@@naganut9718 what, getting salty or making fun games? 800k players on bg3 then 1.8 million on palworld says the games must be fun, and aaa dev responses regarding just those two games shows them being salty.
@@theautomaticfiend no I mean I don't really see how they get mad. Nintendo isn't even the dev team, they're just publisher for Pokemon. And Gamefreak too many cash to even bother, the only reason the game was investigated by gamefreak is due to the designs because the dev can't help but plagiarize design so they can have 100+ creatures in their game
“I can’t believe that a gamedev would tear down another gamedev ” First time? The drama from the H0D devs towards Elden Ring was absolutely nuts! This is basically standard for AAA devs who get scooped.
AAA game devs are a special kind of salty on Twitter. "Ugh, these games are too good! They're screwing up the bell curve we get graded on. That's actually bad for the industry and they shouldn't be celebrated for their achievements, they need to cut it out!" The delusion and cope...
idk, all those videos about 'dev hate towards elden ring' was based on like one or two statements that weren't even that bad. Was hugely overexaggerated
working for a software company for 20 years and learning their version control was a bunch of USB drives just kills me. lol. I just hope that their success keeps them moving in the correct direction but adopt some industry stuff to make things easier on them but never step away from the fact of making games fun for people is their main goal.
This games uniqueness is the fact it's a mesh of existing genres, then boiled the best ingredients that made those games fun into a soup. Then gave the soup a gun. And it was delicious.
(I'm at about 7:30, so it might be covered) the Pokemon company put out a statement regarding (paraphrasing) "a certain game released recently". My theory is they put out that press release to say "Yes we know. Stop emailing us."
Not like it has something to do with your comment but. Recently,the pokemon company deleted over 300+ comments on their most recent community post for basically 0 reasons,including one that reached 1K likes... thats an really sad situation because they are basically deleting people's opinions and its wrong. Whats your opinion on that?
@@RoboVenturerI mean, how does one dev an entire working game without knowing that source control exists? Obviously it happened, but I am clueless how someone can make a polished working game without knowing git exists.
@@thomassynthsbecause most the people involved didn’t know how to make a game and apparently most didn’t know how to use Unreal Engine. Kinda makes sense to me that they have no idea how to do streamlined development.
@@thomassynths they clearly hired the right people, they go into more detail in their blog they made a few days before the game came out. Translation is a bit rough but the story is pretty cohesive and properly detailed, even if some of the details sound pretty out of there, but stranger things have happened in game development history.
I think this game definitely is like pokemon, because no one actually cares about pokemon's gameplay. What is "pokemon" to people is the character design philsophy which is why this game blew up so much, because people have been wanting a "pokemon" game without the same repetitive game design they've been doing for so many years. The people who actually enjoy monster collecting JRPG gameplay just go play shin megami tensei. Personally I think the Palworld devs did a great job giving the *feeling* of pokemon designs without just ripping it off.
Yeah I agree with you, very few people wanted the same old gameplay. People just wanted a new way to experience Pokemon , to feel more immersived in the Pokemon world Pokemon never delivered, and now palworld has provided the most immersive 'Pokemon' experience to date. I don't mind that the designs are so similar it helps me forget that I'm not playing Pokemon
it just looks a bit like it but its an entirely differnt genre of games. and to me pokemon is not character design philosophy, but rather its the gameplay so stop putting words in my mouth
@@vodkawhisperer3923 well. To me Pokemon was the movies I grew up watching, the games I grew up playing , I even joined on PokeGO just because I love the IP. The comp scene is cool, but I always hoped they would wow us with some new way to play, I got so excited with Arceus and then as soon as I got to scarlet I just dropped the game since it felt like a regression.
@peanutrule Then speak for yourself, not everyone else. I've enjoyed the game mechanics for over 20 years. Having an Arceus like game is fun from time to time. They spent twenty years fine tuning the RPG aspects of the game. Why the hell would they change it completely?
I hope this turns out to be the timeline where Nintendo not only DOESN'T file a lawsuit, but allows for a Switch version of Palworld. I really want this to be a full-on success story for those devs.
@@americankid7782 the mod for the game supposedly got nuked, along with anyone even showing footage of it, within an hour, so think its safe to say they would already have intervened if they had a case here
@@theSwift715 Its more of the devs at GameFreak don't know how to optimize, if Nintendo can make some of the games run on the switch like Hogwarts legacy I believe they could make PalWorld run on it but the problem will be will the devs want to spend the time on it. They more than likely wait for whatever the next Nintendo console to come out. (if nothing comes from this "investigation")
Also the pals are literally people who died and “reincarnated” idk the exact way they become pals, but the way u appear in palword and the first npc and logs state that this is a afterlife of some sort?
Linux as we best know it today was initially written from scratch based on someone's understanding of Unix. This was taken to court but they actually survived it precisely because it wasn't lifting any code, despite being close to an exact copy in functionality at the time.
8:42 if you think about it hiring people this way actually makes more sense than the more typical methods. That is assuming they went there and interacted enough to get to know the kid. Everyone one says they are passionate about this or that but it is a lot more obvious if you spend time talking to someone about things. Buckets of USB drives as version control sounds like a nightmare but also not as bad as it sounds but it depends on the details. It is turns version control into a manual process and very space inefficient. It is "save scumming" while making the games instead of while playing it.
Based on my llmited knowledge of US copyright law, the worst that is going to happen is that a few of the Pals might be redesigned. That doesn't mean Nintendo won't sue, and it's easy to go bankrupt winning a copyright defense case. The fact Nintendo already C&D'd the pokemon mod for palworld shows that nintendo probably knew about the game prior to that. I think they'd already have taken legal action if they were going to. None of the designs fail the 'squint' test -- meaning that the differences between conflicting designs are different enough that it won't cause confusion. Different shapes in some cases, different color palettes in others -- I don't think any of the designs are infringing. If anything Pocketpal will agree to change some designs so that Nintendo can crow about an IP law "Win" to maintain their reputation.
The guy didn't say he modified the mesh, he said he scaled it uniformly. Which is what you need to do if you want compare meshes. If I scale a mesh it doesn't make it a new one.
If you scale down a mesh enough, you can fit whatever into whatever. People called him out on that, because the meshes clearly did not overlap enough, he shrank it down to the point it would fit into the pokemon mesh so it would look more convincing.
@@KrakkkNo, but if you scale a rectangular prism, you can fit it into a cube. And they are not the same thing either. The point people made is that he scaled them to the point where one fits into another ~ish... there were clear differences, but they got ignored because he scaled the models to the point where one fit into another, and then handwaved any difference as a coincidence.
I played Pokemon as a kid and left it far behind. I was wondering if Palworld was actually good and not just “Tik Tok” trendy vibes … glad to hear it’s actually good.
What is "Good" is very subjective. I get the feeling adults flock to this because they have wanted something that reminds them of Pokemon but isn't made for little kids. Palworld seems made for 12 year-olds but I guess that's close enough for Pokemon-adults.
03:00 if the scale is off originally that's not really a point. I can double the size of a picture too, still won't make it mine. The models are all eeeerily similar, the whole art direction is like on point Nintendo-esque. I'm not defending Nintendo at all, but it's CLEARLY a rip off. A fun rip off.
1:43 I don’t really agree with that. Healthy inspiration means building off Pokémon’s philosophy of design, or perhaps building off the design concept of a specific Pokémon. Basically remaking the design of Luxray, or straight up recreating Venusaur’s flower and sticking it on top of an original design… That’s not necessarily theft if you ask me, but it’s not really healthy creative inspiration, either. I would tentatively call it creatively lazy, but I’m not quite sure. This method of “sampling” specific design elements from another IP is undeniably a new phenomenon in gaming, and people are trying to decide how they feel about it.
Imo it’s a fusion of legends arceus (the least Pokémon Pokémon game. And one that went in the right direction imo) And ark. Plus a few unique stuff thrown in! Like having them craft or make stuff is so amazing
@@puddingsimon2626 yeah but what im saying is in conan you capture people andmake them work at your base on various built structures & complete tasks for you. the rest is more like ark but that feature is straight from conan exiles.
That "buying multiple flash drives to preserve multiple versions of stuff" is something that I did when I was in school for a project. We were just a bunch of kids and was strapped for time and have no idea how to manage versions so we just made multiple copies instead. So now seeing them do it for this game and received great success is filled me with so much complicated emotions. It made me feel ashamed of dropping a lot of stuff just because of a small pebble tripped me in my journey of learning/doing something. They also opened my eyes and showed me that sometimes, you should just go for it, learn on the way and improve one step at a time
The Serperior comparison would probably have worked better with Dragonair honestly. Pokémon literally started as a digitised version of a childhood pastime of Japanese kids, bug fighting. Yeah stop comparing to cockfights kids, they're different things though both are cruel. Part of why TLoU Part 2 isn't doing as well too is Druckmann's blind support for IL has driven off some of the studios defenders finally as well, and this isn't speculative we were clear why we were done.
Yeah but some of the comparisons in general were still stretches. Besides. Even if some are similar it doesn't mean it was entirely intentional, and it's early access so it could be easily fixed instead of people bombarding the dev company with hatred and vitriol over 3D monsters
People are talking too much about "defending nintendo" when the most important point of the conversation should be the bad practices of their company. They have no creative intent and Hollow Knight is their next target; not an AAA company, Team Cherry is completely fucking indie.
"They have no creative intent" and yet, they are the only open world, survival monster catcher game no other company has done it, which is literally the defintion of original, doing something no one else has done 🤷, keep coping
@@unknownunknown-cd7rx Let me try to translate this for you. You know how Genshin Impact was accused of being a copy-paste of Breath of the Wild? And how its creative intent was what saved it because the game has its own IDENTITY? It has its own style, its own unique world, with its own unique story and characters and plenty of mechanics build from the groud up through inspiration from hack and slash games. Then we have Palworld. It's Pokémon with guns. It has no identity, and it doesn't even have a style. They just took a popular game and mixed it with survival mechanics that people like because it's profitable. There's nothing wrong with you enjoying the game on its own, everyone enjoys some junk food sometimes. But defending those creators is... an interesting choice
@@ellicavalcante7850 "It has no identity, and it doesn't even have a style." again, if that was even slightly true, NO ONE would buy it, which people obviously are, they have 8million sales on steam ALONE "plenty of mechanics build from the groud up through inspiration from hack and slash games." neither breath of the wild or genshin have unique art styles or unique mechnics, they BOTH took insperation from eariler games, from other companies, hate to break the news to you lil kid, but EVERY company takes insperation from other games, video gams have been around for a LONG time, every single idea has been done, every new game is just rehashing old ideas, aka taking insperation your entire argument is "every game AND every movie is allowed to take insperation from eachother, but palworld? no palworld is not allowed to do that, because i dont like palworld, because of lies ive been told on twitter"
Palworld sucess seems like the iPhone in 2007. They aggregated good ideas that worked well individually but nobody tried to mesh them before. They made a new thing that is innovative in the area and just works, i.e. is fun!
I'd say not new but unique/different in a way that a lot of people are obviously enjoying. Hats off to pocket pair for doing a good job taking what they learned from craftopia and iterating on it to end up with such a successful game.
I'm afraid the issues this game has is going to be ignored because people keep focusing on the wrong things; it's either blindly hated or blindly loved. So much misinformation and people talking as if they're an expert despite barely understanding how modeling, ai and game development works. There's alittle bit of that in this video to be honest. I keep seeing people getting a translated interview about Crafttopia mixed up thinking it was about Palworld for instance. This isn't their first game and they aren't as Indie as they are making themselves out to be, it's not a small team. I've been playing it on Xbox Game Pass (which is quite buggy), it's really bare bones with a memory leak at the moment but has potential. There's no depth to this game, it's nothing new beyond the capturing, which I do enjoy. There are some more unique pals that look nothing like Pokémon; I wish they had gone with a more distinctive style that sets at least most of them apart. The name is a little ridiculous, people are probably going to call them Pokémon over pals on accident. So much of the style clashes in game for me. The game looks good despite some of the clashing styles but everything looks good on Unreal Engine. It is possible they used AI for concept art but there's no way of knowing and no poof. We can have a discussion about this without being ugly and rude, otherwise no one will take you seriously. There is some shady stuff worth looking into. Looking at the model for Azurobe, it's clear that they either traced, referenced or changed up the model for Primarina, the tiers in the hair doesn't make sense on Azurobe because the hair ties that make it that shape on Prim are missing on Azurobe. Perhaps they couldn't make the deadline, and this is what they came up with. It also almost looks like they took the nose off of Primarina, enlarged it and stuck it on the tail, you can see through the tail that it wasn't meant to look like that, maybe a last-minute decision to try to make it look different, who knows. This is just an observation and speculation on my part, not an expert. If you didn't know about that specific Pokémon, you would miss it. Someone on the team was definitely cutting corners by doing this, they have the ability to not do this the more pals I encounter. I hope they evolve their style and work more on this game but it's possible that this is all we're going to get since there's not much of a roadmap. That is, if they don't abandon Palworld for another game like they did Craftopia. I can see why they did it back then but hopefully it doesn't become a habit. The Azurobe example is the main concerning one for me, but I haven't found any other similar examples showing that they traced the same flicks of hair. Even if they did trace/copy some of the character parts, is there anything that can be done legally about it or will it just be something that's legal but frowned upon? I wish they had shared more of their process and concept works.
3:00 But they doooo look the same tho ... What were they ling about? They just scaled the model to the same size. The same way you would scale a 4k img down to 1k to compare it to another 1k image. Or am i missing something?
If you have to change it to make them the same it's not actually the same. If you need 2 Pokemon to 1 pal they aren't the same. The closest one is the blue deer to a Pokemon and boltmane and boltmane isnt in the game. Pokemon copied dragon quest just as much as palworld copied Pokemon.
Okay so something I wanted to note I decided to read the thing that version control thing came from Some corrections By the time they made palworld they were using git, they however hired a UE4 veteran dev who never worked with git and recommended perforce since it was better for UE4 but they didn't have the budget for that so they settled for SVN Also they switched to unreal cause they of the veteran applying to the company and they had 3 choices: Not hire him, hire him and have him learn unity or trust him with teaching them and switch to UE4 (since the rest of them were amateurs) They went with the switch If you want to read the rest I can link you to the note page this info was from (or the summary I made on Pastebin)
It forced people to use it wirelessly, creating branding consistency whenever someone comes across a magic mouse and it lasts long enough to not be annoying when you do need to plug it in (I still think it's dumb)
Regardless of whether or not AI was used or asset theft took place in this instance, this drama showed that there are apparentally a lot of people who wouldn't care if it did and that bums me out a lot
Bro there's no proof there's just allegations this isn't a asset flip and if you think that this is you have no idea what a true asset flip Is sorry you have a problem that someone came in and made a better game all game freak does is resell u the same game every other year
@@matthewhill5140 Where did I say the game was an asset flip?? I said asset theft, as in the claims that the meshes were stolen, and how I feel regardless of whether or not the claims were true, which it looks like they are not. calm tf down
You are fighting ghosts bro, he's talking about people's feelings about if it happened. I do not think it was stolen, but still, kinda sad people wouldn't care IF it happened. Or if AI were used for "creative" work
Nintendo cant lawsuit Palworld, cause lets be honest Palworld been in-development for 3years and nintendo nothing did, they in the same country, the only reason they made that statement was cause a bunch of pokemon fans didnt like other company making something like pokemon but different and they started to make up stories and even sending those comparisons to nintendo which led Nintendo atm trying to investigate if they can get a few bucks, but they should learn is how to make a innovate and fun game, cause pokemon games have fallen to the ground in concepts, tech, pokemon designs, lack of innovation, its pretty much same formula over and over, look at their last innovation placing hats on pokemon wow so amazing, Nintendo cant lawsuit them and people are just mad cause finaly someone took the monster catch system and made it into success without having pokemon tag on it.
To be clear, while they have different niches, Unity isn't necessarily more fit for small teams. But Unity definitely has less built-in stuff that can be considered bloat. An empty unity build could maybe be a few MB, while an empty unreal build is already quite big. If you're not using all of those features, being on unreal can be pretty annoying. On top of that, while you can use nodes in unreal, you can easily end up having to do C++. Unity uses C#, which is way easier for beginners. It's also a bit harder to do source control with unreal. These are the reasons Unity has its niche of small developers, but that doesn't necessarily make Unreal unfit for small teams.
You've made a ton of great points! Something that is actually really telling is that the only people who don't like the game are the people who haven't actually played it. I have yet to meet anyone who has played the game that doesn't love it. If all the people so focused on the pokemon comparisons actually tried it, I think they would not only enjoy it but also realize, it's NOT pokemon. It ticks box after box after box for a lot of people and is setting a new standard I hope we will see in the future.
I've met a few that did play it and liked at first but then decided they didn't because it looked like pokemon or they heard the AI rumors and got upset. Which people are welcome to dislike something if they want to it's just the reasoning that's baffling. Their personal opinions are taken and used as fact Which yes the designs do resemble pokemon but I think thats what their goal was. Kind of like how parody works
Just because they added survival elements to pokémon doesn't mean the pokémon part isn't just like pokémon. The equivalent of "tracing" in 3D models can still be infringement, not just direct asset ripping. It's honestly worse that the game doesn't use AI. Such a waste of time. Naughty Dog game dev is a POS. Look no further than the terrorism flag. Discard his opinion.
Well good thing your opinion is just that a opinion. Shows how much you like pokemon if a 5 year old can see they are different creatures. Dragon quest had their creatures copied and stolen by pokemon
@@BlahBlahBlahBlah69 "Different" isn't a legal standard. I fully support PalWorld, but I'm not a 5 year old, and I have the experience to know that the law is not guaranteed to give the equivalent of 3D "tracing" a free pass.
The only case Nintendo might be able to make is that some of the pals are derivative of certain pokemon designs. Realistically this would get settled out of court and they might have to change some of the pal designs.
Which I'd be fine with pal redesigns because it is early access and it'd make everyone happy. It'd still have that pokemon like style but more differentiation. It'd be a win win for everyone and the discourse would probably stop immediately
Pokemon has a copyright and not a patent as you can't patent an idea. As long as they don't directly steal the character models or names they aren't in jeopardy.
@@teamofone1219 while their TM will hold up, in court the patent would be shot down as there are similar systems that already exist by other developers. It does make for an interesting president. I'd be curios to see them try to enforce it though.
The next pal I give a gun to, I’m gonna name him MURICAAA. Thank you devs at pocketpair for thinking about us westerners when creating this blessed game. Yours truly, A Pokémon veteran
Thank you so much for this video, i really needed this. I've been so upset trying to explain to people that this is a 100% different game, even if some Pals have some inspiration from some Pokémon. I just want Palworld and the Dev team to continue to be a success. Also as some other comments have said, I hope at the end of the day Nintendo actually decides to put this on the Switch and let this game shine more! You have gained a new subscriber today.
What's really funny is that the tris.... match up. The models are direct rips that were spliced and shaped and lightly manipulated using the sculpt feature in Blender, Zbrush, etc. I'd be interested to see a legal team that's actually familiar with copyright and the 3D modeling processes sift through this instead of a bunch of people on the internet that claim to know about any one of those subjects.
the best argument against Palworld is a five minute browse of Lockstin&Gnoggin's non-regional fakemon the talk around Palworld has revealed people willfully ignore the difference between shared concepts (therpal and ekans) and shared designs (direhowl and lycanroc) because of the awful state of Pokemon in recent years Nintendo's taken down non-profit fan games with all original mons nowhere close in design to their own. A retail game with designs this close actually makes me worried for what otherwise looks like a very fun game and the competitor Pokemon's needed for a long time if Palworld gets taken down, or if its success sets a precedent on plagiarism that'll bite *everyone* in the ass sooner or later, it won't be surprising FORESHADOWING IS A LITERARY DEVICE WHERE--
There is a big difference between Palworld and those Pokemon fangames. Blatant trademark infringement. Because "Pokemon" is trademarked by the Pokemon Company, simply by using *the word* Pokemon in the title and the game itself, opens the doors for Nintendo to take it down.
Currently there is an investigation, apparently at Nintendo, but I doubt it because if Nintendo wanted to they would have already taken action against this game already. Honestly this is a big win for indie devs in my eyes.
There's no way for them to take action, every game / piece of media looks roughly like the other games / pieces of media it's in a genre with. Action movies don't sue other action movies cause there's explosions and fight scenes in them. Shooters don't sue other shooters cause theres guns in them. All nintendo could do is remove palworld from their platforms but it's not on their platforms anyway as far as I'm aware.
I just wish everyone would stop forcing a narrative and stop speaking for everyone. Pal world is amazing but to say it will destroy pokemon is just a bunch of people who see their views as law in some sort. I feel palworld has made me appreciate poekmon and want to get into digimon.
@@wrongthinker843 is that the best response you have? Come on now if you’re gonna debate at least put more effort. It’s fine if you can’t fathom it but I’ll break it down for you. Claiming that everyone wants Pokemon to be palworld and crying about “Nintendo fanboys” while projecting what oneself thinks on to everyone as if it should be that way is not the same as calling this stuff that’s literally being said all of TH-cam and even in comment sections. But hey go crazy.
while I am a pretty big gamefreak hater, agree the gameplay is nothing like pokemon, and have no issues with games being unoriginal in terms of taking from their inspirations (I hate the trend of dismissing a game as a knockoff just because it has a similar core gameplay loop and iterates on already good mechanics), I think you are really (maybe hastily) glossing over how blatant some of the monster designs are in terms of plagiarism. while a lot or even most of the designs seem to be original from my pov, I have seen several pals with large parts of their designs having the exact same shapes arranged in the same way with slightly adjusted proportions as a pokemon, often one with the same concept and idle pose. additionally many designs do this but just splice it from two different sources - ex. the base shape of azurobe's snake section is basically exactly the same as serperior's, while its plume is literally a 1:1 of primarina's in terms of shapes and their arrangement. The former could be argued to be coincidence since there's only so many ways you can stylize a snake, but with how blatant the other section is it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. Additionally the track record of their previous games doesn't help support the case either. personally I think it would be hard to make a legal case and nintendo wouldn't really have much upside in pursuing one anyway. It is also hard for me to feel bad for gamefreak as they have lied about having to remake models in the past as a pr excuse for a lesser product. At the end of the day I feel like a lot of the issue is that they have become the 2nd biggest game on steam ever, with just a bit of plagiarism. It raises the question of how much plagiarism is acceptable to people, and would people react differently if they weren't stealing from one of the biggest media franchise on earth? It also seems like a lot of ppl are looking to use this as an excuse to normalize art theft. hoping this game is just a one off instance of this type of thing. it sucks as well because a team of their size and tenure getting this level of success is insanely cool and I don't think they needed to copy anything to do it. very funny to hear that the guns were added purely as a marketing thing for the pokemon w/ guns angle, I think if you compare the overnight success to games like ark and conan it clearly worked.
If im honest, this isnt pokemon with guns, its ark with pokemon. The pokemon and ark game ive always wanted. I say pokemon, but could mean digimon or anything else, meaning monsters with elemental attacks and ark meaning open world survival base building, taming and boss hunting. This is a totally enjoyable experience for me and is why i put aside my "thats copied" biases
The only correlation between Palword and pokemon is the artstyle used making for some very similar looking monsters(Pals) and the use of a balls to catch them.
I find it fascinating how they managed to mash up so many things and made it work. It's not something you can easily do and I admire them for actually pulling it off.
I could write an entire essay on my issues with the discourse around this game as a game dev but ive come to realize that most people online are on the side of palworld and arent going to actually try and form their own independent thoughts. For those willing to actually think instead of just hopping on the palworld hype train consider the following: 1. Do you really want more games that have no creative vision and hop on trends of whatever is popular 1.5. Do you like the newer marvel and star wars content? Or the entire line of film and tv that copied marvel humor in order to hop on trends without any creative vision? Do you like 80 cinematic universes? Do you want the same with games hopping on trends? Are you not concerned that this game sets a precedent for just that? 2. Do you know how to 3d model yourself? If so, could you not evision grabbing a snake hook brush adding some tufts to the pokemon models, making a few extrudes and retopologizing it. Especially as a beginner modeler? If not, are you really gonna take some random screenshots on twitter as proof either way? 3. Does the game actually improve on anything from pokemon games or survival games in any way? What does it do differently from arc besides having pokemon looking characters? 4. Does the game actually look good to you or is it just Unreal? Do the characters look like they're from the same world as the things around them. Does the ground match the trees etc. 5. Does the game run well or are there plenty of bugs and glitches 6. Does the developer have any other games in early access? How long have they been in early access? Do you trust the developer to finish this game for any reason? If they have no creative vision or investment in the wordlbuilding or franchise why would they focus on this game when another trend is on the horizon. These are my issues with the game. All my answers to these questions are negative or negatively leaning. I am an indie dev. The creativity of this career is the most important thing to me. I cant like a game bereft of it by the own developers' admission and portfolio. That doesnt make a better game industry. Many peoples frustration is the fear that this makes things worse, just like with marvel movies it communicates that audiences dont care abour creativity or unique ideas, they just want mcdonalds. This game is mcdonalds. The burgers are good and tasty, but they will give you cancer and cause mom and pop shops with local ingredients to shut down. Its disheartening to see that happen in realtime as people cheer and outright fight for the death of creativity in an industry. This is why we got diablo immortal. This is why the industry is where it is now. Not because devs release unfinished garbage and remasters, but because players have made it very clear that they hate new and original ideas. And why risk it when trendy ideas always net profit.
I'm confused. I get behind the 3d model issues you outlined and even the lack of creative vision (it screams "I want money and fame" by the developer), but are you stating that the newer Marvel content is unique and creative? Inserting and outright imposing ideologies in a creative "safe" setting where folks go to escape such drama, set in a fantastical world, written and directed by individuals with NO or limited qualifications for such a task, is not creativity. Creativity is not bastardizing decades of stories, characterizations, and world building. It's unique work done by folks like Mike Flanagan, Guillermo del Toro, or Hayao Miyazaki.
@appleku51 No I'm stating exactly what you are, that marvel content if at one point was unique is now completely lacking in it and has started a trend of other studios copying their formula. Thus we have cinematic universes for everything from hot wheels to the mummy and endless reboots. I'm with you on the works by directors like Toro and Scorcese being the ones that are creative and unique. I bring this up because in asmongolds clip of "no one cares about the artists opinion, the game is fun" he mentions marvel movies and the Scorsese criticism of them by saying "shut up old man Thor is cool." The point I'm trying to make is that I fear by setting a precedent for games lacking creative vision making lots of money the industry will be pushed further into a dark age of games lacking creativity. I'll try and make that point more clear, thanks!
@theorants Please read my second to last paragraph where I conpare the game to mcdonalds. Clearly a great deal of people find the game fun, that's the point I'm illustrating. A game being fun is one of the most important things. But games are also art, and art being creative is one of the most important things. If a game is extremely fun but derivative and uninspired, it makes for a great game, but terrible art. If a game is extremely thought provoking and inspiring and really makes the players think while also inspiring artists to take new liberties and expand on ideas but it's ultimately a snooze fest its a bad game but great art. Games are always both, and if fun was the only factor, games would have never evolved beyond pong. Narrative games wouldn't exist at all. Games have a unique challenge of needing to be both. I don't need to ask if a game is fun when the primary defense of its many flaws are excused because of this subjective feeling many players have. I'm glad you're having fun with it, I'm not telling you not to. I'm suggesting that a game with no creativity in its design lacks artistic intent, and this massive flaw is massive. More game with similar flaws will lead to artistic stagnation and I don't want to see that just as much as I don't like seeing the plethora of games now that only put art as a primary focus. Additionally I'll remind you that the recent pokemon games got by on the same excuse of "fun". Just look back at when the game released and everyone claimed "it may look bad and be broken but the bugs are funny and the game is fun." This game isn't really the wake up slap to game freak you may think it to be. If anything its further confirmation that as long as they keep making pokemon, people will buy it because pokemon remains fun. No matter how broken or unfinished the game is. No matter how uninspired the design or the worldbuilding. As long as it's "fun" and that requires no innovation on palworld devs or game freak devs part. It's absolutely bizarre to me how internet discourse forgets so quickly. I remember arguing with people defending scarlet and violet and now I'm arguing with people defending palworld, and you're both saying the same things. Again, I like mcdonalds. I'm sure palworld is fun. But this is my career, my passion, my life and more. It's a bit frustrating to watch it get bastardized while audiences cheer. I don't like suburbs, I don't like gentrification, I don't like McDonald's and Starbucks every block. I much prefer a varied environment of ideas and cultures and expressions. I very much resent the idea that "fun" is all that matters because of how it incentivizes trend following and discourages creativity. If that's a problem for you, you didn't listen and you didn't hear me. That's fine I don't expect you to. Most humans follow trends. The trend right now is to like palworld. I'd encourage you to maybe try seeing my perspective a little bit more openly, but that might be the first time someone did so on youtube ever so I won't won't my breath. But I assure you that it's not a slippery slope fallacy or baseless fear, it's a shifting of trends we've seen over and over. But alas people never learn from the past do they? A wise man once said "Ah shit, here we go again."
this is THE new example of "stumbling into success" that I've ever seen. even if your solution to a problem is janky, if you like using it and it works, then there's nothing wrong with it.
I really hope we stop taking Twitter so seriously. There’s so much drama on there and people are willing to lie to get a point across. It’s just statements with nothing to back it up most of the time.
If there were copyright Gamefreak would have gone after them the moment the trailer dropped and guess what they did go after one of the pals the looked super similar to a Pokemon which was removed from the trailer.
What's truly insane is that the entire premise is Nintendo, which has a fleet of very aggressive lawyers, wouldn't have tried to stop an adult themed parody of their kid franchise.
Not really. Nintendo doesn't do lawsuits they can't win, and to them, there's no danger. It isn't infringing on their IP, and the genre is so entirely different that there's no real overlap in play styles. From a business standpoint, why would they worry?
You say the pokemon are simlar to pals, when its clear as day they are based on animals. They say lambell is similar to wooloo, when they are clearly different versions of a sheep. The game functions drastically different than any pokemon game in existence.
@@midnari because Palworld is showing the world that given 4 years, 40 people could do a better job of making a pokemon style game- than the 500 people they had working on Scarlet and Violet over three years.
Despite your shirt looking like old school analog TV static making my eyes bleed, you sir earned my sub. You popped on my recommended. I have watched quite literally dozens of vids about Palworld and this vid beat em all. Your viewpoints and insights impressed me and your rant about naughty dog and TLOU2 pretty much echoed my own thoughts. I look forward to more of your vids. o7
Regarding the "glorifies animal abuse" thing. If that's what you think, then accusing the game of asset theft is not how you go about it. Just make the point you're trying to make, right? I see this happen a lot, like when an artist is shown to be an abuser, and people are like "their art is shit". What's the correlation? Are you saying it's okay for good artists to be abusers? Or that if someone makes shit art, then they're a bad person? I really wish people didn't conflate things like that. I fucking loved Kevin Spacey in a lot of his movies. Dude's an outstanding actor, put him in a role and he rocks it. I just don't watch his movies anymore because he's a predator and hurt a bunch of people, but that doesn't suddenly make him a bad actor.
anyone who brings up "glorifies animal abuse" thing is a smooth brained dumbass with no valid opinions. These aren't animals, and even if they were they aren't real, it's all fake computer trickery, made up hypotheticals. You cannot run a gun manufacturing line uisong wolves and bears a slave labor.
Hey, I'm probably going to reference your video in an upcoming video about Palworld. I will be linking your video in the description, if you have any requests let me know in a reply here. I appreciate your coverage of these events, thank you.
7:10, Gets mad at Naughty Dog for rereleasing a game 7 times, without innovation- 2:10, but supports most of Game Freak’s decisions Game Freak has been rereleasing Pokemon without innovation, constantly.
Dismissing palworld as just a copy of other games is like saying a band isnt original because the instruments they use have been used by other bands. Sure, a band could, theoretically, invent a new instrument, but using existing instruments in new ways and combinations can make a band unique. Just like palworld is unique despite many of the systems being very similar to other games. Its the way they put those systems together that makes it unique.
First Bg3, now Pal World, they are discovering the hard truth that if they dont want to make us good games to play and other people does, we gona giver our money to the second. The jump from bg3 and now the Pal World jump is an pretty loud message from the consumer "we want good games that are fun to play, nothing more. We dont need good graphics or even coesion, no, just make something fun and we will buy and play it".
Last of Us 1 and 2 are my favorite games of all time. My desktop wallpaper, laptop wallpaper, and iPhone wallpaper are both Last of Us Part 2. Not even I bought the remaster, and I had the original on PS5 so I only have to pay $10. And I STILL didn't buy it
More CONTEXT: This is outdated information - the account that accused the OP of "scaling to fabricate the evidence" was reported. The tweet was taken down and the account is gone (last i checked) I am a Technical Animator, I rig models for a living. I dont speak for byofrog - but I would like to add more info about the situation: what is "SCALING" Global sizes of 3D Assets varies for every project. if two 3D models of different sizes need to be compared side by side then of course the need to be resized to be inspected. The act of "scaling" does not constitute "tampering." Think of it this way - you have two images of different sizes in Photoshop that you need to compare side by side - free transform with locked proportions is what scaling is. The account that accused the poster of "fabricating" evidence - was shouting out loud "they scaled the model to make them match" - and everyone accepted it as ""evidence tampering" without knowing what "scaling" actually meant. It basically just means uniform re-sizing. Dont take my word for it - ask any 3D Artist what scaling means. It's basically a label that stemmed from a lack of understanding about the subject matter. And just because it gained traction - everyone accepted it as truth without verifying the sources. The account that called out Byofrog was reported - and the tweet was taken down, and the account gone. What is Fabricating actually? When the model itself is edited - by that - PARTS of the skeletons are moved, the shape is changed in crucial areas, individual vertices are edited- in order to change the model's shape / shilloute. Basically, moving body parts around, changing limb sizes, or number of fingers, or shape of a mouth - that's what tampering is. But doing a uniform scale - is almost a fixed practice in 3D modeling. Resizing those models so they can be put side by side to inspect the details is not tampering. Again, dont take my word for it - ask any other 3D artist.
While the creatures look more like Pokemon and pokemon is the more known game, after sinking almost a few full days into this game it feels a lot more like an Ark clone then a pokemon one.
I bet they also moved away from Unity, due to the major scandal when Unity decided they were going to change their service in such a way that hurt smaller devs specifically, and seemed to make things not profitable for smaller devs. Not sure why anyone would risk working with Unity after that fiasco.
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I just love seeing aaa devs get salty when indie devs make fun games.
Imagine if Palworld added story mode and cities towns in the game I’m sure in future updates this will blow a hole in the universe of gaming
They really aren't
they are tho
just check naughty dog "dev"@@naganut9718
@@naganut9718 what, getting salty or making fun games? 800k players on bg3 then 1.8 million on palworld says the games must be fun, and aaa dev responses regarding just those two games shows them being salty.
@@theautomaticfiend no I mean I don't really see how they get mad. Nintendo isn't even the dev team, they're just publisher for Pokemon. And Gamefreak too many cash to even bother, the only reason the game was investigated by gamefreak is due to the designs because the dev can't help but plagiarize design so they can have 100+ creatures in their game
“I can’t believe that a gamedev would tear down another gamedev ”
First time? The drama from the H0D devs towards Elden Ring was absolutely nuts! This is basically standard for AAA devs who get scooped.
Or BG3, or Metroid Dread before that.
AAA game devs are a special kind of salty on Twitter. "Ugh, these games are too good! They're screwing up the bell curve we get graded on. That's actually bad for the industry and they shouldn't be celebrated for their achievements, they need to cut it out!" The delusion and cope...
idk, all those videos about 'dev hate towards elden ring' was based on like one or two statements that weren't even that bad. Was hugely overexaggerated
@@felicityc I remember that while only few complain, the twits got like from many other developers. Probably from there.
@@mourad505 With all the copium AAA devs are chugging lately I’m surprised there’s any supply left over for their fanboys.
How come nobody call's Pokemon, "Shin Megami Tensei clone" ?
EXACTLY!! Megami Tensei been dropping since 1987, Pokémon didn't drop here till 1998.
Or a dragon quest clone
How come you’re supporting plagiarism
Final fantasy had the same thing.
@@farbencut U don't know the meaning of the word
working for a software company for 20 years and learning their version control was a bunch of USB drives just kills me. lol. I just hope that their success keeps them moving in the correct direction but adopt some industry stuff to make things easier on them but never step away from the fact of making games fun for people is their main goal.
We see them as grassroots underdog team against AAA studios and it really just makes us root for them.
Even tiny "Hello world" projects cost me usually several git commits, so I don't understand, how they were able to pull it off with bucket of USB.
This games uniqueness is the fact it's a mesh of existing genres, then boiled the best ingredients that made those games fun into a soup. Then gave the soup a gun. And it was delicious.
Not like anyone would buy tlou2 remaster even if palworld wasn't being released at all
The Naughty Dog falloff has been one of the saddest tragedies in gaming. They might one up Bethesda in a few years
From crash bandicoot to tlou2r... What a downfall
I didn't buy it because I already owned the original. Couldn't upgrade fast enough, though. The new game mode is pretty damn fun!
(I'm at about 7:30, so it might be covered) the Pokemon company put out a statement regarding (paraphrasing) "a certain game released recently". My theory is they put out that press release to say "Yes we know. Stop emailing us."
But I must defend my corporate overlords who struggle with legal representation and often arent able to act 🥰🙏🏻
Not like it has something to do with your comment but.
Recently,the pokemon company deleted over 300+ comments on their most recent community post for basically 0 reasons,including one that reached 1K likes... thats an really sad situation because they are basically deleting people's opinions and its wrong. Whats your opinion on that?
Did you watch the video lmfao
@@turkishollowcat what were the comments about tho? do you have a Wayback Machine link to it?
They literally use an USB (Bit)Bucket for version control. That's so funny.
And dumb
@@thomassynthsyou work with what you got, game development isn’t an awesome job at times
@@RoboVenturerI mean, how does one dev an entire working game without knowing that source control exists? Obviously it happened, but I am clueless how someone can make a polished working game without knowing git exists.
@@thomassynthsbecause most the people involved didn’t know how to make a game and apparently most didn’t know how to use Unreal Engine.
Kinda makes sense to me that they have no idea how to do streamlined development.
@@thomassynths they clearly hired the right people, they go into more detail in their blog they made a few days before the game came out. Translation is a bit rough but the story is pretty cohesive and properly detailed, even if some of the details sound pretty out of there, but stranger things have happened in game development history.
I think this game definitely is like pokemon, because no one actually cares about pokemon's gameplay. What is "pokemon" to people is the character design philsophy which is why this game blew up so much, because people have been wanting a "pokemon" game without the same repetitive game design they've been doing for so many years.
The people who actually enjoy monster collecting JRPG gameplay just go play shin megami tensei.
Personally I think the Palworld devs did a great job giving the *feeling* of pokemon designs without just ripping it off.
Yeah I agree with you, very few people wanted the same old gameplay.
People just wanted a new way to experience Pokemon , to feel more immersived in the Pokemon world
Pokemon never delivered, and now palworld has provided the most immersive 'Pokemon' experience to date.
I don't mind that the designs are so similar it helps me forget that I'm not playing Pokemon
it just looks a bit like it but its an entirely differnt genre of games. and to me pokemon is not character design philosophy, but rather its the gameplay so stop putting words in my mouth
@@vodkawhisperer3923 well. To me Pokemon was the movies I grew up watching, the games I grew up playing , I even joined on PokeGO just because I love the IP.
The comp scene is cool, but I always hoped they would wow us with some new way to play, I got so excited with Arceus and then as soon as I got to scarlet I just dropped the game since it felt like a regression.
@peanutrule Then speak for yourself, not everyone else. I've enjoyed the game mechanics for over 20 years. Having an Arceus like game is fun from time to time.
They spent twenty years fine tuning the RPG aspects of the game. Why the hell would they change it completely?
I don't know about all that I mean there is a reason why competitive Pokemon has blown up the way it has
The contradiction when Pokémon took inspiration from Dragonquest which was around much earlier
The Nintendo thing was likely to shut ppl up about it if Nintendo wanted to they would of hit them long before it came out
Remember the mod?
They gone fast with it
But not coming for the base game
Every time the devs hit a roadblock they said "oh yeah, bet" then either went around the wall or straight through it. You love to see it
I hope this turns out to be the timeline where Nintendo not only DOESN'T file a lawsuit, but allows for a Switch version of Palworld. I really want this to be a full-on success story for those devs.
I don’t think that Nintendo can sue Pocket Pair.
If they could than they would have prevented this game from being released in the first place.
@@americankid7782 the mod for the game supposedly got nuked, along with anyone even showing footage of it, within an hour, so think its safe to say they would already have intervened if they had a case here
@@LilyMrrgglton oh yeah I forgot about the mod.
That was really quick.
The switch can’t run palworld. It can barely run Pokémon
@@theSwift715 Its more of the devs at GameFreak don't know how to optimize, if Nintendo can make some of the games run on the switch like Hogwarts legacy I believe they could make PalWorld run on it but the problem will be will the devs want to spend the time on it. They more than likely wait for whatever the next Nintendo console to come out. (if nothing comes from this "investigation")
Pokemon - Nobody Actually Dies
Palworld - Everyone Dies
They have ghosts though, where'd they come from?
@@nujevad28 "Ghost Type" So technically they're alive
Also the pals are literally people who died and “reincarnated” idk the exact way they become pals, but the way u appear in palword and the first npc and logs state that this is a afterlife of some sort?
Well, death is present in Pokémon, but they tend to gloss over it at times, though they HAVE been venturing a bit more into that aspect lately.
Weirdly enough, pals you kill don't seem to be dead. They still twitch a bit and their eyes turn to swirls.
Linux as we best know it today was initially written from scratch based on someone's understanding of Unix. This was taken to court but they actually survived it precisely because it wasn't lifting any code, despite being close to an exact copy in functionality at the time.
8:42 if you think about it hiring people this way actually makes more sense than the more typical methods. That is assuming they went there and interacted enough to get to know the kid. Everyone one says they are passionate about this or that but it is a lot more obvious if you spend time talking to someone about things.
Buckets of USB drives as version control sounds like a nightmare but also not as bad as it sounds but it depends on the details. It is turns version control into a manual process and very space inefficient. It is "save scumming" while making the games instead of while playing it.
The Nintendo response could of been relating the Mods they took down.
Based on my llmited knowledge of US copyright law, the worst that is going to happen is that a few of the Pals might be redesigned. That doesn't mean Nintendo won't sue, and it's easy to go bankrupt winning a copyright defense case.
The fact Nintendo already C&D'd the pokemon mod for palworld shows that nintendo probably knew about the game prior to that. I think they'd already have taken legal action if they were going to. None of the designs fail the 'squint' test -- meaning that the differences between conflicting designs are different enough that it won't cause confusion. Different shapes in some cases, different color palettes in others -- I don't think any of the designs are infringing. If anything Pocketpal will agree to change some designs so that Nintendo can crow about an IP law "Win" to maintain their reputation.
The guy didn't say he modified the mesh, he said he scaled it uniformly. Which is what you need to do if you want compare meshes. If I scale a mesh it doesn't make it a new one.
If you scale down a mesh enough, you can fit whatever into whatever. People called him out on that, because the meshes clearly did not overlap enough, he shrank it down to the point it would fit into the pokemon mesh so it would look more convincing.
@@pewpin1039 nonsense. If you scale a sphere it's not gonna became a cube
@@KrakkkNo, but if you scale a rectangular prism, you can fit it into a cube. And they are not the same thing either.
The point people made is that he scaled them to the point where one fits into another ~ish... there were clear differences, but they got ignored because he scaled the models to the point where one fit into another, and then handwaved any difference as a coincidence.
Is the music to this video stolen from Pokémon? #Theft #CancelTheo #MatchedAudioPolygons
I played Pokemon as a kid and left it far behind. I was wondering if Palworld was actually good and not just “Tik Tok” trendy vibes … glad to hear it’s actually good.
What is "Good" is very subjective. I get the feeling adults flock to this because they have wanted something that reminds them of Pokemon but isn't made for little kids. Palworld seems made for 12 year-olds but I guess that's close enough for Pokemon-adults.
03:00 if the scale is off originally that's not really a point. I can double the size of a picture too, still won't make it mine. The models are all eeeerily similar, the whole art direction is like on point Nintendo-esque. I'm not defending Nintendo at all, but it's CLEARLY a rip off. A fun rip off.
1:43 I don’t really agree with that. Healthy inspiration means building off Pokémon’s philosophy of design, or perhaps building off the design concept of a specific Pokémon. Basically remaking the design of Luxray, or straight up recreating Venusaur’s flower and sticking it on top of an original design… That’s not necessarily theft if you ask me, but it’s not really healthy creative inspiration, either. I would tentatively call it creatively lazy, but I’m not quite sure. This method of “sampling” specific design elements from another IP is undeniably a new phenomenon in gaming, and people are trying to decide how they feel about it.
Very well said.
Imo it’s a fusion of legends arceus (the least Pokémon Pokémon game. And one that went in the right direction imo)
And ark.
Plus a few unique stuff thrown in! Like having them craft or make stuff is so amazing
its not really unique its just conan exiles which came out many years ago but it is nice the way they include it in the game
@@tayloralliecee ehh but Conan exiles is super clunky And. . . Idk buggy? Ark and its creature AI and movement feels better then Conan
@@puddingsimon2626 yeah but what im saying is in conan you capture people andmake them work at your base on various built structures & complete tasks for you. the rest is more like ark but that feature is straight from conan exiles.
@@tayloralliecee last time I checked your ally’s didn’t help you make stuff in that
it was announced even before Pokemon Arceus.
That "buying multiple flash drives to preserve multiple versions of stuff" is something that I did when I was in school for a project. We were just a bunch of kids and was strapped for time and have no idea how to manage versions so we just made multiple copies instead. So now seeing them do it for this game and received great success is filled me with so much complicated emotions. It made me feel ashamed of dropping a lot of stuff just because of a small pebble tripped me in my journey of learning/doing something. They also opened my eyes and showed me that sometimes, you should just go for it, learn on the way and improve one step at a time
The Serperior comparison would probably have worked better with Dragonair honestly. Pokémon literally started as a digitised version of a childhood pastime of Japanese kids, bug fighting. Yeah stop comparing to cockfights kids, they're different things though both are cruel.
Part of why TLoU Part 2 isn't doing as well too is Druckmann's blind support for IL has driven off some of the studios defenders finally as well, and this isn't speculative we were clear why we were done.
Scaling only changes the size of the model, it doesn't alter the design or proportions and is still a fair comparison.
Yeah but some of the comparisons in general were still stretches. Besides. Even if some are similar it doesn't mean it was entirely intentional, and it's early access so it could be easily fixed instead of people bombarding the dev company with hatred and vitriol over 3D monsters
People are talking too much about "defending nintendo" when the most important point of the conversation should be the bad practices of their company. They have no creative intent and Hollow Knight is their next target; not an AAA company, Team Cherry is completely fucking indie.
"They have no creative intent" and yet, they are the only open world, survival monster catcher game
no other company has done it, which is literally the defintion of original, doing something no one else has done 🤷, keep coping
@@unknownunknown-cd7rx Let me try to translate this for you.
You know how Genshin Impact was accused of being a copy-paste of Breath of the Wild? And how its creative intent was what saved it because the game has its own IDENTITY? It has its own style, its own unique world, with its own unique story and characters and plenty of mechanics build from the groud up through inspiration from hack and slash games.
Then we have Palworld. It's Pokémon with guns. It has no identity, and it doesn't even have a style. They just took a popular game and mixed it with survival mechanics that people like because it's profitable.
There's nothing wrong with you enjoying the game on its own, everyone enjoys some junk food sometimes. But defending those creators is... an interesting choice
@@ellicavalcante7850 "It has no identity, and it doesn't even have a style." again, if that was even slightly true, NO ONE would buy it, which people obviously are, they have 8million sales on steam ALONE
"plenty of mechanics build from the groud up through inspiration from hack and slash games." neither breath of the wild or genshin have unique art styles or unique mechnics, they BOTH took insperation from eariler games, from other companies, hate to break the news to you lil kid, but EVERY company takes insperation from other games, video gams have been around for a LONG time, every single idea has been done, every new game is just rehashing old ideas, aka taking insperation
your entire argument is "every game AND every movie is allowed to take insperation from eachother, but palworld? no palworld is not allowed to do that, because i dont like palworld, because of lies ive been told on twitter"
This - cant agree more.
Pokemon Arceus? It's literally Breath of the Wild but with Pokemon@@unknownunknown-cd7rx
Palworld sucess seems like the iPhone in 2007. They aggregated good ideas that worked well individually but nobody tried to mesh them before. They made a new thing that is innovative in the area and just works, i.e. is fun!
I'd say not new but unique/different in a way that a lot of people are obviously enjoying. Hats off to pocket pair for doing a good job taking what they learned from craftopia and iterating on it to end up with such a successful game.
I'm afraid the issues this game has is going to be ignored because people keep focusing on the wrong things; it's either blindly hated or blindly loved. So much misinformation and people talking as if they're an expert despite barely understanding how modeling, ai and game development works. There's alittle bit of that in this video to be honest. I keep seeing people getting a translated interview about Crafttopia mixed up thinking it was about Palworld for instance. This isn't their first game and they aren't as Indie as they are making themselves out to be, it's not a small team. I've been playing it on Xbox Game Pass (which is quite buggy), it's really bare bones with a memory leak at the moment but has potential. There's no depth to this game, it's nothing new beyond the capturing, which I do enjoy. There are some more unique pals that look nothing like Pokémon; I wish they had gone with a more distinctive style that sets at least most of them apart. The name is a little ridiculous, people are probably going to call them Pokémon over pals on accident. So much of the style clashes in game for me. The game looks good despite some of the clashing styles but everything looks good on Unreal Engine. It is possible they used AI for concept art but there's no way of knowing and no poof. We can have a discussion about this without being ugly and rude, otherwise no one will take you seriously.
There is some shady stuff worth looking into. Looking at the model for Azurobe, it's clear that they either traced, referenced or changed up the model for Primarina, the tiers in the hair doesn't make sense on Azurobe because the hair ties that make it that shape on Prim are missing on Azurobe. Perhaps they couldn't make the deadline, and this is what they came up with. It also almost looks like they took the nose off of Primarina, enlarged it and stuck it on the tail, you can see through the tail that it wasn't meant to look like that, maybe a last-minute decision to try to make it look different, who knows. This is just an observation and speculation on my part, not an expert. If you didn't know about that specific Pokémon, you would miss it. Someone on the team was definitely cutting corners by doing this, they have the ability to not do this the more pals I encounter.
I hope they evolve their style and work more on this game but it's possible that this is all we're going to get since there's not much of a roadmap. That is, if they don't abandon Palworld for another game like they did Craftopia. I can see why they did it back then but hopefully it doesn't become a habit. The Azurobe example is the main concerning one for me, but I haven't found any other similar examples showing that they traced the same flicks of hair. Even if they did trace/copy some of the character parts, is there anything that can be done legally about it or will it just be something that's legal but frowned upon? I wish they had shared more of their process and concept works.
Funny how Theo himself spreds misinformation in this very video to fit his narrative.
@@Renoisticgo suck Nintendo ass while the rest of us have fun
3:00
But they doooo look the same tho ...
What were they ling about?
They just scaled the model to the same size.
The same way you would scale a 4k img down to 1k to compare it to another 1k image.
Or am i missing something?
If you have to change it to make them the same it's not actually the same.
If you need 2 Pokemon to 1 pal they aren't the same. The closest one is the blue deer to a Pokemon and boltmane and boltmane isnt in the game.
Pokemon copied dragon quest just as much as palworld copied Pokemon.
Okay so something I wanted to note
I decided to read the thing that version control thing came from
Some corrections
By the time they made palworld they were using git, they however hired a UE4 veteran dev who never worked with git and recommended perforce since it was better for UE4 but they didn't have the budget for that so they settled for SVN
Also they switched to unreal cause they of the veteran applying to the company and they had 3 choices:
Not hire him, hire him and have him learn unity or trust him with teaching them and switch to UE4 (since the rest of them were amateurs)
They went with the switch
If you want to read the rest I can link you to the note page this info was from (or the summary I made on Pastebin)
When will you defend the Apple Magic Mouse and its charging port? 🥺👉👈
Never KEKW
it's indefensible.
It forced people to use it wirelessly, creating branding consistency whenever someone comes across a magic mouse and it lasts long enough to not be annoying when you do need to plug it in (I still think it's dumb)
Apple products deserve nothing but condemnation.
NINTENDO is "Angry"
but did twitter started the angry post FIRST and force Nintendo to act?
They literally wrote they have recieved 'many' queries from random people. I doubt they would have posted anything otherwise.
@@Renoistic you just made my point right on the money.
your honor my client is claiming he was just being a bit silly.
The Japanese quote is fire
Regardless of whether or not AI was used or asset theft took place in this instance, this drama showed that there are apparentally a lot of people who wouldn't care if it did and that bums me out a lot
Bro there's no proof there's just allegations this isn't a asset flip and if you think that this is you have no idea what a true asset flip Is sorry you have a problem that someone came in and made a better game all game freak does is resell u the same game every other year
@@matthewhill5140 Where did I say the game was an asset flip?? I said asset theft, as in the claims that the meshes were stolen, and how I feel regardless of whether or not the claims were true, which it looks like they are not. calm tf down
@@SkylerCrouse NONE of the meshes were stolen, they are all original meshes made from the ground up, with hundreds of animations
You are fighting ghosts bro, he's talking about people's feelings about if it happened. I do not think it was stolen, but still, kinda sad people wouldn't care IF it happened. Or if AI were used for "creative" work
Indeed we don't care if the game is fun
Nintendo cant lawsuit Palworld, cause lets be honest Palworld been in-development for 3years and nintendo nothing did, they in the same country, the only reason they made that statement was cause a bunch of pokemon fans didnt like other company making something like pokemon but different and they started to make up stories and even sending those comparisons to nintendo which led Nintendo atm trying to investigate if they can get a few bucks, but they should learn is how to make a innovate and fun game, cause pokemon games have fallen to the ground in concepts, tech, pokemon designs, lack of innovation, its pretty much same formula over and over, look at their last innovation placing hats on pokemon wow so amazing, Nintendo cant lawsuit them and people are just mad cause finaly someone took the monster catch system and made it into success without having pokemon tag on it.
To be clear, while they have different niches, Unity isn't necessarily more fit for small teams.
But Unity definitely has less built-in stuff that can be considered bloat. An empty unity build could maybe be a few MB, while an empty unreal build is already quite big. If you're not using all of those features, being on unreal can be pretty annoying.
On top of that, while you can use nodes in unreal, you can easily end up having to do C++. Unity uses C#, which is way easier for beginners. It's also a bit harder to do source control with unreal.
These are the reasons Unity has its niche of small developers, but that doesn't necessarily make Unreal unfit for small teams.
Theo: A lot of things inspire a lot of things.
Nintendo: A lot of cease and desist notices inspire a lot of cease and desist notices.
You've made a ton of great points! Something that is actually really telling is that the only people who don't like the game are the people who haven't actually played it. I have yet to meet anyone who has played the game that doesn't love it. If all the people so focused on the pokemon comparisons actually tried it, I think they would not only enjoy it but also realize, it's NOT pokemon. It ticks box after box after box for a lot of people and is setting a new standard I hope we will see in the future.
I've met a few that did play it and liked at first but then decided they didn't because it looked like pokemon or they heard the AI rumors and got upset. Which people are welcome to dislike something if they want to it's just the reasoning that's baffling. Their personal opinions are taken and used as fact
Which yes the designs do resemble pokemon but I think thats what their goal was. Kind of like how parody works
@@Its_Asteria 100%
Just because they added survival elements to pokémon doesn't mean the pokémon part isn't just like pokémon.
The equivalent of "tracing" in 3D models can still be infringement, not just direct asset ripping.
It's honestly worse that the game doesn't use AI. Such a waste of time.
Naughty Dog game dev is a POS. Look no further than the terrorism flag. Discard his opinion.
Well good thing your opinion is just that a opinion.
Shows how much you like pokemon if a 5 year old can see they are different creatures.
Dragon quest had their creatures copied and stolen by pokemon
@@BlahBlahBlahBlah69 "Different" isn't a legal standard. I fully support PalWorld, but I'm not a 5 year old, and I have the experience to know that the law is not guaranteed to give the equivalent of 3D "tracing" a free pass.
The only case Nintendo might be able to make is that some of the pals are derivative of certain pokemon designs. Realistically this would get settled out of court and they might have to change some of the pal designs.
Which I'd be fine with pal redesigns because it is early access and it'd make everyone happy. It'd still have that pokemon like style but more differentiation. It'd be a win win for everyone and the discourse would probably stop immediately
Exactly, if Pokemon asks them to change some designs, without even needing lawsuit, they can just redesign them a bit and they'll be fine
Pokemon has a copyright and not a patent as you can't patent an idea. As long as they don't directly steal the character models or names they aren't in jeopardy.
Shadow of war patent the nemesis system.
@@teamofone1219 while their TM will hold up, in court the patent would be shot down as there are similar systems that already exist by other developers. It does make for an interesting president. I'd be curios to see them try to enforce it though.
The next pal I give a gun to, I’m gonna name him MURICAAA. Thank you devs at pocketpair for thinking about us westerners when creating this blessed game.
Yours truly,
A Pokémon veteran
Thank you so much for this video, i really needed this. I've been so upset trying to explain to people that this is a 100% different game, even if some Pals have some inspiration from some Pokémon. I just want Palworld and the Dev team to continue to be a success. Also as some other comments have said, I hope at the end of the day Nintendo actually decides to put this on the Switch and let this game shine more! You have gained a new subscriber today.
They have sold like 8 million copies. I think they'll be fine.
@@Renoistic i mean i get that, but 8 million copies sold wont mean jack if they actually get sued lol. but ty for the response :)
To be accurate. Its PalArk: Survival of the Cutest.
What's really funny is that the tris.... match up. The models are direct rips that were spliced and shaped and lightly manipulated using the sculpt feature in Blender, Zbrush, etc. I'd be interested to see a legal team that's actually familiar with copyright and the 3D modeling processes sift through this instead of a bunch of people on the internet that claim to know about any one of those subjects.
you mean the resised meshes. Try harder
@@Schinak I don't think you understood my comment.
Proof? Evidence? Did you complete your making shit up on the internet qouta for ghe day?
@@Hotasianchick you Palworld fans are a hateful bunch. Dial it back, stranger. Then we can have a dialogue. Maybe ask for details or something.
Post proof before make an allegation. Why don't dial it back first you accuser.
the best argument against Palworld is a five minute browse of Lockstin&Gnoggin's non-regional fakemon
the talk around Palworld has revealed people willfully ignore the difference between shared concepts (therpal and ekans) and shared designs (direhowl and lycanroc) because of the awful state of Pokemon in recent years
Nintendo's taken down non-profit fan games with all original mons nowhere close in design to their own. A retail game with designs this close actually makes me worried for what otherwise looks like a very fun game and the competitor Pokemon's needed for a long time
if Palworld gets taken down, or if its success sets a precedent on plagiarism that'll bite *everyone* in the ass sooner or later, it won't be surprising
FORESHADOWING IS A LITERARY DEVICE WHERE--
There is a big difference between Palworld and those Pokemon fangames.
Blatant trademark infringement. Because "Pokemon" is trademarked by the Pokemon Company, simply by using *the word* Pokemon in the title and the game itself, opens the doors for Nintendo to take it down.
Currently there is an investigation, apparently at Nintendo, but I doubt it because if Nintendo wanted to they would have already taken action against this game already.
Honestly this is a big win for indie devs in my eyes.
There's no way for them to take action, every game / piece of media looks roughly like the other games / pieces of media it's in a genre with. Action movies don't sue other action movies cause there's explosions and fight scenes in them. Shooters don't sue other shooters cause theres guns in them. All nintendo could do is remove palworld from their platforms but it's not on their platforms anyway as far as I'm aware.
Truthfully, I have been playing the game and ignoring the 'drama'. I figured most of it was from people who can't let others have fun.
I just wish everyone would stop forcing a narrative and stop speaking for everyone. Pal world is amazing but to say it will destroy pokemon is just a bunch of people who see their views as law in some sort. I feel palworld has made me appreciate poekmon and want to get into digimon.
@@yuriventura5601 > "stop forcing a narrative"
> immediately makes up a narrative
Naughty Dog doesn't consider fun when making games, so they're offended if others do.
@@wrongthinker843 is that the best response you have? Come on now if you’re gonna debate at least put more effort. It’s fine if you can’t fathom it but I’ll break it down for you. Claiming that everyone wants Pokemon to be palworld and crying about “Nintendo fanboys” while projecting what oneself thinks on to everyone as if it should be that way is not the same as calling this stuff that’s literally being said all of TH-cam and even in comment sections. But hey go crazy.
@@yuriventura5601 Then stop projecting.
TLDR: it is not pokémon
And it's more fun.
Get stones walls quickly,raids can, wipe. Out your base with overpowered raid pallas. My base got hit with pallas that looked muscled like machok.
Im happy to have supported this game.
while I am a pretty big gamefreak hater, agree the gameplay is nothing like pokemon, and have no issues with games being unoriginal in terms of taking from their inspirations (I hate the trend of dismissing a game as a knockoff just because it has a similar core gameplay loop and iterates on already good mechanics), I think you are really (maybe hastily) glossing over how blatant some of the monster designs are in terms of plagiarism. while a lot or even most of the designs seem to be original from my pov, I have seen several pals with large parts of their designs having the exact same shapes arranged in the same way with slightly adjusted proportions as a pokemon, often one with the same concept and idle pose. additionally many designs do this but just splice it from two different sources - ex. the base shape of azurobe's snake section is basically exactly the same as serperior's, while its plume is literally a 1:1 of primarina's in terms of shapes and their arrangement. The former could be argued to be coincidence since there's only so many ways you can stylize a snake, but with how blatant the other section is it's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt. Additionally the track record of their previous games doesn't help support the case either.
personally I think it would be hard to make a legal case and nintendo wouldn't really have much upside in pursuing one anyway. It is also hard for me to feel bad for gamefreak as they have lied about having to remake models in the past as a pr excuse for a lesser product. At the end of the day I feel like a lot of the issue is that they have become the 2nd biggest game on steam ever, with just a bit of plagiarism. It raises the question of how much plagiarism is acceptable to people, and would people react differently if they weren't stealing from one of the biggest media franchise on earth? It also seems like a lot of ppl are looking to use this as an excuse to normalize art theft.
hoping this game is just a one off instance of this type of thing. it sucks as well because a team of their size and tenure getting this level of success is insanely cool and I don't think they needed to copy anything to do it. very funny to hear that the guns were added purely as a marketing thing for the pokemon w/ guns angle, I think if you compare the overnight success to games like ark and conan it clearly worked.
Wow we needed this video. Makes all the controversies around palworld silly.
Truth is game is great and lazy gamefreak failed to inovate for 20 years
Watch out Gamefreak supporters going to attack you bro
The fact that Theo's camera isn't aligned with arc's border is erking me
Oh no why did you have to mention this now I can’t unsee it
If im honest, this isnt pokemon with guns, its ark with pokemon. The pokemon and ark game ive always wanted. I say pokemon, but could mean digimon or anything else, meaning monsters with elemental attacks and ark meaning open world survival base building, taming and boss hunting. This is a totally enjoyable experience for me and is why i put aside my "thats copied" biases
If this is the level of your regular rants, you have a new sub! Absolutely love your style ❤ And your lush moustache!
The only correlation between Palword and pokemon is the artstyle used making for some very similar looking monsters(Pals) and the use of a balls to catch them.
I find it fascinating how they managed to mash up so many things and made it work. It's not something you can easily do and I admire them for actually pulling it off.
To me this is like Ark, BOTW and Pokemon merged into one, so I totally dig it.
I could write an entire essay on my issues with the discourse around this game as a game dev but ive come to realize that most people online are on the side of palworld and arent going to actually try and form their own independent thoughts.
For those willing to actually think instead of just hopping on the palworld hype train consider the following:
1. Do you really want more games that have no creative vision and hop on trends of whatever is popular
1.5. Do you like the newer marvel and star wars content? Or the entire line of film and tv that copied marvel humor in order to hop on trends without any creative vision? Do you like 80 cinematic universes? Do you want the same with games hopping on trends? Are you not concerned that this game sets a precedent for just that?
2. Do you know how to 3d model yourself? If so, could you not evision grabbing a snake hook brush adding some tufts to the pokemon models, making a few extrudes and retopologizing it. Especially as a beginner modeler? If not, are you really gonna take some random screenshots on twitter as proof either way?
3. Does the game actually improve on anything from pokemon games or survival games in any way? What does it do differently from arc besides having pokemon looking characters?
4. Does the game actually look good to you or is it just Unreal? Do the characters look like they're from the same world as the things around them. Does the ground match the trees etc.
5. Does the game run well or are there plenty of bugs and glitches
6. Does the developer have any other games in early access? How long have they been in early access? Do you trust the developer to finish this game for any reason? If they have no creative vision or investment in the wordlbuilding or franchise why would they focus on this game when another trend is on the horizon.
These are my issues with the game. All my answers to these questions are negative or negatively leaning. I am an indie dev. The creativity of this career is the most important thing to me. I cant like a game bereft of it by the own developers' admission and portfolio. That doesnt make a better game industry.
Many peoples frustration is the fear that this makes things worse, just like with marvel movies it communicates that audiences dont care abour creativity or unique ideas, they just want mcdonalds. This game is mcdonalds. The burgers are good and tasty, but they will give you cancer and cause mom and pop shops with local ingredients to shut down.
Its disheartening to see that happen in realtime as people cheer and outright fight for the death of creativity in an industry. This is why we got diablo immortal. This is why the industry is where it is now. Not because devs release unfinished garbage and remasters, but because players have made it very clear that they hate new and original ideas. And why risk it when trendy ideas always net profit.
I'm confused. I get behind the 3d model issues you outlined and even the lack of creative vision (it screams "I want money and fame" by the developer), but are you stating that the newer Marvel content is unique and creative? Inserting and outright imposing ideologies in a creative "safe" setting where folks go to escape such drama, set in a fantastical world, written and directed by individuals with NO or limited qualifications for such a task, is not creativity. Creativity is not bastardizing decades of stories, characterizations, and world building. It's unique work done by folks like Mike Flanagan, Guillermo del Toro, or Hayao Miyazaki.
@appleku51 No I'm stating exactly what you are, that marvel content if at one point was unique is now completely lacking in it and has started a trend of other studios copying their formula.
Thus we have cinematic universes for everything from hot wheels to the mummy and endless reboots. I'm with you on the works by directors like Toro and Scorcese being the ones that are creative and unique.
I bring this up because in asmongolds clip of "no one cares about the artists opinion, the game is fun" he mentions marvel movies and the Scorsese criticism of them by saying "shut up old man Thor is cool."
The point I'm trying to make is that I fear by setting a precedent for games lacking creative vision making lots of money the industry will be pushed further into a dark age of games lacking creativity.
I'll try and make that point more clear, thanks!
Crazy how literally zero of your questions are “is the game fun?”
@theorants Please read my second to last paragraph where I conpare the game to mcdonalds. Clearly a great deal of people find the game fun, that's the point I'm illustrating.
A game being fun is one of the most important things. But games are also art, and art being creative is one of the most important things. If a game is extremely fun but derivative and uninspired, it makes for a great game, but terrible art.
If a game is extremely thought provoking and inspiring and really makes the players think while also inspiring artists to take new liberties and expand on ideas but it's ultimately a snooze fest its a bad game but great art.
Games are always both, and if fun was the only factor, games would have never evolved beyond pong. Narrative games wouldn't exist at all. Games have a unique challenge of needing to be both.
I don't need to ask if a game is fun when the primary defense of its many flaws are excused because of this subjective feeling many players have.
I'm glad you're having fun with it, I'm not telling you not to. I'm suggesting that a game with no creativity in its design lacks artistic intent, and this massive flaw is massive. More game with similar flaws will lead to artistic stagnation and I don't want to see that just as much as I don't like seeing the plethora of games now that only put art as a primary focus.
Additionally I'll remind you that the recent pokemon games got by on the same excuse of "fun". Just look back at when the game released and everyone claimed "it may look bad and be broken but the bugs are funny and the game is fun."
This game isn't really the wake up slap to game freak you may think it to be. If anything its further confirmation that as long as they keep making pokemon, people will buy it because pokemon remains fun. No matter how broken or unfinished the game is. No matter how uninspired the design or the worldbuilding. As long as it's "fun" and that requires no innovation on palworld devs or game freak devs part.
It's absolutely bizarre to me how internet discourse forgets so quickly. I remember arguing with people defending scarlet and violet and now I'm arguing with people defending palworld, and you're both saying the same things.
Again, I like mcdonalds. I'm sure palworld is fun. But this is my career, my passion, my life and more. It's a bit frustrating to watch it get bastardized while audiences cheer. I don't like suburbs, I don't like gentrification, I don't like McDonald's and Starbucks every block. I much prefer a varied environment of ideas and cultures and expressions. I very much resent the idea that "fun" is all that matters because of how it incentivizes trend following and discourages creativity.
If that's a problem for you, you didn't listen and you didn't hear me. That's fine I don't expect you to. Most humans follow trends. The trend right now is to like palworld. I'd encourage you to maybe try seeing my perspective a little bit more openly, but that might be the first time someone did so on youtube ever so I won't won't my breath. But I assure you that it's not a slippery slope fallacy or baseless fear, it's a shifting of trends we've seen over and over.
But alas people never learn from the past do they? A wise man once said "Ah shit, here we go again."
@@dracofells5390game is fun that's the only thing gamers care about good luck with your probably 16 bit pixel games
this is THE new example of "stumbling into success" that I've ever seen.
even if your solution to a problem is janky, if you like using it and it works, then there's nothing wrong with it.
I really hope we stop taking Twitter so seriously. There’s so much drama on there and people are willing to lie to get a point across.
It’s just statements with nothing to back it up most of the time.
Base takes bro your a legends thank you for speaking up!
If there were copyright Gamefreak would have gone after them the moment the trailer dropped and guess what they did go after one of the pals the looked super similar to a Pokemon which was removed from the trailer.
The music choice in this video is genius
I heard 7million and heard 7 billion copies sold for a second I WAS LIKE DAMN THEY SOLD TO THE WHOLE WORLD
Love the Hoeg Law clip, great channel covering the intersection of law and gaming. Also obsessed with playing Palworld, fun game.
I hope Nintendo and people in general take this game as a step forward in the world of game development.
This will light a fire in monster catching genre. Pokémon is taking notes and I bet they will make better games
I love how you ignored the entire point of the video - It isn't the same type of game. For God's sake.
Theo looks like he doesn't sleep regularly at any stage of recording.
There's lot of VERY small audio cuts in this video.
Yeah I think isotope screwed me 😭😭 tried some new audio processing and it did not go as hoped but I really wanted to go to bed lol
@@theorants its cool, the vid is still good!
Why do I get Petscop vibes when I hear the name Palworld?
Finally somebody who can kill the boredom of the Pokémon games
By replacing it with the boredom of survival games. Yay...
I may agree not agree :D
@@Renoistic
What's truly insane is that the entire premise is Nintendo, which has a fleet of very aggressive lawyers, wouldn't have tried to stop an adult themed parody of their kid franchise.
Not really. Nintendo doesn't do lawsuits they can't win, and to them, there's no danger. It isn't infringing on their IP, and the genre is so entirely different that there's no real overlap in play styles.
From a business standpoint, why would they worry?
Because they can't. They can't sue somebody for making a game about catching monsters.
You say the pokemon are simlar to pals, when its clear as day they are based on animals. They say lambell is similar to wooloo, when they are clearly different versions of a sheep. The game functions drastically different than any pokemon game in existence.
Even funnier when you realize that Nintendo shut down the pokemon in palworld mod immediately, but didn’t do the same to palworld itself.
@@midnari because Palworld is showing the world that given 4 years, 40 people could do a better job of making a pokemon style game- than the 500 people they had working on Scarlet and Violet over three years.
3:16 i actually just burst out laughing holy shit
Peta undercover agent
7:45 that thing here was Gold.
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!
Despite your shirt looking like old school analog TV static making my eyes bleed, you sir earned my sub. You popped on my recommended. I have watched quite literally dozens of vids about Palworld and this vid beat em all. Your viewpoints and insights impressed me and your rant about naughty dog and TLOU2 pretty much echoed my own thoughts. I look forward to more of your vids. o7
The music is so funny with how angry Theo is
The camera edge one or two pixels off of the browser window was lowkey triggering, don’t know why 😅
Sorry, I’m weird…
They have the cute aesthetic like Nintendo but game play loop way different.
Regarding the "glorifies animal abuse" thing. If that's what you think, then accusing the game of asset theft is not how you go about it. Just make the point you're trying to make, right?
I see this happen a lot, like when an artist is shown to be an abuser, and people are like "their art is shit". What's the correlation? Are you saying it's okay for good artists to be abusers? Or that if someone makes shit art, then they're a bad person? I really wish people didn't conflate things like that.
I fucking loved Kevin Spacey in a lot of his movies. Dude's an outstanding actor, put him in a role and he rocks it. I just don't watch his movies anymore because he's a predator and hurt a bunch of people, but that doesn't suddenly make him a bad actor.
anyone who brings up "glorifies animal abuse" thing is a smooth brained dumbass with no valid opinions.
These aren't animals, and even if they were they aren't real, it's all fake computer trickery, made up hypotheticals. You cannot run a gun manufacturing line uisong wolves and bears a slave labor.
100% agree with the game making commentary about Pokemon, which is just plush toy cockfighting.
Hey, I'm probably going to reference your video in an upcoming video about Palworld. I will be linking your video in the description, if you have any requests let me know in a reply here.
I appreciate your coverage of these events, thank you.
Oh my god. Animal “abuse” in video games ain’t real.
I'm shocked with that Noti Dough.
7:10, Gets mad at Naughty Dog for rereleasing a game 7 times, without innovation-
2:10, but supports most of Game Freak’s decisions
Game Freak has been rereleasing Pokemon without innovation, constantly.
Crazy thing is I haven't bought this yet, but fully intend to.
8:47 - what an insane story. 😅
No version control? They are more amateurish than me..
Dismissing palworld as just a copy of other games is like saying a band isnt original because the instruments they use have been used by other bands. Sure, a band could, theoretically, invent a new instrument, but using existing instruments in new ways and combinations can make a band unique. Just like palworld is unique despite many of the systems being very similar to other games. Its the way they put those systems together that makes it unique.
Im dying to play Palwolrd but.. my laptop cant run it and i dont have an xbox.. so.. damn.
First Bg3, now Pal World, they are discovering the hard truth that if they dont want to make us good games to play and other people does, we gona giver our money to the second. The jump from bg3 and now the Pal World jump is an pretty loud message from the consumer "we want good games that are fun to play, nothing more. We dont need good graphics or even coesion, no, just make something fun and we will buy and play it".
Last of Us 1 and 2 are my favorite games of all time. My desktop wallpaper, laptop wallpaper, and iPhone wallpaper are both Last of Us Part 2. Not even I bought the remaster, and I had the original on PS5 so I only have to pay $10. And I STILL didn't buy it
I personally think it's worth it just for No Return if you like the gameplay.
More CONTEXT:
This is outdated information - the account that accused the OP of "scaling to fabricate the evidence" was reported. The tweet was taken down and the account is gone (last i checked)
I am a Technical Animator, I rig models for a living. I dont speak for byofrog - but I would like to add more info about the situation:
what is "SCALING"
Global sizes of 3D Assets varies for every project. if two 3D models of different sizes need to be compared side by side then of course the need to be resized to be inspected. The act of "scaling" does not constitute "tampering." Think of it this way - you have two images of different sizes in Photoshop that you need to compare side by side - free transform with locked proportions is what scaling is.
The account that accused the poster of "fabricating" evidence - was shouting out loud "they scaled the model to make them match" - and everyone accepted it as ""evidence tampering" without knowing what "scaling" actually meant. It basically just means uniform re-sizing. Dont take my word for it - ask any 3D Artist what scaling means.
It's basically a label that stemmed from a lack of understanding about the subject matter. And just because it gained traction - everyone accepted it as truth without verifying the sources. The account that called out Byofrog was reported - and the tweet was taken down, and the account gone.
What is Fabricating actually?
When the model itself is edited - by that - PARTS of the skeletons are moved, the shape is changed in crucial areas, individual vertices are edited- in order to change the model's shape / shilloute. Basically, moving body parts around, changing limb sizes, or number of fingers, or shape of a mouth - that's what tampering is.
But doing a uniform scale - is almost a fixed practice in 3D modeling. Resizing those models so they can be put side by side to inspect the details is not tampering.
Again, dont take my word for it - ask any other 3D artist.
While the creatures look more like Pokemon and pokemon is the more known game, after sinking almost a few full days into this game it feels a lot more like an Ark clone then a pokemon one.
I bet they also moved away from Unity, due to the major scandal when Unity decided they were going to change their service in such a way that hurt smaller devs specifically, and seemed to make things not profitable for smaller devs. Not sure why anyone would risk working with Unity after that fiasco.