I feel like Unova shouldn't be that close to Sinnoh. In Black and White there's a conversation between Mistralton Gym Leader Skyla and Professor Cedric Juniper. In this conversation, at one point Skyla says "you're talking as if places like Kanto and Sinnoh are right around the corner!", implying that, while Sinnoh and Kanto are indeed close together, Unova is definitely not close to them. In fact, it is implied that the easiest way to travel between the regions is by plane. This leads me to think that Unova has to be at least on a different continent than Sinnoh, Kanto and Johto, and possibly even all the way on the other side of the world. This would make sense, since in the first games set in Unova, you encounter _not a single pokémon from another region_ until after you've beaten the Elite 4, in other words, the region shares very little fauna with other regions. Then what about the connection between the Cave of Being and the Aquity, Verity and Valor caves? I feel like it's the Pokémon World's equivalent of the "digging to china" joke, the hoax of the transatlantic tunnel, a legend of the kind that inspired _Voyage au centre de la terre_ by Jules Verne, or a combination of those...
I agree and I also think it has an easy fix. I think the land to the west of sinnoh shouldn't connect with the continent that unova is on. If you just take away that strip of land and make them two separate continents all is good.
I think they are still far enough apart for this to be reasonable. Also, Mistralton City is in the westernmost half of the region, so it is the farthest away from Sinnoh. Besides, there seems to be no organized way of travel in the strip of land between the two, so travel by plane is still feasible.
@@revolvingworld2676 i mean honestly they should just make games based on all of the regions without a mainseries game so far, i think it would be cool to flesh them out and give them new pokemon, and how much longer do you think they can make new pokemon, we could get to a poing where theres just so many that they cant put them all in a game
Wait, what if the Unovan cave connects to Sinnoh in the same way that they say if you dig a hole deep enough in the US, you'll reach China, i.e. Unovan is on the complete opposite side of the world as Sinnoh and the cave is simply so deep that people say it goes through the center of the world
Except the fact that if you dug deep enough, you'd reach the Earth's core and start a massive volcanic eruption. lol I see the comparison, but it's probably just the game devs trying to make it easier for you complete the Pokedex. "Let's put this cave here that lets the player catch the Lake trio from Sinnoh. If someone asks, just tell 'em the cave leads to Sinnoh or something."
Savannah Simpson The point is not that it works, but that people say it works. We have no evidence that the cave leads to Sinnoh, just that people say it does.
Pokemon Conquest should count because a person in the game even says," I've heard of a far away land where they catch Pokemon in balls " or something like that.
I'm sure there is an argument to what I'm about to say, but can't you rotate the regions? Like with Unova and Sinnoh, wouldn't you be able to rotate Unova a good 90 degrees clockwise and then that cave would match perfectly with Sinnoh. It does ruin what you said about the seas of Kalos and Unova though but it's just a thought. All I'm trying to say is that we don't know each regions North South East West.
I believe the continents are still named like their Earth counterparts, and they are in a similar place on the globe, just with slightly tweaked shapes and geography. In the Pokémon world, the emphasis seems to placed more on smaller regions, rather than countries. There is no United States of America, but there is Unova, Orre and Alola. There is a North American continent though.
Well johto and Sinnoh are close to each other since The region of Fiore is among are Johto and Sinnoh, and Jasmine being in Sinnoh and Lucas/Dawn being in HG/SS. And of course Cynthia in the SinJoh ruins
No, they aren't, im pretty sure they made it perfectly clear that Alola was reletively close to Kanto. And there is no evidence to suggest that Kalos is really far away. I will give you Unova though, cause its far from the other regions.
When was that stated Haltmann? There is a globe of the Pokémon world in Sun and Moon, as well as Ultra Sun and Moon, at the very beginning of the game that states upon observation "Even on a tiny globe like this one, Kanto and Alola are awfully far apart". Numerous NPC's states Kanto is very far from Alola and how different the culture is between the distant regions. In fact a female Sightseer at the Malie City library ask you numerous questions about Alola and its culture and she's blown away at how the Alolan people use ride Pokémon when in her homeland, Johto, they use Fly to get around.
I'd like to see a 3D globe with all the regions printed/painted onto it. :) (Although new ones would have to be added when new games are released with new regions... :p)
I know this is three years late but, maybe they could make stickers you can add onto the globe once new regions are introduced? Or they could sell globes once Pokemon ends.
I think the only one you're wrong about is Hoenn's placement, Hoenn seems to have a good connection with the regions of Kanto, Johto, and the Sevii Islands, with many references across both regions, like Brawly and Bruno training in the Sevii Islands together, unlocking connectivity with the Hoenn region by retrieving a Ruby and Sapphire, the fact that Kyogre sleeps in HeartGold but Groudon sleeps in SoulSilver, indicating maybe the two legendaries would sometimes flee from Hoenn to rest from their battles, because if we split the games continuity up between the "red" games and "blue" games, that means HeartGold would take place after Ruby, and SoulSilver would take place after Sapphire, and if you combine the games in that order, you get one of each Groudon and Kyogre, additionally, a lot of Pokemon in the Johto Safari Zone not only are also available in eastern Kalos, but in northern parts of Hoenn as well, like Zangoose, Trapich, and Cacnea. Also, the Deoxys from ORAS, while not necessarily present in the GBA universe, might have a counterpart with the Birth Island Deoxys, which is available in FRLG and Emerald, it's also Island 9 of the Sevii Islands, and you can visit Island 8 and 9 from Emerald, which suggests that Hoenn is close to the Sevii Islands, and by extension, Kanto and Johto. The Sevii Islands also have a nod to the Battle Tower with the "Trainer Tower", and use braille puzzles, only otherwise seen with the Regi trio in Hoenn and Sinnoh. In the GBA universe, the Deoxys may have successfully crash landed, albeit from a much smaller meteor, but landed onto Birth Island. That Deoxys may be the multiverse counterpart to the one fought in ORAS. Island 8 also serves as an alternative resting place for both Ho-Oh and Lugia, another visitable area from Emerald. And lastly, a lot of the people and Pokemon at Hoenn's Battle Frontier are clearly of Johto or Kanto origin, especially the Frontier Brains. So I've modified your map, by sneaking Hoenn in south of Johto, and moving the Sevii Islands a tiny bit east to accommodate this fitment, I think that awkward triangle portion of land sprouting south from Kalos is getting in the way a little, Hoenn clearly isn't too close to regions like Kanto and Johto are to Sinnoh and Kalos by way of all the available lore, but it certainly shouldn't be that close to Unova like you have it, Unova was clearly stated to be much, MUCH farther away from the regions before it than they are to each other(this stated before Kalos was known). Anyways, the fact that you can visit some of the Sevii Islands in both FRLG and Emerald suggests they're close, but that's not all, those two games have a cave by the same name Altering Cave, which the inside layout is identical in both, clearly suggesting either, the two caves are connected if you could dig deeper, or the same person, Pokemon, or group of people/Pokemon had visited both Hoenn and the Sevii Islands to make both caves. Also, the player character and his family in the Hoenn games are from Johto. Anyways, I also think the Pokemon world, even down to it's layout, would be largely based on the real world's layout, that is why Unova was stated to be farther away from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh, because those four make up Japan. In my version of the map, you have all of the Japan territories to the easternmost side, then Kalos in the middle representing the placement of Europe, Unova west of that representing the Atlantic side of America, and then Alola on the westernmost end, representing it's closeness to Japan, yet also representing the Pacific side of America. i.imgur.com/JOv5eBF.png
I've always been annoyed by the lack of continuity amongst different games. I can understand retconned stuff, like a lot of the Pokedex entries in gen 1 mentioned real countries but I get that at that stage they didn't imagine the Pokemon world would get as massive as it is. But I don't see any excuse for two different relatively current games showing different looking maps of the same area, just seems lazy.
Brandikai English I feel like it's going to be close to Pokemon Black and White 2 because how they have Solgaleo and Lunala merged with Necrozma is similar to that game. But it could possibly connect all the the games together like how bird keeper Toby stated in his theory video last year that Sun and moon could be the beginning of the end.
Elizabeth Thomas Personally I feel like they are taking "Alternate Universe" concept they jave.been running with since ORAS and take it a step further by making two main series games that blatantly making ut an alternate universe of Sun and Moon. instead of subtly hinting it like they did with ORAS or B2&W2 We know that Lusamine wanted to open the Ultra Wormhole and we know Necrozma awakened in the presence of Ultra Beasts entering it's resting space. What if they get opened earlier? What if Lusamine accidentally woke up Necrozma early or even doing it on purpose? Who knows how far this string of events could change things or are changed from the beginning?
I remember when I played Conquest that one character remarked that "in a distant land people use strange balls to befriend pokemon" or something along those lines. So it may be that COnquest actually takes place in the canon game world, but they're just so far removed from everyone else that they haven't advanced as much technologically.
Considering the time period that game is set in it's possible that it is already in the pokeearth he mentioned but under a new name. Several countries are no longer called what they were called when they were founded.
I hope those map guys have a map of Lordran, but that would be very hard to make due to how interconnected and realistic Dark Souls 1 is in it's use of verticality, so a traditional map might not work. And yes, I just brought up Dark Souls in the comments section of a Pokemon video.
I like this theory, but I have a small problem with this. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but don't you catch WEST Shalous (Sorry if misspelled) and its evolution in Alola? This means that Alola is west of Sinoh, due to the east/west difference being because of the mountains there. Again, I might be wrong on this, but if I am right, you should probably go over the map again and double check the east/west versions.
Kanto, johto are Kanto and Kansai regions of Japan Honshu Island. Hoenn is Japan Okinawa and Kyushu Islands. Sinnoh is Hokkaido which is a island of Japan
I've got this. Ransei is based on Great Britain so what if it is to the North-West of Kalos, and is to far away and isolated to transer, or maybe it makes a triangle with Kalos and Sinnoh. Also, Ferrum means iron, so maybe Gold, Silver, Iron? I think it could be an isolated island firstly populated by People from Johto? Maybe by the equator because of "Gaia Energy", or maybe they have just learned in there isolation to harness infinity energy using Z-crystal like stones, and also burst attacks are kinda like Z-moves, so maybe? Idk leave you're thoughts and a like so Toby can see this.
At first, I thought it was weird to have the region based on France to be so close to the regions based on Japan, but then I realized that Coastal Kalos and Hoenn share a ton of Pokemon, even moreso than Mountain Kalos and Kanto and Johto. So since Unova was the first region to be considered 'far away', that means Hoenn wasn't and should be near Kanto and Johto, so Kalos being next to Johto fits perfectly.
I think this map still works with some adjustments with Galar (gen 8) now existing. I'm not sure if you've seen with maps but I think GameFreak has directly put Galar right above Kalos. So maybe Sinnoh is farther east meaning more north of Kanto than Johto. Also, with your theory the Mt Coronet being equivalent to the North Pole, that could put Johto/Kanto as far north as say Canada for reference. Still warm enough for seasons but not south enough for any tropical areas, which makes sense because there's no tropical area in any of those regions. Now I know said due to geography of Kalos and Hoenn, Hoenn is west of Kalos....but thanks to the addition of the safari zone in Johto, there a big cliff there and the real world equivalent of Hoenn is actually sideways. Would it be possible that Hoenn is south of Johto and Alola southwest of Kalos (still coinciding with the "east" reference?
In my version of the Pokemon World, every region "takes the place of" whatever location they were based off of. For example, in my version, where we have Paris, France, in that "exact same space" (relatively speaking) would be where Kalos is in the hypothetical version of their World I've envisioned. Sure, there may be inconsistencies with that, but in a hypothetical alternate version, who's to say I can't make a few re-writes?
Same. As cool as this theory is, I don't agree with all the positions because I imagine there are more regions representative of other countries/places. This map cuts out the majority of the Euro-Asian continent by connecting Johto and Kalos directly.
I always thought the same thing. Then I became convinced that this was the case when I saw how similar in shape the regions were to their inspirations and saw the globes scattered around Sun and Moon. The globes clearly had continents in the shapes and sizes of Africa, Europe, and South America on them. I'm pretty sure that many people have already noticed this, but it's an interesting choice from GameFreak.
Coming back to this a year later after the announcement of the Galar region, kind of reinforces your theory as well. (I've always thought the same, just makes sense).
While i really like the map, i realised a hole in it while playing through Alpha sapphire recently. Mr. stone states that the Kalos region is far away, in the beginning of the delta episode. This of course makes it unlikely that Kalos is as close as shown on your map. I dont have a better placement of Hoenn myself, but i would love to see what you could come up with.
Sinroz Moon Perspective my friend, I find that sufficiently far, looks like Texas to maybe the north of West Virginia? Plus a body of water, and generally any secluding geographical mass tend to make a distance longer.
Just a thought, the saying in Unova about how the deepest part of the cave is said to reach all the way to Sinnoh, in my opinion is probably an Easter egg type thing about how in America there is an urban legend/saying that children are told and it goes, “if you dig a hole in the ground deep enough eventually you will end up in China/Japan on the other side of the world” and I’m thinking that since Unova is based off of an American place then it stands to logically infer that they may have adapted an common America saying to the game universe. Which tells us that Unova is/should be on the opposite side of the globe from Sinnoh. This actually works great too because Orre is based off of USA state Arizona so I’m thinking that Orre and Unova are on a separate continent that is on the opposite side of the globe from the Sinnoh, Kant’s, Johto regions. Hope this helps.
Hi Toby! I thought of an idea for a theory. What if the reason ash doesn't age because when he died in the episode with gastly, haunter, and gengar it stoped his body from aging but his soul is aging that explains why he is not aging but is getting more mature over time.
I have two major problems with this map. Firstly Sinnoh is NOT a polar region if it were, at least three quarters of it would be covered in snow at all times. The only places that have permanent snow are the upper reaches of Mt Coronet, routes 216/217 and Snowpoint City, which all have permanent snow due to being at least halfway up one of the tallest mountains in the Pokemon world. Yes, Sinnoh is north of Kanto/Johto, but not that far north. It is highly unlikely to be as far north as the UK is in our world. Secondly, and more importantly, these regions are ridiculously large. While not neccesarily geographically identical, or even in the same geographic locations, the regions are likely roughly the same size as their Earth counterparts. Indeed, the comparitively short distances involved suggests that some of the regions based on larger areas, like Unova and Kalos, may well be quite a bit smaller than their Earth counterparts. Your map shows the first four regions, based on less than half of Japan, taking up the better part of half of what is clearly an Earth-sized planet. The scale of your map compared to the Pokemon world simply does not make any sense. Still, it was a fascinating video, which you clearly put a lot of thought and effort into. Despite disagreeing with you on those two points, I still think you have everything in roughly the right positions relative to one another. So, overall, you did a really good job.
Michael Card If the regions were the same size as the irl counter parts most of the map would be entirely ocean, and like he said Unova clearly is meant to be bigger than irl New York
Firstly, the map of our world is mostly ocean, secondly there is a lot of the pokemon world still to see and thirdly no, Unova is not larger than New York. It is smaller. you can't hike from one side of New York state to the other in 20 minutes, which is roughly how long it would take to get right around the map of Unova.
Michael Card Unova is clearly meant to be bigger though because of all the varying terrains, obviously they can't make it the same size as irl new york on a ds. and i know most of the world is ocean but if the pokemon regions were the same size as the irl counterparts there'd barely be any land
One thing that I find very unlikely about this, is that Mt Coronet and Mt Silver are regarded as basically the biggest mountains there are.. yet in the map you've made to connect them, there's a gigantic, region-sized mountain range in between the 2, that's obviously far bigger than either of them.
Tiny nitpick but near the end of Pokemon Ranger gs (Oblivia) the island most south of the region (dolce island) is destroyed by a giant death ray. Wow Pokemon games are wierd
It's actually possible to purchase an official map in Japan. I bought one in the Pokemon Center, it only includes the regions up to Gen 4 though. And it's literally stated in Green/Blue/Red (Japanese version) that Kanto is in Japan and that Major Bob (3rd gym leader) is American
As a history major geography has always been extremely pleasing to me so seeing a visual representation of the world in which some of my favorite things from childhood up to today is so amazing
I love the idea of Kanto and Johto being just south of Sinnoh, it fits so perfectly. The Baby versions and evolutions of Kanto and Johto Pokemon in Sinnoh really supports this, that mountain range on the maps is great to hint at it as well. The Sevii Islands look good compared to Alola, it makes sense for Alola to be just a bit South of them. Due to climate it works out. I love the idea of Hoenn connecting to Kalos. The coast lines fit together and the formation looks great to me. Unova is placed greatly, I believe it makes sense for it to be on the coast like that, bordering Johto and Kanto works out with encounters of those regions found in Unova as well. But I think Alola could be closer to Kalos. Due to the fact that it is the only place so far that you can find Noibat and other Kalos Pokemon, but that may just be because of other games not being remade yet. Maybe The Sevii Islands could be more West and Alola could be east of them. Many encounters of Kanto, Kalos, and Johto Pokemon are in Alola After all. With Unova and Sinnoh connecting in the cave. I believe that is just one of the situations where it is on the other side of the Earth, like America and China. I haven't played the non-main series games, but they do look good with the evidence you provided. Gen 8 and onward will be on the way, they could mess this map up but, I believe this to be a very great map with the evidence provided. Amazing work Toby, keep it up. Also this should be made into a globe
This theory completely fall apart due to the globe in the Pokemon Game. Unova, Kalos, and Alola are all far away from the other 4 regions and it is somewhat base on our Real Earth. It not going to be 1 to 1, but that how it is.
Pokémon Conquest quite obviously mentions the other regions and Pokéballs. I like the map, but personally (take my opinion with a grain of salt), I think it should have Rensei (Pokémon Conquest's region), because, even if you can't "transfer" Pokémon, it seems largely isolated, similar to Alola. In fact, it's confirmed to be an island and one game where Arceus actually bothers to visit the player, outside of events. To my knowledge, the only games to actually have Arceus as a character involved at all are Conquest and Super Mystery Dungeon. Only one is confirmed to exist in the Pokéworld from the game itself, and that's Conquest. But that's just my thoughts. Great video! Gave me a lot to think about. : )
that could be an interesting take on arceus. if theres only one, it means it is capable of travesering to various dimensions ie. human world (the pokemon games including ransei) and the MD games. now that ultra wormholes exist. its possible arcues uses those wormwholes or some means of dimmension hopping to get around.
Kanto is based on the Kanto plain of Japan, Unova is based on the New York metro region, Kalos is based on France (with Lumiose City specifically being based on Paris), and Orre from Pokémon Colosseum is based on Phoenix and the surrounding area.
I still think the PokeEarth looks like Earth, but this is a great theory is great. I think the cave that "connects to Sinnoh" is a joke at the American joke of Digging to China. And Alola is A Lot smaller than IRL Hawaii, because 4 of our close together islands were fused to become one island, and in Game I can walk from Hawaii Kai to Waianae within minutes.
If you were in Alola, according to Toby's map you would have to travel West to get to Kanto. But the sign that says "Eastern Influence" refers to Kanto/Johto being to the East OF Alola, not Alola being TO the East of Kanto/Johto Because Johto is the influence, which should be to the East of Alola "Eastern Influence"
J Mell it's east across the entire globe when on the full world sized map. Yeah, it's closest to the west, but like in real life, America refers to Aisa as the east, despite it being closer west of it.
America refers to Asia as the East because that terminology originated from Europe, the West. You might as well say that Sinnoh is South of Johto because "Yeah it's closest to the North" but its "technically South if you go across the globe"
Kanto is based on the Kanto area of Japan Johto is based on the Kansai area of Japan Hoenn is based on the Kyushu island of Japan Sinnoh is based on the Hokkaido island of Japan Unova is based on the United States, with many similarities to New York Kalos is based on France Alola is based on Hawaii Galar is based on the United Kingdom
Dude I don't wanna be rude but i don't think you get my comment, what I'm trying to say is how can one entire region be only equal to one city while 2 are equal to japan, New York isn't an entire continent
Trevisk It's not to scale. That's the short answer. There's only so much you can put in a game. New York is crammed pack with stuff, while the real life Kanto has its iconic locations more spread out.
I have a theory for Hoenn.... No real evidence but i think Regigigas was trying to SAVE the rest cause Hoenn would only keep getting hit, So regigigas pushes it away
You got me convinced that Kalos is practically between Johto and Hoenn, and that it is part of the same continent as Johto (and Kanto and Sinnoh of course). Unova feels like the only non-island region that should be on a separate continent though, but definitely west of the main one. Did you guys leave that big space below Kalos in case southern Kalos becomes a thing some day?
honestly I feel as if alola is close to unova They both have many of the same characters Theyre both based off the USA Lastly there are a ton of gen 5 pokemon in alola
At 4:18 if u look at the globe in the pokemon game if u look close and long enough that u will see Africa And eurasia (Europe and Asia) those 2 continents are connected so I thought I would put them together.
I think that the regions are in the same places their inspirations are in real life. Sinnoh is not just north, but northeast and across a channel. Hoenn is southeast of Kanto and Johto, and the map we see is actually sideways. Kalos, Galar, and the new gen 9 region are next to each other, and across the ocean from Unova. Also, I can only assume that Unova replaces part of the US East Coast, from Delaware up to Connecticut. The lining up in Johto and Kalos is because they're both mountainous terrain. Unless there's a trans-Siberian railway in the Pokemon world, Sycamore probably flew to the equivalent of Italy or Germany and then took a train into Kalos. The lining up of the sea Pokemon in Kalos and Unova is because they're both on the equivalent of the North Atlantic
Bird Keeper Toby, I have one question and one comment regarding the final map. Q: Why is there a peninsula stretching south of Kalos? C: With regards to the Sinnoh/Unova area of the map, I don't think there should be a "land bridge" connecting the two regions. Due to lack of prior generation Pokemon available in Black/White, I would think that there would just be ocean separating the two, which would have lead to the differences we see in wildlife. What are your thoughts on this?
I disagree, but that's because from all the research I did on it (I'm a huge Pokemon nerd and spent a good 4 months last year obsessively researching the subject) the Pokemon regions really are still canonically established in their real-world Earth analog positions. Unova is set where New York is. Alola is set where 4 of the Hawai'ian islands are. Kalos is where France is. in relation to eachother, these regions are where their Earth analogs are in relation to each other. so Kalos is not right next to Johto. Sinnoh is even farther north and slightly to the East from Kanto. the Johto and Kanto regions are not oriented so that up on the maps is north. in fact, Hoenn is oriented essentially upside down! you claim that Alola doesn't quite match up to Hawai'i and that Unova doesn't quite match up to New York. but Alola is only meant to be the largest 4 Hawai'ian island, and New York is HUGE in real life. you really shouldn't underestimate how large of a region it is. whenever I talk to people from Europe they always get so completely flabbergasted at the size of places in America, because they don't realize the differences in scale between here and there. Unova may seem humongous to be just one city in size. but remember that New York city is BY FAR the largest and most densely populated city in the U.S.. and technically the region isn't really the entirety of NYC, nor is it JUST in NYC. as I understand it, it's mainly Upper Manhattan Island and Central Park, but includes parts of New Jersey? I think just off-map would be Long Island. but that is more than enough, compared to the Kansai region of Japan, to constitute a Pokemon Region of comparable size to the Kanto or Johto regions. after all, those only encompassed partial snippets of area in real-life Earth, too.
Whenever I see a fan region, the thing many fans seem to ignore is that no one region is that big. Like the closest we have is Kalos which is the size of France, but even that's not that big (we're talking at most the size of Johto and some of Hoenn). But like when I see an Australia themed region, fans always use all of Australia, ignoring that Kalos is only around the size of New South Whales, which is only 25% of all of Australia. So for me, a major rule of thumb whenever one wants to make a full blown region, it's imperative that fans stick to size restrictions. This means that if we get a region based on California, it'll either be based around Northern California or Southern California. An Australian based region would most likely need 3 separate regions, one for New South Whales, one for Queensland, and one for the western part. India would be very similar with size restrictions due to how massive it is, a Canada region would most likely be the area of Vancouver, the pacific North West would only focus on either the Seattle area or Portland area, etc.
I definitely think Kalos is North of Kanto. If that were the case, the caves we find Mewtwo in line up, and it’s closer to Sinnoh where Sycamore apparently came from. If Kalos were straight west, of Johto, it wouldn’t make sense for there to be a train only connecting Sinnoh to Kalos when there is already and East to West train that connects Johto to Kanto. Hoenn should also probably be south of Johto then because you can reach Birth Island in the Sevii Islands to catch Deoxys from both Kanto and Hoenn.
Funnily enough Serebii confirmed their map was copied by gamefreak and placed in a dewford town house in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. So if you wanted to be technical, serebii's pokeearth map is canon now it seems, as when you look at the texture of the map it looks nearly identical to serebii's. Just some food for thought.
There are a few problems. Why are the Seafoam and Whirl islands frozen? We might be able to explain seafoam by Articuno, but not Whirl. Also, you have the shoal cave in Horn that has an icy part. Maybe that part is close to whirl islands? Also, how do we know the orientation of the regions on the pokearth? I think that unova and possibly Hoenn are oriented differently than we think they are. Perhaps even Kanto Johto and Sinnoh are tilted differently. As far as sinnoh Johto and Kanto are concerned, they have to be located where Kanto and Johto are beside each other and Sinnoh is north somewhere of it. What if Mt. Coronet and Mt. Silver are directly in line and attached to each other as part of the same mountain range?
Regions are quite small (at max around 130 miles by at max around 75 miles )so the pokemon globe is either somewhat smaller,it's stretched out, or a bit of both
What if there was a very deep cave in Stark Mountain that connected to the cave in Unova? Plus we've seen that with the underwater tunnel, they aren't neglectful of the idea of pathways under the sea. It says the cave goes deep, but in what sense? Deep as in length, or maybe that and deep underground..? Because it seems like that could be plausible
I think the cave actually does connect.... but you'd have to spend at least a week walking in a dank cave to get there. And there are "Magnetic Pulls" in every other region following that to evolve your nosepass's and such.
It seems well reasoned speculation based on the evidence, I just wish there was a bit more evidence for Kalos, Unova, Alola. and Hoenn (and, definitely, the side games), but with the information we have to work with it seems the best that can be done to me.
here im know the kalos is in the middle of pokemkn earth kalos connect to 2 regions galar on north of kalos and johto west connect kanto hoenn unova and alola not connect unova at east of kalos region and hoenn is at south it and sinnoh is connect to kanto region at north and alola is at the south west
This was excellent
MandJTV Pokevids Agreed! Gud work Toby 👍👍
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The real question is will Nintendo ever release an official map so we can see how close Toby was?
InnesChan Probably not, especially if they continue to add regions
InnesChan this is horribly incorrect
What part is horribly incorrect
Ivan Hammell, everything other than Kanto and Johto, lol.
Marshal Walker when I said what's wrong I meant point out an actual example if something he bit wrong not just say it all is
I feel like Unova shouldn't be that close to Sinnoh. In Black and White there's a conversation between Mistralton Gym Leader Skyla and Professor Cedric Juniper. In this conversation, at one point Skyla says "you're talking as if places like Kanto and Sinnoh are right around the corner!", implying that, while Sinnoh and Kanto are indeed close together, Unova is definitely not close to them. In fact, it is implied that the easiest way to travel between the regions is by plane. This leads me to think that Unova has to be at least on a different continent than Sinnoh, Kanto and Johto, and possibly even all the way on the other side of the world. This would make sense, since in the first games set in Unova, you encounter _not a single pokémon from another region_ until after you've beaten the Elite 4, in other words, the region shares very little fauna with other regions. Then what about the connection between the Cave of Being and the Aquity, Verity and Valor caves? I feel like it's the Pokémon World's equivalent of the "digging to china" joke, the hoax of the transatlantic tunnel, a legend of the kind that inspired _Voyage au centre de la terre_ by Jules Verne, or a combination of those...
martijn van weele I agree with this!
You realize that by "right around the corner" she may simply mean the level of closeness Johto has with Kanto
I agree and I also think it has an easy fix. I think the land to the west of sinnoh shouldn't connect with the continent that unova is on. If you just take away that strip of land and make them two separate continents all is good.
martijn van weele I agree. Hokkaido and the US are nowhere near each other.
I think they are still far enough apart for this to be reasonable. Also, Mistralton City is in the westernmost half of the region, so it is the farthest away from Sinnoh. Besides, there seems to be no organized way of travel in the strip of land between the two, so travel by plane is still feasible.
7.8/10 too much water.
Logan Dulk
Logan Dulken is that IGN?
@@blueblade6174 it is
Just add Galar and your done! They have wishy washi and mountains
There are almost certainly other regions across the sea that haven't been revealed yet.
You know what should be officially released? An official Pokemon world globe, that's what. I really want something like that in my room.
Me too
That wont happen anytime soon, if they make a map or a globe, that would just limit them for creating new regions.
@@revolvingworld2676 i mean honestly they should just make games based on all of the regions without a mainseries game so far, i think it would be cool to flesh them out and give them new pokemon, and how much longer do you think they can make new pokemon, we could get to a poing where theres just so many that they cant put them all in a game
by arceus' rings thats one of the best ideas i've heard all day on the internet. a world globe/map is a great idea.
It would end getting obsolete 2 months after you bought it because will announce a new generation + region...
Japan, Japan, Japan, japan, NYC, Paris, Hawaii
NitroProductions0123 Kalos is the whole of France.
orre is confirmed to be based of texas
Eric Xu sounds... Mexican?
And Almia is based on Greece
The Official Fa Mulan only Northern France
Remember that South America exist, well at least in the game
I address that idea in the video ^_^
Haven't watched it yet, but what about that northern area in Russia they mentioned in Red and Blue?
It also mentions China in Parasects Dec entry
And Minnesota in the first movie
Maybe "South America" refers to a South American based region. Same thing can be said about "China".
Wait, what if the Unovan cave connects to Sinnoh in the same way that they say if you dig a hole deep enough in the US, you'll reach China, i.e. Unovan is on the complete opposite side of the world as Sinnoh and the cave is simply so deep that people say it goes through the center of the world
Except the fact that if you dug deep enough, you'd reach the Earth's core and start a massive volcanic eruption. lol I see the comparison, but it's probably just the game devs trying to make it easier for you complete the Pokedex. "Let's put this cave here that lets the player catch the Lake trio from Sinnoh. If someone asks, just tell 'em the cave leads to Sinnoh or something."
False.
Ira J. Mead ?
Espeon LZ Except digging a hole in most of the continental US would get you to the Indian Ocean not China.
Savannah Simpson The point is not that it works, but that people say it works. We have no evidence that the cave leads to Sinnoh, just that people say it does.
your map hates the southern hemisphere.
Pogiforce it will be added as soon as their is a region based of a country in the southern hemisphere
To be fair, much of the Earth's southern hemisphere IS just water.
Pogiforce it actually looks good when he put it on a globe.
7.8/10, I'm very disappointed with the Earth
I'm sure that we'll someday get Australia: The Region, where everything can try to kill you!
I can´t for him to theorize where the Galar Region could be
There's a lot of unused space in the water and places on land that have nothing there
Pokemon Conquest should count because a person in the game even says," I've heard of a far away land where they catch Pokemon in balls " or something like that.
Asgorepapaya i totally argree with you and your the only person in these comments that mentions that
I know it should be
Wait.....
ARE YOU SERIOUSLY USING A GAMECUBE AS A TRAY FOR A CACTUS (check the background of the video)
It's a venusaur
It's probably a action figure of some sort.
Hahahaaaa i think its an Ivysaur statue lol. Made me look tho hahahaaaaa.
I'm sure there is an argument to what I'm about to say, but can't you rotate the regions?
Like with Unova and Sinnoh, wouldn't you be able to rotate Unova a good 90 degrees clockwise and then that cave would match perfectly with Sinnoh. It does ruin what you said about the seas of Kalos and Unova though but it's just a thought.
All I'm trying to say is that we don't know each regions North South East West.
Noah Gomes yeah!😍😍😍😍😉
We do with Sinnoh because of the East/West Shellos
Mathias Hummer
Shellos is irrelevant since they both appear in hoenn.
If you did that North wouldn't be North anymore
Was anyone else just staring at the Togepi egg plush?
Myles Watts Yup.
Cabba's Amvs uh okay
TOS Gaming And Music IM DEADDS
Cabba's Amvs k
me I was stare at all the time
Now all I want to do is travel to all regions..
Be sure to carry Pokemon so you are protected from tall grass and trainers
True.
That Kanto/Johto map is a thing of beauty, definitely getting one!
You didin't mention it, but parasect's pokedex entree also includes China.
they were just being lazy and decided that they did not want to make a region based off of china
Yeah because there Japanese
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I believe the continents are still named like their Earth counterparts, and they are in a similar place on the globe, just with slightly tweaked shapes and geography.
In the Pokémon world, the emphasis seems to placed more on smaller regions, rather than countries. There is no United States of America, but there is Unova, Orre and Alola. There is a North American continent though.
Every single Pokemon region has an 'o' sound in it's name. KantO, JOhtO, HOenn, SinnOh, UnOva, KalOs, AlOla.
Emily Andress illuminaty confirmed?????
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Nir Har-Chen more like Olluminaty!
Iam RSabLeye the Japanese name for unova is *isshu*
in germany unova is "einall" lol
Aren't Unova, Kalos, and Alola supposed to be "really far away"? Assuming far from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh
Yes technically, but again, this is his theory map.
Miner Mole horribly geographically incorrect
Well johto and Sinnoh are close to each other since The region of Fiore is among are Johto and Sinnoh, and Jasmine being in Sinnoh and Lucas/Dawn being in HG/SS. And of course Cynthia in the SinJoh ruins
No, they aren't, im pretty sure they made it perfectly clear that Alola was reletively close to Kanto. And there is no evidence to suggest that Kalos is really far away.
I will give you Unova though, cause its far from the other regions.
When was that stated Haltmann? There is a globe of the Pokémon world in Sun and Moon, as well as Ultra Sun and Moon, at the very beginning of the game that states upon observation "Even on a tiny globe like this one, Kanto and Alola are awfully far apart".
Numerous NPC's states Kanto is very far from Alola and how different the culture is between the distant regions. In fact a female Sightseer at the Malie City library ask you numerous questions about Alola and its culture and she's blown away at how the Alolan people use ride Pokémon when in her homeland, Johto, they use Fly to get around.
I love that sinnoh is north of kanto and johto
Mew was discovered in South America
17Rays Plays perhaps south from the NY city?
Brazilian Pokemon Region Confirmed
Wait what really?
i was thinking if the deepest part of the cave leads to sinnoh maybe its like the joke about digging too deep and you get to china
I'd like to see a 3D globe with all the regions printed/painted onto it. :)
(Although new ones would have to be added when new games are released with new regions... :p)
I know this is three years late but, maybe they could make stickers you can add onto the globe once new regions are introduced? Or they could sell globes once Pokemon ends.
This is something I've wanted to work on for years tbh. Glad to see I'm not alone :)
I think the only one you're wrong about is Hoenn's placement, Hoenn seems to have a good connection with the regions of Kanto, Johto, and the Sevii Islands, with many references across both regions, like Brawly and Bruno training in the Sevii Islands together, unlocking connectivity with the Hoenn region by retrieving a Ruby and Sapphire, the fact that Kyogre sleeps in HeartGold but Groudon sleeps in SoulSilver, indicating maybe the two legendaries would sometimes flee from Hoenn to rest from their battles, because if we split the games continuity up between the "red" games and "blue" games, that means HeartGold would take place after Ruby, and SoulSilver would take place after Sapphire, and if you combine the games in that order, you get one of each Groudon and Kyogre, additionally, a lot of Pokemon in the Johto Safari Zone not only are also available in eastern Kalos, but in northern parts of Hoenn as well, like Zangoose, Trapich, and Cacnea.
Also, the Deoxys from ORAS, while not necessarily present in the GBA universe, might have a counterpart with the Birth Island Deoxys, which is available in FRLG and Emerald, it's also Island 9 of the Sevii Islands, and you can visit Island 8 and 9 from Emerald, which suggests that Hoenn is close to the Sevii Islands, and by extension, Kanto and Johto. The Sevii Islands also have a nod to the Battle Tower with the "Trainer Tower", and use braille puzzles, only otherwise seen with the Regi trio in Hoenn and Sinnoh. In the GBA universe, the Deoxys may have successfully crash landed, albeit from a much smaller meteor, but landed onto Birth Island. That Deoxys may be the multiverse counterpart to the one fought in ORAS. Island 8 also serves as an alternative resting place for both Ho-Oh and Lugia, another visitable area from Emerald. And lastly, a lot of the people and Pokemon at Hoenn's Battle Frontier are clearly of Johto or Kanto origin, especially the Frontier Brains.
So I've modified your map, by sneaking Hoenn in south of Johto, and moving the Sevii Islands a tiny bit east to accommodate this fitment, I think that awkward triangle portion of land sprouting south from Kalos is getting in the way a little, Hoenn clearly isn't too close to regions like Kanto and Johto are to Sinnoh and Kalos by way of all the available lore, but it certainly shouldn't be that close to Unova like you have it, Unova was clearly stated to be much, MUCH farther away from the regions before it than they are to each other(this stated before Kalos was known).
Anyways, the fact that you can visit some of the Sevii Islands in both FRLG and Emerald suggests they're close, but that's not all, those two games have a cave by the same name Altering Cave, which the inside layout is identical in both, clearly suggesting either, the two caves are connected if you could dig deeper, or the same person, Pokemon, or group of people/Pokemon had visited both Hoenn and the Sevii Islands to make both caves. Also, the player character and his family in the Hoenn games are from Johto.
Anyways, I also think the Pokemon world, even down to it's layout, would be largely based on the real world's layout, that is why Unova was stated to be farther away from Kanto, Johto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh, because those four make up Japan. In my version of the map, you have all of the Japan territories to the easternmost side, then Kalos in the middle representing the placement of Europe, Unova west of that representing the Atlantic side of America, and then Alola on the westernmost end, representing it's closeness to Japan, yet also representing the Pacific side of America.
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I've always been annoyed by the lack of continuity amongst different games. I can understand retconned stuff, like a lot of the Pokedex entries in gen 1 mentioned real countries but I get that at that stage they didn't imagine the Pokemon world would get as massive as it is. But I don't see any excuse for two different relatively current games showing different looking maps of the same area, just seems lazy.
I'm early, so let me make a joke.
People's opinions on Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon.
Brandikai English I feel like it's going to be close to Pokemon Black and White 2 because how they have Solgaleo and Lunala merged with Necrozma is similar to that game. But it could possibly connect all the the games together like how bird keeper Toby stated in his theory video last year that Sun and moon could be the beginning of the end.
Elizabeth Thomas No one asked
Leopardair Xx Spiked Hair Master xX it was just a thought.
Elizabeth Thomas good theory here an other one what about its what is beyond the ultra space
Elizabeth Thomas Personally I feel like they are taking "Alternate Universe" concept they jave.been running with since ORAS and take it a step further by making two main series games that blatantly making ut an alternate universe of Sun and Moon. instead of subtly hinting it like they did with ORAS or B2&W2 We know that Lusamine wanted to open the Ultra Wormhole and we know Necrozma awakened in the presence of Ultra Beasts entering it's resting space. What if they get opened earlier? What if Lusamine accidentally woke up Necrozma early or even doing it on purpose? Who knows how far this string of events could change things or are changed from the beginning?
I remember when I played Conquest that one character remarked that "in a distant land people use strange balls to befriend pokemon" or something along those lines. So it may be that COnquest actually takes place in the canon game world, but they're just so far removed from everyone else that they haven't advanced as much technologically.
Yeah they could have distant from the other regions due to something happened between the regions like war between them
Or maybe Conquest take Place in the Past and Pokeballs are just invented
Pokemon Conquest's region should be on here. The grass kingdom Lord mentions the normal game regions in one of the pre-fight dialogues.
Considering the time period that game is set in it's possible that it is already in the pokeearth he mentioned but under a new name. Several countries are no longer called what they were called when they were founded.
I hope those map guys have a map of Lordran, but that would be very hard to make due to how interconnected and realistic Dark Souls 1 is in it's use of verticality, so a traditional map might not work. And yes, I just brought up Dark Souls in the comments section of a Pokemon video.
Aaahhh, i see your a man of culture as well!
hey @BirdKeeperToby I was at your stream today you noticed me!!!!!!Thank you senpia!!!!You are the best/my favorite youtuber!!!
Gabriela Chavez spelt senpai wrong idiot
TOS Gaming And Music I think you mean Baka
Gabriela Chavez
@@nobro6971 It's not Chinese, idiot
The day a game with all the regions comes out, I'm too busy playing Half Life 3.
Pokemon world is too big to be explained.
Our it's as big as our world and they can explain that
Much of our, real, world hasn't been mapped out yet (rain forests, etc) and we're discovering new species of creatures, all the time.
Miles Matheson true,and not going to even mention the ocean
Wow you, seem to type like, you, are Captain James, Tiberius Kirk.
False. Nothing is too big to be explained.
The Universe is not even too big to explained.
I like this theory, but I have a small problem with this. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but don't you catch WEST Shalous (Sorry if misspelled) and its evolution in Alola? This means that Alola is west of Sinoh, due to the east/west difference being because of the mountains there. Again, I might be wrong on this, but if I am right, you should probably go over the map again and double check the east/west versions.
Would it even matter, considering they are basically on opposite ends of the globe?
Shellos is not an answer, considering you catch one variant in Omega Ruby and the other one in Alpha Sapphire.
Shellos could have been brought over to Alola by tourists or settlers just like how lots of animal were brought to the new world
Kanto: East Asia
Johto: South Asia
Hoenn: Asia
Sinnoh: North Asia
Unova: USA
Kalos: France
Alola: Hawaii
Galar: UK
Kanto, johto are Kanto and Kansai regions of Japan Honshu Island.
Hoenn is Japan Okinawa and Kyushu Islands.
Sinnoh is Hokkaido which is a island of Japan
Sinnjo. I ship it.
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I've got this. Ransei is based on Great Britain so what if it is to the North-West of Kalos, and is to far away and isolated to transer, or maybe it makes a triangle with Kalos and Sinnoh. Also, Ferrum means iron, so maybe Gold, Silver, Iron? I think it could be an isolated island firstly populated by People from Johto? Maybe by the equator because of "Gaia Energy", or maybe they have just learned in there isolation to harness infinity energy using Z-crystal like stones, and also burst attacks are kinda like Z-moves, so maybe? Idk leave you're thoughts and a like so Toby can see this.
At first, I thought it was weird to have the region based on France to be so close to the regions based on Japan, but then I realized that Coastal Kalos and Hoenn share a ton of Pokemon, even moreso than Mountain Kalos and Kanto and Johto. So since Unova was the first region to be considered 'far away', that means Hoenn wasn't and should be near Kanto and Johto, so Kalos being next to Johto fits perfectly.
I think this map still works with some adjustments with Galar (gen 8) now existing. I'm not sure if you've seen with maps but I think GameFreak has directly put Galar right above Kalos. So maybe Sinnoh is farther east meaning more north of Kanto than Johto. Also, with your theory the Mt Coronet being equivalent to the North Pole, that could put Johto/Kanto as far north as say Canada for reference. Still warm enough for seasons but not south enough for any tropical areas, which makes sense because there's no tropical area in any of those regions.
Now I know said due to geography of Kalos and Hoenn, Hoenn is west of Kalos....but thanks to the addition of the safari zone in Johto, there a big cliff there and the real world equivalent of Hoenn is actually sideways. Would it be possible that Hoenn is south of Johto and Alola southwest of Kalos (still coinciding with the "east" reference?
In my version of the Pokemon World, every region "takes the place of" whatever location they were based off of. For example, in my version, where we have Paris, France, in that "exact same space" (relatively speaking) would be where Kalos is in the hypothetical version of their World I've envisioned. Sure, there may be inconsistencies with that, but in a hypothetical alternate version, who's to say I can't make a few re-writes?
Mr. Pokirby
I've thought the same thing as well
Same. As cool as this theory is, I don't agree with all the positions because I imagine there are more regions representative of other countries/places. This map cuts out the majority of the Euro-Asian continent by connecting Johto and Kalos directly.
Mr. Pokirby I thought the same thing. Well before Kalos existed, I used to pretend France existed.
I always thought the same thing. Then I became convinced that this was the case when I saw how similar in shape the regions were to their inspirations and saw the globes scattered around Sun and Moon. The globes clearly had continents in the shapes and sizes of Africa, Europe, and South America on them. I'm pretty sure that many people have already noticed this, but it's an interesting choice from GameFreak.
Coming back to this a year later after the announcement of the Galar region, kind of reinforces your theory as well. (I've always thought the same, just makes sense).
While i really like the map, i realised a hole in it while playing through Alpha sapphire recently. Mr. stone states that the Kalos region is far away, in the beginning of the delta episode. This of course makes it unlikely that Kalos is as close as shown on your map. I dont have a better placement of Hoenn myself, but i would love to see what you could come up with.
Sinroz Moon Perspective my friend, I find that sufficiently far, looks like Texas to maybe the north of West Virginia? Plus a body of water, and generally any secluding geographical mass tend to make a distance longer.
I think this is really cool and really sparks My imagination of the pokemon world compared to our world! They're similiar, yet very different!
Definitely looks like Galar is under Kalos.
The cave in unova goes through the ground, it's literally on the opposite side of the planet as sinnoh
Underwater tunnel for unova
I think the Regions are where they would be in relation to their real life versions are.
Just a thought, the saying in Unova about how the deepest part of the cave is said to reach all the way to Sinnoh, in my opinion is probably an Easter egg type thing about how in America there is an urban legend/saying that children are told and it goes, “if you dig a hole in the ground deep enough eventually you will end up in China/Japan on the other side of the world” and I’m thinking that since Unova is based off of an American place then it stands to logically infer that they may have adapted an common America saying to the game universe. Which tells us that Unova is/should be on the opposite side of the globe from Sinnoh.
This actually works great too because Orre is based off of USA state Arizona so I’m thinking that Orre and Unova are on a separate continent that is on the opposite side of the globe from the Sinnoh, Kant’s, Johto regions.
Hope this helps.
Hi Toby! I thought of an idea for a theory. What if the reason ash doesn't age because when he died in the episode with gastly, haunter, and gengar it stoped his body from aging but his soul is aging that explains why he is not aging but is getting more mature over time.
Pqrker oh my!why i've never thought of this one
nice one bro
Pqrker but maybe he is aging but slowly like that of Android 17 and 18 in dbz and dbs and like those of many Marvel character
Ahmad Ilyas anything could be possible that's a good theory to
ash gets really mature in kalos but it feels like he becomes like 5 years old or something and looses all of his maturity and common sense in alola.
Me who looked up "pokemon regions based on real places" : I came looking for copper and I found gold
@@S.S.1993 kalos is france🤦♂️
I have two major problems with this map. Firstly Sinnoh is NOT a polar region if it were, at least three quarters of it would be covered in snow at all times. The only places that have permanent snow are the upper reaches of Mt Coronet, routes 216/217 and Snowpoint City, which all have permanent snow due to being at least halfway up one of the tallest mountains in the Pokemon world. Yes, Sinnoh is north of Kanto/Johto, but not that far north. It is highly unlikely to be as far north as the UK is in our world. Secondly, and more importantly, these regions are ridiculously large. While not neccesarily geographically identical, or even in the same geographic locations, the regions are likely roughly the same size as their Earth counterparts. Indeed, the comparitively short distances involved suggests that some of the regions based on larger areas, like Unova and Kalos, may well be quite a bit smaller than their Earth counterparts. Your map shows the first four regions, based on less than half of Japan, taking up the better part of half of what is clearly an Earth-sized planet. The scale of your map compared to the Pokemon world simply does not make any sense. Still, it was a fascinating video, which you clearly put a lot of thought and effort into. Despite disagreeing with you on those two points, I still think you have everything in roughly the right positions relative to one another. So, overall, you did a really good job.
Replay Pokémon Sun and Moon.
Eric Slim it was explained when Platinum was first coming out the colder climate change was do to the distortions occurring in sinnoh due to giratina
Michael Card If the regions were the same size as the irl counter parts most of the map would be entirely ocean, and like he said Unova clearly is meant to be bigger than irl New York
Firstly, the map of our world is mostly ocean, secondly there is a lot of the pokemon world still to see and thirdly no, Unova is not larger than New York. It is smaller. you can't hike from one side of New York state to the other in 20 minutes, which is roughly how long it would take to get right around the map of Unova.
Michael Card Unova is clearly meant to be bigger though because of all the varying terrains, obviously they can't make it the same size as irl new york on a ds. and i know most of the world is ocean but if the pokemon regions were the same size as the irl counterparts there'd barely be any land
One thing that I find very unlikely about this, is that Mt Coronet and Mt Silver are regarded as basically the biggest mountains there are.. yet in the map you've made to connect them, there's a gigantic, region-sized mountain range in between the 2, that's obviously far bigger than either of them.
yes plz ask the guy to make the map in that kind of style
Tiny nitpick but near the end of Pokemon Ranger gs (Oblivia) the island most south of the region (dolce island) is destroyed by a giant death ray. Wow Pokemon games are wierd
Man this video got old
You did this!
I disagree with Unova having that weird landmass connecting to Sinnoh. Sinnoh does not have a landmass to the east nor the west that connects to it
It's actually possible to purchase an official map in Japan. I bought one in the Pokemon Center, it only includes the regions up to Gen 4 though. And it's literally stated in Green/Blue/Red (Japanese version) that Kanto is in Japan and that Major Bob (3rd gym leader) is American
As a history major geography has always been extremely pleasing to me so seeing a visual representation of the world in which some of my favorite things from childhood up to today is so amazing
Can you do an video about the anime map please
I love the idea of Kanto and Johto being just south of Sinnoh, it fits so perfectly. The Baby versions and evolutions of Kanto and Johto Pokemon in Sinnoh really supports this, that mountain range on the maps is great to hint at it as well.
The Sevii Islands look good compared to Alola, it makes sense for Alola to be just a bit South of them. Due to climate it works out.
I love the idea of Hoenn connecting to Kalos. The coast lines fit together and the formation looks great to me.
Unova is placed greatly, I believe it makes sense for it to be on the coast like that, bordering Johto and Kanto works out with encounters of those regions found in Unova as well.
But I think Alola could be closer to Kalos. Due to the fact that it is the only place so far that you can find Noibat and other Kalos Pokemon, but that may just be because of other games not being remade yet. Maybe The Sevii Islands could be more West and Alola could be east of them. Many encounters of Kanto, Kalos, and Johto Pokemon are in Alola After all.
With Unova and Sinnoh connecting in the cave. I believe that is just one of the situations where it is on the other side of the Earth, like America and China.
I haven't played the non-main series games, but they do look good with the evidence you provided.
Gen 8 and onward will be on the way, they could mess this map up but, I believe this to be a very great map with the evidence provided. Amazing work Toby, keep it up.
Also this should be made into a globe
This theory completely fall apart due to the globe in the Pokemon Game. Unova, Kalos, and Alola are all far away from the other 4 regions and it is somewhat base on our Real Earth. It not going to be 1 to 1, but that how it is.
Pokémon Conquest quite obviously mentions the other regions and Pokéballs. I like the map, but personally (take my opinion with a grain of salt), I think it should have Rensei (Pokémon Conquest's region), because, even if you can't "transfer" Pokémon, it seems largely isolated, similar to Alola. In fact, it's confirmed to be an island and one game where Arceus actually bothers to visit the player, outside of events. To my knowledge, the only games to actually have Arceus as a character involved at all are Conquest and Super Mystery Dungeon. Only one is confirmed to exist in the Pokéworld from the game itself, and that's Conquest. But that's just my thoughts. Great video! Gave me a lot to think about. : )
that could be an interesting take on arceus. if theres only one, it means it is capable of travesering to various dimensions ie. human world (the pokemon games including ransei) and the MD games.
now that ultra wormholes exist. its possible arcues uses those wormwholes or some means of dimmension hopping to get around.
Those Fantasy Engineering Studios Maps look amazing.
Does pokemon conquest count since you can transfer black rayquaza ?
you need to update the map with Galar now
Galara region is in Great Britain
Kanto is based on the Kanto plain of Japan, Unova is based on the New York metro region, Kalos is based on France (with Lumiose City specifically being based on Paris), and Orre from Pokémon Colosseum is based on Phoenix and the surrounding area.
Seems pretty spot on! :D
I still think the PokeEarth looks like Earth, but this is a great theory is great.
I think the cave that "connects to Sinnoh" is a joke at the American joke of Digging to China. And Alola is A Lot smaller than IRL Hawaii, because 4 of our close together islands were fused to become one island, and in Game I can walk from Hawaii Kai to Waianae within minutes.
I like the new setup
Ah, Brits. I spent the entire video thinking he was saying "Mt. Corner"
"Eastern Influence" doesn't this mean that Kanto and Johto are to the East of Alola, not to the West?
J Mell Kanto and Johto are east to Alola on a map he literally said that it was like that in the vid
If you were in Alola, according to Toby's map you would have to travel West to get to Kanto.
But the sign that says "Eastern Influence" refers to Kanto/Johto being to the East OF Alola, not Alola being TO the East of Kanto/Johto
Because Johto is the influence, which should be to the East of Alola "Eastern Influence"
J Mell it's east across the entire globe when on the full world sized map. Yeah, it's closest to the west, but like in real life, America refers to Aisa as the east, despite it being closer west of it.
J Mell But Kanto and Johto are technically east of Alola if u look on a map he says so in the video
America refers to Asia as the East because that terminology originated from Europe, the West.
You might as well say that Sinnoh is South of Johto because "Yeah it's closest to the North" but its "technically South if you go across the globe"
Kanto is based on the Kanto area of Japan
Johto is based on the Kansai area of Japan
Hoenn is based on the Kyushu island of Japan
Sinnoh is based on the Hokkaido island of Japan
Unova is based on the United States, with many similarities to New York
Kalos is based on France
Alola is based on Hawaii
Galar is based on the United Kingdom
The Pokemon world is like the DC world... which is Earth but slightly different. Just put the regions where they are based off. There... done.
So where do we put unova? It's an entire region based off of one city
Trevisk It's New York City.
Trevisk Please note: Pokemon regions aren't to scale. If they are.... It's Whoville.
Dude I don't wanna be rude but i don't think you get my comment, what I'm trying to say is how can one entire region be only equal to one city while 2 are equal to japan, New York isn't an entire continent
Trevisk It's not to scale. That's the short answer. There's only so much you can put in a game. New York is crammed pack with stuff, while the real life Kanto has its iconic locations more spread out.
I have a theory for Hoenn.... No real evidence but i think Regigigas was trying to SAVE the rest cause Hoenn would only keep getting hit, So regigigas pushes it away
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You got me convinced that Kalos is practically between Johto and Hoenn, and that it is part of the same continent as Johto (and Kanto and Sinnoh of course).
Unova feels like the only non-island region that should be on a separate continent though, but definitely west of the main one.
Did you guys leave that big space below Kalos in case southern Kalos becomes a thing some day?
honestly I feel as if alola is close to unova
They both have many of the same characters
Theyre both based off the USA
Lastly there are a ton of gen 5 pokemon in alola
I have 1 question
Where do you think the Faron region would be from Pokkèn tournament??
This theory is amazing!!! I love this theory it’s the best!!!
*My head cannon map is just the real world but pokemon regions in places where their real world counterparts are.*
*Kantó, Jotho, Hoenn* y *Sinnoh* = Japón
*Orre* y *Unova* = Estados Unidos
*Kalos* = Francia
*Galar* = inglaterra
unova isn't just new york it's the eastern U.S.
At 4:18 if u look at the globe in the pokemon game if u look close and long enough that u will see Africa And eurasia (Europe and Asia) those 2 continents are connected so I thought I would put them together.
I think that the regions are in the same places their inspirations are in real life. Sinnoh is not just north, but northeast and across a channel. Hoenn is southeast of Kanto and Johto, and the map we see is actually sideways. Kalos, Galar, and the new gen 9 region are next to each other, and across the ocean from Unova.
Also, I can only assume that Unova replaces part of the US East Coast, from Delaware up to Connecticut.
The lining up in Johto and Kalos is because they're both mountainous terrain.
Unless there's a trans-Siberian railway in the Pokemon world, Sycamore probably flew to the equivalent of Italy or Germany and then took a train into Kalos.
The lining up of the sea Pokemon in Kalos and Unova is because they're both on the equivalent of the North Atlantic
Bird Keeper Toby, I have one question and one comment regarding the final map.
Q: Why is there a peninsula stretching south of Kalos?
C: With regards to the Sinnoh/Unova area of the map, I don't think there should be a "land bridge" connecting the two regions. Due to lack of prior generation Pokemon available in Black/White, I would think that there would just be ocean separating the two, which would have lead to the differences we see in wildlife.
What are your thoughts on this?
I disagree, but that's because from all the research I did on it (I'm a huge Pokemon nerd and spent a good 4 months last year obsessively researching the subject) the Pokemon regions really are still canonically established in their real-world Earth analog positions. Unova is set where New York is. Alola is set where 4 of the Hawai'ian islands are. Kalos is where France is. in relation to eachother, these regions are where their Earth analogs are in relation to each other. so Kalos is not right next to Johto. Sinnoh is even farther north and slightly to the East from Kanto. the Johto and Kanto regions are not oriented so that up on the maps is north. in fact, Hoenn is oriented essentially upside down! you claim that Alola doesn't quite match up to Hawai'i and that Unova doesn't quite match up to New York. but Alola is only meant to be the largest 4 Hawai'ian island, and New York is HUGE in real life. you really shouldn't underestimate how large of a region it is. whenever I talk to people from Europe they always get so completely flabbergasted at the size of places in America, because they don't realize the differences in scale between here and there. Unova may seem humongous to be just one city in size. but remember that New York city is BY FAR the largest and most densely populated city in the U.S.. and technically the region isn't really the entirety of NYC, nor is it JUST in NYC. as I understand it, it's mainly Upper Manhattan Island and Central Park, but includes parts of New Jersey? I think just off-map would be Long Island. but that is more than enough, compared to the Kansai region of Japan, to constitute a Pokemon Region of comparable size to the Kanto or Johto regions. after all, those only encompassed partial snippets of area in real-life Earth, too.
Whenever I see a fan region, the thing many fans seem to ignore is that no one region is that big. Like the closest we have is Kalos which is the size of France, but even that's not that big (we're talking at most the size of Johto and some of Hoenn). But like when I see an Australia themed region, fans always use all of Australia, ignoring that Kalos is only around the size of New South Whales, which is only 25% of all of Australia. So for me, a major rule of thumb whenever one wants to make a full blown region, it's imperative that fans stick to size restrictions. This means that if we get a region based on California, it'll either be based around Northern California or Southern California. An Australian based region would most likely need 3 separate regions, one for New South Whales, one for Queensland, and one for the western part. India would be very similar with size restrictions due to how massive it is, a Canada region would most likely be the area of Vancouver, the pacific North West would only focus on either the Seattle area or Portland area, etc.
I definitely think Kalos is North of Kanto. If that were the case, the caves we find Mewtwo in line up, and it’s closer to Sinnoh where Sycamore apparently came from. If Kalos were straight west, of Johto, it wouldn’t make sense for there to be a train only connecting Sinnoh to Kalos when there is already and East to West train that connects Johto to Kanto.
Hoenn should also probably be south of Johto then because you can reach Birth Island in the Sevii Islands to catch Deoxys from both Kanto and Hoenn.
Funnily enough Serebii confirmed their map was copied by gamefreak and placed in a dewford town house in Omega Ruby & Alpha Sapphire. So if you wanted to be technical, serebii's pokeearth map is canon now it seems, as when you look at the texture of the map it looks nearly identical to serebii's. Just some food for thought.
There are a few problems. Why are the Seafoam and Whirl islands frozen? We might be able to explain seafoam by Articuno, but not Whirl. Also, you have the shoal cave in Horn that has an icy part. Maybe that part is close to whirl islands? Also, how do we know the orientation of the regions on the pokearth? I think that unova and possibly Hoenn are oriented differently than we think they are. Perhaps even Kanto Johto and Sinnoh are tilted differently. As far as sinnoh Johto and Kanto are concerned, they have to be located where Kanto and Johto are beside each other and Sinnoh is north somewhere of it. What if Mt. Coronet and Mt. Silver are directly in line and attached to each other as part of the same mountain range?
Now place galar near kalos
Regions are quite small (at max around 130 miles by at max around 75 miles )so the pokemon globe is either somewhat smaller,it's stretched out, or a bit of both
What if there was a very deep cave in Stark Mountain that connected to the cave in Unova? Plus we've seen that with the underwater tunnel, they aren't neglectful of the idea of pathways under the sea. It says the cave goes deep, but in what sense? Deep as in length, or maybe that and deep underground..? Because it seems like that could be plausible
I think the cave actually does connect.... but you'd have to spend at least a week walking in a dank cave to get there.
And there are "Magnetic Pulls" in every other region following that to evolve your nosepass's and such.
I always thought anything upto gen 4 was all in Japan, gen 5 was based on New York and gen 6 being based of France and gen 7 obviously Hawaii
Toby, if you watch the Japanese tv version of the "XYZ" opening, you'll see something that looks like the UK!
XYZ REGION IS IN FRANCE!!!!
It seems well reasoned speculation based on the evidence, I just wish there was a bit more evidence for Kalos, Unova, Alola. and Hoenn (and, definitely, the side games), but with the information we have to work with it seems the best that can be done to me.
It’s been so long!! I remember when you released this video,You look so different now.
here im know the kalos is in the middle of pokemkn earth kalos connect to 2 regions galar on north of kalos and johto west connect kanto hoenn unova and alola not connect unova at east of kalos region and hoenn is at south it and sinnoh is connect to kanto region at north and alola is at the south west
I NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE FERRUM REGION IS!!!!!!!!!!!!