(2022y) HONDA CIVIC e:HEV (FL4) , acceleration test. (2.0L hybrid) DCT sound?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 26 ก.ย. 2022
- (2022y) HONDA CIVIC e:HEV (FL4)
engine - LFC 2.0L hybrid
Engine power 139hp(104kW) / 6000rpm
Engine torque 182Nm / 4500rpm
motor - H4
Engine power 182hp
Engine torque 315Nm
weight 1460kg
e-CVT FF
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The engine lost so much power from the 'fake shift'. Just make the eCVT behave like it should ffs.
Carwow managed under 7 sec with sport mode and brake boost. Seems like brake boosting will remove the dreadful 'shift' and keep the engine in the power band.
Thanks for the useful information!
This car does not have an eCVT - it's both a series hybrid (engine powers the battery, which drives electric motors) and direct driven by the engine (only at highway speeds and cruising RPMs). Brake "boosting" doesn't really do anything with this powertrain, and the fake shifting doesn't hamper performance even a little bit since the electric motors are constantly applying full power regardless of what the engine is doing.
Screw standard CVT sound, it's awful; what Honda did here is pure class, using a CVT but making it sound like a good old gearbox, with speeds.
@@turbare again - *no CVT*
@@TheEmpoleon123456789 agreed, CVT is shit. But he's saying that atleast cvt whining noise is not there thanks to honda.
I love these vids especially engine bay asmrs
315 nm is same like a 3.0v6 in this little civic moving good
Sweet!
There is also a hybrid civic similar to this one but the fake shifting is different from this civic, one of which is in the Thai automotive content which tests the acceleration of the civic hybrid 2.0 so when he tested the acceleration
this emulation of dct-s looks like great. as european i hate cvt gearbox sounds. but I think japanese engineers worked well. love it
As a European I hate DCTs and enjoy the smoothness of CVTs 😁
@@Schreibtisch1 why do you hate DCT?
Its not the CVT you hear, its the engine at high revs. Ive had two Subarus with CVT, I could never hear the transmission.
I do love the sound it makes even though it's fake. However, the only question I have is 'does the Speedo that's like RPM actually change or is it fake?'.
Thats actually fast
Born to be fast....😅😊
Can you tune that kind of car? If yes what are the options? Thank you!😁
Sounds 👍
it is a fake sound.
@@1theblacksheep its faking it well though lol
Interesting numbers, but let's be honest: it is another CVT that emulates shifting with the purpose of the people to stop hating this type of transmission. I´ve even heard that this emulation of shifting makes the car lose acceleration vs the older CVTs that didn´t emulate shifting. I don´t know if that is accurate.
This system is totally different than eg. Toyota's. It's basically electric car without any gearbox. It's has not much to do with CVT, except shortcut. Gears here is just a modulation of a current which goes to an electric motor.
Watch/read more about it. There are good explanations how the whole system works. Petrol engine just serves as generator for 184HP/315Nm electric motor (+ charges battery). There is a time when electric motor is disconnected from the wheels and petrol one is directly connected instead. This is at steady ride at 70Km/h+ up to 100 or something like this. This is because at those speeds it's actually more efficient to use petrol engine than going though electric motor (I assume petrol engine works in its optimal rpm). There is no gearbox any kind (just 1 gear for petrol engine- it's like a 6th gear). All what you hear is just simulation. Recuperation is also more efficient than in Toyota as it directly goes to electric motor (where in Toyota it goes through gearbox). It's almost an electric car with petrol engine :)
@@SOMEONE-ME It´s been a very interesting explanation. Thanks a lot for posting it. Hence, this system looks very similar to Nissan's E-Power where the engine doesn´t make the car move but the electric motor does.
Regards and thanks again.
@@danielramadelcastillo8890 As far as I understand it's the same system as Nissan been using for a while now. It's not a totally new technology, like eg. Mazda's Skyactiv X engine.
Honda e-CVT:
th-cam.com/video/QLUIExAnNcE/w-d-xo.html
Honda e-CVT (i-MMD) explain the 3 mode drive by Professor John E. Kelly.
@@SOMEONE-ME Nissan system is different though. The petrol engine only powers the electric stuff and is never connected to the wheels. Acceleration is solely managed by the electric motor and the car comes with a single speed transmission, just like an EV.
this cvt reminds a lot of the corolla cvt the gear changes looks like a dct change
There is no gearbox.
Honda's immd hybrid system don't have any traditional cvt gearbox, they named it ecvt because the electric motor can do the same thing as the traditional cvt does (variable gear ratio)
@@kencai6803 there are no variable gear ratios, the motor only varies torque output to simulate shifting
@@shivamarya5225 What I mean is the electric motor can simulate the "gear ratio" and can call it ecvt where we usually can find from the traditional gearbox
Has an exact 0-150kmh time as my remmaped 2.2 CTdi Civic from 2009. Probably the same average cons.
And way worse top speed. It's evolving, just backwards 😂
But this gets much butter fuel efficiency
@@SIIKAP1 Lol, not really. Urban 6.5 - 7.5 l/100km and 4 - 5.5 l/100km extraurban. Not to mention the fact this new overly-complicated car costs 30 000 - 40 000 euro. What the actual fuck
@@emmanuelperrina6105 All they are actually trying to do is switch everything to electric. I hope they fail. When I say they, I mean the corporations and the governments.
@@mariusbajas3969 yeah I agree 👍
I got my civic from 23.08 fuel consumption is about 4,2 in city (normal mode), and 6,4 highway (140km/h). Fuel tank ~41 l ~ 630 km in city. Driving in eco mode 3,5 (tested on 40 km). Driving >160km/h is annoying...
How r u satisfied with the car? I'm also considering it.
@@pret83 it's my 2nd car, only for country rides. Quality is much better than toyota. Consumption is very good. I have to make some movies but I don't have much time ;(
What is the engine rpm at 120 and 140?
Can you tell me the consumption between 100-120km/h? Thanks
@@wojciechwilimowski985 nie mam pojęcia, w sobotę jadę w trasę 900 km to będę wiedzieć
thats the sound from speaker. add subwoofer for bassy sound. hahaha
Is this in Normal mode? Carwow tested in Sport mode and then it's 7sec to 100KM/h or even below sometimes.
This is sport mode.
I think the biggest factor is the loss of power due to the fake gearshift.
@@J-car There is no gear shifting as there is no gearbox. Car is driven by electric motor. It's all fake to give "old car feel" and to make people not to feel "strange".
th-cam.com/video/L9_xKVwVkso/w-d-xo.html
In his case it kept max power all the time. Different car firmware? Your Accord video is more like it.
@@J-car the fake gearshift likely does not impact the acceleration time in this car because the battery is torque filling no matter what the engine is doing. If this were a car with a traditional CVT gearbox then it would indeed lose power. In this case there is no adverse effect
It is tuned so that the drive force is actually cut off during the fake gearshift. I felt the commitment of Honda.
@@J-car wait, really? That's very strange.
Advance: 1499Kg
Aren’t hybrids usually super quiet ? Why does it sound like a
Normal gas car ?
They amplified the sound through the speakers (when Sport mode selected) This car is still quiet under moderate acceleration
@@Has7DCT so its a fake engine sound coming from the speakers ?
@@mosescho8652 correct. This tech have been around in numerous cars, especially electric cars
@@Has7DCT Not through the car speakers. There is special unit which fakes it. There is no way to turn it off in settings, but some people already disconnected it with 10min DIY.
@@SOMEONE-ME thanks for the info
Is it technically possible to have a turbo on this
Good question. no Gearbox. can it handle a turbo or ecu remapping?
What the difference between this one and a normal civic hybrid from the past?
This is the first honda civic hybrid.
lol 315nm.............
@@Erikootje Yes, because it's driven by electric motor, so it gives great feel (constant power delivery).
At least 9 shifts I heard. Fast and furious became a reality.
CIVIC Hatchback？
8th gear..wow..and yes didn't sound like CVT at all
There’s no actual gears , it’s a cvt transmission
@@benjzerep It's not a CVT!!!!!
@@italianjob4947 yea it is bro look up the specs 😂 straight cvt , no real gears
@@benjzerep CVT non existent. Watch the Honda presentation. CVT refers to a gearbox, which this has none.
@@italianjob4947 cvt is existent and this car has it , literally one gear with fake shift points
Like to buy one
So it has dct sound?
it takes 1 second from when you kick the gas to when the cars begin to increase speed! you don't sign this lag that is not very amazing. so the second are not correct
Good acceleration but bad top end
I numeri sono interessanti, secondo me la macchina,o meglio il gruppo propulsore spinge forte......
Turn off ESP then it will be full power.
Engine gear count: 9
Shifts like a DCT...
There is no gearbox tho so it doesn't, it is just software faking it
@@Cernold that's right
@@Cernold which when you think about it makes total sense. they probably did it because of how annoying it can be to hear a constant same high pitch sound. this makes you think like its shifting which makes you forget that sound.
@@Pand0rasAct0r_ Right, that constant acceleration sound just sounds so horrible
Fake dct wkwkwk
315+ hp and 0-100 is 7.8s?
182HP...
@@AtlisWerks LOL. combined power isnt 182
@@pigmoonk2545 LOL yes, it is.
@@AtlisWerks LOL
In a hybrid car, engine and electric motor power usually are never just added together to get the quoted power. its rated as 186 by honda. that is because the powerbands where that power is are at completely different points. f.e., the electric motor might have its max power at an rpm where the gas engine only produces like 40hp. plus, there are losses in the drivetrain etc.
Is not possible to unlock the max speed??..180kmh is so sad!!!!
Why, you live in Germany?
who cares, how many times do you need to actually drive at fucking 180?????????????
Its not even an issue in the real world, oooow noooo I cant drive 180 fucking km an hour!!!!!.....
Honestly, when reading stuff like this, I'm thinking: how stupid ppl can be....
@@mateobosnjak9988 And even IF you live in Germany the chances of actually finding an empty piece of Autobahn not clogged up with dense traffic is slim. This means you're not going to drive 180km/h (or faster) 99,99% of the time anyway.
Oh, and if 180km/h is "so sad" then OP should buy the Civic Type R.
@@mateobosnjak9988 you don't need to live in Germany to go over 200km/h
180km/h is actually disappointing for a 180hp car
@@McLarenMercedes i don't know where you live and how you drive, but 180 km/h is easily achievable in late night/early morning on normal roads, let alone freeways with 2 or more lanes. On a 3 lanes freeway even 200km/h looks almost slow
遅えよ
速いよ。
@@user-bx9jk7en7z へー😏
slow
No, your brain is clearly *slow* . If you're even serious to begin with.
Automatic....
It has no gearbox, but they have simulated a gearbox to avoid keeping the engine at maximum revs and to make it more attractive to drive. It's just a placebo.
@@SeDjEmAsH still an automatic...FAKE gearbox, so sad..(my personal opinion)
@@deniskickyourassgames9293 not an automatic if it doesn't have a gearbox
Manual transmission, lost it's only benefit: price, these days. Now autmatoics are as expensive or as cheap, should I say, while more preferred by the populace.
@@deniskickyourassgames9293 The fact that it has a clutch does not mean that it has a gearbox, as it only has a 1:1 reduction gearbox.
Hate fake engine sound😅😅😅
Can it be switched off? Is it coming from the speakers?
What happens with the fake sound if you are in a call or listening music?
Does it have a dedicated speaker?
@@luckystrike656 Special unit, can't be turned off, but can be disconnected with bit DIY.
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@@luckystrike656 It makes no noise in eco or normal mode.
2000cc 184hp elettric motor and 8 sec. 0-100km\h??? what is? a turtle?
It's actually 6.8 seconds from 0 to 60, and name me another 184hp car that does 0 to 60 in 8 seconds or less and carries 5 people and their luggage.