Harrison Butker’s ‘Religious, Pro-Homemaker’ Speech BACKLASH, Morgan’s Latest Dr Visit | (Ep 23)
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‘Chief’s Kicker Harrison Butker’s ‘Religious, Pro-Homemaker’ Commencement Speech BACKLASH, Morgan’s Latest Dr Visit/ Baby Update | After Dark (Ep 23)’
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2:12 Chiefs kicker Butker commencement speech
10:00 Josh Benson pushes back on Butker
11:24 Morgan GOES OFF, pushes back on 'career woman' mindset
20:20 Awesome new couch
22:47 Morgan's doctor visit pregnancy update
25:10 We DESPISE BIRTH VLOGS NOW
30:05 A warning about upcoming video
47:28 Story behind Paul's iconic Maid Marian shirt
51:31 This happened to Paul at Target
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Hey PAMily, thoughts on Morgan’s passionate homemaker rant in response to Butker’s speech? There’s literally a petition to get Butker dismissed from the Chiefs for his “dehumanizing” remarks? Let us know where you stand :)
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I think Morgan’s rant (and Butker’s speech) had zero grace for women who aren’t blessed to have a husband and/or children yet, and for women who are called to singleness forever, and for women whose husbands fall sick, become disabled, or divorce their wives. None of those women have the option to depend on a husband financially, but Morgan and Butker say that furthering their education in order to get a good job to be able to support themselves is a waste and a diabolical lie? Zero compassion and grace in Morgan’s rant.
Discounting/discouraging women from pursuing education isn't just limiting to women BUT it can also harm us by preventing brilliant, talented women from serving crucial roles in our society. During my c-section, every professional in that room was a woman. My daughter was born healthy, my recovery was amazing. I'm glad they chose their profession and we've made progress in the past 100 years allowing women to choose their futures.
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I always thought I’d get married and have children. It was always my dreams so of course I didn’t go to college because like Morgan said “who needs it?”. Now I’m 30 years old, single with no children and at a low paying job and can’t afford to move out of my parent’s house and can’t even help them with anything (at this age, I should help them financially). Now I’m going to college for nursing. I learned the hard way. I always tell girls and everyone go to college!! Don’t make the mistake I made thinking a man will provide all of my needs while I sit at home!! Or get some kind of career.
Also if your husband gets sick, you should be able to provide too. There’s women who can’t leave abusive husbands because they can’t even make an income for themselves.
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My mom always told me growing up “never be one man away from welfare”!
I’m a lawyer, single and still living at home. I think it’s great that my job allows me to save money so that one day when I’m married I can stay home when my kids are little (if I want) and have some money saved up. Also I’m saving for my future in general. But I live in Canada and school fees are much more reasonable here than in America
Thank you! Yes!
I thought I’d be a stay at home mom as well…. But infertility struggles suck. Sometimes women don’t live the cookie cutter lives like you want them to. I’m a Christian and I think the Christian community needs to have more understanding on this topic. You are not less of a women if you don’t have these things ❤
Getting to stay home with your children is such a blessing. I'm so thankful that you get to do that. I was able to stay home with my daughter and homeschool her until she was 13. My marriage fell apart, and my husband and I divorced. It's a long story, but I did not want the divorce. I never would have dreamed that I would end up as a single mother. Thankfully, I had a degree, and God provided the best job possible for me as a single mom. We can't predict the future. It's good to be prepared. If I hadn't had my degree, I would have had to work much longer hours and more days during the week to make ends meet. Education is important for many reasons. You can have your education, and still choose to be a stay at home mom and housewife.
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👏 this. And I hope you are doing okay 💜
@cashwalk7253 Yes, I am...thank you! God always provides.💖
Where I live you cant afford to even pay rent unless you have two incomes. Anything under $2400 a month is in neighborhoods in open drug markets and gun violence. That doesnt even include utilites or food or health care.
Once you have kids, theres diapers, clothing, school supplies, field trips and sports.
Its a LUXURY to not HAVE to work to raise your family.
Bless you. Wish more people looked at your comment. That's the sad reality with the way the world is now, with the prices of things, with the fact that we even have to pay too much to live in deplorable conditions. There's no good balance, no good quality anymore. It's just not the same as in the 60's per say.
So it is and would be very nice if woman could stay at home and take care of the kids, but that's just not the reality for a lot of families. Gotta do what we gotta do and there's no shame in that.
Unfortunately it's completed and depends heavily on individual situations whether it's possible for one spouse to stay at home with the kids. I feel for you, I would suggest moving as your area's costs of living sound absolutely ridiculous, but I know that's easier said than done. In Iowa and many other areas of the Midwest it's a lot easier to get ahead with rent prices under $1k a month and nice single family homes for under $200k. Across the river in IL we paid $80k for our first home back in 2015- 1200 sq ft 3 bd 2bth with a basement and 2 car garage on half an acre. There's a lot of ways to save money. It's all about money management, not buying what you cant' afford, regularly sacrificing comfort and nice things. That's what usually has to happen when deciding that one spouse stays home with the kids. If living circumstances don't allow for it, then something has to change.
@@cslapler007 For 1K we can live in a slum where there is open air drug dealing, shootings so no one can play outside and zero yards. Only a front stoop with 3 steps to the street. The schools in those areas are terrible with violence you cant even imagine and very few kids succeed under those circumstances.
Look up the differences between whats decent where you are and the reality of whats going on in Baltimore. Even areas of Baltimore County are bad.
And to move to the more country areas requires out of pocket expenses that are included in taxes like trash removal which not only requires one to find a contractor, but you would have to pay by the pound and/or transport it to the dump yourself.
I was a young mother and didnt have a license or car until my mid 20s and even then I could not find anything reliable that would pass inspection so I had to find a used car lot and car payment. Things are much different on the east coast/big cities.
@@JustSheilz I'm very sorry to hear about all of what you have to deal with, that all sounds awful. Ya Baltimore is definitely not great- I had a cousin who lived there for a couple years studying for her doctorate and then got out as soon as she could.
No vehicle inspections here and we take our trash to the dump once a month for $10.
@@cslapler007 I live in a pretty decent neighborhood and the schools my kids went to were good. My two oldest even went to college and my son went to trade school.
All because I could help support my family financially.
I’m struggling with the way Morgan is being so callous about women who are not able to be financially supported by a man. If a husband becomes sick, or disabled, or passes away, or divorces her, and now suddenly the wife is the one who has to financially provide for her family, it is incredibly difficult to do that from scratch, going from a stay-at-home-wife-mother without any education or experience in the working world suddenly having to figure all that out. And America is not the only country in the world. I live in South Africa where the rate of unemployment is sky-high.
I’m conflicted, I’m blessed to be a SAHM but my mom was a SAHM too (we were a Christian family with these important values) but my dad left and she ended up having to work 3 minimum wage jobs to survive with 3 kids. That was my reality and a lot of people’s reality too. How things “should” be is one thing but we do live in a broken world and I think it’s wise for women to have a backup plan in case the life they’ve dreamed of comes to a crashing halt, God doesn’t promise us a perfect life.
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Bold words from two people with nary a college degree to rub between them.
My job provides the health insurance that pays for the medical care that keeps my husband's heart condition from killing him, and keeps my autoimmune disorder from destroying my body.
My mom was one of those women who was wildly successful in her career, and then stayed home when she had kids in her 30s (because she wanted to and my dad made enough money for that to be feasible). But does that means she should’ve just not worked for those 10+ years & hopped right into having kids? Absolutely not!! Maybe, just maybe, some woman may *enjoy* the work they do….
Exactly. Hence, the reason they chose to go to college in the first place -- they had a passion for a particular field of study
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I don’t think Morgan was referring to women who leave their full time careers once they have children. Just be careful going into debt to pay for college because your mama heart may be turned towards home when you have your first baby. 💗🙏
@@Amy_Mi6 exactly!! & because of that, my parents have raised very strong women who have all gotten degrees & are working toward success in our careers (that we love!). I am very thankful to have examples of both.
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As a working mom, I LOL when millionaires brag about their house wives…
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Actually you know what would help so that women could stay at home with their kids? Universal healthcare, I am sure Paul and Morgan are against that. I have known lots of people who have to work just because the job provides health insurance. Would you guys support universal healthcare if it meant more women could stay at home with their children? Or are you too freaked out by “socialism”? Also, it appears from what I have seen Paul’s parents have money. I am guessing P & M have never struggled financially, they enjoy economic privilege and white privilege
Most countries with universal healthcare require everyone to work. There are no stay at home moms. Women may get extended time off after having a baby but then are required to go back to work. As it is the US has way to many freeloaders on welfare to support, most countries don't have that either.
Does anyone on medicaid like the quality of care they get? Do you enjoy going to the DMV? If the government is in charge of healthcare, the quality of care will go down dramatically. Canadians come to the US to get care because it can take months to get an MRI, cancer care, etc.
And in many European countries people are still paying extra for private care, because the quality is so bad otherwise. There are so many improvements that can be made on the current healthcare system, but Universal Healthcare is not the answer.
But many Americans go to places in Europe to seek care because the access here in the US is bad if not worse, people have died because they didn’t have insurance or stuck in medical debt. I’m not saying the Canadian system is perfect by any means but people have coverage, and those European countries have paid maternity/parental leave which helps families immensely which the US mainly does not have. Also side note we have wait times in the US too where people have waited weeks or months to see a specialist, so we definitely need a universal form of healthcare in some form! I respect your opinion though :)
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People die in those countries too because they don't meet criteria or aren't important enough to receive care.
America has a horrible system with the insurance companies currently in charge of everything, but Universal Healthcare will not make it better. Plus the US provides almost all funding for Europe's security. If we stopped that, most of their public programs would cease to exist.
Larger corporations should offer better parental leave benefits, but mandates like that just harm small businesses.
@@abh9926 how do we know universal healthcare wouldn’t make things better? If you look at polls done in the UK and other European nations, almost everyone in those countries would want to keep the universal healthcare.
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Satisfaction rates aren't always the best metric, especially if the service is "free." There are second world countries with free healthcare and high satisfaction rates. If you look at actual health outcomes in the US, that is where you see much better results with cancer and other issues that need immediate action.
I am a believer, but i still found his speech problematic. He says to the female graduates-using his wife as an example-that basically the degrees they just worked so hard to earn are basically placeholders until they become homemakers. He doesn’t just talk about homemaking as being important, but he elevates it above working and education, in a way that i think is 1) insulting on what was such a significant day for these women, 2) curious, because he doesnt tell the men being a husband is more important than THEIR degrees, 3) doesn’t take into account that not everyone will be married and have children, so why would you tell someone their life won’t truly begin until something happens that isn’t guaranteed?
@@noelleleader because he himself and his wife don’t have a degree. They want to feel better about themselves by making others feel bad about their degree. I guess Paul and Morgan are just jealous of people who actually worked hard to get a proper education. Everyone can f*** 24/7 and make stupid yt videos, but it takes a lot of effort and dedication to get a proper job and have a respectable career.
I can't wait to see what christian womyn think about being a homemaker with no ability of making a living when their husbands leave them at 40+. Look at the stats for christian marriages end in divorce.
My life started long before I met my husband. I’m happy to have my career and to be able to contribute to our household. I am whole and happy with or without him.
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This!! Butker says in his speech that his wife’s life only began once she got married and became a homemaker, that she will be the first to tell people that. 🤦♀️ Our life should begin with Christ, not man. And women are just as valuable as men, married or not. Butker’s speech says that women don’t have anything to contribute other than homemaker, so did he want all the women who were graduating to move back into their parents’ house until they meet a Godly man and get married? What if that only happens when they’re 45 years old? Or never?
Morgan saying… oh now I have to go to work to pay off debt excludes those who had scholarships. What about a man who prefers to stay at home and take care of the kids while their wife goes to work? It’s more nuanced than the black and white perspective given.
I met my eventual wife at work. I was military, she was a career track DOD civilian. I followed her overseas, we married, I found a job on the economy. After our first child I took an off-shift job and we hired a home child care person for the couple of hours of overlap. I worked part-time when we went overseas again, was able to take my daughter to my work with me when she wasn't at school, otherwise I would see her off to school and pick her up after she was released and walk home with her. My wife worked national security at the embassy where we were both employed. She was recognized for her excellence and was promoted a couple of times reaching the highest level achievable in federal civilian service. After she gave birth to our second daughter and we moved overseas again I stayed home and continued preparing our meals, cleaning and helping raise our daughters. My wife didn't stop mothering at all during this whole time. She was a very involved mother with our daughters. I went on field trips, helped out at both our daughters' schools, was on the board of our overseas younger daughter's pre-school, also on a PTSA side committee helping out with education in all elementary grades, and a lunch monitor. I helped coach the baseball, softball, and soccer teams they were playing on. I enjoyed being involved with my daughters education and extra-curriculars the whole time. I believe our daughters benefitted from having me involved and seeing their mother achieve the goals she earned while she was also able to enjoy home life with her children. We knew other couples who had similar relationships that worked remarkably well along our journey.
I know this cannot be achieved by all spouses/parents but I worked very well in our relationship. The thing is, flexibility should be available to everyone.
Right, like I had a full ride for undergrad and now I’m in grad school with another full ride with a stipend. So far I have fortunately not had to take out any loans.
I wanted to get married young and be a homemaker, but went to college because I knew I would have to provide for myself until I found a man. Been working in my field for 5 years and still haven't found a godly man yet. So don't forget about us ladies who want to be married but haven't found the right man yet!
Also, it's getting more common even for Christian guys I'm going on dates with to say they want their wife to work while raising kids, which is a bit annoying to now have to defend why staying at home is worth the sacrifice.
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Why do we need to put prescriptions on people/families. Some families want to set up their life structure where one parent stays home to look after the kids, maybe they will have less income but the set up aligns with their goals/values. And other families want both parents working, maybe that means they will have more income but less time. Different things suit different people and their situation. We don’t need to try and convince people to our way of thinking, on which ever side that is. We should let people decide on their own goals and values, then help them achieve their goals rather than making our goals their own. Hope that makes sense 😂
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I want a godly man who is present enough to make a home with me-not just select me as the decorator. It’s OUR home-WE should make the home TOGETHER.
I felt like the speech was done purely just to feed his ego. HE got so much attention for it, BUT what about the women who graduated and worked hard for their degrees? It's fine that he has these opinions, but he definitely knew what he was doing. He didn't really make that speech for the graduates. He made that for himself and he got what he wanted, especially with quoting Taylor Swift who's ambitious and older than 30 and still isn't a mother. 🙄 He saw his buddy Travis Kelce get a whole bunch of attention and now he wants some too 😅
To any mothers struggling with infertility or the death of a baby - I see you and I strongly recommend not listening to this or Harrison Butket’s speech!!
My first baby died at 8 days old. The weight of grief over his death and the pain of returning to work without a baby to care for was cruel enough. This type of damaging message that women’s lives don’t truly begin until they have children to stay at home with and care for is so harmful and absolutely incorrect. I thought you would’ve understood this, Morgan. Laughing off the fact that “you do have to work until you get married and have children” is not an acknowledgment for this community.
As a practicing Catholic, I do not stand with Harrison Butker and his statements.
Thinking of you 🩷
Thank you for sharing your story and I'm so so sorry for your loss.
Thank you for sharing. Very powerful message. 💜
Listen, I’m Catholic, my mom was a stay-at-home mom who homeschooled all her kids, and I consider that she undertook the most important work in the world by devoting herself to her family. I also believe the world is indeed luring women out of the home to pound the pavement. With all that being said, heavily implying and pretty much saying to an audience of singles “your life doesn’t begin until you marry and are having children,” is very offensive and a damaging narrative. Though people want to get married, it may not be in God’s plan for them at that moment or even in the end, and that should be taken into consideration. With Butker’s way, you’re just leading them down a dangerous path of believing that their singleness is a wasted life. This is a really sensitive topic for young people wrapped up in all sorts of unfulfilled longings, so I wish he hadn’t been so brash with his statements. He should’ve at least accompanied that with an acknowledgement to singles that God’s will is present in every stage of their lives, and He can call you to different things throughout these many different stages of life, instead of leaving it with the feel “your life is ‘less than’ before you enter your magic vocation.” As a fellow Catholic, I’m not very impressed with this man. He gives a “my way or the highway” kinda feel.😅
Also, just my thoughts regarding college-my mom got married pretty much right out of college. She’s a college graduate with an education steeped in theology and philosophy. So I wouldn’t say you waste your time getting a degree if it doesn’t go “directly to a career”, since college shouldn’t just be about “How is this going to make me rich?” but rather educating the whole person-mind, heart, and soul. Education for the sake of education shouldn’t be scoffed at. College made my mom a really well-rounded and even wiser person.
That’s the biggest problem I had with the statement. I lost 3 friends in their late 30s early 40s last year. All of them wanted marriage. It didn’t happen for them. Yes I badly want to get married, but I don’t want to waste my life waiting for something to “happen.” Life is too short for that.
I also find it funny that the kicker lecturer spoke at a school that was partly founded by nuns.
@@cashwalk7253 Exactly! It's a big desire/pain point for many. (That irony you mentioned last is funny. I didn't realize that!😂
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Thank you for writing this. It’s the most balanced, well-thought-out posts I’ve seen related to the Butker speech debacle. Yes, being a SAHM is wonderful if you have a family and are in a financially stable environment, but Butker told the graduating women in the auditorium to stay in their lane and be a homemaker because their life only begins when they’re married. I hope with all my heart that he didn’t mean to say it like that. I hope that just he isn’t self-aware enough to realise he lumped all women into the same “homemaker” category, whether they’re married or not, and also not self-aware enough to realise how misogynistic he sounded without putting in more information to clarify what he was trying to say. I’m turning 40 this year and I have not been blessed with marriage yet. If I done what Butker tells the graduates to do and put my life on hold after high school while I waited for a man to make me a homemaker, and didn’t further my education in order to be able to get a satisfying job and support myself, that’s 21 years and counting that I would be on hold, gathering dust and draining my parents’ resources and patience while I keep living with them and depending on them to support me while I wait to start my life by becoming a homemaker. It’s just such an utterly ridiculous speech he made. The issue is he said it so confidently, so he looks like a misogynistic arrogant millionaire in his 20s who hasn’t lived enough life yet to try impart his “wisdom” without looking like a fool.
@@theaveragejojo9711 Thank you very much! I really appreciate that.☺ I heard other people's respones touch on some of these things that I thought were really good. I didn't appreciate how Butker tried to make things so black and white and without any nuance--especially considering that this came from a Catholic, and we Catholics greatly look up to certain individuals who were single and/or lay that lived amazingly virtuous, meaningful lives. I think people like Butker would make a better impact by speaking with grace, sensitivity, and humility and applying certain beliefs more carefully and specifically.
I like how Morgan suggested just picking your degree back up once your kids are grown. Like, ok, lemme set aside that dental degree and step away for 25 years... I'm sure the industry will look _exactly_ the same when I come back lol.
_love you, Morgan, but sometimes you do be dishing out some silliness_
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Morgan has never been to college, she has no idea what she’s talking about. Her vision of adult life and responsibility is incredibly childish.
In what world can two people plus a children have a home and pay for all the necessities on 30 K a year? I’m just wondering where is this place because I’m definitely moving.
You do you. I would never tell all people of any particular gender, ethnicity, etc that I know what is best for them because of what group they're in. Goofy.
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We live on my husbands income of 40k, I love raising my son but I won’t make it out like it’s easy. We can’t afford to buy, are having to rent hours from family (and our friends / support system) in order to afford to live. Even then we have to budget on food and can’t go on holidays etc, I can understand why people wouldn’t choose this but I do feel it’s worth it for us!
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Oh Morgan that is such a skewed way of thinking about family dynamic. Of course it’s important to have parents or guardians present but if they can live a better quality of life by getting a second form of income then what is the problem? Why do you need to make working women sound so unethical? You literally just expect women to start setting up a family when they leave school. Both my folks worked and I would go to after school club, and I was absolutely fine.
It’s not necessarily skewed. It’s natural for moms & babies to want to be together. Some moms do need to work & I’m glad you had a good experience. However, the more a mom can be present to parent the better ( there is scientific research to back this) especially in the young years and also at other crucial stages of development- like the teen yrs for example. To parent is a high calling and there are many times you need to physically be there in order to truly parent.
@@kristinmac4559 It is pretty skewed. Like I said it is important to have someone present to nurture the child, but getting a job shouldn’t effect that too much. The mother would usually work while the child is at school but even so, they do not be to joined at the hip all day long. When I was a teenager, and think I can speak for many teenagers, you don’t necessarily want to be with ur parents all the time, I certainly didn’t.
Yah my parents both worked but we spent a lot of time together as a family. I had a great childhood. I don’t get why people demonize working moms so much
I believe the message given is very black and white. People should do what makes them happy. Whatever a women wants to do should be lauded. That is true feminism. I believe the graduation speech was tone deaf like read the room?! 😅
I’m guessing you’re not a Christian then. Doing whatever makes you happy is not what the Bible teaches. It is more about humility, sacrifice, and putting others before yourself.
@@tammysue637 "It is more about humility, sacrifice, and putting others before yourself." Sure some parts of it are, but other parts portray the complete opposite. Do you consider the genocide god ordered on the Egyptian babies as an example of humility?
@@tammysue637 so you willingly want to be miserable and have other people be miserable with you? what kind of worldview is that? shouldnt we strive for fulfillment?
Literally disgusted by this lmfao. Two well-off Americans telling others to sacrifice various things and not strive for a nice house or a college degree, as if you didn't have both of those things already. Practice what you preach, otherwise you'rejust two hypocrites 🤷♀️
Neither paul nor morgan have a college degree
I learned a trade from my father, a bi-vocational pastor, so that i would have an in demand skill. I never wanted to go to college, and my parents knew it would be unwise to send me. They didn't want me feeling like i was wasting a degree when i had children. I have a highly skilled trade that i use when i want money or when i need to help out with the bills.
What trade did you learn?
@@jordanrhoades5502 I learned the painting trade! My dad did drywall and painting, and we had a small business together. I pick up side jobs now when I want some extra cash or to help with bills. It's been great!
Daycare is super healthy for kids. They are much better socialized. And their moms are healthier for having stimulating lives.
Young babies and children don’t need “socialising”, they need their mother. Most children cry when dropped off, and they are bringing home a new sickness every second week.
My cousins son (1 yr old) has been in hospital 4 times since starting daycare only 3 months ago…. That could’ve been completely avoided
Why have children to just send them away so mothers can have “me time”
Motherhood is hard. Motherhood is sacrificial. It’s time we all took up our cross more often
I understand every family is different & some have no choice. That’s completely different
That’s just something that people who use daycare say. It just isn’t true. Kids who don’t use daycare have moms who are usually very involved in their churches and communities and with other moms who have kids and do playdates. I don’t mind if people say daycare doesn’t harm kids, but don’t say it’s better for them. If a child has a loving mom, nothing is better for than them being under her care and watchful eyes. My friend had a toddler who was abused at daycare and that child was never mentally or physically the same. Strangers don’t love our kids more than we do….and sometimes they may do them harm. Socialization can be found anywhere in the world. Don’t send your child to daycare just for that!
My daughter goes 2X a week to a private eco school from 2.5 years-4 yrs & I have to UNTeACH HER the bad habits and attitudes she learns from other kids
We lived on one income while we raised our 4 kids, one adopted, which cost A TON. We never had the finest of things, but we have a very comfortable life, and my husband works his butt off in a blue collar job so that I can stay home and not pay someone else to raise our kids. Our oldest is now married with a little boy, and we are doing everything we can as an extended family unit to help them live on one income so my daughter-in-law can stay home and raise this precious boy. It CAN be done, and more young people should hear it praised and encouraged. I love that he said what he said.
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I was raised in the 70s and my dad had a great job but my mom still had to work in order to afford life. Their home cost $11,000 and today townhomes in a 'decent' neighborhood are $250,000+. Even on two salaries this is just not feasable where we live. And no we cant move because travel/gas costs would make it just as expensive or wed live in terrible unsafe neighborhoods.
@@JustSheilz I was raised in the 80s and my dad didn't have a great paying job. He was a bi- vocational pastor, being paid nothing from our tiny church for years, and supporting our family of 5 by doing drywall and painting. My mom stayed home and homeschooled us. Just saying.
@@lydiabouts8572 And if you could get by in Baltimore without living in a drug and crime infested neighborhood on that, Ill applaud.
LOVE Y’ALLs videos!!
BUT…😂 also some parents feel a call on their life *from God * to do their chosen career AND be a parent. That is possible. Hello it’s 2024 😂 you can be a good & present mom - or SAHDad - while having a job/career too.
Seriously I love these conversations, so thank you!
Awe, love you too☺️ Thanks for weighing in!
I 100% support Butker. I got my nursing degree only to pay the bills until my first baby is born (January 2025). I agree with you guys, people can downsize and make it work with one income. God provides! Thank you for covering this!
That ending is my fave part of this whole video 🤣 with Morg lip reading Paul & singing 🤣🤣👏🏼👏🏼
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I had issues with his speech but specifically as a whole I think it’s important to encourage everyone but women specifically to have something to fall back on. It doesn’t have to be a degree but a skill or trade so if they need to leave the situation that they are in they aren’t only reliant on their spouse. This is how people get trapped in bad situations and can’t leave.
True but it’s too bad that many women don’t feel that they can turn to the legal system,family or church family for support in the event of some tragedy or abandonment by their husband. The Bible tells Christians to be there for these women/children.
I would advise not getting into DEBT to pay for college if at all possible but going to college and having an education to utilize even if it’s just at a PT job is definitely not a bad thing for anyone.
Where I live, it is almost impossible to find a 1 or 2 bedroom place for less than 1300. We don't live in a big city either, just a town in the deep south.
I am separated and don't know how I will live on my own. I was forced to go back to work, but I don't make much money. And I have a degree.
Young women NEED something to fall back on in case of tragedy in a loving marriage or tragedy because the husband is a jerk. ¹
I used to watch you guys years ago. I remember the hate comments. Happy to see you pop on my feed again. God bless the three of ya. 😁
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I had a successful VBAC in January 😊 prayers and best wishes for your delivery
I LOVE YALL!!! But…😂 there are also people (I know you understand this) that are going to live their lives & try for kids at the same time, not just wait around to have kids that may or may not come. That group obviously is 100%justified in continuing in their field while waiting for marriage & kids. Wouldn’t you agree? They can’t just wait around in life.
I think the NFL is handling Harrison just right - they basically said they aren’t responsible for stuff their players say off the field. If he wants to be a Christian and voice conservative views, that isn’t wrong. If you’re going to judge the guy, judge him on how he’s playing. If he starts missing field goals, then I will be an angry Chiefs fan.
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Morgan, I love that you shared that Judah was having the hiccups! Both of my now adult daughters often had the hiccups when I was pregnant! You brought back special memories! Also, ~love the wall paper! ~Made me lol to hear about your wall paper removal process!
Thank you for another excellent video! Congratulations to Carl! Praying for your family of 4! 🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️❤️
Something else to add ( might be adding more as I hear more). I think there is also things to say on the other side of the coin like working woman inspire their children sometimes. Like Morgan, she's a working mom on this channel and I'm sure that takes more than a few hours a week. I bet her children will look at that and see her work ethic and passion as inspiring. I think there is a difference between parents ( both mom and dad or whatever parentinal figures look like in that family dynamic like dad and aunt or something ) being a workaholic and not prioritizing family vs being passionate about what they do but putting family first. For example this mom I know. She is her churches secretary. Works full time but still is at every event her boys do at all their award assemblies does youth ministry volunteering to be with her boys. She has a strong marriage ( married like 29 years). She loves her job at the church doing ministry and helping others while also having a strong bond with her boys and husband.
I'm only a few minutes into this but I think it's important to remember that everything happens in God's timing. I personally don't think there's any timelime for women to get married or to be homemakers or be career women or both. Like Mary's cousin Elizabeth didn't have her child until way later in life because that was God's timeline for her. Everything is in God's plan and our job is just to be in continued communication with God to make sure we're following that plan.
Exactly. And sometimes that life doesn’t include marriage or kids. People can leave behind incredible legacies nonetheless.
98% chance for a VBAC is AMAZING! I had two c-sections and wanted to try for a VBA2C. I had a 20% chance, but I did it! TWICE! (Apparently every birth after a c-section is called a VBAC even if you’ve had a natural birth already). I did it completely natural both times and the second time was the homebirth of my dreams 🥰 you got this Morgan! 🤍 praying for you guys!
I’ve been saying this to my Christian friends… you see how the enemy is getting much more blatant & out there with the wickedness? We need to be bold like a lion. Light is much more powerful than darkness. It’s time to stand
Are you saying it’s blatant wickedness to be a woman who isn’t a homemaker? Or are you saying that Butker’s speech is blatant wickedness?
Ok NOT telling you how to hE your baby!!! But just sharing they say hospital is almost impossible to vag birth they just aren’t set up for it. I had my son as a birth center and genuinely I will always have at birth center it’s so nice your get your own room and Tun and ropes and balls it’s just so set up like a home but with the ability to be at the hospital if needed so many midwives around and you get holistic care like delayed cord clamp skin to skin and blah blah just everything also having NITROUS OXIDE allowed me to have my baby literally so that it all! Love y’all
When Morgan said, "Who needs it?" I nearly BUSTED out laughing out loud at work in my office setting! I won't necessarily agree with that sentiment because I think a married woman with a career is admirable still, but, and I believe that this is what Butker was going for, it's FAR MORE IMPORTANT to be there for the family!
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Best Disney Song. Eye to Eye from The Goofy Movie. Hands down. Robin Hood is also the best movie.
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I have a 2 year old names Gracie Marie. She is a firecracker. Love it!!!
Butker said that his wife would be the first to say that her life only truly began when she got married… which completely diminishes her life from being born until her wedding day. Even if he didn’t mean it that way, that’s what he said. If he meant something different, he should have said something different, or added more to make it clear he isn’t being a misogynist. But the speech as it was said is very misogynistic. God made men and women equal in his image. I am not yet married because I only started dating my first boyfriend 1.5 years ago, and I’m 39 years old. I would have loved to have been married and had kids, but it was out of my hands. I hope my boyfriend (who is also a believer) and I will get married, but I have been living my life as a child of God, and I absolutely disagree with Butker’s statement that a woman’s single lane in life is homemaker and that a woman’s life only begins when she gets married and has kids. Does he want Christian women to put their lives on hold waiting for a husband? To not educate themselves, to not get a degree and a job, and rather live with their parents until they one day meet the guy they’re going to marry, and only then does their life start?! My life started when I was born, and then it started again when I was born again and baptised. My identity is in Christ, not in a man. Butker’s speech made it sound that a woman’s identity is in her husband and her kids, not in Christ. So no, I did not appreciate his misogyny (whether it was intended or not.)
Harrison was pretty savage ( & as a Christian SAHM of course I loved it! 😂) Josh was too harsh- He’s missing the greater point of Butker’s remarks. I think Paul is correct Butker could’ve addressed the fact that the average couple will have to sacrifice to live off one income but the sacrifice is worth it because Motherhood is a beautiful calling from the Lord!! Morgan knows what she’s talking about!
Young ladies-Don’t downplay how much your kids will want & need their mom! Daycare can’t substitute for a child’s own Mommy!!! If you commit yourself to a full time job you’re giving the last part of your day & energy to your family. Your heart will long for your children & you’ll have to shut down that part of you to some extent in order to focus on your full time job.
If you dream of & desire raising a family be careful about spending your best childbearing years climbing the corporate ladder only to find out you might be struggling to get pregnant if you wait till your biological clock is running out.
If you’re planning a family-I would pray that God would reveal to you a way for you to work from home or work part time.💗🙏 You won’t regret being there for as much of their childhood as possible.
Morgan bless you for peaking this truth. Genuinely I feel like a weird old Grammy for thinking this way but I believe it’s the holy apirit
I feel like womanhood that is elevated in the Bible shows females who prioritize their household, while simultaneously earning some income (Prov. 31). I've seen so many women yearn for motherhood and being a wife, but them find themselves so unfulfilled and commonly depressed (not everyone, just many). Likewise, in my own life, my husband is in ministry as a church planter and my income is important to our livelihoods. All that is to say, I agree that women prioritizing their homes and families is Biblical. I disagree with the idea that women shouldn't be working (you didn't promote that, but some Christians do.) I have 2 jobs as an online teacher and make 3 times what my husband makes in half the time. God can provide opportunities for women to work and supplement income in their family. Also, I'd argue Godly womanhood is productive in contributing to the household - in both monetary and non-monetary methods. Thanks for the awesome content! I look forward to your videos every week and I'm praying for a smooth birth.
Great comment, thanks for sharing🙏
I work as least as possible 6.5 hours ! We lost some income resently so i may have to take on more hours but we are trying to get along without it and get tighter with spending worst case it will be 3 hours more ! I think its ok to work with young children as long as its part time and your kids are cared for by other family members i dont see an issue and when there a little older like 3 a small christian preschool is totally fine in my opinion
Appreciate you sharing :)
Amen Morgan, you are spot on sister.
Hey sorry I haven't been on in awhile life's been crazy
I was trying to take a pause from TH-cam and I actually erased my account not realizing it would delete everything
Welcome back!
A wish worth making is a great Disney song too
Have my baby Unmedocated
Is paul on the worship team? The sing at the end
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In response to 12:45 I am a sahm and my husband only makes around $40,000 a year. We drive old cars live in a small space and don’t always eat the most organic but I’m able to raise my kids. I have a 1 year old daughter and a son due in July. I wouldn’t trade it for anything.
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Morgan you have a beautiful voice. Please sing more often!
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If you want to homeschool, I would strongly discourage a degree in education and encourage a degree in a content area that interests you. I say this after more than a decade in the belly of the beast, a graduate school of education in Boston.
I agree. I'm a stay at home mom of 2. We live off of my mechanic husband's income. Sure, we live in a fixer-upper house, don't drive new cars, don't have a boat or cottage, we don't go on a lot of expensive vacations, but we live very comfortably! And I can guarantee that my children much prefer me here with them to kiss owies and rock them to sleep than to be raised by a stranger in order to have all those things. They will learn how to work hard the way we do. Both my husband and were homeschooled and loved and appreciated our childhood! I can't imagine if my mom left others to raise me! I wouldn't be who I am today, and not for the better!
But remember that’s your personal experience, that’s not going to work for everyone. You need to take yourself out of your circumstances and see people don’t have the ability to homeschool or live a decent family life on one salary. Where I live houses and bills are very expensive and in those cases we are better off having both parents working. My mom worked throughout a lot of my growing up and I was not affected in any negative way because of it. She worked when I was at school and she was there for all the necessary parts of the day.
@@ohuntermc9321 I understand that! I was only sharing my experience. But there definitely are options even if it requires sacrifice. It all depends on priority! Is it someone's priority to have a career? Then that's what they'll do. Is it priority to homeschool their children? Then that's what they'll do. Is it priority to live in an expensive state or neighborhood? Then both parents will work in order to stay. Is it priority to live off one income? Then they will move, downsize, live without some things, etc... And that's our priority. It's not for everyone, although I personally believe that those are way God designed families to operate.
@@canalawrence9878 That is a very simplistic outlook. Again, homeschooling and living off of a single wage packet is not something really accessible where I live or in many other parts of the world. We have a housing crisis and we need at least two forms of income, it’s just the way it is. For me it did not bother me that my mom worked, and I think we had a better life because she did. She worked labour type jobs to make our family life better, it wasn’t about chasing a career. There should be a good balance between your family life and career, the two can coincide well if handled properly. I know many believe the way you believe because of your Christian upbringing, which I absolutely don’t share, but talk to Christians in my community and they will tell you what I’m telling you. The perfect family dynamic idea you have is unrealistic for many, you have to realise that.
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Amen yes I’m one of them woman that believes being home with my children is of the most importance
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So nervous about the New Evangelicals video, as I'm always pretty horrified by what Tim posts! However, I also believe that this video can be a very important tool on how to handle difficult conversations, and I trust and hope I can benefit from it😊
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Does morgan believe people shouod sevd there kids to public or christian school or only home school apoligies if you have discussed this in the past
We’re big fans of homeschool/ small Christian schools if possible :)
@@PaulandMorganChristian homeschooling sounds like a terrible form of education. Being schooled by evangelical Christian parents is not a healthy way to bring up a child. It’s basically a tactic to ensure the child learns to believe the same way they do and prevents them from getting any other points of view you get from public education.
@@PaulandMorgan that's great 👍 I just wondered out of interest :)
@ohuntermc9321 my kids will go to a christian school but most of our family and some of our friends are not christian so I don't see it as a huge issue they will still have opportunities to be around non christian kids.
I taught at a small Christian school for 5 years. The freedom to be able to speak about the gospel etc was fantastic, but the quality of teaching was hit and miss because teachers were hired because they were Christian rather than because they were good teachers. My cousins and my best friend went to a small Christian school their entire school life, and their relationship with God was great (though so was mine, and I was in a big secular school), but I noticed that none of them knew how to talk to people who weren’t Christians. They didn’t have any non-Christian friends, and they didn’t know how to tell non-Christian people about Jesus until they were adults and were actually in the world, interacting with people, making friends with people other than fellow Christians. So I decided that if I ever become a mom, I don’t want to send my kids to a small Christian school. A small school would be preferable to a big school, but I want my kids to be like Jesus and spend time with the lost and be a shining light. Saying that, I don’t live in the US, so that might be a deciding factor since some policies regarding what is taught in US schools now is a bit scary.
Doug Wilson? 🎉🎉🎉
MORGAN! I ❤ love input on the stay at home mother debate 💯 agreed 👌🏼💘
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God bless him best speech ever, just ordered T-shirt 🙏🏻✝️👑🌹💍🕊️✨
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Family of 5 living off of one income 50 thousand a year a lil more with overtime. We make whatever sacrifices are necessary. I've been a stay at home mom for almost 9 years.
I can’t watch Josh anymore. Had to skip that part. I don’t believe he’s even a Christian at this point.
He impersonated Butker well, and basically portrayed an average privileged southern american evangelical christian/catholic man.
It's disgusting to me how many listeners are devaluing a mother's role in the lives of her children. A higher standard of living is better than a mother in the home?
While no one should shame a woman for choosing to be a housewife, nor should they be shamed for wanting have both children and a career as long as she is able to balance the two of them well.
"A higher standard of living is better than a mother in the home?" Both are very important so should not be a question which is better or worse. Why not go in-between? My mother worked when I was at school and I would be in after school events or clubs until she came home. She was there most of the time, so we got the best of both worlds essentially.
@@ohuntermc9321 I think it all depends on how old these children we're talking about are. We absolutely should not be choosing to put our children in daycare so that we can have a higher standard of living. That's really sacrificing them...I have very strong convictions about that. If you place your children on one side of the scale, and your career on the other side, and your children don't outweigh your career by A LOT, something is WRONG.
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All these stay at home moms got useless degrees…
Amen Morgan!!
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The thing I discovered is that a lot of women don't want to stay home with their kids. They are not prepared for this. It's too difficult for them. I know it from experience.
@@iritvyskocilova6155 I think it’s because they don’t have the desire to live a cage life, which is understandable. Not every woman wants to stay at home cleaning and cooking 24/7 and depend on a man for their life. Being independent is the best thing you can be as a grown woman!
I bet $100 Josh will deconstruct and leave the faith in a few years. He unfortunately seems to be going that route.
As his jersey sales skyrocket
Love your new house 🏠 ❤
32:23 I’ve interacted with Tim before. Sorry, but he’s not someone I can truly call a brother, if I’m being completely honest. I really tried uniting, but I can’t confidently call someone who is openly blasphemous a brother in Christ. I can’t lie to you guys. But, I hope and pray that he genuinely repents.
Regardless, I’m sure he’s cool to interact with in person, but maybe think twice before platforming someone like him.
We get into a lot in this video🙏
They aren’t platforming him. Not enough views for that. You also don’t get to decide if someone has repented or not.
@@subwatch I’m not deciding anything. The guy has openly said in previous interviews that he doesn’t pray, doesn’t believe in the Resurrection, doesn’t attend church, and is LGBT-affirming. Am I in the wrong for not calling him a brother? You figure that out.
@@sethmiller8984Agreed 💯
@@sethmiller8984 Did you watch the interview?
Morgan is on fire! 🔥
I agree with butker his speech is great. greatest college speech ever
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Why was it great? What was so spectacular about it?
"i know all of you worked very hard for this, but now let me tell you whats more valuable: something completely unrelated" it really isnt great, its very tone deaf. imagine having all your hard work devalued like that just because of what parts you were born with. humiliating
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Wokes gone mad 😂