Why there are no good English Managers

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  • @andrewharewood1801
    @andrewharewood1801 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    They need to go to do coaching courses while playing football during summer break.

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Especially at grassroots and at lower levels. Or even have scouts that scout future managers and have some sort of scheme created.

  • @jamesfretwell1511
    @jamesfretwell1511 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They dont exactly get a chance. Eddie Howe did, and took it with both hands. There was a time were we had plenty managers in the top flight who were English. Bobby Robson and Kevin Keegan managed Newcastle at the top end of the league.

    • @oldskoolmusicnostalgia
      @oldskoolmusicnostalgia 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh God, this nonsense again... what did Potter and Lampard achieve with their "chances"? Howe, good as he may be, has Newcastle in mid-table.

  • @DaveSeville-sf1ku
    @DaveSeville-sf1ku หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the lack of coaching in the UK.
    Spain has a lot of Uefa licensed coaches.
    The cost in the UK and even Ireland is absolutely extortionate and is affecting the English and British game in general, sadly.

  • @oldskoolmusicnostalgia
    @oldskoolmusicnostalgia 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Enzo Maresca at Chelsea is single-handedly destroying the "English coaches don't get chances" narrative. We all saw what Potter and Lampard did at Chelsea when they were given the chance.

  • @AnxiousGuy655
    @AnxiousGuy655 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Boss Quality Vid

  • @leeoulds9540
    @leeoulds9540 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You have to go back to the 80’s for Arsenal’s last English manager. Bruce Rioch who is pictured is Scottish.

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was debating this being put in the video. Rioch is half-Scottish and half-English and represented the Scottish national team. However as he was born in England and still classified as half-English so I decided to put him in still.

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But yes you are right, the last “fully English” manager was Burtenshaw in 1986

    • @leeoulds9540
      @leeoulds9540 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow, didn’t know that about Rioch. Fair play. Great vid btw 👍

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, comments like that convince me to keep going!

  • @waynekeebler6755
    @waynekeebler6755 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The English play too much kick and run soccer. There is little attempt to control the tempo of the game which is essential for tactical excellence.

  • @topg9552
    @topg9552 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Just look at Gareth Southgate, 2 out of 10 for me. Poor manager. Too defensive, parks the bus & hates trying to attack
    That’s our standard right at the top of the uk pyramid so imagine what happens below it
    A certificate doesn’t make you great. I talk to many managers across the board. Our managers have to be brave & think outside the box rather than copy pep guardiola.
    Also our football is dying as top level require athletes not ballers

    • @marktheshark7588
      @marktheshark7588 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Facts.Also,the reason that England reached to two euro finals back to back is due to luck and their good players.It wasn't due to Southgate's coaching.

  • @liamthomas-fn7fc
    @liamthomas-fn7fc 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Big Sam is a good manager but he's never really been given the chance, Bolton didn't have ambition for the champions league that's why he left and they was no reason for Everton to sack him he got them a top 8 finish after keeping them from relegation. With leeds he only had four games to save a club and with the england job the fa didn't give him a second chance and it was arguably a set up with the press being there.

  • @syn_tekken3055
    @syn_tekken3055 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    There’s plenty of good English managers. It comes down to what you contextuaise ‘good’ as.
    Case in point: Sean Dyche. Yes yes, brexit football bla bla bla.
    He got Burnley from the championship into Europe. But we all pretend Dyche is a dinosaur and Marcelo Bielsa was a better coach at Leeds, conceding 4 every week.
    Eddie Howe got UCL football and battered PSG with Newcastle.
    Sam Allerdyce was instrumental in bringing in the sports science and fitness routines of modern footballers to the prem.
    So much of the English contribution in management gets VASTLY overlooked by people, because the premier league has been more or less dominated by 5 managers:
    Ferguson
    Guardiola
    Wenger
    Mourinho
    Klopp
    In that order.
    What about Brian Clough, Sir Bobby Robson? 😢

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Completely agree with you mate, especially when you say what is contextualised as “good”. Plenty of “good” English managers exist just not plenty of “good enough” it seems. Brian Clough and Sir Bobby Robson (may they rest in peace) are the kind of men we wish we had today in modern English football management.

    • @syn_tekken3055
      @syn_tekken3055 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @
      Honestly I think in that regard, the prem is a victim of its own success because of the international management. Chelsea will give Enzo a try, but can you imagine Utd or Arsenal going for a top up and coming English manager from the championship or whatever? Its just not sexy, y’know?

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Oh yeah 100%, a Championship manager would never be selected as it’s not the “norm” and it’s not the thing clubs do and we are so use to the stereotype of a ‘world class’ manager from overseas. If a Championship manager came in to a big Premier League Club I think most fans would start complaining before they even watched a game or understood the mangers skill or tactics. They would see where he came from and assume the worst.

    • @oldskoolmusicnostalgia
      @oldskoolmusicnostalgia 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      So much of the English contribution in management gets VASTLY overlooked by people, because the vast majority of managers are foreigners.
      There, solved that for you.

  • @rodbennett4689
    @rodbennett4689 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No mention of Kieran McKenna?

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      He’s Northern Irish. But a very good manager!

    • @rodbennett4689
      @rodbennett4689 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@ThatFootballCommentator He was born in London, brought up in Northern Ireland, lived in England since age 16yrs.... destined for the very top

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      fair enough, certainly seen his skills with back to back promotion. Cannot be underestimated or under-looked.

  • @terrencechristopher7031
    @terrencechristopher7031 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The not wanted in Europe 😅

  • @joeswift5296
    @joeswift5296 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Who’s Nigel Clow ? Did you mean Clough (pronounced Cluff) ? His dad was a decent manager, ever heard of Brian Clough ?

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I meant Clough (I normally spell names phonetically on my script and must of missed it frustratingly). He’s been incredible at Mansfield!
      I am of course aware of his dad, who was an alright manager I guess. 😉

  • @terrencechristopher7031
    @terrencechristopher7031 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    They are,nt good enough, facts, 😮😮

    • @bnk777
      @bnk777 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah but why?

    • @terrencechristopher7031
      @terrencechristopher7031 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @bnk777 when was the ladt time n English manager won the PL, let,s start there

  • @maropengrampyapedi938
    @maropengrampyapedi938 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How's zidane a good manager,he even a manager..the video is definitely not worth watching..

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      So you think winning The Champions League three seasons in a row is easy? That requires a quality manager and Zidane was that manager.

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It would be easier to admit you watched 15 seconds, commented and left.

    • @whyayyyerrlaffinfhorr2152
      @whyayyyerrlaffinfhorr2152 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What crack are you using brother?

  • @GoonGumpas
    @GoonGumpas หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a load of BS. There’s just as many English managers abroad than Germany and France. There’s loads of former pros who are pundits across Europe too. LOL. Worst vid.

    • @ThatFootballCommentator
      @ThatFootballCommentator  หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      More English managers stay in England compared to European managers who stay in their country. That is a fact. This is all backed by factual evidence. If you’d love to weigh in your reasoning on why there are no English managers and try to produce a video yourself then be my guest.

    • @SiphoThenjwayo
      @SiphoThenjwayo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Name the English managers managing abroad

    • @SiphoThenjwayo
      @SiphoThenjwayo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@ThatFootballCommentator dont mind this weed smoker stop you from producing content

    • @GoonGumpas
      @GoonGumpas หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ Wrong! Just Google English managers abroad and find transfermark. Then you’ll discover how wrong you are. There’s more English managers than French and German outside of their countries LOL. You are factually incorrect and it took about 20 seconds of effort.

    • @GoonGumpas
      @GoonGumpas หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ I don’t need to name them. Just Google ‘managers abroad transfermarkt’ and they are all listed. Then toggle to Germany and France to see there’s fewer LOL