7 Worst EVER Premier League Managers

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  • From former Newcastle United manager John Carver to current Chelsea boss Frank Lampard, HITC Sevens takes a look at some of the worst managers in the history of the Premier League.
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  • @colek2470
    @colek2470 ปีที่แล้ว +1745

    Thogden is like watching someone who has spent 10 minutes reading the cliffs notes of a subject and suddenly thinks they are a expert in that subject

    • @duckseatbread104
      @duckseatbread104 ปีที่แล้ว +199

      You can tell his dad used to be in the Conservative party

    • @whywouldyoucare
      @whywouldyoucare ปีที่แล้ว +9

      thats not true...he has actually a really big knowledge pool. Its just football is HUGE. and he doesnt just focus on the Premier league like you most likely do. He really likes the Bundesliga per example and really knows a lot about it cause if you like him GO to matches then the Bundesliga is just incomparable to any other league so he fell in love with it at dormtund. Knows lots about La liga too...and EVEN SMALLER leagues like Eredivisie etc.

    • @Bresagk
      @Bresagk ปีที่แล้ว +210

      @@whywouldyoucare Thogdens content is made for casual people to enjoy, which is fine, but to think he has some kind of vast knowledge of football is pretty silly.

    • @AdamOBrien29
      @AdamOBrien29 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      ​@@whywouldyoucare the irony of your comment versus your username lol

    • @Tazza81
      @Tazza81 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @@whywouldyoucare well my knowledge of Football is pretty good but nowhere near extensive and I would bet my bollocks that I know a lot more about the sport than Thogden does.

  • @magivkmeister6166
    @magivkmeister6166 ปีที่แล้ว +1014

    Frank Lampard is the embodiment of "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

    • @FuncleB
      @FuncleB ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Hahaha spot on that

    • @parker-ii7fg
      @parker-ii7fg ปีที่แล้ว +23

      I think he did well at Derby in his first season, but he should have remained there for at least another season, or cut his trade at another championship club, gaining that crucial experience before making the move to an EPL club.
      While he was a great player (arguably the central figure in that iconic Chelsea team of the mid to late 2000s) one year in senior management was too soon to make such a big move, and unfortunately it seems as if his managerial career has been on a gradual downward trajectory ever since.

    • @stschnorr4306
      @stschnorr4306 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Remember that time he played for city? What an absurd timeline it was

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ironically he made into the thumbnail but not the list proper.

    • @anibalrodriguez2626
      @anibalrodriguez2626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​​@@soundscape26 Alfie tends to clickbait from time to time, though I'm not really sure if I can call it clickbait. The fact that sometimes the characters used for the thumbnail are not on the video doesn't mean that the content of the video isn't the one promised in the title

  • @MadVybez
    @MadVybez ปีที่แล้ว +913

    What an absolute tool how does Raneri even come to mind as one of the worst premier league managers ever😂

    • @PH-jv4ik
      @PH-jv4ik ปีที่แล้ว +58

      They haven't watched football or don't understand how google works

    • @AntoniusTyas
      @AntoniusTyas ปีที่แล้ว +81

      *what an absolute Thogden

    • @whywouldyoucare
      @whywouldyoucare ปีที่แล้ว +10

      you know what engagement bait is though right?? and that YT shorts have a maximum of like 10 seconds play time...?^.-

    • @michaek7438
      @michaek7438 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Simples, recent bias. He looked at Claudio at Watford and decided it was indicative. How the likes of Thogden and Rory Jennings gets a following is beyond me

    • @jamesoconnell1243
      @jamesoconnell1243 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaek7438 truth mate it’s based off how bad some of their tales are. Can’t guess any other reason

  • @Luggoloco
    @Luggoloco ปีที่แล้ว +550

    Lampard managed to get 2 clubs into relegation battle in the same season

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Everton were in a relegation battle last season under Benitez and had the worst form in the Premier League when he got sacked. Lampard came in and kept them up. This season he was sacked when they were 19th and Sean Dyche who's a survival specialist came in. They're still 19th. Maybe he wasn't the problem and it's the players and more importantly Farhad Moshiri and the board who've run that club into the ground.

    • @sparkie4604
      @sparkie4604 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      @@areebsiddiqui758 it doesn't help that he's an absolutely shite manager

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@sparkie4604 Not really the point. He wasn't the one that got Everton into a relegation battle. Guardiola would struggle to keep them up this season.

    • @grippingrope9937
      @grippingrope9937 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ​@@areebsiddiqui758Everton never entered the relegation zone last season until Lampard came in. In fact they were 16th when he came in and finished 16th too

    • @bababababababa6124
      @bababababababa6124 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@grippingrope9937 to be fair I don’t even think that Jesus himself could’ve managed that club well 😂Everton is finished, they’ve been destined for relegation for years now

  • @dpereira35
    @dpereira35 ปีที่แล้ว +575

    With the Thogden banter here, we need a Worst Seven Football TH-camrs :)

    • @kellijones6481
      @kellijones6481 ปีที่แล้ว +111

      1. Thogden
      2. Thogden
      3. Thogden
      4. Thogden
      5. Thogden
      6. Thogden
      7. Maybe True Geordie but more than likely Thogden

    • @FFCFulham94
      @FFCFulham94 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some of the twats on football daily need to go on that list

    • @ibarboo
      @ibarboo ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Leave it to Irish guy perhaps! But I believe Alfie would have more witty remarks and banter than him! 😂

    • @ricardslatvia
      @ricardslatvia ปีที่แล้ว +40

      @@kellijones6481Rory Jennings deserves a shout in fairness

    • @jackbolland
      @jackbolland ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ricardslatvia there are many that are way worse than him tbh

  • @andrewwinslow9315
    @andrewwinslow9315 ปีที่แล้ว +565

    Alfie with World Class Banter for Thogden.
    In reality, you are a great football historian/amateur analyst. You've taught me a lot about the game that us American's don't get

    • @fernandovazquez9709
      @fernandovazquez9709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn’t have said it better myself !

    • @tombo416
      @tombo416 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I just hope this video does better than Thogden’s, that’s the ultimate middle finger to that clown

    • @ubani-doddsjoshua
      @ubani-doddsjoshua ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ​@@tombo416 why so bitter

    • @tombo416
      @tombo416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ubani-doddsjoshua erm, because he’s a terrible TH-camr? 😂pretty simple, don’t tell me you unironically watch that buffoon

    • @mnm5165
      @mnm5165 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@ubani-doddsjoshua do you actually support Thogden? 😂😂

  • @lwandomadikizela2213
    @lwandomadikizela2213 ปีที่แล้ว +423

    Ranieri deserves respect. Sure he's no Ferguson, Mourinho, Wenger and Guardiola but he won the Premier League title with a bunch of championship/relegation fodder players. A feat that will likely never be repeated again in the Premier League.

    • @thehumblepotatoreborn9313
      @thehumblepotatoreborn9313 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ranieri got lucky - he had prime Vardy, Kanté and Mahrez. Keep in mind Leicester were like 16th the next season when he got sacked

    • @spacenodus7959
      @spacenodus7959 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      ​@@thehumblepotatoreborn9313 then some seasons after they won the fa cup

    • @spacenodus7959
      @spacenodus7959 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      ​@@thehumblepotatoreborn9313 also being lucky for 9 months is a lot of time for being lucky and apparently no one think about Smeichel lol

    • @thehumblepotatoreborn9313
      @thehumblepotatoreborn9313 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@spacenodus7959 First 6 months no-one even took 'em seriously, plus they had no european games to distract or tire them. Not saying Ranieri wasn't part of their success but he definitely had luck on his side. And, yeah, Schmeichel too

    • @Scream250
      @Scream250 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ​@@thehumblepotatoreborn9313 Hallmark of a good manager is being able to select players that fit his philosophy.

  • @kid_doonski
    @kid_doonski ปีที่แล้ว +241

    Alfie's name segues **UPDATED**
    Without Freddy Adu (without further ado)
    Eddie Howe (anyhow)
    Wright ('right)
    Hoever (However)
    Watmore (What's more)
    Ndidi (indeed)
    Luke Shaw (sure enough)
    Will Still (still...)

    • @Ese96Agoaye
      @Ese96Agoaye ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Here's a new one: Terry (terribly),

    • @jez2466
      @jez2466 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Come on Alfie, Derby had two managers in 2007-08 who won one game between them. Billy Davies and Paul Jewell were both terrible at Derby. Surely they should be in the list?

    • @Victor_Trumper
      @Victor_Trumper ปีที่แล้ว

      Ben Mee (Me)

    • @reintaler6355
      @reintaler6355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rijkaard (regard) will hopefully be added soon

  • @brandonwallis2788
    @brandonwallis2788 ปีที่แล้ว +143

    Alfie on Siewert: “2 losses and 1 defeat”😂😂

    • @etoroabasiakpan7050
      @etoroabasiakpan7050 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Had to replay to be sure I wasn't hearing things 😂

    • @paulguise698
      @paulguise698 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hiya Brandon, I spotted that aswel, Alfie had a Castore

    • @ricm3999
      @ricm3999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@etoroabasiakpan7050 same 😂😂

    • @damianspence
      @damianspence ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Immediately searched the comments 😂

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought that did sound terrible. I guess the one defeat was worse than a loss?

  • @mukundaneupane1311
    @mukundaneupane1311 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Don't rule out Nathan Jones just yet. His contribution this season will be massive. He stopped Man City from winning a quadruple. A legend!

    • @berbafan67
      @berbafan67 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      The fact that this is the only game he didn't lose at Southampton is quite hilarious

    • @Dan-sq4xk
      @Dan-sq4xk ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@berbafan67 well actually he won 4 games but still hilarious to think that he beat city

    • @EliasRoy
      @EliasRoy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And still won treble 🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
    @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Like how Alfie and the Irish Guy(Michael) both have had a go at Thogden.

    • @duckseatbread104
      @duckseatbread104 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robbie from AFTV recently too because Thogden made lies about him after he declined to appear om his channel. Thogden seems like an entitled shite tbh.

    • @connorgrimshaw5457
      @connorgrimshaw5457 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Vizeh has recently aswell lol

    • @tino6440
      @tino6440 ปีที่แล้ว

      Irish guy is just as insufferable

  • @calebprice218
    @calebprice218 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    "De Boer was replaced by Roy Hodgson, who was at that time only 103 years old" genuinely made me chuckle, great video!

  • @bryoon5369
    @bryoon5369 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    You ripping into thogden is the best few mins I’ve seen in a while it was brilliant

  • @mosesb2054
    @mosesb2054 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Yeah thogdon is insufferable tbf

    • @gooddypm
      @gooddypm ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t watch home then.

    • @tombo416
      @tombo416 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@gooddypm yeah we definitely won’t don’t worry 😂😂you shouldn’t be either unless you’re under the age of 12 😂

    • @gooddypm
      @gooddypm ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tombo416 I watch selected ones, the Wanderers match day vlogs.

    • @jakecollin5499
      @jakecollin5499 ปีที่แล้ว

      But we all know who he is and he gets his views and makes money…don’t be a hater

    • @mosesb2054
      @mosesb2054 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@jakecollin5499 no i'll gladly be a hater, cheers.

  • @FannyShmellar
    @FannyShmellar ปีที่แล้ว +96

    How on Earth is Steve Kean not on this list? When he got the Blackburn job they had competed in 17 of the 19 Premier League seasons, qualified for Europe on multiple occasions and were sat 10th when he took over. He ended up nearly getting them relegated by the end of that season, then actually did get them relegated the following season - never to return. The best job he got after his Premier League disaster after that was for a team in Borneo. He is on that list. 100%

    • @Roundholesinsquarepegs
      @Roundholesinsquarepegs ปีที่แล้ว +12

      You should watch Bradley Orr explain it on ‘under the Cosh’ podcast. Venky’s didn’t help.

    • @FannyShmellar
      @FannyShmellar ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Roundholesinsquarepegs He was part of the downfall. Experienced players like Ryan Nelsen were forced out and replaced with League 1 standard players like Bradley Orr. Relegation was merely a formality in the end

    • @Lythgoemania
      @Lythgoemania ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right. I expected him to be number 1

    • @guguy00
      @guguy00 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      At least he won a trophy eventually, so happy ending for him.
      ...
      It was the Singaporean League, a league no one here in SG anyone cares about.

  • @chriswoodtoarsenal
    @chriswoodtoarsenal ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Love the thogden part. Hate that prat

    • @bp3366
      @bp3366 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      His father being the epitome of a manchild doesn't help either 😂

    • @liamh1982
      @liamh1982 ปีที่แล้ว

      Has that tossbag switched back to Bolton now it looks like they have a chance of promotion and Spurs are... well, Spurs?

    • @chriswoodtoarsenal
      @chriswoodtoarsenal ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@bp3366 his abuse of Liam was disgusting, and the fact that they’ve mostly brushed it under the carpet was even worse!

    • @jhaych
      @jhaych ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@chriswoodtoarsenal who is Liam and what happened? I'm intrigued now!

    • @scottishjedi1522
      @scottishjedi1522 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chriswoodtoarsenal I’ve not heard of this, care to explain?

  • @peteredeoghon6457
    @peteredeoghon6457 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    After some little digs, I was wondering when you would actually do this on Thodgen. Not disappointed lmao

  • @FOOTBALLisKNOWLEDGE
    @FOOTBALLisKNOWLEDGE ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I avoid togdan at all cost..... was devastated yo see him turn up on here

    • @tombo416
      @tombo416 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I set my TH-cam home page to show less videos of him, idk why he came up so often

  • @leobestbote4244
    @leobestbote4244 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    3 games
    2 losses and one defeat
    Im dead😂😂

  • @oliverapex7924
    @oliverapex7924 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I’m 2 minutes into the video & I can hear the pure contempt u have 4 Thogden, every time u utter his name😀

  • @baumanmarketinggaming
    @baumanmarketinggaming ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Claudio Ranieri's story is quite remarkable. He did in fact have a disastrous spell with the national team of Greece in the qualifications for Euro 2016 where they ended rock bottom of the group, below Faroe Islands to whom they lost both games. After being sacked by Greece, he took over Leicester City & made history there!

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, for me it's either Park Ji Sung, Arturo Vidal, Mario Mandzukic, and Franck Kessie.

  • @ziudra91
    @ziudra91 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    Gerrard had a 32 % win record with us.
    Absolutely woeful manager.

    • @goodday512
      @goodday512 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree, Gerrard was awful, but I'm surprised Remi Garde wasn't on this list.

    • @kierand94
      @kierand94 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      We were already dead and buried when Garde took over, it was basically an admission that the board had given up

    • @chrislosd162
      @chrislosd162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@goodday512 remi had a terrible football team and we were basically relelgated wjen he came anyway

    • @goodday512
      @goodday512 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrislosd162 fair point…he did have a lot of issues to deal with.

  • @s_ren_
    @s_ren_ ปีที่แล้ว +21

    A roast of Thogden that only you could do, thanks Alfie.

  • @willwraxall4574
    @willwraxall4574 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Yeah, appointing de Boer and then buying no players for him wasn't our finest hour. Allegedly, the speed of the sacking had more to do with his attitude behind the scenes than results though. Among other things, he supposedly sent a very popular senior squad member to train with the youth teams after telling them that was their technical level. Didn't go down too well...

    • @stevencooke6451
      @stevencooke6451 ปีที่แล้ว

      Four games is not much of a sample. Though DeBoer has been terrible in other places too.

    • @rorrt
      @rorrt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I support Palace.. Not our finest hour.. There should have been red flags when he said "I plan on playing a 3-4-3" a great traditional Dutch formation..
      You need legs to play that formation.
      There was a TIFO football about De Boer and Van Gaal. Basically, both managers came unstuck trying to do the same thing. But Van Gaal had much much much more expensive players at Man Utd... Not Jordan Mutch running around in circles..

  • @Stryth
    @Stryth ปีที่แล้ว +22

    How did Steven Kean at Blackburn not make this list? He single handedly turned a comfortable Blackburn Rovers team under Allardyce into relegation fodder in a season and a half and never lost his job even though the trajectory was down

    • @johnwilliam6092
      @johnwilliam6092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because Blackburn are just a distant memory at this point I'm afraid. Saying this as a Rovers fan.

  • @nathanb286
    @nathanb286 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    If Nathan Jones isn’t on this list, I will be flabbergasted

    • @yasin_GD
      @yasin_GD ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The funny thing is that Luton are still doing well without him

    • @maciejbala477
      @maciejbala477 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@yasin_GD just like Brighton are doing well without Potter. I guess some managers just get inflated reputation by being at a well-run club

  • @NommerDonzwaaa
    @NommerDonzwaaa ปีที่แล้ว +24

    4:59 - 5:03
    Two loses and one defeat 👀👀👀👀👀? How does that work?

  • @james2529
    @james2529 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    As a Southampton fan I am 'glad' to see Jones on this list. Absolutely dreadful appointment that no one wanted and had us playing some of the worst football we've ever seen. Selles hasn't been any better but he had an almost impossible job to do.

    • @thejoshway764
      @thejoshway764 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You guys were calling for his head after 2 games - I’d consider that a much more impossible task than the one Ruben selles has now. he has no pressure on him as you guys have pretty much accepted relegation.

    • @james2529
      @james2529 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thejoshway764 Since you clearly don't know what you're talking about, maybe keep your opinion to yourself.

    • @Eibarwoman
      @Eibarwoman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nathan Jones has this Jose Luis Mendilibar pattern to him where they're either really good (Jones at Luton, Mendilibar for 4 of the 5 Eibar seasons and at Sevilla) or absolutely terrible (Jones at Stoke City and Southampton, Mendilibar's final Eibar season, which was a top 10 worst points haul for a La Liga team and Alaves)
      Edit: As in that relegated Eibar squad was Bryan Gil (now on loan to Sevilla from Tottenham), Anaitz Arbilla (an aging piece who might not be around next year), Quique (still with Eibar), and a goalkeeper who is a backup at Sevilla and not much else.

    • @subsilkdj
      @subsilkdj ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thejoshway764 haven't yet got to Alfiea comments on him.... But Nathan Jones had an effective preseason over the world cup as we had only two players who left to play. He embarrassed himself in the media, was tactically clueless at this level, turned on the fans, turned on his players, did not work well with existing coaches, and declared himself a managerial legend. Funnily enough, ask Stoke fans their opinions if you think it's just us. Worst manager I've ever seen at Saints.

    • @thelinedrive
      @thelinedrive ปีที่แล้ว

      Y’all were likely to be relegation fodder to begin with this season. Having a poor manager just made it a certainty.

  • @powerviolentnightmare5026
    @powerviolentnightmare5026 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    What a wonderful video and I really enjoyed the nice dunking on Thogden.

  • @seandelap8587
    @seandelap8587 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    No manager that won a league title with Leicester City could ever be on this list regardless of how they did elsewhere I mean the EPL was set up basically to stop that sort of fairytale from happening and shift the balance of power ever more towards the biggest and richest clubs so for Ranieri to break that stranglehold with Leicester is nothing short of amazing and will surely never be repeated and is among the greatest accomplishments in not only football but in sport in general and will forever be a legend for doing so

  • @Truebro79
    @Truebro79 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    that joke about Roy Hodgson being only 103 years old got me good 🤣

  • @Rassalcon
    @Rassalcon ปีที่แล้ว +13

    MY GOD THE SHADE THROWN! is this how the TH-cam drama starts?

    • @tombo416
      @tombo416 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Not really drama when everyone is in agreement of how bad Thogdens video was, even his own fans were questioning it in the comments

  • @powerplant.
    @powerplant. ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Your segment on Bob Bradley completely summarised the thoughts running through my head when you first said his name. I had completely forgotten he had ever been here, that he had walked among us, that he had shown us his soul.

    • @Roundholesinsquarepegs
      @Roundholesinsquarepegs ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The Swansea players said he pulled his pants down to his ankles to piss 😂

    • @johnmitchell2269
      @johnmitchell2269 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Brad Bobley

    • @hadifelani
      @hadifelani 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For me it's Park Ji Sung & Mario Mandzukic.

  • @AntoniusTyas
    @AntoniusTyas ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Pretty sure this is just an excuse for Alfie to do a Thogden-banter.
    Not that I'm complaining.

  • @naimulislamrumi3028
    @naimulislamrumi3028 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Oh man do I LOVE the smell of banter!

  • @dimitristhomas3812
    @dimitristhomas3812 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Schedule thogden vs Alfie, the TH-cam fight we all need

  • @AdamOBrien29
    @AdamOBrien29 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The shade and banter against the fraud that is thogden is quality Alfie 😅

  • @vinnyward6547
    @vinnyward6547 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    As a Villa fan i can agree with Gerrard's inclusion on here, without Beale Gerrard hasn't got a clue, he was just the face. Look at Villa under Emery with just 1 player of his own brought in other than that he basically has the same squad Gerrard did and we all know what happened from there.

    • @VillaFanDan92
      @VillaFanDan92 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The fact that Gerrard managed to upset just about every player he was trying to motivate. Constantly publically criticising Watkins and Mings in the press - blaming them for games where the whole team weren't at their best - then as soon as he leaves they are two of the most in-form players in the league. Funny how that happens.

    • @fletch3758
      @fletch3758 ปีที่แล้ว

      Villa supporter also...if Gerrard is included, so should Tim Sherwood & Remi Garde

    • @VillaFanDan92
      @VillaFanDan92 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@fletch3758 Sherwood saved us from relegation and got us to an FA Cup final in his first season.

    • @skillen19
      @skillen19 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@VillaFanDan92 Remi Garde on the other hand...

  • @AS-rm5he
    @AS-rm5he ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Soon as I heard Terry Connor, I had a little "aww" to myself. Remember him being interviewed after playing City and relegation being confirmed, the poor lad was in tears.

    • @lorddarlo6194
      @lorddarlo6194 ปีที่แล้ว

      West Brom basically relegated Wolves 5-1 Loss at home to your local rivals sacking Mick Mccarthy who could have kept them up to appoint his assistant usually you sack both managers

  • @darryl2306
    @darryl2306 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Those digs at Thogden are brilliant.

  • @mikecarroll35
    @mikecarroll35 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'd recommend the people who take cheapshots at Bob Bradley search for a documentary on his time as coach of the Egyptian National Team called "American Pharaoh". He led them to an undefeated qualifying campaign in the middle of a civil war and literally marched in the street with protesters. Of course CAF ended up screwing them over by not seeding them and they drew (IIRC) Ivory Coast when they were just about the top team in the region and lost out on WC qualification.

  • @TheAlphaDingo
    @TheAlphaDingo ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Sometimes for a laugh on football manager, I make John Carver the Sunderland manager, Les Reed Real Madrid boss, Derek Ure the Arsenal boss, David Hockaday Chelsea boss, Robbie Fowler the Man Utd boss and Steve McClaren the Liverpool boss; just to see who lasts the longest. Derek Ure (of East Stirlingshire fame) actually won back to back titles with Arsenal on my most recent career. If I'm feeling extra devious, after they are sacked, I reappoint them to their post

  • @geoffersonairplane9338
    @geoffersonairplane9338 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is your best video yet. And that has nothing to do with the actual football content. Keep up the good work...(proper ellipsis) x

  • @timteichmann6830
    @timteichmann6830 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    3:26 one of the reasons why I think you are the best football content creator is your attention to important details.
    Instead of just starting with a short introduction to a cheap 5 minutes video you took the time to completely dunk on a different cc just because you could and wanted to do so.
    Also your essays on unknown topics are phenomenal so yeah 10/10 love from Berlin ❤

  • @dimitristhomas3812
    @dimitristhomas3812 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Keep up the great work

  • @mediterraneandiet2483
    @mediterraneandiet2483 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Lampard’s last 20 games as a manager.
    1 Win. 2 Draws. 17 Losses.

  • @marky1173
    @marky1173 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That thumbnail is about to become a meme soon.

  • @richiesimons4403
    @richiesimons4403 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good video Alfie.
    I do have to disagree with a couple of things.
    Steven Gerrard is a brilliant manager and was doing an outstanding job of taking Villa back down to the Championship.
    Sometimes owners, who usually know nothing about football, should just stay out of the way and let the Manager get on with things.
    And as for Sir Terry Connor. Well. A bona fide legend, along side Lord McCarthy. It was our 5-1 humiliation of Wolves, at Molineaux that season, that started their journey to League One.
    Even though they are in much better shape now, I remember those days fondly.
    Other Premier League Managerial legends, include, Sir Tim Sherwood, Sir Remi Garde< Sir Kevin MacDonald and Sir Eric Black.
    They all played their part in relegating Aston Villa in 2016.
    These are the crumbs of comfort for us West Brom fans that are now worrying about Administration, points deductions and League One.
    As for Ranieri. He must be one of the Top10 best managers in the Premier League history, so far, if you look at what he did at Chelsea and also what he did at Leicester.

    • @1234legend1234
      @1234legend1234 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm amazed Peper Mel isn't on this list. He didn't even do anything. I loved Mad Mick and Terry Connor. Baggies legends

  • @lawrenceeverglade7493
    @lawrenceeverglade7493 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've been looking forward to the next phase of the Alfie-Thogden beef ever since it was first teased, please do another one

  • @dazzaMusic
    @dazzaMusic ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Problem with Lampard is he should’ve started in the lower leagues before heading straight to the top it’s like being an apprentice and then immediately applying to be CEO

    • @paulguise698
      @paulguise698 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hiya Dazza, Bryan Robson should of been on this list

    • @pascallovic
      @pascallovic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lampard started in the lower league at Derby County and reached the final of the play-offs. So he did well over there. If Chelsea comes after one season you can’t say ‘no’. His first 6 months at Chelsea weren’t that bad. Don’t know wat happened after that period, because he destroyed every team after that.

    • @dazzaMusic
      @dazzaMusic ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pascallovic that’s his mistake, he said yes.

  • @RUSHLAD98
    @RUSHLAD98 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Finally someone mentioning Gerrard as a terrible manager

  • @JournoMode
    @JournoMode ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Always great to hear how much of a drip Thogden is.

  • @cravenmoorehead8
    @cravenmoorehead8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 7 worst EVER TH-camrs.....
    1. Thogden
    2. Thogden
    3. Thogden
    4. Thogden
    5. Thogden
    6. Thogden
    and.......
    7. Thogden

  • @Cold_Logic
    @Cold_Logic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thogden is the literal embodiment of 'any fan off the street' who could be bothered to post his hot takes to TH-cam

  • @owen.mcgarvey1650
    @owen.mcgarvey1650 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting video man!

  • @WBGT007
    @WBGT007 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh Alfie, Alfie, Alfie. As a Burnley fan can I remind you that Brian Laws took a mid table but safe looking Burnley to the championship losing 15/18 games in charge and showing no idea of understanding top flight management.

    • @stevedaytona
      @stevedaytona ปีที่แล้ว

      "Safe looking"? Errr, no. When Laws took over we were already in free fall. The last win was 10 games in the rear view mirror. The following 9 games got us 5 points and we had conceded 18 goals while scoring 10. Laws simply carried that form on - 10 pts from 18 games under him.
      Don't get me wrong Laws was not good at all but he was on a hiding to nothing with Coyle jumping ship as he did taking the entire coaching staff with him.

  • @e_o_zoca
    @e_o_zoca ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Day 15: best XI Brazilians that played for other nations

  • @silvanafernandes8875
    @silvanafernandes8875 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    And to think that the only thing Lampard will be remembered as Chelsea manager is having put together the team that won the Champions League and having fought with Klopp's assistant when Liverpool lifted the Premier League

    • @TheGouthamCity
      @TheGouthamCity ปีที่แล้ว

      Brought in the academy talent and placed them well in to the club. Took us to a FA Cup final and top 4 finish when everyone wrote us off because Hazard leaving, transfer ban, etc...
      He was a decent manager in the first spell, but we were never going to stick with guy due to lack of experience.

  • @JohnBoyBeattie
    @JohnBoyBeattie ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always.

  • @justinmiller93
    @justinmiller93 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As much as I respect Daniel Farke for what he did with Norwich in the Championship, his Premier League record was not good. He made it there twice, managing 49 games. 6 wins, 8 draws, 35 losses. 31 goals for and 101 goals against. Out of a possible 147 points, he secured 26 for the Canaries, and opponents averaged 2 goals a game against Norwich. Again, I have so much appreciation for Farke, my favorite manager for Norwich, but this record speaks for itself.

  • @martynarmstrong4730
    @martynarmstrong4730 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was expecting Joe Kinnear over Carver, but unsurprised we had a manager in this. Carver was fortunate enough that other managers failed for longer periods, so he doesn't stick in the memory as much. He's either a decent man coach behind the scenes or has compromising photos of various people.

    • @paulguise698
      @paulguise698 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hiya Martyn, have you subscribed to The Toon Review, if your a Newcastle fan its the best channel on TH-cam, give Paul "Ditchey" Ditchburn a watch and find out for yourself

    • @Lythgoemania
      @Lythgoemania ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Joe Kinnear is nowhere near this list as he was great at Wimbledon in the 90's

  • @1630revelloify
    @1630revelloify ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm surprised that Scott Parker didn't get a mention. Having brought two teams into the PL via automatic promotion, his record at the higher level is abysmal. Apart from taking over Fulham at the end of 2019/20 (which accounted for 30% of his total PL wins), these were teams that he built, not inherited, so no excuses for taking on a dumpster fire of someone else's making. Played 53 won 10, drew 13, lost 30 for a win percentage of 19% and a points per game ratio of 1.23.

    • @gspvideo5543
      @gspvideo5543 ปีที่แล้ว

      NOT TO BE THAT PERSON… but Fulham wasn’t automatic promotion, was play-offs

    • @1630revelloify
      @1630revelloify ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gspvideo5543 Fair enough, but I think the point still stands. Great in the Championship, woeful in the PL.

  • @Chris-ni4mk
    @Chris-ni4mk ปีที่แล้ว

    Alfie mate!!! You are the goat of football journalism on TH-cam

  • @mullenio4200
    @mullenio4200 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never heard of Thogden and fortunately my TH-cam has never been poisoned by his presence.

  • @Joefish015
    @Joefish015 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thankyou for including gerrard. I’m sick of people ignoring how useless he was. Needs to build up a portfolio in league 2 before he deserves another chance at a decent sized job

  • @danielclark1691
    @danielclark1691 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a Palace fan I remember the Frank de Boer days quite well. Dark times, very dark times

    • @skillen19
      @skillen19 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was 4 games you drama queen!

  • @johntimothy1537
    @johntimothy1537 ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤vids keep em coming😎💪👊🏻

  • @briannao9251
    @briannao9251 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Please make a video on the following topics:
    -The drama/scandal surrounding Gregg Berhalter and Gio Reyna’s parents during the 2022 FIFA World Cup
    -Ranking all of the goals that won the FIFA World Cup Goal of the Tournament Award
    -The Dortmund bus bombing in 2017 right before their Champions League Quarterfinal against Monaco
    -Breaking down the iconic "Battle of Nuremberg" Round of 16 Match between Portugal and the Netherlands in the 2006 FIFA World Cup where the referee issued a record breaking 4 red cards and 16 yellow cards (Battle of Nuremberg also set the record for most yellow cards in a FIFA World Cup Match and was broken in the 2022 FIFA World Cup when the referee handed out 18 yellow cards during that contentious quarterfinal between Argentina and the Netherlands)
    -Breaking Down the Battle of Bridge game in 2016 between Tottenham and Chelsea that not only secured Leicester City the 2015-16 Premiere League title, but also set the record for the most yellow cards given to a single team (9 for Tottenham (and 3 for Chelsea)

  • @Luggoloco
    @Luggoloco ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thogden is the most unlikable football TH-cam I’ve ever seen tbf

    • @gooddypm
      @gooddypm ปีที่แล้ว

      Don’t watch then.

  • @Hilversumborn
    @Hilversumborn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Frank de Boer, Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard are prime examples of being a great player doesn’t automatically translate to being a great manager

    • @paulguise698
      @paulguise698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same as Bryan Robson

  • @KingAlanI
    @KingAlanI ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As an Everton supporter not surprised this opened up with Lampard, he definitely was allowed to stay on too long after the 21-22 relegation battle, leading to the 22-23 relegation battle. And then he failed upward getting the Chelsea job back and stinking up the joint there too. So often good players do not make good coaches.

  • @marcusdidius4090
    @marcusdidius4090 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear alfie,
    Canny video as always👍
    Delighted that you included Carver the Charver in your video👏The toon had some awful managers under Ashley(Hippo heed, Pardspew, Joke-in-ear, Wally in the brolley, cabbage heed) but Carver the Charver was the worst😱🤮
    Thankfully, those dark days are behind us - Howe-ay the Lads😁😍😎👏👍💪✊
    Regards,

    • @paulguise698
      @paulguise698 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hiya Marcus, have you subscribed to The Toon Review, Paul "Ditchey" Ditchburn (plus guests) content is really good if your a Newcastle fan, theres live streams every night besides Monday and Daily News bulletins if any news comes out about signings

  • @constablekennedy7705
    @constablekennedy7705 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a Chelsea Fan, the Frank Lampard Managerial Saga has been Painful to Watch ever since his Departure from Derby County …. 🤷🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️. ⚽️

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did a great job in his first season at Chelsea and kept Everton up last season. And after sacking him they're not any better under Dyche so he wasn't the problem. But yes, he shouldn't have come back to Stamford Bridge. It's been a disaster.

  • @scottchapman3937
    @scottchapman3937 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have never watched Thogden and on the basis of him putting my beloved Claudio in the awful list, i never will. On the topic of Claudio, can you do a 'what on earth has happened to Leicester City?!' video please. Going from title winners, FA Cup, community shield winners and Europa conference league semi finalists to a relegation scrap all within 7 years, is quite impressive. (7 years ago yesterday we won the PL - and now im sad).

    • @aimilproudman-harris2521
      @aimilproudman-harris2521 ปีที่แล้ว

      TIFO have just done something similar. Also not sure how in depth you could go when it's literally, don't rip up your entire structure and model to satisfy a mediocre coach who bottles things with more consistency than spurs

  • @caitlinmorrisxx9546
    @caitlinmorrisxx9546 ปีที่แล้ว

    Didn’t expect you to absolutely rip into thogden in the intro ahaha love it

  • @mikeybrum468
    @mikeybrum468 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video.
    Thogden v HITC in the Ring (I'd pay to watch lol).
    I think I will stay with this excellent forensic analysis of footy that HITC does so well. For Daily Star readers...well what can I say!

  • @mashiah1
    @mashiah1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why Avram Grant is not in the list? I guess the only one that relegated with two teams - Portsmouth and West Ham(that had a squad worth European qualification). Yes he reached Champions League final with Chelsea, but it was thanks to his assistant

    • @BOABModels
      @BOABModels ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He was a great manager for Portsmouth - we had a points deduction due to administration, no money to spend. Grant wasn't there the whole season BUT got us to the FA cup final. We only lost 1-0 to League winners Chelsea as well.

    • @alanmtbuk
      @alanmtbuk ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm here for Derby County and Phil Jewell

    • @Roundholesinsquarepegs
      @Roundholesinsquarepegs ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alanmtbukPaul not Phil

    • @alanmtbuk
      @alanmtbuk ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Roundholesinsquarepegs oops my bad and he wasn't even on this list lol

    • @Lythgoemania
      @Lythgoemania ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Grant only did a bad job at West Ham. He did fine enough at Chelsea and took an administration stricken Portsmouth to the FA Cup final.

  • @BALHAM69
    @BALHAM69 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    a documentary of Borussia Dortmund and how they were extremely close to bankruptcy in 2002 time and how Bayern had to save them. The extreme difficulties the club has had to manage within to get back to where they are #thepeopleschannel

  • @annonimouse170
    @annonimouse170 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Alfie, I didn't pause it when you displayed the table at the point when Bob Bradley got sacked, there was a team below Swansea in the table but I didn't make out who it was. Could you tell me please? 😉

  • @Tris2000
    @Tris2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    3rd request: @HITCSevens Idea for episode: the 7 players currently playing in the lowest division in England to have played (or still playing) senior international football. Eg Knory Scott plays for Bermuda + Hastings Utd (level 7); Anthony Jeffrey plays for Guyana + Billericay Town (7).

  • @sparkymlarky
    @sparkymlarky ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thogden is to football........what Diane abott is to mathematics.

    • @oliverapex7924
      @oliverapex7924 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Diane Abbot graduated from Cambridge…where did u graduate from?

    • @sparkymlarky
      @sparkymlarky ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oliverapex7924
      Cambridge teachers obviously need sacking then

  • @matthewblomfield8817
    @matthewblomfield8817 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7 best/worst/funniest own goals

  • @paularmstrong6092
    @paularmstrong6092 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please please tell me that the Vue pictured was the one at Princess Quay which has to be one of my favourite cinemas 😊

  • @leaguesmanoframsgate
    @leaguesmanoframsgate ปีที่แล้ว

    Proper comment: I'm very curious as to who you would pick as a manager for dragging various national teams out of the doldrums. Perhaps there's a video in that too: seven worst European national managers of the Premier League era, with honourable mentions for Don Revie and the Turnip.

  • @PassivesAbseits
    @PassivesAbseits ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Remind me to never get on Alfies bad side... the shots he's firing are insane.

  • @triple-bee_33beast13
    @triple-bee_33beast13 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can you do a video about the Rise and Fall of South African Football. They were AFCON champions in 1996 now they can not even qualify.
    They had players in Premier League the likes of Lucas Radebe now not a single player

    • @MikoyanGurevichMiG21
      @MikoyanGurevichMiG21 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't forget the legend and arguably their GOAT - Steven Pienaar!!

    • @archaicrapture
      @archaicrapture ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Benny Mccarthy.

  • @coyh1493
    @coyh1493 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s one of your funniest videos Alfie, in case you missed it, Thogden and Thogdad have an incisive video on the best/worst third kits, amazing journalism...
    Have you considered a video on ...
    Ex Watford managers, where are they now? However to condense this into 30 odd minutes, may be a push.

  • @hpracecraft
    @hpracecraft ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Controversial? As a Villa fan I was watching in hope he made the list!

  • @yasin_GD
    @yasin_GD ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you do a video on the biggest overachievers in management?

    • @carlosbarton763
      @carlosbarton763 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ironically including Ranieri in a video like that would actually make a ton of sense 🤣

    • @Killer1984able
      @Killer1984able ปีที่แล้ว

      Tuchel

  • @user-gx5uo9oe1i
    @user-gx5uo9oe1i ปีที่แล้ว +4

    2 losses and one defeat lol

  • @indianfiddler
    @indianfiddler ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That thogden diss is the best thing i have ever seen on this channel😂

  • @mypurpleglasses
    @mypurpleglasses ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro, I prefer you over many other football TH-camr. It might not mean much. I do enjoy your explanation and presentation.

  • @nathanb286
    @nathanb286 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Surely Scott Parker was a worse manager than Steven Gerrard

    • @Lythgoemania
      @Lythgoemania ปีที่แล้ว

      I genuinely don't even think Parker would have done as bad with Villa as Gerrard did

  • @richardpearce4988
    @richardpearce4988 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Am not a Gerrard fan as a manager, but I think he deserves some credit in the SPL for bringing in a really good assistant coach, and being pretty upfront about the fact he needed him at Rangers to account for his own shortcomings and experience - in a way this is a sign of a good younger manager. However he really wasn't great in the EPL, this is true. If he'd showed the same humility and kept a good mgt team around him, he might still have a job somewhere.

  • @flippindeadly
    @flippindeadly ปีที่แล้ว

    Thought Sherwood and Kean would be nailed on in this one....
    Great stuff as always though 🙌🙌🙌💯💯💯

  • @goooooooogle6834
    @goooooooogle6834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is the best introduction to a video anyone has ever done

  • @Chefkejr
    @Chefkejr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    5:00 2 losses and one defeat is the kinda wordchoice I'd go for if I need my essay to reach a minimum ammount of words

  • @orbee1873
    @orbee1873 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are a massive fan of Thogden I'm guessing

  • @marcusaurelius49
    @marcusaurelius49 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your floors must be quite slippery with all that sarcasm dripping onto them 😂😂

  • @Yorkman7
    @Yorkman7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have you forgotten about Felix Magath who coached Fulham in 2014. His remedy for, I think Bred Hagelands muscle injury, was to rub it with cheese. He only won 4 out of 20 games and left the squad wondering what the hell he was about.

    • @philipdemicoli7409
      @philipdemicoli7409 ปีที่แล้ว

      Awful manager he was there

    • @skillen19
      @skillen19 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I see your Felix and raise you a Remi Garde, 3 wins out of 23

    • @philipdemicoli7409
      @philipdemicoli7409 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@skillen19 great shout