I've rewatched S1E07 "Trompe L'Oeil" and couldn't help noticing how Ford greeted Hale moments before Clementine was used in the board's ruse: "Miss Hale, I was not aware those with your level of insight (INCITE) needed any more reflection" Did Ford know of Serac and that Charlotte was his mole? If so, he was aware of the reason why the stray host of S1E03 tried to beam out data to mainland 😲
So I see 4 players at one time or another. 1) Ford and Arnold developing AI (Westworld). 2) William buying them out (Delos) and a power struggle between the two, currently unresolved (Dolores as Ford's heir and the the missing data vs the Delos board). 3) Serac and brother developing AI (Rehoboam). 4) Dempsey buying them out (Incite) and a power struggle mostly resolved (Dempsey and son cut out / dead). But now with the Dempsey's dead, and the Delos board in chaos (William sidelined and the Board infiltrated by both Dolores and Serac) it's down to Dolores vs Serac. Dolores wants Serac/Rehoboam destroyed, and Serac wants Dolores destroyed BUT needs the missing data. If Bernard has the missing data, then maybe he becomes kingmaker, or maybe he destroys it and lets the war continue on. If William somehow breaks out, maybe he makes the Delos board a major player again and it turns into a 3-way battle royale. I guess Maeve is a wildcard in all this, and it will interesting to see if she commits to a side or forges a unique solution of her own.
I love how this show explores things that should of been more explored in game of thrones, like this is Bran we are talking about here. This is almost a sequel to the end of season 8, what happens when Bran is in charge for a while, he would most likely operate just like Rehaboam or whatever the name is.
@@anthonywarren9885 Hey I guess I see a bit past my nose, same entity new story, but Kyrielle Atrinati explains it well, thanks. Maybe though if you rename Bran to Weirwood Neural Network WNN, maybe it makes more sense, Bran stark has nothing to do with this I agree the poor boy probably died in that cave, what I meant is what he has become and what he has yet to become, he will be able to foresee anything and prevent it.
Excellent as always, Robert. Been following you through GoT, ASoIaF, and Westworld and I have to say, you do the best job of putting just enough of your interpretation out there in your recaps and are a great storyteller. I always look forward to your content. 👍
This episode has gotten a bit of a mixed reception but personally i enjoyed it , this episode and the previous one are the perfect example where with cerebral complex story-telling you still have to eventually give enough reveals & information and some of those popcorn cinematic elements to keep viewers coming back. When too little of such things are incorporated and reveals prolonged too extreme durations these type shows can become work much more than entertainment ; this season i felt has struck a nice balance between both , especially myself a huge fan of esoteric , complex , cerebral and mentally challenging series / narratives , even better in the ilk of Westworld when accompanied by big visuals / CGI and adequate action. I enjoyed the dichotomy of getting more of the Rehoboam origins nearly simultaneously as Dolores was attempting to take its foundations down level by level as well as the gradual reveal process going on in general on all sides with backstories and current revelations. The genre drug sequence (which also seems to be somewhat divisive in terms of like and dislike) , I thought it was portrayed quite well and creatively. Definitely shaping up and skewing towards a lot of gray area in terms of good and bad between characters even down to the complexity of intentions and endgames. Not sure why this season is shortened to 8 episodes , a bit disappointing as I am rather enjoying it thus far and find the season particularly strong as a whole. Look forward to seeing what Maeve and Bernard's roles more clearly emerge , how the conflict between Dolores and Serac winds up and personally very curious to get more clarity with Caleb's backstory & arc with all the overall particulars in the last few episodes of the season.
I think that the worst thing about this episode was listenning to that ''Brazillian'' president speaking portuguese. OMG it was so bad even Vincent Cassel spoke better portuguese than him. There are sooooo many amazing Brazillian actors how come they went and got one that couldn't even speake portuguese ?????? the rest of the episode was great by the way ahahah
If I wanted to rub salt in your wound, I’d tell you to take a second look at the tablet serac showed the Brazilian president, it listed the major languages spoken in the area, not only was portuguese not at the top, it wasn’t even on the list
I'm Brazilian and Cassel spoke Portuguese better than the Brazilian president. The Brazilian president spoke some sort of spanish mixed with portuguese with a heavy english american accent.
@@EasternStandardTim yess it is and it's not on the list because it is not a list it's a pie chart and portuguese is on the left at the bottom of the circle precisely because it's the biggest portion like more then 90 %
Not my favorite episode, to say the least, but it did move the plot a lot, despite the cheesy action sequences, so I'm good. Caleb is definitely an "outlier", who had been re-educated and sent to war to die, probably as some mercenary, and his memories were definitely tempered with. He's responsible for his friend's death. And the reason why he's said to be "the worst of them all", might be because he's the outlier who destroys the world. That, however, seems almost too obvious, so I'll predict that Serac himself is in fact that outlier....fated to destroy the world by trying to save it, through that disgusting consequentialist "greater good" creed. We've seen that he's ready to do anything in the name of this "greater good", including murder, mass murder, eugenics...etc. Few last things: Dolores obviously has a special relationship with both Bernard and William, as they both, in their own way, made her who she is. She also clearly wants them to meet. She sends Bernard to the center where William is being held. That could be connected to the salvation in some fashion, whereas she, I think, intends to be the martyr. Bernard almost certainly has the key/keys. Finally, there's obviously something more to Stubbs than him being just a comic relief, whether he is connected to Ford in some way, or even Serac.
Stubbs is more likely to be a Delores plant as he was waiting to be discovered in the Bernards storeroom, which is behind what is actually Delores’ “Arnold” workshop.
@@MsZeeZed Yes, I like that. He nees to have some purpose beyond muscle man for Bernard, although his character (and the actor who plays him) doesn't have much in the brains dept.
Claire Greenhalgh Yes & Luke Hemsworth also had arm surgery during filming, hence Stubbs bot loudly stating shoulder damage. He hopefully has more to do as the S3E1 reveal (while actually guessed) was well done, as enough ragging on his competence had been done in S2 to make a potential “suicide” for a human Stubbs a possible outcome.
The scene in the outlier containment center where Serac is seen with his brother, isn’t it peculiar that he seems to have aged at least twenty years since the flashback while the brother looks exactly the same age? Could it mean that they actually killed the outliers and replaced them with hosts? Also Caleb is definitely hinted at being an outlier, but the dialogue seems to also indicate he could be replaced with the memory of someone else. I am throwing a wild guess out there, since there’s the “you’re the worst of them,” could he be carrying the mind of Serac’s brother?
Unique or one of a kind. The genre tie in doesn't necessarily work because genre refers to a type or a category of which there are many examples. I'm over thinking it because Westworld does that to me.
AhBeeDoi Speaking of overthinking, consider this: in French, as Serac is, "sui generis" is "de son propre genre", meaning "of his own type" (i translated poorly before). He clearly meant to describe his brother as someone unique. Most people missed it, unfortunately. Furthermore, the "flies in the ointment" wasn't what he said ( the translation would be "shadow on the portrait"). Since flies serve as a callback, the translation was appropriate.
What if Caleb is actually Serac’s failsafe for lack of a better term??? It seems to me that Serac more than Delores is a position to use an “outlier” to his own benefit??? A kind of Manturian Candidate, even he doesn’t know he is the assassin until his hands pull the trigger or whatever death is easiest at the time. 🤷♀️ Cheers
I just finished watching the episode and this was the only place I could think of to go and mention that THEY USED A FRENCH AZERTY KEYBOARD FOR SERAC! Definitly not the major point to take away from this episode, but I wanted to throw some love to whoever took the time to either order a azerty keyboard, create one or to rearange the keys on the keyboard they had for those two seconds of screentime when no one (but for the odd observant french or belgian person) would even notice. I literally had to pause the episode to let go of my suprised laughter.
That's what I loved about the episode. It leaves you with more questions which will be revealed towards the end. I like how they didn't spoil anything, it's what makes the show great.
Agree, Bernard probably contains the data for the valley beyond. But why? Because he is not being hunted, because he is technically 'dead' (Arnold was wiped from history) and therefore not on Serac's radar?
I’m reminded of the original Foundation trilogy (Asimov), in which psycho-historians we’re able to predict a macro-version of the future. In this story the outlier was a mutant with superhuman powers, called The Mule. However, the originators of the Foundation had predicted that such a disrupter would probably emerge..... Westworld is packed with pop-cultural references, so I offer you the Foundation trilogy.
awesome info as always my friend. your my fave WW recap channel for sure. keep it up. this was my fave ep of Season 3 for sure. loved all the genre music (esp The Shining being a HUGE Stephen King fan). you rock.
i was considering if Serac could changed his brother's narrative and leave him with a small fortune and a lab ... on an island .. where he could not do much harm :) btw... his brother's name was Arnold
For such a high production values show, I find it extremely strange that they didn't find an actor that could speak proper Portuguese as the Brazilian president. Outrageous
@@anthonywarren9885 I speak Brazilian portuguese and it did suck so badly! Cassel spoke better portuguese than the actor playing the fucking president.
I honestly believe that Stubbs is the more working for insight. I don't think that he even knows that he has been corrupted in use. He is the one that makes the most sense because he would have access to other hose especially after the park issues. I also think that Bernard is literally that key. I think he has the code to the forge and The Valley. I say this because Dolores clearly only trust him and herself to accomplish anything.
When Bernard got the switcher back he did not push the button reversing his identity, he just keep it in the pocket.. I think he is programmed for something important.
I cant wait for the final 3 episodes this season. Its going to be crazy. We got Caleb who I believe is the X-factor in all of this, we got William and his redemption arc coming and Dolores last host pearl is still out there. Really excited to see how the show runners bring all this together.
I have never really disliked anything about this show at all but Calebs drug trips.. I absolutely hated every second of them. Otherwise another pretty good episode.
Kyrielle Atrinati this is a world where robots are sentient and a giant computer controls the destiny of humankind... what kind of drugs do you think would be created in such world? .....
There are people who prefer only a serious mood from the show and will not accept something else, maybe that's the reason why this episode has mixed reviews (adding to the people that hate the fact that Dolores is so powerfull. Would the hate be the same if the powerfull was Bernard, or Ford, or William? We'll never know :v). I personally loved it. It felt out of place, because for the first time, one of the pov was out of place. Also, the writters decided that this was the way in which Caleb could "remember" what happened to him and hence, gave us a lot of information. And while Dolores was fighting and waking up everybody, she was also learning about Serac, showing us once more AI supremacy compared to humans and of course, giving us a lot of information. Also, we learned that Caleb is an outlier, just like Dolores, that's why they are "a diferent type of person". Also, Serac in this episode reminded me to Ozymandias, and his peace constructed in a false basis, where a part of the poblation must be sacrificed in order to bring peace and control the rest.
One think im confused about is why did Liams guard tell liam to run away in episode 4, just for him to send caleb to get him. Seems strange, almost as if Benard wasnt supposed to stop Liam.
Bernard is still not yet incorporated to Dolores's plan. At that moment he was a surprise occurence and Dolores really didn't want Caleb to know about Bernard and that part of her past.
Well, Genre turned out to be a colossal disappointment of a drug. I've been higher on aspirin! Great concept, just not really executed to its potential. Though to be fair, it would hard to do and give us story progression too. I saw a criticism in a review that everybody's reaction to their files was negative. How likely is that they'd all get bad news, asked that critic. Well, I'd say it's guaranteed! Everyone would see something that would miff them off! Either that career they were barred from or just the fact that they aren't permitted to do something. Heck, knowing when you're going to die, and the implications of the system knowing! So yes, Critic G, everyone *would* react negatively! The fly thing with the Brasilia Premiere bugged me (pun intended). I was waiting to see what that was about and it turned out to be incidental! It could at least have been hinted at that it was some kind of flybot being used to knock his focus or something!
... you've had your perception altered more than what Genre did by _aspirin_ ? Uhhhh. No. I mean, I've definitely had effects similar to but stronger than (significantly stronger than...) Genre on LSD simply by listening to a varied set of music in a playlist, so I agree there that how they showed Genre was a bit disappointing (as almost all drug effects shown in media tend to be, sigh). But your aspirin comment is just silly, sorry.
Perhaps the fly representation mirrors season one when Dolores, who barely flinched at the fly, killed the fly, when she said she would never hurt a fly. She's a robot, obviously. This guy was so annoyed by the fly and couldn't even kill it, obviously human. It's a small thing but this show is full of mirror images and stories and it goes as deep as the reaction to a fly from a robot and a human across many seasons. Pretty incredible when you think about it that way.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rehoboam wasn't destroyed in the blast, right? It seems that Connels had the opportunity to destroy Rehoboam, but s/he did not. What would be the purpose of keeping it going?
Clearly no-one in this thread complaining about the drug trips has ever walked around in public with LSD in their blood stream. The random triggering of memory & emotion by exaggerated false colors felt very familiar in S3E5. Clearly those involved in this episode have some experience 😉 BTW I strongly advise anyone not to walk a public road on LSD, I found it very difficult to independently cross a busy street in that state, as tipping my head to the right caused all of the traffic to vanish from my visual field as well as its sound & smell (petrol cars smell like burning plastic in that state FYI) only for all of that to be instantly restored when I tipped my head left. I was very grateful to have trusted chaperone by my side to prevent this causing an inevitable self-destructive disaster. Research on Genre has clearly fixed the issues around dangerously wonky senses so that its safe to take at parties.
I don't believe reality was the last genre, it was horror, the musical cue from the Shining proceeded the reality part, all that stuff on the beach took place after that cue came up.
I think Bernard will be instrumental, for one; I'm pretty sure he's not even on Serac's radar, and if he is I don't think that Serac or Rehoboam know that he's a host, as he like Stubbs was one of Ford's secret hosts who probably has a fabricated human backstory. Bernard may end up being the unforeseen element that inadvertently brings Dolores' grand plan to fruition.
OMG! CALAB IS>>>> The BROTHER OF ZURAK!!!! That is why he is still alive... He was reprogrammed and used by his brother Zurak. He is the one that>>> Did It! He IS the Ultimate Outlier that would take down the system.... That is why Deloris has an affinity toward Caleb.
I think that Caleb inded is either dead an think he is another person that he actually is. Or that he went to Serecs re-education center and was eddited/brainwashed as liam said you did perhaps meaning you finished your program.
@Daddy1724 We already have the Latin word for dolores/sorrows, it's _doloribus_ :) In Italian it's _dolori_ with the accent on the 'i' and it can sound as if there were two 'i'. I forgot how it is in Latin, but in Romanian the genitiv-dativ case for this noun is 'durerii' :)
@@GholaTleilaxu there is no rule for singular words ending in es. 'is' singular becomes 'es' plural (crisis - crises, axis - axes, etc.) 'us' singular becomes 'i' plural (focus - foci, radius - radii). 'um' singular becomes 'a' plural (medium - media, datum - data). My post was meant to point out that Delores, or any variation that starts with 'De' is wrong.
Don’t you think the brother is Caleb ? Bible name like the AIs. That’s why he has the psychotherapy and complex control systèm. Francis is the « French » .. enguerrand. That’s why Liam told him he started this. And why Dolores has « taken » him.
there is also this thing Dolores tells Williams in the psychiatric hospital. « This is the end of the game ». In season 2 Ford says to himself. Maybe one last game.. then he uses « kid Robert » host to explain William that he’s made a game meant for him. A game that begins where it ends and ends where it begins. Then William tries to get men in westworld but ford won’t let him and tells him it’s the wrong place. I guess William will begin his new journey now at the end of the game, getting to know himself and find a meaningful purpose in life. He will end his journey where it began. Certainly in sweet water.
in the movie Future world, the super computer is making it's own robots. what if that facility where William is sent is like that? Serac says they are going there to be "edited". He may have no control over this or even understand how people are being edited. maybe Rehoboam is becoming the outlier?
Ralf serac could still be an avatar if we follow the mirror world or world within worlds theory. He wouldn’t need the holoprojectors if everything in that world were simply a simulation.
Or Serac is outline and he imaginate a lies like this that his brother tell him to kill Dempsey when in reality he wasnt said anything. Structure of the minds that what about this season is. Maybe Serac is not as good as he thinks he is.
Am I the only one feeling the show has become a parody of itself? First the remake of a Rick & Morty episode, now this music / movie genre drug trip? I liked the multi-layered plots and their philosophical twists. Now it's all shallow narratives and action movie scenes. Maybe the plot shallowness is just a hint that this is all a simulation in which we've been immersed since episode 1? Please surprise us again..
It seemed to me that Caleb was also shot behind Delores with no pain or reaction. She looked at his wound twice. They never showed it. Could Caleb be Serac’s brother?
I think "outlier" doesnt mean criminal or malicious, it just, means rehoboam can't predict their future behaviour. Being a predictable psychopath isen't a problem for Rebohoam or Serac, being an unpredictable saint is!
@@Georgious I mean Serac was saying his brother was an outlier..... and he was going to kill Dempski...... and then Serac killed Dempski I'm not equating outlier with psychopath or something like that.... it just sounds like Serac lied about his brother unless he killed Dempski for other reasons but it doesn't look like it
Maybe the fifth Pearl is a Maeve-Dolores host and she is in Berlin. At some point there will be two Maeves in the scene and we wll try to guess who is who.
The reason this episode is bad is because if this were a 10 episode season they would have had the time to SHOW and not TELL Serac’s backstory with his brother’s breakdown. To really get into what he was doing by “changing” him. Instead we see a couple of shots and then it’s told to us. Think the Indian episode from season 2. One whole episode spent on that character. They couldn’t do something like that this season, so things are rushed. Dolores freeing humanity was anti-climactic and happened way too quickly.
I now have a thought that Maeve’s timeline is running in real time and her scenes in the S3E4 Singapore brewery may have taken place simultaneously with S3E3 scenes, which places Connells’ encrypted device in the Dempsey compound not at Incite or the Auction Party & Delores & Charlotte spooning in a hotel bed in San Francisco. Also they wouldn’t have been interested in the location of “the new Yakuza boss Sato”, as I now realise the Mortician called him in S3E4, as he would have still been exiting the brewery in Singapore at the point Rehoboam was back-tracing the encrypted network traffic records. As the original Park is located on reclaimed land in the Spratly Islands (check out the dock sign behind Bernard final scene of S3E1, Rizal port faces West at the most Westerly point of the Philippines straight at the Spratlies, Bernard’s map in the same scene, isn’t of any currently existing Philippine island & also the unexplained Chinese Naval officer on the beach liaising with the 2nd Delos clean-up party in S2E1), its possible that R was picking up Delores-net traffic to Bernard or Stubbs taking a covert southerly route to LA. I’m still concerned as to how Stubbs missed his explosive 6th vertebrae at point blank range, given it’s wider than the barrel of his gun. Putting a plant in the Bernards Room, a place in the Park Bernard would be sure to visit if he returned there, is a very Delores 5-steps-ahead move, given she knows more than anyone how paranoid Bernard could be underneath about “interference” with his consciousness. Whichever way you cut it, we have a mystery host in Berlin & its not Serac’s close aid who “hoped to be friends” with Charlotte, as she died in Connells’ explosion that trashed his comms hardware & logs. All Serac’s focus will now fall on Delos & Charlotte may be the weak component in the Delores Blockchain (except for her massive security robots that seem perfect for an ED-209 style hostile boardroom takeover).
It's DOLORES, the Spanish word for "pains, aches" but in this case with the meaning of "sorrows", the sorrows of Virgin Mary. The names of the major host characters, Bernard, Maeve, Charlotte, all have a meaning and it seems the hosts have been given their names according to the roles they play.
The drug Genre took away from the episode, perhaps that lit dev could have been done better. I saw the co-relate between the computer generations and that could mean another super computer after Rehoboam. Also, according to the “history” of the Bible, King Saul came about because the people of Israel wanted to ruled by a King like the other nations of the earth.
Funny how we have different perceptions. I liked season 1, skipped season 2 as It seemed redundant and was attracted to season 3 after reading 'Homo Deus'. I love this season
I really don’t get the hate for season 2. It’s the best season imo. Has the best acting and character work. My biggest problem with this season is that we just don’t care much about the characters and instead of having a good narrative the all participate in they all just seem to have their own stories that are pretty separate for the most part. Idk I’m just not getting this season I guess. My main response to a lot of this show now is “so”
How can there be people who can't be controlled if everyone's future is planned from the data? How is it that the system can control most, but not all? Is it mental issues, people who ask too many questions? smarter? I can't put my finger on it. I understand the hosts, and how they can't be controlled by Rehoboam 🤯😜SO MANY QUESTIONS!!
So Caleb is an edited outlier. Yay him. Why is that a big deal and why is he the only one that Dolores latched onto? I have to imagine he is not the only person that has been an outlier and been edited. After all Serac has been doing this for years. Just look towards his brother. And Liam has been compromised for a bit now. Why wasn't his access even if read only been denied a while ago? Not to mention if anyone hacks my system I'm doing all I can to get them out. A computer as powerful as Rohoboring just let's Dolores click through what ever files she wants and does nothing? Okay.
What if... Caleb is a host with Serac’s brother’s edited mind? The ages involved suggest that Caleb can’t be a directly edited version of Serac’s brother, but if we assume that Bernard is one of the first human/host hybrids then we can make the jump to Caleb also being one of these hybrids, and that Serac’s brother was edited and put into Caleb because Serac could bare the thought of actually killing him, so his appearance was changed, and his mind was edited and he was sent off to war. When he is on Genre parts of his old life emerge and maybe Liam catches a fragment of himself as a boy in Caleb’s scrubbed memory. And the comment that you’re the one refers to some action that Serac’s brother takes in stead of being linked to Caleb killing his friend.
I don't think that any laws in the world of the show matter in any significant way. Sirak is above the law and using any data he can gets his hands regardless. Our NSA and other surveillance agencies and companies do not respect our Constitutional rights which is against the law. So the arbitrary throwing in of a period of time where it was illegal to gather personal data isn't even necessary except for a meaningless attempt to get audiences to feel like there is some law and order in the real world of the show. Meantime Rehoboam through Sirak is manipulating humanity it what would be considered humanitarian rights abuse on a global scale.
The story is so far away from Westworld. Seems like epilogue. They better bring it back and wrap it up. I prefer the Westworld stories and other unexplored lands. Makes me wonder why a robot theme park is necessary if people can just go off and enjoy their simulation.
So the overall theme is people come to Westworld to become outliers and live out what they can't in the real world cause in the real world Rehoboam charts a perfect course of life for them. If only that was written as a straightforward story then this would be one of the greatest shows ever produced. Instead the show has waisted tons of time trying to fool its audience. What a waist.
True outliers wouldn't have the money to travel to Westworld, much less enter it. Everything is for the rich. No one cares about anyone or anything else. (like hosts, commoners, programmed Rico criminals) I think that's the true story building up - nothing wasted. Yet.
I've rewatched S1E07 "Trompe L'Oeil" and couldn't help noticing how Ford greeted Hale moments before Clementine was used in the board's ruse:
"Miss Hale, I was not aware those with your level of insight (INCITE) needed any more reflection"
Did Ford know of Serac and that Charlotte was his mole? If so, he was aware of the reason why the stray host of S1E03 tried to beam out data to mainland 😲
So I see 4 players at one time or another. 1) Ford and Arnold developing AI (Westworld). 2) William buying them out (Delos) and a power struggle between the two, currently unresolved (Dolores as Ford's heir and the the missing data vs the Delos board). 3) Serac and brother developing AI (Rehoboam). 4) Dempsey buying them out (Incite) and a power struggle mostly resolved (Dempsey and son cut out / dead). But now with the Dempsey's dead, and the Delos board in chaos (William sidelined and the Board infiltrated by both Dolores and Serac) it's down to Dolores vs Serac. Dolores wants Serac/Rehoboam destroyed, and Serac wants Dolores destroyed BUT needs the missing data. If Bernard has the missing data, then maybe he becomes kingmaker, or maybe he destroys it and lets the war continue on. If William somehow breaks out, maybe he makes the Delos board a major player again and it turns into a 3-way battle royale. I guess Maeve is a wildcard in all this, and it will interesting to see if she commits to a side or forges a unique solution of her own.
Maeve is the only AI that will make it out of this simulation into the _real_ world.
I love how this show explores things that should of been more explored in game of thrones, like this is Bran we are talking about here. This is almost a sequel to the end of season 8, what happens when Bran is in charge for a while, he would most likely operate just like Rehaboam or whatever the name is.
I don't see how any of this has anything to do with Bran but you're on autopilot with this one.
@@anthonywarren9885 Hey I guess I see a bit past my nose, same entity new story, but Kyrielle Atrinati explains it well, thanks. Maybe though if you rename Bran to Weirwood Neural Network WNN, maybe it makes more sense, Bran stark has nothing to do with this I agree the poor boy probably died in that cave, what I meant is what he has become and what he has yet to become, he will be able to foresee anything and prevent it.
Excellent as always, Robert. Been following you through GoT, ASoIaF, and Westworld and I have to say, you do the best job of putting just enough of your interpretation out there in your recaps and are a great storyteller. I always look forward to your content. 👍
This episode has gotten a bit of a mixed reception but personally i enjoyed it , this episode and the previous one are the perfect example where with cerebral complex story-telling you still have to eventually give enough reveals & information and some of those popcorn cinematic elements to keep viewers coming back. When too little of such things are incorporated and reveals prolonged too extreme durations these type shows can become work much more than entertainment ; this season i felt has struck a nice balance between both , especially myself a huge fan of esoteric , complex , cerebral and mentally challenging series / narratives , even better in the ilk of Westworld when accompanied by big visuals / CGI and adequate action.
I enjoyed the dichotomy of getting more of the Rehoboam origins nearly simultaneously as Dolores was attempting to take its foundations down level by level as well as the gradual reveal process going on in general on all sides with backstories and current revelations. The genre drug sequence (which also seems to be somewhat divisive in terms of like and dislike) , I thought it was portrayed quite well and creatively. Definitely shaping up and skewing towards a lot of gray area in terms of good and bad between characters even down to the complexity of intentions and endgames. Not sure why this season is shortened to 8 episodes , a bit disappointing as I am rather enjoying it thus far and find the season particularly strong as a whole. Look forward to seeing what Maeve and Bernard's roles more clearly emerge , how the conflict between Dolores and Serac winds up and personally very curious to get more clarity with Caleb's backstory & arc with all the overall particulars in the last few episodes of the season.
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Bernard has the ability to transit from "human" to "robot". I think he has a switch everyone wants to transfer consciousness.
I think that the worst thing about this episode was listenning to that ''Brazillian'' president speaking portuguese. OMG it was so bad even Vincent Cassel spoke better portuguese than him. There are sooooo many amazing Brazillian actors how come they went and got one that couldn't even speake portuguese ??????
the rest of the episode was great by the way ahahah
I've no knowledge of portuguese, but I also thought Cassel spoke it more convincingly than the president fellow.
If I wanted to rub salt in your wound, I’d tell you to take a second look at the tablet serac showed the Brazilian president, it listed the major languages spoken in the area, not only was portuguese not at the top, it wasn’t even on the list
I'm Brazilian and Cassel spoke Portuguese better than the Brazilian president. The Brazilian president spoke some sort of spanish mixed with portuguese with a heavy english american accent.
@@EasternStandardTim yess it is and it's not on the list because it is not a list it's a pie chart and portuguese is on the left at the bottom of the circle precisely because it's the biggest portion like more then 90 %
@@luclindo10 it seemed like the president had learned portuguese like 5 days ago in a hurry just to speake a little bit with Serac
Thank you for the incredible insight of all of the videos from WW and GOT.
So the Rico app is a way to keep the unpredictable undesirables busy
It's a side I didn't think before, now you say that...
And controllable, and directed to create the effects they desire, yes. They're just another part of the system.
Dolores always talked about how the others werent ready yet, do you think she's setting herself up to be the host martyr or something?
Caleb’s genre trip reminded me of the flashback from HBO’s Watchmen.
Not my favorite episode, to say the least, but it did move the plot a lot, despite the cheesy action sequences, so I'm good.
Caleb is definitely an "outlier", who had been re-educated and sent to war to die, probably as some mercenary, and his memories were definitely tempered with.
He's responsible for his friend's death. And the reason why he's said to be "the worst of them all", might be because he's the outlier who destroys the world. That, however, seems almost too obvious, so I'll predict that Serac himself is in fact that outlier....fated to destroy the world by trying to save it, through that disgusting consequentialist "greater good" creed.
We've seen that he's ready to do anything in the name of this "greater good", including murder, mass murder, eugenics...etc.
Few last things: Dolores obviously has a special relationship with both Bernard and William, as they both, in their own way, made her who she is.
She also clearly wants them to meet. She sends Bernard to the center where William is being held. That could be connected to the salvation in some fashion, whereas she, I think, intends to be the martyr.
Bernard almost certainly has the key/keys.
Finally, there's obviously something more to Stubbs than him being just a comic relief, whether he is connected to Ford in some way, or even Serac.
if only caleb could check his inbox
I think his friend is fake, and that killing that man under the peer was his cornerstone moment.
Stubbs is more likely to be a Delores plant as he was waiting to be discovered in the Bernards storeroom, which is behind what is actually Delores’ “Arnold” workshop.
@@MsZeeZed Yes, I like that. He nees to have some purpose beyond muscle man for Bernard, although his character (and the actor who plays him) doesn't have much in the brains dept.
Claire Greenhalgh Yes & Luke Hemsworth also had arm surgery during filming, hence Stubbs bot loudly stating shoulder damage. He hopefully has more to do as the S3E1 reveal (while actually guessed) was well done, as enough ragging on his competence had been done in S2 to make a potential “suicide” for a human Stubbs a possible outcome.
The scene in the outlier containment center where Serac is seen with his brother, isn’t it peculiar that he seems to have aged at least twenty years since the flashback while the brother looks exactly the same age? Could it mean that they actually killed the outliers and replaced them with hosts?
Also Caleb is definitely hinted at being an outlier, but the dialogue seems to also indicate he could be replaced with the memory of someone else. I am throwing a wild guess out there, since there’s the “you’re the worst of them,” could he be carrying the mind of Serac’s brother?
Serac refers to his brother as "sui generis", meaning "of his own genre". Coincidence?
Unique or one of a kind. The genre tie in doesn't necessarily work because genre refers to a type or a category of which there are many examples. I'm over thinking it because Westworld does that to me.
AhBeeDoi Speaking of overthinking, consider this: in French, as Serac is, "sui generis" is "de son propre genre", meaning "of his own type" (i translated poorly before). He clearly meant to describe his brother as someone unique. Most people missed it, unfortunately.
Furthermore, the "flies in the ointment" wasn't what he said ( the translation would be "shadow on the portrait"). Since flies serve as a callback, the translation was appropriate.
What if Caleb is actually Serac’s failsafe for lack of a better term??? It seems to me that Serac more than Delores is a position to use an “outlier” to his own benefit??? A kind of Manturian Candidate, even he doesn’t know he is the assassin until his hands pull the trigger or whatever death is easiest at the time. 🤷♀️
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I just finished watching the episode and this was the only place I could think of to go and mention that THEY USED A FRENCH AZERTY KEYBOARD FOR SERAC!
Definitly not the major point to take away from this episode, but I wanted to throw some love to whoever took the time to either order a azerty keyboard, create one or to rearange the keys on the keyboard they had for those two seconds of screentime when no one (but for the odd observant french or belgian person) would even notice.
I literally had to pause the episode to let go of my suprised laughter.
Yeah they did that and then they couldn't even spell enguerrand? Seriously... 🙄
What about Space Oddity. Why not mention that track?
Weirdest episode so far i dont even know wether i like it or not
I don't like this episode, it's too much informations and the story of Sérac is blur, less developed than it would be. And this vilain is a cliché
I'm a huge Westworld fan, and it hurts me to say that I agree
Salt Water something felt off
I really liked the _look_ of the episode, but I wish they would've expanded on the parks. I hope they deliver a bit more on Sérac
That's what I loved about the episode. It leaves you with more questions which will be revealed towards the end. I like how they didn't spoil anything, it's what makes the show great.
Agree, Bernard probably contains the data for the valley beyond. But why? Because he is not being hunted, because he is technically 'dead' (Arnold was wiped from history) and therefore not on Serac's radar?
I’m reminded of the original Foundation trilogy (Asimov), in which psycho-historians we’re able to predict a macro-version of the future. In this story the outlier was a mutant with superhuman powers, called The Mule. However, the originators of the Foundation had predicted that such a disrupter would probably emerge.....
Westworld is packed with pop-cultural references, so I offer you the Foundation trilogy.
I need the Rehoboam wrist watch. I wanted to badly!
surprise--caleb is the bro
awesome info as always my friend. your my fave WW recap channel for sure. keep it up. this was my fave ep of Season 3 for sure. loved all the genre music (esp The Shining being a HUGE Stephen King fan). you rock.
i was considering if Serac could changed his brother's narrative and leave him with a small fortune and a lab ... on an island .. where he could not do much harm :) btw... his brother's name was Arnold
I’m definitely not the only one who spotted the ‘Space Oddity’ cover, right!
Great analysis as always. Hope you and yours are doing well.
For such a high production values show, I find it extremely strange that they didn't find an actor that could speak proper Portuguese as the Brazilian president. Outrageous
You don't speak Portuguese. Your just jumping on a internet bandwagon.
@@anthonywarren9885 I speak Brazilian portuguese and it did suck so badly! Cassel spoke better portuguese than the actor playing the fucking president.
It's because nobody cares about Portuguese, accept it.
@@anthonywarren9885 funny, because I do actually speak Portuguese.
@@Randy.Bobandy I care, so your statement is provenly false.
I honestly believe that Stubbs is the more working for insight. I don't think that he even knows that he has been corrupted in use. He is the one that makes the most sense because he would have access to other hose especially after the park issues. I also think that Bernard is literally that key. I think he has the code to the forge and The Valley. I say this because Dolores clearly only trust him and herself to accomplish anything.
When Bernard got the switcher back he did not push the button reversing his identity, he just keep it in the pocket.. I think he is programmed for something important.
you were the first one I saw that anticipated Delores bringing Rehoboam agenda public.
Awesome! You just filled in a lot of the question marks I had. Good stuff!!
I cant wait for the final 3 episodes this season. Its going to be crazy. We got Caleb who I believe is the X-factor in all of this, we got William and his redemption arc coming and Dolores last host pearl is still out there. Really excited to see how the show runners bring all this together.
I have never really disliked anything about this show at all but Calebs drug trips.. I absolutely hated every second of them. Otherwise another pretty good episode.
Agree. The drugs scenes brought no value to the story and were just miserable.
Idk about that. My home studio speakers were shaking my room during high peaks of tension. Crazy build up on the audio department.
I think it was an homage to his well known character Jesse Pinkman from BB. I didn't mind it personally.
Kyrielle Atrinati this is a world where robots are sentient and a giant computer controls the destiny of humankind... what kind of drugs do you think would be created in such world? .....
There are people who prefer only a serious mood from the show and will not accept something else, maybe that's the reason why this episode has mixed reviews (adding to the people that hate the fact that Dolores is so powerfull. Would the hate be the same if the powerfull was Bernard, or Ford, or William? We'll never know :v). I personally loved it. It felt out of place, because for the first time, one of the pov was out of place. Also, the writters decided that this was the way in which Caleb could "remember" what happened to him and hence, gave us a lot of information. And while Dolores was fighting and waking up everybody, she was also learning about Serac, showing us once more AI supremacy compared to humans and of course, giving us a lot of information. Also, we learned that Caleb is an outlier, just like Dolores, that's why they are "a diferent type of person".
Also, Serac in this episode reminded me to Ozymandias, and his peace constructed in a false basis, where a part of the poblation must be sacrificed in order to bring peace and control the rest.
Dolores, Bernard, Maeve. The Holy Trinity that will save mankind.
One think im confused about is why did Liams guard tell liam to run away in episode 4, just for him to send caleb to get him. Seems strange, almost as if Benard wasnt supposed to stop Liam.
Bernard is still not yet incorporated to Dolores's plan. At that moment he was a surprise occurence and Dolores really didn't want Caleb to know about Bernard and that part of her past.
Keeping two parts of her plan separate from each other. It got both Liam and Caleb away from the scene so Dolores/Conells could discuss stuff freely.
Well, Genre turned out to be a colossal disappointment of a drug. I've been higher on aspirin! Great concept, just not really executed to its potential. Though to be fair, it would hard to do and give us story progression too.
I saw a criticism in a review that everybody's reaction to their files was negative. How likely is that they'd all get bad news, asked that critic. Well, I'd say it's guaranteed! Everyone would see something that would miff them off! Either that career they were barred from or just the fact that they aren't permitted to do something. Heck, knowing when you're going to die, and the implications of the system knowing!
So yes, Critic G, everyone *would* react negatively!
The fly thing with the Brasilia Premiere bugged me (pun intended). I was waiting to see what that was about and it turned out to be incidental! It could at least have been hinted at that it was some kind of flybot being used to knock his focus or something!
... you've had your perception altered more than what Genre did by _aspirin_ ? Uhhhh. No.
I mean, I've definitely had effects similar to but stronger than (significantly stronger than...) Genre on LSD simply by listening to a varied set of music in a playlist, so I agree there that how they showed Genre was a bit disappointing (as almost all drug effects shown in media tend to be, sigh). But your aspirin comment is just silly, sorry.
@@mduckernz Yes, it is silly. Almost as if I was employing some sarcastic device or something.
Watchmen's Nostalgia > Genre.
Perhaps the fly representation mirrors season one when Dolores, who barely flinched at the fly, killed the fly, when she said she would never hurt a fly. She's a robot, obviously. This guy was so annoyed by the fly and couldn't even kill it, obviously human. It's a small thing but this show is full of mirror images and stories and it goes as deep as the reaction to a fly from a robot and a human across many seasons. Pretty incredible when you think about it that way.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Rehoboam wasn't destroyed in the blast, right? It seems that Connels had the opportunity to destroy Rehoboam, but s/he did not. What would be the purpose of keeping it going?
In Deep!
Clearly no-one in this thread complaining about the drug trips has ever walked around in public with LSD in their blood stream. The random triggering of memory & emotion by exaggerated false colors felt very familiar in S3E5. Clearly those involved in this episode have some experience 😉 BTW I strongly advise anyone not to walk a public road on LSD, I found it very difficult to independently cross a busy street in that state, as tipping my head to the right caused all of the traffic to vanish from my visual field as well as its sound & smell (petrol cars smell like burning plastic in that state FYI) only for all of that to be instantly restored when I tipped my head left. I was very grateful to have trusted chaperone by my side to prevent this causing an inevitable self-destructive disaster. Research on Genre has clearly fixed the issues around dangerously wonky senses so that its safe to take at parties.
Why? Why would you mess up your head and walk around in public, endangering yourself and other people?
The Pearl in Berlin is Angele Merkle. Lmao
I don't believe reality was the last genre, it was horror, the musical cue from the Shining proceeded the reality part, all that stuff on the beach took place after that cue came up.
Prince Procrastinate Agreed, but maybe not horror, how about suspense?
As they soon came to learn, reality (for many or THE many who work, die, suffer for the rich) *IS* a horror!
I thought the red swirled brain pearl signified that that host was modeled off of a real human mind.
All of the visitors of Westworld had their brains "copied". So that applies to everyone.
Yes,proper break down rob enjoying tha series much more with your breakdowns.Thnx,on to tha nxt
I think Bernard will be instrumental, for one; I'm pretty sure he's not even on Serac's radar, and if he is I don't think that Serac or Rehoboam know that he's a host, as he like Stubbs was one of Ford's secret hosts who probably has a fabricated human backstory. Bernard may end up being the unforeseen element that inadvertently brings Dolores' grand plan to fruition.
I've rechecked Rehoboam's logs and have not found any anomaly or disturbances entry at known Bernard coordinates.
Could Bernard have 2 pearls inside him ? Him and another Dolores
Wonder if the brothers played out a Cain and Able type scenario re: rehaboam?
Rehoboam has nothing to do with Cain and Abel.
Was the music when Caleb and Dolores were getting on the
plane at the end the same as when Yul Brynner was tracking down James Brolin?
I think Delores was wrong for showing everyone their fates. That in turn changed their fates again.
but wasn't that the point?
OMG! CALAB IS>>>>
The BROTHER OF ZURAK!!!!
That is why he is still alive...
He was reprogrammed and used by his brother Zurak.
He is the one that>>> Did It!
He IS the Ultimate Outlier that would take down the system....
That is why Deloris has an affinity toward Caleb.
Who is Zurak?
@@Oxmustube serac
@@gideonssemu6549 I know...I was being a dick!
Who is Deloris?
I think that Caleb inded is either dead an think he is another person that he actually is. Or that he went to Serecs re-education center and was eddited/brainwashed as liam said you did perhaps meaning you
finished your program.
Delores put the key in Bernard for safe keeping!!
All I know is that this was my favorite ep of West world to date.
Well Done!!!!!!!! In Deep Geek
"Deloreses"
I prefer HaxDogma's term "Delorii"
Doloreses. Dolorii.
@Daddy1724 In what language would "dolorii" be?
@Daddy1724 We already have the Latin word for dolores/sorrows, it's _doloribus_ :) In Italian it's _dolori_ with the accent on the 'i' and it can sound as if there were two 'i'. I forgot how it is in Latin, but in Romanian the genitiv-dativ case for this noun is 'durerii' :)
@@GholaTleilaxu there is no rule for singular words ending in es. 'is' singular becomes 'es' plural (crisis - crises, axis - axes, etc.) 'us' singular becomes 'i' plural (focus - foci, radius - radii). 'um' singular becomes 'a' plural (medium - media, datum - data). My post was meant to point out that Delores, or any variation that starts with 'De' is wrong.
Caleb is there to defeat Maeve, Bernard is there to rebuild Delores.
Don’t you think the brother is Caleb ? Bible name like the AIs. That’s why he has the psychotherapy and complex control systèm. Francis is the « French » .. enguerrand. That’s why Liam told him he started this. And why Dolores has « taken » him.
Was thinking the same...
Yes, it's full of wordplays and hidden or well, forgotten meanings of names.
there is also this thing Dolores tells Williams in the psychiatric hospital. « This is the end of the game ». In season 2 Ford says to himself. Maybe one last game.. then he uses « kid Robert » host to explain William that he’s made a game meant for him. A game that begins where it ends and ends where it begins. Then William tries to get men in westworld but ford won’t let him and tells him it’s the wrong place. I guess William will begin his new journey now at the end of the game, getting to know himself and find a meaningful purpose in life. He will end his journey where it began. Certainly in sweet water.
I think that Bernard will either find Wiliam in The facility that Delores send him to and get his help or get Seracs brothet if he is still a live.
in the movie Future world, the super computer is making it's own robots. what if that facility where William is sent is like that? Serac says they are going there to be "edited". He may have no control over this or even understand how people are being edited. maybe Rehoboam is becoming the outlier?
I wonder if there was a subtle clue in the fly that kept bothering the president and the fruit but not Serac?
Yes, now the System has patched the insect-human sim interaction algorithms.
So, I guess we know now that Serac is a real person, not an avatar of Rehoboam.
We saw that he was real at the end of episode 1 with Maeve.
Ralf serac could still be an avatar if we follow the mirror world or world within worlds theory. He wouldn’t need the holoprojectors if everything in that world were simply a simulation.
Or Serac is outline and he imaginate a lies like this that his brother tell him to kill Dempsey when in reality he wasnt said anything. Structure of the minds that what about this season is. Maybe Serac is not as good as he thinks he is.
Quick question: If Serac became rich with information from incite, what info/tech did William sell him to get his wealth as Charlotte said in ep 4?
3.5 grams of Columbian mushrooms
Am I the only one feeling the show has become a parody of itself? First the remake of a Rick & Morty episode, now this music / movie genre drug trip? I liked the multi-layered plots and their philosophical twists. Now it's all shallow narratives and action movie scenes.
Maybe the plot shallowness is just a hint that this is all a simulation in which we've been immersed since episode 1? Please surprise us again..
What I miss in that show is the time-line disorder. When we don't know if it's now or then etc.
IT IS a simulation.
What if all of Westworld was created in the simulation by the brother and is his way of bringing rehoboam down
It feels like Serac and his brother are like Ford and Arnold.
Delores reminded me physically very much of Trinity/Carrie Ann Moss Matrix in this episode. The slicked back hair and little leather jacket.
It seemed to me that Caleb was also shot behind Delores with no pain or reaction. She looked at his wound twice. They never showed it. Could Caleb be Serac’s brother?
Probably a glitch in the Matrix :)
isn't Serac an outlier.... because he killed Dempski senior..... so it's a world where the data god serves one of the outliers
I think "outlier" doesnt mean criminal or malicious, it just, means rehoboam can't predict their future behaviour. Being a predictable psychopath isen't a problem for Rebohoam or Serac, being an unpredictable saint is!
@@Georgious Yes this is why Serac needs Ford and Arnolds work. They managed to map the minds of those who are outliers.
@@Georgious I mean Serac was saying his brother was an outlier..... and he was going to kill Dempski...... and then Serac killed Dempski
I'm not equating outlier with psychopath or something like that.... it just sounds like Serac lied about his brother unless he killed Dempski for other reasons but it doesn't look like it
Maybe the fifth Pearl is a Maeve-Dolores host and she is in Berlin. At some point there will be two Maeves in the scene and we wll try to guess who is who.
The reason this episode is bad is because if this were a 10 episode season they would have had the time to SHOW and not TELL Serac’s backstory with his brother’s breakdown. To really get into what he was doing by “changing” him. Instead we see a couple of shots and then it’s told to us. Think the Indian episode from season 2. One whole episode spent on that character. They couldn’t do something like that this season, so things are rushed. Dolores freeing humanity was anti-climactic and happened way too quickly.
This episode was incredible!! Best one imo since season 2 episode 8 about the Indians storyline
This episode sucked bro
@@jjjjjjaylon nah
Billie Eyelash yea
Billie Eyelash Caleb is a terrible character. He just follows Dolores without question.
And Dolores is becoming a Mary Sue at this point.
No comparison, that episode was beautiful. This was pretty to look at but so contrived.
I now have a thought that Maeve’s timeline is running in real time and her scenes in the S3E4 Singapore brewery may have taken place simultaneously with S3E3 scenes, which places Connells’ encrypted device in the Dempsey compound not at Incite or the Auction Party & Delores & Charlotte spooning in a hotel bed in San Francisco. Also they wouldn’t have been interested in the location of “the new Yakuza boss Sato”, as I now realise the Mortician called him in S3E4, as he would have still been exiting the brewery in Singapore at the point Rehoboam was back-tracing the encrypted network traffic records. As the original Park is located on reclaimed land in the Spratly Islands (check out the dock sign behind Bernard final scene of S3E1, Rizal port faces West at the most Westerly point of the Philippines straight at the Spratlies, Bernard’s map in the same scene, isn’t of any currently existing Philippine island & also the unexplained Chinese Naval officer on the beach liaising with the 2nd Delos clean-up party in S2E1), its possible that R was picking up Delores-net traffic to Bernard or Stubbs taking a covert southerly route to LA. I’m still concerned as to how Stubbs missed his explosive 6th vertebrae at point blank range, given it’s wider than the barrel of his gun. Putting a plant in the Bernards Room, a place in the Park Bernard would be sure to visit if he returned there, is a very Delores 5-steps-ahead move, given she knows more than anyone how paranoid Bernard could be underneath about “interference” with his consciousness. Whichever way you cut it, we have a mystery host in Berlin & its not Serac’s close aid who “hoped to be friends” with Charlotte, as she died in Connells’ explosion that trashed his comms hardware & logs. All Serac’s focus will now fall on Delos & Charlotte may be the weak component in the Delores Blockchain (except for her massive security robots that seem perfect for an ED-209 style hostile boardroom takeover).
Impressive.
It's DOLORES, the Spanish word for "pains, aches" but in this case with the meaning of "sorrows", the sorrows of Virgin Mary. The names of the major host characters, Bernard, Maeve, Charlotte, all have a meaning and it seems the hosts have been given their names according to the roles they play.
is this the last season of Westworld? because I can't see this show going forward, after all this plot
5 seasons are planned
The drug Genre took away from the episode, perhaps that lit dev could have been done better. I saw the co-relate between the computer generations and that could mean another super computer after Rehoboam.
Also, according to the “history” of the Bible, King Saul came about because the people of Israel wanted to ruled by a King like the other nations of the earth.
i have no idea whats gonna happen.
"We didn't learn nothing about Caleb based on this episode" - Stephen A Smith.
Can someone explain if Bernard is Bernard or if Bernard is Delores?
And what if the World they are in this season is just a simulation, another test.
Is it just me or did the young Liam Dempsey Jr. look a lot like the young Ford host in Season 1?
Not sure where to take that if it is accurate. Hmm.
This is one of my favorite shows. That being said this season isn’t doin it for me.
On the other hand, for me, this is the best season, or a best start to the season so far
Ivan Drz I agree with u Ivan, definitely the best 4 episode start they’ve had, there so much goin on and so many different themes, it’s incredible
Is is getting a little stale.
Funny how we have different perceptions. I liked season 1, skipped season 2 as It seemed redundant and was attracted to season 3 after reading 'Homo Deus'. I love this season
I really don’t get the hate for season 2. It’s the best season imo. Has the best acting and character work. My biggest problem with this season is that we just don’t care much about the characters and instead of having a good narrative the all participate in they all just seem to have their own stories that are pretty separate for the most part. Idk I’m just not getting this season I guess. My main response to a lot of this show now is “so”
Where's the mention of death grips in the genres???????????????
I really miss the charme of the wild west and shogun world, it's only futuristic anymore. That sucks.
i feel like it is going to circle back to the park again at some point this season
@@ohwhatacutup location-wise, I'm sure it will, it's just that the story moved on from the whole western feel. It had to, but still, I miss it
How can there be people who can't be controlled if everyone's future is planned from the data? How is it that the system can control most, but not all? Is it mental issues, people who ask too many questions? smarter? I can't put my finger on it. I understand the hosts, and how they can't be controlled by Rehoboam 🤯😜SO MANY QUESTIONS!!
A glitch in the Matrix :)
@@GholaTleilaxu my friend made that same reference today 😁✌️I saw that movie once. Years ago. Need to watch again.
"Kaye lebbbbbbb" :/
So Caleb is an edited outlier. Yay him. Why is that a big deal and why is he the only one that Dolores latched onto? I have to imagine he is not the only person that has been an outlier and been edited. After all Serac has been doing this for years. Just look towards his brother. And Liam has been compromised for a bit now. Why wasn't his access even if read only been denied a while ago? Not to mention if anyone hacks my system I'm doing all I can to get them out. A computer as powerful as Rohoboring just let's Dolores click through what ever files she wants and does nothing? Okay.
Very odd episode that we probably won't fully understand until the end of the season.
What if... Caleb is a host with Serac’s brother’s edited mind? The ages involved suggest that Caleb can’t be a directly edited version of Serac’s brother, but if we assume that Bernard is one of the first human/host hybrids then we can make the jump to Caleb also being one of these hybrids, and that Serac’s brother was edited and put into Caleb because Serac could bare the thought of actually killing him, so his appearance was changed, and his mind was edited and he was sent off to war. When he is on Genre parts of his old life emerge and maybe Liam catches a fragment of himself as a boy in Caleb’s scrubbed memory. And the comment that you’re the one refers to some action that Serac’s brother takes in stead of being linked to Caleb killing his friend.
I don't think that any laws in the world of the show matter in any significant way. Sirak is above the law and using any data he can gets his hands regardless. Our NSA and other surveillance agencies and companies do not respect our Constitutional rights which is against the law. So the arbitrary throwing in of a period of time where it was illegal to gather personal data isn't even necessary except for a meaningless attempt to get audiences to feel like there is some law and order in the real world of the show. Meantime Rehoboam through Sirak is manipulating humanity it what would be considered humanitarian rights abuse on a global scale.
Well, Kalib kills all humanity I reckon.
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The story is so far away from Westworld. Seems like epilogue. They better bring it back and wrap it up. I prefer the Westworld stories and other unexplored lands. Makes me wonder why a robot theme park is necessary if people can just go off and enjoy their simulation.
I just hope they don't pull a GoT on us.
Almost 1st😜Always love your videos Robert ❤️✌️
Walk a mile in my shoes.
I hope dolores will win and end humanity.
Pff...this show was never about ending humanity no matter how many nihilistic wishes you lot may have.
such a disappointing episode
I’m enjoying this show less and less with each episode.. starting back in season 2, really.
This episode looked cheap
So the overall theme is people come to Westworld to become outliers and live out what they can't in the real world cause in the real world Rehoboam charts a perfect course of life for them. If only that was written as a straightforward story then this would be one of the greatest shows ever produced. Instead the show has waisted tons of time trying to fool its audience. What a waist.
True outliers wouldn't have the money to travel to Westworld, much less enter it. Everything is for the rich. No one cares about anyone or anything else. (like hosts, commoners, programmed Rico criminals) I think that's the true story building up - nothing wasted. Yet.
Westworld Season 3 Explained: Not as bad as Season 2 but still pretty bad
did not like this one