Discarding your whole transfer rule for the side games, Ferrum could just be south of Kalos, either on the same continent like the Pokémon version of Africa separated by a river or just some island off the coast.
After looking into this a bit more, I've managed to discover something that I think would more place each region more accurately and that being the Pokemon, Shellos and Gastrodon. If you don't know, Shellos and Gastrodon have two different forms depending on which side they appear on Sinnoh's mountain ranges aka. Mt. Coronet, the West Sea and East Sea Form. However, Shellos and Gastrodon have appeared in the wild in other regions with their unique forms but what's interesting about this is that since then, only one form of the Shellos line has appeared in the wild. And because of this, it pretty much confirms that Sinnoh is in the middle of the Pokemon Earth if you flatten it out on a map and should be somewhat straightforward to roughly pinpoint where each region is based on that fact. In Kalos, you go to the Friend Safari, you'll be able to only find West Sea Gastrodon which does fit where it appears on your map. In Alola, if you go to Poni Island, you'll be able to only find East Sea Gastrodon where if you move every region on your map to the left, then would fit as well. In Galar, throughout the region, you'll be able to only find East Sea forms of the Shellos Line where it would need to be moved on the map in order the fit. And in the Pokemon Ranger games, Shadows of Almia and Guardian Signs, you can find only the West Sea Shellos Line and I think putting around where the Orre Region is would make it fit a bit better. Now the interesting ones are where they can be found in Johto and Hoenn, regions where they didn't exist prior to Gen 4. In Johto, you can actually find a West Sea Shellos on the Pokewalker (which is likely somewhere around Johto/close to Sinnoh) making it fit on your current map but then we get to Hoenn that's more difficult where depending on which version, you can encounter both forms of Shellos which would seem impossible, but I think the way we can make this work is like what you said where Groudon or Kyorge managed to destroy a good chunk of Hoenn in the past so much that it potentally moved it slightly to either the West or East or maybe the simple way is that Regigigas moved Hoenn it slightly further in one version compared to the other. Now of course, this is just a bit of an observation that was just made for fun, but it would be cool that maybe when you do another revision of the map in the future, potentially when Gen 9 comes out, then you could take this observation into account.
I always assumed that Hoenn was directly south of Sinnoh. Also, Hello from the future! Apparently both forms can also be found in Paldea. However, East Sea is apparently decreasing in number, while West Sea is increasing. To me that says Paldea is East of Sinnoh, but West Sea is expanding its range and displacing it
Now that Gen 9 is out, we have a problem with this theory. Both forms of Shellos/Gastrodon can be found in Paldea, and they are distributed with respect to the Paldea region itself. West Sea is found on beaches on the Western side of the region, while East Sea is found on beaches on the Eastern side. Pokemon appears to be just as consistent as it is inconsistent. Hopefully, at least, Paldea's DLC area will clarify it's position relative to Kalos. It lies in the same part of Paldea as the area Spain and France are located, which are the real world locations they are based on. There's also a lot of speculative evidence that the past Paradox Forms found in Scarlet are probably the source of the forms brought about by Mega Evolution. So having these 2 regions tied closely together would make a lot of sense, given the 2 disperate mechanics.
Mew Master Jash its on bulbapedia and other places just type in pokemon movie t-rex in google itll pull it up i know it sounds crazy but i swear that was the original plan
In Sword and Shield, there’s a hiker in Stow-On-Side that speaks Spanish. So that hints at Spain, Mexico, or other Spanish speaking countries. Also, Copperajah is directly based on an Indian elephant, but is stated to have come from “another region,” not India. Which ties up the loose end of the "indian elephant" statements made in the Pokedex, since Copperajah is based on an indian elephant and so should be from India, but is from "another region," implying there is a Pokemon world equivalent of India. Also I have to say, the idea of Kanto being close to Alola because people from Kanto settled it doesn’t make sense. Plenty of places throughout world history have been settled by people from very different countries.
Yeah that didn't make sense, but considering that to the places they are based on, Hawaii and Japan, also kinda have the same thing going on, in maps, its actual people and how they are separated, I wouldn't doubt it.
While that makes sense, it depends on how long ago they settled, since if it was really long ago, they probably wouldn't have been able to get a very large foothold in alola if it wasn't relatively close, since it'd be harder to send a lot of people and boats to alola
I’m surprised you placed unova so close to kanto even though in black and white skyla says to professor Cedric juniper, “And you’re talking as if places like Kanto and Sinnoh are right around the corner!”
Yeah I'd also think them a bit further away, yet the ocean between them might be bigger than actually presented in the map, explaining the distance and still adhering to where they are in the map.
@@BirdKeeperToby Dude, just use real world example. This pokemon global map you coming up in your head is far too inconsistent. There will be more games and it will inconsist a lot of what you say. There a reason why developer go to the real world area and use that as a template to creating their games. In fact, the game itself even show us the actual planet Earth Map that is similar to ours, which contradict everything you say.
@@DaiMie Yes, of course there will be more games. But we want a map anyway. It's just interesting to see where the regions are placed, and of course, with due time, the map will keep being updated and become bigger and bigger with every new game. There's no harm in wanting to get answers, right?
Does anyone happen to realize any time there's any map showing the region it's for some reason always covered by clouds? It's like game freak is trying to hide the geography of the planet from us.
Not entirely true. There are literal people out there who have a boat and travel across the world with it. In fact, Swimmer doing it isn't impossible either. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beno%C3%AEt_Lecomte
@@DaiMie Considering humans in the Pokemon world are slightly superhuman (Some have psychic powers, use aura, fighters can break rocks, see spirits ect.) It wouldn't suprise me that some swimmers can swim REALLY far.
@@revolvingworld2676 Well, according to one of the myths in the Sinnoh region, there "was a time when there existed no differences to distinguish the two," referring to pokemon and humans. So, if that is taken very literally, this could mean that pokemon and humans actually diverged from a common ancestor over time. I'm not sure what they would call this sort of real-world evolution in the Pokemon universe, since evolution is obviously something different to them. However, the Pokedex does also have several entries that implies natural selection. For example, in Pokemon Sun, Chinchou's entry states that "its two antennae were originally fins," and in Pokemon Moon, the fossil pokemon Tirtouga's entry states, "reputed to be the ancestor of most turtle pokemon, it lived in warm seas approximately a hundred million years ago." So, the fact that there are certain humans with special abilities might actually be the remnants of ancient pokemon powers. Sort of like how snakes are very rarely born with tiny legs, because their parents happen to be carriers of the ancient, degraded gene for legs.
In the first ranger game, Sinnoh is described as "somewhere far away" In the second ranger game, the egg is "returned to its habitat" and "drifted from a faraway sea" In Guardian Signs, the egg is to by sent to a "trainer from another region" None of them mention Sinnoh being the closest region. Bulbapedia claims that the games mention this but... perhaps it is the Japanese versions that say it? Because the English versions don't.
@@j2dragon109 1. I know. Fiore, Almia and Oblivia. I've played the games. I agree with Toby that these 3 regions are likely close to one another but my point is that nowhere in any of these games does it mention Sinnoh being close. 2. The only screenshot is @14:56. He displayed it once. It isn't even the "faraway" quote. He mentioned Sinnoh being the closest region @3:13 and @6:30 but again, there is no quote from any of the games that explicitly states that Sinnoh is close.
@@JoseRodriguez-qs6qi Still, assuming people in pokemon have the same skill as people in the real word. The only real world places where that happens is the straight of dover (and possibly some other places, but that's easily the most famous), but those connections are still really close. And all of that is still really exhausting and a roughly half day swim.
@@relo999 A war between kyogre and groudon took place between kalos and hoenn hence the reason if their primal forms, steven and alan did fight along side each other that day meaning it could have been fairly close.
@@dragonbournee5270 Except there is no mention of that in the games, where the swimmer is. Alan doesn't exist in the games. And the anime rarely lines up with the games beyond some notable points like big city names, gym leaders and some spots.
@@relo999 In the delta episode of ORAS Steven mentions fighting alongside a guy with a black charizard, and even if it was just a coincidence (or reference) the anime geography should be or atleast close to the games geography.
I'm pretty sure Galar is close to Kalos. There's a very high chance that the darkest day happened because of AZ firing the ultimate weapon, since both events happened at the same time. That wouldn't make sense if Galar was far from Kalos.
Decades later, GameFreak has exhausted all Earthly locations and decided to release a game featuring all the regions and revealing a World Map of the Pokemon World.
Additionally if we are to use moving continents as a tool then we must use real life equivalents like tectonic movement. For example: South America and Africa were once part of the same landmass but split millions of years ago and drifted apart through millennia. Now Madagascar and Africa were once connected but so was India. India, after splitting from Africa, floated around as an island before colliding with Asia and forming the Himalayas. But because of their shared time as one landmass you can find animals that look similar (and are from the same common ancestor) as well as fossils. But they aren’t close to each other. So using Regigigas as an example it is possible that the borders Kalos shares with Hoenn and Johto look like they line up perfectly because they were probably once on the same landmass but were torn and moved by Regigigas to their current location. It also makes more sense for the Regis to be found in Hoenn if it was closer to Sinnoh as Ancient Peoples may not have had been capable of traversing such long distances such as having Kalos and the continent south of it creating such a huge distance between Sinnoh and Hoenn.
The swimmer saying he swam all the way to Kalos from Hoenn is most definitely a hint to ORAS considering the couple in the hotel saying different wedding anniversaries are the Ruby and Sapphire anniversaries. So I don’t think that the swimmer is anything of a hint as to where Kalos is aside from a hint at the next games
7:15 I think the word you want is actually cartographer. Professional map maker. Also, side note that has very little to do with the video, in Pokémon Masters they give Fantina a French accent, but none of the other Kalos trainers have it and it annoys me a bit.
I’m the anime only 1 person has a French accent, which is weird considering Kalos was based of off France... It was the Pokémon performance guy that had one.
I love that you made the connection between Alola and the Orange Islands. That just annoys me that noone counts it, it's clearly Alola's predecessor. Ash won the Orange League, and Alola The Orange League 'gyms' have puzzles, like Alola Alternate method of traveling, Ash uses Lapras
@@bastionsea2829 The orange island location on the anime maps are in the same location as the sevii islands in in game maps. Both of which roughly line up with the real world Izu and bonin islands. To argue that the Alola in some way connected or are part of or a stand-in to the orange islands in the Anime you'd have to ignore either that the map in the anime is wrong on the location of the orange islands. That the location of the sevii islands is wrong in the games. And ignore it's real world counterpart. (on top of that the whole "Kanto is close but far away" of in-game text makes sense if you look at a real world map of Hawaii and Japan. Kanto is the closest known Pokemon region to Alola, if you use the real world as the goto, but distance wise still really far away. If the Alola was an orange islands stand in Kanto would simply just be close by when looking at maps from the anime) Or in simple terms what is the orange islands in the anime are the sevii islands in game
@@relo999 did we not just watch an entire video talking about the inconsistencies between media and how 'next to' does not necessarily mean 'adjacent to'?
@@bastionsea2829 "next to" does mean "adjacent to". But the only connection the orange islands and alola has is that they're both largely tropical group of islands and there are gym challenges that aren't just battles (but rather something else and a battle). The last being already present since the first gen games, and arguably the orange islands were just showing of that idea rather than just showing the battles. Which really just leaves them both being a tropical island group. The sevii islands are also tropical however and have far more in common with the orange islands.
Considering that pokémon straight up rewrote their who world I'm not surprised if our poke map needs to be redone so good work. The world used to be the real world
Its pretty obvious that 'France' is just another word/term for 'Kalos', same with Indian Elefants and all that. I'm pretty sure what Chairman Rose owns is an 'Indian Elefant', ya know. I think we should all come around and accept this as Canon.
I've always believed that, like World of Warcraft, the universe is just an alternate reality of Earth. The places line up on the globe but the actions and happening are unique to that world.
I use to be a hardcore wow player and heavy into the lore. What could you possibly be referencing? I have no idea what you could possibly even connect?
Wasn't Mew found on the Andes mountain range in southamerica? Or was that not in the games? Edit: also, is it not possible that the world map is different in the different "parallel universes"? So references from the first generations might contradict the remakes 🤔
I believe it said mew was found in the rainforests of Guyana in South America. What I found interesting is that that rainforest in the real world is called the Iwokrama Rainforest. It also goes through a place called French Guiana. That area of land is part of France even though it's in South America. So it wouldn't be too far of a stretch that in the Pokemon world Guyana is a disconnected part of Kalos.
I'm so glad you included the Pokemon Ranger game regions I consider Oblivia to be my Ocs main region aside from the main Series games, but seeing that the regions are closest to Sinnohworks since Platinum was one of my first pokemon games. ☺😊
I had hoped when I became a TH-camr I would have been able to cover a video like this but maybe in due time when more regions come out I'll have a chance to cover those instead this was a great video.
THANK YOU TOBY OH MY WORD, I have literally tried to correct so many people/youtubers/comment sections on the galar region not being “British” but English instead. This is super frustrating for me as I’m from Belfast so trust me I would notice if there was even a slight hint of NI being represented by any sort of town/area in galar
ScionStorm yeh I could see it being based on the Scottish highlands but I guess we’ll just have to see, isle of armour but i thought might have been the Isle of Man so I was disappointed to see it’s practically Japan again
Is there a way to find bearings for any regions using probopass/nosepass (NPCs, not battle sprites) because their noses are said to always point north?
As far as I am aware, there are none of them present in the games. But it wouldn't really help unless you knew the geography. The only time that idea was ever used is Detective Pikachu in the game on the ship. Because the Nosepass couldn't move, he couldn't see the pokemon who stole art.
That being said, because we have no idea where Ryme City is, which I think is probably somewhere similar to Unova or Kalos, if not in those regions, it doesn't really help much.
Its pretty obvious that 'France' is just another word/term for 'Kalos', same with Indian Elefants and all that. I'm pretty sure what Chairman Rose owns is an 'Indian Elefant', ya know. I think we should all come around and accept this as Canon.
Here's a wild theory: game freak never considered a unified world when writing dialogue and just did whatever sounded good at the exact moment that they had to code it in there
@@nithishprabhu1259 Hmmm Unova is based on America so it would make sense guessing based on history in our world that galar once controlled Unova but they might have later had there own revolution.....one of them might then get Kalos involved supporting the war.......this also supports some form of conflict that was mentioned to cause Kyrum, Resheram, and Zekrom to split.........Interesting....very interesting this is a good connection to the two Kings mentioned in both generations I hope game freak takes this further.......
The way I personally address all of the in game references to the real world, or to real animals, is that they are simply place holders until a future game introduces a region or Pokémon that is it's equivalent. As you say, any Diamond and Pearl remakes would likely refer to Fantina as being from Kalos, and likewise if a future game includes Raichu's Pokédex entry about being able to knock out an Indian Elephant, I suspect it will instead refer to Copperajah. If we apply this retroactively we can also eliminate a few other references to the real world. Lt. Surge who is also known as the "Lightning American" could perhaps be the "Lightning Unovan", which is hinted at by dialogue at the World Tournament in Black 2 and White 2. Even if he's not from Unova he could be from a different, currently unreleased region, set on the same landmass and based on a different part of the USA. As far as placing the regions is concerned, I believe there is one major piece of evidence missed out here: Shellos and Gastrodon. In all of the Sinnoh games, the distribution of these Pokémon is obvious, West Sea Shellos on the west of Mt. Coronet and East Sea Shellos on the east. However, in other regions Shellos and Gastrodon are not distributed in the same way. In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, both East Sea and West Sea Shellos are available on Routes 103 and 110, though only one form in each game. What is more interesting is the distribution of Shellos and Gastrodon in Kalos, Alola and Galar. In Kalos you can only catch West Sea Gastrodon in the Friend Safari, which is notably on the EAST of the region. In Alola, East Sea Gastrodon can be cought on Poni Wilds, the most WESTERN point in the region. And in Galar only East Sea Shellos is native, though they are spread fairly evenly east to west. Therefore, I believe that Shellos are perhaps distributed not depending on which coast they are on but which side of a global east-west divide they are on. By looking at their distribution within each region, they are most populous in Sinnoh which could imply that they were originally from Sinnoh, and the presence of an east-west divide (Mt. Coronet) could explain the existence of two different forms, which then spread across the remainder of the world. If we take this to be the case, we could then place Kalos, Alola and Galar on one side or the other, while Hoenn would perhaps be in line with Sinnoh, seeing as it is the only other region home to both forms of Shellos.
Alola and Galar are east of Sinnoh with Unova being in between them, while Kalos is west of Japan (But its Eastern border touches the west of Japanese regions). This way, both Alolan and Galarian western borders face Sinnohs eastern border. I think the world looks like this as we currently know it. Kanto and Johto connected. Kanto is in the East and Johto is in the west. Hoenn is too the South of Johto, West from the Sevii Islands Sinnoh is to the NorthEast of Johto and NorthWest of Kanto, connecting them via the Sinjoh Ruins Kalos is west of Johto and Sinnoh, Northeast from Hoenn (So basically the starter town in Kalos touches Water going to Hoenn) West of Kalos is Galar (As such, its east from Sinnoh) Alola is West from Kanto. Unova is west from Galar and east from Alola. This is basically the only explanation you can make about the East Sea and West Sea Shellos appearance in the regions.
It could be an altered form of Pangea. The continents didn't spread out entirely because both Kyogre and Groudon both went into sleep so continents stopped moving as much or they were the cause for it slowing down. But civilizations that were already separated already began having their own unique traits.
Kanto Johto Hoenn Sinnoh- various Japanese islands Unova - US (specifically NYC) Kalos - France Alola - Hawaii Galar - UK, upcoming DLCs Isle of Man (Isle of Armour) Scotland - Crown Tundra
@@lumbagovideosnew5915 anyone who's interested in knowing it will already know it as its common knowledge for a pokemon fan, plus toby mentions it in this video
*GALAR IS NEAR KALOS* In the anime, when the scene zoomed out from Kalos to space, there was an island next to Kalos freakishly shaped like Galar similar to how France is near to Britain.
I am a bit of a geography and worldbuilding nerd, so I've been trying to estimate where the Pokémon regions are based on things like climate, species distribution (especially Shellos), and in game lore. What it seems so far is that it roughly lines up with the real world, but with differences. Some differences include Hoenn seemingly being just south of Sevii, land being more evenly distributed between "Eurasia" and "North America", and then the horrible enigma that is Galar. Galar seems to be located off the West coast of Pokémon's "South America", close to the antarctic, which is evidenced by the formation of deserts around the region, the fact that Shellos implies it is east of Sinnoh (and seemingly Hoenn, where both forms occur), the fact that in the south, it is below freezing year round at sea level, the abundance of Unovan Pokémon, and the existence of Stow-on-Side, which seems to reference Andean culture. As for the swimmers, they could either be lying or they have been able to swim around the world by taking breaks on islands/coasts, and by being supehuman by our standards. This wouldn't surprise me, I mean we see swimmers doing laps in the ocean on water routes for Pete's sake! And to add to the idea that humans are just tougher in the Pokémon world, look at Kukui, who constantly lets Pokémon attack him! Also a minor nitpick, according to Bulbapedia, Sinnoh has been said to be an island, and Sinnoh was actually said to be fairly far from Fiore. These might be wrong or only apply to the anime, idk, but that's what I read.
After I’ve seen a couple gen 9 trailers, I came back here and the the fact that it’s Spain next is so awesome because there is an easy area below kalos to put the new region! I’m not saying the game devos are using your map but I’m not not saying it either 😉
@Bird Keeper Toby You mentioned Sevii Islands (FR/LG) & Faraway Island (Emerald), but you didn't even mention Birth Island, Navel Rock, or Southern Island...all also from Gen 3?
Hoenn has to be near Kanto’s Sevii Islands, when considering the event islands for Ho-oh, Lugia, and Deoxys. It also needs to be near Sinnoh, because of the Regis being in both Hoenn and Sinnoh. Or it’s all just a wild goose chase for a map that can’t feasibly exist, but eh, whatever.
i feel the sinnoh/hoenn connection can be pretty loose the regis aren't tied to hoenn, just sealed there, same with regigigas except it's only held in snowpoint, whereas the regis showed up sealed in unova (and soon galar, as well)
Hoenn is Kyushu Japan, while Sinnoh is Hokkaido Japan. Sevii Islands are islands to the south of Kanto. Just go west from the Sevii Islands & you should find yourself in the waters of Hoenn.
@@nickdentoom1173 The Anime Pokearth is a lot more confusing thanks to anime exclusive locations. While some cities could just be districts of existing cities like the place from Hypno's Nap Time being part of Celadon City for example. Then you had the crazy route mistakes between Cerulean City & Vermillion City. That's just early Season 1 wait until you get to the Orange Islands, Movie Locations & later seasons. The Games though Kanto is literally just an underdeveloped poor man's Tokyo (Kanto of Japan), Johto is Chubu & half of Kansai. Hoenn is Kyushu that was likely rotated by the battle between Groudon & Kyogre or Regigigas. Sinnoh is Hokkaido & the real world Sevii Islands exist as well to the south of Kanto. Unova is based on the area around New York City. Kalos is based on France, Alola is Hawaii, Galar is UK. Orre is supposed to be the Southwestern States with Phenac being based on Phoenix & Realgam Tower having similarities to Las Vegas. The Western Parts like Gateon Port, Pokemon HQ Lab, & Agate Village are supposedly California. It should be noted that we never see the Chugoku or Tohoku regions of Japan in the Pokemon World as well.
In the let’s go games, in the daycare and in the top left house in cerulean city, there is a calendar with a picture of a map. I don’t remember seeing this land anywhere in the Pokémon series, but there’s an island in the north part of the map which looks the sinnoh region. So I think that this map might be the regions connected.
Now I wonder where Ransei would be on the map. It’s from Pokémon Conquest which was a DS game, not sure if anyone remembers it though. If I recall correctly it is canon to the Pokémon world which is pretty neat.
Hailfire Spawn PokeBalls exist in that time. They say near the start of the game that there are people who use PokeBalls in other regions. Just because their customs are old that doesn’t mean it’s before the other games in the timeline.
J2Dragon Yes. I don’t see how that is an issue if it is one. From my knowledge the Mewtwo heads over to Ransei during one of the episodes for the Psychic Warlord. Mewtwo isn’t just one Pokémon, there is more than likely a few dozen Mewtwos made over the years. But yes, there is a Mewtwo.
notice how when your playing a pokemon game, it takes a very short amount of time to get from one place to another. this is why the swimmer can get from one region to another so quickly.
In Xatu's gen 2 entry it mentions South America. Kanto Raichu's in S&M mentions India Ponyta's mentions Ayer's Rock (gen 2). The Pokemon world is clearly supposed to be Earth but slightly weird Also, as for Kanto people settling Alola is based on real life, where a very large population of Hawaii is Japanese.
I love the work you put into this, and it all seems to be correct, but I think you're forgetting one important factor, which is Shellos and Gastrodon. I'm basing this on Bulbapedia, but in every pair of games which are based in one region, only one form of Shellos and Gastrodon are available in the wild (except for ORAS where both, and Unova where neither are present in the wild). If you take a look at which form of Shellos and Gastrodon appear in which games, then you can get a rough picture of which region should be located East and West of Mount Coronet, therefore Shinnoh. Based on this, Galar should be located East to Sinnoh, since you can only get Shellos's East sea form in Sword and Shield. Maybe Hoenn is exactly South of Sinnoh (with Johto and Kanto in between), and that's why you can get both kinds of Shellos there, maybe routes 103 and 110 are directly South of Mount Coronet, since those are the routes where you can obtain Shellos in ORAS. A different thing - where do you think Pasio from Pokemon Masters would be located?
You do realize that the regions are not just based on real world places, but every single one of them looks incredibly similar to said place. Kanto is the exact same as the Kantō Region of Japan. The reason Johto borders Kanto is because it’s based on the real world Kansai and Chūbu Regions. Hoenn is just the Ryukyu Islands of Japan flipped horizontally. The Sevii Islands are based on Ogasawara, a part of Tokyo which includes the Bonin and Izu Islands. Sinnoh is based on Northern Hokkaido and the southern part of Kunashir Island, an island disputed between Russia and Japan. Unova is based on the NYC Metropolitan Area, which is clear because of it looking exactly like NYC and Eastern New Jersey. It is said to be nowhere near the other regions as well. Kalos is based on Northern France and the Channel Island of Alderney, and is almost exactly in the middle of the first four and Unova. Alola is obviously Hawaii, which putting it somewhat close to Kanto isn’t wrong, just you put it too close to Kanto. Galar is just the Island of Great Britain upside down, more specifically focusing on England and Wales. The two king battle was more likely between Kalos and Galar, which is across the English Channel of this world. The Isle of Armor is the Isle of Man. The Crown Tundra is Scotland. The Orre Region is based off of the Phoenix Metro Area is Arizona. The Sinnoh Battle Zone is based on the southern half of Sakhalin, an island owned by Russia. Fiore is based on the Okoyama and Hyōgo Prefectures and Shōdo Island. Almia is based on the Oshima and Hiyama Subprefectures, which are on the part of Hokkaido that aren’t in Sinnoh, meaning Almia borders Sinnoh. Almia also includes the northernmost tip of Honshū. Oblivia is based on the Oki Islands.
Ya it's kind of hard to figure this thing out without knowing all the regions. It's like trying to do a puzzle without knowing if you have all the pieces or even what the puzzle is supposed to look like. Personally I would really like to do a version of this using physical geography.
You also gotta make sure it lines up with Shellos and Gastrodon. They have different forms depending on which side of Sinnoh they come from. And most of what we have seen are Blue (east) over Pink (west).
But that could also be from populations bringed there, or that are better adapted to the territory. I think they are called that way due to where they are found in their home region rather than all the globe. Still, they are at the East of the map.
In the Pokémon anime it takes about a day to reach Alola from Kanto. I think the two are still too close together, and Alola should be moved further East. Also about Alola being the in-game version of the Orange Islands: I would say that whilst they probably had a lot of inspiration from Orange, I don’t think they are the same thing. Again in the anime, the characters visit both areas and they are clearly separate. And we know regional variations exist not just in Alola but Galar, too, so the argument that they are the same based on their closeness and the regional variants doesn't really hold up. Best to keep them as separate territories. Anyway, I think Orange is still classed as Kanto anyway.
Honestly, I think you should just put Galar where you have Unova now and move Unova closer to the spin-off regions. It would easily allow for Kalos's war to be fought vs Galar and allow for the swimming between Kalos and Galar. The only problem I can see with putting Galar to the west of the main island with Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh, and Kalos is that you find East sea Shellos and Gastrodon in Galar, which implies it would be East of Sinnoh. However, if you do that, then the person would have had to have swam around Sinnoh or Kanto and Johto to get to Galar.
To your country thingy, remeber that the National dex implies all of those regions are from the same country. The only regions that don't have a national dex are Alola and Galar, we know that Galar is because of the cut but what if we swipped places of it with Hoenn and that explains everything. Alola and Galar are diferent countries but Kanto, Jotho, Hoenn, Sinnoh, Unova and Kalos are in the same country which also fits geographycally with your map.
No, Kanto Johto Hoenn and Sinnoh are all based off various islands in Japan. Unova is US (which is why its specifically stated that it's so far away from the first four regions and is only accessible by plane, and has no pokemon native from previous gens) Kalos is france, Eiffel Tower- Luminous city, many French references in game. Alola is obviously Hawaii, and then Galar is based off the UK, the expansions based off Isle of Man (Isle of Armour) and Scotland (crown tundra)
In raichus dex entry the indian elephant referenced could be cufant or copperajah pretty cool how they foreshadow stuff that nobody understands till 3 years later
@@DaiMie I mean, some countries COULD ally with others. The anime did teach us well about how far the power of friendship can go after all :') jokes aside however, its stated in an entry that reshiram and zekrom created kalos, so idk.
Thank you for recognising Plymouth, when I first played through the game and got to Hulbery I was so excited to see my childhood city in a pokemon game! Except whenever I googled it people said it was portsmouth ... the hoe, lighthouse and even the townhouses are identical to plymouth harbour so seeing at least one other person recognise it as Plymouth really made my day! Thank you, and great video! Very interesting !!
Alright, I'll address the elephant in the room, you claimed he parallel earth theory doesn't hold up because of a swimmer swimming from Hoenn to Kalos, but he doesn't say he swam the whole way in one go, he could have swam the trim in chunks stopping in other regions on the way, in which case, parallel earth theory doesn't really have any significant breaking rebuttals, right?
For me the pokemon world is a variant of earth that lines up close to our geography with some differences like England being upside down. Fiore is based on the Aomori prefecture of Japan, Almia is the southern tip of Hokkaido, and I believe Oblivia is based on the island of Nishinoshima. It's possible for Fiore and Almia to be switched, im not sure.
Thank you so much toby!!! Your videos get me through these hard times!! Id love for you to make a vid of the top ten moments of the Electric tale of pikachu, and your thoughts!! Once again thank you so much -dragon breeder mykal
the bottom of the planet looks so empty, with that huge of an ocean there is no way all the water is staying liquid at that latitude. You really should place in a frozen south pole.
Has anyone thought about how Shellos is tied into this? You can find the west sea form in the western half of Sinnoh and in Kalos, and can find the east sea form in the eastern half of Sinnoh, Alola, and Galar. Also Paldea is probably southwest of Kalos.
@@banzanablox872 But the area of Kanto itself on the real world map can fit in the UK itself. You need to remember the maps in these games are inconsistent, and does not always HAVE to be the same size as the real world. Look at the number 8 image of this link. www.buzzfeed.com/simoncrerar/tokyo-is-a-mega-city Just saying, he could've made Galar bigger and actually match up with Kalos.
Wow man! Really cool to see this world map of Pokémon revisited after so long! It’s always been one of ur coolest theories in my opinion. It’s nice to see the regions positioned logically in the world
Want a simpler to pronounce example of a country with part of it separated quite a bit? The US. Alaska is separated from it by part of Canada. Hawaii is pretty far off the coast, enough to not properly fit on a map of the US in the right area. Then there's the interpretation of them including colonies, thus part of the country but at the same time not. Like until a colony earns recognition, some people will call it part of the country that owns it, some will consider it separate. But that's a harder to prove option
I'm really hoping that they confirm Kabu is the former Lavaridge Town gym leader and have Whitney in the dlc. They need some fanservice (other than Kanto) to sprinkle into the dlc.
Hoenn has to be close to johto because of 1 island that was featured in Pokémon heroes latios and latias named alto mare and by johto anime exclusive locations on bulbapedia this is said about it Alto Mare is known as the city of water and is the Johto region's Venice. It is an island in between Johto's southwestern coast and the islands of eastern Hoenn. Alto Mare is the setting of Pokémon Heroes: Latios & Latias.
Ok whenever ANY youtuber says "let's just jump into it" they cut to PhillyD and I love it. God he's so iconic lol. I love jumping into it, jumping into things is tight.
From '24 per, I think that Kalos, Galar & Unova are next to each other, Galar being north to Kalos & Unova west to Kalos. I think, that Fiore region is between Kalos t Johto. Paldea is south to Kalos & Almia is south to Sinnoh. Alola is near equator, south to Sevii & Faraway Island is part of Guyana region, that is now the only region on the southern hemiosphere of Pokearth now, bur we can still now more. Katakami is in mountains between Paldea & Kalos, this is applicateble also to Orre region. Oblivia is south to Fiore & is part of the same archipelago as island, where is Cianwood City of Johto. An alternative: Alternative option than this above is: •Almia is still south to Kalos, but, also west to Johto & east to Kalos, being instead of Fiore. Orre is south to Unova. But I like more this 1st option.
With further research I found out that kitakami is based on tohoku Japan which is northeast of kanto in the real world. So I think that kitakami would fit perfectly a little bit northeast of kanto.
every region has been based on their respective real work locations, putting them right where they would be in the real world. yes pokemon plays with the geography a bit, but i can tell you now there ws a man irl who attempted to swim from france to japan. it was a thing. that aside each region has routes, gen 1-4 had continuous routes where every other region in other parts of the world all start from 1 again cause they arnt connected. if you are going to ignore some stuff just to make other stuff work then might as well throw it all out and stick with the pokemon worth just being regular earth but with pokemon and an alternate history
I’m not sure if this is game fact or fiction, but I believe at one point in the development of RSE that the area around Fallarbor was going to connect to Johto’s Claswood like how Kanto connects to Johto This was supported by the fact that these games were supposed to be the last and Sinnoh wasn’t supposed to exist. Not sure if this was true or not, but I remember a PokeTuber speak of it from an interview or something
Take a look at a map of real world Japan & compare it to maps of the Pokemon World, you'll notice Hokkaido looks exactly like Sinnoh. Kanto region is likely based on the geography of the real world Kanto region, only Tokyo never became a Mega City in Pokemon's World. Hoenn is Japan's Kyushu Region rotated 90 Degrees. Galar is an upsidedown UK from what we understand. We can only assume that either Galar views the world upsidedown with South being where North should be or something in the Pokemon World is capable of rotating entire islands. It should be noted that there are 2 Japanese Regions that Pokemon never really gave us according to Wikipedia. Honshu the main Japanese Island has 5 real world regions Chugoku, Kansai, Chubu, & Kanto from West to East & then the Tohoku region to the north of Kanto & Chubu. Pokemon's Johto region is based on Eastern Kansai & Chubu. We need to someday visit the region based on Chugoku & Western Kansai as I suspect we'll find routes 49-100 there & in Northern Johto. Route 200 is probably a route that connects Sinnoh to the mystery region based on Tohoku. Because of how many small sets of Islands surround Japan I have no clue what the Sevii & Orange Islands are supposed to represent. Wikipedia claims there's the Izu Islands directly south of Kanto & then the Bonin Islands further south than that. bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world is a rough estimation although even then there's some question as to how much of Kansai is included in Johto & how far north Kanto & Johto of the games actually extend for Honshu. Good luck trying to discover the secrets of PokeEarth.
People are assuming that the Pokemon Region map is based on our Earth map; however, that is completely false. Even though Galar is based on UK and Kalos is based on France, there aren't close to each other in the Pokemon map. Also, assuming a Pokemon region that didn't exist until it gets revealed is also misleading, as we seen many characters like Professor Oak and James had said they been to Hoenn and Sinnoh before, before Pokemon introduced those regions to us
Its so weird seeing a person coming to understand enclaves. You never know what a persons gaps in knowledge are and whether what you consider general knowledge could be completely foreign to another person.
I always thought of pokemon being in the far future, where plate tectonics jumbled things around but there still was some memory or resemblance of our present world. Also, there was colonization from Asia over the Pacific ocean, so I don't see it to be very strange, plus it is a very long voyage from Japan to America via the pacific.
I had to argue with Americans on tik tok that thought galar was in Australia just coz all the characters say mate. Like. Mate English people say it just as much as us aussies
We know based on the anime that Unova Alola are probably the farthest regions from Kanto so that probably means the map is probably based on the real world with slightly geographical differences but in the same locations Galar is definitely near Unova and Kalos just look at the pokemon in the Galar dex
Well....there are Swimmer in the real world who literally swam across the world before. So having him going from Sinnoh which is based in Japan and going to Kalos, isn't entirely impossible. Also, if he swim inland, like rivers, he have a lot of places to take rest and will get there quickly. But if he go coastal of the main land, it would take awhile.
tommy flores. We don't really know if he's lying or not. Maybe for now Toby assumed that it's real and went on with it. Also, this is isn't really official so it doesn't really have to be perfect.
I'm pretty confident that Galar is North of Kalos, if you look at the bottom right hand corner, the ocean/rivers, mountains, and trees match up almost perfectly with the top middle right of Kalos. Check near the bottom of the page in the link for the image. nintendosoup.com/could-pokemon-sword-and-shields-galar-region-be-connected-to-the-kalos-region/
I always pictured Orre between Aloha and Unova. Orre being Arizona/California based and Unova being NYC having Aloha off the coast a bit near the Sevi islands.
Galar is huge, how is it tinier than kanto?? From your map your basically saying the distance from the most northern part of galar to the most southern is shorter than kantos cycling road, nah bruh. That doesnt fly.
Not sure if this was mentioned, but this may help stabilize certain theories. In Log Horizon, when the map of the in game world was being explained, they mention how the distance between the towns is half of what the real-world equivalence would be. They referred to this as the “Half Gaia Project”. If we were to take the in game designs of the towns in all prior Pokémon games, replaced a single house with about 2-3 city blocks equivalence of buildings, it would help to visualize what it would look like as an actual town/city. Pallet Town would be more than just 2 houses and a laboratory to study Pokémon. It would help fill in a lot of gaps in the continents or help shape the size of the supposed planet that this world resides in.
Hope you're all looking after yourselves Pokemon Masters
Am binge watching your vids pal, much thanks
Discarding your whole transfer rule for the side games, Ferrum could just be south of Kalos, either on the same continent like the Pokémon version of Africa separated by a river or just some island off the coast.
no offence but u spelt entire wrong in the desc
Umm cheese alerts
I'm still sad that I missed the Oak and Mew event and the Sygna Suit Red event:(
Maybe Raichu’s dex entry was foreshadowing Copperajah, the Indian elephant Pokémon that is said to have come from “another region long ago”
Electric Pokemon powerful enough to shock a Steel Pokemon. I guess it's a good thing Copperajah wasn't half ground type.
I'm pretty sure the only Indiana elephants are in zoos or circuses.
@@emc246 indian
@@thenintenbro7154 r/whoosh
Indian elephants are endagangered, but still live in the wild.
After looking into this a bit more, I've managed to discover something that I think would more place each region more accurately and that being the Pokemon, Shellos and Gastrodon.
If you don't know, Shellos and Gastrodon have two different forms depending on which side they appear on Sinnoh's mountain ranges aka. Mt. Coronet, the West Sea and East Sea Form. However, Shellos and Gastrodon have appeared in the wild in other regions with their unique forms but what's interesting about this is that since then, only one form of the Shellos line has appeared in the wild. And because of this, it pretty much confirms that Sinnoh is in the middle of the Pokemon Earth if you flatten it out on a map and should be somewhat straightforward to roughly pinpoint where each region is based on that fact.
In Kalos, you go to the Friend Safari, you'll be able to only find West Sea Gastrodon which does fit where it appears on your map. In Alola, if you go to Poni Island, you'll be able to only find East Sea Gastrodon where if you move every region on your map to the left, then would fit as well. In Galar, throughout the region, you'll be able to only find East Sea forms of the Shellos Line where it would need to be moved on the map in order the fit. And in the Pokemon Ranger games, Shadows of Almia and Guardian Signs, you can find only the West Sea Shellos Line and I think putting around where the Orre Region is would make it fit a bit better.
Now the interesting ones are where they can be found in Johto and Hoenn, regions where they didn't exist prior to Gen 4. In Johto, you can actually find a West Sea Shellos on the Pokewalker (which is likely somewhere around Johto/close to Sinnoh) making it fit on your current map but then we get to Hoenn that's more difficult where depending on which version, you can encounter both forms of Shellos which would seem impossible, but I think the way we can make this work is like what you said where Groudon or Kyorge managed to destroy a good chunk of Hoenn in the past so much that it potentally moved it slightly to either the West or East or maybe the simple way is that Regigigas moved Hoenn it slightly further in one version compared to the other.
Now of course, this is just a bit of an observation that was just made for fun, but it would be cool that maybe when you do another revision of the map in the future, potentially when Gen 9 comes out, then you could take this observation into account.
I always assumed that Hoenn was directly south of Sinnoh.
Also, Hello from the future! Apparently both forms can also be found in Paldea. However, East Sea is apparently decreasing in number, while West Sea is increasing. To me that says Paldea is East of Sinnoh, but West Sea is expanding its range and displacing it
Now that Gen 9 is out, we have a problem with this theory. Both forms of Shellos/Gastrodon can be found in Paldea, and they are distributed with respect to the Paldea region itself. West Sea is found on beaches on the Western side of the region, while East Sea is found on beaches on the Eastern side.
Pokemon appears to be just as consistent as it is inconsistent. Hopefully, at least, Paldea's DLC area will clarify it's position relative to Kalos. It lies in the same part of Paldea as the area Spain and France are located, which are the real world locations they are based on. There's also a lot of speculative evidence that the past Paradox Forms found in Scarlet are probably the source of the forms brought about by Mega Evolution. So having these 2 regions tied closely together would make a lot of sense, given the 2 disperate mechanics.
I think the dex entries are for us, that's why the reference the real world.
MeeloMylo no in gen 1 and 2 the canon was the animals USED to exist there was even a movie planned involving a revived t-rex
Also mew was found in South America
@@somerandom3969 Where are you finding this information?
Mew Master Jash its on bulbapedia and other places just type in pokemon movie t-rex in google itll pull it up i know it sounds crazy but i swear that was the original plan
Mew Master Jash www.pokebeach.com/2016/01/original-script-for-3rd-pokemon-movie-involved-a-t-rex
dogasu.bulbagarden.net/movies/pm_lord_unknown_tower_entei/lord_unknown_tower_entei_mythical_third_movie.html
In Sword and Shield, there’s a hiker in Stow-On-Side that speaks Spanish. So that hints at Spain, Mexico, or other Spanish speaking countries. Also, Copperajah is directly based on an Indian elephant, but is stated to have come from “another region,” not India. Which ties up the loose end of the "indian elephant" statements made in the Pokedex, since Copperajah is based on an indian elephant and so should be from India, but is from "another region," implying there is a Pokemon world equivalent of India.
Also I have to say, the idea of Kanto being close to Alola because people from Kanto settled it doesn’t make sense. Plenty of places throughout world history have been settled by people from very different countries.
Yeah that didn't make sense, but considering that to the places they are based on, Hawaii and Japan, also kinda have the same thing going on, in maps, its actual people and how they are separated, I wouldn't doubt it.
While that makes sense, it depends on how long ago they settled, since if it was really long ago, they probably wouldn't have been able to get a very large foothold in alola if it wasn't relatively close, since it'd be harder to send a lot of people and boats to alola
Kanto and Alola aren't just close cos of the settling thing. It's because your mum tells Hau that Kanto is pretty close to Alola.
@@neckpunch73 yea, which helps this, because she says it's faraway and really close at the same time
@@roxxmaru I just took that as far compared to other towns, but close compared to other regions.
I’m surprised you placed unova so close to kanto even though in black and white skyla says to professor Cedric juniper, “And you’re talking as if places like Kanto and Sinnoh are right around the corner!”
I wouldn’t say they are close on this map. They are still atleast a region away
Yeah I'd also think them a bit further away, yet the ocean between them might be bigger than actually presented in the map, explaining the distance and still adhering to where they are in the map.
@@BirdKeeperToby Dude, just use real world example. This pokemon global map you coming up in your head is far too inconsistent. There will be more games and it will inconsist a lot of what you say. There a reason why developer go to the real world area and use that as a template to creating their games. In fact, the game itself even show us the actual planet Earth Map that is similar to ours, which contradict everything you say.
@@DaiMie Yes, of course there will be more games. But we want a map anyway. It's just interesting to see where the regions are placed, and of course, with due time, the map will keep being updated and become bigger and bigger with every new game. There's no harm in wanting to get answers, right?
@@iiokrammii693 But we arleady know the answer, the Pokemon world is based on our world. The geography is the same.
Does anyone happen to realize any time there's any map showing the region it's for some reason always covered by clouds? It's like game freak is trying to hide the geography of the planet from us.
usually they do that to obscure post-game places, events, etc. The OR/AS map is a great example for this
Only Alola and Galar seem to have clouds covering it
Is because they are a shitty company and havent done anhthing for the story of their world more than loose ends to storys
It happens in Galar mainly to obscure the Crown Tundra. Now that it's out, we can see that Galar is truly an island.
If they show everything that would mean that they have to go by those rules for the rest of the games and that would greatly limit creativity
Pokémon Theory: "Swimmers are all liars"
Not entirely true. There are literal people out there who have a boat and travel across the world with it. In fact, Swimmer doing it isn't impossible either. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beno%C3%AEt_Lecomte
Dead Pool wow
@@DaiMie
Considering humans in the Pokemon world are slightly superhuman (Some have psychic powers, use aura, fighters can break rocks, see spirits ect.)
It wouldn't suprise me that some swimmers can swim REALLY far.
@@revolvingworld2676 Well, according to one of the myths in the Sinnoh region, there "was a time when there existed no differences to distinguish the two," referring to pokemon and humans.
So, if that is taken very literally, this could mean that pokemon and humans actually diverged from a common ancestor over time. I'm not sure what they would call this sort of real-world evolution in the Pokemon universe, since evolution is obviously something different to them. However, the Pokedex does also have several entries that implies natural selection. For example, in Pokemon Sun, Chinchou's entry states that "its two antennae were originally fins," and in Pokemon Moon, the fossil pokemon Tirtouga's entry states, "reputed to be the ancestor of most turtle pokemon, it lived in warm seas approximately a hundred million years ago."
So, the fact that there are certain humans with special abilities might actually be the remnants of ancient pokemon powers. Sort of like how snakes are very rarely born with tiny legs, because their parents happen to be carriers of the ancient, degraded gene for legs.
I don’t really think so. Maybe for the one who traveled from France to Japan, but it is very possible to swim from France to England
In the first ranger game, Sinnoh is described as "somewhere far away"
In the second ranger game, the egg is "returned to its habitat" and "drifted from a faraway sea"
In Guardian Signs, the egg is to by sent to a "trainer from another region"
None of them mention Sinnoh being the closest region. Bulbapedia claims that the games mention this but... perhaps it is the Japanese versions that say it? Because the English versions don't.
MrSylar91
1. Different ranger games have different regions.
2. He has a screenshot of the quote. He displayed it multiple times this episode.
@@j2dragon109
1. I know. Fiore, Almia and Oblivia. I've played the games. I agree with Toby that these 3 regions are likely close to one another but my point is that nowhere in any of these games does it mention Sinnoh being close.
2. The only screenshot is @14:56. He displayed it once. It isn't even the "faraway" quote. He mentioned Sinnoh being the closest region @3:13 and @6:30 but again, there is no quote from any of the games that explicitly states that Sinnoh is close.
MrSylar91 Oh I am sorry. I’ll have to look through his last videos to see if it’s there, if not, well then you’re probably right.
Me: countries with huge parts of the country separated? That seems silly
The entire state of Alaska: Am I a joke to you?
Man I forgot about Alaska
*cough* British empire *cough*
swimming from japan to french dude was definitely talking out his ass trying to impress girls
Yeah
i think its possible that the dude that swam from kalos to hoenn was lying lol
Or he took breaks like a boat that could be next to him for emergencies
@@JoseRodriguez-qs6qi Still, assuming people in pokemon have the same skill as people in the real word. The only real world places where that happens is the straight of dover (and possibly some other places, but that's easily the most famous), but those connections are still really close. And all of that is still really exhausting and a roughly half day swim.
@@relo999 A war between kyogre and groudon took place between kalos and hoenn hence the reason if their primal forms, steven and alan did fight along side each other that day meaning it could have been fairly close.
@@dragonbournee5270 Except there is no mention of that in the games, where the swimmer is. Alan doesn't exist in the games. And the anime rarely lines up with the games beyond some notable points like big city names, gym leaders and some spots.
@@relo999 In the delta episode of ORAS Steven mentions fighting alongside a guy with a black charizard, and even if it was just a coincidence (or reference) the anime geography should be or atleast close to the games geography.
Galar has to be east of Sinnoh because shellos east sea form is the only version of shellos found in galar
i was looking for this
I'm pretty sure Galar is close to Kalos. There's a very high chance that the darkest day happened because of AZ firing the ultimate weapon, since both events happened at the same time. That wouldn't make sense if Galar was far from Kalos.
I absolutely agree
and that's make sense with next Sinnoh remake if Gamefreak bringback Dynamax to Sinnoh, cause that 2 regions are close each other.
the eastern direction is relative to where you are in the world. In asia the americas are east but in europe asia is east and americas are west
Decades later, GameFreak has exhausted all Earthly locations and decided to release a game featuring all the regions and revealing a World Map of the Pokemon World.
Additionally if we are to use moving continents as a tool then we must use real life equivalents like tectonic movement. For example: South America and Africa were once part of the same landmass but split millions of years ago and drifted apart through millennia. Now Madagascar and Africa were once connected but so was India. India, after splitting from Africa, floated around as an island before colliding with Asia and forming the Himalayas. But because of their shared time as one landmass you can find animals that look similar (and are from the same common ancestor) as well as fossils. But they aren’t close to each other. So using Regigigas as an example it is possible that the borders Kalos shares with Hoenn and Johto look like they line up perfectly because they were probably once on the same landmass but were torn and moved by Regigigas to their current location. It also makes more sense for the Regis to be found in Hoenn if it was closer to Sinnoh as Ancient Peoples may not have had been capable of traversing such long distances such as having Kalos and the continent south of it creating such a huge distance between Sinnoh and Hoenn.
but the rivers
The swimmer saying he swam all the way to Kalos from Hoenn is most definitely a hint to ORAS considering the couple in the hotel saying different wedding anniversaries are the Ruby and Sapphire anniversaries. So I don’t think that the swimmer is anything of a hint as to where Kalos is aside from a hint at the next games
I believe the man who says that is found in ORAS Hoenn, so I don’t think that’s what it refers to.
yea, at 13:01 that's brenden, not calem or serena
Yeah, there’s one in Galar that claims to have swam from Sinnoh.
I can’t believe that for the UK and Northern Japan are so far apart
@@Galarticuno that's hinting at the next game not the regions being close '.'
@@Galarticuno you find east sea shellos in galar so maybe
7:15 I think the word you want is actually cartographer. Professional map maker.
Also, side note that has very little to do with the video, in Pokémon Masters they give Fantina a French accent, but none of the other Kalos trainers have it and it annoys me a bit.
I’m the anime only 1 person has a French accent, which is weird considering Kalos was based of off France...
It was the Pokémon performance guy that had one.
And here the PMD world got a canon world map in Super.
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I love that you made the connection between Alola and the Orange Islands.
That just annoys me that noone counts it, it's clearly Alola's predecessor.
Ash won the Orange League, and Alola
The Orange League 'gyms' have puzzles, like Alola
Alternate method of traveling, Ash uses Lapras
Sevii though.
@@relo999 ?
@@bastionsea2829 The orange island location on the anime maps are in the same location as the sevii islands in in game maps. Both of which roughly line up with the real world Izu and bonin islands.
To argue that the Alola in some way connected or are part of or a stand-in to the orange islands in the Anime you'd have to ignore either that the map in the anime is wrong on the location of the orange islands. That the location of the sevii islands is wrong in the games. And ignore it's real world counterpart.
(on top of that the whole "Kanto is close but far away" of in-game text makes sense if you look at a real world map of Hawaii and Japan. Kanto is the closest known Pokemon region to Alola, if you use the real world as the goto, but distance wise still really far away. If the Alola was an orange islands stand in Kanto would simply just be close by when looking at maps from the anime)
Or in simple terms what is the orange islands in the anime are the sevii islands in game
@@relo999 did we not just watch an entire video talking about the inconsistencies between media and how 'next to' does not necessarily mean 'adjacent to'?
@@bastionsea2829 "next to" does mean "adjacent to". But the only connection the orange islands and alola has is that they're both largely tropical group of islands and there are gym challenges that aren't just battles (but rather something else and a battle). The last being already present since the first gen games, and arguably the orange islands were just showing of that idea rather than just showing the battles. Which really just leaves them both being a tropical island group. The sevii islands are also tropical however and have far more in common with the orange islands.
Considering that pokémon straight up rewrote their who world I'm not surprised if our poke map needs to be redone so good work.
The world used to be the real world
The swimmer could took breaks. He didn’t say he did it all at once.
But swimming all the way from france to japan is not easy even with breaks,he has to cross an entire ocean.
He could have just exaggerated
Yeah, I think he was fibbing
I don’t know, stranger things have happened in Pokémon. Remember the nurse joy that could row many times faster than a Laura’s could swim?
Its pretty obvious that 'France' is just another word/term for 'Kalos',
same with Indian Elefants and all that.
I'm pretty sure what Chairman Rose owns is an 'Indian Elefant', ya know.
I think we should all come around and accept this as Canon.
I've always believed that, like World of Warcraft, the universe is just an alternate reality of Earth. The places line up on the globe but the actions and happening are unique to that world.
World of warcraft doesnt have the same map as earth...
The WoW universe is more like an alternate reality version of a ton of cultures and mythologies than a landmass
I use to be a hardcore wow player and heavy into the lore. What could you possibly be referencing? I have no idea what you could possibly even connect?
Humans are about the only thing I can see..
Wasn't Mew found on the Andes mountain range in southamerica? Or was that not in the games?
Edit: also, is it not possible that the world map is different in the different "parallel universes"? So references from the first generations might contradict the remakes 🤔
Alvichopan in Pokémon origins, instead of saying the Andes, mr Fuji says deep in the Kalos region so that may have been changed.
@@user-gj3ji8dt2f interesting 🤔 so they retconned the existence of Southamerica out of the pokemon world lmao
I believe it said mew was found in the rainforests of Guyana in South America. What I found interesting is that that rainforest in the real world is called the Iwokrama Rainforest. It also goes through a place called French Guiana. That area of land is part of France even though it's in South America. So it wouldn't be too far of a stretch that in the Pokemon world Guyana is a disconnected part of Kalos.
@@EddJM whoa, that actually fits, holy crap
I'm so glad you included the Pokemon Ranger game regions I consider Oblivia to be my Ocs main region aside from the main Series games, but seeing that the regions are closest to Sinnohworks since Platinum was one of my first pokemon games. ☺😊
I had hoped when I became a TH-camr I would have been able to cover a video like this but maybe in due time when more regions come out I'll have a chance to cover those instead this was a great video.
THANK YOU TOBY OH MY WORD, I have literally tried to correct so many people/youtubers/comment sections on the galar region not being “British” but English instead. This is super frustrating for me as I’m from Belfast so trust me I would notice if there was even a slight hint of NI being represented by any sort of town/area in galar
The upcoming Crown Tundra area is probably going to push further north into Scottish highlands.
I'd love there to be a region based on Ireland. There'd be so many cool Pokemon designs.
@@TheFirstShisno the spire
@@TheFirstShisno I know!
ScionStorm yeh I could see it being based on the Scottish highlands but I guess we’ll just have to see, isle of armour but i thought might have been the Isle of Man so I was disappointed to see it’s practically Japan again
Is there a way to find bearings for any regions using probopass/nosepass (NPCs, not battle sprites) because their noses are said to always point north?
As far as I am aware, there are none of them present in the games. But it wouldn't really help unless you knew the geography.
The only time that idea was ever used is Detective Pikachu in the game on the ship. Because the Nosepass couldn't move, he couldn't see the pokemon who stole art.
That being said, because we have no idea where Ryme City is, which I think is probably somewhere similar to Unova or Kalos, if not in those regions, it doesn't really help much.
Its pretty obvious that 'France' is just another word/term for 'Kalos',
same with Indian Elefants and all that.
I'm pretty sure what Chairman Rose owns is an 'Indian Elefant', ya know.
I think we should all come around and accept this as Canon.
Here's a wild theory: game freak never considered a unified world when writing dialogue and just did whatever sounded good at the exact moment that they had to code it in there
*Mr. Masuda he's on to us.*
I was 100% gunna call out the 'let's just jump into it' until the Phillip Defranco clip, a surprising but satisfying crossover
4:46 2 Kings huh? Hmm... like the two kings in the galar region? Interesting 🤔🤔🤔
Also makes sense considering the history of France and Britain
Unova has two twin kings,who also later had a war....interesting
@@nithishprabhu1259 Hmmm Unova is based on America so it would make sense guessing based on history in our world that galar once controlled Unova but they might have later had there own revolution.....one of them might then get Kalos involved supporting the war.......this also supports some form of conflict that was mentioned to cause Kyrum, Resheram, and Zekrom to split.........Interesting....very interesting this is a good connection to the two Kings mentioned in both generations I hope game freak takes this further.......
@@yaboi5932 btw in x and y it is stated via the reshiram and zekrom statues where you corral furfrou that reshiram and zekrom created kalos
@@cacao2cream369 *inhales* ......................... *YEETS MY THEORY OUT THE WINDOW*
The way I personally address all of the in game references to the real world, or to real animals, is that they are simply place holders until a future game introduces a region or Pokémon that is it's equivalent. As you say, any Diamond and Pearl remakes would likely refer to Fantina as being from Kalos, and likewise if a future game includes Raichu's Pokédex entry about being able to knock out an Indian Elephant, I suspect it will instead refer to Copperajah.
If we apply this retroactively we can also eliminate a few other references to the real world. Lt. Surge who is also known as the "Lightning American" could perhaps be the "Lightning Unovan", which is hinted at by dialogue at the World Tournament in Black 2 and White 2. Even if he's not from Unova he could be from a different, currently unreleased region, set on the same landmass and based on a different part of the USA.
As far as placing the regions is concerned, I believe there is one major piece of evidence missed out here: Shellos and Gastrodon.
In all of the Sinnoh games, the distribution of these Pokémon is obvious, West Sea Shellos on the west of Mt. Coronet and East Sea Shellos on the east. However, in other regions Shellos and Gastrodon are not distributed in the same way. In Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire, both East Sea and West Sea Shellos are available on Routes 103 and 110, though only one form in each game.
What is more interesting is the distribution of Shellos and Gastrodon in Kalos, Alola and Galar. In Kalos you can only catch West Sea Gastrodon in the Friend Safari, which is notably on the EAST of the region. In Alola, East Sea Gastrodon can be cought on Poni Wilds, the most WESTERN point in the region. And in Galar only East Sea Shellos is native, though they are spread fairly evenly east to west.
Therefore, I believe that Shellos are perhaps distributed not depending on which coast they are on but which side of a global east-west divide they are on. By looking at their distribution within each region, they are most populous in Sinnoh which could imply that they were originally from Sinnoh, and the presence of an east-west divide (Mt. Coronet) could explain the existence of two different forms, which then spread across the remainder of the world. If we take this to be the case, we could then place Kalos, Alola and Galar on one side or the other, while Hoenn would perhaps be in line with Sinnoh, seeing as it is the only other region home to both forms of Shellos.
Alola and Galar are east of Sinnoh with Unova being in between them, while Kalos is west of Japan (But its Eastern border touches the west of Japanese regions). This way, both Alolan and Galarian western borders face Sinnohs eastern border.
I think the world looks like this as we currently know it.
Kanto and Johto connected. Kanto is in the East and Johto is in the west.
Hoenn is too the South of Johto, West from the Sevii Islands
Sinnoh is to the NorthEast of Johto and NorthWest of Kanto, connecting them via the Sinjoh Ruins
Kalos is west of Johto and Sinnoh, Northeast from Hoenn (So basically the starter town in Kalos touches Water going to Hoenn)
West of Kalos is Galar (As such, its east from Sinnoh)
Alola is West from Kanto.
Unova is west from Galar and east from Alola.
This is basically the only explanation you can make about the East Sea and West Sea Shellos appearance in the regions.
2:42 what if the dream radar was set in alola since professor burnett is in alola
Since Alola only has four islands in Pokemon, but Hawaii has more, that would kinda make sense
Chances are someone is watching this video at the same time as me
Have a gud day:)
It could be an altered form of Pangea. The continents didn't spread out entirely because both Kyogre and Groudon both went into sleep so continents stopped moving as much or they were the cause for it slowing down.
But civilizations that were already separated already began having their own unique traits.
Everyone: they’re names are grookey, sobble, and scorecbunny.
Me: nah they Ringo, James pond, and jack.
Kanto
Johto
Hoenn
Sinnoh- various Japanese islands
Unova - US (specifically NYC)
Kalos - France
Alola - Hawaii
Galar - UK, upcoming DLCs Isle of Man (Isle of Armour) Scotland - Crown Tundra
right. and they have the culture and shape of the irl places. theres no reason to pretend they arnt
Then that means Gloria is from the crown tundra.
Everyone knows this pal, what's your point?
@@therockingvolbeat3630 not everyone, no harm in educating is there pal
@@lumbagovideosnew5915 anyone who's interested in knowing it will already know it as its common knowledge for a pokemon fan, plus toby mentions it in this video
*GALAR IS NEAR KALOS*
In the anime, when the scene zoomed out from Kalos to space, there was an island next to Kalos freakishly shaped like Galar similar to how France is near to Britain.
I am a bit of a geography and worldbuilding nerd, so I've been trying to estimate where the Pokémon regions are based on things like climate, species distribution (especially Shellos), and in game lore. What it seems so far is that it roughly lines up with the real world, but with differences. Some differences include Hoenn seemingly being just south of Sevii, land being more evenly distributed between "Eurasia" and "North America", and then the horrible enigma that is Galar. Galar seems to be located off the West coast of Pokémon's "South America", close to the antarctic, which is evidenced by the formation of deserts around the region, the fact that Shellos implies it is east of Sinnoh (and seemingly Hoenn, where both forms occur), the fact that in the south, it is below freezing year round at sea level, the abundance of Unovan Pokémon, and the existence of Stow-on-Side, which seems to reference Andean culture.
As for the swimmers, they could either be lying or they have been able to swim around the world by taking breaks on islands/coasts, and by being supehuman by our standards. This wouldn't surprise me, I mean we see swimmers doing laps in the ocean on water routes for Pete's sake! And to add to the idea that humans are just tougher in the Pokémon world, look at Kukui, who constantly lets Pokémon attack him!
Also a minor nitpick, according to Bulbapedia, Sinnoh has been said to be an island, and Sinnoh was actually said to be fairly far from Fiore. These might be wrong or only apply to the anime, idk, but that's what I read.
After I’ve seen a couple gen 9 trailers, I came back here and the the fact that it’s Spain next is so awesome because there is an easy area below kalos to put the new region! I’m not saying the game devos are using your map but I’m not not saying it either 😉
@Bird Keeper Toby
You mentioned Sevii Islands (FR/LG) & Faraway Island (Emerald), but you didn't even mention Birth Island, Navel Rock, or Southern Island...all also from Gen 3?
Hoenn has to be near Kanto’s Sevii Islands, when considering the event islands for Ho-oh, Lugia, and Deoxys. It also needs to be near Sinnoh, because of the Regis being in both Hoenn and Sinnoh.
Or it’s all just a wild goose chase for a map that can’t feasibly exist, but eh, whatever.
i feel the sinnoh/hoenn connection can be pretty loose
the regis aren't tied to hoenn, just sealed there, same with regigigas except it's only held in snowpoint, whereas the regis showed up sealed in unova (and soon galar, as well)
Hoenn is Kyushu Japan, while Sinnoh is Hokkaido Japan. Sevii Islands are islands to the south of Kanto. Just go west from the Sevii Islands & you should find yourself in the waters of Hoenn.
@@WaterKirby1994 Yup, i think Hoenn is also west of Sevii Islands.
@@nickdentoom1173 The Anime Pokearth is a lot more confusing thanks to anime exclusive locations. While some cities could just be districts of existing cities like the place from Hypno's Nap Time being part of Celadon City for example. Then you had the crazy route mistakes between Cerulean City & Vermillion City. That's just early Season 1 wait until you get to the Orange Islands, Movie Locations & later seasons.
The Games though Kanto is literally just an underdeveloped poor man's Tokyo (Kanto of Japan), Johto is Chubu & half of Kansai. Hoenn is Kyushu that was likely rotated by the battle between Groudon & Kyogre or Regigigas. Sinnoh is Hokkaido & the real world Sevii Islands exist as well to the south of Kanto. Unova is based on the area around New York City. Kalos is based on France, Alola is Hawaii, Galar is UK.
Orre is supposed to be the Southwestern States with Phenac being based on Phoenix & Realgam Tower having similarities to Las Vegas. The Western Parts like Gateon Port, Pokemon HQ Lab, & Agate Village are supposedly California. It should be noted that we never see the Chugoku or Tohoku regions of Japan in the Pokemon World as well.
It kinda bugs me that the regions are so huge and then... a teeny tiny Galar right in the middle.
Also, should we take into consideration the fact that 6 regions have the same national dex?
In the let’s go games, in the daycare and in the top left house in cerulean city, there is a calendar with a picture of a map. I don’t remember seeing this land anywhere in the Pokémon series, but there’s an island in the north part of the map which looks the sinnoh region. So I think that this map might be the regions connected.
Now I wonder where Ransei would be on the map. It’s from Pokémon Conquest which was a DS game, not sure if anyone remembers it though. If I recall correctly it is canon to the Pokémon world which is pretty neat.
Is it though? Didn’t a random guy just have a mewtwo or something?
Hailfire Spawn PokeBalls exist in that time. They say near the start of the game that there are people who use PokeBalls in other regions. Just because their customs are old that doesn’t mean it’s before the other games in the timeline.
Mage MascarowgXYZ
Dude still randomly has Mewtwo.
J2Dragon Yes. I don’t see how that is an issue if it is one. From my knowledge the Mewtwo heads over to Ransei during one of the episodes for the Psychic Warlord. Mewtwo isn’t just one Pokémon, there is more than likely a few dozen Mewtwos made over the years. But yes, there is a Mewtwo.
Mage MascarowgXYZ yea that’s quite the theory. Unfortunately I don’t prescribe to the multiple mewtwo theory.
notice how when your playing a pokemon game, it takes a very short amount of time to get from one place to another. this is why the swimmer can get from one region to another so quickly.
In Xatu's gen 2 entry it mentions South America.
Kanto Raichu's in S&M mentions India
Ponyta's mentions Ayer's Rock (gen 2).
The Pokemon world is clearly supposed to be Earth but slightly weird
Also, as for Kanto people settling Alola is based on real life, where a very large population of Hawaii is Japanese.
I love the work you put into this, and it all seems to be correct, but I think you're forgetting one important factor, which is Shellos and Gastrodon. I'm basing this on Bulbapedia, but in every pair of games which are based in one region, only one form of Shellos and Gastrodon are available in the wild (except for ORAS where both, and Unova where neither are present in the wild). If you take a look at which form of Shellos and Gastrodon appear in which games, then you can get a rough picture of which region should be located East and West of Mount Coronet, therefore Shinnoh. Based on this, Galar should be located East to Sinnoh, since you can only get Shellos's East sea form in Sword and Shield. Maybe Hoenn is exactly South of Sinnoh (with Johto and Kanto in between), and that's why you can get both kinds of Shellos there, maybe routes 103 and 110 are directly South of Mount Coronet, since those are the routes where you can obtain Shellos in ORAS.
A different thing - where do you think Pasio from Pokemon Masters would be located?
You do realize that the regions are not just based on real world places, but every single one of them looks incredibly similar to said place.
Kanto is the exact same as the Kantō Region of Japan.
The reason Johto borders Kanto is because it’s based on the real world Kansai and Chūbu Regions.
Hoenn is just the Ryukyu Islands of Japan flipped horizontally.
The Sevii Islands are based on Ogasawara, a part of Tokyo which includes the Bonin and Izu Islands.
Sinnoh is based on Northern Hokkaido and the southern part of Kunashir Island, an island disputed between Russia and Japan.
Unova is based on the NYC Metropolitan Area, which is clear because of it looking exactly like NYC and Eastern New Jersey. It is said to be nowhere near the other regions as well.
Kalos is based on Northern France and the Channel Island of Alderney, and is almost exactly in the middle of the first four and Unova.
Alola is obviously Hawaii, which putting it somewhat close to Kanto isn’t wrong, just you put it too close to Kanto.
Galar is just the Island of Great Britain upside down, more specifically focusing on England and Wales. The two king battle was more likely between Kalos and Galar, which is across the English Channel of this world.
The Isle of Armor is the Isle of Man.
The Crown Tundra is Scotland.
The Orre Region is based off of the Phoenix Metro Area is Arizona.
The Sinnoh Battle Zone is based on the southern half of Sakhalin, an island owned by Russia.
Fiore is based on the Okoyama and Hyōgo Prefectures and Shōdo Island.
Almia is based on the Oshima and Hiyama Subprefectures, which are on the part of Hokkaido that aren’t in Sinnoh, meaning Almia borders Sinnoh. Almia also includes the northernmost tip of Honshū.
Oblivia is based on the Oki Islands.
Ya it's kind of hard to figure this thing out without knowing all the regions. It's like trying to do a puzzle without knowing if you have all the pieces or even what the puzzle is supposed to look like. Personally I would really like to do a version of this using physical geography.
You also gotta make sure it lines up with Shellos and Gastrodon. They have different forms depending on which side of Sinnoh they come from. And most of what we have seen are Blue (east) over Pink (west).
But that could also be from populations bringed there, or that are better adapted to the territory. I think they are called that way due to where they are found in their home region rather than all the globe. Still, they are at the East of the map.
Can you explain why then, Kalos' waves go southwards instead of south-west-wards like in Johto, Hoenn and Kanto?
In the Pokémon anime it takes about a day to reach Alola from Kanto. I think the two are still too close together, and Alola should be moved further East.
Also about Alola being the in-game version of the Orange Islands: I would say that whilst they probably had a lot of inspiration from Orange, I don’t think they are the same thing. Again in the anime, the characters visit both areas and they are clearly separate. And we know regional variations exist not just in Alola but Galar, too, so the argument that they are the same based on their closeness and the regional variants doesn't really hold up. Best to keep them as separate territories. Anyway, I think Orange is still classed as Kanto anyway.
It freaking sucks that sword and shield DLC will still have pokemon that stay untransferable 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
What if the Ranger regions are on the Northwestern coast of Poke-Japan? Then it could connect to Sinnoh's mountains and still be in the same "country"
Can’t wait to find out where Paldea would sit!
two kings, two brothers, two heroes,
two doggos
A sword and a shield doggos
This is the earliest I’ve ever been to a video! Love your content, my dude. Keep soaring high!
Well, Alola is actually 5 islands in a chain by including Executor Island and 6 if you count Poke Pelago.
Considering Poke Pelago is 4 iIslands, its technically 9 Islands
Honestly, I think you should just put Galar where you have Unova now and move Unova closer to the spin-off regions. It would easily allow for Kalos's war to be fought vs Galar and allow for the swimming between Kalos and Galar.
The only problem I can see with putting Galar to the west of the main island with Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh, and Kalos is that you find East sea Shellos and Gastrodon in Galar, which implies it would be East of Sinnoh. However, if you do that, then the person would have had to have swam around Sinnoh or Kanto and Johto to get to Galar.
To your country thingy, remeber that the National dex implies all of those regions are from the same country. The only regions that don't have a national dex are Alola and Galar, we know that Galar is because of the cut but what if we swipped places of it with Hoenn and that explains everything. Alola and Galar are diferent countries but Kanto, Jotho, Hoenn, Sinnoh, Unova and Kalos are in the same country which also fits geographycally with your map.
I was also thinking the same.
No, Kanto Johto Hoenn and Sinnoh are all based off various islands in Japan. Unova is US (which is why its specifically stated that it's so far away from the first four regions and is only accessible by plane, and has no pokemon native from previous gens) Kalos is france, Eiffel Tower- Luminous city, many French references in game. Alola is obviously Hawaii, and then Galar is based off the UK, the expansions based off Isle of Man (Isle of Armour) and Scotland (crown tundra)
@@lumbagovideosnew5915 I know that. But I say that in the Pokémon world it could be that way. Obviously the real world equivalents are diferent.
In raichus dex entry the indian elephant referenced could be cufant or copperajah pretty cool how they foreshadow stuff that nobody understands till 3 years later
Dracone1024 no it was from Pokémon sun. m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Raichu_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
So you’re telling me, New York City went to war against France? :0
I highly doubt that. The only region which would do that would be Galar. And Galar would be likely trying to take Unova for itself but failed.
@@DaiMie I mean, some countries COULD ally with others. The anime did teach us well about how far the power of friendship can go after all :')
jokes aside however, its stated in an entry that reshiram and zekrom created kalos, so idk.
Recently watched the first video on this glad you came back to it
The serebii map in oras feels more like fanservice and not an official canon
Thank you for recognising Plymouth, when I first played through the game and got to Hulbery I was so excited to see my childhood city in a pokemon game! Except whenever I googled it people said it was portsmouth ... the hoe, lighthouse and even the townhouses are identical to plymouth harbour so seeing at least one other person recognise it as Plymouth really made my day!
Thank you, and great video! Very interesting !!
Alright, I'll address the elephant in the room, you claimed he parallel earth theory doesn't hold up because of a swimmer swimming from Hoenn to Kalos, but he doesn't say he swam the whole way in one go, he could have swam the trim in chunks stopping in other regions on the way, in which case, parallel earth theory doesn't really have any significant breaking rebuttals, right?
You're videos always bring a smile to my face, thank you.
For me the pokemon world is a variant of earth that lines up close to our geography with some differences like England being upside down.
Fiore is based on the Aomori prefecture of Japan, Almia is the southern tip of Hokkaido, and I believe Oblivia is based on the island of Nishinoshima. It's possible for Fiore and Almia to be switched, im not sure.
Hoping Toby will update this map when Scarlet/Violet are released adding the new Spain region
2:50 I mean since u take the Pokémon with u in pokewalker is technically similar to go
Pokeball plus is an updated pokewalker
Thank you so much toby!!! Your videos get me through these hard times!! Id love for you to make a vid of the top ten moments of the Electric tale of pikachu, and your thoughts!! Once again thank you so much
-dragon breeder mykal
the bottom of the planet looks so empty, with that huge of an ocean there is no way all the water is staying liquid at that latitude. You really should place in a frozen south pole.
Has anyone thought about how Shellos is tied into this? You can find the west sea form in the western half of Sinnoh and in Kalos, and can find the east sea form in the eastern half of Sinnoh, Alola, and Galar. Also Paldea is probably southwest of Kalos.
12:41 why did u make galar so small on the map when it’s clearly the largest region
It's only the map that's big.
Is it the largest region though?
if you look at the uk on a map you would see that its a lot smaller than alot of countries
@@banzanablox872 But the area of Kanto itself on the real world map can fit in the UK itself. You need to remember the maps in these games are inconsistent, and does not always HAVE to be the same size as the real world. Look at the number 8 image of this link. www.buzzfeed.com/simoncrerar/tokyo-is-a-mega-city
Just saying, he could've made Galar bigger and actually match up with Kalos.
Wow man! Really cool to see this world map of Pokémon revisited after so long! It’s always been one of ur coolest theories in my opinion. It’s nice to see the regions positioned logically in the world
Want a simpler to pronounce example of a country with part of it separated quite a bit?
The US. Alaska is separated from it by part of Canada. Hawaii is pretty far off the coast, enough to not properly fit on a map of the US in the right area.
Then there's the interpretation of them including colonies, thus part of the country but at the same time not. Like until a colony earns recognition, some people will call it part of the country that owns it, some will consider it separate. But that's a harder to prove option
I'm really hoping that they confirm Kabu is the former Lavaridge Town gym leader and have Whitney in the dlc. They need some fanservice (other than Kanto) to sprinkle into the dlc.
Someone swam from Kalos to Galar, that's the equivalent of someone swimming the English Channel... which has been done before 🤔
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Hoenn has to be close to johto because of 1 island that was featured in Pokémon heroes latios and latias named alto mare and by johto anime exclusive locations on bulbapedia this is said about it Alto Mare is known as the city of water and is the Johto region's Venice. It is an island in between Johto's southwestern coast and the islands of eastern Hoenn. Alto Mare is the setting of Pokémon Heroes: Latios & Latias.
Ok whenever ANY youtuber says "let's just jump into it" they cut to PhillyD and I love it.
God he's so iconic lol. I love jumping into it, jumping into things is tight.
From '24 per, I think that Kalos, Galar & Unova are next to each other, Galar being north to Kalos & Unova west to Kalos. I think, that Fiore region is between Kalos t Johto. Paldea is south to Kalos & Almia is south to Sinnoh. Alola is near equator, south to Sevii & Faraway Island is part of Guyana region, that is now the only region on the southern hemiosphere of Pokearth now, bur we can still now more. Katakami is in mountains between Paldea & Kalos, this is applicateble also to Orre region. Oblivia is south to Fiore & is part of the same archipelago as island, where is Cianwood City of Johto.
An alternative:
Alternative option than this above is:
•Almia is still south to Kalos, but, also west to Johto & east to Kalos, being instead of Fiore. Orre is south to Unova.
But I like more this 1st option.
With further research I found out that kitakami is based on tohoku Japan which is northeast of kanto in the real world. So I think that kitakami would fit perfectly a little bit northeast of kanto.
@idknoob0110 good to know, but I still think, that Sinnoh is north to Kanto - Kitakami can be just between these two.
every region has been based on their respective real work locations, putting them right where they would be in the real world. yes pokemon plays with the geography a bit, but i can tell you now there ws a man irl who attempted to swim from france to japan. it was a thing. that aside each region has routes, gen 1-4 had continuous routes where every other region in other parts of the world all start from 1 again cause they arnt connected. if you are going to ignore some stuff just to make other stuff work then might as well throw it all out and stick with the pokemon worth just being regular earth but with pokemon and an alternate history
I’m not sure if this is game fact or fiction, but I believe at one point in the development of RSE that the area around Fallarbor was going to connect to Johto’s Claswood like how Kanto connects to Johto
This was supported by the fact that these games were supposed to be the last and Sinnoh wasn’t supposed to exist.
Not sure if this was true or not, but I remember a PokeTuber speak of it from an interview or something
@@Galarticuno the only pokemon gamea that were supposes to be the "last" was gen 2. After that its been ongoing.
VoltaireSurge not sure if it was fact or fiction; just remember it from video a while ago
Take a look at a map of real world Japan & compare it to maps of the Pokemon World, you'll notice Hokkaido looks exactly like Sinnoh. Kanto region is likely based on the geography of the real world Kanto region, only Tokyo never became a Mega City in Pokemon's World. Hoenn is Japan's Kyushu Region rotated 90 Degrees. Galar is an upsidedown UK from what we understand. We can only assume that either Galar views the world upsidedown with South being where North should be or something in the Pokemon World is capable of rotating entire islands.
It should be noted that there are 2 Japanese Regions that Pokemon never really gave us according to Wikipedia. Honshu the main Japanese Island has 5 real world regions Chugoku, Kansai, Chubu, & Kanto from West to East & then the Tohoku region to the north of Kanto & Chubu. Pokemon's Johto region is based on Eastern Kansai & Chubu. We need to someday visit the region based on Chugoku & Western Kansai as I suspect we'll find routes 49-100 there & in Northern Johto. Route 200 is probably a route that connects Sinnoh to the mystery region based on Tohoku.
Because of how many small sets of Islands surround Japan I have no clue what the Sevii & Orange Islands are supposed to represent. Wikipedia claims there's the Izu Islands directly south of Kanto & then the Bonin Islands further south than that. bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_world_in_relation_to_the_real_world is a rough estimation although even then there's some question as to how much of Kansai is included in Johto & how far north Kanto & Johto of the games actually extend for Honshu. Good luck trying to discover the secrets of PokeEarth.
@@WaterKirby1994 i mean i jist run with the idea of the pokemon varients just replace the irl locations
People are assuming that the Pokemon Region map is based on our Earth map; however, that is completely false. Even though Galar is based on UK and Kalos is based on France, there aren't close to each other in the Pokemon map. Also, assuming a Pokemon region that didn't exist until it gets revealed is also misleading, as we seen many characters like Professor Oak and James had said they been to Hoenn and Sinnoh before, before Pokemon introduced those regions to us
Its so weird seeing a person coming to understand enclaves. You never know what a persons gaps in knowledge are and whether what you consider general knowledge could be completely foreign to another person.
I've been waiting for this.Just to know your opinion where would you place the regions from the side game you didn't include?
I feel like galar is to small on the world map.
@Callum Crawford it is the biggest If you were to scale any region next to it the other region would be dwarfed by its size
Galar must be north of Kalos. Search on Google images: "Galar and Kalos". The rivers match up perfectly.
But what about the crown tundra?
I always thought of pokemon being in the far future, where plate tectonics jumbled things around but there still was some memory or resemblance of our present world.
Also, there was colonization from Asia over the Pacific ocean, so I don't see it to be very strange, plus it is a very long voyage from Japan to America via the pacific.
I had to argue with Americans on tik tok that thought galar was in Australia just coz all the characters say mate. Like. Mate English people say it just as much as us aussies
13:15 if piplup can swim from sinnoh to kanto
I feel like a skilled human can do it lmao
I still think 10th gen region should be Brazil with Guyana included to celebrate the place Mew was said to be discovered.
ScionStorm
What about 9th ?
So a human swimmer is the same as a penguin with a body designed for swimming? Yeah ok...
Pretty sure a human already done it.
@@therockingvolbeat3630 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beno%C3%AEt_Lecomte
We know based on the anime that Unova Alola are probably the farthest regions from Kanto so that probably means the map is probably based on the real world with slightly geographical differences but in the same locations Galar is definitely near Unova and Kalos just look at the pokemon in the Galar dex
Swimmer guy could just be lying. Why trust him to make a world map?
Well....there are Swimmer in the real world who literally swam across the world before. So having him going from Sinnoh which is based in Japan and going to Kalos, isn't entirely impossible. Also, if he swim inland, like rivers, he have a lot of places to take rest and will get there quickly. But if he go coastal of the main land, it would take awhile.
tommy flores. We don't really know if he's lying or not. Maybe for now Toby assumed that it's real and went on with it. Also, this is isn't really official so it doesn't really have to be perfect.
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I'm pretty confident that Galar is North of Kalos, if you look at the bottom right hand corner, the ocean/rivers, mountains, and trees match up almost perfectly with the top middle right of Kalos. Check near the bottom of the page in the link for the image.
nintendosoup.com/could-pokemon-sword-and-shields-galar-region-be-connected-to-the-kalos-region/
I always pictured Orre between Aloha and Unova. Orre being Arizona/California based and Unova being NYC having Aloha off the coast a bit near the Sevi islands.
Galar is huge, how is it tinier than kanto?? From your map your basically saying the distance from the most northern part of galar to the most southern is shorter than kantos cycling road, nah bruh. That doesnt fly.
Not sure if this was mentioned, but this may help stabilize certain theories. In Log Horizon, when the map of the in game world was being explained, they mention how the distance between the towns is half of what the real-world equivalence would be. They referred to this as the “Half Gaia Project”. If we were to take the in game designs of the towns in all prior Pokémon games, replaced a single house with about 2-3 city blocks equivalence of buildings, it would help to visualize what it would look like as an actual town/city. Pallet Town would be more than just 2 houses and a laboratory to study Pokémon. It would help fill in a lot of gaps in the continents or help shape the size of the supposed planet that this world resides in.
“Where is galar?”
...it’s in Britain
Do we know the orientation of most regions? I imagine some maps might not have north oriented up.
9:44 That's an African Elephant....