The Problem With England | A Confusing History of Disappointment
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- Another World Cup, another quarter final exit. England really do have a habit of falling short at this stage.
The history of the English national team is one that is as confusing as it is disappointing. The inventors of modern football, yet only winners of the biggest prize once in 92 years.
Today, we recount the story of the Three Lions. The highs and, more frequently, the lows.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:59 - England vs FIFA
05:12 - Disappointment, Depression, Disaster
07:23 - Homecoming
13:11 - “A Team of Drunks and Thieves”
17:10 - Hooligans
22:01 - Tears
25:07 - Different day. Same result
28:08 - Waistcoat
32:29 - Hope?
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Only noticed that there was an echo with the audio too late. So sorry about that, guys :(
Didn't even hear it, great vid !
how could you :(
I'm unsubscribing😡
Hey Tinashe, you've also accidentally put Eusabio down as playing for England at 11:37.
@@Truffle_Pup Just noticed that.
England is just Tottenham on an international level
Netherland share same feeling
@@Monkey.D.Shinchan
Not comparable at all. It's very hard to win tournament and Netherlands may not have major titles except Euro 88 they know at least how to win games.
The problem with England is not that they didn't win any trophy since 1966. The problem with England is that they NEVER beat in the knockout stage of the world cup since 1966 any team called Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Netherlands...
England can't even win a single knockout game against any tough team.
@@gontrandjojo9747 That is an incredibly funny stat. Thanks!
@@gontrandjojo9747 come on, we just defeated Germany in the past Euros why y'all lie so much abt the three lions. How well is ur country doing in the world Stage??
@@ktbecstasy one result is more like suprise than expected.
England need to do that more consistently before they can truly say they have buried the notorious curse.
2 days after this video, Mbappe scores a hat trick in the final...but loses. What a game
Only time to ever score a hat-trick in a final?
Mbappe: hold my beer
Messi Messi Messi
@@randomuser1249 Another Argentina world cup with with a asterisk on it. One is hand of god, another is having your subs on the pitch during play.
@@Adrian-wd4rn have you seen the last save by Arg GK?, half France bench was inside the field celebrating even before the shot...
@@Adrian-wd4rn ?
As an argentinian, let me tell you this from experience: you DON'T want to scapegoat your young talents by blaming them over missed penalties and such. We wasted a lot of potential in the 2010s because of mistreating and blaming the players (particularly due to the 3 consecutive lost finals) and we had to wait until the 2020s for only SOME of them (others have retired) to get a satisfying closure with the World Cup. We're happy now, but we're also left wondering if they could've given us more trophies, had we subjected them to less intense scrutiny in the past.
Thats not true. They were to blame. Choke after choke for a decade. And we had talent but all up front, no defense or world class midfielders.Also Brazil was at its weakest in the 2010s so we had a golden opportunity to win it all in South America and the world cup but could not achieve anything.
way to prove his point lmao
@@87crimson Brazil was weak but Spain and Germany were too strong at the beginning of the 2010s. Spain for example won euro 2008, world cup 2010 and euro 2012, the team was full of Barcelona players at their peak who had just won the champions league a year earlier, Same thing with Germany in 2014, German squad was full of Bayern players who had just won the champions league a year earlier, a team that beats Brazil 7-1 in the semis at their own tuff is not a team to mess with. I can't blame Messi for not winning those two world cups(2010 and 2014), 2018 and 2022 is when Argentina really had a good chance
@@wamnichoI truly believe that if Di Maria had been fit in 2014, Argentina would’ve won. But saying 2018 was a good chance to win it is just nonsense. The team had no cohesion, lacked any real fire. In 2022 Messi has made the most with really good players, none of them were really great or world class but it was definitely the most balanced team he’s had maybe ever.
@@r.i.psteez929 they had a good team in 2018, the only thing they lacked was a good goalie and a good coach, they were knocked by France in high scoring match and some of the goals their keeper conceded we're really stupid goals
Is anyone else already totally aware of England's WC history but still watching because this is such a superbly made documentary?
It is hella well made tbf.
misinformation.
I'm watching because I love seeing England copium and pain
Not me, I only watched because I like the suffering England always faces.
Why you all hate england so much?
I agree. England in recent years have had some embarrassing moments with Iceland 2016 and Costa Rica in 2014, but in the last couple of tournament, it has been more of a heart break than an embarrassment. Take the Semi final with Croatia were they lost in extra time in 2018, Kane missing his penalty vs France in the 2022 World Cup, and of course losing to Italy in the final on penalties at Euro 2020. They always choke at the last hurdle
Tbf, that's somewhat to be expected. When you look at footballing giants like Germany or Brazil, there has always been chokes by those two but appearing consistently In the end stages of the tournament meant success came eventually. England's first final since 1966 was literally the euro 2020 finals, so its clear that the problem has been getting to the last hurdle in the first place. If England start appearing in semi finals and finals regularly, it would prove they're good enough and they would inevitably win something. Germany has won half of the finals they've appeared in, where Brazil have won 5 of the 7 finals they've appeared in.
They should have scored at least one goal from open play against France ...
@@vinczerobert1472 Also,should have played to avoid pens against Italy. 1-0 up at home and blew it.
@@ecaeas4439 Exactly, you can't succeed in international tournaments without experience and know-how, getting to the latter stages in most if not all tournaments will help and eventually everything will fall your way and it'll lead to a tournament win. It can change so quickly, until 2008 Spain was the big underachiever in international football with one solitary Euro win in 1964 and hadn't really come close to repeating that but by 2012 they had won it all and dominated everyone in their path. I feel this England team remind me of Germany at the turn of the century, lacklustre showings at the 1998 world cup and 2000 Euros (finished bottom of their group behind England) lead to a complete revamp in German football (similar to England with St Georges Park) this lead to multiple near missed with a semi-final in the 2006 WC, Finals loss in the 2008 Euros, another WC semi-final in 2010 and a Euros semi-final in 2012, a bunch of near misses but everything came together in 2014 where their young talented squad peaked and won the World Cup.
England is at an impasse, they clearly have great quality and talent in their team now with good cohesion but they are struggling to get over the hump for one reason or another, they need to be more ruthless and efficient, especially when coming up against the elite like France otherwise there will be more tournament heartbreak. Ultimately England has a good chance to end their tournament win wait in the next decade, it seems the current crop of talent will peak around the next World Cup but you often need more than just quality to win these tournaments, whether England makes it to the promised land is another issue.,
As a fan, we have had easy draws in the last 3 tournaments, as soon as we meet someone decent we go all spurs and bottle it.
1986 - hand of God goal + goal of the century
1990 - Gascoigne's near goal miss at the death + penalties
1998 - beckham's send-off + penalties
2002 - ronaldinho's genius free-kick
2006 - rooney's send-off + penalties
2010 - Lampard's wrongly disallowed goal (very blatant)
2014 - Gerrard's back header to Suarez
2018 - missed small box sitter after being 1-0 ahead
2022 - Kane's penalty miss
2026 - ???
Karma for the third goal 1966
England would have been smashed regardless of if lampards goal was given. That English team was terrible
@@sehu1291 how much longer until we pay off the debt of a poor linesman decision? It’s not like we deliberately cheated (unlike Maradonas handball which helped them win that wc and the most recent one so that hasn’t cursed Argentina)
Karma for the robbery in 1966 and for 2026 (if qualifed) i am beting that england will be out in the groupstage, in their last game playing USA!
2026 - accidentally passing the ball to ronaldo in the final, on ET scoreline 1-1, 120th minute ronaldo goal to win it for portugal (this is a wild prediction dont take it to heart, if it does happen then you can call me a time traveller)
There's a saying for the Mexico National Team: "we played like never before, we lost like we always do". I feel that's a very accurate description of the quarter final vs France. A performance to be proud of by England, but in the end it all comes down to being clinical
To put things into perspective the last time Spurs won the league was 1961, and the last time England won the World Cup was 1960. For a country that prides itself with having the best league in the world, they sure have not shown that on the world stage.
@@schrodickerLee1966
As an Englishman it's really refreshing to see a balanced view on the England teams history instead of the usual tropes of, 'England are so arrogant, they think they're going to win' - and living in England, I can honestly say that the pessimists significantly outweigh the optimists.
Good information and brilliantly presented. You've got a like and subscribe from me.
Hum I don't know of I'm in a good place to talk but as a French hearing and seeing thing like "it's coming home" or having your tabloids buying every square of ads to taunt us about your possible victory might be a little hint about that question about arrogance...(I wont even mention the number of times when some english speaker told that our league is trash while you buy all of our player from here if possible 🤷🏻♀️)
Perhaps, just perhaps, your experience with the English and the tabloids ( you really think that represents anyone other than the bottom of society?) does not represent a majority? I live in this country and most people I talked to at the last game were very withheld in their optimism or just put it on as a joke
@@willhowling955 never said that they represented everyone but if they are still around that munch then they must have at least a base of readers.
@@Lostouille I agree "it's coming home" may smack of arrogance but from my experience that is purely a tongue and cheek reference to the song. I realise I don't speak for everyone but among my friends and family noone expects anything yet we still sing the song and say it ironically.
I think when taken at face value it can be seen as arrogant but here it's just a song (from my experience) and the irony is the song is that its saying we are going to fail
"Everyone seems to know the score
They've seen it all before
They just know
They're so sure
That England's gonna throw it away
Gonna blow it away"
While it goes on to be more optimistic I feel this is largely the British view.
The one thing I would say could contradict this is that song goes on to be more optimistic but in a very dream like way, "Never stopped me dreaming". So if it has been picked up in sincere light, I would say the song actually implies it is a dream like state. Positive yes but not arrogant as it saying despite how rubbish we are, we are still dreaming of winning it and the sport "coming home".
Also the idea of it coming home is not an implication that we 'own' the sport, more a nod to the fact it was officially created in the country. That was so long ago though that we don't even recognise it from then.
So with all that said I would say that I see it less as an arrogant declaration of domination or brilliance but instead a hopeful yet pained jokey reference to a song saying that we will fail. We aren't trying to own the game we are just praying that we won't be as rubbish as we have been continuously for decades.
(This is just based on my experience and is not meant to be true for everyone in the country)
@@Lostouille Do French fans not want to win? I'm not English, but I don't understand what you mean. Every team's supporters want them to win.
Supporting England is like supporting Sunderland in an international football sense
At least Sunderland can actually reach a final
@@mrmeeseeks2534Yeah some Sunday league final
@@DayDay1991 I was referring to the playoff final
try being a Rangers, Arsenal and Scotland fan
It’s literally like being a spurs fan. England do actually have some great players but something always seems to go wrong. Sunderland are just a bit shite
Tinashe is one of 5 TH-camrs who can make me watch a video of any length of time and still enjoy the whole of it. I don't know how you do it and I hope you continue doing it as long as you can ✨
Tinashe?
Shit, I thought u were talking about the singer, but yeah I agree😅
After what happened to CAMEROON in 1990. Cameroonians said england will not win a major competition like the world cup again. Because ENGLAND/REFEREE CHEATED CAMEROON THAT MATCH.
Deschamp changed the match against Argentina with tactical switch.
Can you imagine Southgate doing the same?
I know you were mainly focused on the performance of the english team at the world cups, but I feel like you could've mentioned the 1953 friendly match against Hungary dubbed the match of the century, in which the Hungarian team humbled England 6-3 at Wembley. That game was just as impactful in the English people's perception of the national team as the 1-0 defeat against the USA in 1950.
how so?
After what happened to CAMEROON in 1990. Cameroonians said england will not win a major competition like the world cup. Because ENGLAND/REFEREE CHEATED CAMEROON THAT MATCH.
Hungary is an irrelevant country
@@Passportbros8 Rubbish, there was no cheating involved, Cameroon were a bit unlucky, and arguably deserved more, but the penalties were both valid.
@justinchetham-strode5234 There was cheating. Leniker was diving all over the place. And the reffs were buying it. England got two straight penalties from the reff to help them win. It was pure CHEATING.
Because the only thing that never changes at the England setup, the FA itself. Always go for mediocre managers and is happy with not winning tournaments. Pundits also don't help when they praise teams for achieving literally nothing despite the world class talent they have
that is one of the big problems, people in the FA concerned mostly of not losing their job. in doing so they employ yes men. a reason why Brian clough,arguably the best English manager, was never selected.
Your last 5 words also form part of the problem. The amount of "World Class" talent in the team....look at the team that lost to France....how many of them would get into a "World team"? maybe Bellingham (although he'd likely start on the bench) the rest, and yes I include H.Kane are good, top class EPL players, but "World Class"... Would you swap Foden for Griezmann???...does England have a player like him or Modric...a No10 who sits and orchestrates?....Kane has been lauded for a good few years now, yet when the time comes for him to show the World what he has...he vanishes....a flat track bully scoring freely against lower ranked teams and...2 penalties in a game though...oh that's too much to handle...funny how a few days later Mbappe (a few years younger) manages 3.....time to realise England are a good international team...but nothing special
@Paul Franklin I don't think I was clear. By World Class talent I mean young players with the potential to be the best in the world, not that they're currently the best. Foden, Bellingham, Trent etc.
@Paul Franklin and also I don't think 11 world class players are necessary. Look at Argentina. Solid goalkeeper and a decent squad with 1 star player.
@Paul Franklin I agree with your point about Kane he is a ghost in most games with any sort of significance. But experienced and high quality players there who have win trophies with their clubs are there and Southgate does not utilise them in the correct way at all. I just feel that with a manager who's done nothing as a coach and who has consistently shown that he's out of his depth, combined with the fact that the team is captained by a man who's bottled every single chance at silverware he's had, this very deep and very talented squad is doomed to fail
The 1950 USA Team was NOT made up of mostly British expats with only Ed McIlvenny a Scot who played for Morton in the Scottish Junior League and 7 games for Wrexham who were in the 3rd Division North.
Five players were from the Hill Area in St Louis, a predominantly Italian neighbourhood where they played for local teams, thus 4 of the 5 were of Italian Heritage.
Gaetjens as you mentioned was born in Port-au-Prince. Joe Maca was born in Brussels and had played in the Belgian Second Division. Two were of Portuguese, probably Azorean descent from Massachusetts and the last was from Philadelphia of German descent.
The Portuguese were the Souza brothers, Ed and John. John was the team´s best scorer and the first American to be part of the tournament´s Best XI
Neither a brit nor a massive football fan and this is still fascinating. A very well put together sports doc.
I really learn a lot about England's football history with this video. Thank you and cheers from Argentina.
Distrust of creativity is the very reason England didn't make it far in major tournaments. What is wrong by having creative players in the first 11? Every multiple winning national teams have it.
France with Griezmann, Argentina with Messi, Croatia with Modric, just to name a few.
Germany didn't have a creative/creator in their starting XI, maybe that's also why they lose. The 2014 Germany had Ozil and Kroos (also Reus, although unfortunate with injury), then the 2010~2012 Spain that full chock of playmakers in their midfield (Iniesta, Xavi, David Silva, Isco, Fabregas, Pedro, etc)
@@HenSt-gz7qj the biggest irony is Xavi's idol and role model is Matt Le Tissier, the very player whose type is the very thing English football despised.
Southgate bought James Maddison to this world cup but didn't even give him a kick of the ball... having an AM player is definitely not his plan A yet he rarely has a plan B.
@@HenSt-gz7qj what are you talking about, Germany had enough chances and enough creative players with the likes of musiala and kimmich. Some of the best creative midfielders in the world rn.
What they lacked was a striker and a right back.
Don’t make up facts to fit your narrative.
Originally it was down to the style of play, but now I think it’s more because Southgate is so scared of losing.
Russia was a back 5 and 2 holding midfielders. Qatar was slow CBs and no creative CM. Bellingham is a wonderful midfielder but he will be a great box to box player. He won’t be creating all the chances.
I used to live in Montenegro and when they came to play us for the qualification and ended up drawing we all went crazy. I was on the second level and it took two hours to leave and the entire stadium ended up having to be evacuated. To beat a team of such high regard no person who lived in that moment will ever forget it. I met Rooney and he was running out onto the bus and yelled inside for two minutes straight to everyone
I actually think its the otherway with Southgate. I feel he is protected by having so much talent around him. He fluffed the Euro's and he fluffed the WC - both from player management. He says and acts in a way that the media (and the FA) likes
I personally like Southgate he’s done so much for our squad not just getting us further than any other manager since we won the wc but also breaking the tension and bitter rivalries beckhams gen had, they all seems like they are good friends on and off the pitch which has 100% helped us
You can win tournaments with that kind of coach though, so don't lose the hope. Vicente Del Bosque won WC and EuroCup and it's considered a "tool" in the hands of the players. I'm not speaking personally, but many people seem to agree Del Bosque inhereted a team and a playstyle from Luis Aragonés, the previous coach who made the radical changes (like leaving Raúl out of the 2008 Euro) and had real "character", against the media (he was a legend of Atlético, while Del Bosque was from Real Madrid, and the media favours Real Madrid, like A LOT).
Even though he won big titles with Real Madrid, he was busted by Florentino Pérez. And even now, there were some leaked audios of Real Madrid's president from a corrupt cop in prison, and in one of them Florentino said himself Del Bosque wasn't a coach. Not even a good coach, not even a coach, and that's why he was fired from Besitkas.
But even then, the results speak from themselves in both cases.
I hope you lose every single major tournament you're in, to be honest I despise England National Team and celebrate every embarassment they perform. But take it from one of your enemies, sooner or later (and I think sooner rather than later) England will win the World Cup. I mean, once people joke about Spain choking and losing in the quarter finals for decades too. Both teams are very similar. Like England, they were our embarassment time and time again, always coming short. And then we won three titles, in a row, with a team that will be remembered in years to come as one of the best teams in history.
@@oceanfive8201 Those rivalries don;t exist to the extent they did then because there's not many English players in them teams.
Southgate wasn't good enough in the Premier League, there's absolutely no chance England win a trophy as long as he is their manager. I mean look at some of his decisions during the 2022 World Cup;
1) No Ivan Toney in the squad despite being one of the best strikers in the Premier League at the moment. Fair enough if he's on the bench but not even making the squad was ridiculous. No Tammy Abraham was another questionable decision
2) Southgate has way too many favourites. Raheem Sterling had been awful at Chelsea and his form has been on a downhill trajectory for a while now and yet Southgate constantly picks him. Kalvin Phillips barely played at Man City and Pep called him overweight and he still makes the squad
3) Trent sitting on the bench. He's by far England's most creative player and one of the best attacking threats in world football and you shove him on the bench...
Even if you acknowledge his weak defending, you can still work around that. Regardless of form, Trent is a generational talent you should be building your squad around. Play him as a wingback with 3 at the back. Play him as an inverted fullback and play with a box midfield. Play him in midfield. Do something at least
Yes Trent until the very end of the 22/23 season was in poor form, but since Southgate always picks Maguire, it's not like form plays an important role in who makes the squad
It's things like that which is why I have zero faith that Southgate will win a trophy with England
@@fivestarman5130 The Ivan Toney comment has aged like milk
As an English man, this video touches home on many truths we do our best to play ignorance too
Maybe historically that’s true but football TH-cam has already criticised Southgate for not using England’s creative players properly, which this video touches on.
I would struggle to think of a year that we had the best squad compared to others
Yall never had.
@@ALARGADORDECU maybe in the busby babes era
"Goeff Hurst scored a HAT TRICK. In the world cup final. Only time that ever happened, by the way."
Kylian Mbappe: Im bout to end dis man whole carerr.
How Football Iconic only has 200k subs is borderline criminal! The content Tinashe puts out is truly top-notch. Much 💙for everything you’ve done with your channel!
I agree
I don't think you realize how much 200,000 SUBSCRIBERS are, and they will continue to grow with the content that is produced; but I do agree he deserves more:)
Again, proving why you're the best football TH-camr as usual. Fantastic video!
Very good video mate, found it entertaining, truthful and at times amusing.
I am so happy that i found your channel. Your voice, your research and the topics you talk about is great 👍
Great video! Just wanted to add that the hooliganism stereotype doesn't just come from football and it's not a vocal minority thing. Us in southern europe are used to English tourists coming for holidays and mistreating staff, breaking property, not being able to handle their alcohol, and being violent.
The quality of your videos has only grown recently, great analysis and research as always.
England had no expectations at the 2014 world cup under Hodgson. We knew were terrible and it was no surprise we went out in the group stage.
2018 we didn't expect much either, so the semis was a good result for us.
2022 expectations were high because of the world cup semis and euro final, but sadly wasn't meant to be.
Well. Quarter-finals are still decent. Not very good but decent enough to be seen as a more Dangerous opponent. Atleast England was better than countries like: USA, Poland, Australia, Germany, Belgium, Spain or Switzerland.
England just lacks that clutch Mentality. England should treat every match like a final and give it their all. Don't think because you are England, you are on the same level as a Brazil, Germany or Italy.
@@apeacefulfriend2936 German performance was a travesty
@@afrobuddy4801 Germany did pull a massive L this year
@@Ballin4Vengeance Yeah, Ls are always taken, by even the most skilled from time to time, but that is for the most skilled. We are not part of that category.
What an amazing video! Probably took tons of work too, thank you very much!
I just wanted to say I appreciate the amount of research and work in general you put into making this video
27:40 this is how england viewed it yes. meanwhile in spain at elclassico's ramos and pique nearly killed each other several times but for the national team they managed to funtcion as a solid backline somehow XDDDDD
Excellent video! Well researched, well narrated! Cheers from California 😊
That was awesome to watch love the content and the history of the English football side....great video
There’s only two possible results in the World Cup.
1. Win the World Cup
2. Not win the World Cup
Haha True!
Not to rub it in - but Poland qualified over England in 1974 and got 3rd place in that tournament - they didnt lose to bunch of nobodies but actually a really amazing team.
And then failed to qualify in 1978 to Italy
that Polish side was great, they beat Italy, Argentina and Brazil in '74.
Watching this video really shows how well Southgate has actually done considering what had been happening before him
he still hasn't won ANYTHING, has he??? I'm sure England EXPECT to win, not just 'do well' in international competitions.
@@nyantakyibannor9328 England shouldn't expect to win anything
It’s not Southgate. It’s the FAs EPPP(Elite players performance plan) that has meant England are creating better quality and more technical players.
@@hmst2434 when was the EPPP first implemented? I think it might be similar to the German NLZ (Nachwuchsleistungszentrum = Youth Development Centres) which was implemented in 2000. So add 14 years on that and you might get when England can compete for the World Cup
@@mikam1344 It was in 2011 I believe. And yes one of the primary inspirations was the German NLZ as well as the French elite footballing schools such as Clairfontaine and their methods of nurturing young players.
This video is quality. The research behind the history of englands participation in the World Cup and just well made. Great job man!
9:28 thank you for teaching me that Wins in the 60s used to count as 2 points and not 3.
It is interesting to see how many things have changed in the beautiful game over time.
Great work!
Hey man since I found you I’ve been binging all your videos and you being a Man U fan too with all those jokes makes it even better great videos brother ❤
It's mostly the pundits and newspapers who hype the team up every time a tournament comes around. I think most the the normal people say lets see for far we go this time.
Yep but you still get idiots online saying ‘bUt eNgLaNd aRe aRrOgAnT’
@@pratosaurusrex1128 Yeah, and these same people will turn around and say how much a team deserves to win the world cup, or how a team looks unstoppable (I don't disagree sometimes, but outside of shit rags like the Sun, I hardly see English fans say stuff like "Kane looks unstoppable, no one can touch England). I don't really see arrogance in most nations' fans, at least not significantly more than others.
I love your work. So insightful
Excellent analysis 💯
Do your thing bruv
England has the squad but not the spirit to win a major trophy. Bring on a character that can bring that winning spirit not just a nice dude. This team needs a killer instinct, that’s what they lacked against France. Attitude is what makes a team winning, not just a group of good players. 2026 looks promising for you guys. Coming from a Frenchman. Cheers
Agreed. The spirit is lacking especially when tailing.
Sorry but England don't have no way near enough talent to win the world cup. While they have highly talented players, they DON'T have great players, that's the difference. And they never have. I think a big problem with England is we over rate our talent. But if you think about the previous world champions and the players they've produced, they're all FAR better than any English player that's ever played the game. Messi, Mbappe, Iniesta, Xavi, busquets, canavaro, Nesta, pirlo, Ronaldo, ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Romario, Zidane. I could go on but I think it's obvious that players like Saka and Foden are NOWHERE near that level. And that's the calibre of player you need in order to win the World cup.
@@lyrickoner You do not need players of the highest quality level to win a world cup. Examples? Uruguay 1950, Germany 1954, 1974, 2014, Argentina 1978, Italy 1982. These teams were not the most skilled ones in the respective tournament but they made it up with mentality and ruthlessness. The national team of my country, Germany, played eight world cup finals and they were considered favorites in only two of them, 1990 and 2014. In two of the finals Germany won they were the underdog but overcame the better skills of Hungary and Netherlands. If it were just the skills that matter there would be just one world champion ever and that would be Brazil.
@@Harry-tb8yo yeah, that counts for Euro 2021 too. Italy was not a great team. England was better
@@Harry-tb8yoWhat you're saying is the exception to the rule. More often than not it's the team with the best players that win. Although I take you're point about the importance of having a winning spirit.
If I recall, England ensured that teams had to travel by bus further than necessary by changing pitches where the cup games were held for an advantage. Portugal had to travel several hours to the games and that undoubtedly helped England win. Only reason they beat a Eusebio driven Portugal if its to be believed.
Very good point, never seen or heard anyone mention that before.
@@basedelon history remembers the Victor my friend
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Amazing video my guy. Thanks for the great content Tinashe 👑
In recent tournaments, we have mainly left tournaments feeling embarrassed until the last few where it ended in heartbreak
World Cup 2014 - Very little expectations under Roy Hodgson but we knew we were shit. Then ended up being embarrassed despite the low expectations with a group stage exit and an embarrassing loss to Costa Rica.
Euro 2016 - Very little expectations again. We looked very absolutely shambolic under Roy Hodgson. We struggled in the easiest group in the tournament. We managed to get through. Then we hit a new low when we got knocked out by Iceland. Another embarrassment and a new low in English football
World Cup 2018 - We had a new manager and nobody knew what to expect. We got to a semi final which was good. But obviously we bottled it on the final hurdle when we played Croatia and ended up 2-1 in extra time after initially winning 1-0
Euro 2021 - We had high expectations. We were looking good under Southgate and we felt like we had a chance of winning it. We got to the final for the first time in 55 years. Once again we bottled it in the last hurdle vs Italy. We were 1-0 up, got pegged back to 1-1 and then ended up losing on penalties.
World Cup 2022 - We were looking like an outside favourite until we played France. We went 1-0 down, equalised, then went 2-1 down and then we missed a penalty which lost us the game.
Heartbreaking but not surprising. We always seem to bottle it at the last hurdle due to bottle a winning advantage or missing a penalty/losing a penalty shootout. I remain hopeful for the future though. Come on England!
I am Argentinean, and I was supporting England in the play-offs as my second team. It is a team that plays beautiful football. I was hoping for great final Argentina Vs England. Maybe we can witness it next time. Greetings from Buenos Aires
Maybe one day, congrats on winning the final!
May be 100 years later.
You know beating France in a world cup final holds 5 times more value than beating England in a final especially that France was the previous world cup winners
Hopefully one day, was banking on you guys winning the WC and you did it. Congrats mate and I hope you guys have more trophies to come
England/referees cheated cameroon in 1990. So cameroonians said England will not win a major competition like the world cup.
Really interesting! Great analysis plus some saucy stories along the way
That was a great enjoyable video to watch. Well done.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
The disappointing familiar feeling I know too well after seeing us exit a tournament every 2 years.
Euro 96 - Gazza doesn’t get on the end of it and we lose on pens
World Cup 98 - Beckham red card lose on pens
Euro 2000 - We lose a game last minute where we only needed to draw to go through the group
World Cup 2002 - lose to the best team in the tournament to a freak free kick
Euro 2004 - Rooney injured lose a tight game on pens
World Cup 2006 - Rooney sent off lose on pens again
Euro 2008 - did not qualify and stuck a rookie keeper in goal for a game we only needed to draw against a team that already qualified
World Cup 2010 - goal over the line not given but probably we’re going to get stuffed 4-1 anyway
Euro 2012 - scrape into a penalty shootout and maybe this time we might sneak through but no same old story
World Cup 2014 - weakest England squad in my lifetime to go to World Cup and out before matchday 3 in the group.
Euro 2016 - lose to a team with population same size as Coventry. Player for player inexplicable but we would have lost to France anyway had we gotten through.
World Cup 2018 - sneak into the lead but get overrun in midfield by superior technicians
Euro 2020 - take the lead and sit back and it goes to penalties you know what happens next.
World Cup 2022 - Kane skies it and though we did okay we lose to a French team with many key players missing.
To be fair I didn't expect anything in 2018, three of our starting players had less than 10 caps before the tournament started
Don’t think anyone did tbh. It was a weak squad on paper. We scored a lot of set piece goals and the back 3 with wing backs really worked to a point in the tournament
@@francolive5718 yeah it was the second youngest squad in the tournament I think and possibly the least experienced, personally I enjoyed that summer, and we also broke through several historical barriers like our awful record in penalty shootouts and our dismal record in opening games
And if you were older you'd remember the 90 wc semi final loss in shootout to eventual Champs West Germany when Waddle I believe it was, launched the ball over the cross bar and into space making Kane's miss vs France look like a good shot lol. They've been close just can't get over the hump mainly bc they often run into better teams.
Aware of all the failures before I was alive which paints a bleaker picture
Good video - I liked your analysis of 2010 as I agree England were very unlucky and yet all everyone remembers is they got thrashed …most disappointing thing about England this century until recently is how they stopped going out with a fight - eg 2002….at least in the 1980/90s we’d always go out with a gallant defeat (or in 1982, no defeat at all!!)
Hey man, you’re comedic timing is great. Glad to find this channel in my recommended list
Well done mwanawevhu. Well articulated and explained.
As an Uruguayan, I can tell you than here there are amateur neighbourhood teams, usually group in cities, league know as baby-fútbol (baby-football), for kids from 6 to 13 if I'm not mistaken, in mostly public fields ... in my time most didn't have grass more like hard dirt (In Montevideo the capital of 1.5M there are about 80) and the parents of the kids pay a little monthly feed that mostly goes to pay the coach and balls and the parents involve in the club do it for free of course. Scouts from the pro clubs will then select kids from their clubs witch also have. Also kids from low income neighbourhood have open spaces to play like squares (plazas).
Do kinds of low income families in big cities in England have public spaces to play football or something like baby-football???
Yes we do. Loads of local clubs on cities and rural areas, and the parent pay a fee for the recourses and such.
amazing review of England's national team , the last 150+ years
Outstanding Video… Thank you…
It’s amazing that you pointed out the arrogance straight up - well done!
Harry Kane’s second penalty still wouldn’t have won us the game. It would have put us level to take it to extra time.
I consider ourselves a top 4-8 nation, and we've been meeting that the last 4 years.
I feel we're playing at our level.
There can always only be one winner. You'd argue Belgium and France have been stronger over the last 4 year period. Then you have Brazil, Portugal, Netherlands etc
Denmark and Greece can win the Euros in my lifetime, England can’t even with home advantage twice. 😢
England is around 7 or 8th goat of 8 of internstional football . For me theres no reason to doubt about de big 5:
Brazil
Italy
Germany
Argentina
France/Uruguay
What's really revealing is that we haven't beaten a top side in the knockout stages of the World Cup since 1966. For a nation consistently ranked so highly that is shocking.
@@shaggy8856 Uruguay won in the Facist world cups. Uruguay are not a top 10 team.
@@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek Uruguay won in 1930 (thats pre-facist) and Maracanazo in 1950, plus 15 Copa America. Being a 3 million people country, they are a great football nation
Cheers for a fine presentation.
Great video man! I hope you're right and England finally win a major trophy. Good analysis, and thoughts. Thank You.
As a German, I enjoyed every minute of this video
It's funny really, even though I don't remember 1990 or 1996 as I was either not born or only 2 years old in the case of 96, those games against you still live on in English football folklore, probably because for once, it looked like we actually had a chance of winning a tournament, we played well albeit a bit lucky at times and then put in our best performances against you and lost. Germany has that winning mentality, and in England we love the idea and romance of (if that's the right word) "Heroic failure", "If only Waddle had scored and not hit the post", "If only that free kick hadn't deflected and Shilton saved it", "if only Gazza was a foot taller he would have scored the golden goal", "If only beckham didn't get sent off", "If only Seaman was a bit taller" etc. I think as much as we'd love to see our national team win tournaments (Who wouldn't) theirs a kind of guilty pleasure with "heroic failure" and "The plucky loser" who gives it his all against the odds but comes up a bit short against the opponent we love seeing when we reminisce about Italia 90 or Euro 96 which is quite interesting to observe. We are so use to "all those oh so nears, wear you down through the years" as is said in the three lions song, that part of me thinks, if we actually do win something, of course people will celebrate but deep down nobody will know how to react as we are so use to disappointment and embarrassment with our national team, the idea of actually winning is something most people in the country in relation to our national team, has never seen before (sadly). The common thing is "Remember the team of ........ (insert tournament here), that team could have won the tournament with a bit of luck!" through so many different generations, everyone has their England team.
I imagine, it might be hard in a way to explain to a German because you guys know exactly how it is to win tournaments, you have a ruthlessness when you need to (7-1 against Brazil for instance) unlike us and the idea of going even 10 years or longer without winning a tournament is seen as somewhat like a national team crime lol. So the idea you'd have to wait 60 years is unthinkable whereas for us, it's the old expression, "it's the hope that kills you". We go through periods like Brazil in 2014 or Iceland in 2016 and it looks like all hope is lost, that we should just retire as a national team, we're not good enough and then from almost by accident and out of nowhere, we have a team that gives us hope again, that maybe, maybe we can win something until inevitably.... we don't :(. I hope this is changing now but who knows, either way, I'll keep supporting them like I have done most of my life.
One World Cup Two World Wars 😂
Resistance is useless!
I bet you enjoyed your group stage exit from the last two world cups aswell 😂
@@j_james_01 haha no, but I enjoy thinking about 7 titles from 14 finals in WC and Euros. You can say what you want, England is super shit at international football 😉
Have to say that while it definitely used to be true that England fans (mostly as caricatured by the media) used to believe England should win the world cup, I don't think it's true now. Paradoxically as we've become more consistent in the last 5 years, the expectation of winning has become less. As ever in England, this is less to do with what real fans ( who are generally quite knowledgeable about the game and our limitations) and ALOT to do with our insane and stupid media who see an opportunity to make money out of our participation in international tournaments.
Great video mate! Keep it up
Absolutely brilliant and informative video.
the subs lost england the game against france, rashford was brought on way too late and mount was a travesty the second he stepped on
Mount literally won the second penalty and Foden had done absolutely nothing before coming off. Stop talking out of your arse.
Mount has been missing the whole tournament
Mount won the penalty to be fair. Kane missed it.
@@JurgenKranz he also blew a shot from pointless range when he had the whole right side to himself and could progress into the box, and repeatedly lost possession . the 1 pen he created doesnt make up for it
@@LeafGreen906 yep that was a terrible shot
Gonna be honest, as an Argentinian it bafles me how y'all have such much quality talent but never can amount to nothing sadly. Idk what it is. Maybe is tha little bit extra that others countries have like Germany, Brazil or Argentina itself. Hopefully you can solve it in the future, because football its great when big countries are good. Cheers from a world champion.
It’s because they don’t have creative midfielders and a good manager. England has a very good team but they don’t have the worlds best players. Argentina has messi, France has mbappe, Spain has xavi and iniesta. Brazil has neymar and had players like Ronaldinho and Ronaldo in the past. There’s only 1 position where i think England has the worlds best player and that’s at right back.
What a good point, true.
@@uzaidgurjee4798 What about Harry Kane at ST and for creative midfielders James Maddison
England is this really messy case to watch, especially to me as a German, because they always just tend to have this air of... arrogance to them. I don't necessarily mean the players or the teams, I barely pay attention to them, but more like the press and pundits, who keep hyping up England before any tournament, act like they are better than the rest of the world (while mostly confusing that it's the Premier League that's actually drawing attention, and even then not necessarily on its own merits given the external cashflow going into the Premier League itself), the constant "It's coming home!" every single time... it just gets annoying over time.
And that's even before getting into the Germany specific context. To this day they still can't stop with the World War 2 references when it comes to matches with Germany, a tradition that got old long, long ago and is just tasteless. Or how they hype themselves up to be this really big rival of ours when we don't even want anything to do with them (for us, that's the Netherlands, and to a lesser degree Italy). And they. Just. Won't. Shut. Up. About. It.
Seriously.
I'll admit, under that context, watching England fail and come short so often is a little bit of a guilty pleasure of mine, even after what happened at Euro '21. But honestly? I just wish the media would be quieter. Stop piling as much pressure on the team. Usually the title comes when you least expect it, and just the reputation of 'the birth country of football' alone ain't pulling much anymore on the international stage, where even the former smaller countries are actually getting stronger. Things like Croatia reaching the last four for the second time in a row, or Morocco of all countries reaching the semis more than proves that. Let the team breathe. But of course, the press won't let them. And I feel like even at upcoming tournaments, that's going to be a big reason as to why England will keep bottling it.
Right so here's the problem. No one is forcing you to watch our media or listen to our pundits. You have your own sports media in Germany which are you are perfectly capable of sticking to and ignoring ours. But for some reason you insist on paying attention to ours. My first response to your criticisms is just to think "if you don't like it then why are you even paying attention?" No one in England cares what the German media were saying about their team's chances or are interpreting that as some kind of personal insult. It's absolutely bizarre that you and the rest o the world pays so much attention to what our media says if you hate it so much. I could understand this when it comes to the coverage of the Premier League but not in international tournaments.
I also don't even think we are that arrogant either. You can certainly say that we are hopeful or optimistic, perhaps even to an unrealistic degree. But how exactly this qualifies as arrogance I don't know. I actually think our media has been fairly even about our chances this tournament. No one has said we have the best squad in the world. We think we have a talented squad that is good enough to win it, which is really all that matters, and we were obviously hoping that we would this time. Also, we haven't won anything in 50 years, despite coming very close at times so of course we are "impatient" to win something for want of a better word. But they haven't really been that pressurising or hyping either in my opinion, it's just that for some reason everyone interprets anything positive or optimistic about our chances as that. If we had beaten France we probably would have made it to the final, and it was a pretty even game too.
Finally you say you enjoy watching us fail? Don't worry, I can assure you it's mutual. I had a good laugh seeing Germany go out in the groups twice in a row.
@t0mkat Does he (or she) know the song "coming home" is satire, and didn't the Germans adopt it after they won Euro 96? 🤔 and they played that song during the 2006 World Cup? Else, he comes off as arrogant 🙄
ONE World Cup TWO WORLD WARS
Everyone hypes their country up and has an aspect of arrogance, I met some people from Morocco saying their team was the best on the planet and they’d thrash France 5-0, its a part of the game and it’s about people wanting to see their country do well, I don’t know why England is always singled out over something every other team does to a certain degree.
@GogledholDin Exactly not to mention that some of the Moroccan fans' behaviour outside Qatar was disgraceful when they rioted in several Dutch, Belgian and French cities after their matches and hell a 14-year old boy got killed in Montpellier compare that to the euro final at Wembley, obviously not all Moroccan fans they acknowledged it but what they did was much worse.
This was a great video! I’m not a fan of the England team but even I can admit they deserved more in that quarterfinal considering the way they played in the second half.
But the thing that gets me is the attitude of the English press. It’s perfectly alright to support their team, but they somehow manage to underestimate smaller teams AND the traditional football power houses on the regular. That brand of arrogance is on another level.
Trust me, as an English person we hate them too,
I know it’s hard because they are so prevalent but just try to ignore them, most people under the age of 55 do
Britain has the worst media in Europe.
I’m English and we truly hate our media.
So the Media is to blame, When they lose?
The fans were the people that clowned about coming home no ?
What you need are people that are ready to take the blame and the responsbility.
Good to hear someone make this point. Our media are utter trash and are the worst possible advertisement for what English fans really think. Think.kost English fans are much more realistic about our level, but our media hype us into something we just aren't and have never been. It's shit
I've been watching football for what feels like an eternity, and yes, my first World Cup was 66' albeit, I don't remember much except the final. Every single time it never felt like that team that was playing the absolute best, was going to, without a doubt, win it. It doesn't take a team that is playing incredibly superior to the rest, to win it, but rather it's a group of teams that are playing at a good, even decent level, and one of them has all the planets align for them in that moment. England, much like say, Netherlands, have always played good football and they've always hovered among the top, but luck hasn't smiled upon them much. Keep that level, one day it'll come. I don't think football will cease to exist, it's not like a race to see who wins more, but a question of patience. Argentina showed us just that, that you don't have to have a star-studded lineup or a golden generation of players, to be able to aspire to winning the Cup, just the hunger and will to obtain it and yes, some high level footy
Incredible work here. Insane research 🔥👍. Well done.
You’re just saying that cos he’s black. His research is Wikipedia.
I think it's a national psyche when it comes to football. They used to have the same thing in France some time ago. Great players but constantly falling at the last hurdle. Player for player our squad is definitely up there. We perhaps lack that one 'x factor player' though, just look at France and Argentina.
Argentina and France have the 2 best players in the entire world though.. That talent is much more than an x factor. The odds of getting a player that is top 2 in the world coming from ANY nation, nevermind England would be so rare; coming close to impossible...
Come on dude, don't be so hard on yourselves. Here in Argentina we also criticized a lot our players (we even called Messi "pecho frío", because of him underperforming in the national team) and our DT, our team played questionably from 2010 to 2018. Nowadays we are happy with our team because finally our boys played at 100% and they listened to the people, we wanted new fresh players and a good and not corrupt DT. Sorry for my English btw.
This video is more appropriate for the Netherlands perhaps than any other country when considering the quality of the teams they historically bring to these continental and global tournaments.
The Netherlands has unfortunately produced some of the best players ever far apart from one another. They had some unlucky breaks but it's been more spectacular individual players as opposed to teams absolutely stacked with talent across the pitch. Or maybe I'm just thinking of players like Cruyf, Van Persie, Robben Van der saar as the giants and overlooking the rest of their players. There is no doubt though that the Netherlands has produced some of the best players ever.
@@ecaeas4439 their squads in the 70's' late 80's and late 90's were stacked with world class players. Shouldve won a world cup with at least one of those generations.
@@ecaeas4439 I really am thinking of teams. Of course supported by generational or "simply" great and excellent players.
@@ramonfrancois9306 You're right. I think it has to be said that talent is not always enough. Luck plays some part and the circumstances in each world cup are always different every year. It's like with England and everyone assuming England failed primarily for the exact same reasons throughout time, like lack of performance due to arrogance or overrated / not good enough players. Getting to the final consistently is a trait of winning teams. England have not been consistent features in finals and semi finals, like Brazil (7 time finalists, 4 times semi finalists, 6 times Quarter finalists) or Germany (8 time finalists, 5 time semi finalists, 3 time quarter finalists). England have failed to convert quarter final appearances into semi or final appearances because they have traditionally failed against big teams. The Netherlands probably should have won something and have probably underperformed, but they haven't made it consistently to finals or semis and have been absent from a lot of world cups.
@@ecaeas4439 💯.
Great video mate. Very informative. Nice background music that doesn’t detracted from what you are saying.
Thanks for tempering this fraught subject and so many thorny issues with the facts to provide a witty and wonderfully insightful, sympathetic, yet clear-eyed account of England's troubled footballing history and many uncomfortable truths. Thank you.
This England team has one glaring fault that is similar to Tottenham's. The leading goalscrorer rarely gets himself into a goalscoring position. Our widemen consistently get into excellent crossing positions but have to cross to each other or come inside to take a shot themselves. Harry is usually nowhere to be seen. He is usually playing so deep that he cannot get into the box quickly enough to finish good moves.
"Hurst scored a hat-trick in the world cup final, the only time that's ever happened"
You should have been more careful aha, great video though !
Haha yeah I was looking for a comment mentioning this
Still it was for nothing
Amazing video, love all the detailed side stories!
Only time a hat trick has ever been scored in a WC final. Can’t believe you posted this two days before am apple did it again
Great video! Thanks for you work.
Are you thinking about doing an analysis of Argentina vs France before the match? I would like to hear your opinion.
I think the days of the English expecting their national team to win a cup are long gone. I never hear anyone saying they expect england to win it, in fact it is the exact opposite as all you hear is the expectation of England under performing.
Not really lol. Disappointment again but was it that bad ??? France will probably go on to win the tournament and we outplayed them
We have one of the best quality sides in the world, an experienced manager. It’s not hopeless like people make out
And explain to me how this WC was an underperformance lol?
@@axkerman outplayed a team without open play goal sound very false narrative
@@TurboGauchiste not really, the narrative that open play goals = played better is a more oversimplified narrative
After the shakey first minutes and after tchoucha scored England controlled the game and frequently had high quality passages of play. Some leading to extraordinary saves from Lloris and 2 of which leading to deserved penalties. Let’s not even get into that the first goal shouldn’t have stood, but none of the officials seen so …
@@axkerman We did not outplay France, not even close. They simply handled the ball and used space better, while England was on the back foot.
@@axkerman England are shit.. They lost...
love your videos man!
Another brilliant video, thanks
I think that England in international tournaments gets about as far as they should with the teams they have. If you take away Spains wc win 2010, only 5 different countries have won a wc since 1970. Brazil, Argentina, Italy, Germany and France. That's it. And all those countries imo have just had more talented teams more often than England.
55 years says it all. That is diabolical
I didn't expect England to win in 2018, The last Euros and World Cup however, we could've had a better manager to get more out the squad.
@@safcjoe7062 sorry mate, I’ve heard it all before. We have always been too overrated and lack that world class ruthlessness.
@@djart4866 I disagree to an extent. Rice, Bellingham, Foden, Saka and Kane. Stones and Tomori even tho they don't play together, any team in Europe would rub their hands together for them. Mainoo is an up and coming player who looks wise beyond his years. Gomez isn't world class but he 100% should be in the squad over Maguire.
@@safcjoe7062 these players are nothing special, they are the usual standard of tournament football but remember, there’s other teams with far better quality.
Good video m8. Spot on!
great video, bravo!
A very well produced and informative video, though as an England fan it brought back some painful memories.😆We are serial chokers when it comes to missing penalties in pressure situations, with Harry Kane just the latest in a very long list.
if you are going to bring up the moderate success in CL in the 2000s, I think it's only fair to bring up the much larger success in the 70s and 80s until Heysel. England dominated with mostly English players while the 2000s were much more diverse squads. The early 2000s success was nothing close to going to the achievement of 8 finals in 9 years and winning 7. The international failure then was far more disappointing than the not so golden generation.
Great point. I think I was obviously biased towards the era that I watched personally
Liverpool's teams in that era were predominantly Scottish, Welsh and Irish players.
@@myroseaccount Not true. Liverpool’s starting XI in the 1977 European Cup Final had nine English players and the starting XIs in the 1978 and 1981 European Cup Finals had eight English players.
@@nt300ukyes you're quite right. I was clearly thinking about 83 through 86 and beyond. The last 2 finals they appeared including Heysel was predominantly foreign players. Have to say why England didn't just play that Liverpool team from 76 to 78 is a question
@@nt300uk but it is undeniable that the most influential players in Liverpool team were not English viz Dalglish Hansen Souness Rush.
really cool balanced and enjoyable video !
Thanks for sharing Sir 😊
Congratulations on yet another great video!
The criticisms of Southgate that hold weight are around his tactical choices in big games. Unfortunately for Gareth, he's learning on the job. Unlike some of his contemporaries, he's never had a big job before and never had to make these kinds of big decisions before.
Unfortunately, now there is an attitude that has started to emerge of the team doing well in spite of him, which I think is insulting. Part of being a manager is having a team that wants to play for you, and this team clearly does.
England will have greater successes, which probably won't be under Southgate, but time will be kinder to him in the long run.
The team is doing well in spite of him. If he were Wales manager, would he even have qualified?
@@kevincarter2020 In what way?
As this video has shown, I can understand the dislike of England by other nations back up to the 60s. The FA were hugely arrogant about their position compared to other nations.
But I also feel that today fans of other nations see English media and The FA and use that to tarnish all England fans as arrogant. We’re not. We just back our team. How is that different from a Spaniard backing Spain, or a Dutch person backing The Netherlands?
We also have hypocrites telling us we only get easy groups in tournaments but then we get called arrogant when we expect to beat a Sweden or Senegal… which is it?
NGL, the whole "It's coming home!" bit done unironically by a lot of English fans is annoying.
@@PONR2006 but… it isn’t unironic though
@@fweb3134 I’ve seen the comment being made seriously, not always in jest.
@@PONR2006 why, it’s our chant, literally every international team have their own chants. Why do u choose to be annoyed my England’s
@@PONR2006 of course SOME will be serious. But most are not
Great Video Bro!
U guys are getting better, you made the semifinals of Euro, just keep trying. 💪
Mbappe's second ever world cup final hat trick. Wild!
The english media has an odd "loser mentality" of low expectations. Getting to a quarter or semi is "good enough" and it has been like that for a long time. Another big factor is Southgate. The man has experience managing Middlesbourg and thats it. Compare him to a manager like Deschamps or Luis Enrique and he just doesnt cut it. The English FA needs to bring in someone with the experience and grit if they want to win.
Luis Enrique does not compare to Deschamps
But with that is, English fa/pundits only want England manager which I'm not sure any English manager has a champions league trophy other Sir Alex but he's Scottish.
If England really wanna want to win, they gonna bring in championship caliber manager and not managers like southgate
We already did that with eriksson and capello (who both managed our golden generation that were a better squad than the current team) and we didn’t do any better with highly rated foreign managers than with English ones.
Tbf, the english FA has to be concerned about Public relations as much as the next biggest teams in the world. At times, the relationship between the FA, the media, the management and the public has been terrible, and that is bad for the morale of all concerned. The FA have managed to address this issue somewhat with Southgate, so even though he is not a good enough manager I understand why they're concerned with keeping the fix in place, and not going back to the past where the media produced hit jobs on the players and managers and the fans fell out with the players as soon as they went out of a tournament.
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 Capello and Eriksson were dealing with different circumstances to today. Most of the squad played for big rivals in the Premier league and were not willing to drop their club mentality when playing for the country. No manager could break that divide down. It had to disappear on it's own with a new generation of players.