I’m actually not tired of hearing about Cody and Satori. They want ppl to stop talking about them, because as soon as that happens it’s going to be swept under the rug and they’ll be able to continue scamming people in peace. I want ppl to keep on them.
Exactly!!! I will only ever NOT want to talk about them is when they actually admit the truth, that they have been faking and scamming, only then can we rest...they are purposely staying out of the lime light because they think “oh give it time and it will pass” this is one instance I will never get sick and tired of hearing about them, they need to confess...period...
@@TheGoodSamaritan8557 Kinda like that reporter that gave a psychic an old pic (of the reporter herself) telling her it was of a "kidnapped" girl & the psychic said the girl was dead & the reporter is all "you sure about that?" 😂🤣
@@cissyiniguez is there video of this??? If so, please, please, please drop the link, or guide me to where I can find it, please! 🙏🏻 Cause that shit's funny as hell!
Nah bro the spirits could read thoughts and gave them the names from the fake obituaries. They will always have an excuse and the idiots will always believe it.
I don't understand how anyone could convince a kid that his dead grandma is contacting him, bringing him to his knees and sobbing, and not feel like a terrible person.
Literally every time their little circular red audio visualizer showed up in the corner, I looked in the circle like “what am I supposed to see here?” I’m so red arrow/circle-pilled. Thanks, TH-cam.
I'd like you to know that my mother saw the Sam and Colby video. She was going to book a very expensive stay for the family so we could speak to my brother who passed away. We don't have much money, and my parents were desperate to speak with him. These people would have taken every dime from my mother. I showed her your first video, and to my surprise, she actually believed you. Thank you for your work and for getting this trip out of her head.
Yeah, this stuff is EXACTLY why these people aren't a joke, they are leeches that swoop in on grieving people because they want their money. I'm glad your parents weren't another one of their victims.
When people say these two are aren't scammers, they forget that it isn't just rich TH-camrs who give them their money. It's literally vulnerable people desperate to communicate with their loved ones, and willing to pay any price. It's disgusting. So glad your mom listened
Seriously, and especially the post stating “we are not in the business of proving or disproving anything in the paranormal.” Like, okay then… why are you here and what is your goal??
That's one of the reasons I really like Ryan and Shane's duo when they do paranormal investigations. Ryan is a full on believer in the paranormal and usually takes the whole investigation more seriously than Shane, which is very true when they do their solo tours near the end of each episode. While Shane is the complete opposite of Ryan. He's a skeptic and taunts the ghost and/or ghouls anytime he gets since he doesn't think they can do anything to him. On his solo tours, he'll just fuck around with objects at the location while constantly yelling at the spirits to do stuff like throw him down the stairs, throw something at him, grab him, etc. There are rare times where Shane has been a believer but it's really rare.
@@nevaeh9125agreed although I wouldn’t say Shane was a believer it was more something strange would happen that nobody could explain you can see him being more rational in the debrief
people almost always accuse others of what they themselves do knowingly wrong, which is why they think others do too that's how shitty people justify their behavior
Classic turn it around and point fingers to deflect. John (and his ilk) isn't the same, even if he is profiting, because he's trying to pull the wool off of peoples' eyes, rather than over them, like frauds do. He's advocating for using your own brain to think about things, and they're shutting that down. Which people would see if they looked between the lines, but ofc, these people always have some sort of excuse to keep others on the hook anyway. The owner CLEARLY has a motive in all of this. They bought the house. They didn't plan on living there. Oh, sorry, I meant they did move in, but they "can't live there year-round because the energy is too powerful." So they let others take residence, play, and tour instead. Hmm...
Hi, just chiming in, as a medical student, on the question about Leukemia making it impossible to "crack" one's joints. Yeah, that's not a thing. The snapping sound doesn't even come from the bones but from the synovial fluid that helps the bone ends move without grinding together.
Is it actually bad to pop joints like this overall for your health or "cracking knuckles" in general? I hear several conflicting answers on that question.
@generalgreevus8773 not a medical student but I've researched into the topic for school and it can lead to reduced grip strength and swelling but if I remember correctly the studies were done with older individuals, a lot who already had preexisting bone issues such as arthritis. So in conclusion you're probably fine to do it just do it correctly and don't dislocate anything
@@generalgreevus8773 Nursing student here, from what I can remember, synovial fluid is basically lubricant between the articular cartilage on the ends of each bone. The popping comes from a nitrogen bubble bursting in the synovial fluid. It’s pretty controversial that popping your joints wears down the articular cartilage, as long as you’re not excessively cracking/popping it or forcing it, it’s fine.
"What kind of cigar?" such a fucking homerun of a question. If I was emotionally manipulated into hearing some people try to scam me by pretending to talk to Ghosts, then fucking brought my dead relative into their scam - then bring me that close to tears, just for rationality to grasp me by the neck and make me ask: "What kind of cigar?" AND THEY CAN'T ANSWER. That's such a fucking banger of a "Oh, these fucks."
Yeah their question of "what does that mean" is so weird, because following the logic, they're not the ones answering. They could never have even heard of a cigar before and the ghost would answer anyway, right?
@@Dradeeus Exactly, it's such a fucking "one hit kill"-question. Unless they stated specifically what kind of cigar, he'd not be convinced - and there's no way in hell they'd be able to guess that.
it really is _such_ a good one to ask about specifics like that. i know if someone ever tried to pull this disgusting BS on me id get real specific, cause theres no way someones gonna pull out my dead loved ones and convince me easily that its real, especially at some random house like that? that part is what gets me, its always that ghosts only stick around places of importance, or the places they died... why the conjuring house? yeesh.
@@princembat I didn't even think about that. But if Ghosts are real and I was a Ghost, I'd be insanely fucking specific injokes just so I could convince as many of my friends and shit as possible. There's just no way in hell that a Ghost that could transfer messages would say shit like: "Hello! I'm good! Heaven is real! It's real nice here! Smoke a cigar for me! gragreagbhtr, haha, my boy will understand! Farewell now, I know we didn't talk a lot but I just don't have the fucking time. Remember that life is about love!" I'd be like: ", It's me, Zyrodil. Pucklahontas. Fingus. Insta-boyl. Svante. " If my friends heard a stranger they paid to make contact with me in the afterlife say these things, they'd be fucking convinced it was me in a fucking heartbeat. If they went into specifics, I'd be able to break down and go into detail about so many fucking injokes that are impossible to research because they are documented offline. This isn't even fucking unique to me, pretty much everyone has something like this.
My fiancé passed away a few days ago, and seeing people exploit other peoples grief for profit like that, giving them false hope and false information really hits home and makes me absolutely disgusted.
The swedish ghost investigators LaxTon recently went to the conjuring house, and “for some reason” Cody and Satori wasn’t able to participate in their video, since they couldn’t find/it is hard to find info about them since they’re from Sweden.
i mean, i dont think it would be that hard. they could very easily use a vpn and either google translate, or an actual translator to help understand more specific stories to include
@@TheeEnglishLesbian If the death documents are kept in a government site they may need a national document to access it, where I live you would need the equivalent of a social security number, maybe it's the same in Sweden
I think it may be even more fundamental than that. It was the language barrier. Codi and Satori (likely) don't speak Swedish. I know most of the population speaks fluent English. However, asking questions in Swedish would be a good way to completely expose the ruse. If they were really talking to a dead relative, it shouldn't matter that the "mediums" understand the language or not. Let them "establish contact" in English then switch languages. Although, it might be fun to watch them attempt to wing-it.
@@KirstenMarie_MS3 That's crazy talk. Everyone knows that ghosts have to be certified to be completely fluent in English and sign a Ghost Contract saying that they will only ever communicate in perfect, modern English.
While sharing pics of your feet on instagram at the same time 😂 But no, we all know that foot fetish people only watch paranormal videos hunting for feet 😂
@DR.DisInfect they deleted it. It was done by her dad, right foot still hidden, in an area they can completely control. Meaning someone downstairs could use a broom to the ceiling, or be in the room and knock. Red flags all over. Should be done in an outside place by someone in it for the science. But even then, they could add knocking in post. Everything about them is a red flag. Just as bad as those itc channels. Playing with people's emotions and getting paid for it is illegal for 'psychics' when they're lying. They are destroying their reputation and her dad's. The longer the lie the worse it'll be and the harder to apologize. So many people could probably sue them over this. Jason should've been the dad who puts his foot down and tells them to fess up, not join the mockery. Any believer should be feeling betrayed by this, or at least upset. And that's all I'm going to comment on the matter.
If TH-cam doesn’t create a anime parody of the Scooby gang meeting and defeating this villanous duo, complete with unmasking I would be highly disappointed.
I'm tired of them taking advantage of vulnerable, grieving people and making money off it. I'm not tired of watching them repeatedly being ripped another new asshole
I don’t understand why their whole routine includes the persons relatives to begin with tbh, if I go to the conjuring house I would rather hear about the scary spirits there rather than bringing up my dead loved ones that have no business manifesting in that place. Really nice that the people form the channel keep calling them up for the cold reading, I don’t understand why he doesn’t call them out in the later added on sections.
Exactly!!! I’ve asked that question sooooo many times!! Why is “my dead grandmother” manifesting in the Conjuring House??? It really makes no sense?! Every location those 2 scammers go to, they never “communicate” with the spirits allegedly haunting the location, it’s always whoever they’re with grandpa or grandma ...it makes no sense...and no one ever questions that...beyond ridiculous
Well, if it didn't sell, they wouldn't be doing it. CH clearly does enough research to know what brings in guests, and if people are coming specifically for C&S, they know what side their bread is buttered on.
The simple explanation is probably because they want the whole experience to be about them. Psychics, even particularly bad ones like these two, tend to be pretty narcissistic people. You kind of have to be to take advantage of people's grief for a living.
I wouldn't even mind them so much if they were having some random spooky fun with a made-up ghost (not based on anyone real who has died). Supposedly communicating with people's real deceased relatives is extra gross. I don't even really like it when psychics do that with 100-year-old tragedies, but to do it specifically to and with the people who are coming in and paying is nasty. There is a reason spiritualism/séances/psychics took off post-WWI. They were exploiting grieving people (mostly women -- mothers, wives, sisters).
They, Cody and Satori clearly went online and saw a photo of Dakota smoking a cigar with his grandfather on Facebook. . His grandfather has since passed away - C and S claimed they spoke to his grandfather and he was smoking a cigar. Dakota wasn’t having it and asked for the brand of cigar…..he even said if that’s my ‘pops’ he will know exactly what brand of cigar he’s smoking, as clearly they had a favourite cigar. C & S didn’t even address the question. That’s the sort of faking that’s disgusting to pull on people and I’m surprised Dakota didn’t call them out on it
I think that was his way. Kinda like If You Know You Know kinda deal. Because like others have mentioned being really skeptical can be a kiss of death in their field.
Dakota is a spineless child. Peeing his pants thinking of getting less views or money He’d rather have his dead grandfather puppeted around by two scam artists then not believe in the doctrine everyone else around him does I hope he feels ashamed and embarrassed, if I were his family I’d refuse to associate with him
Dakota’s career relies on these fake claims. Cotori are a fantastic pull for them. Project Fear claimed to have no knowledge on them and that there was no way for them to know they were frauds. Later in the damn video he said himself that they saw the footage.
He didn't "call them out on it" because he is in on it. As is the rest of the jokers in that room. Everyone is there to make a buck and gain notoriety. Every person there is a charlatan. The end.
I just checked their website and the social media contract that you HAVE to sign as an influencer says you need to send them your content for approval before you post it. That's probably part of the reason why they're all so neutral.
I was also convinced that they behaved naive and neutral on purpose, while questioning and compiling contradicting material in their videos so that the lie is obvious for the viewers. If they had accused Cotory head on, the pair would just shut down the production and refuse to work with them.
You seriously deserve it Mythos! You doing such a great job to open the eyes of people for fraudsters like these two! They might scream and shout loudly at you about being a nonbeliever, but you will always have our support ♥️
"My memory is back" is disguuusssting. The smallest part of me wants it to be real just to know they aren't as vile of people as that would mean, but I know that's not the case. Just Deplorable
Manipulating vulnerable people to make a buck makes my blood boil and my stomach churn. Analyze, take apart, test the world around you, your human brain is what keeps you safe and alive on planet Earth ❤
Does no one notice that the knocking sounds the same no matter what surface they are on? Pavement, concrete, wood, grass all sound the same. Like a bone pop.
I noticed, when Sam and Colby took Cody and Satori outside on the GRAVEL mind you, and I was expecting to hear the footsteps on the gravel but no it's the same solid sound.
I was screaming with laughter when he said "We have no reason to be skeptical" When people claim they can talk to ghosts, you have *every* reason to be skeptical!
Dude, spirits and the afterlife are definitely real. You just haven't had your moment yet. Please stop trying to make it seem like anyone who believes is crazy. It's annoying.
@@ronnaargall9975 I have had my moments, it took me a year to figure out these wailing noises in my house and doors slamming shut constantly was just a gap underneath my back door letting air in. I have had also seen ghosts while in my bed, which was just sleep paralysis. The tv in my house would very rarely turn on with the volume at full blast, only to learn that's what my old tv did whenever it did an update which was set to do at anytime even when off in the settings. Yea no, you are crazy.
So, not about Leukemia, but I have several degenerative diseases and the reason Satori cited wasn't just the cancer, but the deterioration of the joints/bones. That said... her claims are 100% bullshit. Having deteriorating joints makes it SO MUCH MORE EASIER to pop than if they were healthy. It's like saying... "I can't go ice skating because I have blades for feet"... uh... isn't that ideal? That makes it EASIER to ice skate. Or, "I can't bake this cake because I have all the ingredients and then some". It's nonsensical. And I despise the fact that they brought out the cancer card because now people are going to be more hesitant to call it out. I know, because I do the same. Sometimes when I want some busybody to leave me alone, I bring up one of my serious conditions and it makes it awkward enough that they leave - which is the goal. That's what Satori is doing. Shame on them.
I basically made a medical dissertation comment of my own along these same lines, but I'll leave most of it out and only re-comment a main part. Satori said if he popped his ankle he wouldn't be able to get it back in, because cancer. That's not even how popping a point works in the first place. So not only is her pseudo-medical reasoning completely wrong, she's completely unaware of how joints (primarily synovial joints, the ankle being a hinge synovial joint) even pop in the first place. She's talking about a dislocation. Plus, he's has a transplant and all that. The only reason Leukemia would have affect on him popping his joints would be prior to being treated, because of the bone swelling and nerve pressure which would cause pain _to_ pop a joint -- but not keep someone from being able to do so in the first place. Unlucky for them I'm not only a skeptic, I'm also a cynic -asshole- and have no problem pointing out the bullshit in someone's use of "but my condition". I'll feel sorry that someone had to deal with it, but it will not keep me from calling a spade a spade. Just a tinge of the 'tism, know what I mean?
@@Fluffy6555 i mean i cant speak for prince Andrew but my mom could not sweat for like the first 15 years of my life, she was in a really bad car crash and her body just would not sweat(was pretty debilitating she had to relearn how to speak, and write as well as a lot of motor function loss), but for us it basically meat if the temp hit about 70 we were basically on a strict timer to get her somewhere cool before she fainted and could possible have died from to much even mild heat exposure. But i want to say it was in like 2015 or somewhere in that ball park she was able to get electro therapy that sorted out the sweating issue, so while it is possible that he could not sweat, i doubt with his money it was not fixable.
Absolutely, as my medical condition worsens my joints have gotten obnoxiously loud and I can control the pops by doing certain movements that I know are a guarantee!
The problem with Catori complaining about people trying to 'debunk' them, is that in order to 'disprove' something, it has to have been proven in the first place. Ghosts, demons, spirits etc, there is no proof, no evidence for these things... at all. None one little shred. So, it's not on 'haters' (aka logical people) to debunk them, it's on people like Cody and Satori to prove they aren't bullshitting (which they are). If you proved it to people, I mean some black and white scientific evidence that these things exist, pretty sure they'd accept it.
This exactly. I believe John mentioned the “burden of proof” in one of his recent debunking videos and it still holds up here; the so-called “experts” here should be responsible for proving their statements, not us.
My aunt survived leukemia twice and her knees pop so loudly we thought someone was knocking on the front door last Christmas, so in my bias case study with only one sample, joints still pop, might even pop better, theory pending larger case study.
was just going to comment something similar. My best friend had leukemia and her joints would pop so so loud. And would always go back into place, so, i’m not entirely sure what Satori meant when she said it wouldn’t go back?
@@Sarah_Jeann I'm pretty sure she just has a severe lack of understanding of... materials in general. Like she doesn't know what bones are or what cancer is. But she just hail mary'ed that as an explanation on the spot.
I just posted a long comment about this exact thing myself. To sum it up joint popping is and effect of putting pressure on a joint causing gas to escape. It's easily repeatable and since Leukemia goes after bones after treatment the bones will be a bit thinner -- meaning it would be _easier_ to manipulate a joint to cause gas to move around the synovial joint (just a lubricated membrane covered joint, like your knee or.... 😮 ankle) in turn causing the popping. Thinning of the bones could also make the joint more "cavernous", which would mean a larger area of force compressing out a bit more encapsulated gas making a louder popping/cracking sound. Satori even said "if he popped his joint he wouldn't be able to get it back in because Leukemia". You don't dislocate a joint and reset it to pop in the first place, so that claim makes no sense. I, for one, can open my hands up wide and close them in a fist and all my knuckles will pop, which I can repeatedly do. It only causes irritation or pain if I do it back-to-back 5+ times within a couple of seconds. With the span that Cody does it -ironically my name is also Cody- there would be little to no joint inflammation.
@@ahall9839 Or how a joint even pops, she thinks it pops out and pops back in. I promise he's not doing _that_ , but at the same time literally no one (but her, I guess) is claiming that's how he's doing it.
I remember you mentioning years ago that you were disappointed that a lot of people misunderstood your “think critically” catchphrase at the end of your gaming videos. Hearing you use it at the end of this one just felt so perfect. Really loving the main channel content (and the extra gaming stuff too)!
@@JohnWolfe I honestly don't understand how people could misunderstand it like that when critical thinking has always been a thing. It doesn't just count for debunking, it also counts for media analysis and the like. I never really thought much about it.
@@magnus1383 I grew up in an extremely religious household, where any kind of doubt or skepticism was perceived as being "arrogant" or insulting or dickish. It's the whole doubting Thomas thing mentioned in this video - anyone that questions an authority is a threat, so make them out to be bad. It filters through all of society: note the common trope of smart or skeptical people in sitcoms and dramas being smart asses or uptight.
@@JohnWolfe I love the catch phase, ''Think critically'' I didn't know what is the meaning of this word is, But In my mind I always thought Think critically means to be careful or to think carefully about stuff, Because of the horror games you play and you were not jump scared easily and was always careful! Today I googled critical meaning and word definition is different from what I though it is. Oh! forgot to say, The amount of respect I have for you is immeasurable C:
The irony of Jacqueline slating skeptics for 'telling outright lies to hurt Cody & Satori' while they're bare-faced lying to potentially emotionally vulnerable people about their dead relatives...
I will always think these "mediums" and "psychics" are predatory and gross. It's wrong to prey on people's desire to connect with loved ones that have passed.
Real psychics and mediums have strong ethics to follow in regard to what they do. They can't give medical advice, they don't share messages with people who don't desire to hear them, they don't tell you when you are going to die, etc. Most people seek out mediums for closure and people often find a lot of relief after receiving it and can "move on" with their lives afterwards. What these two are doing at the Conjuring House is just incredibly unfortunate and deceitful.
@@destineeamber7577 "Real psychics and mediums" don't exist. They are all just magicians pulling tricks on people. Even in the odd case that their manipulation makes someone feel better, I'd recommend a therapist over an illusionist for that, thanks.
@destineamber7577 you are a funny one 😂 honestly, whoever is thick enough to fall for nonsense like this, psychics, fortune tellers and whatnot absolutly deserves it. hopefully it is a hard learning experience for them.
in the grand scheme of things, this is such a good commentary and critique of how paranormal youtubers direct their presentations to subliminally influence people into believing things are true while also absolving themselves of any responsibility for subliminally implanting any sort of belief. this revelation is going to be real mental gymnastics for their fans to grasp because they're already so wrapped around the fingers of these paranormal youtubers. you really did a great job, john, cross-referencing past content and revealing the cracks. awesome!
"It would all pale in comparison to seeing Ankle Boy and Alphabet Girl over here talk to dead people without their shoes on." 33:00 is such a KILLER line
The worst part is the people who believe it and defend it, because they desperately want it to be true. They wsnt their dead relatives to still be with them. However, we must remember to focus our anger at these psychics who abuse them.
It’s gross when people like this guy spread a bunch of bullshit because they can’t accept all the proof that has already been given! He’s just wanting popularity by talking about them. I don’t know who this guy even is! It just popped up in my feed.
@@pancakes8670 Yep. I have a friend who lost his mother a few years back and really got into all that ghost shit as a way to cope, he goes along to ghost hunts organised by a group run by friends of his...and they charge him full price to go on these things knowing full-well that this stuff is copium for him.
"Energy vicinity" - What a term. That is coming from the lady who said she has no idea how their power even works in the first place. This whole Cotori incident is flipping hilarious! Can't wait to see what else is exposed of them, or better yet, more videos of them trying to save face. Great job Mr. Wolfe!
Dakota asking "What brand of cigar"...he HAD to have known. There's no way he didn't ask that as a gotcha question. I'm guessing he just doesn't want to burn bridges in the paranormal community or gain a reputation as a skeptic.
I think that is 100% it, people forget that she is the daughter of one of the main dudes from Ghost Hunters and they seem to be pretty big in the community so he probably wanted to expose them but knew if he did he would not get to work with people he probably has wanted to for years
Jason Hawes is sticking up for his kid even though he has to know that she and Cody are faking it all. And since he's an OG, everyone has to be polite and not out his kid entirely, or he might get them blacklisted within the paranormal community. It's one thing to be a parent and support your child in their endeavors, but you shouldn't support them when they are being horrible liars and their lies exploit the grief of others and could have very real consequences.
@@carolusrex5213 True it didn't occur to me that if any one of these people lean towards skepticism then they could be permanently ostracised by the paranormal community, just as the TCH owner letter affirms that would happen, and there goes all their income revenue
I think it is important to note that TH-camrs, bloggers, ghost hunters, etc sign a contract when they visit the conjuring house. The owner has to be allowed to review whatever you are planning on posting and reserve the right to refuse to allow you to post it. Basically, if the owner thinks you are casting them in anything but the most flattering of lights, than you can’t post your video. The owner is a lawyer, and I have heard that she has threatened more than one TH-camr with legal action, calling their opinions defamatory or slanderous. That’s why project fear and everyone else who records there are afraid to straight up call them frauds.😊
If the owner really Is a lawyer, she's a bad one, cause if she's involved in scamming people, her claims of slander wouldn't hold up in a court of law.
This is important to know. This could just be a rumor, but there's talk going around that she's threatening legal action against Sam & Colby, even though they've said very VERY little to criticize Catori. It would explain quite a bit, including why these creators don't call out what seems obvious to the rest of us.
The requirement to give full names even for people not registering the room or paying for it is the clear and obvious giveaway that they are googling the names.
And when the supposed dead relative says his name is "Rob" when nobody ever called him that when he was alive. And it just so happens that the obituary available online never mentions his nickname.
Thats why i would personally love to do this with a film crew to prove them wrong. I've legally changed my name. First and last name. You dont find anything about my family by googling my now legal name. youd have to somehow find my birth name to find anyone
@@RenniganEaglePretty sure they would deny you just because they'd find nothing on you. I believe this comes up in John's first video, they won't take just anyone who wants to see the experience. They'll want to background check them first.
@@thepenitence Also, they probably take a credit card for a deposit. This would ensure that they'll have the desired info to begin searching online for dead relatives.
I almost want to go there and watch them struggle. Where I live, my family name is super common, and my family tree is kind of a mess with some parents not giving their names to their kids and such. Also I don't really have a big digital footprint, I almost never use my actual name online. So, the chance of them to find any dead relative of mine on the Internet would be really slim. Unfortunately, I don't have the money nor the motivation to book a plane ticket to go to a country that's something like 15 000 kilometers from where I live.
Cody and Satori just make me mad. Despite what they say, they ARE doing this for money. They work with the Conjuring House and are getting paid for this. They are using people’s dead loved ones to make money. What specifically got me was the comment with Dakota’s grandfather and him “getting his memory back”. That comment made me so mad because watching a family member’s mind deteriorate and watching them forget who you are and everything they’ve gotten to experience is HEARTBREAKING!! And these two just brought back those memories for Dakota with that comment that they didn’t need to make! What kind of person finds out that someone’s loved one had dementia before they died and then says that that same loved one got their memory back, ESPECIALLY if this is all fake(which is most likely is) is such a cruel thing to do!! There are so many people who would probably pay anything to talk to their loved ones again, myself included, and Cody and Satori are using that against innocent people. It’s just so heartless!
The post from the conjuring houses owner was just gross. “You are not our market…” could it be more transparent what her agenda is? I really can’t believe these type of scammers still exist in 2024.
Hey John, I am a Lymphoma survivor. I had a tumor directly on my knee to the point where I was unable to bend my knee comfortably when my tumor was at its peak. While this is not leukemia, this was a very direct attack on my knee joint. I had a very invasive knee surgery that ultimately ended up with my tibia bone needing a metal rod put in it in order to help me ever be able to walk again. In order to get the rod in, of course, my knee had to be dislocated and the rod shoved in that way. The rod covers from my knee to my ankle. While there isn't much info about ankle boy's cancer, I can say with certainty that any popping of the joint would not debilitate him like she implied. It would be a miracle if my joints STOPPED popping and my procedure was monstrous! Also popping of joints has something to do with cartilage, not just the bone (I THINK!)
He is actually popping his toe. His ankle movement is just him getting his toe back in place. But it really doesn't matter, he is definitely popping something. There are videos where he is outside and the same popping is heard but muffled as if he's on grass. I'm sorry you had such a dramatic and painful operation but I hope it's all behind you now. Those rods are no joke. And they seem to remind folks of the pain whenever they want. May you be free from any other calamity, so that you can resume your life. Peace ❤
@@graclee8873 , The vibrations come from the force of his bone. It's ok if you don't believe me. I didn't believe it myself at first. But then my granddaughter brought over a couple of friends to show me how it's done. I think we can agree that, Extraordinary claims should survive extraordinary test . So, my question to you is, if he is channelling spirits, through his toes or ankle, why then can he not agree to an impartial judge or more, in a location that replicates the flooring, in a location he does not control. He avoids this so far. 1 test and everyone would shut up. If no spirits show, we can reschedule. Why won't he agree to that?
As a media and behavioral science researcher and former journalism teacher, the mention of Media Literacy makes me SO happy that I clicked on ‘subscribe’ even though this is the first video on this channel I’ve watched and I have no idea who this dude is but respect for encouraging healthy skepticism and critical thinking! Instant subscribe.
The fact that they came up with the "energy vicinity" thing instead of laughing it off and saying the ghost didnt want to or that the ghost ran away bc it's shy. Sometimes the simple way is the best
I swear there is nothing cringier than watching one or more people lie in a situation where they really care about not getting caught, when we already know for sure they're lying. I find myself covering my face in embarassment everytime they're scrambling for a lie. They're so in over their heads.
The leukaemia thing has nothing to do with popping joints. Nothing at all. Satori is just detracting from this by trying to elicit sympathy about his condition that he conquered. Good for him but sad to see that someone who has a second chance at life use it to scam people out of money. Truly disgusting.
My biggest dream is someone spending like a year or two to create a complete fake persona with fake relatives, fake records, a fake ID and everything and then just go to the Conjuring House and film Cotori making complete fools of themselves contacting like 5 ghosts of dead people that don't even exist and they don't even realize it lmao
Just looked at their website and they charge $960 per night to visit and you have to provide your own equipment. I’m so disgusted that they are trying to monetize off of grieving people.
That actually isn't much for that high profile of a place. There are some venues around me that charge that much that most people probably have never heard about.
Dakota is a nice guy you can tell he doesn’t like conversations. It clear he doesn’t believe them he kinda plays dumb a lot during this whole thing. I personally like project fear and enjoy the way they investigate
Just watching them talk to thin air in order to scam ppl is making me cringe so hard- like, why is Satori talking to oxygen like it’s a friendly dog? 12:45
"Could you do it without shoes?" "I don't know if the spirits would want that" EVEN IF I wanted to believe them, that is such a mind-boggling answer. WHY?? They don't even do a weird mystical response like "oh being barefoot conects us too much with the earth and it interferes with the process, might even be dangerous". or anything like that. "THE SPIRITS MIGHT NOT LIKE SEEING SOME TOES". Honestly, the point of view of avoiding debunking is the only explanation I can make sense of as to why they wouldn't question the spirit's fear of FEET.
There are two things that I absolutely cannot tolerate: dishonesty and theft. If someone deceives me even once, that’s it - our relationship is irreparably damaged. The same goes for thieves. Once a person has lied or stolen, in my eyes, they will always be a liar or a thief.
I'd love to watch Jacqueline convince a judge that debunk videos are defamation. "Your honor, we can't prove it because the spirits don't wanna play right now, but I pinky swear that ghosts are real and we're not grifters"
I mean you shouldn't need much more proof than the first example in this video of Satori doing her letter trick. For the first two letters she goes incredibly slow because she already knows what the letters will be. Then once it comes to I, she's zooming along. At best, it's obvious confirmation bias. At worst, 100% fake.
I know, that's the first thing I noticed. Anyone paying any amount of attention to her cadence can tell she knows exactly which letter she'll be stopping at, she doesn't even try to hide when she's slowing down at the right letter to give the knocker a chance to catch up 😂
I commented about this exact thing on the first video, and it's somehow managed to remain one of the top comments there. The other comment I made there about Sam and Colby's follow-up being total BS invoking a false dichotomy got completely buried without being seen by anyone. (They seem obsessed with the idea that "if you don't have 100% definitive proof showing it being faked, then what we experienced must be 100% true", which is idiotic on its face, especially since we only have their own footage to go by.)
The paranormal community doesn't even seem to know what a skeptic is. A skeptic is just someone who waits until they have sufficient evidence to warrant belief, so of course the skeptic is the enemy of these clowns.
Man let shane show them what a real skeptic person is hahaha I bet if shane and ryan the who collab with Cotari, i can already imagine how much panic they will feel once shane ask them hahaha
I think everyone has some level of skepticism. Even people that fall for traps that this couple employs. I think it is all about proof standards. What level of proof do you need for something to feel real. It is the big reason I have never believed in psychic/mediums. Maybe there are people that can talk to the dead. But I highly doubt that I am going to meet one on some back-ally street that can read my fortune. (that doesn't implement some kind of background check or using cold reading techniques) I think some people that get into the paranormal do it because of some level of desperation. And that is what this couple feeds on. Desperate people that are not trying to figure out the authenticity of the encounter but what message they will get.
They have to build a strawman because they like the idea of "Defeating" the skeptic, but cant actually defeat any real skeptic. So they create a caricature and tear it down. A lot of people do this, and its especially prominent amongst religious circles of the "Athiest Skeptic" who "Changed their mind and found God". People love the feeling of defeating a percieved enemy.
So the thing is their rebuttals aren't rational arguments, they're emotional. Satori's not saying "Cody can't pop his joints, he had leukemia", she's saying "can you believe people are attacking this poor cancer survivor." This isn't an actual claim to fact check. The same goes for when Cody says they're being called aliens ("gosh aren't these people so absurd and crazy") or when Satori doesn't want to have her feet fetishized ("you're all a bunch of perverts too, aren't you"). Jacqueline's letter takes this maybe the furthest, where she talks to the audience as if they, personally, are being attacked. She spins it to them as if their identities and their experiences are being questioned when skeptics debunk Cody and Satori. I think it's also important to note the "professional" connections all of these people have. Obviously these channels don't want to alienate their audiences by being hardline skeptics or whatever. But they all (Sam and Colby, Project Fear, Cody & Satori) swim in the same paranormal reality entertainment pond, and I think they're also all trying desperately not to bury or alienate each other, like how Dakota is running so much mealy-mouthed interference. Cody & Satori have connections to TAPS and the Ghost Hunters TV show, as you've brought up before. You also pointed out how Dakota Laden got his start with Ghost Adventures. It's part gossip, part people airing sour grapes on social media, but Zak Bagans basically muscled out their Destination Fear show off of TV in the same way he got his original Ghost Adventures co-host Nick Groff sidelined and then blackballed entirely from the Travel Channel. To somebody like Dakota, this was probably an object lesson in the way the game operates between the various personalities, and it's why they're all acting more or less ambivalent about this even while their audiences cotton on to the kayfabe bubble popping for Cody and Satori. They all depend on each other to keep their careers going, and the professional networking to climb the ladder on the grift. You play nice with each other, so that way when you're scratching Satori and Cody's back and getting more people to go to the Conjuring House, they pay you back later on social media or with their "professional connections" to groups like TAPS with an established TV presence, or whatever other opportunities might crop up. You can also see the nudging in this direction in Jacqueline's letter. When she talks about how skeptics call what everyone is peddling into question so it's important for everybody to defend each other, you can read between the lines and see the warning about how they all know where each other's bodies are buried as far as what gets faked, what's pure entertainment, etc. It's the threat that they can close people out of that loop or counter-expose you if you don't play ball, the same way Zak played his "star power" at the Travel Channel.
They are both narcissists. Satori especially. Her overly sweet voice and how she to talks to everyone like toddlers (including her fake "spirits") is a manipulation tactic.
Just to add that people with leukemia or cancer, especially those treated and in remission (Cody's had bone marrow transplant), can 100% pop their joints. They even do it accidentally if it was bad enough. She also alluded that if he did so his joint wouldn't "go back in", which would mean she's saying you pop a joint by dislocating it. That's.... not how that works in the first place lol
It’s a bit of a coincidence that Cotori can only contact the souls of deceased family members…and not the souls of, say, close friends. Like what if I went to the Conjuring House and asked Cotori to contact the soul of one of my friends who died years ago?
"Talking to the spirits of friends is a lot more difficult than close family members because of the _energy vicinity_ of the presence of physical blood. We Need Blood."
Cody and Satory appeared on small channels before and thought Sam and Colby was one of them lol. They didn't realize how BIG Sam and Colby and their reach are. Now they're caught 😂😂😂😂
Yea right Sam and Colby did a conjuring video wayyyy before Cody and satori were there. The vid has 30 million views, doubt they thought S&C were small. If they did they’re just lying like everything else
Honestly lmao, in sam and colby's video when they tell them on camera "do you guys realize this is gonna change the world, millions of people will see you!" cody and satori look like they're shitting their pants 😂😂
Ok here’s how to solve this: Soneone needs to put forth fake info of their deceased loved ones-then go to the house and catch the couple giving out the fake answers as real ones. Caught in the act.
Won't work they are 💯 the real deal they knew nothing about me and nailed my reading and the knocks were coming from way behind me and Cody and Satori were in front of me
For the last 20 years I have been displaying a goblin skull to convince people that goblins exist. Recently, skeptics online have pointed out that my skull appears identical to a halloween prop. Now I ask you this: If I showed off my REAL goblin skull, don’t you think society would be plunged into chaos?
Dude I laughed so much at this comment....so thank you, needed a good laugh after a shitty day...and I totally agree!! Someone should book a tour using a wildly ridiculous made up name...that would be epic 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Satori: ...M? Mary? *Codyknocks Satori:... L? loves? *Codyknocks Satori:.. D? D**k? *Codyknocks Satori: Mary loves D**k? *Codyknocks frantically google if you dont get it lol
It would be like in the other debunk this channel did, when they couldn't find someone's name in any records, so they skipped her and focused on the other people. If you used a fake name that they couldn't find online, they'd make sure other people were present and would focus on them instead of you.
Lying to grieving family members to make money is evil. It's disgusting. And I would love the chance to say it to their face. I don't get why everyone is afraid to call out evil.
The fact that Sam and Cody called over all these other paranormal investigators to watch that video and not a single one of them were skeptical or questioned it, but all immediately made reservations at the conjuring house should tell everyone what scam artist all of these paranormal investigators are. If you’re a serious paranormal investigator and you’re not just doing this too, get clicks and likes and make money which is fine. Go ahead and do that but stop calling yourselves, paranormal investigators and call yourselves entertainment, but if you are calling yourself, a paranormal investigator every single thing that happens should be looked at with skepticism. You should assume it’s not paranormal and try to prove that it is not paranormal. Once you’ve exhausted all other options then you start looking into could this be paranormal?
Do you think John would ever want to join Watcher for like an episode? I think it’d be hilarious getting John and Shane debunking all of Ryan’s freak outs! But super stoked for a new video! These have definitely been a favorite!
@@annuncreates5962 Ryan would be over it and it would just be John and Shane demanding demons to get them. Just them insulting spirits and telling them to turn on the flashlight 😂
I think even amongst the many scammers I witnessed, that is low. The reason they’re sinking this low is because they’re trying desperately to keep the facade. Reminds me of “Nightmare Alley” from Guillermo Del Toro.
When i saw that i was livid. So vile. If it was me and they did that about my grandma who lost her memory due to brain cancer id slap both of them and leave. It is so fucking cruel cause watching a family member deteriorate like that is heart wrenching. To have someone use that in their for profit scam would be heartbreaking
It's nothing new. That has been going on for centuries. Not Google, of course, but other ways of finding out information about a person. I'm old, so I didn't see internet until I was in college. Before internet, the con artists used the local library or a local public records office to find the information.
As a father who had a son with acute lymphoblastic leukemia, joint popping, was never brought up before, during, or after his treatment. (He had his last dose of chemo about a year ago, and is in complete remission by the way) the only thing they told us to be wary of were major cuts, because of his low platelet levels, he was prone to heavy bleeding while on chemo
Lmao can you imagine,a ghost,been dead for 100 years desperately trying to reach out to a living, there come two people that can see her, the ghost refuses because they aren't wearing shoes !
I cannot get over the absolute audacity of Jacqueline to say that monetizing videos that question the validity of Cotori's methods are slanderous and outright lies that "hurt" them, after Cotori LOOKS UP A VISITOR'S DEAD RELATIVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR GRIEF AND PREY UPON IT. It's wild to me. So it's okay to monetize someone's grief, but not for someone else to monetize a video calling them out on it??? Paranormal aside, in any situation this is just grade-A sleaziness. Absolutely disgusting. Great video as always, John! Excited to see what you do next.
only thing i could say about jacqueline is idk maybe she actually believes cotori, like not that shes in on it or anything but she is older, maybe she actually does buy it and shes obviously payed no real attention to any of the debunking videos cause if she was forced to watch them, maybe she would question them herself?
I went to have a look at that angry rant that Jacqueline posted on the Facebook page, but it looks like it was deleted. What I did find, however, was that apparently she's experiencing a massive mental break and refuses to pay any of her employees, while posing conspiracy theories now. So that's... fun.
34:10 "having proof would cause chaos" So... they make shows for the specific purpose of showing people that these things are real, they do all kinds of experiments to convince the audience that it is real, but when the audience asks a critical question suddenly doing *that* experiment is dangerous because it would prove that it's real?
I wonder what the Fox Sisters would think if they knew that over 200 years later people were still using their methods and others were still falling for them. Maybe get Cody and Satori to ask them?
I can make that same ankle pop sound whenever I want. I knew how to do it since I was about 6 years old. My foot moves just like his when I do it, too. I never thought of using it to scam people. I'm not clever enough, I guess.
So when these two are totally backed in a corner their go to is "well have to see if the spirit's will wanna do it". If someone can't see through this, idk what to say
Right?? When they were asked to take of their shoes....”oh the spirits are not comfortable with that” WHAT?!!!! How are ppl ok with that answer?? 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
"never doubt or question any aspect of this belief system" and "if you call out bad behavior of one community member, you're an enemy of the entire community" is cult shit frfr
As someone who just last year lost her grandma to Alzheimers, I really do hope she has her memory back in the afterlife. But those two playing with people like they do, and simply telling Dakota what he wanted to hear.. ugh. Disgusting. Really despicable.
Honestly, things wouldn't be as bad if Cody and Satori weren't drawing on individual guests' personal lives. It's one thing to have a 'resident ghost' and sell the experience of a haunted place like many places do. However, to cross the boundary into mediumship/clairvoyance is undeniably taking advantage of the vulnerable and desperate, as proven by several unfortunate commentors here. I can tolerate atmosphere and suspending disbelief of the supernatural for 'fun', but the latter is disgusting.
Dakota’s attitude in their interview with Cody & Satori and the things Sam & Colby said on the Iced Coffee Hour podcast caused me to unfollow both on TH-cam and social media. I know one person doesn’t make a difference, but I just can’t believe how they’re still protecting them. They don’t have to throw anyone under the bus, they can respectfully say that they do believe in their ability but understand why others don’t and they can’t explain why Cody and Satori aren’t willing to prove it, but they still believe in it.
I did the same thing. I was disgusted by some responses after all of the evidence against them has come out. No backbone on these people. Really upsetting.
It's like they're going against their whole YT channel's objective. "To prove ghost is real with evidences" And then they proceed to protect the scammers...
i believe a big reason for this is because they can and would most definitely try to sue them, i think its mostly to just avoid conflict, but also they are victims of cody and satori’s manipulation
I went on a tour at the conjuring house in late 2022 with my family (I live in RI). We had Cody and Satori as our tour guides. When we were in the basement we all heard a knocking sound and Cody instantly reacted, asking if maybe another guest for the tour had arrived. He went upstairs for a brief time and then came back stating nobody was at the front door. I now I have a different perspective on the “knocking” sound we heard.
during these debunking videos i just keep wanting to go there because i would have to give them my legal name and they would find my dad’s obituary. it’s literally so positive and makes him seem like he was a great person and father. the thing is though, he was the worst person i’ve ever met and probably will ever meet. he abused me verbally, physically, emotionally, mentally, and sexually. but obviously none of that was mentioned at all. it would be so funny watching them portray him in a positive way and having him give me a sweet message while knowing that he was a monster. i wonder how they’d try and get out of that one lmao
@@josselinsalgado2951 thank you, i was honestly so relieved when i found out that he died because i was finally free. it’s been difficult though because my family doesn’t believe me and they talk so highly of him, most of them don’t even talk to me anymore. but i have really amazing friends who help, love, and support me. plus at the end of the day, they’re terrible people who are taking the side of an even worse dead person while i’m healing and making memories with the best people i’ve ever met. so i take that as a win lol
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I’m actually not tired of hearing about Cody and Satori. They want ppl to stop talking about them, because as soon as that happens it’s going to be swept under the rug and they’ll be able to continue scamming people in peace. I want ppl to keep on them.
Exactly!!! I will only ever NOT want to talk about them is when they actually admit the truth, that they have been faking and scamming, only then can we rest...they are purposely staying out of the lime light because they think “oh give it time and it will pass” this is one instance I will never get sick and tired of hearing about them, they need to confess...period...
Agreed.
True.
👍 You said it so hundreds of us don’t have to. 👍
This exactly, I'll never get sick of it.
Step one: Fake an obituary / upload fake photos
Step two: Invite those fools to do a reading
Step three: Play along
Step four: Confront them
Best one is to have the 'dead person' to walk into the house while they are doing a reading about fake dead person 😂😂
@@TheGoodSamaritan8557 Kinda like that reporter that gave a psychic an old pic (of the reporter herself) telling her it was of a "kidnapped" girl & the psychic said the girl was dead & the reporter is all "you sure about that?" 😂🤣
@@cissyiniguez is there video of this??? If so, please, please, please drop the link, or guide me to where I can find it, please! 🙏🏻 Cause that shit's funny as hell!
Nah bro the spirits could read thoughts and gave them the names from the fake obituaries. They will always have an excuse and the idiots will always believe it.
I volunteer as tribute
I don't understand how anyone could convince a kid that his dead grandma is contacting him, bringing him to his knees and sobbing, and not feel like a terrible person.
Narcissists or sociopaths
It’s all an act. Sam isn’t a real “ghost hunter”, he doesn’t really believe any of this. It’s all for clicks, views, money and girls
@@kingrama2727 if thats the case then damn, he deserves an oscar for his performamce wow. hes better than most A-list actors ive seen.
@@TheeEnglishLesbian just listen to their interviews. They’re not serious, they found a niche just like the crayola kids
Well first of all, Sam isn't a "kid", he's almost 30. Second of all, Cody and Satori are definitely disgusting AF for doing this to people.
Ankle Boy and Alphabet Girl.
I'm crying 😂
I was watching with my husband and had to pause it after that line so that we could recover 🤣
I did too and came straight to the comments to let John know his comedic sarcasm is appreciated 🤣
😂😂😂
The MCU is really reaching for the more obscure heroes in this Phase...
I said the exact same thing😂😂😂
Next time my boss asks me to do something, im using “it’s not in my energy vicinity”
😂
Seriously laughed out loud at this
Too funny lol
Boss: "Well then, maybe you're no longer in my employment vicinity."
You win best comment lmao
Literally every time their little circular red audio visualizer showed up in the corner, I looked in the circle like “what am I supposed to see here?” I’m so red arrow/circle-pilled. Thanks, TH-cam.
Lol SAME im like wtF am i looking for! 😂
I was also super confused. Trained like a circus animal
I’m glad I wasn’t alone here. 😂😂😂
Same ,damn it 😂
Even though I already did it previously, I glanced over and later realized “oh audio”. Stop drawing my attention to nothing.
I'd like you to know that my mother saw the Sam and Colby video. She was going to book a very expensive stay for the family so we could speak to my brother who passed away.
We don't have much money, and my parents were desperate to speak with him. These people would have taken every dime from my mother.
I showed her your first video, and to my surprise, she actually believed you. Thank you for your work and for getting this trip out of her head.
holy shit. using grief and loss of a loved one for monetary gain ESPECIALLY from vulnerable people is so sick.
I'm so sorry to hear that, I'm really glad that John was able to help. I hope that you can all find some peace
Oh my god... I'm so sorry to hear that
Yeah, this stuff is EXACTLY why these people aren't a joke, they are leeches that swoop in on grieving people because they want their money. I'm glad your parents weren't another one of their victims.
When people say these two are aren't scammers, they forget that it isn't just rich TH-camrs who give them their money. It's literally vulnerable people desperate to communicate with their loved ones, and willing to pay any price. It's disgusting. So glad your mom listened
Imagine your energy vicinity not even reaching upstairs. I would be so embarrassed if my energy vicinity were that small.
Lmfao
I would leave the "profession" lmao
My energy vicinity could beat up Cody's energy vicinity.
😂🤣🤣 LOLLL
It's not about the size of the energy vicinity, it's how you use it, c'mon now
Watching these scammers in real time struggle is SEVERELY giving me second-hand embarrassment
I couldn't do it. I'd just run away lol.
Fr 😭 I’d just start acting like I was possessed, exorcist style
imagine calling yourself an "investigator" and then saying _we had no reason to be skeptical_ ...
IKR, the irony is delicious! 😆👌
Seriously, and especially the post stating “we are not in the business of proving or disproving anything in the paranormal.”
Like, okay then… why are you here and what is your goal??
That's one of the reasons I really like Ryan and Shane's duo when they do paranormal investigations. Ryan is a full on believer in the paranormal and usually takes the whole investigation more seriously than Shane, which is very true when they do their solo tours near the end of each episode.
While Shane is the complete opposite of Ryan. He's a skeptic and taunts the ghost and/or ghouls anytime he gets since he doesn't think they can do anything to him. On his solo tours, he'll just fuck around with objects at the location while constantly yelling at the spirits to do stuff like throw him down the stairs, throw something at him, grab him, etc. There are rare times where Shane has been a believer but it's really rare.
@@nevaeh9125agreed although I wouldn’t say Shane was a believer it was more something strange would happen that nobody could explain you can see him being more rational in the debrief
Omg! That has what I have been saying!!!
Its funny to me that the owner of the Conjuring House is accusing others of being opportunists and monetizing the house. Like bitch what?
Well yeah. She wants to be the only one doing that!
people almost always accuse others of what they themselves do knowingly wrong, which is why they think others do too that's how shitty people justify their behavior
A: "They don't take money for their method."
B: "Haters: You are not our market."
These people are as terrible liars as they're terrible actors.
Classic turn it around and point fingers to deflect. John (and his ilk) isn't the same, even if he is profiting, because he's trying to pull the wool off of peoples' eyes, rather than over them, like frauds do. He's advocating for using your own brain to think about things, and they're shutting that down. Which people would see if they looked between the lines, but ofc, these people always have some sort of excuse to keep others on the hook anyway.
The owner CLEARLY has a motive in all of this. They bought the house. They didn't plan on living there. Oh, sorry, I meant they did move in, but they "can't live there year-round because the energy is too powerful." So they let others take residence, play, and tour instead. Hmm...
"Rules for thee but not for me!"
Hi, just chiming in, as a medical student, on the question about Leukemia making it impossible to "crack" one's joints. Yeah, that's not a thing. The snapping sound doesn't even come from the bones but from the synovial fluid that helps the bone ends move without grinding together.
Is it actually bad to pop joints like this overall for your health or "cracking knuckles" in general? I hear several conflicting answers on that question.
@generalgreevus8773 not a medical student but I've researched into the topic for school and it can lead to reduced grip strength and swelling but if I remember correctly the studies were done with older individuals, a lot who already had preexisting bone issues such as arthritis. So in conclusion you're probably fine to do it just do it correctly and don't dislocate anything
@@Pxffle yay
@@generalgreevus8773 Nursing student here, from what I can remember, synovial fluid is basically lubricant between the articular cartilage on the ends of each bone. The popping comes from a nitrogen bubble bursting in the synovial fluid. It’s pretty controversial that popping your joints wears down the articular cartilage, as long as you’re not excessively cracking/popping it or forcing it, it’s fine.
@@sn1psss It feels good like scratching the inside of my ears with a q-tip
"What kind of cigar?" such a fucking homerun of a question.
If I was emotionally manipulated into hearing some people try to scam me by pretending to talk to Ghosts, then fucking brought my dead relative into their scam - then bring me that close to tears, just for rationality to grasp me by the neck and make me ask: "What kind of cigar?"
AND THEY CAN'T ANSWER. That's such a fucking banger of a "Oh, these fucks."
Yeah their question of "what does that mean" is so weird, because following the logic, they're not the ones answering. They could never have even heard of a cigar before and the ghost would answer anyway, right?
@@Dradeeus Exactly, it's such a fucking "one hit kill"-question.
Unless they stated specifically what kind of cigar, he'd not be convinced - and there's no way in hell they'd be able to guess that.
I'm almost convinced they did that to make them look stupid.
it really is _such_ a good one to ask about specifics like that. i know if someone ever tried to pull this disgusting BS on me id get real specific, cause theres no way someones gonna pull out my dead loved ones and convince me easily that its real, especially at some random house like that? that part is what gets me, its always that ghosts only stick around places of importance, or the places they died... why the conjuring house? yeesh.
@@princembat I didn't even think about that.
But if Ghosts are real and I was a Ghost, I'd be insanely fucking specific injokes just so I could convince as many of my friends and shit as possible.
There's just no way in hell that a Ghost that could transfer messages would say shit like: "Hello! I'm good! Heaven is real! It's real nice here! Smoke a cigar for me! gragreagbhtr, haha, my boy will understand! Farewell now, I know we didn't talk a lot but I just don't have the fucking time. Remember that life is about love!"
I'd be like: ", It's me, Zyrodil. Pucklahontas. Fingus. Insta-boyl. Svante. " If my friends heard a stranger they paid to make contact with me in the afterlife say these things, they'd be fucking convinced it was me in a fucking heartbeat. If they went into specifics, I'd be able to break down and go into detail about so many fucking injokes that are impossible to research because they are documented offline. This isn't even fucking unique to me, pretty much everyone has something like this.
My fiancé passed away a few days ago, and seeing people exploit other peoples grief for profit like that, giving them false hope and false information really hits home and makes me absolutely disgusted.
It's awful what people will do for money and fame.
I'm sorry for your loss 💛
im sorry for your loss, grieving sucks ass but you got this
@@pinsandneedles3 It is. Thank you.
I am so sorry for your loss.
@@tayshondeeznuts1921 It absolutely does, it's been the most difficult time I've ever experienced. Thank you. 🩷
The swedish ghost investigators LaxTon recently went to the conjuring house, and “for some reason” Cody and Satori wasn’t able to participate in their video, since they couldn’t find/it is hard to find info about them since they’re from Sweden.
i mean, i dont think it would be that hard. they could very easily use a vpn and either google translate, or an actual translator to help understand more specific stories to include
@@TheeEnglishLesbian If the death documents are kept in a government site they may need a national document to access it, where I live you would need the equivalent of a social security number, maybe it's the same in Sweden
I think it may be even more fundamental than that. It was the language barrier.
Codi and Satori (likely) don't speak Swedish. I know most of the population speaks fluent English. However, asking questions in Swedish would be a good way to completely expose the ruse. If they were really talking to a dead relative, it shouldn't matter that the "mediums" understand the language or not. Let them "establish contact" in English then switch languages. Although, it might be fun to watch them attempt to wing-it.
@@KirstenMarie_MS3 That's crazy talk. Everyone knows that ghosts have to be certified to be completely fluent in English and sign a Ghost Contract saying that they will only ever communicate in perfect, modern English.
That, and the fact that they are brothers make it very hard to find different loved ones to "talk" to
"I don't want people looking at my feet" is an interesting reason why you can't demonstrate the afterlife
While sharing pics of your feet on instagram at the same time 😂 But no, we all know that foot fetish people only watch paranormal videos hunting for feet 😂
They've done a 360 video with no shoes. They are the real deal
@DR.DisInfect they deleted it. It was done by her dad, right foot still hidden, in an area they can completely control. Meaning someone downstairs could use a broom to the ceiling, or be in the room and knock. Red flags all over. Should be done in an outside place by someone in it for the science. But even then, they could add knocking in post. Everything about them is a red flag. Just as bad as those itc channels. Playing with people's emotions and getting paid for it is illegal for 'psychics' when they're lying. They are destroying their reputation and her dad's. The longer the lie the worse it'll be and the harder to apologize. So many people could probably sue them over this. Jason should've been the dad who puts his foot down and tells them to fess up, not join the mockery. Any believer should be feeling betrayed by this, or at least upset. And that's all I'm going to comment on the matter.
@@DR.DisInfect Where? What is the video called?
If your whole "gift" is depending on it and you really want to prove you're innocent you'd happily show it.
They are real life Scooby-Doo villains
Well said ❤
If TH-cam doesn’t create a anime parody of the Scooby gang meeting and defeating this villanous duo, complete with unmasking I would be highly disappointed.
And they would have gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for this meddling kid.
They look like themtoo
I'm confused when John says that everyone is tired of Cody and Satori, because I for one am having a great time listening to John debunk them again.
Yeah, this is the funnest thing in paranormal in forever. Keeping the pressure on frauds is my new hobby.
Agree. F them
I'm tired of them taking advantage of vulnerable, grieving people and making money off it. I'm not tired of watching them repeatedly being ripped another new asshole
Right who doesn't enjoy frauds being exposed.
I don’t understand why their whole routine includes the persons relatives to begin with tbh, if I go to the conjuring house I would rather hear about the scary spirits there rather than bringing up my dead loved ones that have no business manifesting in that place. Really nice that the people form the channel keep calling them up for the cold reading, I don’t understand why he doesn’t call them out in the later added on sections.
Very good point. At this point I feel like they killed what the conjuring house was in the first place.
Exactly!!! I’ve asked that question sooooo many times!! Why is “my dead grandmother” manifesting in the Conjuring House??? It really makes no sense?! Every location those 2 scammers go to, they never “communicate” with the spirits allegedly haunting the location, it’s always whoever they’re with grandpa or grandma ...it makes no sense...and no one ever questions that...beyond ridiculous
Well, if it didn't sell, they wouldn't be doing it. CH clearly does enough research to know what brings in guests, and if people are coming specifically for C&S, they know what side their bread is buttered on.
The simple explanation is probably because they want the whole experience to be about them. Psychics, even particularly bad ones like these two, tend to be pretty narcissistic people. You kind of have to be to take advantage of people's grief for a living.
I wouldn't even mind them so much if they were having some random spooky fun with a made-up ghost (not based on anyone real who has died). Supposedly communicating with people's real deceased relatives is extra gross. I don't even really like it when psychics do that with 100-year-old tragedies, but to do it specifically to and with the people who are coming in and paying is nasty. There is a reason spiritualism/séances/psychics took off post-WWI. They were exploiting grieving people (mostly women -- mothers, wives, sisters).
They, Cody and Satori clearly went online and saw a photo of Dakota smoking a cigar with his grandfather on Facebook. . His grandfather has since passed away - C and S claimed they spoke to his grandfather and he was smoking a cigar. Dakota wasn’t having it and asked for the brand of cigar…..he even said if that’s my ‘pops’ he will know exactly what brand of cigar he’s smoking, as clearly they had a favourite cigar. C & S didn’t even address the question. That’s the sort of faking that’s disgusting to pull on people and I’m surprised Dakota didn’t call them out on it
I think that was his way. Kinda like If You Know You Know kinda deal.
Because like others have mentioned being really skeptical can be a kiss of death in their field.
Dakota is a spineless child. Peeing his pants thinking of getting less views or money
He’d rather have his dead grandfather puppeted around by two scam artists then not believe in the doctrine everyone else around him does
I hope he feels ashamed and embarrassed, if I were his family I’d refuse to associate with him
Dakota’s career relies on these fake claims. Cotori are a fantastic pull for them. Project Fear claimed to have no knowledge on them and that there was no way for them to know they were frauds. Later in the damn video he said himself that they saw the footage.
I think it's because of who her father is. ZB made Dakota's life hell. Hawes could too.
He didn't "call them out on it" because he is in on it. As is the rest of the jokers in that room. Everyone is there to make a buck and gain notoriety. Every person there is a charlatan. The end.
I just checked their website and the social media contract that you HAVE to sign as an influencer says you need to send them your content for approval before you post it. That's probably part of the reason why they're all so neutral.
Would be funny if that was the reason why they put conflicting clips in the video too. Like they were hoping Cotori wouldn't notice and it worked.
I was also convinced that they behaved naive and neutral on purpose, while questioning and compiling contradicting material in their videos so that the lie is obvious for the viewers. If they had accused Cotory head on, the pair would just shut down the production and refuse to work with them.
I wonder how many times they had to re-edit their vids before it was deemed 'acceptable' ...
this needs more likes!
They could just do a follow up video discussing it after this one since the content wouldn’t include footage from their visit
Appreciate the shout out 🙌
Love that for you!
I was so excited when he mentioned you! Well deserved!!
Keep up the great videos mythos
You seriously deserve it Mythos! You doing such a great job to open the eyes of people for fraudsters like these two! They might scream and shout loudly at you about being a nonbeliever, but you will always have our support ♥️
deserved!
When he pulled up Satori's Instagram I was crying😂 Her "argument" got destroyed into oblivion
"It's up to the spirits" is gonna be my motto from now on
What a perfect idea!
LOLLL perfect for some merch! Would love to se this on a t-short!! 😂🤣😂🤣
*t-shirt....not t-short...oops...although t-short does sound interesting 🤔🤔😂🤣😂
Should I do laundry today? Hmm.. up to the spirits *takes a nap instead*
@@BalBhatti-ze3mmWatch out, the conjuring house lady might sue you for being an opportunist 😂
"My memory is back" is disguuusssting. The smallest part of me wants it to be real just to know they aren't as vile of people as that would mean, but I know that's not the case. Just Deplorable
especially since he had alzheimer i doubt he would remeber 😭
people grifting off of someone's pain or mourning makes me so angry. definitely the slimiest kind of shit these paranormal /experts/ do.
Manipulating vulnerable people to make a buck makes my blood boil and my stomach churn. Analyze, take apart, test the world around you, your human brain is what keeps you safe and alive on planet Earth ❤
Does no one notice that the knocking sounds the same no matter what surface they are on? Pavement, concrete, wood, grass all sound the same. Like a bone pop.
you’re so right omg
@@str4wb3rryk3nn4you can’t crack your joints with minimal movement lol
I noticed, when Sam and Colby took Cody and Satori outside on the GRAVEL mind you, and I was expecting to hear the footsteps on the gravel but no it's the same solid sound.
I was screaming with laughter when he said "We have no reason to be skeptical"
When people claim they can talk to ghosts, you have *every* reason to be skeptical!
Right? You are saying they have evidence of life after death?? Hell yeah I got questions!
Dude, spirits and the afterlife are definitely real. You just haven't had your moment yet. Please stop trying to make it seem like anyone who believes is crazy. It's annoying.
@ronnaargall9975 and what exactly makes you think they're "definitely real"?
@@ronnaargall9975 I have had my moments, it took me a year to figure out these wailing noises in my house and doors slamming shut constantly was just a gap underneath my back door letting air in. I have had also seen ghosts while in my bed, which was just sleep paralysis. The tv in my house would very rarely turn on with the volume at full blast, only to learn that's what my old tv did whenever it did an update which was set to do at anytime even when off in the settings.
Yea no, you are crazy.
@@SwaggMessiah69 wtf dude? You are very simple minded. I will pray for you
So, not about Leukemia, but I have several degenerative diseases and the reason Satori cited wasn't just the cancer, but the deterioration of the joints/bones. That said... her claims are 100% bullshit. Having deteriorating joints makes it SO MUCH MORE EASIER to pop than if they were healthy. It's like saying... "I can't go ice skating because I have blades for feet"... uh... isn't that ideal? That makes it EASIER to ice skate. Or, "I can't bake this cake because I have all the ingredients and then some". It's nonsensical. And I despise the fact that they brought out the cancer card because now people are going to be more hesitant to call it out. I know, because I do the same. Sometimes when I want some busybody to leave me alone, I bring up one of my serious conditions and it makes it awkward enough that they leave - which is the goal. That's what Satori is doing. Shame on them.
I basically made a medical dissertation comment of my own along these same lines, but I'll leave most of it out and only re-comment a main part. Satori said if he popped his ankle he wouldn't be able to get it back in, because cancer.
That's not even how popping a point works in the first place. So not only is her pseudo-medical reasoning completely wrong, she's completely unaware of how joints (primarily synovial joints, the ankle being a hinge synovial joint) even pop in the first place. She's talking about a dislocation. Plus, he's has a transplant and all that. The only reason Leukemia would have affect on him popping his joints would be prior to being treated, because of the bone swelling and nerve pressure which would cause pain _to_ pop a joint -- but not keep someone from being able to do so in the first place.
Unlucky for them I'm not only a skeptic, I'm also a cynic -asshole- and have no problem pointing out the bullshit in someone's use of "but my condition". I'll feel sorry that someone had to deal with it, but it will not keep me from calling a spade a spade. Just a tinge of the 'tism, know what I mean?
Reminds me of when Prince Andrew said he can't sweat.
So the leukemia is his origin story...
@@Fluffy6555 i mean i cant speak for prince Andrew but my mom could not sweat for like the first 15 years of my life, she was in a really bad car crash and her body just would not sweat(was pretty debilitating she had to relearn how to speak, and write as well as a lot of motor function loss), but for us it basically meat if the temp hit about 70 we were basically on a strict timer to get her somewhere cool before she fainted and could possible have died from to much even mild heat exposure.
But i want to say it was in like 2015 or somewhere in that ball park she was able to get electro therapy that sorted out the sweating issue, so while it is possible that he could not sweat, i doubt with his money it was not fixable.
Absolutely, as my medical condition worsens my joints have gotten obnoxiously loud and I can control the pops by doing certain movements that I know are a guarantee!
The problem with Catori complaining about people trying to 'debunk' them, is that in order to 'disprove' something, it has to have been proven in the first place. Ghosts, demons, spirits etc, there is no proof, no evidence for these things... at all. None one little shred. So, it's not on 'haters' (aka logical people) to debunk them, it's on people like Cody and Satori to prove they aren't bullshitting (which they are). If you proved it to people, I mean some black and white scientific evidence that these things exist, pretty sure they'd accept it.
This exactly. I believe John mentioned the “burden of proof” in one of his recent debunking videos and it still holds up here; the so-called “experts” here should be responsible for proving their statements, not us.
My aunt survived leukemia twice and her knees pop so loudly we thought someone was knocking on the front door last Christmas, so in my bias case study with only one sample, joints still pop, might even pop better, theory pending larger case study.
was just going to comment something similar. My best friend had leukemia and her joints would pop so so loud. And would always go back into place, so, i’m not entirely sure what Satori meant when she said it wouldn’t go back?
@@Sarah_Jeann I'm pretty sure she just has a severe lack of understanding of... materials in general. Like she doesn't know what bones are or what cancer is. But she just hail mary'ed that as an explanation on the spot.
I just posted a long comment about this exact thing myself. To sum it up joint popping is and effect of putting pressure on a joint causing gas to escape. It's easily repeatable and since Leukemia goes after bones after treatment the bones will be a bit thinner -- meaning it would be _easier_ to manipulate a joint to cause gas to move around the synovial joint (just a lubricated membrane covered joint, like your knee or.... 😮 ankle) in turn causing the popping. Thinning of the bones could also make the joint more "cavernous", which would mean a larger area of force compressing out a bit more encapsulated gas making a louder popping/cracking sound.
Satori even said "if he popped his joint he wouldn't be able to get it back in because Leukemia". You don't dislocate a joint and reset it to pop in the first place, so that claim makes no sense. I, for one, can open my hands up wide and close them in a fist and all my knuckles will pop, which I can repeatedly do. It only causes irritation or pain if I do it back-to-back 5+ times within a couple of seconds. With the span that Cody does it -ironically my name is also Cody- there would be little to no joint inflammation.
@@ahall9839 Or how a joint even pops, she thinks it pops out and pops back in. I promise he's not doing _that_ , but at the same time literally no one (but her, I guess) is claiming that's how he's doing it.
@@Kaspar.C0LDbiochemist with fancy letters after my name here, you hit the nail on the head hahaha
I remember you mentioning years ago that you were disappointed that a lot of people misunderstood your “think critically” catchphrase at the end of your gaming videos. Hearing you use it at the end of this one just felt so perfect. Really loving the main channel content (and the extra gaming stuff too)!
Thank you! Yes, this is how I always meant it, and it frustrated me to hear people interpet it as "be a dick and insult people"
@@JohnWolfe I honestly don't understand how people could misunderstand it like that when critical thinking has always been a thing. It doesn't just count for debunking, it also counts for media analysis and the like. I never really thought much about it.
@@magnus1383 I grew up in an extremely religious household, where any kind of doubt or skepticism was perceived as being "arrogant" or insulting or dickish. It's the whole doubting Thomas thing mentioned in this video - anyone that questions an authority is a threat, so make them out to be bad. It filters through all of society: note the common trope of smart or skeptical people in sitcoms and dramas being smart asses or uptight.
@@JohnWolfe I love the catch phase, ''Think critically'' I didn't know what is the meaning of this word is, But In my mind I always thought Think critically means to be careful or to think carefully about stuff, Because of the horror games you play and you were not jump scared easily and was always careful! Today I googled critical meaning and word definition is different from what I though it is. Oh! forgot to say, The amount of respect I have for you is immeasurable C:
I would absolutely call the bluff of the "slander" and threat of a lawsuit by straight up saying, 'Okay, take me to court.'
The irony of Jacqueline slating skeptics for 'telling outright lies to hurt Cody & Satori' while they're bare-faced lying to potentially emotionally vulnerable people about their dead relatives...
Yeah but how else are they gonna get that sweet sweet cash from their guests and overly hyped up paranormal youtubers? 🤫
And they know, it’s not like they believe this shit
Actual non humans
I will always think these "mediums" and "psychics" are predatory and gross. It's wrong to prey on people's desire to connect with loved ones that have passed.
Real psychics and mediums have strong ethics to follow in regard to what they do. They can't give medical advice, they don't share messages with people who don't desire to hear them, they don't tell you when you are going to die, etc. Most people seek out mediums for closure and people often find a lot of relief after receiving it and can "move on" with their lives afterwards. What these two are doing at the Conjuring House is just incredibly unfortunate and deceitful.
@@destineeamber7577 "Real psychics and mediums" don't exist. They are all just magicians pulling tricks on people. Even in the odd case that their manipulation makes someone feel better, I'd recommend a therapist over an illusionist for that, thanks.
@@destineeamber7577”real mediums and psychics” is where you lost me 😑
@destineamber7577 you are a funny one 😂
honestly, whoever is thick enough to fall for nonsense like this, psychics, fortune tellers and whatnot absolutly deserves it. hopefully it is a hard learning experience for them.
especially when all those people have to do...is just talk to their loved ones, they don't need anybody else.
in the grand scheme of things, this is such a good commentary and critique of how paranormal youtubers direct their presentations to subliminally influence people into believing things are true while also absolving themselves of any responsibility for subliminally implanting any sort of belief. this revelation is going to be real mental gymnastics for their fans to grasp because they're already so wrapped around the fingers of these paranormal youtubers. you really did a great job, john, cross-referencing past content and revealing the cracks. awesome!
"It would all pale in comparison to seeing Ankle Boy and Alphabet Girl over here talk to dead people without their shoes on." 33:00 is such a KILLER line
the overuse of "true" clip of Sam is so damn funny LMAO
true
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TRUEW
true 🤯
😂😂😂
Imagine Danny Gonzalez and John do an overnight stay at the conjuring house! Full comedy lmao
That would be a hilarious collab 😂
Let’s get John to see this
This is the most random collab ever. And it would be absolutely fire.
That would be so funn omgs I hope he sees this
ANKLE BOY AND ALPHABET GIRL im crying lmao
I know. What a clown show😂
it is so, so predatory when people like this do this and take advantage of people's grief. It just feels so fucking gross.
I agree,so sad 😢
The worst part is the people who believe it and defend it, because they desperately want it to be true. They wsnt their dead relatives to still be with them. However, we must remember to focus our anger at these psychics who abuse them.
It’s gross when people like this guy spread a bunch of bullshit because they can’t accept all the proof that has already been given! He’s just wanting popularity by talking about them. I don’t know who this guy even is! It just popped up in my feed.
@@savvyshopperdelivers there. Is no proof. That’s the thing dude. None of it is actual real, undisputed proof
@@pancakes8670 Yep. I have a friend who lost his mother a few years back and really got into all that ghost shit as a way to cope, he goes along to ghost hunts organised by a group run by friends of his...and they charge him full price to go on these things knowing full-well that this stuff is copium for him.
"Energy vicinity" - What a term. That is coming from the lady who said she has no idea how their power even works in the first place.
This whole Cotori incident is flipping hilarious! Can't wait to see what else is exposed of them, or better yet, more videos of them trying to save face.
Great job Mr. Wolfe!
Dakota asking "What brand of cigar"...he HAD to have known. There's no way he didn't ask that as a gotcha question. I'm guessing he just doesn't want to burn bridges in the paranormal community or gain a reputation as a skeptic.
I think that is 100% it, people forget that she is the daughter of one of the main dudes from Ghost Hunters and they seem to be pretty big in the community so he probably wanted to expose them but knew if he did he would not get to work with people he probably has wanted to for years
Definitely. There going to help make it exceedingly blatant, but not outright call them out. Someone else needs to do that
I think is a lot of being in good with everyone yk
Jason Hawes is sticking up for his kid even though he has to know that she and Cody are faking it all.
And since he's an OG, everyone has to be polite and not out his kid entirely, or he might get them blacklisted within the paranormal community.
It's one thing to be a parent and support your child in their endeavors, but you shouldn't support them when they are being horrible liars and their lies exploit the grief of others and could have very real consequences.
@@carolusrex5213 True it didn't occur to me that if any one of these people lean towards skepticism then they could be permanently ostracised by the paranormal community, just as the TCH owner letter affirms that would happen, and there goes all their income revenue
"John Wolfe Debunks Ghosts and Promotes Media Literacy" is my favorite series on TH-cam right now. And that's 100% *TRUE*
it's literally why I even know who he is right now. please more!!
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The second they said no to not wearing shoes, I would’ve not believed another word.
I think it is important to note that TH-camrs, bloggers, ghost hunters, etc sign a contract when they visit the conjuring house.
The owner has to be allowed to review whatever you are planning on posting and reserve the right to refuse to allow you to post it.
Basically, if the owner thinks you are casting them in anything but the most flattering of lights, than you can’t post your video.
The owner is a lawyer, and I have heard that she has threatened more than one TH-camr with legal action, calling their opinions defamatory or slanderous.
That’s why project fear and everyone else who records there are afraid to straight up call them frauds.😊
That might interest John if he reads it.
If the owner really Is a lawyer, she's a bad one, cause if she's involved in scamming people, her claims of slander wouldn't hold up in a court of law.
@@stefanoliveira8718 Actually it would explain why she is so good at exploiting loopholes that make her business *technically* not legally scam
This is super valuable context, thanks
This is important to know. This could just be a rumor, but there's talk going around that she's threatening legal action against Sam & Colby, even though they've said very VERY little to criticize Catori. It would explain quite a bit, including why these creators don't call out what seems obvious to the rest of us.
The requirement to give full names even for people not registering the room or paying for it is the clear and obvious giveaway that they are googling the names.
And when the supposed dead relative says his name is "Rob" when nobody ever called him that when he was alive. And it just so happens that the obituary available online never mentions his nickname.
Thats why i would personally love to do this with a film crew to prove them wrong. I've legally changed my name. First and last name. You dont find anything about my family by googling my now legal name. youd have to somehow find my birth name to find anyone
@@RenniganEaglePretty sure they would deny you just because they'd find nothing on you. I believe this comes up in John's first video, they won't take just anyone who wants to see the experience. They'll want to background check them first.
@@thepenitence Also, they probably take a credit card for a deposit. This would ensure that they'll have the desired info to begin searching online for dead relatives.
I almost want to go there and watch them struggle. Where I live, my family name is super common, and my family tree is kind of a mess with some parents not giving their names to their kids and such. Also I don't really have a big digital footprint, I almost never use my actual name online. So, the chance of them to find any dead relative of mine on the Internet would be really slim. Unfortunately, I don't have the money nor the motivation to book a plane ticket to go to a country that's something like 15 000 kilometers from where I live.
Cody and Satori just make me mad. Despite what they say, they ARE doing this for money. They work with the Conjuring House and are getting paid for this. They are using people’s dead loved ones to make money. What specifically got me was the comment with Dakota’s grandfather and him “getting his memory back”. That comment made me so mad because watching a family member’s mind deteriorate and watching them forget who you are and everything they’ve gotten to experience is HEARTBREAKING!! And these two just brought back those memories for Dakota with that comment that they didn’t need to make! What kind of person finds out that someone’s loved one had dementia before they died and then says that that same loved one got their memory back, ESPECIALLY if this is all fake(which is most likely is) is such a cruel thing to do!!
There are so many people who would probably pay anything to talk to their loved ones again, myself included, and Cody and Satori are using that against innocent people. It’s just so heartless!
The post from the conjuring houses owner was just gross. “You are not our market…” could it be more transparent what her agenda is? I really can’t believe these type of scammers still exist in 2024.
I can. Have you seen TikTok?
Hey John, I am a Lymphoma survivor.
I had a tumor directly on my knee to the point where I was unable to bend my knee comfortably when my tumor was at its peak. While this is not leukemia, this was a very direct attack on my knee joint. I had a very invasive knee surgery that ultimately ended up with my tibia bone needing a metal rod put in it in order to help me ever be able to walk again. In order to get the rod in, of course, my knee had to be dislocated and the rod shoved in that way. The rod covers from my knee to my ankle.
While there isn't much info about ankle boy's cancer, I can say with certainty that any popping of the joint would not debilitate him like she implied. It would be a miracle if my joints STOPPED popping and my procedure was monstrous! Also popping of joints has something to do with cartilage, not just the bone (I THINK!)
He is actually popping his toe. His ankle movement is just him getting his toe back in place. But it really doesn't matter, he is definitely popping something. There are videos where he is outside and the same popping is heard but muffled as if he's on grass. I'm sorry you had such a dramatic and painful operation but I hope it's all behind you now. Those rods are no joke. And they seem to remind folks of the pain whenever they want. May you be free from any other calamity, so that you can resume your life. Peace ❤
I’m glad you survived and thank you for the invaluable firsthand information 😊❤
@@SparkyTuttleif it’s his ankle or toe making the noise how can you feel the vibrations on the floor
@@graclee8873 , The vibrations come from the force of his bone. It's ok if you don't believe me. I didn't believe it myself at first. But then my granddaughter brought over a couple of friends to show me how it's done. I think we can agree that, Extraordinary claims should survive extraordinary test . So, my question to you is, if he is channelling spirits, through his toes or ankle, why then can he not agree to an impartial judge or more, in a location that replicates the flooring, in a location he does not control. He avoids this so far. 1 test and everyone would shut up. If no spirits show, we can reschedule. Why won't he agree to that?
@@graclee8873 u can hear it right? sound is vibrations. sound travels better through something solid than air. so if u can hear it. u can feel it too.
As a media and behavioral science researcher and former journalism teacher, the mention of Media Literacy makes me SO happy that I clicked on ‘subscribe’ even though this is the first video on this channel I’ve watched and I have no idea who this dude is but respect for encouraging healthy skepticism and critical thinking! Instant subscribe.
The fact that they came up with the "energy vicinity" thing instead of laughing it off and saying the ghost didnt want to or that the ghost ran away bc it's shy. Sometimes the simple way is the best
They clearly have every answer rehearsed ready incase they get asked the question
I swear there is nothing cringier than watching one or more people lie in a situation where they really care about not getting caught, when we already know for sure they're lying.
I find myself covering my face in embarassment everytime they're scrambling for a lie. They're so in over their heads.
Omg I’ve never felt such bad second hand embarrassment for someone as with these 2 scammers and compulsive liars...truly mortifying 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Liars always over detail. It’s so cringe.
Cody is just standing there with a hand on his chin like a cartoon character😂😂
“It’s up to the spirits”
It’s like watching The Office 😂😂
The leukaemia thing has nothing to do with popping joints. Nothing at all. Satori is just detracting from this by trying to elicit sympathy about his condition that he conquered. Good for him but sad to see that someone who has a second chance at life use it to scam people out of money. Truly disgusting.
Cody always looks like that supervillain that never wins anything but he just keeps trying over and over.
Ouuchhhh you right tho
I think he looks constipated
"Ankle Boy is that you?"
"I'm Ankle Man now. This time will be different."
My biggest dream is someone spending like a year or two to create a complete fake persona with fake relatives, fake records, a fake ID and everything and then just go to the Conjuring House and film Cotori making complete fools of themselves contacting like 5 ghosts of dead people that don't even exist and they don't even realize it lmao
I also like that idea. I'd love to do the same thing and get it out there for the world.
I would love to go and them try to communicate with my grandma or grandpa, just for them to find out they didn't speak English
Reckless ben and danny could probably do something about them😂😂😂
im pretty close to unsearchable on the internet but sadly im not skilled or rich enough to try >_
I would pay to watch this!
Just looked at their website and they charge $960 per night to visit and you have to provide your own equipment. I’m so disgusted that they are trying to monetize off of grieving people.
Holy fuck that's alot. Personally I'd rather go to the Bahamas or something lol
That's $1500 in my countries currency. Omg
That actually isn't much for that high profile of a place. There are some venues around me that charge that much that most people probably have never heard about.
It really isn’t that bad. I am going in two weeks. We split it with 8 ppl and we have the entire property. Consider it a hotel room stay
Dakota is a nice guy you can tell he doesn’t like conversations. It clear he doesn’t believe them he kinda plays dumb a lot during this whole thing. I personally like project fear and enjoy the way they investigate
Just watching them talk to thin air in order to scam ppl is making me cringe so hard- like, why is Satori talking to oxygen like it’s a friendly dog?
12:45
"Could you do it without shoes?"
"I don't know if the spirits would want that"
EVEN IF I wanted to believe them, that is such a mind-boggling answer. WHY?? They don't even do a weird mystical response like "oh being barefoot conects us too much with the earth and it interferes with the process, might even be dangerous". or anything like that.
"THE SPIRITS MIGHT NOT LIKE SEEING SOME TOES".
Honestly, the point of view of avoiding debunking is the only explanation I can make sense of as to why they wouldn't question the spirit's fear of FEET.
Hell, you could just say "I don't know, we've never tried!" And attempt it.
Hell, you could just say "I don't know, we've never tried!" And attempt it.
The least they could've said was that it was a safety issue
A super common tactic of psychics and mediums is saying that spirits are offended by skepticism and tests.
The amount of respect I have for John Wolfe is immeasurable.
He's a "no bullshit in my area" kind of guy! 💯💯💯
Did something happen to your respectometer?
I measure mine in pounds
@@blissfuldj7627i respect that
There are two things that I absolutely cannot tolerate: dishonesty and theft. If someone deceives me even once, that’s it - our relationship is irreparably damaged. The same goes for thieves. Once a person has lied or stolen, in my eyes, they will always be a liar or a thief.
I'd love to watch Jacqueline convince a judge that debunk videos are defamation. "Your honor, we can't prove it because the spirits don't wanna play right now, but I pinky swear that ghosts are real and we're not grifters"
Proving ghosts real in a legal case would make the law awful messy forever, and we're gonna have to justify ghost court
@@blissfuldj7627 We'd start seancing victims to act as a witness to their own murder Ace Attorney style
@@theghostofyankeejim the poor stenographer, oh no
@@blissfuldj7627 think of all the extra time they would have while the medium spells out what they want to say one letter at a time!
I mean you shouldn't need much more proof than the first example in this video of Satori doing her letter trick.
For the first two letters she goes incredibly slow because she already knows what the letters will be. Then once it comes to I, she's zooming along. At best, it's obvious confirmation bias. At worst, 100% fake.
EXACTLY! Like damn give the fake ghosts a chance to respond at least 😂
She does it a lot too!
I know, that's the first thing I noticed. Anyone paying any amount of attention to her cadence can tell she knows exactly which letter she'll be stopping at, she doesn't even try to hide when she's slowing down at the right letter to give the knocker a chance to catch up 😂
Or the video of Cody doing it 11 years ago without satori lmaooooo
I commented about this exact thing on the first video, and it's somehow managed to remain one of the top comments there.
The other comment I made there about Sam and Colby's follow-up being total BS invoking a false dichotomy got completely buried without being seen by anyone. (They seem obsessed with the idea that "if you don't have 100% definitive proof showing it being faked, then what we experienced must be 100% true", which is idiotic on its face, especially since we only have their own footage to go by.)
the way I snorted at the "I'm others" aside.
Excellent video John, really good look at how this stuff gets presented.
The paranormal community doesn't even seem to know what a skeptic is. A skeptic is just someone who waits until they have sufficient evidence to warrant belief, so of course the skeptic is the enemy of these clowns.
Man let shane show them what a real skeptic person is hahaha I bet if shane and ryan the who collab with Cotari, i can already imagine how much panic they will feel once shane ask them hahaha
@@johnvincentdaria4826 They're gonna say the ghosts don't want to communicate with Shane, I bet :D
@@claraoswald421 Imagine shane roasting abigail because she doesn't want to communicate with him 😂
I think everyone has some level of skepticism. Even people that fall for traps that this couple employs. I think it is all about proof standards. What level of proof do you need for something to feel real. It is the big reason I have never believed in psychic/mediums. Maybe there are people that can talk to the dead. But I highly doubt that I am going to meet one on some back-ally street that can read my fortune. (that doesn't implement some kind of background check or using cold reading techniques) I think some people that get into the paranormal do it because of some level of desperation. And that is what this couple feeds on. Desperate people that are not trying to figure out the authenticity of the encounter but what message they will get.
They have to build a strawman because they like the idea of "Defeating" the skeptic, but cant actually defeat any real skeptic. So they create a caricature and tear it down. A lot of people do this, and its especially prominent amongst religious circles of the "Athiest Skeptic" who "Changed their mind and found God". People love the feeling of defeating a percieved enemy.
So the thing is their rebuttals aren't rational arguments, they're emotional. Satori's not saying "Cody can't pop his joints, he had leukemia", she's saying "can you believe people are attacking this poor cancer survivor." This isn't an actual claim to fact check. The same goes for when Cody says they're being called aliens ("gosh aren't these people so absurd and crazy") or when Satori doesn't want to have her feet fetishized ("you're all a bunch of perverts too, aren't you"). Jacqueline's letter takes this maybe the furthest, where she talks to the audience as if they, personally, are being attacked. She spins it to them as if their identities and their experiences are being questioned when skeptics debunk Cody and Satori.
I think it's also important to note the "professional" connections all of these people have. Obviously these channels don't want to alienate their audiences by being hardline skeptics or whatever. But they all (Sam and Colby, Project Fear, Cody & Satori) swim in the same paranormal reality entertainment pond, and I think they're also all trying desperately not to bury or alienate each other, like how Dakota is running so much mealy-mouthed interference. Cody & Satori have connections to TAPS and the Ghost Hunters TV show, as you've brought up before. You also pointed out how Dakota Laden got his start with Ghost Adventures. It's part gossip, part people airing sour grapes on social media, but Zak Bagans basically muscled out their Destination Fear show off of TV in the same way he got his original Ghost Adventures co-host Nick Groff sidelined and then blackballed entirely from the Travel Channel. To somebody like Dakota, this was probably an object lesson in the way the game operates between the various personalities, and it's why they're all acting more or less ambivalent about this even while their audiences cotton on to the kayfabe bubble popping for Cody and Satori.
They all depend on each other to keep their careers going, and the professional networking to climb the ladder on the grift. You play nice with each other, so that way when you're scratching Satori and Cody's back and getting more people to go to the Conjuring House, they pay you back later on social media or with their "professional connections" to groups like TAPS with an established TV presence, or whatever other opportunities might crop up. You can also see the nudging in this direction in Jacqueline's letter. When she talks about how skeptics call what everyone is peddling into question so it's important for everybody to defend each other, you can read between the lines and see the warning about how they all know where each other's bodies are buried as far as what gets faked, what's pure entertainment, etc. It's the threat that they can close people out of that loop or counter-expose you if you don't play ball, the same way Zak played his "star power" at the Travel Channel.
They are both narcissists. Satori especially. Her overly sweet voice and how she to talks to everyone like toddlers (including her fake "spirits") is a manipulation tactic.
Just to add that people with leukemia or cancer, especially those treated and in remission (Cody's had bone marrow transplant), can 100% pop their joints. They even do it accidentally if it was bad enough. She also alluded that if he did so his joint wouldn't "go back in", which would mean she's saying you pop a joint by dislocating it. That's.... not how that works in the first place lol
This train of thought would make a really interesting video essay
@@angela__angel Satori could have been an MLM girlboss babe with that voice and shameless grifter attitude tbh
So that's why Nick wasn't on GA in the later seasons
Great video and also… that was one of the most intergrated, seamless sponsor transisions I’ve ever seen. Bravo.
It’s a bit of a coincidence that Cotori can only contact the souls of deceased family members…and not the souls of, say, close friends. Like what if I went to the Conjuring House and asked Cotori to contact the soul of one of my friends who died years ago?
Well they have their own families to haunt of course
@Cherokeechuck9 Exactly right. I mean, come on dude, those spirits are mad busy spelling to their own families to bother with us anymore 😂
Well, it's obvious your dead friends wouldn't talk to you, because you don't wear shoes 24/7!
"Talking to the spirits of friends is a lot more difficult than close family members because of the _energy vicinity_ of the presence of physical blood. We Need Blood."
Cody and Satory appeared on small channels before and thought Sam and Colby was one of them lol. They didn't realize how BIG Sam and Colby and their reach are. Now they're caught 😂😂😂😂
Yea right Sam and Colby did a conjuring video wayyyy before Cody and satori were there. The vid has 30 million views, doubt they thought S&C were small. If they did they’re just lying like everything else
Nah, they knew. They wanted the fame. They just thought they were the smartest people in the room... well, on the internet.
😂
Lol😂😂😂😂
Honestly lmao, in sam and colby's video when they tell them on camera "do you guys realize this is gonna change the world, millions of people will see you!" cody and satori look like they're shitting their pants 😂😂
The way John's "Think critically" motto could be used to fit perfectly as a way to end the video is masterful
Ok here’s how to solve this: Soneone needs to put forth fake info of their deceased loved ones-then go to the house and catch the couple giving out the fake answers as real ones. Caught in the act.
excactly finally someone is thinking the same way as me!
Yesss give a fake name and see what they come up with
Won't work they are 💯 the real deal they knew nothing about me and nailed my reading and the knocks were coming from way behind me and Cody and Satori were in front of me
It’s solved bro
@@DR.DisInfect So you didn't give them any of your information? Name, email, date of birth, social media?
For the last 20 years I have been displaying a goblin skull to convince people that goblins exist. Recently, skeptics online have pointed out that my skull appears identical to a halloween prop.
Now I ask you this: If I showed off my REAL goblin skull, don’t you think society would be plunged into chaos?
Please don't do it, we're not ready.
Also has it really taken people 20 years to point that out?
Oh dear! What’s that!? The …Death Knell!?!?!?
Leukemia absolutely has nothing to do with being able to “pop” your joints. 😅Source: Med School.
The urge to go over and pretend my name is "Dick Hammerbush" or something, see if they can channel the ancient Hammerbush line.
Dude I laughed so much at this comment....so thank you, needed a good laugh after a shitty day...and I totally agree!! Someone should book a tour using a wildly ridiculous made up name...that would be epic 😂🤣😂🤣😂
Satori: ...M? Mary?
*Codyknocks
Satori: ..L? loves?
*Codyknocks
Satori:.. Mary Loves Dick?
*Codyknocks frantically
(google it if you dont get it lol)
Satori: ...M? Mary?
*Codyknocks
Satori:... L? loves?
*Codyknocks
Satori:.. D? D**k?
*Codyknocks
Satori: Mary loves D**k?
*Codyknocks frantically
google if you dont get it lol
@@BalBhatti-ze3mmwait till you meet my cousin Barry McCockiner.
He’s great with kids!
It would be like in the other debunk this channel did, when they couldn't find someone's name in any records, so they skipped her and focused on the other people. If you used a fake name that they couldn't find online, they'd make sure other people were present and would focus on them instead of you.
Lying to grieving family members to make money is evil.
It's disgusting. And I would love the chance to say it to their face.
I don't get why everyone is afraid to call out evil.
This. When John says he wouldn't be one of those people to stand up and make a scene... I would be that person, in a heartbeat 😂.
@@fearlessflyer03 "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing"
@@thefinalboss2403 i mean, bit dramatic lmao. were not talking about a fecking genocide or war
The fact that Sam and Cody called over all these other paranormal investigators to watch that video and not a single one of them were skeptical or questioned it, but all immediately made reservations at the conjuring house should tell everyone what scam artist all of these paranormal investigators are. If you’re a serious paranormal investigator and you’re not just doing this too, get clicks and likes and make money which is fine. Go ahead and do that but stop calling yourselves, paranormal investigators and call yourselves entertainment, but if you are calling yourself, a paranormal investigator every single thing that happens should be looked at with skepticism. You should assume it’s not paranormal and try to prove that it is not paranormal. Once you’ve exhausted all other options then you start looking into could this be paranormal?
Do you think John would ever want to join Watcher for like an episode? I think it’d be hilarious getting John and Shane debunking all of Ryan’s freak outs! But super stoked for a new video! These have definitely been a favorite!
Pleaseeeee someone make that happen, although I'd feel terrible for poor Ryan because now he has to deal with two Shanes 😂
@@annuncreates5962 Ryan would be over it and it would just be John and Shane demanding demons to get them. Just them insulting spirits and telling them to turn on the flashlight 😂
@@annuncreates5962 then they need to bring another believer to even the playing field
That would be so fun to watch! There's gotto be some place haunted near John they could meet up! Now that y'all have described it I NEED it! 😂
Definitely. And Ryan mentioned he feels left out of the debunking so it would be great.
8:35 oh, that is vile, I know psychics are already scammers but to go straight for that is so gross.
I think even amongst the many scammers I witnessed, that is low.
The reason they’re sinking this low is because they’re trying desperately to keep the facade. Reminds me of “Nightmare Alley” from Guillermo Del Toro.
Yeah, it's so predatory and gross. Reminds me of some of the awful things Sylvia Brown would tell people grieving.
True.
When i saw that i was livid. So vile. If it was me and they did that about my grandma who lost her memory due to brain cancer id slap both of them and leave.
It is so fucking cruel cause watching a family member deteriorate like that is heart wrenching. To have someone use that in their for profit scam would be heartbreaking
It's nothing new. That has been going on for centuries. Not Google, of course, but other ways of finding out information about a person. I'm old, so I didn't see internet until I was in college. Before internet, the con artists used the local library or a local public records office to find the information.
As a father who had a son with acute lymphoblastic leukemia, joint popping, was never brought up before, during, or after his treatment. (He had his last dose of chemo about a year ago, and is in complete remission by the way) the only thing they told us to be wary of were major cuts, because of his low platelet levels, he was prone to heavy bleeding while on chemo
Lmao can you imagine,a ghost,been dead for 100 years desperately trying to reach out to a living, there come two people that can see her, the ghost refuses because they aren't wearing shoes !
I cannot get over the absolute audacity of Jacqueline to say that monetizing videos that question the validity of Cotori's methods are slanderous and outright lies that "hurt" them, after Cotori LOOKS UP A VISITOR'S DEAD RELATIVE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEIR GRIEF AND PREY UPON IT. It's wild to me. So it's okay to monetize someone's grief, but not for someone else to monetize a video calling them out on it??? Paranormal aside, in any situation this is just grade-A sleaziness. Absolutely disgusting.
Great video as always, John! Excited to see what you do next.
only thing i could say about jacqueline is idk maybe she actually believes cotori, like not that shes in on it or anything but she is older, maybe she actually does buy it and shes obviously payed no real attention to any of the debunking videos cause if she was forced to watch them, maybe she would question them herself?
I went to have a look at that angry rant that Jacqueline posted on the Facebook page, but it looks like it was deleted.
What I did find, however, was that apparently she's experiencing a massive mental break and refuses to pay any of her employees, while posing conspiracy theories now. So that's... fun.
34:10 "having proof would cause chaos"
So... they make shows for the specific purpose of showing people that these things are real, they do all kinds of experiments to convince the audience that it is real, but when the audience asks a critical question suddenly doing *that* experiment is dangerous because it would prove that it's real?
Could they be *gasp* ...lying??
I wonder what the Fox Sisters would think if they knew that over 200 years later people were still using their methods and others were still falling for them. Maybe get Cody and Satori to ask them?
I can make that same ankle pop sound whenever I want. I knew how to do it since I was about 6 years old. My foot moves just like his when I do it, too. I never thought of using it to scam people. I'm not clever enough, I guess.
How do you do it
So when these two are totally backed in a corner their go to is "well have to see if the spirit's will wanna do it". If someone can't see through this, idk what to say
Right?? When they were asked to take of their shoes....”oh the spirits are not comfortable with that” WHAT?!!!! How are ppl ok with that answer?? 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
The spirit's what?
Correct punctuation matters.
"never doubt or question any aspect of this belief system" and "if you call out bad behavior of one community member, you're an enemy of the entire community" is cult shit frfr
@JohnWolfe I live for your debunks. You make our populace better. TY❤
Was running out of stuff to watch thanks
Same
Me too lol
(in sam's voice) *True*
I couldn’t find anything to watch either
True man
As someone who just last year lost her grandma to Alzheimers, I really do hope she has her memory back in the afterlife. But those two playing with people like they do, and simply telling Dakota what he wanted to hear.. ugh. Disgusting. Really despicable.
I hope that's how it is too but saying so like its 💯 fact is vile. We don't know.. and manipulating people for alot of money is horrid.
Honestly, things wouldn't be as bad if Cody and Satori weren't drawing on individual guests' personal lives. It's one thing to have a 'resident ghost' and sell the experience of a haunted place like many places do. However, to cross the boundary into mediumship/clairvoyance is undeniably taking advantage of the vulnerable and desperate, as proven by several unfortunate commentors here. I can tolerate atmosphere and suspending disbelief of the supernatural for 'fun', but the latter is disgusting.
Dakota’s attitude in their interview with Cody & Satori and the things Sam & Colby said on the Iced Coffee Hour podcast caused me to unfollow both on TH-cam and social media. I know one person doesn’t make a difference, but I just can’t believe how they’re still protecting them. They don’t have to throw anyone under the bus, they can respectfully say that they do believe in their ability but understand why others don’t and they can’t explain why Cody and Satori aren’t willing to prove it, but they still believe in it.
I did the same thing. I was disgusted by some responses after all of the evidence against them has come out. No backbone on these people. Really upsetting.
Same. Glad I didn’t join their fundraiser or club thing.
It's like they're going against their whole YT channel's objective. "To prove ghost is real with evidences"
And then they proceed to protect the scammers...
i believe a big reason for this is because they can and would most definitely try to sue them, i think its mostly to just avoid conflict, but also they are victims of cody and satori’s manipulation
The thing is everyone treats them like profesional Ghost Hunters when they're just clickbait yters they literally had a yt house like team 10😭
"The spirit said he was killed while he was still alive."
Oh my god...
Thank Jove. Imagine how much it would suck to be killed when you're dead. It's like dividing by 0. It could destroy the very fabric of reality.
Bruh, that factor transition is one of the funniest and brilliant things I've seen in a while, 10/10
I went on a tour at the conjuring house in late 2022 with my family (I live in RI). We had Cody and Satori as our tour guides. When we were in the basement we all heard a knocking sound and Cody instantly reacted, asking if maybe another guest for the tour had arrived. He went upstairs for a brief time and then came back stating nobody was at the front door. I now I have a different perspective on the “knocking” sound we heard.
He was probably doing it lol
He was doing it
Ankle Boy and Alphabet Girl has me dying. Would make a wonderful web comic
Literally had me cackling 😭😭
The most hard hitting "Think Ciritcally" ending of all time.
We need to crowdfund a trip for someone who can also pop his joints to attend a meeting and show them how playful the spirits can get.
Unfortunately they would claim something along the lines of "there's few spirits present", "there's an evil spirit here" etc.
@@jacobjake7623Yeah, but it would be fun to see them squirm. And then our joint-popping mole would start asking the questions and answer them himself.
I would pay to see this
during these debunking videos i just keep wanting to go there because i would have to give them my legal name and they would find my dad’s obituary. it’s literally so positive and makes him seem like he was a great person and father. the thing is though, he was the worst person i’ve ever met and probably will ever meet. he abused me verbally, physically, emotionally, mentally, and sexually. but obviously none of that was mentioned at all. it would be so funny watching them portray him in a positive way and having him give me a sweet message while knowing that he was a monster. i wonder how they’d try and get out of that one lmao
Thats terrible, hope you are able to heal with him now gone
@@josselinsalgado2951 thank you, i was honestly so relieved when i found out that he died because i was finally free. it’s been difficult though because my family doesn’t believe me and they talk so highly of him, most of them don’t even talk to me anymore. but i have really amazing friends who help, love, and support me. plus at the end of the day, they’re terrible people who are taking the side of an even worse dead person while i’m healing and making memories with the best people i’ve ever met. so i take that as a win lol
I like how they said they don't take money "directly". Basically just admitted it's under the table.