Why the BCS selection is BETTER than the College Football Playoff Committee (Extreme Controversy)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ย. 2023
- After many years of fan dissatisfaction regarding the College Football Playoff Committee, it's time to look back and see how it compares to the BCS system. Let me know what side you are on in the comments.
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I feel like a 10-12 team playoff would fix the issue because only those teams should really get an opportunity. Some people say what about 16 but I don’t think if you have 3-4 losses you should be in the race, just saying. Only teams with 0,1,2 losses should get a chance in my opinion so this fixes the issue. The only other issue with that is it prolongs the season which increases the possibility of injury but you can always shorten the regular season, which is what Nick Saban stated would be best.
Yes. We are always trying to optimize the sport from a fans perspective, but need to also take the players into account.
I think they should’ve applied the playoff system to the bcs era computers
i am looking forward to the 12 format since the current format is lacking.
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Sooo the committee was created because people were tired of the SEC in the natty and now people want the BCS to return. Fickled!
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If there was an 8 team playoff only selected by the computer’s top teams by win totals, and strength of schedule, it’d be fair. The committee only looks for match ups that can generate most money. SEC makes money.
I agree with you!
Even in the new 12 team playoff, and even looking at the conference champion automatic bids theirs still gonna be arbitrary talks of which group of 5 team deserved in more, like this year with no bowl bans we would have an undefeated Liberty, an undefeated James Madison, and a 1 loss Tulane who arguably would have the best wins of the bunch. So who would u pick to go as the "automatic champion bid" cus no matter what the other 2 gonna feel left out, just curious ur thoughts on that
Typically, it's more clear-cut on who is the best GO5 team. This year is just an anomaly. But yes, there is always going to be a fanbase that feels left out, that is just how it goes. But I'd rather have that in a much smaller amount with the introduction of auto bids.
let's be real here. none of those teams are winning a national championship so it doesn't matter.
16 team playoff. Win your conference, and you're in ANY CONFERENCE. Take this and 6 at large teams and every one is happy. I'm honestly sick and tired of solid programs getting looked over because they aren't in a big name conference. For reference my teams are Florida, UCF, and Liberty; I'm not gonna argue with anyone, just wanted to pose an idea.
Never heard this before, but I like it. It gives me March Madness vibes. The only problem is that might be too many games. The regular season would have to be cut short to ensure player safety. Also, I don't think a 16 would ever have a shot against a 1. Football is much different than basketball.
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT So true but a man can wish T^T
The bottom line is happening because they haven't figured out how to end the SEC's dominance in this sport. Apparently they can't see that 12 spots isn't the answer their but they will learn.
What should they do if 12 isn't the answer?
The whole "SEC dominance" of the BCS era is incredibly suspect if you actually go back and look at the seasons.......
- 03 LSU literally didnt play #1 USC.
- 06 UF didnt finish with the best record and rankings are incredibly sus (#3 LSU was the only Top 10 team who never beat a Top 1o team).
- 07 LSU - 7 of the Top 8 teams finished with the best record. USC, Georgia, West Virginia and Kansas have as much claim as LSU.
- 08 UF - the only two undefeated magically didnt play in the title game; SEC rankings again sus af (11-2 Alabama with Zero Top 10 wins magically in the Top 5 practically the entire season. Literally went from #22 to #1 in the country beating teams that went 71-74 on the season). Plus Utah, Texas, and USC have as much if not more claim than UF for a title.
- 09 Alabama - 5 teams went undefeated
- 10 Auburn - arguably the most eggregious snub in the entire BCS era. 2010 TCU becomes the first team in NCAA history to get jumped out of a title game by two lower ranked teams despite back to back undefeated seasons. Wtf is a team supposed to do when #4 offense, #1 defense (allowed sub 10ppg), #2 MOV (31+ per game), 5 Top 25 wins and 2 Top 10 wins isnt good enough.... Literally a beat a Top 10 team 47-7 on the road and dropped in the rankings......
- 11 Alabama - Contradiction with 06 selection, SEC rankings sus af (explain why 11-2 non-division winning South Carolina stayed Top 10 the entire season despite finishing #24 in 2010). Oklahoma State, Boise State and Stanford all had the same record as Alabama. And the "SEC just means more" doesnt even work against Boise State who annihilated the SEC East Champ in OOC (whom Alabama never even played cuz they didnt win their division).
- 12 Alabama - undefeated Ohio State could play cuz of suspension (yet Tenn with 200 violations gets no bowl ban, makes this situation look extremely sus).
You can call it just whinning, but really there no credible dispute against these arguments.
To be fair its not just against the SEC. Oklahoma got magically gifted title games in 01 and 03. 00 FSU got gifted a title game over Miami. 98 and 99 KSU got absolutely shafted. 04 Auburn got shafted along with Utah and Boise State. Furthermore not all of these controversies listed above necessarily keep the SEC out of title games either. But the point is that most titles in the BCS were not undisputed, so to claim that the SEC dominated the BCS doesnt really make any sense if most of your titles could be disputed by multiple univerities each year.
There is no pleasing anyone. Here is the truth: sec teams will always be there to win. Sorry, but deal with it. It was that way with the bcs,the 4 team playoff, and with the 12 team playoff. When will people learn?
Georgia. Is there too win Georgia
We'll deal with it when the process stops acting biased and stops putting SEC teams on a pedestal at the very start. That's what we have now with this corrupt Committee.
@@stevenvitte sec is above everyone because that is where the best teams are. In the last 20 national championships, 13 are from the sec. So clearly the sec is doing something right. Sec is the most hated conference because they are the best conference with the strongest teams.
@@ranciditySEC has the geopolitical advantage. It’s where majority of the CFB talent comes from.
@@bharp375 so? That just proves my point.
The CFP would've avoided so many issues if they just ranked teams by the BCS formula. From Baylor to FSU, the CFP Committee always found a way to screw something up.
I member when we got amazing bowl games instead of everyone caring only about national championships.
Only 1 team can be the best.
Everyone has that BCS nostalgia
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT it maybe labeled as nostalgia but even though Alabama dominated that era outside of Notre Dame most of those title games were good.
And last year we Georgia beating down TCU 64-7.
Hopefully that's the outlier.
As a TCU student, we’ve gotten screwed out of a very realistic chance to win it all twice in the past 20 years. 2010 should have had the opportunity out of the fact that that team had an astounding amount of blowouts that really showed TCU was a P5 team in a G5 conference. A round 2 against Baylor in 2014 should have happened and whichever team won should have gotten in. 12 team playoff gives the little guys the opportunity that they deserve.
no one thought it was solution.... everyone knew 4 was not enough and that favorites would be picked.... ask TCU and ohio state lol
I remember there being so much hype around the 4-team Playoff for the first two years. Then it died down.
I knew the playoff would be a slippery slope from the beginning. 4 teams is fine. No matter how many more teams you add, people will always say the system is broken and that we should add more teams. The more teams you add to the CFP, the more and more watered down the regular season becomes. The CFP should be reserved for the most elite programs.
I respect this take.
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I grew up during the bcs era. I think if the used the bcs with the 4 team system. the computer takes all the data and presto theres your best teams on data. Human choice is flawed the cpu is smarter in its choice.
There’s a website for the BCS rankings every year. The cfb committee picked the same exact teams except for 2-3 times I think. One was 2014 when the committee let OSU in and they won it. So there really hasn’t been a huge difference between the two models. But with 12 teams now, it won’t ever make a difference anyways.
Can you send me the link to the website? Thanks bro.
@@SaturdayShenanigansYTI guess it’s BCSKnowHow
CFP format with BCS rankings
Here is how you amateurs permanently fix the college football playoff system.
1. You make all of the tertiary schools co-ed, with absolutely no exceptions to the rule.
2. You make all of the schools have football programs, as well as sports programs as a whole, with absolutely no exceptions to the rules.
3. You make the DII, DIII, NAIA, NJCAA, and NCCAA merge together with the NCAA proper, and D-I-FBS and D-I-FCS will merely be divisions rather than levels of play.
4. You make lifetime bans on trespassing on any form of school property on any level of education on any party that throws or fixes games, as well as make them have prison time to serve to pay back such things, and any falsely accused party that is being scapegoated, coerced, or threatened into a false confession of such deeds shall, must, will, and are required to, be tried for the same crimes that they falsely accused someone of doing, as well as any and all crimes that are associated with such current violations of the law.
5. You make the football programs, as well as sports programs, operate like trade, apprenticeship, and internship programs.
6. You are to make the schools not exceed 1,024 schools nationwide. Smaller schools that are nearby can merge their campuses together into larger campuses.
7. The new look NCAA will have 8 organizational sections that are divided into 16 conferences, which will be divided into 8 teams that will have 2 divisions of 4 teams each that are called Alpha and Beta, which will replace the old North and South, as well as East and West, conference divisions, as to make things run smoother for everyone.
8. The new look NCAA will have the following names for its 8 organizational sections. The Football Bowl Subdivision and Football Championship Subdivision will keep their own names, but they will lose their DI main name, and there will be 6 new organizational section names for the other 6 organizational sections. The names of them will be Football Victory Subdivision, which will replace the old DII moniker, the Football Leader Subdivision, which will replace the old DIII moniker, the Football Player Subdivision, which will replace the old NAIA moniker, The Football Honor Subdivision, which will replace the old NJCAA moniker, the Football Glory Subdivision, which will replace the old NCCAA moniker, and an all new organizational section that is called the Football Founders Subdivision, which will comprise of the teams that currently exceed the 128 team organizational section limit, as well as the merged schools, any new schools, any reopened schools, and any reestablished schools.
9. The regular seasons will now be ten games long.
10. Special tiebreaker games will be held in Week 9 if there are log jams in the strength of a conference, and/or conference division. Week 8 can also be designated for such a position if the logjam is a really bad one in the conference, and/or conference division.
11. All schools must, should, are allowed to, and are required to, make full playoff appearances, and that also means the ban of exceptions to the rule like the Ivy League uses in the current D-I-FCS.
12. Rivalry games can still be played, and ditto for their trophies, even if the schools are in different conferences.
13. Conference Championships will now not only happen in Week 11, but that they will also be considered as the first full round of the Football Championship Playoffs.
14. Weeks 8, 9, and 10 are the Wildcard Weeks, and thus can also be called The Preliminary Playoffs.
15. There will no longer be any polls that will influence the outcome of a place in the Football Championship Playoffs, as it will all be considered on the strength of play, rather than the rankings of teams (though the polls are still permitted to exist, as well as the strength of the team schedules, but the both of them will just be overridden when it comes to the strength of the team itself not matching up with the strength of the team schedules and the team rankings), as it currently is with the March Madness system in NCAA basketball, and there will only be an exception to the rule if one, or both, teams, and/or their coaching staffs, officiating crews, and/or other influential third parties, fix, or throw games, which can lead to lots of arrests and harsh bans, as well as penalties for both sides, and a variety of outcomes, which will result in game redos if the officiating crews, and/or third parties, and only one, and/or both groups of people, had fixed or thrown the games, or otherwise will lead to forced forfeits of the games from one or both teams.
16. The rules for the forfeitures also apply to regular season games.
17. The teams that protest against Rule #15, as well as any other Rules that are also mentioned in this message, will have all of their members replaced, and ditto for their coaching staffs, and any protesting third parties will also be punished as well. You either play to win, or you lose, suck it up, move on with your lives, and/or consider that playing sports might not be a thing that you all were meant to do in your lives.
18. Here is how the new Football Championship Playoffs will look:
Season Week #8 - Regular Season Week #8/Wildcard Week #1/Preliminary Playoffs Week #1,
Season Week #9 - Regular Season Week #9/Wildcard Week #2/ Preliminary Playoffs Week #2,
Season Week #10 - Regular Season Week #10/Wildcard Week #3/Preliminary Playoffs Week #3,
Season Week #11 - Conference Championships/Football Championship Playoffs Week #1,
Season Week #12 - Conference Championship Playoffs Quarterfinals/Football Championship Playoffs Week #2/Low Tier Bowl Games,
Season Week #13 - Conference Championship Playoffs Semifinals/Football Championship Playoffs Week #3/Middle Tier Bowl Games,
Season Week #14 - Conference Championship Playoffs Finals/Football Championship Playoffs Week #4/High Tier Bowl Games (this used to be the old location of the New Year's Six and NCAA D-I-FBS Championship, as well as the other Championships, but there will still be Championships here as well),
Season Week #15 - Subdivision Champion Playoffs Week #1/Football Championship Playoffs Week #5/New Year's Six Bowls Week #1,
Season Week #16 - Senior Bowls/Football Championship Playoffs Week #6/New Year's Six Bowls Week #2,
Season Week #17 - All-Star Bowls/Football Championship Playoffs Week #7/New Year's Six Bowls Week #3,
Season Week #18 - Subdivision Champion Playoffs Week #2/Football Championship Playoffs Week #8/New Year's Six Bowls Week #4,
Season Week #19 - NCAA Undisputed Championship Game/Subdivision Champion Playoffs Week #3/Football Championship Playoffs Week #9/New Year's Six Bowls Week #5.
19. Any underperforming teams that are constantly underperforming will be grouped together in conferences until they learn to improve their play. 8 of the 16 conferences in each of the NCAA Football Subdivisions will randomly be chosen to be in a system that is set up similarly to the regulatory leagues that are in professional soccer clubs, as such a system will ensure fairer play, more competitive play, no participation trophy leagues, and that no teams will play so horribly that they are seen as perennial cupcake teams or punching bags.
20. There will always be a chance for a team that is in one Football Subdivision to compete with the teams that are from the other Football Subdivisions as well, thus there is always a chance that the teams will have experience with how the Football Subdivisions operate.
21. The football programs are now banned from having the schools fund them, and ditto for all of the other sports as well, as it will be done with a combination of donors of various levels, through funding campaigns like Kickstarter, GoFundMe, and all of their related ilk, through community access channel, local religious channel, PBS, school, and charity pledge style fund drives, and through Japanese style volunteer after school club structures and funding, along with the previously mentioned trade, apprenticeship, and internship programs.
22. The NCAA Bowl Games will now be staggered into Weeks rather than be randomly attributed as mere consolation prizes, and sponsorship deals. Moreover, the level of influence of certain Bowls will also determine their Rankings, as well as what Week that they will be played.
You are welcome, NCAA and its fans.
people think adding more teams will stop blows from happening but the fact is they are apart of the game its not the nfl where everyone is a pro
What if they just combined the objectivity of the BCS selection system with the current system of 4 teams just have the BCS system like back in the day and the 4 best teams come end of the regular season get in and play on under the playoff format 🤷🏿♂️
That would be great too!!
Facts 4 teams is honestly perfect. People will never want to stop expanding. As soon as a team gets snubbed with the new system, they’ll be calling for a 16 team playoff. It’s gets to the point where you’re including teams that really don’t deserve to be there.
The only thing I don’t like is that a team can win multiple ny6 bowl games each year
I dont hate the playoff, i hate the committee. What i wish we had was that we had the bcs formula, but instead of just having the top 2 teams, the top teams go to the playoff. Or at least to bring in a computer to balance out the committee.
Ironically, back when they aanounced the end of the BCS system, the first thing I tho9ught of was "Great now we will be back to the human bias entering the equation again." The power brokers could not stand not being able to affect the team selection. I thiink we need to mix the two systems. Let the BCS computers select the teams that enter the playoffs but that will never happen again.
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The pre BCS system was perfect. You play your schedule and if you win your conference you play in your assigned bowl game and that's it. College football doesn't need a playoff or a national champion and it needs to stay in the Twentieth Century. Make College Football Great Again.
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BCS is better because only 2 teams with perfect records compete. And with the 12 team playoff a 2 or 3 loss could sneak in. They could win it all with a blemished record. And group of five shouldn't win it all. Imagine having Toldeo winning it all. 😂 And there might be some more blowouts.
Toledo is winning it all lol
the human committee is definitely flawed; they use resume for placement of some teams and eye test for others. the BCS system is superior in choosing teams. you forgot to mention that the BCS computer factored in strength of schedule in additon to the polls, which i think is critical. Sorry, an undefeated MAC team is not better than a 1 or 2 loss Power conference team just because the record says so.
Main problem I have with the playoffs system is how it devalued all the other bowl games. Bowl season as a whole used to be really fun and making any game at all was an achievement, New Year's Six a massive one. Now it feels like teams either go for the top 4 or nothing, and few people seem interested in the other games anymore, many players/coaches included
That's what I just said, the BCS System, the one before the playoffs, was better because the rest of the bowl games mattered more
the fsu hate is crazy in this one. only showing auburns good moments against fsu and not showing fsu’s is wild, especially considering fsu won the game😭
No...
BCS was a horrible system.
No it wasn't. It worked particularly very well in general. It was possibly the ideal way to select a titleist.
@@christopherfoote4643we need a legit 8 team playoff
Are you an OKstate fan? Do you have trauma from the BCS? Lol
The reason i didn't like the BCS is if was only 2 teams. 4 teams is awesome and im assuming 1# teams will be even better
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Just putting the thought in their mind.
Fans were upset with BCS, fans are upset with a four team playoff. Fans will be upset with the 12 team format. You literally can not please everyone.
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The CFP is way better than the BCS… and the 12 team playoff is dam near perfect😒 the BCS is how you got shared Nattys😂😂
12 is too many 8 is perfect
I think 12 is going to be amazing.
What makes you think that?
I respectfully disagree about the BCS being better than the CFP committee. I have been a college football fan since the early 2000s and the BCS in my opinion was much worse.
Here are the list of teams that were snubbed from a title shot during the BCS era:
2000: FSU being chosen over Miami despite losing to them in the regular season
2001: Nebraska being chosen over Oregon despite being blown out by Colorado and not winning their conference title
2003: Oklahoma being chosen over USC despite being blown out by Kansas St in the conference title game
2004: Auburn being overlooked despite dominating their competition
2008: Oklahoma being selected and Texas being left out in a 3 way tiebreaker in the Big 12 South standings despite beating Oklahoma.
2010: TCU being left out despite being top 5 on offense and defense and having an impressive victory over Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl
2011: Ok St being snubbed due despite being conference champions and having a much tougher schedule than Alabama.
Besides the controversy over 2014 TCU and 2023 FSU being left out, the CFP committee has made the right choices overall. I do support the idea of them extending the playoffs to 8 teams instead of 12.
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The snub list is lot bigger than that......
2004 - 5 teams went undefeated. You talk about Auburn dominating their competition? 2004 Utah's closest game all season was a 17 point win, and they never trailed in a single game all season.
2007 - take your pick - USC, Georgia, Kansas and/or West Virginia could claim a title.
2008 - 2 teams went undefeated, neither made a title game. 2008 Utah beat 5 Top 25 teams and 2 Top 10 teams - what are they supposed to do better?
2009 - 5 teams went undefeated. Texas over TCU doesnt make any sense. There is not a metric in existence that shows UT was a better team. Boise State went undefeated in back to back seasons, had #1 offense, Top 10 defense and was the only other team with 2 Top 10 wins other than Alabama.
You have to add Boise State in there. Yeah they didnt play in the hardest conference, but notice how its been 13 years and NOBODY has come close to the records this program put up. 5 undefeated seasons (02, 04, 06, 08, 09) including 3 in 4 years. All time best class record (50-3), All time lowest margin of loss for a class (1.25ppg over 4 years). 2nd best record of any decade for any team in NCAA history (00-10).
@MattBuild4 I actually agree with you. TCU, Boise St, and Utah were the top tier mid major programs from the late 90s to early 2010s. They were good enough to dominate the bottom and middle tier power 6 (including old Big East) teams and capable of being the top teams like Oklahoma, Florida, and Ohio St if given the opportunity. I would say that TCU or Boise St. should have been selected over Texas in 2009 since the Longhorns benefited from the Big 12 being very weak that year. You could make a good argument that the Mountain West and WAC were better than the Big East and ACC from 06-12. The Big East during that time period was atrocious and clearly not on the same as the other major conferences. The ACC was also horrendous during that time period. It does kind of surprise me that Boise St. never recieved an invitation to join the Big 12 or Pac-12. They would have benefited from more national exposure which would help them in recruiting. TCU and Utah became top tier programs within their current major conferences.
When I first heard about the 4 team playoff I assumed that's all it was going to be. BCS top 4. Then then they rolled out this committee and I'm not really a fan of that. I agree with the sentiment, Conference champs automatically in and let the computer decide the rest.
Now don't it always seem to go,
That you don't know what you've got till it's gone.
Yeah that's how I feel about my ex-girlfriend 💯
4:10 Also to keep it real, it’s really about ratings etc
Everyone is just chasing a bag tbh
Wins, schedule, then eye test seems to be the most important factor to this committee. It’s not a bad system but they seem to not care after the first 8 teams then go hard on SEC bias as we see with Missouri
You don't think Mizzou should be that high?
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT not with close call wins against mtsu and Memphis. They have big wins, but to almost drop to those two schools is wild
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT highest ranked 2 loss team and above Louisville. Like I said, sec bias
controversial but i agree
I like the way you think
The BCS wasn't supposed to make everyone feel good about themselves. It was for things like keeping Michigan and OSU from playing in National title while rest of nation had to sit and watch depsite the two teams already playing each other.
I like this take.
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Tcu was snubbed in 2014 not Baylor
I think a committee based ranking is just better than the computer ranking. we saw this year how washington (who was ranked 14 in the smp+ which is the best computer ranking right now) made it to the national championship beating teams like oregon twice and texas along the way. oregon was ranked number 3 in the smp+ and texas was number 7. penn st was ranked number 4 in the smp+ but should they have made the playoffs: no. last year texas was top 10 in the SMP+ but they kinda sucked. ohio st was number 2 in the SMP+ but they defiantly shouldn't have made the playoffs. These are all just examples from one year of football. The best team doesn't always win and the computer model often gets stuff wrong. Again in famous "snubs" in the playoffs era being baylor and fsu. Baylor was snubbed by the national champion, ohio st, who went on to win the natty in dominating fashion. and Alabama was so close to beating michigan being the nation champion and FSU (tho they didn't have their best players in) got completly stompped by georgia and even if they had their full team who was healthy they wouldn't have been able to beat a healthy georgia. In this 12 team playoff era we will still have snubs but if the number 12 team in the country doesn't make the playoffs they wouldn't of had a chance to win it anyways most of the time
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8 is the sweetspot
Valid take. But why 8 instead of 12?
The BCS was bad and people are only looking at it with nostalgia. College football needs to find a better way to rank the teams, but the BCS was really bad too
In 2011 the problem was the BCS system ranked Alabama over Oklahoma state. Under the committee format Oklahoma state would have easily been ranked over Alabama because they were conference champions and had more ranked wins.
@@Beenman2210 And Oklahoma State was the worst team out of the 2. Bama would have smoked OSU, no contest.
@@martinmccormick2166 how do you know this? Do you have the ability to go to a parallel universe where those 2 teams played and see how it played out? Otherwise you’re just making stuff up and your opinion about who would win in a hypothetical matchup shouldn’t determine the standings, that’s insane. If the 2011 season happened under the CFP era, it wouldn’t even be a question who’ll would be the number 2 team. It would be Oklahoma state by a mile. Anyone who would say a 11-1 nonconference champ should be ranked above a 11-1 conference champion with more ranked wins would be laughed at for how ridiculous that was
@@Beenman2210 The problem goes beyond just Oklahoma State. Oklahoma State, Alabama, Boise State and Stanford all had the same record in 2011.
Oklahoma State had the best shot and by resume likely was the more deserving. However to just completely act like Boise State and Stanford werent in the race is simply not accurate.
Boise State never stood a chance, because they were in the G5 and a committee would probably say the same thing. Except the entire "SEC is King" argument could never be said against this team as they DESTROYED SEC East Champ Georgia in OOC that season. The entire narrative of the time also really never made any sense against that team. Its been 13 years since and nobody has touched the records that program put up over 4 years, despite everyone claiming at the time what they were doing was so easy.....
Bcs+12 team playoffs would go hard. No idiot people pushing whatever teams they like and bury anyone they dont care for and a wild tourney
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Screw automatic bids
The data the computer used couldve been biased as well. So in a way, the computer did the same thing the committee is doing now.
No bias belongs to selfish human beings, unless someone being the piece of shit most people are installed a bias algorithm 😂😂😂
We are screwed, everything is biased 🤯🤯😂
There are 10 conferences in FBS College football. All 10 conference Champions get in, 2 at large bids. No one left out. Win your conference and you are in, otherwise you are left at the mercy of the two wildcard slots. Stop cutting out smaller schools. All Conference Champions deserve a shot at the National Championship.
A Caveat to that is ALL conferences must have a Conference Championship game. Talk about raising the importance of Conference Championship games :)
Great take. It would be fun to see all the Group of 5 schools get in. Thanks for watching and supporting! If you enjoyed this video, go check out the rest of my content because I’m sure you’d love it.
It was better before all this stuff. This is a college sport, NOT professional football. It used to be win your conference, accept the privilege of a bowl game and win your bowl game. If you were lucky enough to be cinsidered by the nation as the best agter all thst, congrats. Its a short season with well over 100 teams. The mindset with these new NFL minded fans is to make it like pro ball. Playoff, extend, etc. These are student athletes. It was never about a championship game. The game was better before all that. I get that todays obsession (and ironicslly the persistent human meddling that has ruined the NFL) is to go towards perfection, no controversy, etc. The urony being its even more controversial. By extending the season its just people arguing over teams tjay couodnt even be perfect over a 12 game season. It's watered down what number 1 used to be.
To be number 1 among all those teams over a season 75% as long as the NFL meant every week wss imperstive. Heartbreak every saturday. It was incredible. Now a team loses and theyre alresdy talkikg about how theyll work their way back into the conversation. That just wasn't the mindset before. You beat your rivals, win your conference, accept whatever invitation you get after. Much better tradition that was purely about the football mindset of being grateful and just competing your best. Now its a sideshow. I dont watch NFL or college ball anymore. Theyve ruined what was once America's greatest game.
I guess since I'm young, I grew up in the culture of perfection, so I never looked at it like this. I appreciate you for leaving this thoughtful comment, as you had some good points. I hope one day you can return to watching College Ball. Thanks for supporting the channel! ❤️
"This is a college sport, NOT professional football. It used to be win your conference, accept the privilege of a bowl game and win your bowl game. "
Except if your university was called Boise State, because then the response from the BCS was go f&ck yourself....... 2000-2010 115-7 - 2nd best record of any decade in the history of the sport all time. 5 undefeated seasons, 7 Top 10 finishes, 9 conference titles. Zero title appearance, 2 BCS bowls.
I rather see all playoff teams play on Saturday and do away with the BYEs.
That would be exciting but tough for the players.
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT How could you say that because top 2 teams receive an extra to heal and prepare.
why ole miss vs UG?
Just a recent game of the top team, why not?
Undefeated Utah in 2004 and 2008.
That was a huge win against Alabama in 08.
I would like to see CFP find a numerical way to rank the teams. It should be a combination of strength of record, game control, and efficiency rankings combined into one stat so the rankings are a combination of resume and eye test.
That is the same sort of idea I have. I agree, great stuff. Make it OBJECTIVE. Numbers are necessary, they don't lie.
I think the BCS could be better if they got rid of the Coach's poll. Nick Saban and Kirby Smart arent gonna just sit down and watch Toledo play against Eastern Michigan to see if Toledo should finally break into the top 25. They have more important things to do.
😂😂 Good point, I can't imagine Saban throwing on a Toledo game on his TV late at night. That's funny.
idk why tho saban used to coach at toledo back in the day
@@projectbaby2278 I forgot about that
it should be bcs system with a 8 team playoffs
FACTS
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT yeah i never understood why that wasn’t implemented; it would cause so much less issues
What in the world are you talking about how bias and inconsistency didnt exist in the BCS era? Thats not even remotely true.......
1. You had selections that verbatim contradicted each other (2006 vs 2011 for example)
2. There was significant bias, first in terms of political or conferences vying for support over other conferences for title games and BCS bowls (ie. 00, 04, 10)
3. There was massive bias in terms of Brand Teams over "mid-major" and G5 programs in nearly every single year of the BCS.
The bias against the G5 got so bad that the NCAA and BCS literally got sued by the federal government TWICE for anti-trust and corruption (2002-2004 and 2009-2013).
Numbers don't lie
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT But your using polling data from humans for 60% of your calculation, so if humans manipulate those numbers then its really not as infaliable as youd think.
You say numbers dont lie - why didnt 2009 TCU make the title over 2009 UT.
- TCU beat more ranked teams than UT
- TCU beat higher ranked teams than UT
- TCU beat ranked teams by a larger margin than UT
- TCU beat teams per game by a largin margin than UT
- TCU had a mathematically higher SOS
- TCU had a statistically better offense
- TCU had a statistically better defense
So pray tell, wtf "numbers" were used to put Texas over TCU?
I think you meant to say $$$$. Believe it or not there is reason the BCS got hardcore sued for bias. The 2008, 2009, 2010, and 2011 seasons are extremely biased against MWC/WAC teams. There is no logic that is consistent across all four of these years, and these conferences put together insanely strong teams, but just as previous seasons were snubbed from the title game.
😂😂 yeah bruh the BCS where they put 2 teams in the same division was better. CFP selection has been flawed but it's absolutely better
Do you think the 12-team playoff is going to stick?
And your point was proven again. FSU were snubbed for Texas
Yep. Thanks for going back and watching my old content!
The BCS was not a great system for all. It changed bc Alabama kept being favored. Most of the titles came under that system. Saban got like 4-5 with BCS alone.
Saban got 4 under BCS and 3 under playoff, but 1 of those BCS teams was his LSU teams. In each system he coached for a little over a decade. He’s just the GOAT.
Agreed. You can change the system but it still won't stop him from being the GOAT 😂
@@adamfuller5640 He may be the goat, but that doesnt change the fact that there was significant controversy in 3 of his 4 BCS titles in 2003, 2009, and 2011.
the bcs sucked lmfaoooo i think people forgot how much we wanted it gone. an eight team playoff would be best imo
Why 8 instead of 12? Curious.
The core issue with the BCS was it could only pick 2 teams. There was no inherent problems with it. That being said if the playoffs was 4 teams in the BCS era things would have went much better because the 4 team field came at the worst possible time. And the reason the CFP era sucked had little to do with the format. The BCS era was better because there was more parity not because 2>4.
The BCS system was straight retarded wym, one natty was just an SEC Conference Championship rematch which was just horrible for the game of College Football. A human element prevents that stupid shit from happening.
I like this take. The BCS era of parity was insane, that was my childhood. It felt like College Football was magical back then.
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT 2007 was first year watching. The 2000s had a certain magic to them for sure that is sadly no longer present.
Ya know I get the impression that a lot of people who talk about how good the BCS was dont remember what happened in the BCS..... You think 4 teams would solve the problem?
How does that possibly make sense given that:
- 2004 - 5 teams went undefeated
- 2007 - 7 of the top 8 teams had the same record
- 2008 - 3 P5 conferences had 3 way ties for first in their conference + 2 undefeated teams (that didnt make the title game)
- 2009 - 5 teams went undefeated
Naw bro..the BCS was stupid as hell. Playoff of 12 or more is the only way
I didn't like the two team natty, but the selection actually made sense.
Your Florida State hate is strong in this video.
LOL the fact that I cut off the clip was crazy. Didn't do it on purpose, that was just the amount of time I had for it. That's funny that you noticed, not a lot of people mentioned it. Great game tho, and I got no bad blood with the Noles. Thanks for watching, and feel free to check out the rest of my videos!
Yeah because if this were the bcs thise weak ass schedule playing top 4 teams wouldn't be sitting where they are at
🤯 Shots fired
These are the videos you start seeing when snowflakes get butt hurt
Haha, I'm just having fun making intriguing content. Thanks for watching!
The BCS will still be better than the 12-team Playoff
Wow, bold take, I like it. We will figure out if you're right very soon. Thanks for going back and watching my older content. Feel free to check out the rest of my content because I’m sure you’d love it.
Go Beavs!
GO BEAVS. Hope we beat Notre Dame.@@BeaverWesley
Why are you yelling at me?
My voice just projects like that. Also College Football is something I'm passionate about. *HEADPHONE WARNING* 😂
I never liked the BCS system. There were many times, especially in the 90’s, when the actual better teams got left out. Simple numbers don’t tell the whole story. You can compare stat lines between teams all day long and your pick will be wrong half the time. Meanwhile a team who’s stats aren’t necessarily as good would handle either of the other two. Every other level of play of football has a playoff system. College was the only level that didn’t. 4 team playoff isn’t the best. I’m glad they’re expanding. But it is better than the BCS because you NEED a human element to team selection.
One thing we can both agree on is that expansion is going to be great. Thanks for watching! Feel free to go check out the rest of my content because I’m sure you’d love it.
A 32 team College Football Playoffs Tournament is what should have been used back in 1998 instead of the BCS Rankings crap. The 16 playoff games would be played 3 weeks after Conference Championship games end. Conference Champions get the top 10 seeds and the top 16 teams play home games and each of the top 16 Bowl games will represent the home teams. The playoff selection starts Wednesday 6pm on Fox CBS ABC and NBC affiliated sports networks and local tv channels and that way teams will know who they will be playing and what time on Saturday and Sunday when the playoff tournament starts.
That would be CRAZY. It would be very much like March Madness. The only problem would be the prolonged season, risking player injury. Personally, I don't think a 32 seeded team could even compete on the same level as a top-team. Football is much different than basketball in that way. But this would be great for smaller programs being able to play on a massive stage.
BCS Definitely better
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bro stop using that Chinese spy app its lame af
Hahaha. Just doing anything I can to grow. That's funny you said that.
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Wrong
What do you think?
Lies
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Just so we're clear, you believe automatic playoff bids for champions of the trash 2024 versions of the Big 12 and Pac-12 is a good thing?
Yes. Maybe not the Pac-12 until everything gets figured out. But if not, the power dynamic would be extremely skewed. No one from the p12, b12, or even ACC would be seriously considered. I don't like that.
@@SaturdayShenanigansYT I don't like the idea of the 10th, 11th and 12th best teams in the country missing out on the playoff because lower ranked, possibly even unranked, teams took their spots because someone had to win their crappy power 5 conferences.
Just carve out 1 week in the regular season for the top 10 or 12 to play each other in November... the top 1-6 play.. then the 7-12 play each other that week..boom..problem solved
That would be WILD 🤯
FSU played in the first …3 …BCS championship games winning 1 of them and also played in the last BCS championship game on Jan 6 th 2014 defeating Auburn. We Skrong💪🏼🍢
That era of FSU was different!