Its very much on purpose and servers generally 2 goals: - Give Vader a goal of trying to overthrow or kill him while keeping his hate going. - General Entertainment cause by this point theres very lil Palps can do to have fun.
Considering he wanted Vader to become a better politician. Even though he's not suited for it. Trolling him, was probably the only way to teach him. XD
That’s the theme they are going for in this series. It’s part of the plot and the over arching narrative. Emperor=really bad. Vader=bad but sympathetically bad with a spirit of vengeance for the slights he has been given. It’s really good villain writing.
Can you imagine being Vader trying to catch the brat who crashed his bosses car only to find out it was his own son? No wonder he looked so aged under that helmet
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I think this was a huge part of how Palpatine controlled Vader. He always put Vader in horrible straights that fueled his anger but would eventually give him the chance for vengeance. This was basically a dopamine hit to give his apprentice some measure of satisfaction. It never occurred to me until now that Vader was basically in an abusive relationship with Palpy.
Vader knew how Palpatine used him the moment he was named Darth Vader, he realised that Palpatine was manipulating him and had he beaten Obiwan wouldve likely gone on to kill Palpatine aswell, it's mainly the armor and physical disabilities that stops him from killing his master
I know I'm late to the party but, Tagge had a front row seat example. He was one of the officers that was in the death star conference room in ANH. He was the one warning of the dangers of the rebels having the plans, and how they could compromise the station. He's the only officer that lives as he evacuates once they analyze the rebel's attack pattern. You'd think with his sense of caution and witnessing Vader choking a dude from across the table.
The emperor is soo cunning omg! He knows exactly how to keep vader under his complete control. He severely disciplines him for his failure to the point where most people would have betrayed him and then he shows vader that nah im done being pissed at u your place is here and then re affirms him with trust and redemption that isnt even compassionate but of the dark side. like he knows what hees doing omg.
It might seem like the guy was unwise to treat Vader with disrespect but the truth is that Vader would have killed him for his failure anyway even if hadn't so he might as well have.
What Cassio Tagge failed to see is that his power relied on paper, someone named him a commander, others acknowledge it. Darth Vader's power comes from The Force, he is powerful regardless of what others say. And a Paper Tiger like Cassio Tagge will always be shred to pieces by an actual Tiger.
I always find it funny that the officers thinking pissing off the emperors right hand is a good way to go. Even through cannonly dude wiped out an entire battalion of rebels by himself
Despite being a man obsessed with graphs and analytics, Tagge was a fool. A truly smart commander would have spoken with Vader privately and come to terms with him. He no doubt had information on how many imperial officers that Vader had...retired during his career. If he and Vader had come to an understanding, made it look like Vader was being punished for the emperor. He might just have lived long enough to see some of his ideas come to fruition, as well as having Vader's backing, not as a friend, but at least as someone Vader had a mutual respect for.
I think Tagge was put there to kind "punish" Vader by the Emperor - let a lesser person essentially boss him around a bit. But in the end, when Tagge failed, the Emperor, knowing al about Vader's humiliation by the smug noble, and wanting to set an example, let Vader be the one to essentially punish Tagge. After all , Vader was Palp's enforcer. Keep the others in line with fear.
That's always been conflicting Canon though Vader really *DIDN'T LIKE THE DEATH STAR* so in essence 3:10 or so in when Tagge mentions "Tarkin's Folley" Vader really canonically speaking should've agreed there are multiple source materials with Vader disapproving of The Death Star
@@laneneely1077 From what ive read and seen, he really didnt like Tarkin but respected him for the most part. Tarkin's vision of a weapon that would make all systems cower when mentioned would be great for the Empire, but making it a Single Station was the biggest mistake. Many people shared this sentiment but kept quiet due to fear of "opossing" the Empire; even Thrawn saw it as a massive risk to focus so many resources, especially when the Fleet/Navy could be improved further to be far better trained and equipped.
@Lontracanadensis tis what I referred to as saying *MULTIPLE* He does To Krenic in Rogue 1, He does in the books including Thrawn Alliances when he flat out basically tells Thrawn he agrees 100% against the Death Star & wants More Capital Ships & Annnd *TIE DEFENDERS* He tells Thrawn "I will personally tell The Emperor I agree with you not only on the amount of waste in the death star but I want your Capital ships & Tie design to be pushed through" mind you Rogue 1 is Disney Era so both Lucas & Disney & the in-between books, comics fan made, most lore more consistently says "Vader is NOT Keen On The DS Project"
The events revolving around vader in the years leading up to Yavin are great material for more SW series. Imagine seeing Vader leading his 501st (now storm troopers) in battles.
You'd think after that force choke, Vader gave him on the 1st death star after he disrespectful comments about his views of the Force, he would've learned to be more cautious around Vader.
The thing that’s funny is, there is NO ONE but the emperor in the entire structure of the empire who ranks above Vader. He only supports and listens to tarkin because he respects him.
Tagge actually had a fair bit of respect for Vader. His only flaw was that he unwittingly allowed Cylo to take over the Executor. Had that not happened, Vader might have let him live, knowing, as he did, Tagge’s strategic brilliance.
I actually liked Tagge from the movie. He seemed like one of the more level headed Imperial Officers, not outright hostile towards Vader like Motti either. Had a realistic view on what the Rebellion was capable of and didn't blindly trust in the power of the Death Star. Also why would an Imperial Army general being commanding the Imperial Fleet?
He was made Supreme Commander, which gave him authority over all military forces. Think General Douglas MacArthur during WW2. Even though MacArthur was an Army officer, he still had full authority over all other troops, regardless of service branch.
Even tarkin had respect to a degree? He had plenty of respect after they both nearly ended each other when cader ask tarkin to bring hunters and trackers and hunt vader down to kill him. That dope AF
More than one person tried their crap with Vader. They did not realize that Captain Respirator was Palpi McScrotumface’s right hand. A rather unfortunate oversight.
To think that Tarkin still knew what was the limits with Vader is crazy. And to thing that there was someone more crazy than Tarkin when it came to pissimg off Vader is even more crazy.
Palpatine: Tage! You have been demoted beneath Darth Vader! HAVE FUN! 😜 Tage: WhAt??! Vader: Come along. I have a…….present waiting…..for your act of kindness to me. 😈
He went MIA in the tentacles of a pissed off purgil somewhere around 1 year before the battle of yavin. All of what is covered in this video is post bby
This is how Palpatine played, taking bets with royal guards.. "How long till Vader blows up?" ..he knows Vader is a Sith, so if he off'd Tage right away, I doubt he'd scold him much
Just saying.. in Star Wars, Tagge is pronounced "tag", rather than "tayj", as per the pronunciation in the Star Wars radio dramatization that Lucas had oversight of. Good video!
Supposedly he was on dantooine when the deathstar was destroyed in the expanded material But in the movies, yeah, He's Super dead in the death star explosion
Thumbnail makes it look like an Agent 47 contract: Diana: “Good morning, 47. Your target today is one Anakin Skywalker, more commonly known today as Darth Vader. ‘Vader’ is the chief enforcer for The Empire and a former Jedi who betrayed the old Order. Jedi are not know for their revenge, though cloners are. Our client wishes you to strike back after their facilities were destroyed 2 decades ago. ‘Vader’ can be found patrolling the newly completed wonder weapon dubbed the Death Star. You are known for your light touch and discretion, though this contract may require some Force. Our clients are waiting, 47. Good luck.”
So Disney can ruin the LAST good thing about Star Wars. Hard pass. Leave him the badass he is. Either Disney would give him the Witcher treatment and make him a side character in his own show OR they would gender + race swap him and make the new fem-Vader gay.
Command or not, purposefully ticking off a magical rage-borg is unwise.
Oh yes indeed. That has a tendency to end rather badly.
Or very very badly.
Even Tarkin had his limits with pissing off Vader 😂
His resistance was futile!
Man isn’t that the truth
I swear the emperor just loves trolling Vader
Yep
It is usually explicitly that
Its very much on purpose and servers generally 2 goals:
- Give Vader a goal of trying to overthrow or kill him while keeping his hate going.
- General Entertainment cause by this point theres very lil Palps can do to have fun.
Considering he wanted Vader to become a better politician. Even though he's not suited for it.
Trolling him, was probably the only way to teach him. XD
That’s the theme they are going for in this series. It’s part of the plot and the over arching narrative. Emperor=really bad. Vader=bad but sympathetically bad with a spirit of vengeance for the slights he has been given. It’s really good villain writing.
Can you imagine being Vader trying to catch the brat who crashed his bosses car only to find out it was his own son? No wonder he looked so aged under that helmet
That...thats, actualy..actually... I mean... Jesus dude that pretty much sums it up 😂
Haven't heard that one before lol that's both funny and a perfect way to describe what happened
I think he was proud about that
Wow!!! That's really the perfect analogy. Hilarious but accurate 😂😂😂😂😂.
The emperor does it again ! , testing Vader's patience and stretching it until the limit but granting him sweet revenge
he is the Dark Lord of Edging
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@@garywilbanks7236 😂
@@garywilbanks7236 I was just about to say that. Seems Palpatine knows how to motivate.
@@jojoflap not*
" Not used to taking orders" he said about the former slave.
“Where is the rebel base?” -Darth Vader asked calmly
that's propably exactly why being bossed around pisses him off though
He betrayed the Jedi so he wouldn’t have to take orders anymore…
Must have missed episode 1
@@sabrewolf4129
You didn't miss much, then?
*Vader force choking Tage*
Tarkin: “Ehhhhh…. Ima let him have this one.”
Ghost-Tarkin maybe. Pretty sure he ded by that point.
@@nickolasrichmond8739yes he was
Tarkin was VERY dead at this point
I think this was a huge part of how Palpatine controlled Vader. He always put Vader in horrible straights that fueled his anger but would eventually give him the chance for vengeance. This was basically a dopamine hit to give his apprentice some measure of satisfaction. It never occurred to me until now that Vader was basically in an abusive relationship with Palpy.
Keep him busy so he can't turn on you.
thats generally how the sith roll.
(its also how they teach)
Really? Not until now?
Vader knew how Palpatine used him the moment he was named Darth Vader, he realised that Palpatine was manipulating him and had he beaten Obiwan wouldve likely gone on to kill Palpatine aswell, it's mainly the armor and physical disabilities that stops him from killing his master
@@miragemain105 BEing weak to Palp's signiture attack would do that
You'd think after witnessing what Darth Vader did to Tagge, Admiral Ozzell would have been more careful.
5:12 tell me palpatine doesn’t look like the grinch without green fur lmao haha😂
I see it lol
Looks a bit like jim carrey as the grinch too
😮😢😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😊
He would be a grinch who would pull the ghosts that came to pull him to the right path, to the dark side.
@@deryaergul8261 or the grinch that stole the republic.
Apparently he missed the safety briefing about not pissing off the giant murder borg.
I know I'm late to the party but, Tagge had a front row seat example. He was one of the officers that was in the death star conference room in ANH. He was the one warning of the dangers of the rebels having the plans, and how they could compromise the station. He's the only officer that lives as he evacuates once they analyze the rebel's attack pattern. You'd think with his sense of caution and witnessing Vader choking a dude from across the table.
"I'm in charge"
Vader: "Do you feel in charge?"
The emperor is soo cunning omg! He knows exactly how to keep vader under his complete control.
He severely disciplines him for his failure to the point where most people would have betrayed him and then he shows vader that nah im done being pissed at u your place is here and then re affirms him with trust and redemption that isnt even compassionate but of the dark side. like he knows what hees doing omg.
fun comic. Some of the greatest patience ever seen from anakin/vader. He could've drawn out his demise a bit longer.
If Tagge hadn’t let the power go to his head, and showed Vader the proper respect, he might have survived.
Would he though? Vader killed his subordinates when they messed up, even if they never showed anything but respect.
We'd Like to Think So but No, The Empire Ain't Like That
Survived and thrived.
Tell Captain Needa that
@Drachenhannes. He did spare Admiral Piette.
2:31 Vader looks like he has a big pair of puppy eyes. The gray curves in the outer edges of his visors make him look like that. LOL You're welcome. 🤣
I see that when his watching Luke being electrocuted by the Emperor
It might seem like the guy was unwise to treat Vader with disrespect but the truth is that Vader would have killed him for his failure anyway even if hadn't so he might as well have.
I dont think thats true. Vader respects good leadership.
I think emporer wanted him to due so, to fuel vaders rage. passion gives him strength
Vader with a red cape goes hard.
What Cassio Tagge failed to see is that his power relied on paper, someone named him a commander, others acknowledge it. Darth Vader's power comes from The Force, he is powerful regardless of what others say. And a Paper Tiger like Cassio Tagge will always be shred to pieces by an actual Tiger.
I always find it funny that the officers thinking pissing off the emperors right hand is a good way to go. Even through cannonly dude wiped out an entire battalion of rebels by himself
“Be careful whose toes you step on, because they might end up connected to butt you one day have to kiss.”
Whoever said quote must of had a stroke midway through saying that…
What the heck lmao
The edit comment button exists...
I think this guy just like saying “Casio O’ Tage”!!!!!!!! 😂
8:17 little did they know, Vader would eventually kill everyone in this room
The emperor was trolling Anakin Skywalker Lord Vader the entire time he never let him reach his true potential out of fear
Admiral Ozzel just witnessed his future fate right before his very own eyes, lol.
The more I hear about that Story, the more respect goes to Thrawn trolling both Vader and Palpatine, and survived.
Despite being a man obsessed with graphs and analytics, Tagge was a fool. A truly smart commander would have spoken with Vader privately and come to terms with him. He no doubt had information on how many imperial officers that Vader had...retired during his career. If he and Vader had come to an understanding, made it look like Vader was being punished for the emperor. He might just have lived long enough to see some of his ideas come to fruition, as well as having Vader's backing, not as a friend, but at least as someone Vader had a mutual respect for.
The first force choke scene really proves how the film was initially meant as a stand alone project with no sequels or added lore...
You gott-A bee on your helmeTT !!! (proceeds to slap vader)
I think Tagge was put there to kind "punish" Vader by the Emperor - let a lesser person essentially boss him around a bit. But in the end, when Tagge failed, the Emperor, knowing al about Vader's humiliation by the smug noble, and wanting to set an example, let Vader be the one to essentially punish Tagge. After all , Vader was Palp's enforcer. Keep the others in line with fear.
I mean, that's how you get choked out from 7,000 lightyears out, so...
That's always been conflicting Canon though Vader really *DIDN'T LIKE THE DEATH STAR* so in essence 3:10 or so in when Tagge mentions "Tarkin's Folley" Vader really canonically speaking should've agreed there are multiple source materials with Vader disapproving of The Death Star
He flat-out said so right in front of Tarkin even, before choking Admiral Motti.
Maybe he just respected Tarkin.
@@laneneely1077 From what ive read and seen, he really didnt like Tarkin but respected him for the most part.
Tarkin's vision of a weapon that would make all systems cower when mentioned would be great for the Empire, but making it a Single Station was the biggest mistake.
Many people shared this sentiment but kept quiet due to fear of "opossing" the Empire; even Thrawn saw it as a massive risk to focus so many resources, especially when the Fleet/Navy could be improved further to be far better trained and equipped.
@Lontracanadensis tis what I referred to as saying *MULTIPLE* He does To Krenic in Rogue 1, He does in the books including Thrawn Alliances when he flat out basically tells Thrawn he agrees 100% against the Death Star & wants More Capital Ships & Annnd *TIE DEFENDERS* He tells Thrawn "I will personally tell The Emperor I agree with you not only on the amount of waste in the death star but I want your Capital ships & Tie design to be pushed through" mind you Rogue 1 is Disney Era so both Lucas & Disney & the in-between books, comics fan made, most lore more consistently says "Vader is NOT Keen On The DS Project"
@@peterwhite6415 I think Vader respected a lot more people than he liked.
Sounds like he got up-Taged! One nice thing about Vader using force choke is that it doesn't leave a mess on the deck.
The emperor said I’m in charge, Lord Vader.
Good luck with that, let’s see how many fingers he lifts to save you from me…
The events revolving around vader in the years leading up to Yavin are great material for more SW series. Imagine seeing Vader leading his 501st (now storm troopers) in battles.
Angering Darth Vader? That isn't going to end well....
They should make this into a live-action mini-series.
You'd think after that force choke, Vader gave him on the 1st death star after he disrespectful comments about his views of the Force, he would've learned to be more cautious around Vader.
that was Motti not Tagge
But Tagge was there, and vader proved he had much more than just a lighsaber. From what I understood @KisaJrII
The thing that’s funny is, there is NO ONE but the emperor in the entire structure of the empire who ranks above Vader. He only supports and listens to tarkin because he respects him.
Note to self: do not piss Darth Vader off under any circumstance
Tagge actually had a fair bit of respect for Vader. His only flaw was that he unwittingly allowed Cylo to take over the Executor. Had that not happened, Vader might have let him live, knowing, as he did, Tagge’s strategic brilliance.
6:29 He wasn't used to being treated like a servant?
He was a slave.
I actually liked Tagge from the movie. He seemed like one of the more level headed Imperial Officers, not outright hostile towards Vader like Motti either. Had a realistic view on what the Rebellion was capable of and didn't blindly trust in the power of the Death Star. Also why would an Imperial Army general being commanding the Imperial Fleet?
He was made Supreme Commander, which gave him authority over all military forces. Think General Douglas MacArthur during WW2. Even though MacArthur was an Army officer, he still had full authority over all other troops, regardless of service branch.
Grand General Schmuck purposely angered Vader. That was NOT a Wise move.
Vader being very Jedi with all that restraint and patience
He WAS a Jedi Master.
@FLMKane He was on the Jedi council, but he was not given the rank of master.
@@O5-15. That's outrageous, that's unfair
You think Sith cannot be patient in their fury and revenge?
If Taage wanted to REALLY rub Vaders nose in it, he could have told Vader to clean the racks.
For a moment I thought it was Kratos
I thought it was Picard
I thought it was Mr.Clean
Palpatine does these things on purpose lol
Even tarkin had respect to a degree? He had plenty of respect after they both nearly ended each other when cader ask tarkin to bring hunters and trackers and hunt vader down to kill him. That dope AF
Bro, was trying to speedrun death😂
More than one person tried their crap with Vader. They did not realize that Captain Respirator was Palpi McScrotumface’s right hand. A rather unfortunate oversight.
Even Tarkin knew he had a limit to how much he could order Vader around. This guy had no brain.
The one thing he should have remembered, was that Vader was that apprentices can be hard to replace, commanders not so much.
Command over Vader is fleeting, make sure you don't piss him off at all
This is a Star Wars version of "FAFO".
Dude had it coming. Never piss off a Sith Lord.
F'cking Vader... Subtlety isn't something in his vocabulary.
*Sudlty
@@im3phirebird81No, it's subtlety.
@@im3phirebird81 what? lol
Lol
To think that Tarkin still knew what was the limits with Vader is crazy.
And to thing that there was someone more crazy than Tarkin when it came to pissimg off Vader is even more crazy.
"now that you're back on op I have a new assignment for you, go defeat Hitler in a rap battle"
Haha Death Vader is a Dawg 😂
"Half machine... half magic... and what's with the cloak? Are we going to the Opera?... I think not"
I am not going to lie, I thought I heard "member of the joined cheese." 0:51
What comic book is this from? This guy never says
The Emperor is Phil Jackson, and Darth Vader is Michael Jordan.
What's Thrawn? Rodman or Pippin?
Yeah, I don’t recommend angering the guy who can choke you to death with a thought over the equivalent of a Space Skype call.
Vader and Tarkin had mutual respect for each other. That's the only reason Vader "obeyed" Tarkins release command.
No, he obeyed because the Emperor made it explicitly clear that Tarkin was in control. Not Vader.
Palpatine: Tage! You have been demoted beneath Darth Vader!
HAVE FUN! 😜
Tage: WhAt??!
Vader: Come along. I have a…….present waiting…..for your act of kindness to me. 😈
Tarkin: This bickering is pointless! What are we? Junior high bitches?
Vader: He started it.
Where was Thrawn during this time period? I thought Palp's had him way up the food chain.
This is cannon so Thrawn is lost in the different galaxy from the end of Rebels.
@@billygrantham5380 Hmm...
He went MIA in the tentacles of a pissed off purgil somewhere around 1 year before the battle of yavin.
All of what is covered in this video is post bby
I wish we had this Darth Vader on the Big Screen. A prime Darth Vader would go so hard.
The saying about being nice to people on the way up springs to mind.
Old Palpy can play Vader like a cheap fiddle.
I love the comics of vader
Compared to the Anakin/Vader I know, Vader here has learned patience 😂 loads of it
"None could escape Vader's furry none could escape his wrath." That included the Emperor himself in the end.
I found his lack of fath deatrbing 😂😂😂😂
nailed it
Did you have a stroke at the end?
Him: But im in charge...
Vader: *breathing* .....*puts gloved hand on his shoulder* ....*breathing*... Do you feel in charge? *breathing*
Not smart to poke a bear.
8:38 curb your to be continued starts playing
Bruh who did Lil bro think he was lmao
This is how Palpatine played, taking bets with royal guards.. "How long till Vader blows up?" ..he knows Vader is a Sith, so if he off'd Tage right away, I doubt he'd scold him much
The best way to get your revenge.
Just saying.. in Star Wars, Tagge is pronounced "tag", rather than "tayj", as per the pronunciation in the Star Wars radio dramatization that Lucas had oversight of.
Good video!
9:20 And the fool still had the gall to talk down to Vader in the beginning of TESB.
I kept waiting for the guy in the photo to make me turn this on to be the one that was the antagonist
Clicked the instant I read the notification
Palpatine is the undisputed champion of gaslighting.
Vader found the stash of 500M cigarettes 6:00
Damn, agent 47 tellin Darth Vader he got a strange name
I wonder if Vader having to deal with normal people is how a billionaire feels being around people who shop at Walmart.
This was brutal, great video :-)
Feels like the emperor knew all that would happen and used it as a means to fuel vader's rage.
i think that's the point yeah.
This entire thing doesn’t work. Tagge was stationed on the Death Star, no evacuation was ever ordered and there is no way he survived that explosion.
Supposedly he was on dantooine when the deathstar was destroyed in the expanded material
But in the movies, yeah, He's Super dead in the death star explosion
Darth Vader in a red cape is easily the best look of the empire.
ONE ONE WANNA TALK ABOUT THE THUMBNAIL BEING MISSLEADING!?
I wish your thumbnails actually reflected the videos content.
Thumbnail makes it look like an Agent 47 contract:
Diana: “Good morning, 47. Your target today is one Anakin Skywalker, more commonly known today as Darth Vader. ‘Vader’ is the chief enforcer for The Empire and a former Jedi who betrayed the old Order. Jedi are not know for their revenge, though cloners are. Our client wishes you to strike back after their facilities were destroyed 2 decades ago. ‘Vader’ can be found patrolling the newly completed wonder weapon dubbed the Death Star. You are known for your light touch and discretion, though this contract may require some Force. Our clients are waiting, 47. Good luck.”
Ozzel looking on as Tagge was strangled😆😆😆😆
I just want a Vader series or movies. His adventures and side missions are so cool!
So Disney can ruin the LAST good thing about Star Wars. Hard pass. Leave him the badass he is.
Either Disney would give him the Witcher treatment and make him a side character in his own show OR they would gender + race swap him and make the new fem-Vader gay.
I have this series in my collection, it’s my second favorite line of comics
Seems like a nice guy.
Everything Palpatine did was to aggravate and make Vader furious and angry. The angrier he got the more useful he become...