Do you need an AMP/DAC for gaming?

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  • Answering a question I'm sure all us gaming have asked before. Do I need an amp/dac for gaming, will it make my audio that much better, and what one do you need. Lets talks about that here in this video.
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  • @TheTechne
    @TheTechne  3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Do you use an amp/dac for gaming? If so what one?

    • @pc_decisions8764
      @pc_decisions8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      9:30 I do that with my qudelix 5k, and I answers calls with my headset or bring my playlist from my phone (on LDAC or APTX adaptive).

    • @Norvile
      @Norvile 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm running the sound blaster g6 with a Drop pc38x

    • @00podge
      @00podge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      love the vid, ive got the hyper x cloud II wired headset and running it through a soundblaster X3... but can never decide if its better if the cloud II are lower volume (through provided amp dac) or louder through my X3... as i play scum and sometimes my X3 can make the game sound overwhelming

    • @00podge
      @00podge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Norvile ahhhh i wanted those but realised was open back and only for sale in usa :(

    • @InstantLuxuryReviews
      @InstantLuxuryReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Personally never really used one before, I guess maybe I really thought it was worth spending loads of money on.

  • @drbadn3ws
    @drbadn3ws 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Beautifully clear and easy to understand. I had watched some previous hardware reviewers try to describe it but nobody put it as simply for beginners as you. Thank you Techne!

  • @noted
    @noted 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    you made me buy the dac amp lmao

    • @inkycat8
      @inkycat8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get me one? I'm broke

    • @TheTechne
      @TheTechne  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      U are in for a treat!

    • @frozenkingdomBM14
      @frozenkingdomBM14 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@inkycat8 get a job, quit begging

    • @Y2kGabriel
      @Y2kGabriel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't think he got you one did he​@@inkycat8

  • @OneDollaBill
    @OneDollaBill 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Short answer no you dont need one, unless you use very high ohm headphones.
    Do you want one? Maybe, if you are running the motherboards internal soundcard.
    Even separate soundcard is a big upgrade.
    The biggest benefit of the dacs imo is that they remove all or most of the electrical interference from the audio. And sure they do change the sound a bit, but you can do a lot with just a software Eq also.

    • @fhf17
      @fhf17 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      eq sucks ass lmao.

  • @Magnulus76
    @Magnulus76 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Motherboard audio is actually pretty good now days. The real problem is with the microphone input and amplification. Often it's fairly noisy because the electronics aren't isolated and many power supplies aren't particularly clean.
    I use a Soundblaster AE-5 and a Rolls microphone amp going into the sound card's line in. Mic input quality is so important if you do any kind of online gaming or voice recording. We've got great electret and MEMS microphones out there now on headsets and desktops, but the mic inputs are often not keeping pace.

  • @Teadrinker710
    @Teadrinker710 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m using a Gamedac with my PC38x paired with a Helm DB12 aaamp. I know there are better set ups, but this works well for me because I have an Xbox one from what I’ve heard the usb audio can be finicky. So far this set up works flawlessly and allows me to chat and hear my party without having to have an external mic, I also love the fact that I can control my chat mix/game audio with a screen right in front of me, that was the biggest selling point for me

  • @shatiaray49
    @shatiaray49 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just when I was thinking whether do I need a amp/dac for gaming headset, you just cleared my doubts. Thanks man. Best video explanation so far.

  • @frankprogrammer
    @frankprogrammer ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I run the DT 900 Pro X out of the iFi Zen DAC V2 and absolutely love it for gaming and music. Nothing compares to the very first time you hear your favorite song with TrueBass turned on. It makes you "feel" the music without distorting it. In games, I have no problem picking up footsteps and their exact direction. I have had this setup for a year and a half and I feel like I could use it for the rest of my life.

    • @musamajid1726
      @musamajid1726 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      time to upgrade to 1990 pr my friend, stack with zen can

    • @frankprogrammer
      @frankprogrammer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@musamajid1726 i mainly use my Moondrop Katos now for gaming. They're definitely not as good as the 900 Pro X but it is a lot more comfortable and doesn't give me a dent. Looking for better IEMs but may check out the 1990.

    • @tyrexuk
      @tyrexuk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I also just got the dt 900 pro x , and im really stuck between either getting the ifi zen dac v2 (mostly becuse the bass boost, and primarly for gaming use)
      OR going for the, magni-unity DAC/AMP, As nice as these headphones are i'm very used to quite high bass from my old ones. any advice for either amp/dac is welcome!

  • @AnearPlayz
    @AnearPlayz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    6:00 Thank you so much for the explanation, I've been trying to find out what were the differences between them. A++ comparison!

  • @Silver-h5d
    @Silver-h5d 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Totally relate to what you're saying. I have the ifi audio Zen DAC V2 stacked with the Zen Can Amp with the 4.4mm balanced interconnect and have the Audeze LCD-GX wired to the Zen Can via the stock 3.5mm cable. Works perfectly on my PS5 and MacBook Air (for Apple Music and Netflix) and I totally agree, the audio quality is like nothing I have ever heard before. I use to own the HD800S but found them too revealing, quite sterile and lacking in bass and the LCD-X which were awesome but too uncomfortable to wear for long gaming sessions at >600g. I think I've reached end game with my current set up - at least for top end gaming audio.

  • @projectc1rca048
    @projectc1rca048 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm looking into getting the Sennheiser HD560S and pairing it with my Schiit Hel 2 gaming dac/amp for fps games. I've heard good things about those headphones in terms of its great audio cues and neutral sound in general. Great video my guy.

    • @adamstern5116
      @adamstern5116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d recommend the Drop X Sennheiser 6xx’s . That’s what I use with my Hel 2 for PS5 and it also works awesome with Xbox! For the true setup I recommend pairing it all with a Woojer Vest Edge to really feel that bass!

    • @DDHDTV
      @DDHDTV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      560s ja a great choice

    • @Tripokaridos22
      @Tripokaridos22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have both of them , HD 560s are better for gaming and HD 650 are waaaaay better for Stereo music.

  • @znorx87
    @znorx87 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought an ifi zen dac V2 fo my gaming set up after watching this video. Im now thinking to pair it with the mobius. Thanks man, your videos are great to watch, there is so much details! keep up the good work.

    • @afroditta6950
      @afroditta6950 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't think it will make a difference for Mobius since those are gaming headsets that already have a dac integrated. It might actually sound worse.

  • @school_pizza
    @school_pizza 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is perfect timing as I’m getting an AKG K702 and a Schiit stack tomorrow

    • @KZ_drift
      @KZ_drift 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats pretty shiity

    • @garnhamr
      @garnhamr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i was really happy with the k702. it doesn't have a huge amount of bass but everything else about it is brilliant and i found them to be perfect for positional audio for games. they broke and i changed to some phillips fidelio x2hr. more bass but the k702 is definately better in every other way.

  • @astrotube3967
    @astrotube3967 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for a great video covering the amp & Dacs, I found it really helpful.
    I just purchased the GC7 to connect to my NVIDIA shield for watching movies on a night time and it sounds pretty decent with the standard surround simulation (not the sxfi crap), and I love that I can adjust the treble and base to my liking on the fly.
    I’m curious about the ifi zen dac/amp and but I want to have that wide open feel that the virtual 7.1 gives with the GC7.
    But to do with with something like the ifi zen. I would then need to buy a high end headphone with a big sound stage and imaging.
    So it looks like I’m stuck with my GC7 & Sennheiser PC38x combo.

  • @paulnguyen843
    @paulnguyen843 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I love how you explain things

  • @markdunmore4811
    @markdunmore4811 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Brilliant now I understand amp Dac brilliant very educational thanks 👍👍👍

  • @driftwize
    @driftwize 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I use the GC7 with Beyerdynamic MMX 300 Gen 2s and its really great, i hear things i never heard before in games like Tarkov, massive upgrade from my A40 with Mixamp, would recommend the upgrade to anyone willing to spend the cash!

    • @Chris.Cliver
      @Chris.Cliver 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drift do you think it’s the headphones or the amp that is the difference? Can you compare the new headphones without the amp. I’m specifically and exclusively interested in the difference in what you hear in Tarkov. I upgraded from wireless closed ear turtle beach stealth 700s to open ear wired sennheiser HD 560s but I’m not running an amp/dac currently. I’m wondering if adding that would also make a noticeable difference in Tarkov.

    • @driftwize
      @driftwize 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Chris.Cliver hi! I definitely think its the combination of the both, as i’ve not tried them without the amp i could not say for sure, all i can say for certain is the combo i use has amazing clarity and crispness compared to the A40 TRs with Mixamp Pro, i find myself hearing people in Tarkov way before they hear me, its that good i sometimes second guess myself actually hearing something! Also with the amp you have good EQ customization which you can also use to enhance many things such as gunshots, footsteps etc

    • @nate5211
      @nate5211 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hey i know it's been 2 years since your comment but I'm currently thinking of getting that exact setup. I currently am using the astro a40s gen 3with the mix amp. How has the mmx 300 been for you and also the gc7? is the gc7 similar to the astro mixamp?

    • @driftwize
      @driftwize 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@nate5211Hi! i have long since got new equipment, but the MMX300 is probably still the best gaming headset money can buy imo, the GC7 is also very good and plenty of features if you require them, i would definitely still use them:)

    • @seanoconnor3997
      @seanoconnor3997 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Love my mmx300. I. Using it with the astro mixamp but I'm looking to upgrade to a dac amp. Think it's worth the purchase or should I stick with the astro mixamp?

  • @e234darkrock
    @e234darkrock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Recently also bought ifi audio zen dac v2 +IpowerX+HD650S
    I have the same feelings as you~ In the past, I only focused on gaming headsets and DACs
    Now I have used products like IFI~ It really is a completely different world~
    Incredibly beautiful!!
    There is no need for any EQ adjustment at all~ It is very pleasant to use on my FF XIV and R6.

    • @snowwfps
      @snowwfps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm planning to get the same setup with the same headphones. Really excited.

    • @Tripokaridos22
      @Tripokaridos22 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is no HD 650s ... there is HD 560s or HD660s or HD 650

    • @e234darkrock
      @e234darkrock 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Tripokaridos22 I made a mistake. I did ask 560s. Sorry...

    • @blueknight7100
      @blueknight7100 ปีที่แล้ว

      What you recommend for gaming ( hearing footsteps clearly ) and some music

  • @markotesic
    @markotesic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've seen the new "Ifi Zen Dac v2" which supposedly is the dac AND amp, right? Will that be enough to power and run my dt990's?

    • @Princeton_James
      @Princeton_James 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's just the dac. You'll need the amp as well. Yes its more than enough to push the DT990.

    • @johncole4882
      @johncole4882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@Princeton_James wrong

    • @johncole4882
      @johncole4882 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Princeton_James it inlcludes an internal amp

    • @MrHandsomeStudios
      @MrHandsomeStudios 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The first and second version of Ifi Zen Dac are both a dac and amp. I'm new to amp and dacs so I don't know if you would need the stack for dt990's.

    • @nathanhammes2445
      @nathanhammes2445 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I just got 990s recently .. Curious what you’ve learned in the past few months and if you have any recommendations. Thanks!

  • @mtnmankeith9069
    @mtnmankeith9069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can use the optical out of a sound blasterx g6 into any dac of your choice and take advantage of the dsp from the g6 and get the sound quality from the higher end dac/amp that you’re using.

    • @kendil22
      @kendil22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you're using optical just use the one built into most motherboards, the signal is exactly the same. Use the G6 as a dac and run it into an amp would make a lot more sense, or just get rid of it.

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No. What you need as an ASUS HDAV 1.3 Deluxe card with the 6-channel daughter board.
    You feed the 8 analog channels into a 7.1 surround NAD amplifier.
    You tap off the front two channels to a NAD 2600 Power Amp.
    You tap off the center channel to another NAD 2600 and you bi-wire and bi-amp the center speaker.
    Send the sub channel out to the powered subwoofer.
    You let the 7.1 amp handle the surround channels and the rear channels.
    Then you've got the most kickass sound it is possible to achieve on a PC. Period.

  • @criptocolorlightstech5292
    @criptocolorlightstech5292 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    how do we connect the amp and dac to the xbox series x please help me ''''

  • @SonuKumar-pl4yh
    @SonuKumar-pl4yh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Audio Technica ATH M50X vs Blackshark V2.
    Which is more good for gaming and clear.

    • @1.l.h
      @1.l.h 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you play fps games possibly look into the ath-ad700x

    • @recommendations8644
      @recommendations8644 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sennheiser Hd58x

  • @macaroshusgaming683
    @macaroshusgaming683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I use the Steel Series Pro wired w/gamedac. I love them. I might get the wireless pro just for when I want to move away from my desk.

    • @shutdown8230
      @shutdown8230 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      but the wireless pro doesnt sound that good like the wired version with dac

    • @macaroshusgaming683
      @macaroshusgaming683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shutdown8230 I would still use my wired for when I'm at my desk but my wireless for when I need to be mobile.

  • @drewnashty
    @drewnashty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Would Sony MDR'7506's benefit from a DAC/AMP setup? They are only 63ohm

  • @setoman1
    @setoman1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not sure why you'd want one. The embedded DAC in your headphone dongle, is more than sufficient. Semi-conductor industry hasn't been twiddling their thumbs for the last 50 years! And unless you're sticking with puzzle games, you're gonna want the shortest latency possible, even if it negatively impacts fidelity. In competitive play, 10ms is a very long time. And as far as my understanding of the human brain goes, we rely heavily on our ears for timing.

    • @flyingintervation4188
      @flyingintervation4188 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very interesting man. So DAC is a no what about an amp?

  • @smellycatgamingofficial
    @smellycatgamingofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which amp/dac would you recommend for a ps5? Or should I just buy a gaming headset like a steelseries arctis nova pro instead?

  • @kamjam8428
    @kamjam8428 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My fulla 4 has been on backorder for a few weeks☹️

    • @TheTechne
      @TheTechne  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My Fulla 4 won’t connect anymore :(

    • @pc_decisions8764
      @pc_decisions8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I change my mind when i saw the delivery time and got a qudelix 5k instead. I wanted to be the btr5 but it doesn't support mic on usb mode.

  • @BertVisser-es5ev
    @BertVisser-es5ev 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just buy the Qudelix 5K. Great small portable dac amp. With great eq software. It's super that they work on the usb a port from your ps5. Set your eq with a smartphone and your good to go. They have bluetooth so you can stream to the dac and enjoy high quality sound on the go or at home 💪🏼

  • @davisterisboss3387
    @davisterisboss3387 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just picked up the CREATIVE Sound Blaster GC7 for 45% off.
    Been on my radar for awhile now. Also purchased 80ohm Beyer Dynamics DT 990 pros.
    Ive been using sonar and have had nothing but audio issues with the software.
    The directional software had been an absolute nightmare, at least in my experience.
    Tarkov is my main game and I always have had issues with my iems, pinpointing footsteps. Hopefully I made the right choice!

    • @c10udi92
      @c10udi92 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Any updated?

    • @davisterisboss3387
      @davisterisboss3387 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @c10udi92 decided to go with the seinheiser hd560s instead. The treble was ear piercing on the 990 pros. But kept the gc7 just due to the price at the time and its solid if you combine it with Voicemeeter Banana

  • @TheNinja4
    @TheNinja4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    got the SHIIT STACK! hmmmmm love it

  • @Juice_VI
    @Juice_VI 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Did you recently start recording in 4K? It looks extra crispy today!

    • @TheTechne
      @TheTechne  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Have been. But had a diff angle, not sure if that was it

  • @macleod1592
    @macleod1592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Need it? Nah. Really want it? Yeah. If for no other reason than you've got a lot more power pushing those cans and that means a lot more dynamics and overall better SQ.

  • @xxsirxfuryxx6122
    @xxsirxfuryxx6122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can't emphasize enough how important is good audio for competitive gaming, I'm a pro FPS player, and most of the time, I just turn around and click the enemies head just because I know exactly where they are, because of the good audio system, thanks to the techne ofc who reviewed almost every single device that I have

    • @beebread._.m8
      @beebread._.m8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      specs?

    • @xxsirxfuryxx6122
      @xxsirxfuryxx6122 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@beebread._.m8 I'm using Beyerdynamic dt880 32ohm with a Creative sound blaster GC7

    • @Obito_RL
      @Obito_RL ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xxsirxfuryxx6122 do you use surround sound in fps games or do you use just the stereo of the headphones. What's best for locating enemies?

    • @PowZii
      @PowZii ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Obito_RLsurround sound is the enemy if you’re playing competitive imo.

  • @ironhidehbi9145
    @ironhidehbi9145 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the information and have the arctis pro already with dac and getting some iem. Can just plug them into the dac so is it worth getting a separate dac ?

  • @Jaskol_Wazon
    @Jaskol_Wazon 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for picking up my setup :) iFi CAN/DAC is an amazing combo for the price. I've tried things twice as expensive and they did not sound that great. It's a neat, not so pricey setup that works wonders.

  • @gyurmagyuri6440
    @gyurmagyuri6440 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nice video

  • @kamilmania792
    @kamilmania792 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Wow having watched your video I think I'll post a proper video about audio. Your Outlook on the Gc7 is so wrong. It's Akm dac inside can handle a whole load. More than you seem to know and the amp inside the Gc7 can easily push 300ohm cans. With all respect you need to inform yourself.

  • @YOGA47
    @YOGA47 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now a days phone don't have aux so dac is now more important

  • @anddo24
    @anddo24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use the HiFiMAN Sundara+Schiit Hel-2. The combo sounds cleaner than any pair of gaming headsets I own.
    I wouldn't dare to go higher-end until I buy my own home. I don't live in a open back headphone friendly environment. So investing in higher-end would be a waste.
    One day though....

    • @Tripokaridos22
      @Tripokaridos22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Honestly i have - had headphone to 1.500 price , like Elear, LCD 2, Clear, etch etch and i Use only 2 , Sundara and HD 660s both of them are like 95% of what others can do and honestly on some aspects are better, For example Nothing can win the Smooth , Warm , vocals, timbre , imaging on HD 660s under 1.500 euro and nothing can win , Separation , speed , tonality , resolution, low end texture that Sundara . So no don buy anything else its just a minor win on something and lose on something else. My opinion is if u are on US get the HD6XX or HD 650 in Europe to have something different than SUndara , something warmer smoother .

    • @kendil22
      @kendil22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The schiit Hel is pretty solid, it doesn't put out the power of a Magni 3 but it's no slouch.

  • @erichagele
    @erichagele 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love how practical and simple your videos are! Would you say this investment is worth it versus say the Razer Blackshark V2 Wireless headset? It seems like a steep price to pay for an incremental increase in quality and the hassle of wires. Thanks!

    • @TheTechne
      @TheTechne  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love and still use gaming headsets daily, and I love wireless! but yes the quality diff is amazing, but that also come with a fair price increase

    • @erichagele
      @erichagele 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheTechne Thanks for the reply! Your videos are so down to earth and refreshing in a crowded and complex tech review world. Love the "how does it actually perform in real life" approach. Just subscribed! Keep it up brother. :)

  • @Saltygloves
    @Saltygloves ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey buddy
    Im lookin to upgrade my audio setup for playstation5 (maybe in the future pc, so thinking alteady about to buy something for pc as well). Im almost only playing fps and open world. Would you recomment the ifi amp and dac with the beyerdynamicdt 1990 for the playstation? Will that work ? And do i need both? I mean amp and dac?…
    I actually ordered the maxwells, but i think i prefer the open back and want something really good…

  • @milos9567
    @milos9567 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @TheTechne can you please answer me, is the sound blasterx g6 good enough for headphones like the 250 ohm dt 770 pro x or is another amp necessary? Thanks a lot

  • @Games_and_Tech
    @Games_and_Tech 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the comparison. For someone with the Sennheiser hd600. Which amp/dac will you recommend for a 70 gaming / 30 music

    • @kendil22
      @kendil22 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Schiit Hel or mayflower arc if you need a mic input, schiit modi\magni stack if you don't. JDS makes some good stuff too, like the Atom series if you want $200 or less. Once you get over $200 there's a ton of options and most are pretty good, you'd have to do some research to find the one for you.

  • @kaina3.0
    @kaina3.0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    should I get an audio mixer and a amp and connect them together or should I just get the amp or audio mixer

  • @gabsriel
    @gabsriel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you nailed it :-] it seems that the Motu audio interfaces may be "the best of both worlds" regarding measurements
    Perso I like to experiment and I'm very happy these days with the E1DA Powerdac V2.1, outstanding for the price.

  • @minggthemerciless
    @minggthemerciless 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    as a fellow dorky white guy who loves Wu tang.......respect

    • @TheTechne
      @TheTechne  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol, man I have seen them live a few times also, big fan

  • @afeefanwar5419
    @afeefanwar5419 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Keep it up man I always love your videos

  • @MrMeagher1998
    @MrMeagher1998 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just bought the dac v2 for gaming hope they go good with my hd6xx

  • @miketoulouse7815
    @miketoulouse7815 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Techne. I wonder if I can get your opinion on something as I do respect it. I watch a lot of your reviews. I recently bought a set of Beyerdynamic 2nd gen mmx300 gaming headphones. I know that they are a stereo headphone. But Beyerdynamic states that the experience is much better with the Immerse Gaming software. My question is... would virtual surround or spatial audio still work with an amp or dac or possibly both connected? Not sure if you will even see this but if you do have an opinion I would love to hear it. Thanks.

  • @SweetLead
    @SweetLead 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have Sennheiser HD 660S + iFi audio NEO iDSD + Beyerdynamic FOX for gaming and TIDAL. Never going back to gaming headset again. I know it's more expensive but the sound in music and games is so clear and precise.

    • @pc_decisions8764
      @pc_decisions8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It gaves me feelings looking a fox mic with tygr300r and knowing that hd560s run better for games than hd660s(still funnier in music) in my experience.

    • @SweetLead
      @SweetLead 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pc_decisions8764 fox mic is more than enough even for big names on youtube, I use fox mostly for voice chat in discord when I play games with my team. The Sennheiser HD 560S are slightly better for neutral listening than the Sennheiser HD 660 S. The HD 560S have a better-balanced bass and treble range, a more natural soundstage, and a more comfortable fit. However, the HD 660 S are better-built, deliver a slightly more neutral mid-range, and provide superior stereo imaging performance.

  • @srikantmishra2950
    @srikantmishra2950 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice n detailed video.. 👍

  • @WockySlushHaze215
    @WockySlushHaze215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do a video on how you set it up on Xbox

  • @sheeplord4976
    @sheeplord4976 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was gonna get an amp/dac stack, but I also needed analog-in.

  • @xxxx-ow3rl
    @xxxx-ow3rl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey teche, for gaming I can only buy one of the ifi. Would you recommend the amp or dac ? I play only fps

    • @TheTechne
      @TheTechne  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      amp for sure

    • @xxxx-ow3rl
      @xxxx-ow3rl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheTechne thank you!

    • @boredaliensclub4416
      @boredaliensclub4416 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@TheTechne can i get ifi zen air which has both dac and amp? For dt770 pro 80 ohm.

  • @Evo_mufc
    @Evo_mufc ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the dt990’s with soundblaster g6, upgrading to the ifi zen dac and amp will it make much difference?

    • @princesmith8008
      @princesmith8008 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you using that setup for PC or console??

    • @Evo_mufc
      @Evo_mufc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@princesmith8008 pc mate

    • @princesmith8008
      @princesmith8008 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Evo_mufc And what is the impedance of your Beyer cans? Is it more than 80 ohms??

    • @Evo_mufc
      @Evo_mufc ปีที่แล้ว

      @@princesmith8008 yeah they’re the 250ohm ones

    • @princesmith8008
      @princesmith8008 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Evo_mufc Well in that case, G6 is more than enough. It can comfortably drive these cans without any issue, you don't need anything more.
      I'm using them with my Fidelio X2HR

  • @2828moises
    @2828moises 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So do u need to have the amp to use the Dac or can u just use the dac

  • @skyeait5939
    @skyeait5939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its hard to convey to someone that hasn't experienced high end systems even with descriptive words what is going on. Its hard for the vast majority to spend more on the audio than their console. PC with its other advantages and larger expense it probably would easier to digest.

  • @V1king_Storm
    @V1king_Storm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    when using a dac like in this video is it better have dolby atmos/dts on or everythin off? just wondered on ur setup that gets u the best sound for gaming music etc as a whole? thank you

  • @khaled_2249
    @khaled_2249 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thanks for making this video, I bought the LCD-GX which got me started with this audiophile hobby. Makes me want to literally buy every amp/dac just to test them all 🤣 because all reviews be like these are good!. Your explanation gives a simplified way to understand the differences

  • @erikjoyner7767
    @erikjoyner7767 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I rock a Sennheiser GSX 1000 with my PC38X

    • @3T0EDSL0TH
      @3T0EDSL0TH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you like it? I just got the PC38X and just ordered the Fulla. Hope that works!

  • @rajendrabiswas
    @rajendrabiswas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am
    Going to get a dedicated DAC like mdac plus or rega r DAC for movies but schit hel design alwys makes me want that

  • @AdamOwens33
    @AdamOwens33 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought the audeze lcd-gx and Ifi stack because of your reviews. Thank you.
    Only problem is, I can’t find any info on how to properly set them up… I have the 4.4mm connector connecting the can and dac but other than that, fixed or variable switch on the back? Do I use the balanced or unbalanced cable to my headset, I have another stand alone mic that I use. Also which input setting to use?

    • @afroditta6950
      @afroditta6950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't connect mics to ifi stack, you'll have to plug them in your source if it's usb. Fixed - when connecting the ifi DAC to ifi AMP, Variable if you want to use ifi DAC as both dac and amp. Balanced vs unbalanced doesn't really matter, balanced just gives you a bit more power.

  • @Tripokaridos22
    @Tripokaridos22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Open world Games i use Sundara , Single player games i use HD 660s ...Both of them on iFi Micro Black . Way better than any Game headset i have ever hear .

  • @RetroX-uu6cq
    @RetroX-uu6cq 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hopefully somebody here can answer my question..
    Can you use any one of these amps on your Xbox series x?? USB plug and play?
    If so can you do it with the combo?

    • @mtnmankeith9069
      @mtnmankeith9069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Astro mixamp is the only dac/amp that you can use with usb with Xbox one series x.

    • @RetroX-uu6cq
      @RetroX-uu6cq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mtnmankeith9069 that's what I thought LOL.. would that be a good Amp for something like the LCD GX?

    • @EdgeOfDarkness86
      @EdgeOfDarkness86 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RetroX-uu6cq No the Astro Mixamp is pretty bad

  • @hong_1712
    @hong_1712 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if i like play FPS game? i want buy some external soundcard that can plug in hyperx cloud earbuds. i love to hear some detail of the footsteps

  • @Mike-ru7qd
    @Mike-ru7qd 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video , I have bought exactly this set up ifi zen can / dac / Audeze lcd gx . I’m
    Just need to know how connected them 😅. It would be great if you mentioned in the video .

  • @exit_hero2230
    @exit_hero2230 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Digital audio converter digital audio converter digital audio converter digital audio converter..I love how he says he's sick of hearing dac. yet he explains the exact definition of a dac. to clean up the sound make it smooth as butter with the headphones speakers etc. I'd never just get an amp and the jumble and jargon of just an amp..sorry too hard to follow u..I'd recommend some adderal my friend take care

  • @kristophersouza8104
    @kristophersouza8104 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol stop dude. You know damn well you don’t need a dedicated amp or DAC for gaming. “I plugged it in and it was so clear. Then I plugged it into this $800 unit and it was MORE clear!!” Nice affiliate links, tho.

  • @bazurk_dot_com
    @bazurk_dot_com 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you schill a gaming chair you loose credibility. Sorry bro. Worst purchase ever.. get a good comfty office chair and save yourself some overpriced back pains.

  • @yousefa6143
    @yousefa6143 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ok i have DT 1990 PRO , what should i buy ? DAC or AMP ?

  • @gamerguildhd3529
    @gamerguildhd3529 ปีที่แล้ว

    to all those who are wondering whether you actually NEED a DAC/AMP combo? the answer is NO, you do not need it, the difference in sound quality we're talking about here is like a 1-2% change, yeah its not even an improvement. I mean the company literally calls its products 'Fulla Schiit' like a big FU to the consumers...

  • @Clickarn93
    @Clickarn93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello I am a competetive fps player and I want a dac/amp that has really low latency and good sound. Which one should I buy for my sennheiser 800s?

  • @BigNast
    @BigNast 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @thetechne hey man, is this info still relevant or are there any new products in this category you'd recommend. Thanks bro.

  • @jaycranmer2001
    @jaycranmer2001 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the chord mojo 2 sound better than the ifi Amp dac combo

  • @RazeEdge
    @RazeEdge ปีที่แล้ว

    If I was to buy the ifi can or dac first which would you recommend? I also have a scarlett 2i2 to go through.

    • @RazeEdge
      @RazeEdge ปีที่แล้ว

      For gaming where I need footsteps

  • @bigmarlatty4868
    @bigmarlatty4868 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is very informational and im in the process of upgrading my setup....i do plan on getting a stack of some sort but how would i incorporate it with my elgato xlr or would it be no need?

  • @brianmateosantiago7508
    @brianmateosantiago7508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right now I’m rocking the Hifiman Ananda with the Singxer SA-1 amp & Singxer SDA-6 dac. It’s a buttery smooth combo. 👌🏽

    • @mmorales508
      @mmorales508 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's endgame right there my friend 👌👌👌👌

  • @aznative4056
    @aznative4056 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does the sound blaster G6 compare to the ifi amp and dac

  • @covile41
    @covile41 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I NEED THAT SHIRT BRO

  • @c10udi92
    @c10udi92 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So if I have the Astro mix amp, can I just use that in conjunction with other headsets/headphones?

  • @rajendrabiswas
    @rajendrabiswas 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot to mention chord mojo a new mojo is coming up on feb ..

  • @Poppi3579
    @Poppi3579 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can you compare the ifi stack to the astro a40 and steel series wired pro game dac? is it worth upgrading to the ifi? my goal is to upgrade from the headsets i mentioned to the HD660s or Audeze lcd -gx

  • @pc_decisions8764
    @pc_decisions8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use my Qudelix 5k with my PC38X on Harman Objective EQ (does support PEQ)... it bluetooth and smol, so i can take phone calls without disconnecting my dac or headset and i can do gaming on aptx adaptive( less than 30ms latency) for gaming on phone... a SS tier feature-packed dac amp for 110 usd compared to stella zorloo, Fulla 4 or THX Onyx, even if ended paying 300usd for my combo, if you dont need the headset just get a tygr300r or hd560s

    • @pc_decisions8764
      @pc_decisions8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cadalackTony i highly recommend an amp, even cheap ones like fosi, I use thx or jdslabs

    • @pc_decisions8764
      @pc_decisions8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cadalackTony rather than clearer...you gain more life in the headphones and the first you notice is the bass. It happened to me with my hd6xx where bass improves noticeble better and dinamic range goes even better (footsteps, gunshots, explosions, etc.)

    • @pc_decisions8764
      @pc_decisions8764 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cadalackTony personally I would go for tygr300r and fosi because fosi is a better combo and tygr is more fun headphone, hd560s is true reference so its really precise and clear but feels a bit like headphones for mastering

    • @3T0EDSL0TH
      @3T0EDSL0TH 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you think the Fulla is all you need for the PC38X?

  • @rua893
    @rua893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍 i love your videos ..

  • @s123pongebob
    @s123pongebob 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im using a SBX G6 with a pair of hifiman sundara closed back right now. would the ifi stack be a noticeable upgrade?

  • @BigEightiesNewWave
    @BigEightiesNewWave 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A $20 Soundblaster Play!3 will make a world of difference.

  • @soppingclam
    @soppingclam ปีที่แล้ว

    With the MSI z690 Wifi Gaming Edge with the AL4080 USB DAC using standalone circuitry test found to be better than most AMP/DACs including Creative G6. Using front mic port the 32bit 384hz with audio boost 5 pumps. now external DAC really not needed. Unreal but true

  • @icecole2537
    @icecole2537 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello i currently have the sennheiser hd 599 and also audio technica ath ad 500x. What kind of set up should i use. I currently plug them right into my pc but i want that next step up of sound. I want to make them sound better so looking for suggestions on what i should get?

  • @Agathorn
    @Agathorn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    With DAC you need to connect to optical output i guess? I use xbox from my couch and my cats EAT cords so I cant run a 8 foot cord from my TV/Xbox I’m afraid. With an amp can you connect it to the xbox controller using 3,5 mm and power it from a wall outlet?

  • @holdonL
    @holdonL ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant find a proper dac/amp for my oneodio monitor 80 and vmoda boompro. very few have a separate mic input, and those that have are way expensive for me

  • @donnyutivich8196
    @donnyutivich8196 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the steel series artics pro, beyerdynamic MMX 300, and massdropxsennheiser HD58x for gaming on my pc desktop. Any recommendations for a dac/amp for these headsets. would the SCHiit stack be overkill for this or just fine?

  • @blainelanahan7269
    @blainelanahan7269 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is far too complicated, and even more expensive, I feel like I would get lost, can you just send me your least used setup?

  • @blueninjanoname7338
    @blueninjanoname7338 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use the DT 770 80 ohm, not sure if getting an amp/dac will improve my audio or the on board pc hardware is enough 🤔

    • @princesmith8008
      @princesmith8008 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 80 ohm version of the DT770 can don't necessarily need any amplification, it can be easily driven through your PC.
      However, an amp-dac will always improve the sound no matter which headphones you're using.

    • @Draxzyxz
      @Draxzyxz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@princesmith8008 I’m looking at getting the dt 990 80 ohm or 250ohm to use with my ps5 do I need a amp or Dac?

    • @princesmith8008
      @princesmith8008 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Draxzyxz Well it depends...
      If you go for the 250 ohm version, then yes, you will need a dac-amp to drive it. However, if you get the 80 ohm version, then there's is no need as 80 ohm headphones aren't that hard to drive.
      But like I mentioned in my previous comment, a dac-amp will ALWAYS improve the audio quality of whatever you use.
      I'm using DT900 Pro X headphones with SoundblasterX G6 (which is an excellent dac-amp) connected with my PS5 and it works like magic.

  • @G.Santos1904
    @G.Santos1904 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought dt 900 pro x with the zen dac v2 .. should ill buy the zen can aswell ?

  • @itzsparks8519
    @itzsparks8519 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the question i have is how do you hear yourself in audiofile headphones? if i use an xlr mic where does that go?

  • @TheGheddon
    @TheGheddon 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No

  • @RealShakeanbake
    @RealShakeanbake 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can u please explain a way for streamers. I have goxlr mini but I notice a huge difference in audio from my fiio K5 pro in my 1990 Bear Dynamics. Is it possible to have the best of both worlds use the clean audio of these great dac amp with goxlr or wavexlr.

  • @ganshengkai7060
    @ganshengkai7060 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, I need help. I usually direct plug in my headphone to PC and use Sound Blaster Cinema 3 software while playing FPS games. It has surround effect and right positional.
    But when I switch my iFi Zen DAC/Amp + Zen CAN Amp (Stack),
    Sound Blaster Cinema 3 software auto-disable. There is no surround effect and the positional feels very weird which only has left and right positional.
    So how to get surround effect and right positional while using external DAC AMP? (except those dac amps come with surround sound like sound blaster x3)
    Or is it there is no way as getting an external DAC would mean no surround sound for movies and gaming, just stereo 2-channel sound?

  • @jaycranmer2001
    @jaycranmer2001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do audio interfaces soind better than dac/amp combos? As im looking at the rme ucx ii audio interface.