I have a lightly used '65' Super Reverb RI arriving tomorrow, Sept. 3rd, 2024, that I found on the Reverb! site. I had a real-deal 60's BF one back many years ago. Why I sold it I don't remember. At 72 I gotta do these things and get as much enjoyment from them as my years left are in small numbers. I also recently picked up a clean hand-wired Deluxe Reverb. IMHO it's far superior to the '65 DR being auditioned here. YEEHAW!! :)
I think this video just illustrates that we need a video of a "fender timeline" 4 eras of the same amp. Tweed, brown face, black face, and silver face.
I'm a 22 year old that's been a fan of the show for a couple of years now. One night my mom's friend who's been a professional guitar player all his life, touring all over Canada and Europe, came for diner and played through my rig. He wrote to me the next day saying "Man, can I come back to your place with my touring gear? I have to make my rig sound like yours". If that isn't the single greatest compliment a man can get, I don't know what is. Thanks Dan and Mick! (btw I'm running a PRS Mira flame top through a Hudson Sidecar or Broadcast -> Kingsley Constable -> Ecochord tape delay -> Catalinbread Talisman -> Strymon Deco into a Marshall JTM and a vintage Plexi-like Traynor in stereo)
I’ve been playing 18 months Justin Sandecoe teaches me technique My guitar teacher covers theory / turning technique into music TPS teaches tone / amp, making music inspirational I reckon all three are just as important as one another! I remember my guitar teacher interrupting me recently to say “that’s one of the best strat tones I’ve ever heard”... AVRI ‘62->Sunface bc-183->Golden Boy->Page->Ardx20->V40D... I said that’s Mick and Dan!
I bet anything would sound good into that rig but I’ve been gassing for a vintage cherry Mira core ❤️ Totally agree with your sentiment, TPS is a wonderful wealth of knowledge. I just wish it hadn’t taken me a few years to become a Patreon!
Or.. Mum: “He’s watching that bloody pedal show again” Dad: “Leave ME be” I have a feeling my ten-month-old daughter is going to own her own Fender one day 😉
I would add that the Tube Screamer sounds pinched and nasty to me in comparison to either amp alone, clean or dirty. The Morning Glory or the Rat makes more sense to me, if you absolutely have to have a pedal on…
The Fender Super Reverb is probably the best amplifier ever, but before you start yelling let me say, I am 74 years old and have been playing guitar for 60 years. I have owned or played just about everything and currently play thru a '67 Super Reverb in stereo with either my Dr Z Z Wreck, Dr Z Maz 18 or Dr Z DB4 and my tone is amazing.
Great show! The Super reverb is a killer amp, but to loud. The answer is Vibrolux Reverb. 35 w 2X10. Just got my '65 back from service and I'm in heaven again.
@@ThatPedalShow And it‘s a joy to listen to a show that got their microphones right. I would appreciate if you could share your room setup, there seems a lot to be learned from you even there.
Dan, you really need to reach out to Megan Lovell of Larkin Poe. She's the Slide Queen of the Fender Deluxe Reverb. (I told her you need to build her pedal board as well). Make it happen!
Grew up seeing The Derek Trucks Band multiple times a year often feet from his cranked Super Reverb. Got hooked and acquired 1966 Super. Been my amp for years! Classic tones.
Ah man. There are many days I wish I was American. Mick here. British music is very cool of course, but it ain’t Derek Trucks and Doyle and SRV and Albert and BB and the other Albert and Robert Cray and, well.... all of those dooooods.
@58:00 my lighter came out, i was at a concert in my headphones, awash in fuzzy bliss. Thank you Mick. And then Dan brought us back down to earth with the Gretsch, Thank you Dan. Terribly satisfying video.
I always watch for the playing, but its the talking which keeps me coming back. Just really solid debates, and it really makes me smile :-)!! Have a pleasent lockdown and keep safe chaps
@@ThatPedalShow There's an entire community of people who settle down in front of a monitor on a Friday afternoon, and just melt into the show. Hang in there!!
I also like hearing you two chat. For gods sake we don’t need yet another personality-less TH-cam guitar gear review show 100% focused on gear details.
Same. Much as the playing and listening is great, I'd get bored just watching more people playing more gear well on youtube. It's the discussion and knowledge sharing that makes it stand out. I don't want to just watch demos of gear if I'm not particularly likely to buy, but am still interested in. Discussion helps you get more of an idea of the "in the room" stuff that youtube can never properly translate.
I bought the (2017) 65 Blackface Princeton Reverb, and I was Blown-away how Good it Sounded. It surpassed all of my lofty expectations. Has those Fender Cleans . . . they are famous for. Small, Loud & takes pedals well. I will Never be without. I preferred The Deluxe here by a mile. I love that " Chime "
Yessir! I have one too and it's the best on and off stage. Run it at about 6 with a TS and touch of delay and it cuts through the mix with drums, bass and any other instruments. Use the guitar volume and tone for solos and rhythm.
Finally got my first proper tube amp after years of listening to you gents going on about how tubes are just better. I have to say, although I still think there are some decent solid state amps... I won't be going back. It's a brave new (old) world.
Towards the end you guys describe why the deluxe is such a killer “pedal platform,” it lets each of those common (or garden) overdrive types speak with their own unique midrange character. Few amps do that as well to my ears. Also, wow the humbuckers, with their extra midrange into scoopy amps like these sounds magical!
Haha isn't it great we all have different tastes? Before I started this clip, I was sure I was gonna prefer the Super for cleans, and the Deluxe for pedals. Turns out I thought the Super handled those pedals _way_ better than the Deluxe. The clean tones were 50/50 to me. That really depended on the guitars they played and the settings they used. For my tastes and what I play, the Super (slightly) came out ahead. Sadly, both are way too loud for me to be of any practical use anyway. I need a bigger house. And less neighbours.
Thank you for this magical episode! I have watched it twice and looking forward watching it more in the future. I have just recently discovered Ronnie Earl and got obsessed with his music and his personality! I rediscovered Super Reverb because of him this time. Here is my list of players using Super Reverb: - Albert Collins - Derek Trucks - SRV - Michael Landau - Ronnie Earl (with a lot of Reverb and always on Tremolo) - Robben Ford (some times) - Dave Specter (with Archtops overdriven with some Reverb and always on Tremolo, I think) - Carl Whethersby (with ES-335) - Matt Schofield (before 2012 when he switched to 100 Watt Two Rocks) - Volker Striftler (With Tele) - Nick Shebelen (WIth ES-335 and Strat) - Tinsley Ellis
When I was a kid my dad would work half days on a Friday, and if I was lucky he'd come get us from school and take us for chicken and chips or something and maybe even let me have some shandy before buying me some sticker album packs. I loved fridays because of moments like this. But it was NOTHING compared to waiting for a TPS video to drop.
There was not one instance in this video in which I didn’t prefer the Super. Every riff and phrase had more depth and richness - if you can play at those volumes. I know Dan & Mick we’re keeping things as “real world” as possible, but even with that, they’re cranking the amps far louder than I’m able to. I have an Oldfield Honky Tonk D’Lux, basically a ‘59 tweed Deluxe with 6L6s and a Vibrolux output transformer, which makes it a 35w Deluxe. The only time I’ve ever turned it past 2 I got compliments from the neighbors on how Sultans of Swing was coming along 🙄. So, hell yeah, if you can push the amp a bit, the Super sounds amazing. For the rest of us, the Deluxe, or even a Princeton, is about what we can get away with and keep up good relations with family and friends.
I completely agree on your general point. And I also liked the Super more (I already knew that though, the clean tone of a Super is to die for). However, when he pulled out the es-335 at about 26:00 I preferred the Deluxe's natural overdrive way more. The Super almost turned into fuzz-territory to my ears. Which can also be cool and useful ofcourse, but to me the Deluxe won out in that particular section. Anyway, I'm more of a single coil man so to me and how I play the Super would win it hands down. Which brings me to your point. Who the hell gets to play a Super anyway without getting intimately acquinted with your local police officer?
Why on Earth I ever let my '65s go is beyond me. I've had the pleasure of owning quite a few over the years and personally playing, they are, hands down, my favorite amp for everything. Love the show, guys. Be safe. (currently using two Twin Reverbs...love 'em, but...)
I have really nice headphones and all I can say is those amps were rocking so hard I could hear the room buzzing and would describe it a "coins jingling" in the left ear off in the distance. I love it. Audio is amazing. Love to see Dan and Mick being passionate. I guess that's what this is all about. People watch the show and relate.
As always, fantastic show gents - but I must say... Both of your playing felt waaay spicier than normal. You guys always kill it but good GOD this show both of your playing was FIRE. Much love!
Ha! There’s always something exciting and inspiring about a really cooking amp. And VOLUME! For sure it doesn’t work for every sound... but for those it does, happy days!
I still own my original 1964 BFDR as well as my 1966 BFSR. I bought them back in 'The Day' when I was a young rocker. These two amps simply rock like no other! My '64 BFDR is my grab & go and still kicks a$$ on a gig-by-gig basis. (If you know, you know.) I also have many other original amps I bought through my playing career. (to name a few - Tweed '62 Champ, 3 Tweed '60 Deluxe's, '68 Drip edge Vibro Champ, '62 Brown Vibrolux. and various others - THD 30's and THD Plexi's - All tremendous in their own right) Thank You Mic and Dan for an absolutely wonderful review of these two classic and dare I say, 'Legendary Leo' designs. Cheers, Always !!!
Never be brief when it comes to sharing your knowledge. I know I don't just speak for myself when I say one of the reasons we love TPS is precisely because of your incredible knowledge. Awesome show. Thank you for getting these videos in the can pre-lockdown 2.0 I hope the tiering system doesn't impact the show adversely
I own a Bassman 59 reissue and Princeton 65 Reverb reissue. Both great amps. The Princeton does much of what the Deluxe does at a slightly more friendly volume level, but if you play with a loud drummer it will struggle to give you a true clean tone. It does the thing where the mid range increases as you drive it like the Deluxe too. The Bassman gives you all the clean headroom you ever need, but gets Saggy and like a Marshall if you really turn it up, but at this point the sheer wall of volume produced by the 4x10 is just such a physically overwhelming experience and never usable at home or indeed at any gig I have ever played. The Fender reissue amps are great though and do sound like the originals. You should definitely try a Princeton though, it’s just about crankable at home if you live in a detached house! I think a lot of people make the mistake that when they turn a Fender, or any non master volume amp, up to drive it is that they don’t change the tone controls settings to allow for the mids and bass increasing which makes them sound flabby.
Having had a couple of Supers back in my days, and I have a '65 Deluxe RI now, I'll add just one thing: being at one time a fairly accomplished chord melody practitioner, I noticed that the Super made it difficult to hear the interior voices of chords. Years after forming this opinion, I was surprised to find an interview where Joe Pass said the same thing. Otherwise, a fine amp. Re: the Deluxe: I think it may be the world's most versatile amp. The one I own I bought primarily because the Strat neck/middle sound is an important one for me. I call it the "hollow/sparkle" sound, not "quack" tone. "Quack" I can see for playing funk rhythm, but otherwise, I play even jazz standard chord melodies with it. I think of it as guitar's answer to the Harmon mute: think late night, rainy streets, Miles Davis. Very untraditional, I admit, but it doesn't sound anything like "quacking" to me. And the Deluxe did that sound in spades. Why shouldn't it have? Fender invented it, albeit unknowingly. Actually, I had a Vox AC something for a while, and it did that sound even better than the Deluxe. But don't tell Leo.
My first amp was a Deluxe (no Reverb). Good amp. Then I got a Blackface Super Reverb - it was the best amp I ever had! Pushed the front end in with an EHX LPB-1 Power Booster, which provided the OD I needed with my ‘64 Strat. Used to rehearse with our 70’s band with the Super volume at 8.5! Loved the projection of the 4x10’s!
I have a Deluxe Reverb, my second! If you put the Deluxe on top of the Super you have Johnny Marr's most recent live rig! I like a Super with the 2x12 mod! Thanks for the video guys! Always fun!
The fender deluxe reverb once again proves why it’s one of the most recorded amps of all time, put any mic in front of it and you have great tone, keep up the good work guys 👍
There’s just something very special about a SuperReverb. I miss mine so much but just didn’t have the luxury of playing where I could turn it up where it needed to be. It’s prob my favorite amp I’ve ever played......
Thank you for this one ! I must admit that I fell in love with the 4 by 10's since my hotrod deville that I find to be way more balanced than a 112 or a 212 even at low volume there's something special with 410
I have both of those amps. I prefer to play through the Super, but I prefer to carry the Deluxe, do the Deluxe goes with me to live shows. They’re both great amps!
Bought a Princeton "plus" in the 90s as a practice amp... Since it's solid state, I eventually went off it. But (thanks to TPS!) I have found it is a lot of fun in a home Wet/Dry setup. Lovely cleans and nice reverb.
Equally great sounds. Basically a coin flip, BUT... They're both impractical at home. So... BRING ON THE PRINCETON VIDEO!! Just kidding with the demand. I'm just super stoked to hear the killer tones, and I'm thankful to you boys for being who you are.
Love my princeton! Special Ed with 12” Cannabis Rex speaker and upgraded transformer. Perfect for medium loud home playing. This makes me want a super though cause why wouldn’t it?
Note: in many ways I preferred the super on 6 to either amp with any of the overdrive pedals. The amp might not give one enough sustain for certain styles of playing, but I love how crunchy the amp is- yet still sounds big, dynamic, and exciting, where a lot of drive pedals have a "smooth" or flat sound.
An Eb-tuned strat into a tube screamer into a cranked super reverb is THE sound I've been chasing my entire life (guess who my guitar hero is lol). But money and noise considerations have kept me from achieving my dreams 😭
65' Super Reverb RI is my one and only amp right now. It has its strengths and weakness. Pros: The tone is amazing. Punchy dynamic, 3-D cleans, excellent pedal platform, lush smooth reverb without too much metallic "karrang", ample headroom. Breaks up after "3" but I always keep it clean for a pedal platform. Ideal cleans. Con: it's a bit cumbersome to move around. I use a folding hand dolly to transport it, which helps. Weighs less than an AC-30 and many other popular 2x12 combo amps.
Beautiful amps. As a Super Reverb owner and gigging musician (in Australia...luckily!) I think portability is a MASSIVE criteria here. I'm less inclined to take my Super over my Vox AC15 to most venues despite sonic preference. The Deluxe is more compact and convenient hence it being high on the 'next purchase' list. Love them both amd great demos here as usual. Really interesting vid, thank you :)
Anyone else getting some Eric Johnson vibes from Dan on the Gretsch at the end there with that chord improv type stuff? Bloody Lovely! And Mick bringing the fire with that Fuzz Phrase...smokin’. Fab show as always guys. Your enthusiasm for all things guitar and tone is infectious and inspiring. Of all the guitar channels, TPS wins every day of the week!
I've been all over this post as these amps or clones thereof have been what I have used for my gigging years and that dates back to the mid 60's. My mom bought me a '66 Deluxe Reverb back when it was brand-spanking new in 1966. I traded it for a used blonde Bandmaster as we needed more volume!! That was one of the biggest mistakes and regrets I ever made. I was 16... what the hell did I know??
I think the thing I enjoyed about this episode the most was the fact Dan was so obviously impressed. I love the fact that I’ve had so many tonal revelations due to this show and to see Dan having one is a great thing.
Totally agree! Been watching for 4 years and keep having revelations. I think the fact that their content is still at its core about this journey and the both of them having these revelations is why myself and so many others keep watching!
I love both. All of Leo's models were carefully thought over in order to be suited better for different size stages/venues. I think the main thing you are hearing are the 10s of the Super Reverb changing the character and that's why so many people revere that amp. I think a better comparison would be a Vibrolux and Super Reverb. Both of them are around the same wattage and they utilize 10s for their speaker configuration. BUT, there is no arguing that the sound of Nashville is a Blackface Fender Sound
It’s crazy how there is so much variety in opinion over these two amps just in these comments. I was playing in my basement today- a strat through my DRRI, which is one of those FSR models with the Cannabis Rex speaker. I originally bought the DRRI as my Princeton Reissue didn’t have enough clean headroom for the sound I wanted. Here I am again, feeling the same way about my DRRI as I did about my Princeton- in need of more headroom and a “bigger” sound. To my ear, the Super Reverb in this video sounds better to me. Bigger, fully, warmer. I like a clean, slightly overdriven sound. However, the DRRI sounded great in its own way as well. Thank you Dan and Mick for showing me that there is room for both of these beautiful amps in anyone’s arsenal. To think, just last week I was considering purchasing a boutique amp head and cab thinking it would end my tone quest. You guys literally hit every tone I’d ever want in this video. Now to find a Super Reverb!!
Jensen C12K ceramic, solid bottom end, less mid dip than Alnico P10R. P10R softens at bottom, but you have 4 of them to make up for that, also taking the amp down to 2 ohms which affects the drive sounds. Thanks for the tones.
The Super is full, warm, sounds huge. The deluxe sounds 'thin' compared with the super. But I had expected more headroom on the Super, it drove on lowel levels with the es335. That surprised me a lot. Many boutique amps are based on these blackfaces, it's very clear why
Mind you, they had the volume at 6 I believe. Which in a Super is loud, like "if you played it at this level in San Fransisco seismographs and people might freak out" loud.
I grew up in the 60's. It was all Fender (And some Vox), until it was all Marshall as the 60's were ending. When I could afford it, and had to put my money where my mouth is, I acquired a Fender Super Sonic 100 watt head and 4x12 cab. And a Fender 100 watt Twin Amp (Looks like a Twin Reverb). I like Vox, Marshall, Mesa, and many other great amps - but I'm addicted to Fender sounds. For this test, I'll take the Super. If I could justify another amp, I would order a Super Reverb right now.
Great show. The Super really blew me away...what a sound! On another note, I want to thank you both from the bottom of my heart. I just got my Radial splitter from Reverb yesterday. I now have my little spare room rig running wet/dry with a Vox AC4 1x12 (wet) and an Orange Crush 20 (dry). Awesome!!! Just like you said, playing at or around 85-90 dB, running wet/dry makes a world of difference. I've never been happier with my tone. Thanks for all the knowledge, fellas, you guys are tops!!!
This was fascinating. Each time you switched amps I decided which amp I preferred... and then you'd bring out the next pedal and I'd prefer the other amp. (And of course the best sound was both amps.)
You just can’t beat a Fender amp. Period. A simple tweak of a knob and there is that tone. The Deluxe Reverb’s bright cap is set sort of in between the Twin and Super Reverbs bright switch option as well as the preset mid control of the deluxe. The Deluxe tone is more of the Vanilla only flavour versus the more tweakable abilities of the Super and Twin. Yet the Deluxe Reverb preset EQ is quite pleasing which along with its ample power range is why it remains such a popular amp. I truly love what Fender has also done with the Tone Master version of the Deluxe and Twin amp and I really hope they do a Super Reverb and Bassman version. I know a lot of people will go poo poo to the Tone Master versions but I for one have owned the tube versions and I am quite content and impressed with the Tone Master amps. I would love to also own the tube versions but ..... I’m loving the light weight and tone of what Fender is now producing. Nevertheless the tube Blackface originals are fantastic.
Having owned a Twin and Deluxe modern reissue, and now a Vintage Fender Champ and Victoria Tweed champ, smaller amps are the way to go. The magic spot for these amps is when you get them up towards edge of breakup and then push them with a boost/drive. Doing that will get you louder than you want for any house, and I'm in a band and I was too loud to practice with my bandmates on both my Twin and Deluxe at anything over a 4. So ya, I now have two champs in wet/dry and it's sonic heaven.
@@FakeGlasses That’s what I’m enjoying about the Tone Master amps. They have switchable attenuators and you can set them down to room volume and drive them with pedals.
The tones are killer- no suprises there, but what's really standing out to me in this episode are how dialed the lighting and colour-saturation seem to be. And I'm loving that lower angle for the Dan cam. Cheers!
Oh what a nice idea, thanks Dan and Mick. I love my 64 custom hardwired Deluxe reverb and my 1979 Princeton Reverb. Deluxe vs Princeton would be interesting as well. I use my Princeton mainly at home and in the Studio and the Deluxe for gigging (well...ages ago). Grat pedal platforms
Just a thought, the stock speaker in the deluxe is a ceramic magnet (C12N I think), which will sound very different from the alnico speakers in the super. Regardless, love the video/channel. Stay safe and be well guys!
Absolutely correct, makes a huge difference! I’m looking for a transplant speaker for my Deluxe, would love to try an Alnico Creamback speaker or a Weber. Any suggestions on that front?
@@mendamp1715 I put a 60s P12N that came out of a Gibson ga20 in mine and it's great. There are so many great speaker companies now though so I'd just pick one and go alnico.
@@samsmall2214 I am thinking of doing the same: I believe p12N would taime a bit better the bass and less flubby than a p12Q right?? I have played a 65 deluxe with a p12Q and the sound was awesome but I noticed that after 3 on the volume the speaker starts to fart a bit out…
Man that section at the beginning when mick is playing a chord constantly and switching back and forth between the deluxe reverb and super instantly while playing the same chord really really demonstrates how a super has a lot more mids and different tone because of it. I have vintage versions of both (67 deluxe reverb and 65 super) and love them both to the moon but the super having the mids knob is a pretty big deal. That being said I play my DR a lot more just because of volume in the room I play. A blackface vibroverb is very similar to a super reverb in that way and the black face deluxe and Princeton are similar to the DR. You can get vintage super reverbs at pretty good deals still too. Thank god vintage amp prices “for the most part” haven’t followed the extremes of vintage guitars. Just fantastic amps. I think the vibroking and the supersonic are the only two fender “modern amps” that have given me the same tingly feeling inside
The strat in E flat HAS to be in the standard rotation with all of the other star guitars. I cannot wipe the grin off my face every single time you do it Mick. Epic, epic sounds!
I played a Strat into a Rat into either a BF Super or Twin for a longtime. I played a double-bill show with a band called the Drifters in the 80s. Their guitarist used a Rat into an old Twin. It just worked great in a live mix so I went out and bought one.
Im not usually a Fender amp guy but they both sounded great. I waa a little critical of your last video regarding the Tone Master but this video was really excellent. Changed my thinking with exquisite tones. Wow.
Thanks Glenn! I guess we’re all different in terms of likes and dislikes, but what unites us all is that an inspiring sound will make you play better... whatever that sound may be for you personally. Best to you sir!
Mick, the 335, into driving Super Reverb is one of the best sounds ever on TPS! Up there with Joey Landreth with the sliderig, tremolo and verb from back in the day!!
I played one live at some gig, the sound guy from the club constantly telling me to turn it down, and I didn't want to set it lower than 4. There is a big difference to how it sounds on 4 and how it sounds on 3. On the last song I think it was on 5 ahahaha, no one could stop me that night xD one more thing to mention, the amp is very tone sensitive, I mean I pushed it with an MXR GT-OD and if you yank that tone knob on the pedal over 12 o' clock it not only becomes brighter, but also it sounds like you increased the volume overall! Great sounding, but very touchy amp.
Nothing beats the sound of a Black face fender . It took me 28 yrs of going thru amps before I finally bought one . Now it's the only amp I play . I guess I was reluctant because of the whole scooped mids thing but it actually has mids that sit perfect. If u need more hit it with a tubescreamer . I uses mine with a Nobles odr1 and it's Heaven
Having my Saturday morning coffee with your sweet tones is always a great kick-off to the weekend. After a crap week and some mental whatnot, what a blessing to have such a chill reset.
Not sure why such a surprise here...these amps, especially the Deluxe are on thousands of records we love. I saw Larry Carlton use a Deluxe as a backline and he sounded like Larry Carlton. By the way, Robben Ford said there is no need for a mid for the Deluxe because the Midrange is "perfect."
Then maybe we should just shut the channel down, give up and go home. Because guess what kids. A) it’s all been done before, and b) everyone knows everything. Is that where we are? Or is it that this is a particular bit of info that you have and you’re just assuming that everyone else does too?
@@ThatPedalShow A bit of an over reaction fellas - my point was simply the Deluxe is a ubiquitous amp. Even if you had little or no personal experience using said amp, I was surprised, pleasantly I might add (since someone's sensitivity meter is running in tandem with your DB meter) with the jovial response. And yes, my Robben Ford comment on the midrange of the Deluxe was a bit of info for those out there questioning the lack of a mid control.
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There really should be adverts. You tube adverts. Maybe you have them turned off!? Or you’re on YT premium or something?
@@ThatPedalShow i had an ad before the video so they are there
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I pay for YT premium in order to get rid of them. They made watching my favourite TPS show horrible. Now it’s uninterrupted joy.
I get ads on my phone but not on my desktop. Probably my virus software also blocks ads, maybe.
The Super Reverb is undoubtedly one of the greatest amps of all time. It’s just incredible.
I have a lightly used '65' Super Reverb RI arriving tomorrow, Sept. 3rd, 2024, that I found on the Reverb! site. I had a real-deal 60's BF one back many years ago. Why I sold it I don't remember. At 72 I gotta do these things and get as much enjoyment from them as my years left are in small numbers. I also recently picked up a clean hand-wired Deluxe Reverb. IMHO it's far superior to the '65 DR being auditioned here. YEEHAW!! :)
I think this video just illustrates that we need a video of a "fender timeline" 4 eras of the same amp. Tweed, brown face, black face, and silver face.
This would be great!
Anyone know how to tag Joe Bonamassa? Sounds like a topic he would love to join you guys and spend time diving into :-).
Along with Joey Landreth and his brownface with harmonic trem!
You forget the notorious Palm Face era
Sounds like Joe needs to make a trip over to TPS. When things open back up, I’m sure there’s many a travel idea being put on hold at the moment.
I'm a 22 year old that's been a fan of the show for a couple of years now. One night my mom's friend who's been a professional guitar player all his life, touring all over Canada and Europe, came for diner and played through my rig. He wrote to me the next day saying "Man, can I come back to your place with my touring gear? I have to make my rig sound like yours".
If that isn't the single greatest compliment a man can get, I don't know what is. Thanks Dan and Mick!
(btw I'm running a PRS Mira flame top through a Hudson Sidecar or Broadcast -> Kingsley Constable -> Ecochord tape delay -> Catalinbread Talisman -> Strymon Deco into a Marshall JTM and a vintage Plexi-like Traynor in stereo)
YES! Tooooo cooool!
Buddy of mine has a JTM 30 with the extension cab. Has a few great overdrives, modulations and delay and verb. Absolutely awesome tone. Plays a strat!
I’ve been playing 18 months
Justin Sandecoe teaches me technique
My guitar teacher covers theory / turning technique into music
TPS teaches tone / amp, making music inspirational
I reckon all three are just as important as one another! I remember my guitar teacher interrupting me recently to say “that’s one of the best strat tones I’ve ever heard”... AVRI ‘62->Sunface bc-183->Golden Boy->Page->Ardx20->V40D... I said that’s Mick and Dan!
I bet anything would sound good into that rig but I’ve been gassing for a vintage cherry Mira core ❤️ Totally agree with your sentiment, TPS is a wonderful wealth of knowledge. I just wish it hadn’t taken me a few years to become a Patreon!
Dude , that's quite the setup you have. Gotta love an old Traynor !
Mum: 'He's watching that bloody pedal show again'
Dad: 'Leave him be'
Mum: You know it's corruptin' their little minds
TPS is meaningful to the kids!
Or..
Mum: “He’s watching that bloody pedal show again”
Dad: “Leave ME be”
I have a feeling my ten-month-old daughter is going to own her own Fender one day 😉
@@VintageRadius that will be a glorious day
As my mum says:Why can’t they play anything nice? 😂
Those amps overdriving naturally, no pedals, is one of the more beautiful sounds you guys have ever recorded.
I think I agree Frank. Mick here.
I would add that the Tube Screamer sounds pinched and nasty to me in comparison to either amp alone, clean or dirty. The Morning Glory or the Rat makes more sense to me, if you absolutely have to have a pedal on…
The Fender Super Reverb is probably the best amplifier ever, but before you start yelling let me say, I am 74 years old and have been playing guitar for 60 years. I have owned or played just about everything and currently play thru a '67 Super Reverb in stereo with either my Dr Z Z Wreck, Dr Z Maz 18 or Dr Z DB4 and my tone is amazing.
Yes! Thank you Donald. Hope we’re still rocking at 74. Good on you sir!
Sweet! doing the same with a marshall!
Great show! The Super reverb is a killer amp, but to loud. The answer is Vibrolux Reverb. 35 w 2X10. Just got my '65 back from service and I'm in heaven again.
I love the fact that they actually sound significantly different and the super isn't just a larger version of the deluxe.
Never seen a better example of why Blackface Fenders are icons. You guy's inspiration, soul, and fun factor went up considerably in this one.
Now we need the battle of the 4x10's: Super Reverb vs Bassman.
I used both in my gigantic days together. Have both still 😍
I think my dream over indulgent set up is wet - dry - wet, super reverb - 59 bassman - super reverb
Why would you leave the concert out?
And the deville
Or the duel showman
I was given a '68 Super Reverb "Blackline" with the AB763 circuit. I love it.
This episode felt like a "Show-and-Tell" day for Mick. Such a joy to watch you put away 2R and come back to Leo's world mate! Fantastic show.
Cheers!
This confirms it, I’d be perfectly happy with a 65 Fender Deluxe for the rest of my life ... Thanks guys that was fun!
Back in the day a Super for rhythm and a a cranked Deluxe for lead was just perfect. Incredible amps.
"Too much talking"? One of the reasons I watch is because you guys give loads of background info and don't just shred...
That’s good news. Imagine me and him trying to shred. Hahahaha!!! ;0) Thank you.
Talk all you want boys - that's why I keep coming back. Cheers!
Thanks Alex! We appreciate if. :0)
Couldn't agree more 👍🏻
@@ThatPedalShow And it‘s a joy to listen to a show that got their microphones right. I would appreciate if you could share your room setup, there seems a lot to be learned from you even there.
Dan, you really need to reach out to Megan Lovell of Larkin Poe. She's the Slide Queen of the Fender Deluxe Reverb. (I told her you need to build her pedal board as well). Make it happen!
Grew up seeing The Derek Trucks Band multiple times a year often feet from his cranked Super Reverb. Got hooked and acquired 1966 Super. Been my amp for years! Classic tones.
What a great way to grow up. That's got to be good for your soul.
@@gerryjamesedwards1227 Very true!
Ah man. There are many days I wish I was American. Mick here. British music is very cool of course, but it ain’t Derek Trucks and Doyle and SRV and Albert and BB and the other Albert and Robert Cray and, well.... all of those dooooods.
@58:00 my lighter came out, i was at a concert in my headphones, awash in fuzzy bliss. Thank you Mick. And then Dan brought us back down to earth with the Gretsch, Thank you Dan. Terribly satisfying video.
I think these might be my two favourite amps I've ever heard you play through. Just magical.
I always watch for the playing, but its the talking which keeps me coming back. Just really solid debates, and it really makes me smile :-)!! Have a pleasent lockdown and keep safe chaps
Ah, at least there’s one of you! Thank you Thomas!
Yep, I love this guitar tone geekery🤘💜🎸
@@ThatPedalShow There's an entire community of people who settle down in front of a monitor on a Friday afternoon, and just melt into the show. Hang in there!!
I also like hearing you two chat. For gods sake we don’t need yet another personality-less TH-cam guitar gear review show 100% focused on gear details.
Same. Much as the playing and listening is great, I'd get bored just watching more people playing more gear well on youtube. It's the discussion and knowledge sharing that makes it stand out. I don't want to just watch demos of gear if I'm not particularly likely to buy, but am still interested in. Discussion helps you get more of an idea of the "in the room" stuff that youtube can never properly translate.
I bought the (2017) 65 Blackface Princeton Reverb, and I was Blown-away how Good it Sounded. It surpassed all of my lofty expectations. Has those Fender Cleans . . . they are famous for. Small, Loud & takes pedals well. I will Never be without. I preferred The Deluxe here by a mile. I love that " Chime "
Yessir! I have one too and it's the best on and off stage. Run it at about 6 with a TS and touch of delay and it cuts through the mix with drums, bass and any other instruments. Use the guitar volume and tone for solos and rhythm.
Finally got my first proper tube amp after years of listening to you gents going on about how tubes are just better.
I have to say, although I still think there are some decent solid state amps... I won't be going back. It's a brave new (old) world.
Welcome! :0) It’s so warm and cosy in here
My heart skipped a beat when I saw the title, this is a MUST WATCH VIDEO for me
Awesome! Hope you enjoy it!
My 5 month old daughter watched with me today. She loves the playing, not such a big fan of the talking 😂 I'm here for both.
Towards the end you guys describe why the deluxe is such a killer “pedal
platform,” it lets each of those common (or garden) overdrive types speak with their own unique midrange character. Few amps do that as well to my ears.
Also, wow the humbuckers, with their extra midrange into scoopy amps like these sounds magical!
Haha isn't it great we all have different tastes? Before I started this clip, I was sure I was gonna prefer the Super for cleans, and the Deluxe for pedals. Turns out I thought the Super handled those pedals _way_ better than the Deluxe. The clean tones were 50/50 to me. That really depended on the guitars they played and the settings they used.
For my tastes and what I play, the Super (slightly) came out ahead.
Sadly, both are way too loud for me to be of any practical use anyway. I need a bigger house. And less neighbours.
Thank you for this magical episode! I have watched it twice and looking forward watching it more in the future.
I have just recently discovered Ronnie Earl and got obsessed with his music and his personality! I rediscovered Super Reverb because of him this time.
Here is my list of players using Super Reverb:
- Albert Collins
- Derek Trucks
- SRV
- Michael Landau
- Ronnie Earl (with a lot of Reverb and always on Tremolo)
- Robben Ford (some times)
- Dave Specter (with Archtops overdriven with some Reverb and always on Tremolo, I think)
- Carl Whethersby (with ES-335)
- Matt Schofield (before 2012 when he switched to 100 Watt Two Rocks)
- Volker Striftler (With Tele)
- Nick Shebelen (WIth ES-335 and Strat)
- Tinsley Ellis
Yeah, I kinda noticed that whenever I really liked someone's tone, it often turned out that they were playing a super reverb.
When I was a kid my dad would work half days on a Friday, and if I was lucky he'd come get us from school and take us for chicken and chips or something and maybe even let me have some shandy before buying me some sticker album packs. I loved fridays because of moments like this. But it was NOTHING compared to waiting for a TPS video to drop.
Haha! Alan. We are humbled. :9)
I wish my wife looked at me the way Mick looks at Dan when he’s inspired by a sound and playing to his full potential.
There was not one instance in this video in which I didn’t prefer the Super. Every riff and phrase had more depth and richness - if you can play at those volumes. I know Dan & Mick we’re keeping things as “real world” as possible, but even with that, they’re cranking the amps far louder than I’m able to. I have an Oldfield Honky Tonk D’Lux, basically a ‘59 tweed Deluxe with 6L6s and a Vibrolux output transformer, which makes it a 35w Deluxe. The only time I’ve ever turned it past 2 I got compliments from the neighbors on how Sultans of Swing was coming along 🙄. So, hell yeah, if you can push the amp a bit, the Super sounds amazing. For the rest of us, the Deluxe, or even a Princeton, is about what we can get away with and keep up good relations with family and friends.
I completely agree on your general point. And I also liked the Super more (I already knew that though, the clean tone of a Super is to die for). However, when he pulled out the es-335 at about 26:00 I preferred the Deluxe's natural overdrive way more. The Super almost turned into fuzz-territory to my ears. Which can also be cool and useful ofcourse, but to me the Deluxe won out in that particular section. Anyway, I'm more of a single coil man so to me and how I play the Super would win it hands down.
Which brings me to your point. Who the hell gets to play a Super anyway without getting intimately acquinted with your local police officer?
The playing today, boys! Outstanding!!
Turning you both up to 103db and adding overdrive:
10/10, would recommend.
Oh god! And then you add fuzz and whirly-stuff!
For what it’s worth, Fender also built a Yale. The Yale was a 1-12 solid state thing.
Coooool!
Why on Earth I ever let my '65s go is beyond me. I've had the pleasure of owning quite a few over the years and personally playing, they are, hands down, my favorite amp for everything. Love the show, guys. Be safe. (currently using two Twin Reverbs...love 'em, but...)
I have really nice headphones and all I can say is those amps were rocking so hard I could hear the room buzzing and would describe it a "coins jingling" in the left ear off in the distance. I love it. Audio is amazing. Love to see Dan and Mick being passionate. I guess that's what this is all about. People watch the show and relate.
Thank you!
Mick’s solo with both amps and most of the pedals with the whammy dive at the end was sick 🤒 and epic at the same time!!
Thank you!
As always, fantastic show gents - but I must say... Both of your playing felt waaay spicier than normal. You guys always kill it but good GOD this show both of your playing was FIRE. Much love!
Ha! There’s always something exciting and inspiring about a really cooking amp. And VOLUME! For sure it doesn’t work for every sound... but for those it does, happy days!
I still own my original 1964 BFDR as well as my 1966 BFSR. I bought them back in 'The Day' when I was a young rocker. These two amps simply rock like no other! My '64 BFDR is my grab & go and still kicks a$$ on a gig-by-gig basis. (If you know, you know.)
I also have many other original amps I bought through my playing career. (to name a few - Tweed '62 Champ, 3 Tweed '60 Deluxe's, '68 Drip edge Vibro Champ, '62 Brown Vibrolux. and various others - THD 30's and THD Plexi's - All tremendous in their own right)
Thank You Mic and Dan for an absolutely wonderful review of these two classic and dare I say, 'Legendary Leo' designs.
Cheers, Always !!!
Never be brief when it comes to sharing your knowledge. I know I don't just speak for myself when I say one of the reasons we love TPS is precisely because of your incredible knowledge. Awesome show. Thank you for getting these videos in the can pre-lockdown 2.0 I hope the tiering system doesn't impact the show adversely
Thank you kindly Justin. We are indeed privileged to have such a wonderful community here. Thank you!
@@ThatPedalShow we're the privileged ones guys. TPS is the highlight of a lot of folks' week
As a 65 Deluxe owner and long time watcher, greatly appreciate the addition to your group of amps.
I own a Bassman 59 reissue and Princeton 65 Reverb reissue. Both great amps. The Princeton does much of what the Deluxe does at a slightly more friendly volume level, but if you play with a loud drummer it will struggle to give you a true clean tone. It does the thing where the mid range increases as you drive it like the Deluxe too. The Bassman gives you all the clean headroom you ever need, but gets Saggy and like a Marshall if you really turn it up, but at this point the sheer wall of volume produced by the 4x10 is just such a physically overwhelming experience and never usable at home or indeed at any gig I have ever played. The Fender reissue amps are great though and do sound like the originals. You should definitely try a Princeton though, it’s just about crankable at home if you live in a detached house! I think a lot of people make the mistake that when they turn a Fender, or any non master volume amp, up to drive it is that they don’t change the tone controls settings to allow for the mids and bass increasing which makes them sound flabby.
I’ve spent time playing both over the years. Both different, both absolutely wonderful amps, can’t go wrong with either. My favorite is the SR.
Having had a couple of Supers back in my days, and I have a '65 Deluxe RI now, I'll add just one thing: being at one time a fairly accomplished chord melody practitioner, I noticed that the Super made it difficult to hear the interior voices of chords. Years after forming this opinion, I was surprised to find an interview where Joe Pass said the same thing. Otherwise, a fine amp. Re: the Deluxe: I think it may be the world's most versatile amp. The one I own I bought primarily because the Strat neck/middle sound is an important one for me. I call it the "hollow/sparkle" sound, not "quack" tone. "Quack" I can see for playing funk rhythm, but otherwise, I play even jazz standard chord melodies with it. I think of it as guitar's answer to the Harmon mute: think late night, rainy streets, Miles Davis. Very untraditional, I admit, but it doesn't sound anything like "quacking" to me. And the Deluxe did that sound in spades. Why shouldn't it have? Fender invented it, albeit unknowingly. Actually, I had a Vox AC something for a while, and it did that sound even better than the Deluxe. But don't tell Leo.
My first amp was a Deluxe (no Reverb). Good amp. Then I got a Blackface Super Reverb - it was the best amp I ever had!
Pushed the front end in with an EHX LPB-1 Power Booster, which provided the OD I needed with my ‘64 Strat. Used to rehearse with our 70’s band with the Super volume at 8.5! Loved the projection of the 4x10’s!
They both sound excellent, I literally can't choose, but then when I heard that '61 strat in to the Super....OMG!
Guys! I’ve been lusting after a Champ since I was 18. At 28 years old I finally pulled the trigger on a Fender custom hardwired model. Beautiful!
I have a Deluxe Reverb, my second! If you put the Deluxe on top of the Super you have Johnny Marr's most recent live rig! I like a Super with the 2x12 mod! Thanks for the video guys! Always fun!
Holy crap when Mick switched from the Deluxe to the Super on the Gibson at 26:56 ... what a sound. Dan's face says it all. 🤯
The fender deluxe reverb once again proves why it’s one of the most recorded amps of all time, put any mic in front of it and you have great tone, keep up the good work guys 👍
The Fender Super Reverb RULES !!!
Wowwww... I'm with Dan, I had NO IDEA all those sounds were there and I LOVE the Rat into the Deluxe. You guys are awesome!
There’s just something very special about a SuperReverb. I miss mine so much but just didn’t have the luxury of playing where I could turn it up where it needed to be. It’s prob my favorite amp I’ve ever played......
Thank you for this one ! I must admit that I fell in love with the 4 by 10's since my hotrod deville that I find to be way more balanced than a 112 or a 212 even at low volume there's something special with 410
I have both of those amps. I prefer to play through the Super, but I prefer to carry the Deluxe, do the Deluxe goes with me to live shows. They’re both great amps!
Is the Deluxe loud enough to play in a band without mic.?
@@pachi_ in smaller venues, yes (like in a bar). Especially if you set it up on a chair or something. Surprisingly loud amp.
@@dscott501 great, thank you !
I must have watched this episode 5 times trying to decide which amp to purchase. Final decision is the super. Thanks for the great content guys!
Just seeing Blue and Red together again gives me hope for future humanity! The world has a bit of balance today!
Bought a Princeton "plus" in the 90s as a practice amp... Since it's solid state, I eventually went off it. But (thanks to TPS!) I have found it is a lot of fun in a home Wet/Dry setup. Lovely cleans and nice reverb.
Equally great sounds. Basically a coin flip, BUT... They're both impractical at home. So... BRING ON THE PRINCETON VIDEO!! Just kidding with the demand. I'm just super stoked to hear the killer tones, and I'm thankful to you boys for being who you are.
Love my princeton! Special Ed with 12” Cannabis Rex speaker and upgraded transformer. Perfect for medium loud home playing. This makes me want a super though cause why wouldn’t it?
No they're impractical for a bar. Home is the only place you can crank it up.
My 2021 begins with Magic Sounds. Inspired playing. One of the best and most consistent episodes ever. 👏❤️👌🍾👍
Thank you!
Note: in many ways I preferred the super on 6 to either amp with any of the overdrive pedals. The amp might not give one enough sustain for certain styles of playing, but I love how crunchy the amp is- yet still sounds big, dynamic, and exciting, where a lot of drive pedals have a "smooth" or flat sound.
An Eb-tuned strat into a tube screamer into a cranked super reverb is THE sound I've been chasing my entire life (guess who my guitar hero is lol). But money and noise considerations have kept me from achieving my dreams 😭
Do you live in an apartment?
@@51MontyPython Yes, unfortunately
Please do a 4x10 bassman vs 4x10 super reverb! Good opportunity for Mick to use his Eb strats ;)
I’m a Tweed guy. Mainly my Tweed Deluxe and Low Power Tweed Twin. But MANNNN, that deluxe does a similar thing turned up.
I’d like to hear the Deluxe with a 1-12 extension cab against the super. Great show!
65' Super Reverb RI is my one and only amp right now. It has its strengths and weakness.
Pros: The tone is amazing. Punchy dynamic, 3-D cleans, excellent pedal platform, lush smooth reverb without too much metallic "karrang", ample headroom. Breaks up after "3" but I always keep it clean for a pedal platform. Ideal cleans.
Con: it's a bit cumbersome to move around.
I use a folding hand dolly to transport it, which helps.
Weighs less than an AC-30 and many other popular 2x12 combo amps.
Beautiful amps. As a Super Reverb owner and gigging musician (in Australia...luckily!) I think portability is a MASSIVE criteria here. I'm less inclined to take my Super over my Vox AC15 to most venues despite sonic preference. The Deluxe is more compact and convenient hence it being high on the 'next purchase' list. Love them both amd great demos here as usual. Really interesting vid, thank you :)
Anyone else getting some Eric Johnson vibes from Dan on the Gretsch at the end there with that chord improv type stuff? Bloody Lovely! And Mick bringing the fire with that Fuzz Phrase...smokin’.
Fab show as always guys. Your enthusiasm for all things guitar and tone is infectious and inspiring. Of all the guitar channels, TPS wins every day of the week!
The two best amps ever made! Love them both!
I've been all over this post as these amps or clones thereof have been what I have used for my gigging years and that dates back to the mid 60's. My mom bought me a '66 Deluxe Reverb back when it was brand-spanking new in 1966. I traded it for a used blonde Bandmaster as we needed more volume!! That was one of the biggest mistakes and regrets I ever made. I was 16... what the hell did I know??
I think the thing I enjoyed about this episode the most was the fact Dan was so obviously impressed. I love the fact that I’ve had so many tonal revelations due to this show and to see Dan having one is a great thing.
Totally agree! Been watching for 4 years and keep having revelations. I think the fact that their content is still at its core about this journey and the both of them having these revelations is why myself and so many others keep watching!
I just got my dream amp a month ago A beautiful original 1969 drip edge Super Reverb.. there is no amplifier equal to it.. it's just magical...
I love both. All of Leo's models were carefully thought over in order to be suited better for different size stages/venues. I think the main thing you are hearing are the 10s of the Super Reverb changing the character and that's why so many people revere that amp. I think a better comparison would be a Vibrolux and Super Reverb. Both of them are around the same wattage and they utilize 10s for their speaker configuration. BUT, there is no arguing that the sound of Nashville is a Blackface Fender Sound
It’s crazy how there is so much variety in opinion over these two amps just in these comments.
I was playing in my basement today- a strat through my DRRI, which is one of those FSR models with the Cannabis Rex speaker. I originally bought the DRRI as my Princeton Reissue didn’t have enough clean headroom for the sound I wanted. Here I am again, feeling the same way about my DRRI as I did about my Princeton- in need of more headroom and a “bigger” sound.
To my ear, the Super Reverb in this video sounds better to me. Bigger, fully, warmer. I like a clean, slightly overdriven sound. However, the DRRI sounded great in its own way as well.
Thank you Dan and Mick for showing me that there is room for both of these beautiful amps in anyone’s arsenal. To think, just last week I was considering purchasing a boutique amp head and cab thinking it would end my tone quest. You guys literally hit every tone I’d ever want in this video. Now to find a Super Reverb!!
That Straight Into Amp Show! Very fun episode!
Jensen C12K ceramic, solid bottom end, less mid dip than Alnico P10R. P10R softens at bottom, but you have 4 of them to make up for that, also taking the amp down to 2 ohms which affects the drive sounds. Thanks for the tones.
The Super is full, warm, sounds huge. The deluxe sounds 'thin' compared with the super. But I had expected more headroom on the Super, it drove on lowel levels with the es335. That surprised me a lot. Many boutique amps are based on these blackfaces, it's very clear why
Mind you, they had the volume at 6 I believe. Which in a Super is loud, like "if you played it at this level in San Fransisco seismographs and people might freak out" loud.
I grew up in the 60's. It was all Fender (And some Vox), until it was all Marshall as the 60's were ending. When I could afford it, and had to put my money where my mouth is, I acquired a Fender Super Sonic 100 watt head and 4x12 cab. And a Fender 100 watt Twin Amp (Looks like a Twin Reverb). I like Vox, Marshall, Mesa, and many other great amps - but I'm addicted to Fender sounds. For this test, I'll take the Super. If I could justify another amp, I would order a Super Reverb right now.
Shocking how COMPLETELY different they are when responding to gain or humbuckers. I expected a difference, but my word!
Great show. The Super really blew me away...what a sound!
On another note, I want to thank you both from the bottom of my heart. I just got my Radial splitter from Reverb yesterday. I now have my little spare room rig running wet/dry with a Vox AC4 1x12 (wet) and an Orange Crush 20 (dry). Awesome!!! Just like you said, playing at or around 85-90 dB, running wet/dry makes a world of difference. I've never been happier with my tone. Thanks for all the knowledge, fellas, you guys are tops!!!
YES! Nice one Scott. Glad you’re digging it. :9)
Yep. Can't wait to upgrade the Orange to a Pro Jr. Sweet!
This was fascinating. Each time you switched amps I decided which amp I preferred... and then you'd bring out the next pedal and I'd prefer the other amp. (And of course the best sound was both amps.)
We tend to forget how lovely tube amps sound, when cranked, with all these fx units...
Some of the finest moments especially by Mick here!!!
You just can’t beat a Fender amp. Period. A simple tweak of a knob and there is that tone. The Deluxe Reverb’s bright cap is set sort of in between the Twin and Super Reverbs bright switch option as well as the preset mid control of the deluxe. The Deluxe tone is more of the Vanilla only flavour versus the more tweakable abilities of the Super and Twin. Yet the Deluxe Reverb preset EQ is quite pleasing which along with its ample power range is why it remains such a popular amp.
I truly love what Fender has also done with the Tone Master version of the Deluxe and Twin amp and I really hope they do a Super Reverb and Bassman version. I know a lot of people will go poo poo to the Tone Master versions but I for one have owned the tube versions and I am quite content and impressed with the Tone Master amps. I would love to also own the tube versions but ..... I’m loving the light weight and tone of what Fender is now producing.
Nevertheless the tube Blackface originals are fantastic.
Having owned a Twin and Deluxe modern reissue, and now a Vintage Fender Champ and Victoria Tweed champ, smaller amps are the way to go. The magic spot for these amps is when you get them up towards edge of breakup and then push them with a boost/drive. Doing that will get you louder than you want for any house, and I'm in a band and I was too loud to practice with my bandmates on both my Twin and Deluxe at anything over a 4. So ya, I now have two champs in wet/dry and it's sonic heaven.
@@FakeGlasses That’s what I’m enjoying about the Tone Master amps. They have switchable attenuators and you can set them down to room volume and drive them with pedals.
The tones are killer- no suprises there, but what's really standing out to me in this episode are how dialed the lighting and colour-saturation seem to be. And I'm loving that lower angle for the Dan cam. Cheers!
Thanks Daryl. We’re now full frame and using Atomos Ninjas so the colour depth should be better.... thanks to the A7S predominantly. Thanks!
Oh what a nice idea, thanks Dan and Mick. I love my 64 custom hardwired Deluxe reverb and my 1979 Princeton Reverb. Deluxe vs Princeton would be interesting as well. I use my Princeton mainly at home and in the Studio and the Deluxe for gigging (well...ages ago). Grat pedal platforms
Thanks for the comparison! I just ordered a Super reverb reissue because of this video.
Just a thought, the stock speaker in the deluxe is a ceramic magnet (C12N I think), which will sound very different from the alnico speakers in the super. Regardless, love the video/channel. Stay safe and be well guys!
Absolutely correct, makes a huge difference! I’m looking for a transplant speaker for my Deluxe, would love to try an Alnico Creamback speaker or a Weber. Any suggestions on that front?
@@mendamp1715 I put a 60s P12N that came out of a Gibson ga20 in mine and it's great. There are so many great speaker companies now though so I'd just pick one and go alnico.
@@samsmall2214 I am thinking of doing the same: I believe p12N would taime a bit better the bass and less flubby than a p12Q right?? I have played a 65 deluxe with a p12Q and the sound was awesome but I noticed that after 3 on the volume the speaker starts to fart a bit out…
Man that section at the beginning when mick is playing a chord constantly and switching back and forth between the deluxe reverb and super instantly while playing the same chord really really demonstrates how a super has a lot more mids and different tone because of it. I have vintage versions of both (67 deluxe reverb and 65 super) and love them both to the moon but the super having the mids knob is a pretty big deal. That being said I play my DR a lot more just because of volume in the room I play. A blackface vibroverb is very similar to a super reverb in that way and the black face deluxe and Princeton are similar to the DR. You can get vintage super reverbs at pretty good deals still too. Thank god vintage amp prices “for the most part” haven’t followed the extremes of vintage guitars. Just fantastic amps. I think the vibroking and the supersonic are the only two fender “modern amps” that have given me the same tingly feeling inside
5-6 years down the line and still can’t find the horn 😂 love it!!
fender Blackface amps are my all time favorite. I love the Princeton. Great playing Fellas ! Cheers from USA !
The strat in E flat HAS to be in the standard rotation with all of the other star guitars. I cannot wipe the grin off my face every single time you do it Mick. Epic, epic sounds!
Yay! Thank you!
Agreed. That is a very special sound.
That strat is def the stratiest of the bunch!
I tuned my CV Strat to Eb because of the last video where he played it.
I played a Strat into a Rat into either a BF Super or Twin for a longtime. I played a double-bill show with a band called the Drifters in the 80s. Their guitarist used a Rat into an old Twin. It just worked great in a live mix so I went out and bought one.
Great show (as always). I’ve always played a deluxe, a 68 silver face, and never played a ratt into it, definitely going to explore that!
As a long time stalker of the Harmonious Monk can I just say how good it is to finally see it on he board
Video coming next week!
I want one so bad! Haha
Im not usually a Fender amp guy but they both sounded great. I waa a little critical of your last video regarding the Tone Master but this video was really excellent.
Changed my thinking with exquisite tones. Wow.
Thanks Glenn! I guess we’re all different in terms of likes and dislikes, but what unites us all is that an inspiring sound will make you play better... whatever that sound may be for you personally. Best to you sir!
Mick, the 335, into driving Super Reverb is one of the best sounds ever on TPS! Up there with Joey Landreth with the sliderig, tremolo and verb from back in the day!!
Ah man, thanks Jed. It is most definitely a sound!
Just realized I never liked the Deluxe Reverbs I've played because they were never at Vol 6+
This. Totally this.
Nobody hit me please....I think that Deluxe Reverbs sound best with the volume around 3. 🙃
@@JonathanGasper I have yet to play very loud but I think it sounds good between 4 and 6. Overdrives are a bit fizzy below 4.
I played one live at some gig, the sound guy from the club constantly telling me to turn it down, and I didn't want to set it lower than 4. There is a big difference to how it sounds on 4 and how it sounds on 3. On the last song I think it was on 5 ahahaha, no one could stop me that night xD one more thing to mention, the amp is very tone sensitive, I mean I pushed it with an MXR GT-OD and if you yank that tone knob on the pedal over 12 o' clock it not only becomes brighter, but also it sounds like you increased the volume overall! Great sounding, but very touchy amp.
Nothing beats the sound of a Black face fender . It took me 28 yrs of going thru amps before I finally bought one . Now it's the only amp I play . I guess I was reluctant because of the whole scooped mids thing but it actually has mids that sit perfect. If u need more hit it with a tubescreamer . I uses mine with a Nobles odr1 and it's Heaven
No offence but this channel has gone beyond YT, as this episode and others demonstrate. But... I wouldn't want it any other way.
This is for us!
That Super is so sweet, I always wanted one but never pulled the trigger. I have a DRRI, great amp. Fantastic show, thanks for uploading.
Having my Saturday morning coffee with your sweet tones is always a great kick-off to the weekend. After a crap week and some mental whatnot, what a blessing to have such a chill reset.
Thank you Trane. Enjoy that coffee, enjoy this moment. I feel you sir.
Not sure why such a surprise here...these amps, especially the Deluxe are on thousands of records we love. I saw Larry Carlton use a Deluxe as a backline and he sounded like Larry Carlton. By the way, Robben Ford said there is no need for a mid for the Deluxe because the Midrange is "perfect."
Then maybe we should just shut the channel down, give up and go home. Because guess what kids. A) it’s all been done before, and b) everyone knows everything.
Is that where we are? Or is it that this is a particular bit of info that you have and you’re just assuming that everyone else does too?
@@ThatPedalShow A bit of an over reaction fellas - my point was simply the Deluxe is a ubiquitous amp. Even if you had little or no personal experience using said amp, I was surprised, pleasantly I might add (since someone's sensitivity meter is running in tandem with your DB meter) with the jovial response. And yes, my Robben Ford comment on the midrange of the Deluxe was a bit of info for those out there questioning the lack of a mid control.