Let me also state that as a believer, we should also represent Christ by honoring our debt and pay our bills. If a pastor tells you to pay your tithes instead of your bills, run!
@@icemanred Exactly. There are actually a lot of Christian pastors who will tell people that they are not commanded to tithe. On the other hand the crooks living in palatial mansions and flying in their private jets will manipulate the people who can least afford it to tithe. They actually tell them to pay their tithes before they pay their rent/mortgage, utility bills or buy food. They emphasize paying the tithe up front. You have to pay on your gross, not net income. After they force people to tithe they start begging for love gifts, alms, offerings, pastor's birthday, first lady's birthday, pastor's anniversary, church's anniversary, and everything else to get money. It's rare these days to hear a sermon about salvation.
Interesting. About 5 weeks ago I changed my prayers and attitude about the job He gave me. Instead of complaining like I had been, I started practicing gratitude. I began praying about being a good steward, thanking Him for Mondays, and telling Him everyday how much of a blessing it is to represent Him at work (I do legal work from home- nothing “ministry” related). Ended up getting a promotion I didn’t interview for and a substantial raise two weeks after my attitude adjustment. Haven’t “tithed” in 8 months. 🤷🏾♀️
@@philw9787No, and I never said I didn’t give. I said I don’t tithe. That’s why the quotation marks. I give 10s of thousands of dollars in free legal work to churches and leaders- me and God are good. Plus, I tithed for decades and stayed in financial stress until I started doing what I said I did. Thanks for your concern. 👌🏾
Most who think they are tithing are not. Tithing was food and produce, not money. I do believe we should support our ministries, but not by misuse of scripture, trickery or by pressure.
The tithing is fake, the ministry is fake, the building is fake, God created his church to be upon flesh and blood, humankind, what God made with his own hands, not what Satan made through mans hands, everybody got it wrong. This day God, Almighty God, I have not dwelt remained or lived in a building, a house, a temple, a synagogue, or a building called church, since I brought up Israel from the house of bondage, or slavery) unto this day: but went from tent to tent, and tabernacle, 1 Chronicles 17:5.
@@jason3000tt My brother, what you think God, Almighty God, want us to Repent for or from? Where at in the King James Bible, does God, Almighty God say he made a church out of bricks, with mans hands? But with flesh and blood right, Matthew 16;18?
I tithe because I choose to believe God's word. Jesus broke the curse of the law so now we have a "better covenant built on better promises ..." Keep the faith.😊❤
When you give with a cheerful heart God does bless you. It may not always come in the form of a check but if you bless the church God will bless you. I’ve tried and proven this.
@@jeremiahjones4224 you’re right but you are blessed if you give. People may hate tithing now because of money hungry pastors but it doesn’t change the fact that when you give tithes and offerings you are blessed.
@@jeremiahjones4224 that's true brother. But it's not a coincidence that most people are challenged in this area. Giving other things is often fine until it comes to money. That's why giving especially monetary is often an expression of your faith.
I remember speaking to my former pastor about some of my stresses in life over the phone. He then told me that I should give in proportion to the amount of blessing that I hope and expect to receive back from God. So many are manipulated in this manner. Thank God I’ve always had a mind of my own.
What is the church????? Matthew 16;18, Thou art Peter meaning a stone or a rock,(but flesh and blood), upon this rock (which is flesh and blood), I build my church (which is also flesh and blood), where did the building made mans hands come from?? God told us in 1 Chronicles 17:5, I have not dwelt, remained, or lived, in a house, temple, building, or church, since I brought up Israel (from the house of bondage, or slavery) unto this day: but have went from tent to tent. To me, Satan has tricked many people.
@@rodbrown8306 God loves a cheerful giver, like him! And flesh and blood, humankind the true church of God anyway; Satan deceived the whole world with this, Revelation 12:9, Isaiah 14:14. God made flesh and blood his church, with his Words and said, Go out into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15. Matthew 28:19-20, Teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I have told you.....
Pastor at the church get in a public chat and start calling me a thief. He said I know you have a good job. I rolled my eyes 🙄 and didn't respond. I have never asked him for anything. I keep to myself. I hadn't been in there in over 6 months
@@PastorRobert777 The tithe was ONLY for the Levites, the widow, the stranger and the needy. It was food NEVER money. Read Leviticus, Deuteronomy and Nehemiah.
Love Bombing from the Pulpit; he knew she was a new member. I hope she manage her money because if she ever got into bind again, she aint gone get no help especially no help from him.
But before the foundation of the world, God created his church to be in humankind, flesh and blood, Matthew 16:18; that's how it was for the prophets of old. Let me show you how the Spirit of God brings things back to our memory; in 1 Chronicles 17:4-5, God told his servant, who he spoke through Nathan, Go and tell my servant David, This said the LORD, Thou/you shalt not build me a house, temple or building. 5, I have not dwelt, remained, lived, in a building since I brought up Israel (from the house of bondage or slavery) unto this day. In this, God helped me to understand where his church was, because he made me study, and forget not what he hath told me. But to Go out into all the world and teach all nations or people, Matthew 28:19-20; And in Mark 16:15, Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. And we can't control the Holy Spirit or Ghost, until once or twice or 1 week out of a year.
@@BrettL250 Perhaps one should not insult a fellow Christian if in fact you are one. Also my nice retirement pension and 401K has ensured my income. You troll is rather droll.
@@KroMagnum4 You still need to work on sentence structure. I'm glad your financial security comes from yourself and your achievements. My financial security comes from God.
@@BrettL250 At this point in retirement sentence structures are the least of my concerns. And maybe surprisingly to you all I have is because of God. Especially after a 30 year career in law enforcement. God bless you and have good day.
@@rapmeister1000 I don't. I'm being a smarty-pants. Sorry but I can't help it. People who make videos like this and mislead so many people drive me crazy. Then so many people miss out on blessings and they are broke their whole life wondering why God doesn't get involved in their finances. The whole time they only have to read the Bible and God explains exactly how He will get involved with their finances. I can promise you this. If you don't at least tithe you will have zero involvement from God and your finances. It would be completely pointless to pray to Him about anything financial, including probably getting a better job.
This is awful. The church should not be policing how much in tithe/offering give or guilt people to give. Also, the church needs to teach people about financial literacy.
Creflo Dollar is notorious for that mess. He actually makes his congregation turn in their W-2 forms at the end of year so he can make sure that they're tithing properly. Terrible
Aboht a decade ago, I started honoring God daily with private prostration, feeling convicted that God wanted me too (Jesus and the prayer closet). I do also give generously, but I don't consider it to be a tithe. I have felt very blessed for several years now IN MANY WAYS and, if it doesn't continue, I will be okay with it or learn to be okay with it. God is awesome and I don't deserve anything. Funny how these are the only 'works' these preachers think are important. GREAT JOB ON YOUR VIDEO! :) Liked and Subscribed!
I learned this about 20 years ago and when I did I was criticized. It’s so bad in many church BUILDINGS and BUSINESSES in my area, that some pastors and/or governing bodies require members to produce their tax info at the end of each year. That way they can ensure a member has paid 10% of their income. One of the mega churches in the area does this faithfully. Once my half sister got sick and was in the hospital and nursing home for almost a year. She almost lost her house that she was almost done paying for. No one from the church was visiting her. No one was helping her navigate her situation with being denied disability. She cannot stand up and required a feeding tube. She did not seem to be in a great mind space, yet she was denied disability as they felt she could still be a TEACHER. She has hired a lawyer…and guess what…no one from church helped her pay the retainer. And she’s been a member of that church for at least 25 years singing in the choir faithfully and paying tithes. And I know this is not an isolated incident.
My brother, that's cause from the foundation of the world,we, people, flesh and blood, suppose to been the church..... Satan knew God's plan, so he made a building called a church......
My parents were devout working-class Christians who faithfully tithed 10% of their income. They are long retired now, and I and my siblings are having to support them. I wish they had invested that 10% and saved us from having to support them.
This church does more in the community and nation than any other church in this country. They do great mission work and they are major donors to HBCU’s. The mission work is done in this country and outside of the country. They are a great church.
that don't allow the pastor to lie the early church reached the world and they did not tell 1 person to tithe go study every thing on the tithe and tithing to see the truth and tell the pastor to repent for preaching tithing it was not preached by Paul of any preacher in the new t and when Jesus rebuked the pharisees he never said they tithe money and abram tithe the spoils of war and we cant find 1 ver were Abraham ever tithe again and not 1 gospel preacher received tithes in the early church and Mal 3-8-10 was never quoted or preached 1 time wake up were free to give what ever we want no law no curse to pastor lying to make himself rich
Bad doctrine and good works can coexist. However, tithing was for the nation of Israel. There is not one biblical reference for a Christian to tithe. Giving yes, tithing no. If you want to call giving a tithe if your paycheck a tithe, ok (not biblical).
You are absolutly right tithing is not for the church in the New Testament. The New Testament teaches freewill offerings. The Bible even says not to give money that you need (2 Corinthians 9:7). Furthermore, the Apostle Paul did not try to get money from people who did not have it too give, but a year later when they could give he told them to give, not by commandment, but in order to prove their sincere love. He also said that God accepts a person's willingness to give if they could, as if they had given, even though they could not actually give anything at that time. (see 2 Corinthians 8:8-14) God accepts the heart alone, just as much as He accepts the action. In addition, the widows, fatherless, and poor were never required to tithe in the Old Testament either! They actually received tithes once every 3 years (Deuteronomy 26:12). And te tithe was only of crops never money. That is why Jesus and the disciples never tithed. None of them were farmers. You could not tithe on money or even on fish. The tithe was only from the fruit of the ground of the land of Israel. This is why you also never see any thithes being given in Babylon. Many of these preachers are greedy of filthy lucre. The New Testament teaching of stewardship is to church leaders concerning church funds not to indviduals concerning their personal funds (luke 16:1-13). Peter even told Ananias and Saphirah that the money was theirs to do with what they wanted and they just should not have lied about giving all of it. So they were not required to give any of their money. They were only struck dead for lying about how much they gave, trying to decieve people and make themselve look good. (Acts 5:1-11) Also, Pastors are not to become millionaires off of church funds. The Bible says the elders who rule well are only worthy of double honour (the word honour in that verse means money). This puts a cap on the Pastor's salary. Even a good pastor should receive no more than double the cost of living for a family his size to live comfortably in his community. Therefore, if in the Pastor's community the cost of living for a family of his size to live comfortability is $30,000 per year, then the pastor should receive no more than $60,000 per year, no matter how big his church is or how much money is given to the church. And any deacons who rule well should be payed according to the same standard. If the church has a surplus of money then they should distribute it among the needy members of their church first, just like the first church at Jerusalem did, even to the point of paying off members' mortgages, if they just have so much money they don't know what to do with it. God does not want any of His people enslaved to debt, and Christians are commanded to seek to make each other wealthy. (1 Corinthians 10:24) Church leaders have a duty to make sure their congregants are taken care of. They are not to rob the poor and become rich off the ministry.
I'm ashamed to say that I've only learned about this tithing game about a decade ago, after having read through the Bible myself. Corey, you explain it well, especially about if you choose to be bound by one part of the Law, then we must be bound by the whole of the Law. And having your congregation fall more in love with God is perhaps the greatest version of commandment I think I've ever heard. Amen!
And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. Matthew 10:7,8.
Often today is about securing the family legacy. You can almost be sure leadership will be positioned to continue in their family even if their child is not qualified or has shown no desire to pastor a church.
Of course, and I'm glad you see that: don't to many people see that. After that we have to find others that believe the same, and be disciples of JesusChrist, and go out into the world: but people don't take that seriously; I told about 5 people on here that, and I lost them in that saying. I guess people rather the things of this world, than the things that be of God.
@@RepentOrPerishL133And just as your name say, If we don't repent, we will perish or die, Luke 13:3. How can we make a disciple or a believer like us, and people are rich with many possessions, like the story about the rich young man, who had many material things. Jesus told his disciples, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
I have heard this my whole life and in various forms. Some just like this guy in the video to others that supports your view in a modified way. What I love about this channel is you causes your viewers to ask the Holy Ghost to open our minds to the truth. I don't just take a person on TH-cam viewpoint as the straight truth. I do, however, know when I hear the truth and hope that God continues to bless you and your channel.
I'm not looking for a channel my brother, God did not send JesusChrist and his disciples to build a building called church; they were the church, flesh and blood, Matthew 16:18, 1 Corinthians 3:16, 6:19; Almighty God created it to be through what he made with his hands, humankind; and Satan used man to build buildings, so satan wanted his church to be what he made with hands, through man hands: Almighty God told us Satan said in his heart, I will be like the Most High (God), Isaiah 14:14.
Dislike his example? Tithing was for the nation of Israel, not the church. There is not one scripture commanding a Christian to tithe, but to give. However, if you want to believe that a tenth of your paycheck is a tithe, fine (not biblical). Give cheerfully!
Tithe teachers take select scriptures to push people to "tithe". As someone else has already pointed ut here that tithes were ALWAYS food. Jews who farmed or raised animals for food were the only ones required to tithe. I have NEVER heard a tithe teacher point out that tithes were only collected 6 years out of the seven year cycle. Exodus 23:10-12 10 “For six years you shall sow your land and gather in its yield, 11 but the seventh year you shall let it rest and lie fallow, that the poor of your people may eat; and what they leave the beasts of the field may eat...... Brother George
What he talking about! People got lights, and gas, and bills to pay in their own building, and Almighty God knows that, God don't even want us to do that; God really wants his people to come out these buildings, cause we still up under what man made, under the authority of Satan, and not God in JesusChrist, but God in JesusChrist told me this.
Cory I’m usually 100% with you but I’ve been a member of Alfred Street Baptist Church for almost 20 years. Pastor Wesley uses illustrations often. He’s also very open about the church finances and where they go… every year there is a public financial meeting. Every dollar is accounted for, the con artist and Mike Todd references in the comments are ridiculous!
May God in JesusChrist be with you: JesusChrist said, Come to me, he never said come to church: But upon this rock (which was flesh and blood, humankind), I build my church, Matthew 16:18. It's more, but, I don't want to force you to listen: I don't know if you still read your Bible. I have King James Bible, the Word that God tells you if you do for him, God will do for you, and Satan came to steal that, steal Gods worship, and he use God's creation to do it.
Glad this is brought up. We should never give or serve to expect anything in return. That is not the Christian way of thinking! God does not owe us anything. God is sovereign and He blesses us when He gets ready!
I grew up in a church where there were whole segments of the sermon about tithing. I was lead to believe it was a sin not to tithe. I’m so glad someone is being honest about this now. I understand supporting a ministry that spiritually feeds you, but flat out tricking people as if they will go to hell for not tithing is so wrong. Edit: It seems like this preacher took this little skit right out of the Mike Todd handbook.
I check out ASBC services pretty frequently. This example is out of the norm for Dr. Wesley's teachings on giving (so I'm thinking they just wanted to bless a single mother that day). 9/10, he teaches to give solely based on what God puts on a person's heart vs. a compulsory %, and has been on record critiquing the misuse of Malachi 3. This is a very generous church that gives liberally in scholarships to students, in gifts to colleges/universities, their surrounding community, and gave a $1 million donation to the African American museum that was built in DC a few years ago. While the video could possibly give off a wrong understanding, I think the larger point was that God honors faithful giving (although I agree it doesn't always manifest in material form and our utmost pursuit should be holiness and Christlikeness).
I agree with you, and I have not found a black church that teaches giving without coercion It's heartbreaking because it has caused me to isolate even from some Christian leaders that I truly love. They feel more important and proud by doing this to their members
JESUS already knew what was your Blessing before you came out of your Daddy Sack all you have to do is have sincere Love for him you got a roof over your head and food on your table you are Blessed Greed will get you every time
I appreciate this message. Unfortunately my mom bought us up in this way because of what she was taught but I thank God he has people who study and share His truths in the correct perspective. Will I stop tithing? NO. Will I share God's truth about tithing? YES. And let people decide if they want to or not. Thank you for sharing.
God's truth about tithing is its an Old Testament principle. Isreal was a theocracy (government and religion system one in the same) hence, the tithe was a type of tax unlike free-will offerings in the Old Testament. Hope that helps!
My brother, don't teach or let men do what God, Almighty God told you not to do 1 Corinthians 3:20-21, Chapter 4:7, God works through people, and yes, Satan copies; but what thou that thou/you hast received from God freely? 1 Corinthians 4:7. My brother, God wants to use us too, but how can he, if we don't break the chain of people being trained to go to a building, and Almighty God said, I have not dwelt, remained, or lived, in a building, a temple, house, or a church, since I brought up Israel (from the house of bondage, or slavery) unto this day, 1 Chronicles 17:5.
Well you should NOT practice tithing with money.... If you really want to please God you should use animals and crops.... That's what pleased Him in the Old testament...
@@BrettL250 and let me ask you did you understand what rhetoric was in high school or middle school or elementary School??? Oh I didn't think so either 😕😕😕
Well it is GOD who does it…Je uses others to give it to us. Let’s give God His credit. Now, I agree with you…GOD gives us back in MANY ways and we need to understand that. We need to GIVE however the Holy Spirit leads whether it’s time, money, a listening ear, service, etc and the LORD will give back as He desires! Amen Bro. Corey…He blesses us DAILY! I do tithe, but I believe that the Lord wants us to give as HE LEADS and often it IS more than 10%. 🙏🏽🙏🏽☝🏽✝️ (BTW, I am not a fan of John Howard Wesley in a few areas).
Wow. He doesn't even tell her this is of the Jewish law at all. He doesn't tell her about the other Jewish tithes to keep the theocratic system going. He gets the applause of men rather than God right away.
I heard this Pastor of a church give a testimony from a member that said she was in a car wreck and bc she was a tither the Lord spared her life… 🤔 so I said oh we paying the Lord to keep us now?! The church was so manipulative and I couldn’t stand it. I told other members about this and they didn’t/couldn’t see it. My family left and haven’t found a church since, that was over 6yrs ago.
I know God Almighty sustains us in more ways than one!!!!!! Ministers should never make promises to someone (especially out in the open) making a spectacle of that person could be very embarrassing. I understand he was trying to make a point, but that could have been done in private, like in his office with one or two other ministers present. We to support the work of Christ Jesus, not to get something in return. God bless you and yours brother Corey🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Words are powerful. Years of listening to negative words about being cursed with a curse if one doesn't give 10% of income to God ( church) --brain-washing, fear sets in, and even if a grester understanding or revelation is given, damage is done. Personally, I tithe, yet I make sure I budget my $$.. so I can help someone else with a couple of dollars if needed. I will not give in 9k offerings for this, that and third. I certainly will not try to buy a blessing from God. He can choose or not choose... So far, my Heavely Father had taken care of all my needs, and I believe he shall continue. He loves and cares for me/us. 😊❤
My mom is 85 and she stopped going to church before I was born. She said the pastor mentioned he didn’t want to hear any change in the collection plate and she was done with church and pastors. It took me 45 years to become a christian and these folks make me sick to my stomach.
The other thing is about the woman who was between jobs analogy is. Where did the money come from originally! All those gullible people in the church had previously given tithes to that pastor. So in effect the pastor wasn't giving any money out of his pocket but out of everyone there. So the pastor is on a winner anyway!
I am a 'Baptist Fetus,' in other words, I have always been in church. I used to feel that GOD didn't love or like me because I've never had a lot of money. It took a very long time to realize that I did not have to pay GOD to Bless Me. I am 68 years old now, start realizing more and more, that GOD didn't love me any less because of my income. This Pastor does not do what you are implying. You would have to follow and listen to him regularly. 🙏❤️
Giving Tithes is a Freewill Personal Decision to Give Sacrifice. But God said to give Sacrifices only in the place God Saintified. But God also said don't give your sacrifices in every place you see. Mainly because every place of Worship is not doing what God wants done with the Tithes. Deuteronomy 12:13 “Take heed to thyself that thou offer not thy burnt offerings in every place that thou seest:” King James Version (KJV)
I remember when my former pastor mentioned how much he paid for tithes and then pull out the stat sheets for the number of members who are paying tithes every Sunday. What’s interesting is that John Howard was his favorite pastor. So glad I left that church.
My brother or sister, I think you should leave all buildings called a church: Because for 1, God in JesusChrist build his church upon flesh and blood, humankind, Matthew 16:18; And 2, God, Almighty God told us in 1 Chronicles 17:5, I have not dwelt, remained, or lived, in a house, temple, building, or church, since I brought up Israel (from the house of bondage, or slavery) unto this day; 3, Satan said in his heart in Isaiah 14:12-14, I will acsend into heaven (it's 3 heavens, not where Almighty God is, Satan and his angels can not go back; had to make clear), or go up to heaven, I will exalt(or lift up) my throne above the stars of God (angels or actual stars, I can't tell, but God knows)...... 14, (Satan say), I will send(go up) above the heights of the clouds, (maybe it is actual stars, because Almighty God always put the definition of things, in the scriptures, or the next scripture, or close; I learned this from God himself; when God gave me a Concordance, and caused me to study to show myself approved unto God; and at the same time, I didn't know God would show things that I never knew, even people in the world .....). But Satan said in Verse 14, I will be like the Most High (God). 15, But God said, Yet will you be brought down to hell. My point is that God set up his church in flesh and blood, and Satan set up his church, with mans hands.
4:26 - I totally agree brother Minor. And the irony also is that by exploiting this woman's situation, and making a public spectacle of it to make his point about tithing, he's actually disobeying the Lord other commandment about not giving charity to be seen before men: "[1] Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven. [2] Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward" (Matt. 6:1-2).
For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer 29:11 (NIV). There is no mention of tithing. 6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 (NIV). Note, you always hear false prophets quoting verse 6 "cough cough...Pastor Winston Cuffie - Miracle Ministries, cough cough" but they will never quote verses 7-8
Tithing is one of the less dangerous things that Dr John Howard Wesley teaches. You should definitely check him out Corey to see all of the other false doctrines that he teaches. Great video!
If you give someone in need they glorify the Lord and pray for you. If you give someone who has enough they will call it success and write books about it.
8:18 Sadly a lot of people feel there is something spiritually wrong with themselves because they are not getting that pressed down shaken together and running over blessing. They think “maybe I haven’t been good enough,” or “maybe something is wrong with my heart even though I tithe religiously.” It ought not be so!
@Terencewhite 7614 Yes!!! You are absolutely right. Most people never bother to read the first 2 chapters of Malachi. Who starts reading a book in the middle 🤦🏾♂️. Chapter 2 starts with "And this admonition is for you priests " God never changes his object of admonition.
Terrancewhite7614 What is a tithe, tithes, tithing according to the Bible? If you think it is a tenth part of your paycheck, then please share scriptures to support your position.
They scare the hell out of people by telling them that they are robbing God by not paying tithes and offerings. Who wants to rob God?? He might zap you for that.
God gives us life. God makes our hearts beat. God died on a cross for us. What more do you want from Him? Do you follow Him for Him, or what you can get?? Check your heart posture. Joshua 22:5
Malachi 3:8-12 is directly from God and also tells how He will rebuke the devour off you so that you will be able to walk in security. He multiplies back anything you give. In other words, you get back more than you give. It’s not mandatory but it will affect your finances. Prevents struggling. In addition, you have favor in life. I walked it 20 years and I know it works. Homeowner, no mortgage.
I stopped with all of the shenanigans. I don’t give to God to get. Some pastoral leaders have said you are a fool if you give to God and don’t want anything back. I give because I love the God because of His goodness towards me. I don’t always give to the church. I also give to people who are in need. Sometimes I give to other ministries. We should give according to what’s in our heart
Glad you brought this up. This is not how God works. I've seen people that tithed and got nothing in return except further in debt and missed bills.
I “gave” off my credit card once 😅… wish I would fall in that line of ignorance again
This the one!
Let me also state that as a believer, we should also represent Christ by honoring our debt and pay our bills. If a pastor tells you to pay your tithes instead of your bills, run!
@@icemanred Exactly. There are actually a lot of Christian pastors who will tell people that they are not commanded to tithe. On the other hand the crooks living in palatial mansions and flying in their private jets will manipulate the people who can least afford it to tithe. They actually tell them to pay their tithes before they pay their rent/mortgage, utility bills or buy food. They emphasize paying the tithe up front. You have to pay on your gross, not net income. After they force people to tithe they start begging for love gifts, alms, offerings, pastor's birthday, first lady's birthday, pastor's anniversary, church's anniversary, and everything else to get money. It's rare these days to hear a sermon about salvation.
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Interesting. About 5 weeks ago I changed my prayers and attitude about the job He gave me. Instead of complaining like I had been, I started practicing gratitude. I began praying about being a good steward, thanking Him for Mondays, and telling Him everyday how much of a blessing it is to represent Him at work (I do legal work from home- nothing “ministry” related). Ended up getting a promotion I didn’t interview for and a substantial raise two weeks after my attitude adjustment. Haven’t “tithed” in 8 months. 🤷🏾♀️
God bless you sis!!!... I'm right there with you 👍🏿
Amen sis !!!... I feel the same way, God bless you 🙏🏿
Wow , this is a great testimony!
Start giving more, God Bless u!!
@@philw9787No, and I never said I didn’t give. I said I don’t tithe. That’s why the quotation marks. I give 10s of thousands of dollars in free legal work to churches and leaders- me and God are good. Plus, I tithed for decades and stayed in financial stress until I started doing what I said I did. Thanks for your concern. 👌🏾
Most who think they are tithing are not. Tithing was food and produce, not money. I do believe we should support our ministries, but not by misuse of scripture, trickery or by pressure.
well said......
Also it had to be recieved by the levites, in the place where GOD set his name. That is Israel
We have to understand that the Levites were fed off the offerings vs today pastors aren’t farmers therefore we have financial gifts.
The tithing is fake, the ministry is fake, the building is fake, God created his church to be upon flesh and blood, humankind, what God made with his own hands,
not what Satan made through mans hands, everybody got it wrong.
This day God, Almighty God, I have not dwelt remained or lived in a building, a house, a temple, a synagogue, or a building called church, since I brought up Israel from the house of bondage, or slavery) unto this day: but went from tent to tent, and tabernacle, 1 Chronicles 17:5.
@@jason3000tt My brother, what you think God, Almighty God, want us to Repent for or from? Where at in the King James Bible, does God, Almighty God say he made a church out of bricks, with mans hands? But with flesh and blood right, Matthew 16;18?
There is no tithe required for the Church, our giving is prompted by the Holy Spirit only!
I tithe because I choose to believe God's word. Jesus broke the curse of the law so now we have a "better covenant built on better promises ..." Keep the faith.😊❤
When you give with a cheerful heart God does bless you. It may not always come in the form of a check but if you bless the church God will bless you. I’ve tried and proven this.
Money isn't the only way to give.
@@jeremiahjones4224 you’re right but you are blessed if you give. People may hate tithing now because of money hungry pastors but it doesn’t change the fact that when you give tithes and offerings you are blessed.
@@mckinneyanthony250 Agree
@@jeremiahjones4224 that's true brother. But it's not a coincidence that most people are challenged in this area. Giving other things is often fine until it comes to money.
That's why giving especially monetary is often an expression of your faith.
I remember speaking to my former pastor about some of my stresses in life over the phone. He then told me that I should give in proportion to the amount of blessing that I hope and expect to receive back from God.
So many are manipulated in this manner. Thank God I’ve always had a mind of my own.
What is the church????? Matthew 16;18, Thou art Peter meaning a stone or a rock,(but flesh and blood), upon this rock (which is flesh and blood), I build my church (which is also flesh and blood),
where did the building made mans hands come from?? God told us in 1 Chronicles 17:5, I have not dwelt, remained, or lived, in a house, temple, building, or church, since I brought up Israel (from the house of bondage, or slavery) unto this day: but have went from tent to tent.
To me, Satan has tricked many people.
God loves a cheerful giver, it's what you feel free to do, you're his child, it's ok!
@@rodbrown8306 God loves a cheerful giver, like him! And flesh and blood, humankind the true church of God anyway; Satan deceived the whole world with this, Revelation 12:9, Isaiah 14:14.
God made flesh and blood his church, with his Words and said, Go out into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15.
Matthew 28:19-20, Teaching them to observe all things, whatsoever I have told you.....
Amen
Question! R u still attending that church???
This is his version of Let's Make a Deal.
The biggest SCAM in the world is telling people that if they don't pay their 10% subscription fee every month, God will curse them 😢😢
Pastor at the church get in a public chat and start calling me a thief. He said I know you have a good job. I rolled my eyes 🙄 and didn't respond. I have never asked him for anything. I keep to myself. I hadn't been in there in over 6 months
Your statement is mockery
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@@jasbury911 I can't take your input seriously if you don't explain why that's your point of view.
@@etuitivemillionaire It's good to remove yourself from churches with Pastors like that, but I hope you found fellowship elsewhere, it's important
I agree 100%, tithing should be out of love not law
It's not tithing it's giving . Tithe means 10th
@@PastorRobert777 The tithe was ONLY for the Levites, the widow, the stranger and the needy. It was food NEVER money. Read Leviticus, Deuteronomy and Nehemiah.
Thank you I'll try to remember that @@arnolddurant8180
@@arnolddurant8180Amen! Say it louder for the people in the back! 🙌🏽💖🙏🏽
This is why I love this channel, because it is predicated on sound Biblical Principles.
Love Bombing from the Pulpit; he knew she was a new member. I hope she manage her money because if she ever got into bind again, she aint gone get no help especially no help from him.
“Have them fall more in love with the Lord.” This was a great anti-manipulation message, Corey! Thanks!
Being a Christian for most of my adult life I should be a billionaire by now.
If tithing is the case I'm 63.
Perhaps work on sentence structure first. A decent income is sure to follow after that.
But before the foundation of the world, God created his church to be in humankind, flesh and blood, Matthew 16:18;
that's how it was for the prophets of old.
Let me show you how the Spirit of God brings things back to our memory; in 1 Chronicles 17:4-5, God told his servant, who he spoke through Nathan, Go and tell my servant David, This said the LORD, Thou/you shalt not build me a house, temple or building.
5, I have not dwelt, remained, lived, in a building since I brought up Israel (from the house of bondage or slavery) unto this day.
In this, God helped me to understand where his church was, because he made me study, and forget not what he hath told me.
But to Go out into all the world and teach all nations or people, Matthew 28:19-20;
And in Mark 16:15, Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.
And we can't control the Holy Spirit or Ghost, until once or twice or 1 week out of a year.
@@BrettL250 Perhaps one should not insult a fellow Christian if in fact you are one. Also my nice retirement pension and 401K has ensured my income. You troll is rather droll.
@@KroMagnum4 You still need to work on sentence structure. I'm glad your financial security comes from yourself and your achievements. My financial security comes from God.
@@BrettL250 At this point in retirement sentence structures are the least of my concerns. And maybe surprisingly to you all I have is because of God. Especially after a 30 year career in law enforcement. God bless you and have good day.
I been under this yoke for so long!Glad i left victory outreach,Thank you for this video
Woah was he any good outside of the teachings?
This is one of the reasons people don't trust the church 😔 God doesn't need money He wants our LOVE and OBEDIENCE
Besides, God really wants us to be broke and destitute anyway. That way we’re closer to him. It doesn’t hurt if we’re sick also.
@@BrettL250exactly where do you get that from?
So True and also it is causing people to leave the church
The old Bait and Switch Scam
@@rapmeister1000 I don't. I'm being a smarty-pants. Sorry but I can't help it. People who make videos like this and mislead so many people drive me crazy. Then so many people miss out on blessings and they are broke their whole life wondering why God doesn't get involved in their finances. The whole time they only have to read the Bible and God explains exactly how He will get involved with their finances. I can promise you this. If you don't at least tithe you will have zero involvement from God and your finances. It would be completely pointless to pray to Him about anything financial, including probably getting a better job.
Amen.Thank you for giving people the biblical way.
This is why I follow your channel! You share accurate information, no strings attached!
This is awful. The church should not be policing how much in tithe/offering give or guilt people to give. Also, the church needs to teach people about financial literacy.
Creflo Dollar is notorious for that mess. He actually makes his congregation turn in their W-2 forms at the end of year so he can make sure that they're tithing properly. Terrible
Yes
Aboht a decade ago, I started honoring God daily with private prostration, feeling convicted that God wanted me too (Jesus and the prayer closet). I do also give generously, but I don't consider it to be a tithe.
I have felt very blessed for several years now IN MANY WAYS and, if it doesn't continue, I will be okay with it or learn to be okay with it. God is awesome and I don't deserve anything.
Funny how these are the only 'works' these preachers think are important.
GREAT JOB ON YOUR VIDEO! :)
Liked and Subscribed!
I learned this about 20 years ago and when I did I was criticized. It’s so bad in many church BUILDINGS and BUSINESSES in my area, that some pastors and/or governing bodies require members to produce their tax info at the end of each year. That way they can ensure a member has paid 10% of their income. One of the mega churches in the area does this faithfully. Once my half sister got sick and was in the hospital and nursing home for almost a year. She almost lost her house that she was almost done paying for. No one from the church was visiting her. No one was helping her navigate her situation with being denied disability. She cannot stand up and required a feeding tube. She did not seem to be in a great mind space, yet she was denied disability as they felt she could still be a TEACHER. She has hired a lawyer…and guess what…no one from church helped her pay the retainer. And she’s been a member of that church for at least 25 years singing in the choir faithfully and paying tithes. And I know this is not an isolated incident.
My brother, that's cause from the foundation of the world,we, people, flesh and blood, suppose to been the church.....
Satan knew God's plan, so he made a building called a church......
My parents were devout working-class Christians who faithfully tithed 10% of their income. They are long retired now, and I and my siblings are having to support them. I wish they had invested that 10% and saved us from having to support them.
Wow that is so evil to say!
@@sanjoserock1. How is that evil? I’m stating a fact.
This church does more in the community and nation than any other church in this country. They do great mission work and they are major donors to HBCU’s. The mission work is done in this country and outside of the country. They are a great church.
that don't allow the pastor to lie the early church reached the world and they did not tell 1 person to tithe go study every thing on the tithe and tithing to see the truth and tell the pastor to repent for preaching tithing it was not preached by Paul of any preacher in the new t and when Jesus rebuked the pharisees he never said they tithe money and abram tithe the spoils of war and we cant find 1 ver were Abraham ever tithe again and not 1 gospel preacher received tithes in the early church and Mal 3-8-10 was never quoted or preached 1 time wake up were free to give what ever we want no law no curse to pastor lying to make himself rich
@@reginaldkearney8297 I joined this church last month your correct this church gives back unlike some mega churches
Bad doctrine and good works can coexist. However, tithing was for the nation of Israel. There is not one biblical reference for a Christian to tithe. Giving yes, tithing no. If you want to call giving a tithe if your paycheck a tithe, ok (not biblical).
You are absolutly right tithing is not for the church in the New Testament. The New Testament teaches freewill offerings. The Bible even says not to give money that you need (2 Corinthians 9:7).
Furthermore, the Apostle Paul did not try to get money from people who did not have it too give, but a year later when they could give he told them to give, not by commandment, but in order to prove their sincere love. He also said that God accepts a person's willingness to give if they could, as if they had given, even though they could not actually give anything at that time. (see 2 Corinthians 8:8-14) God accepts the heart alone, just as much as He accepts the action.
In addition, the widows, fatherless, and poor were never required to tithe in the Old Testament either! They actually received tithes once every 3 years (Deuteronomy 26:12). And te tithe was only of crops never money. That is why Jesus and the disciples never tithed. None of them were farmers. You could not tithe on money or even on fish. The tithe was only from the fruit of the ground of the land of Israel. This is why you also never see any thithes being given in Babylon.
Many of these preachers are greedy of filthy lucre. The New Testament teaching of stewardship is to church leaders concerning church funds not to indviduals concerning their personal funds (luke 16:1-13).
Peter even told Ananias and Saphirah that the money was theirs to do with what they wanted and they just should not have lied about giving all of it. So they were not required to give any of their money. They were only struck dead for lying about how much they gave, trying to decieve people and make themselve look good. (Acts 5:1-11)
Also, Pastors are not to become millionaires off of church funds. The Bible says the elders who rule well are only worthy of double honour (the word honour in that verse means money). This puts a cap on the Pastor's salary. Even a good pastor should receive no more than double the cost of living for a family his size to live comfortably in his community. Therefore, if in the Pastor's community the cost of living for a family of his size to live comfortability is $30,000 per year, then the pastor should receive no more than $60,000 per year, no matter how big his church is or how much money is given to the church. And any deacons who rule well should be payed according to the same standard. If the church has a surplus of money then they should distribute it among the needy members of their church first, just like the first church at Jerusalem did, even to the point of paying off members' mortgages, if they just have so much money they don't know what to do with it. God does not want any of His people enslaved to debt, and Christians are commanded to seek to make each other wealthy. (1 Corinthians 10:24)
Church leaders have a duty to make sure their congregants are taken care of. They are not to rob the poor and become rich off the ministry.
He and Mike Todd use the same preaching instruction manual 😂
It’s like he watched a Mike Todd “sermon”.
I was thinking the same thing lol
He did the same bit lol
I'm ashamed to say that I've only learned about this tithing game about a decade ago, after having read through the Bible myself. Corey, you explain it well, especially about if you choose to be bound by one part of the Law, then we must be bound by the whole of the Law. And having your congregation fall more in love with God is perhaps the greatest version of commandment I think I've ever heard. Amen!
And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give. Matthew 10:7,8.
Yay, nothing to do with money we freely give. But the context is that Jesus gave them power and authority, now give it away freely.
I've come to realize that the "church" is a business passed down from generation to generation.
A real church isn’t supposed to be a business. These people are disgusting
Often today is about securing the family legacy. You can almost be sure leadership will be positioned to continue in their family even if their child is not qualified or has shown no desire to pastor a church.
Of course, and I'm glad you see that: don't to many people see that. After that we have to find others that believe the same, and be disciples of JesusChrist, and go out into the world: but people don't take that seriously; I told about 5 people on here that, and I lost them in that saying.
I guess people rather the things of this world, than the things that be of God.
@@RepentOrPerishL133And just as your name say, If we don't repent, we will perish or die, Luke 13:3.
How can we make a disciple or a believer like us, and people are rich with many possessions, like the story about the rich young man, who had many material things.
Jesus told his disciples, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
There is a Business side within the place of Worship to build God's Kingdom on Earth.
Lord help us in this generation…..God does not need anyone’s money man does all Gods ask from anyone is obedience and faith 🙌🏾🙏🏾🙌🏾
Amen ❤
MOST Pastors in today's churches TRICK their members into paying tithes one way or another, and SADLY they don't even REALIZE it. THAT'S the SAD part.
That what happens when they don’t read their Bibles and listen to God but instead listen to their pastors. 🤦🏽♀️
I have heard this my whole life and in various forms. Some just like this guy in the video to others that supports your view in a modified way. What I love about this channel is you causes your viewers to ask the Holy Ghost to open our minds to the truth. I don't just take a person on TH-cam viewpoint as the straight truth. I do, however, know when I hear the truth and hope that God continues to bless you and your channel.
I'm not looking for a channel my brother, God did not send JesusChrist and his disciples to build a building called church;
they were the church, flesh and blood, Matthew 16:18, 1 Corinthians 3:16, 6:19; Almighty God created it to be through what he made with his hands, humankind; and Satan used man to build buildings, so satan wanted his church to be what he made with hands, through man hands:
Almighty God told us Satan said in his heart, I will be like the Most High (God), Isaiah 14:14.
So, you dislike the example he used. It was an easy example to follow. @ God use people to bless others out of their hearts.
Dislike his example? Tithing was for the nation of Israel, not the church. There is not one scripture commanding a Christian to tithe, but to give. However, if you want to believe that a tenth of your paycheck is a tithe, fine (not biblical). Give cheerfully!
Loved how you closed this Corey. Help them fall in love with God!!
Tithe teachers take select scriptures to push people to "tithe". As someone else has already pointed ut here that tithes were ALWAYS food. Jews who farmed or raised animals for food were the only ones required to tithe. I have NEVER heard a tithe teacher point out that tithes were only collected 6 years out of the seven year cycle.
Exodus 23:10-12 10 “For six years you shall sow your land and gather in its yield, 11 but the seventh year you shall let it rest and lie fallow, that the poor of your people may eat; and what they leave the beasts of the field may eat......
Brother George
Church finances is not equal to 401k. Excellent presentation and thanks for sharing.
What he talking about! People got lights, and gas, and bills to pay in their own building, and Almighty God knows that, God don't even want us to do that; God really wants his people to come out these buildings, cause we still up under what man made, under the authority of Satan, and not God in JesusChrist, but God in JesusChrist told me this.
Cory I’m usually 100% with you but I’ve been a member of Alfred Street Baptist Church for almost 20 years. Pastor Wesley uses illustrations often. He’s also very open about the church finances and where they go… every year there is a public financial meeting. Every dollar is accounted for, the con artist and Mike Todd references in the comments are ridiculous!
I enjoy the word being preached because I needed it
May God in JesusChrist be with you: JesusChrist said, Come to me, he never said come to church:
But upon this rock (which was flesh and blood, humankind), I build my church, Matthew 16:18.
It's more, but, I don't want to force you to listen: I don't know if you still read your Bible. I have King James Bible, the Word that God tells you if you do for him, God will do for you, and Satan came to steal that, steal Gods worship, and he use God's creation to do it.
Actually, this is the best version of the "Give and God will give back " scheme I've seen so far, good for her.
Glad this is brought up. We should never give or serve to expect anything in return. That is not the Christian way of thinking! God does not owe us anything. God is sovereign and He blesses us when He gets ready!
Obedience before sacrifice
I grew up in a church where there were whole segments of the sermon about tithing. I was lead to believe it was a sin not to tithe. I’m so glad someone is being honest about this now. I understand supporting a ministry that spiritually feeds you, but flat out tricking people as if they will go to hell for not tithing is so wrong.
Edit: It seems like this preacher took this little skit right out of the Mike Todd handbook.
I check out ASBC services pretty frequently. This example is out of the norm for Dr. Wesley's teachings on giving (so I'm thinking they just wanted to bless a single mother that day). 9/10, he teaches to give solely based on what God puts on a person's heart vs. a compulsory %, and has been on record critiquing the misuse of Malachi 3. This is a very generous church that gives liberally in scholarships to students, in gifts to colleges/universities, their surrounding community, and gave a $1 million donation to the African American museum that was built in DC a few years ago. While the video could possibly give off a wrong understanding, I think the larger point was that God honors faithful giving (although I agree it doesn't always manifest in material form and our utmost pursuit should be holiness and Christlikeness).
I loved his demonstration. What a blessing that was.
Where in the Bible is that demonstration?
Given supposed to be from the heart, in the new testament. A grateful heart.
I agree with you, and I have not found a black church that teaches giving without coercion
It's heartbreaking because it has caused me to isolate even from some Christian leaders that I truly love. They feel more important and proud by doing this to their members
JESUS already knew what was your Blessing before you came out of your Daddy Sack all you have to do is have sincere Love for him you got a roof over your head and food on your table you are Blessed Greed will get you every time
I appreciate this message. Unfortunately my mom bought us up in this way because of what she was taught but I thank God he has people who study and share His truths in the correct perspective. Will I stop tithing? NO. Will I share God's truth about tithing? YES. And let people decide if they want to or not. Thank you for sharing.
God's truth about tithing is its an Old Testament principle. Isreal was a theocracy (government and religion system one in the same) hence, the tithe was a type of tax unlike free-will offerings in the Old Testament. Hope that helps!
My brother, don't teach or let men do what God, Almighty God told you not to do 1 Corinthians 3:20-21, Chapter 4:7, God works through people, and yes, Satan copies; but what thou that thou/you hast received from God freely? 1 Corinthians 4:7.
My brother, God wants to use us too, but how can he, if we don't break the chain of people being trained to go to a building, and Almighty God said, I have not dwelt, remained, or lived, in a building, a temple, house, or a church, since I brought up Israel (from the house of bondage, or slavery) unto this day, 1 Chronicles 17:5.
It's good that I'm not the only one who think that tithing should be out of love not out of under pressure
Well you should NOT practice tithing with money.... If you really want to please God you should use animals and crops.... That's what pleased Him in the Old testament...
@@tiwanstrong1413 let me ask you something. Do you really believe that nonsense you just wrote?
@@BrettL250 and let me ask you did you understand what rhetoric was in high school or middle school or elementary School??? Oh I didn't think so either 😕😕😕
How about no tithing at all. Give sacrificial as God has blessed you. Free will offerings is New Testament giving.
@@anonymousreview1049 I agree
Well it is GOD who does it…Je uses others to give it to us. Let’s give God His credit. Now, I agree with you…GOD gives us back in MANY ways and we need to understand that. We need to GIVE however the Holy Spirit leads whether it’s time, money, a listening ear, service, etc and the LORD will give back as He desires! Amen Bro. Corey…He blesses us DAILY! I do tithe, but I believe that the Lord wants us to give as HE LEADS and often it IS more than 10%. 🙏🏽🙏🏽☝🏽✝️ (BTW, I am not a fan of John Howard Wesley in a few areas).
Wow. He doesn't even tell her this is of the Jewish law at all. He doesn't tell her about the other Jewish tithes to keep the theocratic system going. He gets the applause of men rather than God right away.
Was Abraham a Jew? How about Job? They both tithed.
I heard this Pastor of a church give a testimony from a member that said she was in a car wreck and bc she was a tither the Lord spared her life… 🤔 so I said oh we paying the Lord to keep us now?! The church was so manipulative and I couldn’t stand it. I told other members about this and they didn’t/couldn’t see it. My family left and haven’t found a church since, that was over 6yrs ago.
Yes! Because not many churches out there that’s teaching the people to give generously, it’s all about that 10 percent.
smh...how awful!
That’s pitiful!
I haven't paid tithes in years nor am I going to be pressured to do so..
If you do things for the kingdom of God desiring the wealth of this world you are of the world.
Amen! ❤
I know God Almighty sustains us in more ways than one!!!!!! Ministers should never make promises to someone (especially out in the open) making a spectacle of that person could be very embarrassing. I understand he was trying to make a point, but that could have been done in private, like in his office with one or two other ministers present. We to support the work of Christ Jesus, not to get something in return. God bless you and yours brother Corey🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Words are powerful. Years of listening to negative words about being cursed with a curse if one doesn't give 10% of income to God ( church) --brain-washing, fear sets in, and even if a grester understanding or revelation is given, damage is done. Personally, I tithe, yet I make sure I budget my $$.. so I can help someone else with a couple of dollars if needed. I will not give in 9k offerings for this, that and third. I certainly will not try to buy a blessing from God. He can choose or not choose...
So far, my Heavely Father had taken care of all my needs, and I believe he shall continue. He loves and cares for me/us. 😊❤
My mom is 85 and she stopped going to church before I was born. She said the pastor mentioned he didn’t want to hear any change in the collection plate and she was done with church and pastors. It took me 45 years to become a christian and these folks make me sick to my stomach.
The other thing is about the woman who was between jobs analogy is. Where did the money come from originally!
All those gullible people in the church had previously given tithes to that pastor. So in effect the pastor wasn't giving any money out of his pocket but out of everyone there.
So the pastor is on a winner anyway!
Amen,share the love of the word❤❤🙏
MOST HIGH... Your Word Is True & Thanks For Simplifying.Please Help The Body Of Messiah To Love & Treat Each Other RIGHT 🩸🙏🏿🙌🏿
I am a 'Baptist Fetus,' in other words, I have always been in church. I used to feel that GOD didn't love or like me because I've never had a lot of money. It took a very long time to realize that I did not have to pay GOD to Bless Me. I am 68 years old now, start realizing more and more, that GOD didn't love me any less because of my income. This Pastor does not do what you are implying. You would have to follow and listen to him regularly. 🙏❤️
Giving Tithes is a Freewill Personal Decision to Give Sacrifice. But God said to give Sacrifices only in the place God Saintified. But God also said don't give your sacrifices in every place you see. Mainly because every place of Worship is not doing what God wants done with the Tithes.
Deuteronomy 12:13
“Take heed to thyself that thou offer not thy burnt offerings in every place that thou seest:”
King James Version (KJV)
Pastor at my church would tell us that God will curse us and our children if we don’t tithe 10% of ALL our financial earnings I ran out of that church
I remember when my former pastor mentioned how much he paid for tithes and then pull out the stat sheets for the number of members who are paying tithes every Sunday. What’s interesting is that John Howard was his favorite pastor. So glad I left that church.
My brother or sister, I think you should leave all buildings called a church:
Because for 1, God in JesusChrist build his church upon flesh and blood, humankind, Matthew 16:18;
And 2, God, Almighty God told us in 1 Chronicles 17:5, I have not dwelt, remained, or lived, in a house, temple, building, or church, since I brought up Israel (from the house of bondage, or slavery) unto this day;
3, Satan said in his heart in Isaiah 14:12-14, I will acsend into heaven (it's 3 heavens, not where Almighty God is, Satan and his angels can not go back; had to make clear), or go up to heaven, I will exalt(or lift up) my throne above the stars of God (angels or actual stars, I can't tell, but God knows)......
14, (Satan say), I will send(go up) above the heights of the clouds, (maybe it is actual stars, because Almighty God always put the definition of things, in the scriptures, or the next scripture, or close; I learned this from God himself; when God gave me a Concordance, and caused me to study to show myself approved unto God; and at the same time, I didn't know God would show things that I never knew, even people in the world .....).
But Satan said in Verse 14, I will be like the Most High (God).
15, But God said, Yet will you be brought down to hell.
My point is that God set up his church in flesh and blood, and Satan set up his church, with mans hands.
Who is John Howard?
@@rayj.9568 My correction his name is Dr. Howard John Wesley. He’s the guy in the video
@@GracePreacher Thank you for responding.
@@rayj.9568 no prob!
Great job thanks 🙏👍👍
4:26 - I totally agree brother Minor. And the irony also is that by exploiting this woman's situation, and making a public spectacle of it to make his point about tithing, he's actually disobeying the Lord other commandment about not giving charity to be seen before men:
"[1] Take heed that you do not do your charitable deeds before men, to be seen by them. Otherwise you have no reward from your Father in heaven. [2] Therefore, when you do a charitable deed, do not sound a trumpet before you as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory from men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward" (Matt. 6:1-2).
For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future. Jer 29:11 (NIV). There is no mention of tithing.
6 Remember this: Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously. 7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver. 8 And God is able to bless you abundantly, so that in all things at all times, having all that you need, you will abound in every good work. 2 Corinthians 9:6-8 (NIV). Note, you always hear false prophets quoting verse 6 "cough cough...Pastor Winston Cuffie - Miracle Ministries, cough cough" but they will never quote verses 7-8
Amen Brother. I always thought the same. 👏
ALL OF THIS!!!!!!!! So so so good
Always great video's Cory really appreciate all your hard work learn so much from you.
Great point!
Tithing is one of the less dangerous things that Dr John Howard Wesley teaches. You should definitely check him out Corey to see all of the other false doctrines that he teaches.
Great video!
Message approved Corey 👏👏👏
If you give someone in need they glorify the Lord and pray for you. If you give someone who has enough they will call it success and write books about it.
Love don't pay the bills my brother! The rent man wants his money!
8:18 Sadly a lot of people feel there is something spiritually wrong with themselves because they are not getting that pressed down shaken together and running over blessing. They think “maybe I haven’t been good enough,” or “maybe something is wrong with my heart even though I tithe religiously.” It ought not be so!
Most wealthy people give 10% in donations. It's in their portfolios
Quick question, Corey: Isn't Malachi 3:8-10 talking about priest stealing the tithes not necessarily church folk not paying their tithes?
@Terencewhite 7614 Yes!!! You are absolutely right. Most people never bother to read the first 2 chapters of Malachi. Who starts reading a book in the middle 🤦🏾♂️. Chapter 2 starts with "And this admonition is for you priests " God never changes his object of admonition.
Correct
he was speaking to the people of Israel and the priest.
@@S_rod85 Where is he speaking to the people? Where did the subject change? What verse?
Terrancewhite7614 What is a tithe, tithes, tithing according to the Bible? If you think it is a tenth part of your paycheck, then please share scriptures to support your position.
They scare the hell out of people by telling them that they are robbing God by not paying tithes and offerings. Who wants to rob God?? He might zap you for that.
Absolutely & Amen!! 🔥🔥🔥
Glad for this
God gives us life. God makes our hearts beat. God died on a cross for us. What more do you want from Him? Do you follow Him for Him, or what you can get??
Check your heart posture.
Joshua 22:5
Nothing to see here. Absolutely brilliant presentation on the blessing of giving.. AND he blessed her in the process
Totally agree!
Amen ❤
Thank you Corey.
A cool gimmick and one blessed lady.
I hope they have funds set aside to assist those in dire need just like the churches of old.
This is horrible manipulation, I couldn’t have been either her father or a significant other. We would’ve returned all the money, and left that place.
They always quote that Malachi verse when they want to force you to pay that 10% subscription, and it's not cool😒
Good stuff 👍
Thanks!
I believe we should be giving our 10th. We should be tithing. Don’t let the foolishness keep you from giving what God told us to give.💯
You believe it why? Scriptures please, thanks.
It amazes me that Wesley believes the Bible when it comes to to tithing but not when it comes to Jesus being the only way
Malachi 3:8-12 is directly from God and also tells how He will rebuke the devour off you so that you will be able to walk in security. He multiplies back anything you give. In other words, you get back more than you give. It’s not mandatory but it will affect your finances. Prevents struggling. In addition, you have favor in life. I walked it 20 years and I know it works. Homeowner, no mortgage.
For those that want to sheppard and lead….that is a great question you asked. How do we get others to fall in love with the word
My favorite tithe hustle is : "Just give according to your faith" which means "You'll give us lots of money if you *truly* are Godly"
All that I have is not mine but I am the steward of everything God has given me. Your life is not your own neither is your money.
Amen😊
I've been a either all my Christian life. Malachi 3:10 is a promise thar works. It is a promise from God.
I stopped with all of the shenanigans. I don’t give to God to get. Some pastoral leaders have said you are a fool if you give to God and don’t want anything back. I give because I love the God because of His goodness towards me. I don’t always give to the church. I also give to people who are in need. Sometimes I give to other ministries. We should give according to what’s in our heart