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Will never forget the utter confusion I had when I drove a M4 for the first time and tried to turn it off. Even the dealer I went on the test drive with had to go back inside and get someone to come out and turn it off after we did the drive 😂
One thing not mentioned is that when in D for example, when you move to Sequential Shift Mode (or manual), the car will continue to stay in manual mode until you physically push the shift lever rightwards to bring it back to D. Also, anytime you use the +/- (stalk or paddles) the car automatically goes into manual mode and stays in manual mode until it is physically taken out of manual mode. I actually love the DCT when used with the +/- function on the stalk. Not so much using the paddles.
VAE Tech I agree, the shifter gives you the best of both worlds. You do have to be aware when you have it in manual mode. It will downshift by itself as you slow down but it won’t upshift until you initiate it.
When you switch off your DCT M car in neutral which activates the fault message, you don't have to restart the engine to put the gear to D/R, you just need to press the "start/stop" button again with foot off any pedal. The car will automatically engage Park.
To clarify, the three gear change settings effect what gear it holds for a given speed in auto, kickdown and very slightly but not much on the shift up if at full throttle as that is always maximum acceleration in any auto settings. The same three settings also effect the quickness and therefore harshness of manual shifts when paddle shifting as it does to slightly improved the maximum acceleration in D2 and D3 automatic mode. Care need be taken to not accidentally engage manual from automatic with an unintended press of ether paddle when driving this DCT.
The DCT is designed to resemble a manual because BMWs are for driving fanatics and the way you park a manual is leave it in gear so the DCT tries to resemble that so truning the engine off in D or R makes the car go in Park
You dont have to do all that to park the car. You can leave it in almost any gear and the car will automatically go into Park once you turn the car off by pressing the on/off switch twice, pull up the e brake and lock the doors. I do it daily.
...wow...took this long to finally find a video like this...seen a few BMW's with the Manual looking gearboxes and i figured they were manual and not DTC
@@ECPP can I ask you somenthing but me english is not so good..My question is when you put it the transsmision to manual mode and change the gear with upshift and downshift is that a possible with downshift to change the gear 1 to neutral while driving and do some revs?? I hope you understand my question 🙂
I've driven manual cars my whole life. I'm 60 now. I love the DCT in my M4.. it shifts way faster than I can. The manual is coming back though, so all of the whiners can get one now. But it will be slower.
Thanks you for you video. I just bought a x6m and I keep getting that error when putting in park. I couldn't figure out how I put it in park the couple times I did it. Thank you. Now I got it lol. Damn luxury cars lol.
Well, I do own one, but it took me much more than a minute to figure out, I'll admit shamelessly. But I'm bit OCD with cars, so I thought the "proper" way was to go to N, push button, apply hand brake, and then push button a second time. And I thought, sheesh, this is kind of cumbersome!
The base transmission on a DCT is a manual transmission. Thats why it doesnt roll automatically when lifting your foot of the brakes. Thats why people blimp the gas alit when reversing example
It's pretty much driving a AT in manual shift mode all the time, doesnt seem hard at all. But a actual MT sounds more fun but this would be better in traffic then shift with a MT
I'm glad I went the the 6 speed manual in my M4. This DCT is just too complex. There is a LOT that can go wrong and leave you stuck and in need of a tow.
Hi, great video, very interesting. I recently got an M4 DKG. Is it normal that when slowing down at low rpm it jumps a little every now and then? A thousand thanks
As a life long manual driver this all seems very complicated and confusing. Once it's in manual mode will it sometimes take over and try to over ride you sometimes or second guess what you want to do? Also I would have thought pulling back should shift down and pushing forward should shift up - can you change it? Are autos much less annoying in traffic jams? What is the procedure for using one in traffic jams?
In full manual mode it will downshift to stop you stalling but it won't upshift if you redline it - you have full control there. Also, having the lever back for upshifts and forward for downshifts is the race car layout (Porsche do it too). It follows the natural rhythm of the car's motion; towards the motion of acceleration when upshifting (pushing you into your seat) and deceleration when downshifting. These are the things that set a proper sports car apart from comfort cars like Mercedes or Audi. In traffic jams you apply the brake pedal and the car will stop, and you shift to neutral in one quick & easy motion of the lever if you don't wanna stand on the brakes whilst waiting, and back again for auto or manual when setting off. A hair of throttle is necessary to get going again, DCTs don't automatically "creep" like a slushbox auto. One thing Mercedes gets right is the "hold" function on their conventional automatics, which lets you release the brake pedal but the brakes stay applied (brake lights dim to not blind cars behind) until you feather the throttle, whereupon the car will crawl forward as long as you lightly hold the throttle and automatically brake again when you come off the pedal. I got used to it in an hour or so coming from only manual cars my whole life.
@@visionist7 My 2016 530d also does that, with the 8 speed ZF transmission, it has auto-hold. if selected, when you brake to a halt it will automatically keep the brake applied until you touch the throttle to move again, works well with the starty stoppy engine thing if you so desire as well. Or you can turn auto-hold off and have the car creep whenever you release the brake as is normal for a torque converter box.
@@ECPP Wow. That's actually pretty incredible. I understood the basics of the DCT transmission but I didn't realize it had the full capability of driving in full on automatic. Always had the fear that if I were to move on to an M car from my 340, i'd be hard pressed to drive stick. Definitely want to learn but at least I know that I can move to this car in the future with the auto there to at least help me out. Thanks!
The reason why you could not lock the car at 2:53 is not because you didn't set it in the 'P' possition. It does that because the carkey is INSIDE the car. It never locks the car when the key is inside anywhere in the car even the trunk.
Ayo guys. I have got a question. Never had a real m car , about to get an m2 comp finally. So the question is , if I am in the manual mode locked in 2d gear and push it to the rpm limit , is it gonna up shift by itself or still stay in 2g gear unless I upshift it with either paddles or shifter ?
@@ECPP thanks for the response. Then how do people drift locked in 2gear so it doesn’t upshift by itself and doesn’t fuck up the slide by going to the 3rd gear when not needed ?
@@ECPP sorry to bother you. One more question. Does the dct in m2 comp allows you to apply gas to drive forward while still rolling backwards ? Like with a real manual transmission, you can put the first gear and apply some power to drive out right after switching from the reverse and moving backwards
@@olexanaxx it’ll shift based on your throttle so you can control the throttle while do donuts or you can go into manual mode and stay in 1st gear….to answer your rolling question, sometimes my M4 rolls back a TINY bit when on an incline at a light but its rare, but you can drive in manual with the paddle shifters, or manual with the transmission lever or auto where the car will shift itself….hopefully you got your M2 now !
Bob Alto you change between comfort/sport/sport plus by pressing the 3 buttons (drivetrain, suspension, steering) that are located on the forward driver side of the center console.
The "complexity", if you will, is not so much due to the transmission design, but due to the fact the instructions in the owner's manual are poorly worded and laid out. At least for the manual for the M2.
The speed settings on the gear have any role on manual shift mode or no? Because if you go to M button it has d1 d2 d3 for auto mode and s1 s2 and s3 for manual mode. What's the purpose of this if it's in manual mode?
john the shift points depends on the rps the highest u put it to ( which is the 3 lines ) the faster the car will go in each gear because it will get the most out of that gear because it will only switch to the next gear when it’s used about the maximum capacity right before it red lines.
I'll never own a dual clutch car until they decided to put an actual clutch pedal for sport mode bc it's not a real manual mode unless it has a clutch pedal
I just go a 2016 M4 with DCT. When the car stops it does not crawl forward like a normal automatic. This could be a problem when parking. Am I missing something?
To creep forward you just need to give the gas a very slight tap. There's no need to stay on the throttle, just give it that tap. It'll maintain a relatively slow creep forward (or backwards if you're in reverse of course) just like an automatic until you come to a full stop again or give it more gas to start moving faster. Be aware that on a cold start when the engine is revving higher that creep can be surprisingly fast if you're not ready for it.
Excellent advice by tangent 360, you will need to be careful on inclines and declines as well. The dct will hold your position for 2 secs and then will roll. Unlike a torque converter transmission that holds you in place. There is a learning curve to the dct but well worth it in performance.
when you're in Manual mode, does the brake act as the clutch in manual transmissions? so you need to ease into the gas while slowly removing your foot from the brake?
@@ECPP i get it is dual clutch...my learning on why it is complicated and has no P like auto transmission. Still need to figure out how to park with engine running ...
If I were to pull both the upshift and downshift paddles would the car take a screenshot?
No, you gotta press the brakes and accelerator pedals
In italian cars with the "F1 transmission", it will go to neutral
wait.. so this car can take screenshot? that's cool
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I bought an M3 this morning, my first ever automatic car. I'll be watching this video day and night for the next month or so!
Thanks a lot
@@ECPP I've been driving the car for a day and a half now, and your video has definitely saved me a lot of time trying to get it turned off.
@@jonathanrhodes8525 How are you enjoying your new car? Any regrets purchasing this transmission instead of manual?
@@Countdracula6 no regrets, I love the car. If I ever want to change gear myself, I do. I can't imagine going back to a manual now
But it's not an automatic. It's an automated manual tranny.
Will never forget the utter confusion I had when I drove a M4 for the first time and tried to turn it off. Even the dealer I went on the test drive with had to go back inside and get someone to come out and turn it off after we did the drive 😂
Does this generation m4 all have this trany. Or is it an option?
One thing not mentioned is that when in D for example, when you move to Sequential Shift Mode (or manual), the car will continue to stay in manual mode until you physically push the shift lever rightwards to bring it back to D. Also, anytime you use the +/- (stalk or paddles) the car automatically goes into manual mode and stays in manual mode until it is physically taken out of manual mode. I actually love the DCT when used with the +/- function on the stalk. Not so much using the paddles.
VAE Tech I agree, the shifter gives you the best of both worlds. You do have to be aware when you have it in manual mode. It will downshift by itself as you slow down but it won’t upshift until you initiate it.
Just hit the start button twice it will go into Park no need to turn it back on
Right. But keep the foot off the brake pedal when you press the start/stop button for a second time, otherwise you will start the engine again.
Thank you 😊
@@kerenwang437 LOL I've done that accidentally too many times
Had to valet an M3 had no idea what I was doin, thank you so much!
Thanks for the tip, good to know.
When you switch off your DCT M car in neutral which activates the fault message, you don't have to restart the engine to put the gear to D/R, you just need to press the "start/stop" button again with foot off any pedal. The car will automatically engage Park.
To clarify, the three gear change settings effect what gear it holds for a given speed in auto, kickdown and very slightly but not much on the shift up if at full throttle as that is always maximum acceleration in any auto settings. The same three settings also effect the quickness and therefore harshness of manual shifts when paddle shifting as it does to slightly improved the maximum acceleration in D2 and D3 automatic mode. Care need be taken to not accidentally engage manual from automatic with an unintended press of ether paddle when driving this DCT.
What you mean with that to be care?
The DCT is designed to resemble a manual because BMWs are for driving fanatics and the way you park a manual is leave it in gear so the DCT tries to resemble that so truning the engine off in D or R makes the car go in Park
Thank you Sir, getting in a M3 at 1st is like a alien ship lolz
Great cars
The dct can be in reverse as well, when you hit the kill button it will go to park.
Great video my guy
Just got my first BMW M4 and I was so confused on how to put the car into park so thanks a lot
Glad it helped
You dont have to do all that to park the car. You can leave it in almost any gear and the car will automatically go into Park once you turn the car off by pressing the on/off switch twice, pull up the e brake and lock the doors. I do it daily.
Very true. Thanks for watching.
Exactly right.
They make them simpler for the Canadian market.
Yes, very intuitive. Same as on manual car. No need for P Mode.
...wow...took this long to finally find a video like this...seen a few BMW's with the Manual looking gearboxes and i figured they were manual and not DTC
This is the most simplest and detailed video I have ever watch on the internet . Looking forward to learning more from you.Respect
Thank you very much. That is really appreciated.
@@ECPP can I ask you somenthing but me english is not so good..My question is when you put it the transsmision to manual mode and change the gear with upshift and downshift is that a possible with downshift to change the gear 1 to neutral while driving and do some revs?? I hope you understand my question 🙂
@@aabm9336yes, at any speed you can push the stick to neutral and rev without accelerating
I've driven manual cars my whole life. I'm 60 now. I love the DCT in my M4.. it shifts way faster than I can. The manual is coming back though, so all of the whiners can get one now. But it will be slower.
That may be, and I'm not knocking DCTs but driving with a manual is so much more enjoyable. At lease imo
Thank u 🙏 I can’t put on park before I watched you video. Thanks again 🙏
No problem 👍
Thank you, I was washing/vacuuming an M4 CS and I couldn’t get it to go into Park!
Even if he had put it in P, he wouldn't have been able to lock it from the inside, because the car would have sensed the fob inside the car.
Thanks you for you video. I just bought a x6m and I keep getting that error when putting in park. I couldn't figure out how I put it in park the couple times I did it. Thank you. Now I got it lol. Damn luxury cars lol.
For sure, no problem. Just glad it’s all good to go now. I had the same issue when I drove my m5
thanks my dude. i'm test driving a 135i tomorrow and wanted to know how before hand how to get the paddles going.
Perfect video! just what I need
Thanks
I just drove this car yesterday it was amazing
They are a ton of fun.
Informative video, cheers
Thanks a lot for watching.
Top video, as anybody seen this fault before on a dct. gearbox in position p only at standstill
The only people who don’t know this are people who don’t or won’t own one. I love mine. Took me a minute to work out how to launch it
Well, I do own one, but it took me much more than a minute to figure out, I'll admit shamelessly. But I'm bit OCD with cars, so I thought the "proper" way was to go to N, push button, apply hand brake, and then push button a second time. And I thought, sheesh, this is kind of cumbersome!
Wow!!! I think I'll look for a manual in a few years when I can afford a used M3!!!
You should!
I'll sell you my f82 less than 20k
thanks man you save my time just right now👍
The base transmission on a DCT is a manual transmission. Thats why it doesnt roll automatically when lifting your foot of the brakes. Thats why people blimp the gas alit when reversing example
Tell the cameraman to stop shaking the damn camera
Ahahahah true
Awesome 😀 😀 BMW m4 Review.
Thanks again.
Not bad. So, you can't push start it in neutral like a manual?
Thank you very much friend, you got me out of trouble.👍
This was really helpful. Thank you!
Thanks for your explanation. Clear.
that color is bad ass
Totally agree. Thing of beauty
This guy looks a bit like Tom Araya from Slayer .. Just without long hair of course. Great video 👋
Thanks a lot for watching. Cheers !
It's pretty much driving a AT in manual shift mode all the time, doesnt seem hard at all. But a actual MT sounds more fun but this would be better in traffic then shift with a MT
It is a great tranny and can meet all needs for ease of use and fun experiences
I'm glad I went the the 6 speed manual in my M4. This DCT is just too complex. There is a LOT that can go wrong and leave you stuck and in need of a tow.
Agreed.
its only too complex if you are stupid
James Bondeson you’ll get used to it....
That's what Roadside Assistance is for!
Typical internet echo.
That shifter looks like my Prius shifter lol
Betcha it’s not a dual clutch like this though. Lol
I rented an M2 in Germany a couple years ago, when I parked I was like wtf.. why can't I turn it off. Then I figured it out, haha.
Whats that the orange road/lane in the middle of the cluster my m4 i havent seen that ?
Lane departure
Thanks man great vid and great help
NP thanks for watching
Hi, great video, very interesting. I recently got an M4 DKG. Is it normal that when slowing down at low rpm it jumps a little every now and then? A thousand thanks
Yes, each jump should indicate a downshift. They should stop when you come to a full stop.
As a life long manual driver this all seems very complicated and confusing. Once it's in manual mode will it sometimes take over and try to over ride you sometimes or second guess what you want to do? Also I would have thought pulling back should shift down and pushing forward should shift up - can you change it? Are autos much less annoying in traffic jams? What is the procedure for using one in traffic jams?
In full manual mode it will downshift to stop you stalling but it won't upshift if you redline it - you have full control there. Also, having the lever back for upshifts and forward for downshifts is the race car layout (Porsche do it too). It follows the natural rhythm of the car's motion; towards the motion of acceleration when upshifting (pushing you into your seat) and deceleration when downshifting.
These are the things that set a proper sports car apart from comfort cars like Mercedes or Audi.
In traffic jams you apply the brake pedal and the car will stop, and you shift to neutral in one quick & easy motion of the lever if you don't wanna stand on the brakes whilst waiting, and back again for auto or manual when setting off. A hair of throttle is necessary to get going again, DCTs don't automatically "creep" like a slushbox auto. One thing Mercedes gets right is the "hold" function on their conventional automatics, which lets you release the brake pedal but the brakes stay applied (brake lights dim to not blind cars behind) until you feather the throttle, whereupon the car will crawl forward as long as you lightly hold the throttle and automatically brake again when you come off the pedal.
I got used to it in an hour or so coming from only manual cars my whole life.
@@visionist7 My 2016 530d also does that, with the 8 speed ZF transmission, it has auto-hold. if selected, when you brake to a halt it will automatically keep the brake applied until you touch the throttle to move again, works well with the starty stoppy engine thing if you so desire as well. Or you can turn auto-hold off and have the car creep whenever you release the brake as is normal for a torque converter box.
Do you HAVE to use the paddles in a dct or can you drive it like a regular automatic
You can drive like an auto as well
Okay thank you
Thank you makes sense now
So this transmission allows for you to drive completely in auto if I’m not mistaken?
it does
@@ECPP Wow. That's actually pretty incredible. I understood the basics of the DCT transmission but I didn't realize it had the full capability of driving in full on automatic. Always had the fear that if I were to move on to an M car from my 340, i'd be hard pressed to drive stick. Definitely want to learn but at least I know that I can move to this car in the future with the auto there to at least help me out.
Thanks!
Nice video
Thanks a lot. Cheers.
I’m so confused. Are shift paddles like stick shift for rpms? Or is it only for racing
I just bought this exact car in white same year, and this was the first video I had to watch 😂😂
Thanks for watching.
Pull directly when it‘s R, it automatically changes to N. I have learnt a lot.
Thank u this video was so helpful😁
You are welcome
I've been turning off my M4 in Neutral, they pressing the Off button again then the car goes in park. Is that still okay?
Do you have to use the paddle shifter when driving or it can automatically shift for you
You can run it in auto mode and the car will shift for you
Always have the e brake in park no matter what
The reason why you could not lock the car at 2:53 is not because you didn't set it in the 'P' possition. It does that because the carkey is INSIDE the car. It never locks the car when the key is inside anywhere in the car even the trunk.
It will also do it when you get out and try to lock the doors. It won't. Gotta be in P.
can this thing just change gears for you automatically if you do not want to lift a finger?
Only after you take it out of Park! :p
Ayo guys. I have got a question. Never had a real m car , about to get an m2 comp finally. So the question is , if I am in the manual mode locked in 2d gear and push it to the rpm limit , is it gonna up shift by itself or still stay in 2g gear unless I upshift it with either paddles or shifter ?
It will upshift
@@ECPP thanks for the response. Then how do people drift locked in 2gear so it doesn’t upshift by itself and doesn’t fuck up the slide by going to the 3rd gear when not needed ?
@@ECPP sorry to bother you. One more question. Does the dct in m2 comp allows you to apply gas to drive forward while still rolling backwards ? Like with a real manual transmission, you can put the first gear and apply some power to drive out right after switching from the reverse and moving backwards
@@olexanaxx it’ll shift based on your throttle so you can control the throttle while do donuts or you can go into manual mode and stay in 1st gear….to answer your rolling question, sometimes my M4 rolls back a TINY bit when on an incline at a light but its rare, but you can drive in manual with the paddle shifters, or manual with the transmission lever or auto where the car will shift itself….hopefully you got your M2 now !
I don’t understand. It’s an automatic with paddles. You would put any automatic car in park before you shut it off.
Hi...you didn’t show how to switch to sport mode! I’d be grateful if you can explain. Thank’s.
Bob Alto you change between comfort/sport/sport plus by pressing the 3 buttons (drivetrain, suspension, steering) that are located on the forward driver side of the center console.
The "complexity", if you will, is not so much due to the transmission design, but due to the fact the instructions in the owner's manual are poorly worded and laid out. At least for the manual for the M2.
So... u can manually shift while it’s in automatic... that’s confusing..😭 overall good video!
Thanks
How do you make it downshift aggressively which makes the engine roar
Lever
Did I just watch a video on putting a car in park when you're parking it and getting out??
on my e92 m3 i shift to N and turn off and it automatically displays P to lock it.
The speed settings on the gear have any role on manual shift mode or no? Because if you go to M button it has d1 d2 d3 for auto mode and s1 s2 and s3 for manual mode. What's the purpose of this if it's in manual mode?
I was like woah 😳when I seen it goes 330 MpH
Does anyone get a noise when they put it into Drive or Reverse ? Like the car is engaging the gear
This video feels like it was filmed in 2005
I like it and I learnt also
How to accelerate fast without jerking in first gear?
Well….
@@ECPP Thanks for your decent answer, very helpful. Not.
I had some problems parking it last night my first day with the car. I figured it out and came here to confirm Id done the right thing…
what are the "shift points"? are those taller gears where the engine will rev higher before shifting to the next gear?
john the shift points depends on the rps the highest u put it to ( which is the 3 lines ) the faster the car will go in each gear because it will get the most out of that gear because it will only switch to the next gear when it’s used about the maximum capacity right before it red lines.
Many Thanks, very well explained.
Peace From London. 🙏🙏
I'll never own a dual clutch car until they decided to put an actual clutch pedal for sport mode bc it's not a real manual mode unless it has a clutch pedal
Nice
Boohoo 😭
Will e9x m3 dct use the same technique? Put in d1 then off the car?
I just go a 2016 M4 with DCT. When the car stops it does not crawl forward like a normal automatic. This could be a problem when parking. Am I missing something?
This is normal since the DCT is more like a manual and operates dufferentoy. You need to get some throttle input to move with these.
To creep forward you just need to give the gas a very slight tap. There's no need to stay on the throttle, just give it that tap. It'll maintain a relatively slow creep forward (or backwards if you're in reverse of course) just like an automatic until you come to a full stop again or give it more gas to start moving faster. Be aware that on a cold start when the engine is revving higher that creep can be surprisingly fast if you're not ready for it.
Excellent advice by tangent 360, you will need to be careful on inclines and declines as well. The dct will hold your position for 2 secs and then will roll. Unlike a torque converter transmission that holds you in place. There is a learning curve to the dct but well worth it in performance.
When i get mi own m4 o gonna prictive it
You saved me! Thank you! Could not lock my car! 😂
when you're in Manual mode, does the brake act as the clutch in manual transmissions? so you need to ease into the gas while slowly removing your foot from the brake?
Right
You should start actually driving the bmw m4, I’ve seen multiple videos but I am yet to see you drive it .
POV drive coming up soon.
thought think left hand drive ones would be in miles per hour not kms... interesting
what country is that in my g ?
thankyou so much!! even i dont have the car..i would love to know about it
Thanks
Actually, you can just press the ignition button and it will put the car in park from the neutral off position. You don't need to start it again.
Helpful for a quick overview.
Next time, though... I believe in hiring the handicapped, but not a camera operator with epilepsy.
:P
For sure
yeah bro when i get this car im copping it in a 6 speed 😂
Yes 6 speed manual is great
Thank you🙏🙏🙏🙏
Keep it simple I always say. 6 speed all the way
I prefer a manual too.
They are the simplest and
Most engaging
And slower.
I got a headache just watching this💀looks like I’m getting the C63 after all cuz ain’t no way I’m dealing w all that shit😭
So how do we drift in these new cars?
You don't.
@@MystiXash you can easily
I have my cousin m3 and couldn’t figure how to put it in park 🤣😭🤣😭
Did the video help?
This guy just wanted to make a video
You bet
ah u see its a gear lever i know its a gear lever because of the way it is :'D
How do you put it in P with air conditioning and radio running?!!! Lol! Why is this so complicated?
Well….
@@ECPP i get it is dual clutch...my learning on why it is complicated and has no P like auto transmission. Still need to figure out how to park with engine running ...
I put this transmission in my 87' without all that electronic garbage
Why would anyone park in neutral?
I do
@@ECPP i thought everybody does park with a gear in
But i live in the alps so i think its propably unnesecary
Why cant you just move the stick to park like every other car.
No shit! Use the handbrake! You wouldn't leave a manual car in neutral without putting the handbrake on would you?
Thanks
Disorganized review. Get a camera man you’re making us all dizzy
5:05 He has a Camera Man.....well, it's a Camera Boy ;) I think it's his son.
Give him a break he's learning 😀