lands on the dogs neck that looped to the leash? I thought it had to be on the top of the neck but looks like you had it on the side?
Hi! I have 2 male dogs who have been together for at least 2 years, a few months back I was given 2 more puppies and ever since then the w older dogs had been fighting. Like fighting that resulted to so much injuries to both them. How do I put a stop to this the right way?
I like you. Sharing you on the fb group i follow for dogs. Thank you for sharing your knowledge♡
I’m in school to become a vet tech right now and I had a teacher who was close minded about these great training tools and only believed in positive reinforcement training for her very reactive dog, that it eventually lead her to put the dog down because the training wasn’t helping him get any better. It breaks my heart that people choose to end the life of their pet rather than giving them a better life by seeking out all options with an open mind to give their dog a better life.
LOL peter pans more real than this story hahaha from positive reinforcement to lets kill it hahaha wow
Max E Pad right bc I was bored one day and felt the need to make up a story after watching
@@Ariana-ek6mw I think are so closed-minded you are believing whatever you tell yourself haha you are too lazy to put some work into an animal. tip to get your dog to lay down fast hit it will a car works 99.9% of the time. trust me I'm a professional trainer.
Max E Pad if you would’ve actually read what I said, I’m literally telling a story my teach told me. I think you need to do less training and do more with grammar and spelling bc had no idea what you’re trying to say 😊
@@Ariana-ek6mw LOL then you need more reasoning skills and stop being so gullible. think for yourself, before spending all the shit you hear.. hahaha or do as you are told and sit down and shut up hahahaha :) :)
Thank you so much for this video, I have just found you and subscribed to your channel. About 7 months ago, I have adopted a 2 yr old shelter neutered pit bull. He's a good boy, loves everybody but, however, I need some motivation for his obedience training. I just bought a choke collar and a pinch collar, today actually. I feel like a combination of both should work for him during his obedience training exercises, just to add just (some) pressure with a little owe, "hey, I need to listen technique", He has the tendency to get lazy, hey I wanna go back in the house, this is work, I dont like this kinda attitude. He is not a happy camper during traing. He doesn't like it. lol. I really do not want to use use treats for motivation, although he is very food motivated, ugh. Maybe a combination of both? He has plenty of toys, and as you figured out buy now, he is spoiled, I do love my boy.. But I also want this animal, aka my baby, yes to be a pet but, also trained too. BTW, I'm not mean to him, I am firm but not abusive, I do not snach on him, I try to be fair and make sure that he understands why I am pulling on the leash, I give it a quick pull without trying to pull his head off.. Enough to say, hey we are not done or, your not paying attention, that's why you got the tug. What are your thoughts? Food rewards during traing or just the collar? How would you approach a lazy dog to get him interested in traing, to see it as fun not just work. Nobody likes just work. Any advise or tips would be greatly appreciated. Oh, One other thing he was growing at my 11 yr old daughter when she would walked down the hall to go by him to get to her room. And yes, should would walk by him frequently, he liked laying down in the hall way that was by her bedroom door but, to fix this issue I have put up a baby gate to keep him outta the hall way that is by her her door, problem solved... I'm just trying to set up rules and boundaries for the both of them, being trying to be the alpha and controlling the environment to keep everyone safe. And you know, she walking buy him alot and I just think that he seen that as bothersome, so with that problem is solved with the baby gate. Now just working on the issue at hand with the training. Thank you for taking the time to read this lengthy comment. Like I mentioned, any tips or advise would be greatly appreciated... Thx ♥️
Positive only training for all dogs is as ridiculous as positive only for human children. Good tools used FAIRLY can keep dogs out of shelters. I can tell how upset you are to see dogs that were given up on when the harnesses and treats failed. I recently adopted a 90 lb shelter dog, and boy is he a change from the other dogs I’ve had! He’s 50% German shepherd with boxer and Amstaff mixed in, high drive and sometimes stubborn - came with zero leash manners. My other dogs, sure positive only would have worked okay, but this boy has made me realize I have to up my training game or risk being run over. I’m sure he was surrendered because he was too much to handle. I don’t want to fail him. Currently researching prong collars and want to do it responsibly. Thank you for your content and know your message is being heard. Love and cookies are not enough!
How did it work???
@@binary thanks for asking. I actually worked on building relationship and using a slip lead. He is still reactive to other dogs while on walks and because of his low threshold I decided that a prong collar was not the best choice for him. He walks very nicely now and I used a slip lead only up high around his ears along with a weighted vest. He’s still reactive to some dogs but improving! I have a prong collar and I’m not opposed to them used correctly, but I don’t think it’s the right tool for him.
@@craniumrex4614 nice! I'm using a slip lead for my lab as well. Might use the prong soon.
@@binary good luck!!
Nice video Robert, can you advise me please. I have a large nearly 3 year old long haired G.S.D which pulls on the lead , have tried the slip lead but still the same, because of all his long hair which size prong collar do I choose ? Thanks
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Robert I have purchased a prong collar. How do I know if it’s too tight. It doesn’t move when it’s on dogs neck and I try to rotate. Thanks so much
Check my video on proper sizing.
Bravo
I love your video and i must say, you are very nice to look at! :-)
Thankyou!
Great information. I used one of those on my German Shepard and got great results even though I had it way to big. I have sense changed to a harness that I can connect in the front and on the back. The front clip works so very well for him. I am really enjoying your training techniques. You just make sense! Thanks!
I just went for a short walk (some neighbour had their dog loose walking on sidewalk 🤬 had to cut it short) and I just came back to say it’s a complete 180• for my dog OMG! I had his attention each little tug, every time he pulled.
Excellent and 100% true.
I have a pocket bully and she is horrible on a leash but I have one of these would she still be trainable with this training tool? She pulls and drags especially seeing another dog or cat.
Some dogs can pull more than a person. I'm training a 4 year old 4 owner pit mix that has issues with every other dog and certain people/movements. Which I understand due to the bb/pellets that are lodged in her legs and chest and yes removal is in the works. When walking her you really need to look everywhere or one of you will be taking a ride. That will end soon but without the prong collar, it would be impossible to keep everyone safe through leash training. Use it humanely and correctly its a handy tool.
I want to thank you for your video on prong collar. I have a 10 month old catahoula and was amazed the first time I put the prong collar on him. Before he would really pull aggressively. Now he is calmer with his walking. another thing i was surprised about was he let me put the collar on without fussing.
My name is Mia, Im a 3.5 year old super high drive GSD Mali cross from working lines and I mean the world to my human. He very reluctantly put a prong collar on me when I was about 7 months old on the advice of a trainer, because despite me being a good girl who has been off leash (away from roads) since I was 12 weeks old, have fantastic recall and zero reactivity, I do get pretty revved up to get to wherever it is we're going and cant get there quick enough which means that on a flat or a fur saver collar I can just drag my human to the park even though im choking out. It took the trainer a couple of training sessions to talk him into it because hed never seen one or heard of one before and thought they looked barbaric. Finally he relented and allowed the trainer to fit me with a prong and proceeded to show him how to fit it and how to use it. You know what, within five minutes I learned that if I dont fight the prong it wont pinch and dig in. I learned within days how to match my humans pace even though I still wanted to get where we were going faster than he did. Over a period of time I learned to listen to my humans request to walk tight (informal heel) without him getting all stressed.
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@@RobertCabralDogs Wasnt meant to be a stand alone comment, I thought I was replying to some idiots negative, idiotic and vile reply to a comment made by another. It seemed a good idea at the time to respond from my dogs point of view seeing as I was scrolling comments on her TH-cam channel.
Helped stop pulling tugging acting up when it replaced regular collar.
Use sensibly.
Lucky for me I have rescued a lot of dogs over 25 years and have managed to train them without a prong, however, I have a dog now, rehomed to me for serious and mean aggression, he will attack people, dogs and other animals, he is huge and unmanageable on leash. I'm considering using a prong for the safety of others and so that the dog does not get into trouble unless, of course, anyone has any suggestions on how to be nice to the dog while he's eating someone.