Talk about a thinly veiled threat, haha. I was sad, that Ibrahim ultimately chose to not be loyal to Süleyman, though. I thought that being given such a clear ultimatum, might finally make him come around.
Haha! His mother pulled the old fake faint trick to rein him in. He isn't caring about it now. It is her own fault. She tried to execute Hurrem with Ibraham and ended up making him realize that he couldn't live without her. But looks like he can do without both of them as he subtlety warned them.
Mahidevran looks like she's about to genuinely keel over and faint. Also the look on Suleiman's face as it changes from happiness at the solemnisation to the slow realisation that everyone is against his decision was masterfully done by the actor.
@@PatriciaXaramentally in this series she remained slave till the end and she even installed this mindset in her daughter. Can you imagine any of Suleiman's sisters allowing their husbands to treat them as Rustem treated Mihrimah?
Mahidevran..menjadi istri raja tidak cukup hanya kecantikan tetapi harus cerdas,tegas dan loyality n punya wawasan tinggi untuk mendukung sang raja,anda tidak miliki itu anda harus terima kekalahan,hureem miliki semua itu pantas raja pilih hureem
Mahidevran can't have her favourite man in the first place, still she wants him with other women. At least hurrem wont let any women near her favourite man. 😂😂
I really don't understand Hürrem's feelings! How is it possible to feel love on one hand and on the other hand feel hate? Is it possible to full a heart with these strong feelings together? On one hand fell in love with Suleyman and on the other hand fooled him about everything and everyone!!
She was sure that she protected her new family. This wish to be strong was natural for woman that had lost her parents and brothers. Оf course, feeling of love doesn't exclude a lie, an anger and a hypocrisy.
@@STUDIES178Loving isn't a strategy. That attitude is what's wrong with the world now. Real love is unconditional and does not seek things for itself, but for the good of the one it loves.
It wasn't about love at all, or hate, but survival. Luckily, as far as history is concerned, most of this stuff wasn't real and her journey was far more harmonious than this.
So if it is against tradition for sultans to marry, then aren't ALL his descendants illegitimate, and aren't all the ancestors and siblings also illegitimate, including Valide, Hatice, Huban, etc.?
It was against their tradition, not forbidden in the religion. Reason being that if the empire falls, no one captures legal wifes of the king, since there are none. That's what I've read.
I am very confused with one thing about all this. Just who got the money for her. Usually it would be the father right? But she was a former slave. So does this mean that the person agreeing to the marriage got them or her?
It was her Haq Mahar; it is a woman's right when she gets married in Islamic law. She can demand anything reasonable from the man as her Haq Mahar, it could be money, land or property or anything that she sees fit. And no, the father doesn't get the money, whatever she demands she keeps it and nobody has any right over what she demands be it her husband or her father. But obviously, there is the law and then there are people who choose to follow it or not... in many cultures the father takes the money, or the in-laws take it back in some cultures .... But to answer your Question: Hurrem Got the money and she will keep it for herself!
Ok, but why did they use proxys for the ceremony? Instead of Suleiman & Hürrem, themselves,? I thought proxy was only used if either bride or groom is not physically available...
The look he got on his face after his mother said "I'll disown you" like "Welp, guess you'll have to disown me then lol"
My Fave is Gulfem telling Mahi how much she suffered. Because before Hurrem had dethroned Mahi. Mahi had dethroned Gulfem.
It's not just that. Gulfem had 2 kids with Suleiman before he became the Sultan, but they died. She is the one with real reasons to suffer.
I quest question why mahi had the only heir for so long @@PatriciaXara
"Even if she trips and falls, I'll blame it on you. You should know that." What a lovely smile he had on his face as he said that. :D
Too bad sultan really didn’t mean it or Ibrahim would have been dead a long time ago
@@susanparker9581 Spoiler alert - At least he reminded Ibrahim of those words after the harem riot.
Talk about a thinly veiled threat, haha.
I was sad, that Ibrahim ultimately chose to not be loyal to Süleyman, though. I thought that being given such a clear ultimatum, might finally make him come around.
Haha! His mother pulled the old fake faint trick to rein him in. He isn't caring about it now. It is her own fault. She tried to execute Hurrem with Ibraham and ended up making him realize that he couldn't live without her. But looks like he can do without both of them as he subtlety warned them.
nigar kalfa looks on so very proudly. hurrem was her student. she seems happy here. it's a shame they became enemies later.
In real life Sulieman didn't marry Hurrem till his mother died, and she's the one that gave Hurrem to Sulieman!!
he married her the year before she died, but they didn't have a celebration until after she died.
@@catherineomondi7850
It is true. 👍👍👍
That pink gown Hatice was wearing was gorgeous!
Mahidevran looks like she's about to genuinely keel over and faint. Also the look on Suleiman's face as it changes from happiness at the solemnisation to the slow realisation that everyone is against his decision was masterfully done by the actor.
What a perfect prison system: two slaves fighting over their master.
True. But at this point Hurrem was not a slave anymore, Suleiman had freed her.
@@PatriciaXaramentally in this series she remained slave till the end and she even installed this mindset in her daughter. Can you imagine any of Suleiman's sisters allowing their husbands to treat them as Rustem treated Mihrimah?
@@nielubieinceli Free or not, the Sultan could have her killed at any moment.
Hatice looked so beautiful and happy when she was pregnant 🥰
I did feel bad for Mahidevran though. Her heart was shattered.
Congratulations Hurrem ❤❤❤
Mahidevran..menjadi istri raja tidak cukup hanya kecantikan tetapi harus cerdas,tegas dan loyality n punya wawasan tinggi untuk mendukung sang raja,anda tidak miliki itu anda harus terima kekalahan,hureem miliki semua itu pantas raja pilih hureem
Suleiman did not listen to valide about marraige..
Mustafa and beyzid did not listen to suleiman
Suleyman said to hurrem " the reason of my exsistence " it is the deep word by the heart of Suleyman to hurrem ❤
THIS EPISODE IS EPIC 🥹
Best decision of Suleman ❤
Funny how they used valide sultan apartment for the feast but with a different decoration, its so obvious haha
Mahidevran can't have her favourite man in the first place, still she wants him with other women. At least hurrem wont let any women near her favourite man. 😂😂
I really don't understand Hürrem's feelings! How is it possible to feel love on one hand and on the other hand feel hate? Is it possible to full a heart with these strong feelings together? On one hand fell in love with Suleyman and on the other hand fooled him about everything and everyone!!
Maturity is when you understand that loving is also a stratergy...
She was sure that she protected her new family. This wish to be strong was natural for woman that had lost her parents and brothers. Оf course, feeling of love doesn't exclude a lie, an anger and a hypocrisy.
@@STUDIES178Loving isn't a strategy. That attitude is what's wrong with the world now. Real love is unconditional and does not seek things for itself, but for the good of the one it loves.
It wasn't about love at all, or hate, but survival. Luckily, as far as history is concerned, most of this stuff wasn't real and her journey was far more harmonious than this.
She is a gold digger
So if it is against tradition for sultans to marry, then aren't ALL his descendants illegitimate, and aren't all the ancestors and siblings also illegitimate, including Valide, Hatice, Huban, etc.?
???
That is also my question, so confused as they were Muslims
It was against their tradition, not forbidden in the religion. Reason being that if the empire falls, no one captures legal wifes of the king, since there are none. That's what I've read.
Most beautiful scene❤
i am happy for you Hurrem, Great..
Ich liebe sie Beide.
6:22 as always, mahidevran is after throne
Ancient rule had been broken since Valide Sultan became Valide Sultan ?
Sultan Suleyman mother wasn't a slave like Hurrem, a common women.
@@simonadumitrache6396 in real life, she was a slave.
Die Mutter ist ja unmöglich.
I am very confused with one thing about all this. Just who got the money for her. Usually it would be the father right? But she was a former slave. So does this mean that the person agreeing to the marriage got them or her?
It was her Haq Mahar; it is a woman's right when she gets married in Islamic law. She can demand anything reasonable from the man as her Haq Mahar, it could be money, land or property or anything that she sees fit. And no, the father doesn't get the money, whatever she demands she keeps it and nobody has any right over what she demands be it her husband or her father. But obviously, there is the law and then there are people who choose to follow it or not... in many cultures the father takes the money, or the in-laws take it back in some cultures ....
But to answer your Question: Hurrem Got the money and she will keep it for herself!
What kind of nikkah is this?
Hahahaha hafsas, hatices and mahidevils face. From now on she outranks hatice and mahidevran!!!
Technically she would outrank hafsa too. Though they constantly have her coming below them in the show
@@joannalee4779 yes
Ok, but why did they use proxys for the ceremony? Instead of Suleiman & Hürrem, themselves,? I thought proxy was only used if either bride or groom is not physically available...
I wondered about this, too. It's a very odd tradition.
Because harem women arent supposed to be even looked at by other men ig
Weißt du eigentlich das dein Sohn alt genug ist und selber seine Frau aussuchen möchte
These women! So funny 😂
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