Kevin Sanchez is rated 18th in the country and is he number one texas runner. i know him personally. Even other schools cheer for him just to see a great runner come out of texas
@Bradley Mitchellmaybe, but he doesn't appear to be having the clearest of thoughts and it was a state champ at his biggest race of the season, the kids fast enough to beat most college runners on their off days.
4:14 Dude if someone cheered for me like the guy who yells “Let’s go Jack! Go give it to ‘em, son!” I’m pretty sure I could lift a car off the ground with my bare hands.
Y'all might be romanticizing sports dad. Sometimes it's just love and support. Sometimes if Jack doesn't "get em," he gets beat. I heard an edge in that voice that chilled me.
@@adamo2359 I don’t think just being a sub 4 miler dqs you from being beaten at the HS level. I would say it’s likely that he just got beat by a HS athlete.
As a former college XC and track runner I'd love to be able to compete in some races again in an open/alumni field. I'd never dress up and pretend to be a student though.....thats weird/cringe as fuck lol
He jumped in at around 800m. He didn't come in from the neighborhood. About 2 minutes before the start, I saw him in spikes and a uniform in the grass by where the course loops back on itself. I didn't know it was Hebert at the time, just weird that this guy was standing way away from the start in spikes. I didn't see him jump in, but based on where he was standing and the video, if you look at the course map, he jumped in on the section where the course does a close U before going back around the lake.
@@RunnerBoi Yep. I think he started out there for two reasons. First it was far enough away from the start where there were only a handful of spectators in that spot. Any closer and people were lining the course. Second, if you look at the map, the 2mile course intersects with the 5k course, so there was an opening without flags or gates to mark off the course. So an easy part to dip into the race. He was just hanging out in that area for 5-10min before the race started doing drills.
I am honestly laughing at the fact that someone actually did this. Like holy smokes. My buddies and I have cracked jokes about doing this (we coach high school), but never did we intend on actually doing this. Absolutely crazy this happened. I feel bad for the kids.
@@seanmiller292 did you really need to bring that into this? Firstly, women are better than men at long distance running and secondly, if trans women had some kind of big advantage over cis women, why don't we see trans women dominating every sport they're in?
@@thegatekeeperm8183 Oh yes, it needs to be brought up. Cheating is cheating, the idiocracy needs to be brought up at every turn. PS you are lying men dominate women in running at any distance (10 to 12 percent on average)... Sorry if your feels get hurt but the truth is the truth. The reason they're not winning every event is because as I've already explained you aren't exactly getting the cream of the crop so if you would like to discuss having a men's division and an open division we can do that but you're still erasing females...
Theres some fast high school kids out there. I was a college runner but i wasnt that great. my 5k is 16:10 but theres local high schoolers running low to mid 15 minutes in my town and theres no way i can beat them guys.
@@jondagamer4466 well yeah i mean there’s hs kids who have ran sub 4 and some who are v close to it, and kids who run sub 14 on flat and sub 14:30 even on hilly but the college runner doesn’t look anywhere near to be tired and looks like he went on a light jog
For one, I'm glad the kid that won was able to catch him, from his response it sounds like he saw something that threw him off or frustrated him (maybe he saw him pop out of the neighborhood or he trolled him or something). Also, this is inexcusable because there was an organized run in downtown Austin on Sunday, 10 miler, so plenty of races for adults in the area
@@andypham1636 I think it’s kind of funny, and the fact he let the winner win is good sportsmanship. The guy should get fined or have some kind of penalty but no jail time and plus he really did something in the distance community 😂
I ran that meet, and I personally had no idea who he was either. I know pretty much every person who is capable of placing top 10 at state, but had no clue who this person was
I have a couple of friends who ran that meet, but I could not see this unfold in person as my state meet was a couple weeks before. I will say I would have never expected something like this >10 miles away from my house. If you wanted to see the angle from some of the runners there I would be happy to help
I've seen some alternative footage, but I'm dying to see if anyone has footage of him entering the pack lmao. I genuinely have no clue how he managed to do that. I contacted the kid that mentioned where he came from, but he didn't get back to me sadly.
@@RunnerBoi I have not heard back from my friends yet but I found this video which makes it look like he entered the race from the neighborhood th-cam.com/video/dRijbuweuns/w-d-xo.html
This is the first time I’m able to say, I was there. Was at State to support a teammate and Kevin Sanchez passed him at the 2.25 mile marker… going up hill…
For me, I wouldn't really care and I actually find it a bit funny, but not at a state meet. If he did this at a random tri meet that no one really cares about it would be kind of funny, but states is taken so seriously that he could've messed up someone's pace or mindset
and you are whats wrong with society. keep thinking the likes you get mean something because they dont. you live on the internet where its not the real world and you think something liek this is a joke
@@twilightresonance1789Interesting. I think a big issue is people who get very upset online and are internet moral police. Let me ask you this, who do you actually help? Whose lives are better because of you? Sitting on your phone morally demeaning people may make you feel good about yourself but that does absolutely nothing positive in this world. This guy didn’t hurt anyone, idc.
My team captain ran in this ran his name is Thierry Garcon and he placed 21st he said he saw Hebert during the race and was very confused bc he recognized him from UT as he just visited the campus and talked to the coach.
Perhaps as a cross country runner, this is the 'weirdest'. However for other running events there have been plenty of other stranger incidents Including multiple people who entered marathons but cheated (I think one woman took a public bus, until she was only a couple miles from the finishing line, and then entered to 'win'. Also the strangest case of a runner is James Hogue. His life and scandals are covered in the Podcast: Swindled Titled: The Ivy Leaguer (Esther Reed / James Hogue). He is a former Kansas State Champion Two Miler. He went on at age 26 to commit identity theft and enroll at Palo Alto High School as a full time student/athlete competing in various high school races.
I just discovered your channel and I'm glad one like it exists. Not enough people are covering running compared to the huge amount of people who participate in it, so it's nice to see quality videos about running events that even non-runners can appreciate. It's obvious that you know what you're doing so keep it up and I'm sure your channel will be on the scale of Total Running Productions in no time!
You say that no other athlete was affected, but it's perfectly possible that other runners blew their race trying to keep pace with him. Some of the runners will have trained all year for this, so it was a doubly shitty thing to do.
It's always nice to discover a new channel that focuses on cheating scandals. I'm not a huge sports fan but I'm always happy to gawk at their dirty laundry.
I have a friend who also did this. He was 20-21 and jumped into the California state meet. He somehow snuck in but half way during the race got yelled at then someone grabbed him and pulled him out lol.
I think it’s crazy how every time something like this happens the media and everyone pretends to care about high school cross country for 15 minutes. The guy is a weirdo for doing this but this could absolutely happen in big meets in my state and no one would give a shit because it’s high school cross country.
Let’s think critically about this though. This dude was able to basically hop into a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP meet (the literal biggest one of the year) undetected. This is a security risk that needs to be addressed with more flaggers on the course. No nothing severe happened; just some weirdo living out his dream of running the state meet for a second time, BUT something crazy COULD HAVE happened.. this is honestly embarrassing on the UIL’s part. Maybe this dude did them a favor and they’ll implement something to keep things like this or even more severe from happening in the future.
How was Sanchez's race "tainted"? He crossed the finish line first and legitimately won the title. Just because this clown sneaked into the race, for whatever reason, it didn't affect Sanchez's result. He merely managed to garner some of the attention afterwards. If I were Sanchez, I'd just laugh it off.
I agree. Had he held on to "beat" Sanchez, I could see the anger. Or maybe the third place guy who initially thought he was fourth should be mad. But Sanchez should be happy. He beat the cheater outright.
Yeah, I was there! I’m fairly certain that he snuck in around the first mile mark. The course winded around for the last 2 miles but was fairly straight for the first mile. Because of that most people cheered the runners on over the last 2 miles so they could catch them 3-4 times but there were less people present over the first mile, making it fairly easy to slip in without any coaches noticing.
Years ago, I went to a park nearby to run and there was a meet going on there. It was near the end of the day, and all that was left was a boys' JV race. I let them start, waited about 10 minutes, then began running the course. I was just kind-of jogging and not doing anything hard--I think I was about 30 years old at the time. As luck would have it, some of those JV runners were really slow and I caught up to them, even being 10 minutes behind. I was wearing a walkman and no uniform and training flats, so people knew I was not in high school. Several people shouted at me, even though I was staying to the outside and not interfering with the race. But I felt really bad, so I dropped out and left the course at like the 2 mile mark of a 3 mile (non-repeating) course. I figured there was no way in hell I would catch up to the stragglers, but I still did. I think some of those at the back were walking/running alternately. I don't think I hurt anyone because there were still like 100+ runners in front of me, and it was a JV race. But I would never want to have that happen to me again. I should have just run somewhere else once I saw the meet going on. I can't fathom showing up and trying to win, looking like Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite, trying to get back to 1983.
I have a similar story. I was in Arizona at a park to run a compact dirt trail for a daily run. This high school meet was going on but it was very unofficial. It may have been some kind of dual meet time trial because the course was not marked off or closed. I waited until all the runners had started and gave them a 30 second head start before I tried to catch them. I had just bruised my ribs from a car accident so I couldn't take deep breaths, but it was so fun chasing them down haha.
C’mon guys, I've had people literally walking in the middle of the course with their kids while I was leading a race and yes it is distracting and annoying but it is not gonna destroy your race if you're actually prepped to race. These people weren't trying to disrupt a major race they were just running. It ain't that deep in my opinion. If you run cc then you know shit is never gonna be 100% clean, you might slip or get pushed in the back and hit something yada yada yada. Distractions are part of the game
@@andypham1636 hey andy, I wasn't talking about the texas dude, that guy’s a fuck. I was talking about random JV races that have no real meaning and that people are gonna interfere with those races. The texas dude thing is completely different, but that's not what was being discussed. Thanks!
My favorite part is that he didn’t win despite having the better PRs. hope it was just for shits and giggles vs him going through something mentally and emotionally
LMAO i click on this random video and its about a meet I RAN IN?? It was a shock lol somehow i missed all rhis drama! Good video thanks for repping travis county haha
I ran xc and am a serious runner now, but y’all take this stuff too seriously man. Manic episode? Really? It’s not that deep. What he did was stupid but dang
How is it deep? It's just speculation about what might have happened. It is not just "stupid"; it can alter the whole race, and anyone who takes racing seriously should not want random people jumping in.
guy who made the video is a 'voiceover artist' with a laptop who paid for milesplit premium. of course he's going to wildly speculate about why an idiot did something that is against rules and decency that most everyone knows. there's not much analysis of any further worth in his video.
I used to be like this guy. I was only a park runner at best but whenever there was a race around Id want to jump in and challenge myself and see if I could keep up with the big boys. I was a serious runoholic and just wanted to feel like I belonged. Its seriously a mental health issue.
This reminds me a little bit about James Hogue, the guy who stole the identity of a high school kid when he was in his 20s and won the Stanford Invitational back in the 1980s before he was found out. A few years after that, he made up another identity and got a full ride scholarship to Princeton before being found out again. This guy has been in and out of jail his whole life for various crimes related to theft, and he's in his 60s now, possibly in jail again
This is like when your a parent and you wonder what you would score on the SAT / ACT when you see your kid preparing for it. I can’t imagine actually doing it though.
Doxxing people, playing armchair psychologist, and intimating that the bandit deserves physical violence is far more harmful than bandits running races. Bandits don’t present a harm unless they attempt to claim a prize/notoriety. Merely asking people to not attack this bandit with a quick sentence in the final seconds of this video is bullshit. The fact that the Karen who produced this garbage even snuck that legalese into the video means that are fully aware of what their comments earlier in the video are/were doing. If something happens to this bandit and the perp watched this video, I hope the Karen who produced it is Alex Jones’d into poverty or prison.
I think my cousin ran against his brother Andrew Herbert in the track and field state champion chip, it was the 1600m, and my cousin got 4:15 and he got 4:14, crazy to think, can someone confirm this please, also he probably raced brenden in other meets as well cc and track
To these high school runners the state championship is a huge event for them. For a college guy to jump in to get attention is an act of pure ego and selfishness. His only motivation that I can see is to get attention for himself. Some people are calling this a joke or a prank but as far as I can see this guy is a total jerk. I actually would like to see him punished for this. Getting a little tired of people like this crying out for attention.
Absolutely agree, and glad to see the voice of reason in here. If this behavior were to become widespread it would have to be addressed more seriously, so we either speak up and shame the guy, or laugh it up and let some other prankster think it's okay. Playing it down is not helping anything.
Was there! RRHS freshman watching our varsity runners was fun but i definitely didn’t recognize this adult runner and was wondering who he was. Our coach was posting about it.
this guys an absolute g. bro just wanted to run again lmao. he probably wasnt legitimately scored anyway bc at a state meet they probably had trackers anyway
You have no idea what you're talking about. There are races held all over the country every week. No reason to interfere in a high school race. If he wanted to run again he could've ran again. Easy to laugh about it when you're not competing in that race, I guess.
@@machineofadream yeah its shitty but I'm sorry if there is one sport where no one is effected whatsoever by joining in, its this sport. So in reality, it doesn't matter that much. Sorry dude.
@@CB-rv2lj completely ignoring the mental aspect of running. Running is largely mental. It could have been a disaster for the eventual champion if Sanchez was a stronger runner. Imagine getting passed, trying to keep up with an Olympic athlete and burning out. That kid could have lost a State Championship because of an adult who should know better.
This story is not at all unique. The most famous imposter is John Hogue but there have been others including a college runner who ‘won’ the Colorado State meet in the 80’s. He ran the whole race but at the end did not go through the finishing shoot
I was in class watching the live results come in on a non UIL website. was weird because right as the final results were posted, the top 10 were excluded at first (so it said #11 won the race) probably entirely due to this guy suddenly being there that wasn't. While kevin wasn't affected, I'm good friends with the #2 and #3 runners, and recall jack holding up a 3 on the official UIL post because he thought he was actually beat out by this dude. made for a great story and public bashing on insta, but wow do i feel bad for my fellas.
Maybe he said he identified as a high school runner so what's the problem? I'm kidding of course. Since states is generally in mid November, two weeks later there were probably 27 Turkey Trots to choose from if he needed to race that badly. Props to the HS kid who came back and beat him.
The Milesplit website is so annoying. I'm just trying to see if I can find me at the starting gun or during any pictures but it's behind a paywall. I can't even see my own scores collected under my runner profile without paying
This reminds me of all the weird dudes out there pretending to be what they think women are, in order to finally win at sports they previously sucked in.
Dude there are other races besides high school races lmao, I cant imagine why you go through all that training in college just to go race high schoolers again lmao
@@nicklasdaniels769 after watching some footage, maybe that’s true. But if he didn’t wanna win, why finish 2nd? Why finish 3rd? Why finish at all? None of it really makes sense tbh
@@patricktflowers11317 I feel like he did it because taking 1st place away from the real winner was something he didn’t want to do, since he said he knew Kevin from high school
@@patricktflowers11317 because 1) he didn't want to take away an opportunity from an actual high schooler who worked so hard to get there 2) he'd be disqualified if he did win
I think Sanchez's statement was appropriate. He dismissed Hebert's lie and condemned his actions. Anything more would probably just give the cheater more attention than he deserves.
From someone who was there, it was a really strange thing to watch unfold. It even tricked down to the other races that weekend including mine. Just strange
Crashing races is pretty normal in cross country, my coach had me do it a couple times, but why would he do it at a state meet, with a fake bib too. If you did, you just wouldn’t wear a bib
He’s like those college guys and old men that hang around high schoolers to try to be accepted and go out with high school girls. Just absolute loser behavior all around
...so the College runner started mid-race, ran against High Schoolers, and STILL lost? No wonder he deleted his Insta, probably moved to Alaska to avoid being recognized by anyone 😅 kudos to the HS runner who won fair and square.
A view from the UK. There is no conspiracy here, only someone that is looking for acceptance within society and has chosen something he is proficient at - distance running - and is easy to "appear" in. It is well known that we all want success and approbation within our peer group and some people crave it more than others as they are sometimes more insecure than most. Cheating is the route that the desperate look to to get this. They are just "wired" differently, willing to take that chance.
While I do agree with you that this was an awful thing to do, blaming it on a mental disability or a manic breakdown is kind of an offensive thing to do on your end
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@@andrewfeeback9363 even tho I’m a sprinter I still find all the cross and distance stuff entertaining 😭
@@markcullen2870 yea it’s an interesting sport
Wait now. If a man can compete as a women why can't a grown man be a high schooler again?
Congrats to the kid that ran down and dropped a former D1 runner that started part way through.
Lmao he wasnt trying to win
Kevin Sanchez is rated 18th in the country and is he number one texas runner. i know him personally. Even other schools cheer for him just to see a great runner come out of texas
@Bradley Mitchellmaybe, but he doesn't appear to be having the clearest of thoughts and it was a state champ at his biggest race of the season, the kids fast enough to beat most college runners on their off days.
Wasnt trying win... but trying to take second? tf are you idiots even talking about?
The guy was clearly out of shape.
4:14 Dude if someone cheered for me like the guy who yells “Let’s go Jack! Go give it to ‘em, son!” I’m pretty sure I could lift a car off the ground with my bare hands.
That was cute.
lmao imagine being unloved
@@ppstorm_ lmao imagine being a dick
Y'all might be romanticizing sports dad. Sometimes it's just love and support. Sometimes if Jack doesn't "get em," he gets beat. I heard an edge in that voice that chilled me.
@@montananerd8244 lmao tell me u were a disappointment without telling me u were a disappointment
Bro couldnt even win😭😭
Bro runs a 3:59 mile there’s no way he didn’t let him win
@@adamo2359 I don’t think just being a sub 4 miler dqs you from being beaten at the HS level. I would say it’s likely that he just got beat by a HS athlete.
I thought Brendan paced him and let him win.
@@redalien75 he let him win
@@rottoncookies1292 proof?
As a former college XC and track runner I'd love to be able to compete in some races again in an open/alumni field. I'd never dress up and pretend to be a student though.....thats weird/cringe as fuck lol
yeah Rosemead Invitational allows open races
You should check out trail running. The community is mostly former XC folks.
big time peaked in hs lol
@@charliehubbell7371 he didn’t though, was a pretty solid runner at ut😂
@@charliehubbell7371 absolutely not lmao he did great in college the dude ran a 2:06 junior year to like a 1:52
He jumped in at around 800m. He didn't come in from the neighborhood.
About 2 minutes before the start, I saw him in spikes and a uniform in the grass by where the course loops back on itself. I didn't know it was Hebert at the time, just weird that this guy was standing way away from the start in spikes. I didn't see him jump in, but based on where he was standing and the video, if you look at the course map, he jumped in on the section where the course does a close U before going back around the lake.
god that's so embarrassing for him
Interesting. Appreciate the insight. Makes it all the stranger he started the race *that* late given that cuts ~1/6 of the race already.
@@RunnerBoi Yep. I think he started out there for two reasons. First it was far enough away from the start where there were only a handful of spectators in that spot. Any closer and people were lining the course.
Second, if you look at the map, the 2mile course intersects with the 5k course, so there was an opening without flags or gates to mark off the course. So an easy part to dip into the race. He was just hanging out in that area for 5-10min before the race started doing drills.
I laughed way harder at this story than I probably should have. Its so absurd!!! 😂
I wish I could go back to high school and use my knowledge and maturity to throw this football over those mountains.
I am honestly laughing at the fact that someone actually did this. Like holy smokes. My buddies and I have cracked jokes about doing this (we coach high school), but never did we intend on actually doing this. Absolutely crazy this happened. I feel bad for the kids.
Imagine how women feel when some dude that can't compete in men's division puts on a wig and beats them down?!?
@@r_ger Y your feels get hurt?!?
@@seanmiller292 did you really need to bring that into this? Firstly, women are better than men at long distance running and secondly, if trans women had some kind of big advantage over cis women, why don't we see trans women dominating every sport they're in?
@@thegatekeeperm8183 Oh yes, it needs to be brought up. Cheating is cheating, the idiocracy needs to be brought up at every turn.
PS you are lying men dominate women in running at any distance (10 to 12 percent on average)... Sorry if your feels get hurt but the truth is the truth.
The reason they're not winning every event is because as I've already explained you aren't exactly getting the cream of the crop so if you would like to discuss having a men's division and an open division we can do that but you're still erasing females...
@@thegatekeeperm8183 Uh we do see trans women dominant the sport they’re in 😂
Imagine coming back from college and losing a high school XC race ☠️
He did not want to win
he runs a sub 4 mile
Theres some fast high school kids out there. I was a college runner but i wasnt that great. my 5k is 16:10 but theres local high schoolers running low to mid 15 minutes in my town and theres no way i can beat them guys.
@@jondagamer4466 well yeah i mean there’s hs kids who have ran sub 4 and some who are v close to it, and kids who run sub 14 on flat and sub 14:30 even on hilly but the college runner doesn’t look anywhere near to be tired and looks like he went on a light jog
he prolly let them win. if he did win, he'd get disqualifying for like cheating soooo yeah
For one, I'm glad the kid that won was able to catch him, from his response it sounds like he saw something that threw him off or frustrated him (maybe he saw him pop out of the neighborhood or he trolled him or something). Also, this is inexcusable because there was an organized run in downtown Austin on Sunday, 10 miler, so plenty of races for adults in the area
Yeah, kids work their whole life to be at the top of the state. Imagine if he woulda won and the other dude comes “second”
The guy was gonna win but he let the kid win.
@@THendy1411 yeah. he would've gotten disqualified if he did anyway
@@andypham1636 I think it’s kind of funny, and the fact he let the winner win is good sportsmanship. The guy should get fined or have some kind of penalty but no jail time and plus he really did something in the distance community 😂
@@nomadpurple6154 i mean that could be the case but the winner won respectfully so I think it ultimately did less harm and is kinda funny
I ran that meet, and I personally had no idea who he was either. I know pretty much every person who is capable of placing top 10 at state, but had no clue who this person was
when you looking at your competition's stats the day before the meet at 11:30pm💀
@@georgesaliba8876 Right, would be weird to see someone get 2nd when they aren't in top 20
He could of honestly waited for his local Turkey Trot and actually won some money against same level high school students.
I have a couple of friends who ran that meet, but I could not see this unfold in person as my state meet was a couple weeks before. I will say I would have never expected something like this >10 miles away from my house. If you wanted to see the angle from some of the runners there I would be happy to help
I've seen some alternative footage, but I'm dying to see if anyone has footage of him entering the pack lmao. I genuinely have no clue how he managed to do that. I contacted the kid that mentioned where he came from, but he didn't get back to me sadly.
@@RunnerBoi I have not heard back from my friends yet but I found this video which makes it look like he entered the race from the neighborhood th-cam.com/video/dRijbuweuns/w-d-xo.html
@@bagelsforbreakfast4014 yeah dude I have someone on my team who ran this meet and I was like woah that’s less than an hour from me
Yo, is there a chance that he genuinely didn’t realize how weird it was until the reporter pointed it out to him lol that would be so much funnier
Strange that people were so quick to call him a dirt bag.
This is the first time I’m able to say, I was there. Was at State to support a teammate and Kevin Sanchez passed him at the 2.25 mile marker… going up hill…
For me, I wouldn't really care and I actually find it a bit funny, but not at a state meet. If he did this at a random tri meet that no one really cares about it would be kind of funny, but states is taken so seriously that he could've messed up someone's pace or mindset
and you are whats wrong with society. keep thinking the likes you get mean something because they dont. you live on the internet where its not the real world and you think something liek this is a joke
Its not that deep 😭@twilightresonance1789
@@t62pac what i said aint that deep. you are just that damaged
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@@twilightresonance1789Interesting. I think a big issue is people who get very upset online and are internet moral police. Let me ask you this, who do you actually help? Whose lives are better because of you? Sitting on your phone morally demeaning people may make you feel good about yourself but that does absolutely nothing positive in this world. This guy didn’t hurt anyone, idc.
My team captain ran in this ran his name is Thierry Garcon and he placed 21st he said he saw Hebert during the race and was very confused bc he recognized him from UT as he just visited the campus and talked to the coach.
Perhaps as a cross country runner, this is the 'weirdest'. However for other running events there have been plenty of other stranger incidents Including multiple people who entered marathons but cheated (I think one woman took a public bus, until she was only a couple miles from the finishing line, and then entered to 'win'. Also the strangest case of a runner is James Hogue. His life and scandals are covered in the Podcast: Swindled Titled: The Ivy Leaguer (Esther Reed / James Hogue). He is a former Kansas State Champion Two Miler. He went on at age 26 to commit identity theft and enroll at Palo Alto High School as a full time student/athlete competing in various high school races.
Whoa. So weird!
Thanks for sharing that podcast.
I was at the meet when this happened, this was my first year at state and my friends I were all dying laughing. Can't believe it's made it this far.
Me too it's Marnie we met at the canteen. Hope you are well.
Grown ass man runs less distance than high schoolers, loses.
His mile PB is faster. He probably didn't want to win.
I just discovered your channel and I'm glad one like it exists. Not enough people are covering running compared to the huge amount of people who participate in it, so it's nice to see quality videos about running events that even non-runners can appreciate. It's obvious that you know what you're doing so keep it up and I'm sure your channel will be on the scale of Total Running Productions in no time!
You say that no other athlete was affected, but it's perfectly possible that other runners blew their race trying to keep pace with him. Some of the runners will have trained all year for this, so it was a doubly shitty thing to do.
It's always nice to discover a new channel that focuses on cheating scandals. I'm not a huge sports fan but I'm always happy to gawk at their dirty laundry.
As an XC this is the most talked about thing to happen in the last half decade
I have a friend who also did this.
He was 20-21 and jumped into the California state meet. He somehow snuck in but half way during the race got yelled at then someone grabbed him and pulled him out lol.
I think it’s crazy how every time something like this happens the media and everyone pretends to care about high school cross country for 15 minutes. The guy is a weirdo for doing this but this could absolutely happen in big meets in my state and no one would give a shit because it’s high school cross country.
2:10 so no one is going to talk about his bib is an entirely different color haha whoever put this race on needs to be shamed good lord
Many of my friends and teammates ran this meet, and it became the talk of the locker room for a while
Let’s think critically about this though. This dude was able to basically hop into a STATE CHAMPIONSHIP meet (the literal biggest one of the year) undetected. This is a security risk that needs to be addressed with more flaggers on the course. No nothing severe happened; just some weirdo living out his dream of running the state meet for a second time, BUT something crazy COULD HAVE happened.. this is honestly embarrassing on the UIL’s part. Maybe this dude did them a favor and they’ll implement something to keep things like this or even more severe from happening in the future.
Don’t be a jackass bud. Now you want your pay for security to cover the entire race course. God…. Talk about a good way to destroy the sport.
How was Sanchez's race "tainted"? He crossed the finish line first and legitimately won the title. Just because this clown sneaked into the race, for whatever reason, it didn't affect Sanchez's result. He merely managed to garner some of the attention afterwards. If I were Sanchez, I'd just laugh it off.
Apparently 1 more person among the hundreds is just too many.
I agree. Had he held on to "beat" Sanchez, I could see the anger. Or maybe the third place guy who initially thought he was fourth should be mad. But Sanchez should be happy. He beat the cheater outright.
If you’re a runner trying to medal and see a guy with fresh legs at the latter stages of a race, this won’t have any bearing on how you race?
LOL…
Yeah, I was there! I’m fairly certain that he snuck in around the first mile mark. The course winded around for the last 2 miles but was fairly straight for the first mile. Because of that most people cheered the runners on over the last 2 miles so they could catch them 3-4 times but there were less people present over the first mile, making it fairly easy to slip in without any coaches noticing.
Years ago, I went to a park nearby to run and there was a meet going on there. It was near the end of the day, and all that was left was a boys' JV race. I let them start, waited about 10 minutes, then began running the course. I was just kind-of jogging and not doing anything hard--I think I was about 30 years old at the time. As luck would have it, some of those JV runners were really slow and I caught up to them, even being 10 minutes behind. I was wearing a walkman and no uniform and training flats, so people knew I was not in high school. Several people shouted at me, even though I was staying to the outside and not interfering with the race. But I felt really bad, so I dropped out and left the course at like the 2 mile mark of a 3 mile (non-repeating) course. I figured there was no way in hell I would catch up to the stragglers, but I still did. I think some of those at the back were walking/running alternately. I don't think I hurt anyone because there were still like 100+ runners in front of me, and it was a JV race. But I would never want to have that happen to me again. I should have just run somewhere else once I saw the meet going on. I can't fathom showing up and trying to win, looking like Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite, trying to get back to 1983.
I have a similar story. I was in Arizona at a park to run a compact dirt trail for a daily run. This high school meet was going on but it was very unofficial. It may have been some kind of dual meet time trial because the course was not marked off or closed. I waited until all the runners had started and gave them a 30 second head start before I tried to catch them. I had just bruised my ribs from a car accident so I couldn't take deep breaths, but it was so fun chasing them down haha.
Please don’t ever do this again. A big part of cross country is the mental aspect, and a random guy hopping in can completely mess you up.
Please don't try that again. if you're gonna race the course independenty, do not do it while others are racing
C’mon guys, I've had people literally walking in the middle of the course with their kids while I was leading a race and yes it is distracting and annoying but it is not gonna destroy your race if you're actually prepped to race. These people weren't trying to disrupt a major race they were just running. It ain't that deep in my opinion. If you run cc then you know shit is never gonna be 100% clean, you might slip or get pushed in the back and hit something yada yada yada. Distractions are part of the game
@@andypham1636 hey andy, I wasn't talking about the texas dude, that guy’s a fuck. I was talking about random JV races that have no real meaning and that people are gonna interfere with those races. The texas dude thing is completely different, but that's not what was being discussed. Thanks!
My favorite part is that he didn’t win despite having the better PRs. hope it was just for shits and giggles vs him going through something mentally and emotionally
He prolly let the actual high schoolers win. Even if he did, he'd be disqualified after sooo yeah
LMAO i click on this random video and its about a meet I RAN IN?? It was a shock lol somehow i missed all rhis drama! Good video thanks for repping travis county haha
Imagine being a grown man and not being able to win against a bunch of kids. Clown behavior.
4:12 love this guy's support for (presumably) his son
I heard about this on the way to my state meet, it was so funny to hear that the guy didn’t even win
he prolly let the actual high schoolers win
It’s funny how the reporter told him it’s not allowed like he’s going to get thrown in prison for it.
Apparently he was thick enough to not understand that it WASN'T allowed.
I ran xc and am a serious runner now, but y’all take this stuff too seriously man. Manic episode? Really? It’s not that deep. What he did was stupid but dang
Hmm... Kevin could've put him up to it so he'd help pace him. That seems more likely than a manic episode lmao
@@crashnebula7 Kevin cheating seems more likely to you than this guy having a mental health issue?
How is it deep? It's just speculation about what might have happened. It is not just "stupid"; it can alter the whole race, and anyone who takes racing seriously should not want random people jumping in.
@@machineofadream exactly
guy who made the video is a 'voiceover artist' with a laptop who paid for milesplit premium. of course he's going to wildly speculate about why an idiot did something that is against rules and decency that most everyone knows. there's not much analysis of any further worth in his video.
The third place guy held up 2 fingers then changed it to 3 🤣🤣
Just because you do something stupid and inexcusable doesn't mean you are mentally unwell.
I used to be like this guy. I was only a park runner at best but whenever there was a race around Id want to jump in and challenge myself and see if I could keep up with the big boys. I was a serious runoholic and just wanted to feel like I belonged. Its seriously a mental health issue.
College kid living his glory HS days..and still lost to a high schooler lol..weak
Most people have nightmares about going back to high school. Apparently not this guy.
This reminds me a little bit about James Hogue, the guy who stole the identity of a high school kid when he was in his 20s and won the Stanford Invitational back in the 1980s before he was found out. A few years after that, he made up another identity and got a full ride scholarship to Princeton before being found out again. This guy has been in and out of jail his whole life for various crimes related to theft, and he's in his 60s now, possibly in jail again
that reporter using an annoyed mom voice, hahah
Tell me you peaked in high school without telling me you peaked in high school 😂
He wanted to relive another victory in his high school days... wait a second...
This is like when your a parent and you wonder what you would score on the SAT / ACT when you see your kid preparing for it. I can’t imagine actually doing it though.
He's not a "college kid" he's a freakin' grown-ass adult! He's 23!
Doxxing people, playing armchair psychologist, and intimating that the bandit deserves physical violence is far more harmful than bandits running races.
Bandits don’t present a harm unless they attempt to claim a prize/notoriety.
Merely asking people to not attack this bandit with a quick sentence in the final seconds of this video is bullshit. The fact that the Karen who produced this garbage even snuck that legalese into the video means that are fully aware of what their comments earlier in the video are/were doing.
If something happens to this bandit and the perp watched this video, I hope the Karen who produced it is Alex Jones’d into poverty or prison.
Holy shit. I found you again, organically. I knew it would happen, I didn't know when. Congrats on the rebuild, good of content as always.
I think my cousin ran against his brother Andrew Herbert in the track and field state champion chip, it was the 1600m, and my cousin got 4:15 and he got 4:14, crazy to think, can someone confirm this please, also he probably raced brenden in other meets as well cc and track
To these high school runners the state championship is a huge event for them. For a college guy to jump in to get attention is an act of pure ego and selfishness. His only motivation that I can see is to get attention for himself. Some people are calling this a joke or a prank but as far as I can see this guy is a total jerk. I actually would like to see him punished for this. Getting a little tired of people like this crying out for attention.
Absolutely agree, and glad to see the voice of reason in here. If this behavior were to become widespread it would have to be addressed more seriously, so we either speak up and shame the guy, or laugh it up and let some other prankster think it's okay. Playing it down is not helping anything.
Weird that a guy with a sub-4 mile on his resume would want to do this.
As a collegiate runner. People are over reacting to this.. it was a joke 😂
Was there! RRHS freshman watching our varsity runners was fun but i definitely didn’t recognize this adult runner and was wondering who he was. Our coach was posting about it.
My uncle did the same thing in Texas along time ago except he went to the school as a student because of the time I believe it was the 70s. Crazy
Imagine wanting to relive high school dreams as an adult man. What a little beta boy
I'd see doing it for fun if you don't think about the consequences but that's a dummy decision
this guys an absolute g. bro just wanted to run again lmao. he probably wasnt legitimately scored anyway bc at a state meet they probably had trackers anyway
You have no idea what you're talking about. There are races held all over the country every week. No reason to interfere in a high school race. If he wanted to run again he could've ran again. Easy to laugh about it when you're not competing in that race, I guess.
@@machineofadream yeah its shitty but I'm sorry if there is one sport where no one is effected whatsoever by joining in, its this sport. So in reality, it doesn't matter that much. Sorry dude.
@@CB-rv2lj completely ignoring the mental aspect of running. Running is largely mental. It could have been a disaster for the eventual champion if Sanchez was a stronger runner. Imagine getting passed, trying to keep up with an Olympic athlete and burning out. That kid could have lost a State Championship because of an adult who should know better.
This story is not at all unique. The most famous imposter is John Hogue but there have been others including a college runner who ‘won’ the Colorado State meet in the 80’s. He ran the whole race but at the end did not go through the finishing shoot
Tbh this funny asf
To some extent at least… it’s hilarious…. To some extent.
More people should do this. It's objectively funny.
He identified as a high schooler, that day. 😂
@@_JellyDonut_ what
Dear Diary: Crushed those 16 year olds!
I was in class watching the live results come in on a non UIL website. was weird because right as the final results were posted, the top 10 were excluded at first (so it said #11 won the race) probably entirely due to this guy suddenly being there that wasn't. While kevin wasn't affected, I'm good friends with the #2 and #3 runners, and recall jack holding up a 3 on the official UIL post because he thought he was actually beat out by this dude. made for a great story and public bashing on insta, but wow do i feel bad for my fellas.
Hebert is a sub 4 miler and ran the course short and lost lmaoooo
Maybe he said he identified as a high school runner so what's the problem?
I'm kidding of course. Since states is generally in mid November, two weeks later there were probably 27 Turkey Trots to choose from if he needed to race that badly.
Props to the HS kid who came back and beat him.
reminds me of that story of that guy who played hs football until his 30's.... lol.
The Milesplit website is so annoying. I'm just trying to see if I can find me at the starting gun or during any pictures but it's behind a paywall. I can't even see my own scores collected under my runner profile without paying
At age 23 I could barely even remember what high school I went too.
04:18 Bro got roasted on Strava.. 😭😭
Today I learned there's actually a huge community of running fans out there
the only controversial thing to ever happen in the world of high school running, everyone be milking this one 💀🤣
This reminds me of all the weird dudes out there pretending to be what they think women are, in order to finally win at sports they previously sucked in.
Dude there are other races besides high school races lmao, I cant imagine why you go through all that training in college just to go race high schoolers again lmao
Ya, this is being made into something bigger than it needs to be.
Not big enough considering there was no consequence for his actions in interfering with a state meet.
@@machineofadream all he did was run and he never took 2nd place. I don't see an issue here.
@@mikel6090 Could not have said it better!
@@machineofadream yeah but did anyone die?
I agree, reporter made it seem like dude committed a cardinal sin
I was there, he was the race after mine. Kevin Sanchez is that guy, even a sub-4 miler can’t touch him 😂
Feel like it’s pretty obvious that he let Kevin win
@@nicklasdaniels769 after watching some footage, maybe that’s true. But if he didn’t wanna win, why finish 2nd? Why finish 3rd? Why finish at all? None of it really makes sense tbh
@@patricktflowers11317 I feel like he did it because taking 1st place away from the real winner was something he didn’t want to do, since he said he knew Kevin from high school
@@patricktflowers11317 because 1) he didn't want to take away an opportunity from an actual high schooler who worked so hard to get there 2) he'd be disqualified if he did win
@@patricktflowers11317 the school of the jersey he wore wasn't even there so if he won, it'd be easy to pick him out as a cheat
I think Sanchez's statement was appropriate. He dismissed Hebert's lie and condemned his actions. Anything more would probably just give the cheater more attention than he deserves.
Motive: dude was trying to get some high school tail. I'll knock some sense into this boy
From someone who was there, it was a really strange thing to watch unfold. It even tricked down to the other races that weekend including mine. Just strange
Many many things I would love to see the aliens faces when someone tries to explain the idiotic shit we do. Like running.
great work as always etienne
Calling this a Cheating Scandal is nearly as odd the act it self.
He just wanted to go back to the good old days.
Crashing races is pretty normal in cross country, my coach had me do it a couple times, but why would he do it at a state meet, with a fake bib too. If you did, you just wouldn’t wear a bib
Jail him and make him forfeit any property he owns. Drug test him. Fine him.
Crazy he lost when he didn’t even run the full race lmao
He’s like those college guys and old men that hang around high schoolers to try to be accepted and go out with high school girls. Just absolute loser behavior all around
I was there he ran the whole thing and actually would have won had it not been for that meddling kid.
...so the College runner started mid-race, ran against High Schoolers, and STILL lost?
No wonder he deleted his Insta, probably moved to Alaska to avoid being recognized by anyone 😅 kudos to the HS runner who won fair and square.
A view from the UK. There is no conspiracy here, only someone that is looking for acceptance within society and has chosen something he is proficient at - distance running - and is easy to "appear" in. It is well known that we all want success and approbation within our peer group and some people crave it more than others as they are sometimes more insecure than most. Cheating is the route that the desperate look to to get this. They are just "wired" differently, willing to take that chance.
In the early 1980s at Tustin high in s. Cali. An adult passed himself off as a student who ran cross country. He even had relationship with a minor .
the running speaks for itself
Honestly he was probably just tried of losing in college and wanted to win a race. Glad he got smoked by a high schooler lol
Yeah that was pretty satisfying, not gonna lie
Man thought we all wouldn't notice the complete different race bib
the Manhattan bandit is my hero
This is the first time many of us have ever given a shit a out cross country so there is that
While I do agree with you that this was an awful thing to do, blaming it on a mental disability or a manic breakdown is kind of an offensive thing to do on your end
Blaming? It was speculation. It's clear that nobody knows.
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