Hey! Got a long-ish one here, but I gotta tell ya, your tips here do help make a streamer's life so much easier. Two techniques you covered here I make extensive use of in my OBS Studio setup: 1. Nested scenes! This one, I learned from another person's stream. This helps me ENORMOUSLY. I use it for abstraction, mainly. Example: For a visual source, I add a game, then make sure it fills the canvas. No, it's not gonna fill the screen, but instead, it's going to be included in another scene which is sized to fit in a PNG frame., and THAT scene is included in the final scene. I also use it to build up overlay abstraction scenes so I can flip between TH-cam and Twitch streams. Selecting that and other scenes which allow me to select which music I open and close my streams with are also in scenes. Again, I flip visibility depending on whether it's a Twitch or TH-cam stream. And if an abstraction scene is set up so that only one layer is visible, I use Exeldro's Source Toggler Lua script to help out. ENORMOUSLY useful! For programming sources, I will have several scenes, like: - Game scene -- Game capture - Game scene -- Window capture (some tougher games, like Nation Red, require this). - TH-cam source -- I use YTCP to show some livestreams in my streams, where I have a control panel in a web panel and the program panel as a browser source. - Browser source -- In case I want to browse the web but not with a web browser, I'll set up a browser source, then set the source to "interact" with it. Should work for web games as well, e.g. Mahjong Soul. - Browser capture -- Just a window or display capture of a web browser. Duh. - Anything else I then full-size the source while a conduit scene has all the source classes bundled together, and then I just alter the visibility of the source I want people to see, again, it's full-sized, but I don't have to mess with it whenever I use a new source. I also have a bottom graphic I try to never make invisible so that if I mess up, it'll tell me on-screen, "Hey, you dolt! You don't have source class (xyz). Check it!" That way the system will practically troubleshoot itself. Finally, I use a final source to include the above abstraction scene, acting as an "endpoint" for the source pipeline. It's permanently sized to fit the area where it will be shown on-screen. And with all that insane amount of abstraction I create with conduit and endpoint scenes, as well as the sources that go through those conduits and displayed by the endpoints, how do I tell what's what? That brings me to: 2. Separators! This one, I figured out on my own. My biggest gripe is I wish I could reuse separators. You CAN with Streamlabs, but you can't with OBS Studio. However, I'm digressing a little, so allow me to get back on track. I use a couple levels' worth of labeling. I create wide-spaced, right-justified labels for classes of item blocks in the scenes, e.g. scenes that face the viewer, scenes that are conduits for abstraction, endpoints that end up on my layout that goes out on stream, and, of course, the all-important sourcing scenes. They're big and right-justified so I can find them as I twirl my mouse wheel. Then I use smaller-spaced text with "borders" so I can sub-classify scenes therein. My biggest gripe about doing it this way without a dedicated "marker/remark" scene is that a lot of programs that grab a list of the scenes via Websockets, e.g. LioranBoard's receiver and other programs that allow me to pull down a list of scenes, that's a bigger payload of stuff for these programs to pull down. Worse, it may not be in the same order as they are in OBS itself. So you may have all your labels at the very top, then all your scenes below. That's where it may pay to tag those scenes the same way you suggested tagging sources. Also, just like how you can't use HTML tagging on scene names, likewise you can't assign colors to them. Oh well. Anyway, lots of good stuff! I may do something like you may do and that's give a tour of my own setup. I'm already setting up a tutorial for migrating from SLOBS to OBS Studio (yes, I know, there are already plenty of those out there, but I'm in the VTuber community, so this may resonate with VTubers more, plus there are VTubing-related things to account for, too). Thanks for putting this up! While I already used those two techniques I mentioned above, you gave me more ideas of what I can use!
Have been using nested scenes a bit for a while now. Was starting to explore them further, and you just opened a world of opportunity. Or pain. Probably both. I think I blew a valve contemplating all the potential things I can do with your suggestions.
I've been using photoshop for like 2 decades now, whenever something doesn't have layers I'm at a loss for what to do. Not having nested groups in OBS hurt me deeply, took a while to figure out you can achieve the same with nested scenes. It's _really_ not the most intuitive way to deal with layering, but jank like this is just a good reminder that OBS is a open source hobby project rather than a professional production tool.
Love the self-deprecating Editor Notes lol - your humour has always been top notch. Also, HTML source fonts was a new one for me. Keep up the great work Nutty!
For your scene setup you should do a longer format livestream event for it where you can deep dive into all the details of how you have it set up. I love your professional production quality with focus on memes which makes it unique, high quality and a great time.
Do you have a video explaining your camera stack sources? most of it I get without going into details of the FX layers. but why does layer 1 have nothing and just points to layer 2? Whats the logic behind that?
As a former copy and paste abuser, I learned about Nested scenes from one of your old videos and I can't believe I used OBS without nested scenes before. Absolute life changer!
You have been a lifesaver for me when it comes to understanding OBS better. If it wasn't for a video of yours i didn't even know about nested scenes. Thank you for all you do.
Recently discovered nested scenes to do audio and its the greatest thing that ever happened to me. Now, thanks to your video, i am so excited to go update my OBS
Your template idea is so simple I feel stupid for not having thought of it before. Last stream I had I was literally complaining about not having alignment options like in graphic design software and how useful that would be in OBS. I’ll definitely be doing that in the future.
The separators are the only thing that keep my scenes in order and from me losing my mind. I've used nested scenes since you taught me how to last year...appreciate that
Love the “Seperators”. I actually started doing this a while back and I was always wondering if it could cause any trouble, it didn’t appear to. Seeing your doing it… must not!
One of the most powerful things I found with nested scenes that wasn't really touched upon was the ability to turn off a certain source in all scenes it appears in. Do you switch between game streams and watching videos on youtube streams and you have several different sized scenes? Just put the browser that in its own scene and only use this scene nested in other scenes where you want the browser visible. One click and the browser is gone everywhere and you won't have an incident where your twitch dashboard lays on top of a scene where you forgot to remove it, or in a new scene you forgot to add to individually toggle in the macro
Hello, your vids helped me add snap camera to OBS but I am having difficulty flipping the camera horizontally as it won’t let me configure the video. Could you help at all?
Yo I saw you had some poll colour sources in obs at 7:40 Is this a custom poll? OR does it display the twitch poll on your stream? Or is it something else? In any case, would love a tutorial on it! Also, thanks for all the videos as well, you're a bloody legend!
I'm new to OBS and getting things set up bc i'm one of those Losers that used SLOBS and any question I have your videos always seem to pop up for me and they have been so helpful. Thank you for this video now i can plan my OBS better!
How about making just one seriously badass, super complicated, mega pro-looking scene and explaining how you did it. That would be cool. ... Oh thank you for all the hard work you do,
Lets get you out of the rookie numbers and help you get that plaque. Your videos have been a major help in getting me up and running in OBS. Im now going back to some of your vids as I keep trying to improve upon what I have.
Love your videos, not only are they informative but I also love the vibe, the humour. Keep it up !! Oh and btw, I use nested scenes already but the tip about planning the layout in Affinity Designer is something I'll start doing. VERY NIICE (Borat impression)
I finally understand how to use Nested Scenes. Thanks to this video. 👏 Now if you're inclined to, a walkthrough of Making a Template with Affinity Designer would be so cool! Merry Christmas!
I have a question. Is it really so good to use scene nesting and not groups? I think its better for the performance to use groups except of tons of scenes. Correct me if im wrong but thats what i thought about 😄
Nested scenes are really a game changer ... i just lazy onm the naming and put a _ before the sub-scene names ;) but the idea is pretty much the same .. also controlling them via streamdeck is then possible too, like turning off the camera you just add the command to the subscene and you go dark regardless what scene is active, that's impossible to do without nested scenes)
I’d love to know the Letter meaning for every letter? As I’d love to use the abbreviation for all the different items i’m better visually without colors :)
How often do you change layouts between games? I get different scenes between ds and pc cause of the screen. But playing doom, or minecraft I would think you would have the same layout. Just different boarders.
Yesss Thanks for the Awesome Tips with nested scenes. You explained this perfectly and we will def try it out on our upcoming 2022 shows. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you Fam Big Up 🎁🌲🎅🎉🥂❤️
How does your OBS not explode with all those scenes? I had to make multiple scene profiles bc my obs was struggling. (Then again if I had a proper rig it would probably be better BUT STILL I AM IN SHOCK!!!) Thank you for the tips!! I always love learning about streaming from you, youve got good tips and great humor :>
Great tips I am new to OBS but I have a question you put your cameras in scenes. Do you put the round edges on the camera in the scenes or in the scene that you use the scene as a source???
I always use Nested scenes since I lerned you could do that.. Makes it so much easier to move a lot of stuff in 1 go, and as long as I use it more than 1 place, its better to make scene have it in that, and then use that in the scenes you want the stuff Also... I like nuts
Me: having only one scene with a free layout and struggling. The guy on TH-cam video you are watching at 5am scrolling through scenes like Dr. Strange going through all the 14.000.605:
Personally I use a combination of both nested scenes and groups. I don't really see how nested scenes are more optimal than grouping for a lot of this stuff. For example I can take all the browser source and graphical elements of my overlay, group them, then mirror copies of that group into the scenes where they're needed. I can even house the "original" groups in their own separate storage scene to keep that neater. I can still apply filters and transforms and whatnot to the group itself and have them apply to all contents the same as they do with nested scenes, it just looks much cleaner and more organized in OBS to me. Or am I missing something? Legitimately asking. Is it because things like streamer bot and stream decks work better with nested scenes? I haven't used either of those. I'm about to fire OBS up and test the differences again I just didn't see it being the best solution while setting up my layout.
If you're going to put the group in its own scene, you might as well do away with the group altogether and just nest the whole scene where you need it. The transform box works horribly with sources that are contained within groups and make it very difficult to put sources exactly where you want them.
I know you were kinda joking about being depressed, but seriously, I basically fixed the majority of my depression by getting 8.5 hours of sleep EVERY NIGHT before 11pm. Humans are weak, and need rest.
Who wants to see a tour of my OBS layout?
Me
Hell yea
👋 Me too!
OBS? I tought you are using SLOBS :v
I would like to see that as well! Thank you!
Hey! Got a long-ish one here, but I gotta tell ya, your tips here do help make a streamer's life so much easier.
Two techniques you covered here I make extensive use of in my OBS Studio setup:
1. Nested scenes!
This one, I learned from another person's stream. This helps me ENORMOUSLY. I use it for abstraction, mainly. Example: For a visual source, I add a game, then make sure it fills the canvas. No, it's not gonna fill the screen, but instead, it's going to be included in another scene which is sized to fit in a PNG frame., and THAT scene is included in the final scene.
I also use it to build up overlay abstraction scenes so I can flip between TH-cam and Twitch streams. Selecting that and other scenes which allow me to select which music I open and close my streams with are also in scenes. Again, I flip visibility depending on whether it's a Twitch or TH-cam stream. And if an abstraction scene is set up so that only one layer is visible, I use Exeldro's Source Toggler Lua script to help out. ENORMOUSLY useful!
For programming sources, I will have several scenes, like:
- Game scene -- Game capture
- Game scene -- Window capture (some tougher games, like Nation Red, require this).
- TH-cam source -- I use YTCP to show some livestreams in my streams, where I have a control panel in a web panel and the program panel as a browser source.
- Browser source -- In case I want to browse the web but not with a web browser, I'll set up a browser source, then set the source to "interact" with it. Should work for web games as well, e.g. Mahjong Soul.
- Browser capture -- Just a window or display capture of a web browser. Duh.
- Anything else
I then full-size the source while a conduit scene has all the source classes bundled together, and then I just alter the visibility of the source I want people to see, again, it's full-sized, but I don't have to mess with it whenever I use a new source. I also have a bottom graphic I try to never make invisible so that if I mess up, it'll tell me on-screen, "Hey, you dolt! You don't have source class (xyz). Check it!" That way the system will practically troubleshoot itself.
Finally, I use a final source to include the above abstraction scene, acting as an "endpoint" for the source pipeline. It's permanently sized to fit the area where it will be shown on-screen.
And with all that insane amount of abstraction I create with conduit and endpoint scenes, as well as the sources that go through those conduits and displayed by the endpoints, how do I tell what's what? That brings me to:
2. Separators!
This one, I figured out on my own. My biggest gripe is I wish I could reuse separators. You CAN with Streamlabs, but you can't with OBS Studio. However, I'm digressing a little, so allow me to get back on track.
I use a couple levels' worth of labeling. I create wide-spaced, right-justified labels for classes of item blocks in the scenes, e.g. scenes that face the viewer, scenes that are conduits for abstraction, endpoints that end up on my layout that goes out on stream, and, of course, the all-important sourcing scenes. They're big and right-justified so I can find them as I twirl my mouse wheel. Then I use smaller-spaced text with "borders" so I can sub-classify scenes therein.
My biggest gripe about doing it this way without a dedicated "marker/remark" scene is that a lot of programs that grab a list of the scenes via Websockets, e.g. LioranBoard's receiver and other programs that allow me to pull down a list of scenes, that's a bigger payload of stuff for these programs to pull down. Worse, it may not be in the same order as they are in OBS itself. So you may have all your labels at the very top, then all your scenes below. That's where it may pay to tag those scenes the same way you suggested tagging sources. Also, just like how you can't use HTML tagging on scene names, likewise you can't assign colors to them. Oh well.
Anyway, lots of good stuff! I may do something like you may do and that's give a tour of my own setup. I'm already setting up a tutorial for migrating from SLOBS to OBS Studio (yes, I know, there are already plenty of those out there, but I'm in the VTuber community, so this may resonate with VTubers more, plus there are VTubing-related things to account for, too).
Thanks for putting this up! While I already used those two techniques I mentioned above, you gave me more ideas of what I can use!
Have been using the nested scenes and scene filters for a while but love the organizational tips, both the "tags" and the scene separators. Thanks!!
5:27 Yes! I would be very interested in a video tour of your entire OBS Setup. You are a source of inspiration, Nutty!!
Have been using nested scenes a bit for a while now. Was starting to explore them further, and you just opened a world of opportunity. Or pain. Probably both. I think I blew a valve contemplating all the potential things I can do with your suggestions.
Blursed XD
I've been using photoshop for like 2 decades now, whenever something doesn't have layers I'm at a loss for what to do. Not having nested groups in OBS hurt me deeply, took a while to figure out you can achieve the same with nested scenes. It's _really_ not the most intuitive way to deal with layering, but jank like this is just a good reminder that OBS is a open source hobby project rather than a professional production tool.
I remember when they added nested scenes. Good times.
I'd love to see a full walkthrough of your OBS setup
Love the self-deprecating Editor Notes lol - your humour has always been top notch.
Also, HTML source fonts was a new one for me. Keep up the great work Nutty!
For your scene setup you should do a longer format livestream event for it where you can deep dive into all the details of how you have it set up. I love your professional production quality with focus on memes which makes it unique, high quality and a great time.
For sure have gotten some great tips 4rm ya. Nested the webcam with background and webcam border was a life saver for me.
Do you have a video explaining your camera stack sources? most of it I get without going into details of the FX layers. but why does layer 1 have nothing and just points to layer 2?
Whats the logic behind that?
I love the sotto voce mumbling deep truths sprinkled everywhere!
Proof yet again Nerds ARE profound, deep inside...
yessss i would love to see your entire obs setup!!!
I've been wondering how to nested scene, tyvm merry holidays!
As a former copy and paste abuser, I learned about Nested scenes from one of your old videos and I can't believe I used OBS without nested scenes before. Absolute life changer!
"Nobody is reading this right now, but I’m filling this out with text so it looks like I’m putting in effort." I see you Nutty
You always seem to post videos as soon as I need the information. Thank you for all of this free info. I really appreciate you
You have been a lifesaver for me when it comes to understanding OBS better. If it wasn't for a video of yours i didn't even know about nested scenes. Thank you for all you do.
Recently discovered nested scenes to do audio and its the greatest thing that ever happened to me. Now, thanks to your video, i am so excited to go update my OBS
You repeatedly save my assss Nutty. Thanks for making these that we can always refer back to. You are the best.
Your template idea is so simple I feel stupid for not having thought of it before. Last stream I had I was literally complaining about not having alignment options like in graphic design software and how useful that would be in OBS. I’ll definitely be doing that in the future.
I like the structural setup of the scenes and all the stuff.
Oh this is good stuff. Thanks man! PS: as a coder I'm quite disappointed in myself for not doing this already... 😅
Literally googled how prime subs work so I could give you one. Keep making the great videos
I love watching your obs videos because it is always giving me new ideas for my stream
I found this video very helpful. Thanks for making it and also not being boring lol
I started yesterday starting to nest sources, have some good ideas
Thank you for always teaching us cool stuff Nutty!
Tagging and Separators is a great idea. Thank you very much!!
The separators are the only thing that keep my scenes in order and from me losing my mind. I've used nested scenes since you taught me how to last year...appreciate that
Awesome tips & tricks as always Nutty! 😄👍👍
Cheers! 🥃🥃
Love the “Seperators”. I actually started doing this a while back and I was always wondering if it could cause any trouble, it didn’t appear to. Seeing your doing it… must not!
One of the most powerful things I found with nested scenes that wasn't really touched upon was the ability to turn off a certain source in all scenes it appears in. Do you switch between game streams and watching videos on youtube streams and you have several different sized scenes? Just put the browser that in its own scene and only use this scene nested in other scenes where you want the browser visible. One click and the browser is gone everywhere and you won't have an incident where your twitch dashboard lays on top of a scene where you forgot to remove it, or in a new scene you forgot to add to individually toggle in the macro
the amount of organization is unreal
The man at the top of the OBS game back at it again! Love to see these kind of videos Nutty!
Love the Source Tagging tip, definitely something I'll have to revise my own setup for.
Hey nutty really love your videos!
Hello, your vids helped me add snap camera to OBS but I am having difficulty flipping the camera horizontally as it won’t let me configure the video. Could you help at all?
Yo I saw you had some poll colour sources in obs at 7:40
Is this a custom poll? OR does it display the twitch poll on your stream? Or is it something else?
In any case, would love a tutorial on it!
Also, thanks for all the videos as well, you're a bloody legend!
Thanks, man! Very informative.
I'm new to OBS and getting things set up bc i'm one of those Losers that used SLOBS and any question I have your videos always seem to pop up for me and they have been so helpful. Thank you for this video now i can plan my OBS better!
Ima try that template layout thing!
Can’t wait for the hour long OBS tutorial
Omgosh it's us in your Activity Feed at 6:16 :)
Nice! I didn't know about using HTML tags for sources. That is going to help. Yes, it would be cool for Scenes too, that would rock.
How about making just one seriously badass, super complicated, mega pro-looking scene and explaining how you did it. That would be cool. ... Oh thank you for all the hard work you do,
Happy Holidays man! Thank you for the hottest of tips. :)
I loved these tips! Anything to help me better organize I'm there for! Thanks!
Lets get you out of the rookie numbers and help you get that plaque.
Your videos have been a major help in getting me up and running in OBS. Im now going back to some of your vids as I keep trying to improve upon what I have.
You earned you YT Plaque today, dude!
would love to see a follow up video about making the templates
Love your videos, not only are they informative but I also love the vibe, the humour. Keep it up !!
Oh and btw, I use nested scenes already but the tip about planning the layout in Affinity Designer is something I'll start doing. VERY NIICE (Borat impression)
Thx for your videos. I love it. Where can i get the templates? Greets from Germany
I definitely want to see your OBS layout!
Nutty on stream a few days ago "You guys LOVE lists, wait for the next vid!"
I wasn't lying lol
THE RETURN OF THE KING
I finally understand how to use Nested Scenes. Thanks to this video. 👏 Now if you're inclined to, a walkthrough of Making a Template with Affinity Designer would be so cool! Merry Christmas!
Hey Nutty, how did you hide the icons for your sources in the sources window?
Is there any reason to prefer layered scenes over groups?
I want to see a OBS layout tour!
"I want my layouts to be pixel perfect" *proceeds to make DS Screen 100 pixels tall*
Yes make more OBS vids showing more how your setup works. I just started using OBS. I find the chromakey is pretty shitty
I have a question. Is it really so good to use scene nesting and not groups? I think its better for the performance to use groups except of tons of scenes. Correct me if im wrong but thats what i thought about 😄
Nested scenes are really a game changer ... i just lazy onm the naming and put a _ before the sub-scene names ;) but the idea is pretty much the same ..
also controlling them via streamdeck is then possible too, like turning off the camera you just add the command to the subscene and you go dark regardless what scene is active, that's impossible to do without nested scenes)
infinity or affinity designer?...and is there a way to see your layouts and maybe customize them to our liking?
Can we somehow get this guy to 100.000 for Christmas? Anyone in any big Facebook groups or something?
Another great video! 👏
I’d love to know the Letter meaning for every letter? As I’d love to use the abbreviation for all the different items i’m better visually without colors :)
How often do you change layouts between games? I get different scenes between ds and pc cause of the screen. But playing doom, or minecraft I would think you would have the same layout. Just different boarders.
Please man, do tell me over and over because I really am dumb on this stuff! I appreciate YOU!
Yesss Thanks for the Awesome Tips with nested scenes. You explained this perfectly and we will def try it out on our upcoming 2022 shows. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you Fam Big Up 🎁🌲🎅🎉🥂❤️
How does your OBS not explode with all those scenes? I had to make multiple scene profiles bc my obs was struggling. (Then again if I had a proper rig it would probably be better BUT STILL I AM IN SHOCK!!!)
Thank you for the tips!! I always love learning about streaming from you, youve got good tips and great humor :>
Gracias está super genial el de png jajajaj 🤣
Great tips I am new to OBS but I have a question you put your cameras in scenes. Do you put the round edges on the camera in the scenes or in the scene that you use the scene as a source???
My OBS Guru❤️
Merry Christmas
I always use Nested scenes since I lerned you could do that.. Makes it so much easier to move a lot of stuff in 1 go, and as long as I use it more than 1 place, its better to make scene have it in that, and then use that in the scenes you want the stuff
Also... I like nuts
Great content thanks
Great vid
Also name of the game playing in the background?
When you know what tentacle locker love is. I Kno the guy that helped make the art for it XD
Is there anything you can’t do on the OBS master
Nutty, can you teach us how to save/back-up everything? That way if sh*t happens, I can easily restore my scenes and sources if I ever needed to.
Me: having only one scene with a free layout and struggling.
The guy on TH-cam video you are watching at 5am scrolling through scenes like Dr. Strange going through all the 14.000.605:
5:27 I was just asking in your discord server if you've done one. I'M WAITNG FOR ONE PLEASE!!!!
What resolution/ratio do you record at? It looks like you always have a nice letterboxing effect O.o
Can't wait for the tutorial of how to make a filter with effects.
I need this dudes hair care regimen asap
thought about putting up your obs layout planning template up and charging donations or mailing list subscribers?
Would love a tutorial on things like camera shake!
This chick's videos are very informative.
Interesting, does scenes/sources names support Unicode emojies, might be an alternative for [tags]
Edit: just checked, yes it does !
Thanks
whos's your fav basketball team? and player?
6th step: watches Nutty.
this is great
Hello. You are helpful and entertaining. Thank you.
Personally I use a combination of both nested scenes and groups.
I don't really see how nested scenes are more optimal than grouping for a lot of this stuff.
For example I can take all the browser source and graphical elements of my overlay, group them, then mirror copies of that group into the scenes where they're needed. I can even house the "original" groups in their own separate storage scene to keep that neater. I can still apply filters and transforms and whatnot to the group itself and have them apply to all contents the same as they do with nested scenes, it just looks much cleaner and more organized in OBS to me.
Or am I missing something? Legitimately asking. Is it because things like streamer bot and stream decks work better with nested scenes? I haven't used either of those. I'm about to fire OBS up and test the differences again I just didn't see it being the best solution while setting up my layout.
If you're going to put the group in its own scene, you might as well do away with the group altogether and just nest the whole scene where you need it.
The transform box works horribly with sources that are contained within groups and make it very difficult to put sources exactly where you want them.
isnt this way of using scenes more taxing on your machine when you use it this way or doesnt it really matter?
There is no meaningful difference.
good job broo
Thank you for making this, I found it really helpful as a new OBS user. Note that your Discord Link has expired.
I know you were kinda joking about being depressed, but seriously, I basically fixed the majority of my depression by getting 8.5 hours of sleep EVERY NIGHT before 11pm. Humans are weak, and need rest.