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It’s cringe how you humblebrag about successfully stalking someone.
This is not stalking but journalism. She's journalist and would likely agree haha@@sleepyjoe8394
You need to take this down, it's libelous, Kate has been fully exonerated of the accusations.
yoiur childhood must be horrible if you give a fuck about this no matter topic. dondt waste your time with worhtless hobbies. think about real problems. thanks
@@JammyDodger45she clearly cheated, but this guy bragging about successfully stalking someone who did nothing wrong is pretty creepy and sets off his own red flags.
I'll probably never understand why a nonprofessional would do something like this. There is literally nothing at stake if you have a bad run, it happens to everybody all the time.
As a foreigner to how marathons are organised, I don't understand the scrutiny non-professional runners are subjected either. Her privileges are most likely derived from her journalist status, not her stellar times. Or am I missing something?
Pride can ruin people
In my state there was a report of 2 people who cheated in an ultra marathon event which had no publicity and no prize money
Even worse, a nonprofessional in an important position at one of the most important magazines that covers running.
She had absolutely nothing to win but A LOT to lose. What a stupid thing to do...
Insecurities
The extent I have cheated in marathons: I said I was going to run one once, but I didn’t.
😂 The audacity
You were going to run a what?
@@Mr_Nobody913 exactly
@@wayupnorth9420don’t worry, at least you just didn’t run it. I once cheated by biking the run a few days before to get a feel for the thing and realized I was out of my mind. Not only did I not run the marathon - I used a vehicle to complete it, and I even pre-gamed it.
Am currently on the run(still biking) from the investigation team for my crimes
LOL how dare you lol...
So the bib was giving her trouble, her watch stopped, she had to relief herself, she went off course (and didn't report it), and her chip malfunctioned. Such a spate of bad luck! Or maybe...
She should have just put on a "blindfold" and pretended to play a videogame.
And the bus she caught during the race was busy - she couldn't catch a break.
i've raced loads, disappeared off course behind a tree when nature calls, and still managed to rejoin the race exactly where i left it.
And who "just stops your watch" during a race when it starts going badly?
(LoL. some of my favourite strava tracks are the ones with the massive bonk, LoL)
@@ianmacfarlane1241🤣
wtaf??? in this day and age, with everything being recorded? just why?
Runner with 50 marathons. They check your chip functioning before you get it. Never had a chip malfunction. This woman is a terrible liar.
I agree with you. I have done 29 marathons. Never had a chip malfunction.
I agree! I have done hundreds of races...5Ks up thru Marathons. I had 1 split never capture in a marathon once. But, that was 1 split with all the other showing correct. So the odds of that happening are about 1 in 10,000! But happening to her 3-4 times sounds like a cheater! It would interesting if someone could zoom in on her watch when she finished . What the mileage showed! Also, yep. They always check your chip to make sure it registers.
In my first marathon, I had a missing 40k split. It was the Brighton 2022 marathon that had an extra 800 yards added. My gps on Strava could back up I didn’t cheat though 😂
@@Bulldogrunner How frustrating for you that the course was not accurate, but at least you know in your heart that you did not cheat.
@@Tomcat304 Clearly you did NOT cheat - a chip-reading mat malfunctioned when your one split did not register. But with the runner in this video, having most of her split times missing but SOME registering sounds like blatant course-cutting cheating to me. Disgusting. Very bad sportsmanship.
I’ve enjoyed watching Kate on the Running Channel, so this is so disappointing! Seriously, it’s ok to have bad races. Or to take a break from training hard and then come back slower. It’s relatable and people would respect her more if she was honest!
Thought she looked familiar..what a shame.
Yea my jaw dropped when he said it was her like whaaattt. I guess thats why we don't see her anymore !
Don’t be too harsh for her. She “only” did it for people who followed her.
was thinking the same thing... and i keep asking myself, "but why does she have to do it?"; the answer might be that she has standards to maintain and she has hard time doing so. i don't know, actually, this is the best i could come up with. as a follower, i'd relate more to person with ups and downs more than i would with an overachiever
@@maidbe she is a liar and a fraud - stop making excuses
Let's all just say it. Carter is a serial cheater. Why is that so hard?!
If its not proven completely I think he could be sued for defamation
@@skippygirl959 I think there’s enough circumstantial evidence for a reasonable person to come to that decision. Carter cheated on multiple races.
@@skippygirl959He could be, and if he isn’t, we likely have our answer.
Folding the bib limits the photograph algorithms from identifying her. In effect she could argue “there are no photos because my number got folded”. It’s such a weak attempt at obfuscation though.
"got folded" funny
@@laius6047 and someone mysteriously pinned it in that folded position lol. Mustve been whilst she was having that pee!🤣
@@ultradiabetic Exactly! Blow up the frame at 9:19 and you can see that the bib is properly pinned. The frame at 9:09 (taken later) is equally clear that the bib has been carefully, neatly re-pinned in a folded position leaving just enough number showing to show "I'm wearing a number" but not enough for a recording device to register. This ludicrous "accidental fold" story is obvious crap to anyone who has ever dealt with race bibs. This one incident alone puts the lie to any claim of not purposely cheating.
She could write an article with tips on how to cheat. It would probably be very popular.
"how to unsuccessfully cheat"
@@CARPital All cheating is unsuccessful.
So she claims that she went to the toilet mid race and still managed to get the best split of her entire race at that same section. Come on.
AND that her chip malfunctioned. Even though there’s never been one other case, EVER, of a chip malfunction during one of these races that they’re used. Interesting it happened for you know, the very first time ever in history, while she’s also having all this other extremely bad luck that also makes her look like she cheated. So weird, right?
Well she went so fast because she lost some weight on the toilet and that gave her the advantage. Easy. 😂
I noticed she'd stopped appearing on the Running Channel a while back and just assumed she'd go onto other things. Now I'm wondering if it had something to do with this. Not sure if the dates line up though
I noticed this too.
I still saw her articles on Runners World, I assume that kept her busy.
She wasn't on often enough for me to notice she was gone until I heard about this. Sad. I liked her. But there's way too much going on here for it to be a coincidence.
I recall her saying she hoped double Olympic gold medal winner James Cracknell's "midlife crisis was all better now" when he competed in the Oxford Cambridge boat race. Kate if you're reading, I hope your midlife crisis is all better now too. Wonder if she'll be wearing a panda costume for her next race to save face.
Why would someone wear a panda costume in a race??
@@Letsberealish For clout on the internet
I have more respect for those who give it their all and finish in 5+ hours, than folks like this woman.
I really struggle to understand this kind of thing. I know for myself if I were to receive congratulations from friends and colleagues, or even worse prizes for a top finish, all while knowing in the back of my head I cheated it would eat me up.
I once did an Olympic distance triathlon and biked 70km on a 40km bike route because I missed a turn and had to back track. I still DQ'd myself with the officials at the finish line as I had gone off course. For me my integrity is worth more than any amount of accolades.
People who do this have a different brain set than the rest of us. Read a very long and good piece about the notorious Southern California serial cheater which said that they believe that they "could have done what they claim" if it weren't for whatever outside "not their fault" problems prevented it from happening. "I could have played for the Yankees if I hadn't dropped out of Little League because my Mother made me come straight home from school" and they believe it, so it's real to them. (and of course they deserve the accolades)
Cheat and hypocrite. Runners World needs to call it out or lose credibility.
As soon as someone has "chip malfunctions", I am suspicious, I have run in hundreds of races wearing all kinds of chips - shoe, ankle strap, foil RFID thing and various kinds in the running number and never once had one failure, not one. Not saying they can't happen but if they come along with other suspicious circumstances then sorry, no.
Obviously the original whistleblower is someone who knows her, running club members are generally aware of what times other runners in the club are actually capable of and although you might dismiss one anomalous result, it is easy to see a pattern. One pattern is people who struggle in training runs to run as fast as they used to but still talk a good race and DNF claiming injury rather than post a slower time than their ego allows. Really sad that they can't see that just getting around with no excuses is much more admirable than an effortlessly fast runner finishing top 10.
I have also had zero chip failures. I’m with you…chip failures MAY be possible, but they are a rare exception.
I had two chip failures in two consecutive races back in early 2020 although they are the two have ever had. Fortunately was able to use my GPS/Strava trace and some race footage videos to get myself in the results when contacted the respective organisers. Think it could be as I am very tall (1.95m) and both were chips in the race number not on a shoe so maybe the signal was a bit weak. It was only the last finish line split though.
@@TimGrose do you know of anyone who had a chip failure at the start line but then good chip readings the rest of the way? I look over lots of race results since I like seeing what kinds of paces people run, and although I have seen a few missing checkpoints here and there, I have never once seen a missing “chip start”.
@@quengmingmeow I "run" Power of 10 and runbritainrankings so we often look out for these sort of anomalies. I recall London Marathon will, after checking, retrospectively add or remove results where the chip failed for legit or other reasons! Agree that a chip not working over the line but later on is very unusual but pretty sure can recall seeing the odd example of it.
But how would she know during the race that her chip is faulty?
What is really suspicious about the Berlin time as well, is the fact that her brutto and netto time are exactly the same. Usually the brutto time (time from gun start) differs quite a lot from the netto time (chip time) for amateur runners. But she doesnt have that difference.
Maybe she's a natural 😅
Why is that, can you please explain?
@@WobblesandBean because in these big races there are so many people at start line it can take a while depending on where your positioned in the mass of people to get across the start line after the gun goes off, Elites don't have this issue because there is no way near the amount there are in the amateur race, like we are talking 10s of people for elites vs tens of thousands of people in the amateur race.
@@sirsquid577I ran Berlin way back in 2004 and it took me 27 minutes from the official start to crossing the starting line!
Race organizers will also position elite runners at the front so they don't begin stuck behind packs of casual runners.
As a high school runner in the early 1980s I was happy to have a doctor at Kaiser Permanente who was a runner. I was stunned to find out almost 40 years later that the Dr. Meza I knew was cutting marathon courses all over the place. A sad ending to a life of service. I believe he committed suicide.
saw an article onliene stating she was cleared of intention to deceive. the establishment tend to protect their own
One point about the suspicious Berlin race, they use those chip timers that you attach to your shoe laces. If there are no splits, it is likely that this wasn’t attached, whether accidentally or deliberately.
Great point
I remember that when I did Berlin
I’ve done 10 marathons
Never had an issue with my exact time
She’s a cheat
It is likely she didn't run across the sensor
I've never used a chip timer before...but how would she have known the timer wasn't working? Does it beep or vibrate when it goes over a marker?
@@timothyfranklin4808 You wouldn’t know. The point is just that it’s much easier to not have your splits show up on tracking when using the separate shoe tag and missing splits is the easiest way to spot someone who is skipping parts of the course. Normally, you would have to tamper with your bib, which would show up in photos etc. But just based on this, there is no way to know if her chip didn’t work, if she forgot it, or if she deliberately left it off.
the mat beeps as you approach (1-2m prior to getting to it) but normally in a big marathons it just goes crazy with beeps due to the large numbers so difficult to tell whether one was missed.@@timothyfranklin4808
I ran my whole life until arthritis stopped me. Why run in a serious event without a chip? Why stop your watch? Seems very suspicious to me and has all the hallmarks of cheating. Two thumbs up for Karl Jobst! 👍👍
The only reason you wouldn't have a chip is if you are ghost running the course, and the proper respectful way to do that is to not "finish" through the actual finish since you aren't actually a part of the race. Anything else is likely bullshit. There'd have to be an insane amount of bad luck to somehow lose it or for it to be damaged accidentally.
@@Zharghar08 100% agree!
This is a typical situation where she wants to be validated in her job and the Running Channel Community because of her time achievements. Wrong move lady! Once you lost the trust of the community your opinions worth nothing. She is going to loose her job. What a narrow-minded attitude!
I would suggest that having bad races puts you more in touch with real runners.
It seems so stupid. It's not like everyone is expecting a middle aged writer to always be putting down fast times.
@@michaelm.3210 It's hard to know the reasons behind her behavior. There are a few assumptions for this, but in the end happens the situation you wrote. (Great movie by the way, I didn't remember that quote but it is great and a fact of life!)
How you do anything, is how you do everything. Trust gone!
Cleared of any wrong doing by English Athletics, so supposedly her reputation is 'intact'. Interesting that she won a Guinness World record wearing a disguise
Makes you question if it was someone else 👀
This was very foolish on her part. The risk v reward of this makes no sense to bother with. It's pride making problems.
Who knows? When someone makes running the majority
Of their identity--regardless of their ability--they have a built in expectation that they need to show “good” results however they define good. I agree…it seems ridiculous, but this is some deep psychological issue that isn’t rational.
watch?v=r9wuZzJ01wE
@@quengmingmeow yes, probably
Love that you’re exposing these people. Please do the one who principal who cheated at the Sarasota marathon!
sorry she is a cheat and nothing else matters..... a horrible lady who can't be trusted.
Everyone has an inexplicable bad race once in a while or one where they turn up to the start line knowing they're not in great shape, it's just part of running and no one thinks any less of them for it unless they're elite. And she's not elite, she's decently quick for her age/gender cat but not blistering, I know 2 women in my local running community in their 50s who are faster than her. The times she's cheated to achieve carry no real tangible award or prestige, and I'm sure she can and has run faster times without cheating on a good day.
Why on earth would she risk trashing her reputation, work and social connections, ruining her hobby for herself etc to record times that are just a bit less below her usual standards? Especially when she works for the likes of The Running Channel and Runner's World whose main ethos are along the lines of 'doesn't matter what pace or distance you can run, just get out there' - and then she does that!
People sometimes put so much pressure on themselves over things that to others seem trivial. Makes no sense from the outside but in her head it must have been the obvious course of action. And I think that's the only real way she can keep her career as a running journalist/personality. Own up to everything, apologise properly, and offer herself up as an example as to why it's so unhealthy to use your imagined perception of what other people think of you as your primary motivation
Absolutely my thoughts
Great comment.
Yes it's totally bizarre. Like, I'm sure no one would have even noticed her "bad" times. Now people who aren't even in the running community (e.g. me) are watching a video about a woman I'd never even heard of before.
@@luhole Most people in our running community are very supportive of their fellow runners. I am a very slow, rather clumsy runner, yet I get so much support and cheers from fellow runners, even from the fast, elite runners. If this woman had been honest in her race times, she would have had all that love that fellow runners give. What a shame that she embarrassed herself so blatantly that non-runners like you are even hearing of her. Sad. Please know that most of us are honest in our races, and please come join us someday.
It almost sounds like she's confessing here in her comments when interviewed:
"Where and what was your best performance? How did you achieve it i.e. training,
mental prep?
That’s an interesting question because I think best doesn’t necessarily always mean fastest… My second ever marathon was New York, and the weather was horrible. Sub zero temperatures, howling headwinds for 21 miles of the course.. I ran a PB of 14 odd minutes (from 3:25 to 3:11) and I’m still not sure entirely how. Perhaps I just didn’t know any better yet? Tom Craggs - who is now my coach - actually paced me for that, first time I’d ever met him! But I guess in terms of pressure and long term goals, it would be running 2:59 in Seville. That took a fair few attempts, and a deliberate decision to go “below the radar” and not tell anyone about it. Tom talked to me beforehand about how even the very well-meaning pressure from people who followed the Guardian blog, or stuff on Strava, or whatever it is.. it can become pressure in your head.. So we decided I just wouldn’t tell anyone I was doing it. Barely told a soul until I crossed the line and had done it. I also did that off a pretty short block of marathon-specific prep - only about 8 weeks. Perhaps that also helped. Less time to stress about it!"
This dude creates high quality videos like every day 😂. Keep it up!
Once a cheat always a cheat even worse for someone in her position. Wouldn't surprise me if she's cheated way before too
What do you mean once a cheat? Was she found of cheating for something many years before this?
I have run races of various distances, from local 5ks to the Boston Marathon. In over 35 races, I have never had a chip malfunction. I can't imagine one person would have 2-3 chip malfunctions in a few short years?
What a disgrace. It doesn’t matter who or why, cheating is cheating and people who commit to it have no integrity.
Cheating is so easy to catch these days. Chips are checked when you pick them up. Thanks for being so diligent in your reporting. Very well done and so happy to see you exposing cheaters.
Once a cheater, always a cheater.
Yep. This means it’s been going on for a while.
I cheated in a cross country at school and come in 8th. The year before I ran the race and came 3rd or 4th. It was laziness, not competitiveness. Cheating at anything doesn't cross my mind any more.
Is there anyone alive who hasn't cheated at anything in their life? No matter how insignificant?
Unless she is truly sorry and repents, maybe volunteer for a year at a local Park run?
Can we also say that about Justin Gatlin?
Have always been fascinated with people who do this because if you are not winning, what's the point? Maybe that is the point, thinking it's not a big deal...like it being a victimless crime. This type of stuff just seems like it is resume building to add "legitimacy" to it. Maybe being part of RW she felt the need to meet a standard she could not hit if undertrained. I was once a marathon runner and switched into ultra running...could never imagine feeling the need to fake a time or finish...at the end of the day no one cares about my time or finish, but i live with knowing. I would take a 5 hour finish time over a 3 hour fake time....but in road running elitism festers as many judge your worth as a runner by your pace and finish times. Hence the issue with road running.
Expose these cheats who are dining out jet setting living it night out of CHEATING
I’m pathologically unable to cheat. The risk of embarrassment is just too much.
She would have literally gotten people giving her encouragement if she failed to reach her marked run and posted it instead of cheating. Posting your failures is so much better than cheating and making yourself seem indestructible or incredible.
Having trouble understanding why she did this.
Pride
Lacking moral fibre and decency.
Looks like she's psychologically tricked herself through the years into believing she should run certain times, as a way to keep some kind of status, as a public persona in UK's running world.
My guess would be (1) ego (needing public affirmation) or (2) pressure to protect her livelihood as a running journalist, albeit a wrong/misguided attempt at protecting it.
The way she writes about her runs, I'd bet money it's something to do with being afraid to put herself to a real test when she feels unprepared. (Which is likely most of the time if not always.) If you make something up, even if that something is also bad, at least it's not real. You can maintain the idea that the real you would be better. You never have to put yourself in a position to fall short of your own standards for yourself. Other people have suggested more external, profit-minded (in one way or another motives), but it feels very internal to me.
I could be wrong; certainly her refusal to admit to it even after being caught suggests I might be sympathizing too much.
I would go easy about putting Kate Carter on a pedestal as a "role model"... because that inadvertently suggests that narcissism and deception are traits to be emulated.
She no doubt started with the best intentions.
@@poopoppyRoad to Hell is paved with them
@@poopoppy thats what they said about Hitler
If you're notable in the running community, it's way better to admit you just had a bad day, rather than fabricate a time that is in line with your hopes for the event. I'm sure the running community could use the reinforcement that every effort isn't going to be Olympic quality.
Exactly!!!! Elites do it all the time! They drop out at the 20k mark noting 'it wasn't their day'. Plus, she commented it was going to be a fun run, not an all-out effort! Losing credibility is hard to get back!
yeah
Of course! Nobody in the running community is going to hold it against you if you have a bad day.
This! She’d of gotten some asshats cause that’s life but the amount of people that would have respected her more for it would have been a lot.
Notably, she wasn’t listed on the masthead in this month’s issue of Runner’s World UK. 👀
Thank you, as always, for a wonderful and informative video!
Perhaps I'm a bear of little brain, but the machinations of how people cheat seem so complicated, it would seem so much easier to just run the damn thing honestly and not tell anyone about it.
Yes, she is part of the running media, but she's not elite and no one would be looking at her time (other than friends and family she told) unless she hung a lantern on it. At best, she could have written an article about "what to do if your marathon goes sour."
As a mere mortal runner, I admit I'd love a job writing for running media (and to run in the London Marathon someday). Putting all of this at risk is disappointing and baffling.
I agree. She had such a wonderful, prestige job in the running community. How ridiculous for her to throw it all away by cheating. I hope her media outlets NEVER hire her again. We runners deserve better.
@@cathynewyork7918 she is slowerd than Jimmy Savile and has about as much integrity
@@elliotoliver8679 Yes. She is faster than Donald Trump but has the same dishonest lack of character.
The thing about the guy insta blocking you is mad weird
Might as well instantly expose who that person is, in the spirit of why the hell not.
@@Rareos idk about exposing him but it might be worth looking into
The insta-block certainly suggests he guessed right. A response of “Sorry, I have no idea who that is or what this is about” would have been much more convincing.
no, he probably got a legal letter from her lawyers
It seems to me it either is a colleague in the running media, or an acquaintance that was suspicious of her times having raced against her.
Dude, you're a legit investigative reporter 👌👏
The fact she asked marathoninvestigation how they catch cheaters is pretty telling and all the evidence i need.
Liar. Cheat. Thief.
That is all.
Thief? Not really, she's the only person who has lost anything. She was a good runner and now she'll only be remembered as being bad at cheating.
If you meet a cheat, you've met a liar and thief.
All 3 are different strings on the rope of deception.
I hope she owns up to it. We're a good group. We can forgive 😊
A lot of us run for different reasons. First 5k, celebrate a birth, or console a loss, unless we're Kipchoge we're a losers who are just trying to do something personally good. Who ever you are. You're fine, just the way you are. Walk run fast slow doesn't matter as much as having a good time. Keep going!
She’d have stolen someone else’s spot in a good for age time
@@Bulldogrunner true, someone might have got placed 10th rather than 9th or something. However, she's lost all of her credibility. She's terrible at cheating and I don't like her but I hope she's ok.
@@realchannel-1 Well said!!
Most underrated content creator I know, been a fan for awhile. Keep it up!
do you know the roots though
It will blow up sooner or later. I have caught quite a few big youtube channels at the early stages. If he gets one viral video, it will snowball.
Non-runner here but I am finding this channel addictive. Cheating because one does not want to put in the actual work to be fit enough is the reason I could most easily understand. Running if it’s part of a team sport involving a ball is fine with me but just running is painful, boring and never gets easier or enjoyable.
However, I cannot stand cheaters or corrupt officiating. Are there any stories of corrupt track and field officials? I’d love to see videos on that!
What a fraud. Cheaters suck.
Absolutely. Such an obvious cheat.
Looks like all her videos are removed from the running channel.
Not true.
She stopped presenting a couple of years ago, so naturally you won't find any videos in this time frame. But the videos featuring her from 2½-5 years ago is definitely still on the running channel.
@@TheDragothica Cheers I must have been watching old videos so in recent times.
No she has a “best of Kate” playlist still.
This is so disappointing, I am growing suspicious of many run influencers recently
Distance running is all about self-improvement and community, so who is she cheating? Herself and her friends? This is bananas to me
🤣
Honesty is the best way out for her, think of all the clicks she could generate that way. ‘ Oh I took a wee and misjudged my re-entry. Sorry’, then race with a GoPro and prove herself clean
I shat myself in a cross country relay at school, not on purpose just could not hold it, kept going, got laughed at for years afterwards, (the chafing was the worst). Claiming she had to step off to 'sort herself out' needs some explanation of exactly what that would involve
I don’t get it though… why why why cheat????? It’s sooo totally unimaginable, sooo totally pointless!!! Not to mention the lack of respect for both herself AND others!! Every time I hear about one I’m totally bamboozled !! 🤷🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
Cheers. Great video.
You say her results didn’t really effect anybody but this is simply not true. Cheats are scum of the earth. They put EVERY honest person under suspicion and that’s the real tragedy here.
Kate Carter should be ashamed. The Runners Channel which she presented on has lots of influence, especially amongst newer runners.
To find out she is the runner involved in this is very disappointing.
Thankfully she’s not presented on The Running Channel for a few years now - maybe they were aware of this? I met her at the Tracksmith Amateur Mile in 2022 and asked her why she wasn’t on the channel anymore. She just brushed it off saying she was freelance and they just hadn’t asked her to do anything lately. I’m shocked by this video. I just don’t understand why people do it. Absolutely baffled.
Lighten up, cheaters aren’t really scum of the earth as I’m sure there are far worse things to critcise people about at the end of the day it’s sad to think she felt she had to do this and must have felt pressured into doing it in case a poor time might affect her standing in the runners world community possibly.
@@paulpurves484 They’re pathetic, narcissistic and deceitful.
People who cheat, make me so angry. There can be no defence or justification.
@@christinaclementson Maybe she cheated for her ego, to have great race times? I am a slow runner, but at least I can be proud of achieving a race finish because I do EVERY STEP of the official course.
@@cathynewyork7918 I 100% agree with you. You’re just cheating yourself. How can she be proud of those times knowing she cheated. She is a fast runner!! There’s no need for her to do this. I’m proud of all my race times too 😊😊
Great article, very odd that someone would cheat when theres no prize money at stake.
Still don't get, what does the folding bib mean?
Hiding her identity.
After some races with official photographers, you're able to search your bib number and you'll be shown all the pictures you're in (a bit like a speeding camera and numberplates). My guess is, she was trying to avoid that.
@@snooganslestat2030 She probably folded her bib up, maybe to remove the timing chip on the back, but mostly so people would not see her race number once they realized she was cheating. She wasn't smart enough to know people could find her race number from photos earlier in the race.
Trying to create a narrative as to why there is no photos of her.
Agree that people who base their profession or influencer jobs with privileges and VIP or paid trips must be held to high standards. It’s not only a moral issue. But if she refers to her Strava or whatever data and then gets VIP access or privileges, then it is plain fraud. Even if she would have got same with an honest marathon result of 4 or 5 hours.
My marathon times vary from a pretty solid 3:17 to a fairly wobbly 5:30ish (asthma attack).
I would DNF before I cheated to complete any race even though nobody else cared about my race result at all.
Apparently you're afraid that people will care quite a lot, otherwise you wouldn't have tried to excuse your bad times on asthma. If you truly stood by that opinion, you wouldn't have mentioned it.
@@WobblesandBean Excuse what bad times? If you finish then you post no bad times. You either missed the point completely or you feel attacked for some reason.
@@bushmasterflash lol at the guy that said you had a bad time because you are blaming having an asthma attack on having asthma 😂
Or something I don't even get what he's saying lol
zero shame in that. running marathons at all is tough much less with asthma and a pretty respectable time. I think most average people would be beyond pleased to ever finish with a sub 4 finish lol
@@selcatron I now view my marathons like this. I'm not an elite and I'm not going to compete against them for the win. The only person I have to be concerned with in my marathon is me. As long as I have a good time (not necessarily a fast time) and finish, I'm going to be content with the result. The finish time doesn't really matter unless I want it to. As long as I take my meds asthma usually makes no difference to my running. Occasionally something odd might set it off like wood smoke or someone's perfume. It only slows me to a walk though not a stop. I can walk a 16 min mile. I don't mind finishing a marathon at that pace 😀
England Athletics has cleared her of wrongdoing after an investigation, but I still have serious doubts.
England Pathetic has 'cleared' her
She beat me at Monopoly once, now I’m suspect of the win’s legitimacy 🤔
Great video. I think she may need professional mental health help. Running is supposed to be fun! There’s always people faster or slower- no use trying to cheat!
I feel sorry for this person, that they felt the need to cheat to get a better time. I saw her videos on the running channel when i was starting out on my running journey. This feels weird.
That's nice. I feel bad for her too. She will now be remembered for this rather than all the time she did good honest running.
There’s no glory in being dishonest.
she sounds like a true narcissist.
I know this everyone’s favorite buzzword but not EVERYONE who does something bad or even someone who is just a full on POS is a narcissist.
I don’t believe 99% of people using this word understand what it means and couldn’t explain what it means, in their own words, without having to consult google.
Chips are so sensitive. It is rare they mess up. I ran a 5k at a local marathon with my friend (she is a disabled athlete). I carried my marathon bib so I wouldn't trip the sensor - the 5k passed over a timing mat for the 26.2 and they have the same finish. I carried my bib and side stepped the mats. My chip still registered. It had me clocked as the winner when I was in fact, only halfway through even though technically I had passed the mat twice , taking a late start after the 5k . I emailed the RD and sent my watch data to correct. I come by my slow times honestly. Bottom line: don't cheat. I could have used that bogus time for a BQ. Over my slow, mediocre, dead body.
Instagram has a blocking feature that let's you block someone and all of their other accounts. So if your public Instagram you messaged them with is also linked to your private with "accounts center" or maybe your phone number, that'd be why.
I went to university with someone who came up to me and wanted to run a marathon with me. I offered to train with her, etc. she always had a reason to not train. race day comes and I tell her, I will run with you the whole way (I'd done that run before and I was there to support her). she did it! did the whole thing. suffered like crazy, but did it. My job, per her, was to make sure she was always running when there was a camera. we crossed the finish line - amazing! later than day I heard her telling people she had finished in 3 hours 10 minutes (it was over 5 hours). I said, you know, they can look you up and see your time. why would you lie? just finishing is amazing. (plus claiming near boston time was ridiculous). her answer "nobody will look it up" during the race, she was very angry at the fact that 1/2 mile from the finish line some lady was looking great in her make-up. made a big deal that the woman clearly cheated and just jumped on the course a mile out. I found out later that she had thought I was going to run ahead of her. once I was away, she had a friend ready to drive her to near the finish line. ....so you ask who cheats when you aren't even a pro. answer: mental people. ... but dang woman, you finished it! I bet to this day she doesn't embrace the fact that she finished a marathon ... as a 40 year old woman, with no training. (she also had lied and said she was 30, and she just looked older because she had cancer in her 20s - another lie).
A cheat is a cheat. This likely isnt the only thing she tries to cut corners on.
About the being blocked on instagram point, I doubt the person found your personal account. When you block someone on insta it asks you if you want to block other accounts associated with that person.
If you used the same email address, phone number or something, that would be why you're blocked on both accounts. Maybe instagram even blocks accounts logged in from the same device?
The half marathon was obviously a cut by the split times alone, weird that somebody with so much invested on this would risk so much for nothing
“My watch died”… “had to pee”…. “Chip didn’t work”
GURL please!
Dishonesty at it's finest.
I ran 1marathon in my life. Never wanted to do it again and NEVER thought of cheating! What is the point???😮
feels strange, i watched many videos of her and her advice when i started running... in my opinion she could've been honest too with not so good results and still good in her job. I mean thats life, people are not amazing runners their whole lifetime and yes having children and other stuff in life which is more important than a perfect training cycle is normal. So her cheating... just sad. Not necessary
I always used to read her blog in the Guardian on Monday, used to look forward to it and the btl. More than a tad disappointing if true. As someone has said may be the need (of a journo) to be relevant / interesting got the better of her.
a journalist lying , who would have thought it.
I'm old enough to have been watching the 1972 Munich Olympics marathon finish on TV as a child. I still remember the chill that came over me with the realization that the first runner to enter the cheering stadium at that climactic moment was an imposter (German student Norbert Sudaus). It creeped me out. Frank Shorter had trained in and been a resident of Boulder, Colorado, my hometown, and unfortunately this unsettling memory will always be a strange part of watching him win the gold medal. I realize the situation with this journalist is different, but still, cheating is ugly.
Its always MY chip that never seems to work >:(
Yeee suuuure.
Funnily enough on my first fun run: my chip didn’t work! Luckily there were photos 😎 So it can happen, but not with all the other dodgy stuff.
I don't understand why there isn't a full proof way of preventing cheaters. We have all the technology in the world to prevent such a thing.
I just don't understand, why fake results that are not even in the top 10?
This is so very disappointing. I've been a RC fan since around 2020 and have known Kate from there, along with all the other presenters all of whom are amateur runners, some great, some just average like me with all kinds of going well or badly on any running day. My favourite presenters are the one's that are just regular runners, like Anna, Sarah. Both are authentic battlers doing their best and most of us can relate to them because we know how they feel when we are just plodding along trying to get to the finish line, whether that be at Park Run or just a line in our training run. I am disappointed that Kate did not understand the value of authenticity. I hope she learns from this.
3 minute miles? Who would claim that?
Liars and cheaters would.
@@EightFrancs I've often done a better than 3 minute mile. Driving my car. Haha.
I know someone who cheated in an ultra trail race (skipped about 20 km!) and it really made me doubt everything about him, inside and outside of running. I just don’t understand how these people can rationalise it to themselves, let alone make up these absurd excuses publicly.
Oh, Kate. How could you???
I understand she has been ‚cleared‘ but what really reaks me out is she saying that she didn‘t feel great so casually stopped her watch or whatever. That shows so much. I mean just GETTING a place in the London Marathon is something most people just don‘t manage although trying for YEARS. just throwing it away or saying so is mindblowing.
Holly smokes, she is lying big time. I did berlin in 2022, and I'm proud of my slow time. 3:32 This was an expensive trip,why cheat.
Enough of the humble brag you muppet
That's a solid time. I understand that anything under 4 hours can be considered a good marathon time (for a man).
Once I was running a smallish half marathon race for the first time at that distance. It was mainly through a couple of neighborhoods and marked by following orange cones left on the curb. I took a wrong turn and had literally no idea until some other runners gave me the classic “you’re going the wrong way!” I slowly caught up to them and expressed how thankful I was they spoke up.
Since running larger events, however, I feel like it’s nearly impossible to make such a mistake as I did at that smaller event because each turn is clearly marked with fencing, barriers with fans behind them, or literal signs that state when to turn or not to.
These “oopsies!” that she was supposedly experiencing simply don’t happen at the caliber of events she was taking part in and thinking that we would buy that load of crap is insulting to us and ought to be embarrassing to her.
If the results didn't affect prize money... Why cheat? My suspicion is she wants to keep a standard she is used to and accustomed to over the past few years... And given she has a job she may think it matters to her viewers. The sad part is... She has that job and probably wouldn't lose it from a subpar race or two. I'm still at a loss for the ultimate motivator, but it does make for good conspiracy TV.
Cheating should NOT be done, even if prize money is involved.
@@cathynewyork7918 the motivation matters... And we don't have enough information...
@Kwildcat13 by definition the majority of runners cannot be elite
I just googled her and it said England Athletics cleared her of any wrongdoing after an investigation.
But why though
Ego and hype cred for her work. Fitness "influencers" are a scourge, whether with drugs, lying etc..
25 years ago I was coming to the end of a race and had set up this guy to pass before the end. The last 500 feet required a L, the guy took it at a angle and I had to think about cheating too to pass him. I did the L and here we go 25 years later feeling good that I never cheated., but hating that I’m old and really can’t run anymore and I eat too many donuts.
Her results DO affect others. Your place in a race, ability to qualify for races etc is all affected by these cheats.
Just be a mid-pack runner and be thankful your body is up to running a marathon. This goofy time cheating stuff is so lame.
I wonder if TRC would cover this?!
I think she's still involved with them? So probably not until she leaves? Or until it's confirmed that she cheated?
She hasn't been on The Running Channel for a long time
I've gone down the rabbit hole of cheating runners before. It's fascinating to me the lengths that people go thru. One runner with a really good race result uploaded their "race" to Strava that showed the runner doing the course 8hrs after the race.
Some of those caught admitted to it, but some denied it to no end. All these were amateur runners, no money, no gains other than personal ego, it seems.
If it walks like a duck…
Why do this? My twin runs marathons in the Uk and even she is baffled by these types of runners. She trains really hard and gets annoyed when she can’t get in races like the London marathon which she has done in the past. But cheats like her can do, it’s mind blowing. My twin is an Abbott master but has had to drop out due to her colitis and anemia she’s devastated.
A journalist, what else do you expect?
How do you know while racing that your chip isn't working?
Journalist explains everything all they do is lie
who hurt you, ohh, a journalist