hey can you explain why if you indomitable creativity into ulamog the defiler (with no cards in exile prior) ulamog enters with 10 counters by seeing itself?
See rule 400.6. The gain counters ability on Ulamog is NOT an ETB triggered ability (note the lack of "when"), it is a replacement effect, so you check what cards are in exile before Ulamog moves from exile to the battlefield. Other cards that behave the same way are Walking Ballista and Clone. If their abilities were ETB triggered abilities, they would die to state based actions as they are 0/0 before gaining counters/stats. Any flicker ability will also cause it to enter with 10 counters.
So what if I cast come back wrong on a token? (Destroy and return) Would it be returned to the battlefield, because statebased actions can't be checked during spell resolution?
That is exactly how it would work except that (1) CBW checks if a "creature card" was put into a graveyard, which tokens are not and (2) even if that did work, tokens cannot be returned to the battlefield. Reference DDR#34 for more details: th-cam.com/video/w7z-VoaFL74/w-d-xo.html
Lmao that last attempt at freedom, bro became a +1/+1 counter fr
I love this format. Just walk up to a random person in the street and ask him to explain layers
That's why Necrodominance refers to exiling tokens going to the graveyard.
I love rules questions in dangerous situations! If you ever find the chance to do more, I'd love to see!
A man is being squeezed to death by Ulamog, and you're asking rules questions instead of helping?!
It's the most important thing! th-cam.com/video/19MxHS3Imu0/w-d-xo.html
The tricky part is if there's a leyline of the void on the battlefield. Creature cards won't die, but token creatures will!
I like putting tokens in my graveyard and leaving them there. then my opponent says to remove it and I say "what token? it ceased to exist." 😂
Does/can anything interact with the fact that those tokens are in the graveyard before state based actions delete them?
hey can you explain why if you indomitable creativity into ulamog the defiler (with no cards in exile prior) ulamog enters with 10 counters by seeing itself?
See rule 400.6. The gain counters ability on Ulamog is NOT an ETB triggered ability (note the lack of "when"), it is a replacement effect, so you check what cards are in exile before Ulamog moves from exile to the battlefield.
Other cards that behave the same way are Walking Ballista and Clone. If their abilities were ETB triggered abilities, they would die to state based actions as they are 0/0 before gaining counters/stats.
Any flicker ability will also cause it to enter with 10 counters.
So what if I cast come back wrong on a token? (Destroy and return)
Would it be returned to the battlefield, because statebased actions can't be checked during spell resolution?
That is exactly how it would work except that (1) CBW checks if a "creature card" was put into a graveyard, which tokens are not and (2) even if that did work, tokens cannot be returned to the battlefield. Reference DDR#34 for more details: th-cam.com/video/w7z-VoaFL74/w-d-xo.html