April and Hoovie fight over the best year for modern cars, according to Car and Driver's 10 best...
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1999-2005 is when shit really started getting good
As a young 20-something, my first new car purchase was the first-year Nissan 300ZX turbo, black with T-top. I drove the heck out of that car, never crashed, never ticketed. Man I miss that car!
As a brand new car that was like driving a dream. I drove a cream colored one with the convertible and I didn't want to get out of it.
I traded a '91 Porsche 928S4 for your 300ZX TT back then. I added the Stillen mods to it so the turbo would boost more and what a handful it was when traction was poor. I somewhat miss it too but if you recall, it was a nightmare to work on as the engine bay was packed edge to edge with a bazillion hoses.
My Uncle (who was one of the smartest person I knew) not only bought a new PT Cruiser, but went on the "waiting list" to get it. This man put some of the coolest street rods together out of his backyard garage, but if you asked him "why is the sky blue" he could tell you. I guess as humans we're all flawed.........
I love to mod cars & make them cool but I don't think I could do anything to a PT cruiser to help it! Now the Prowler I could.
My neighbor drives a Pontiac 6000, it’s still on the road everyday in Tucson Arizona, and still rust free.
Does anything in Arizona rust? I live in Ontario Canada where everything rusts. I was in Arizona / Nevada last year and couldn't believe how mint some of the mundane 90's cars were. Grand ams and such!
Paint & clear coat probably long gone but no rust. I live in Florida, its humid so cars rust a little but cars left out the clear coat & headlights show their age fast.
I believe the GNX wasn't even in contention because it was priced above the price limit CD places every year for 10 Best. Another thing: the SC400 came to market a whole year before the SC300 and not the other way around.
Heh, my junior high school Spanish teacher drove a cherry red RX-7, her husband was a Gynecologist.
I miss those caprices. However, I would have picked the rx7. My aunt had a blue one!
OMG! I was also going to pick 1987 because of the Grand National. April and I are kindred souls. 🏁
It kind of wins by default, not many stand out cars maybe the old NSX 1994?
Never understood the popularity in current times for the Grand National. Had a buddy with one in High School and another that was looking at them before he got his Foxbody so drove many. Never drove right. Sputtered and GM only warranty on them for a year. They truly were junk. The Monte Carlo SS was slower but must say drove better and was so much of a better car.
2008 was a great year just before the credit crunch. I still own three cars from that year and I love them all, an Aston Martin Vantage roadster, a TT roadster and a BMW e90.
Agree 1000%
The Sentra SE-R was underrated, I owned two of them, and still miss them as they were quick (not fast) and tossable. Factory LSD wasn't bad either.
Factory LSD is underrated
E46 M3 alone makes 2002 win but the Z06 Vette or even the Imprezza WRX alone arguably would have too. And yet all 3 were in C & D's '02 Top 10!
I had a Lexus SC 300 new in 1992. Great car.
Shocked to know they made them in manual .
93 by far. Year I graduated and loved all of those
Okay. Big update. I really loved that April dressed down this episode. She seemed more comfortable and looked perfect for the show. Great content and it was easy to watch. Great picks for both of you on the best of the last 40 years of driving excellence.
I had a 98 Honda Prelude it was my favorite car I've ever owned. I'm 37 I've had a lot of cars but I always go. back to wanting to get another Prelude
April is like Joy on The Herd with Colin Cowherd. Great co-host for Tyler.
My favorite TH-cam channel!
It's hard to say. I like the 60s cars. like the Corvette that got the aluminum engine that was supposedly 550 horsepower but was rated much less. Then there's the 90s, so many good cars there. 80s had some great cars. Turbo GM cars, Porsche 911s, Mercedes of the 80s
1987… the year I graduated high school. 😎
Same here, 87 Grad. And, I still own my 1987 Grand National GN. 16K miles and slowwwwly counting.
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Who are you saving it for?? Drive that sumbitch! 😁
Same here
I'm glad the ford focus made the list. Personally the MK2 is the best version of it. There are still plenty in the UK MK2 and the facelift version about.. especially the st and rs models
You both crushed it.
I knew April was 1987 immediately! My #1 dream car is the 1987 Buick Grand National. Has to have the T-Tops.
There’s a company or two that make twin to four or more rotary engines in Australia. I will soon be ordering a four rotor for a custom RX-7.
Memories…. So many have come and gone.
I thought about it after reading the title and before watching the video. I also came up with '93. Along with the ones you mentioned, It was the first year of the 4th gen Camaro/Firebird. Both of which had the LT-1, and massive improvements over the 3rd gen. Also it was the last year of the fox-body Mustang. The next year SN95 was a huge let down.
Had about 3 of that gen Foci, UK based and the Euro version was a different beast to the US version, better suspension, handling and build quality.
SVT suspension and sticky tires made the Focus handle brilliantly. The "holy grail" factory powertrain combo - the 2.3L 4 and 5-speed manual - were only available in two model years in California, sadly. A 2.5L swap from the Fusion and manual transmission really wake these up!
@@JREwing78 We had a UK version with the 2.5L Volvo engine, it flew! The regular Focus 98-05 (Europe) was the leader at that time as good as the Golf.
Ford Focus was 99% sold as a hatchback with a manual. The Sedan was for old people often sold with an automatic. Very popular car. You see them everywhere in Europe.
Great concept, really enjoyed this
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For me, it is the 1993 Camaro. I was one of the first to own one. Still have it. Heavily modified. If I had the money, I would have loved a new or near new 1990 BMW 850
I always thought the 82-92 Camaro was better looking. The 93-up was a much better car, I’ll give you that
Those 850 sharks were quite nice.
@@davidtoups4684 I was so wowed when the 3rd gen f-cars came out!! So futuristic! But their performance suffered greatly by the 80’s smog restrictions. They did have 240hp until the last year
@@aussie2uGA I adored them
Here's my two,an NSX1994 & BMW M3 E46 vert about 2005,Laguna Sec a blue manual please!
In Australia, we say Mazda with the 'a' vowel rhyming with the word 'trap'.
Damn…. Tyler just straight up said Jake is strange for owning a PT cruiser lol
Smart beautiful and knows her cars she’s a keeper
The hook is set,reel her in Hoover!
I had a 93 Lexus SC300, it was pretty nice. I got the rear spoiler and tinted the back 3. Wish it was the manual tho.
The Honda Accord is on the new list and the first list...
Hello, big fan! Love the channel. So for my choice of cars of the year 1993 I think it also should be on the list the 1993 VW CORRADO VR6 that car was beautiful and with that sound of the VR6 engine with the spoiler that went up when you it 45mph it was amazing!
Hoovie got it wrong regarding the Pontiac 6000 STE. The STE is an entirely different animal compared to the "regular" 6000. The 6000 STE was on the the Ten Best list for three years, 1983, 84 and 85. The 6000 STE had better power train, suspension, alloy wheels with Goodyear Eagle GT tires and an awesome optional suede pigskin interior. I owned a new 1984 6000 STE that was my favorite car and is the car I'd happily own again. I've had an Olds Ninety-Eight, a Cadillac, Fleetwood, a BMW, a Nissan truck, a Ford F150, an Equus, an Audi, a Lexus, two Rolls-Royce, two Volvos and seven Mercedes-Benz and the 6000 STE beat them all.
Tyler you forgot to mention the Honda S2000 which aged better than that generation booster. And the Honda accord which has made the top 10 list 38 times and 26 years in a row.
E46 M3. So nice!
I once saw an E46 M3 convertible,Laguna Seca blue that I fell in love with. So cool
Tyler the SRX Sti NEVER had round headlights. The Sti came to the USA in 2004 & had the square headlights & the more reliable 250 2.5 Liter Turbo 4 engine.
Subaru switched to the 250R engine in 2006 (along with the "hawkeye" headlights) and that's when the head gasket issues REALLY kicked in.
Again… GREAT CONTENT
Best car..is dependent on context. Are you talking about styling, realibity, speed, utility?
For me, it has 2 of those and that is the 92 MR2 T-top NA white.
2003 and 2018 both good years.
Pretty sure I saw every car on Tyler’s list at cars and coffee last weekend. Maybe a future video… ? The most cars and coffee approved 10 Best list.
Sentra SE-R's are still around Mexico if anybody is looking for one.
For April's list, the Probe C&D had in the 10 best was the Probe GT. I had a 94 Probe GT; it had 2.5L V6, 5 speed manual, and sport suspension. Great driving car, and good for me in my 20s. On Hoovie's list, the RSX they had for the 10 Best was the RSX Type S. K20 VTEC motor, 6 speed manual. I am happy to say many o of my car buying decisions have been cars that were 10 Best winners.
April had the best list !
Had a 1994 Chrysler Concorde.. Nice comfy ride, but the head gasket got me and after repair I traded it in on a MK3 Jetta Wolfsburg 5spd.
Even though the start of the new millennium had some great cars, I do have to agree with April. The 1990s in general was a major turning point for the auto industry. Like you mentioned, it was exiting of the Malaise era and the return to performance and aerodynamics, things that were lost in the 1970s and 1980s. The early 90s in particular started off the decade with a bang, especially from the Japanese. Cars such as the Acura NSX, fifth gen Toyota Celica, MKIII Supra, Mazda MX-5 Miata, third gen Mazda RX-7, Lexus LS400, third gen Toyota Camry, were revolutionary designs in an era where most automakers were still hanging on to the dated and forgettable box designs from the 80s, especially the domestic brands. Eventually they would come into their own such as the SN-95 Ford Mustang, third gen Chevy Camaro/Pontiac Firebird, Dodge Stealth/Mitsubishi 3000GT, fifth gen Corvette, etc. Most of the designs still hold up today, performance, not so much. Good for the time but laughable by today's standards.
Typril and Apler!
Went down a rabbit hole while watching this video. Turns out my father owned a car on the 1986 list and I currently own a car on the 2022 list! (and neither are camry or accords) I guess taste is hereditary!
Tyler should just start making up model numbers to see if anyone is paying attention.
“Yessss… the M23…as striking as the J99…”
Focus svt great sports car even in todays standard
I have an '02 Sonic Blue SVT. Have owned it for 19 years. Love it to death. Not a rattle, been reliable and cheap to run. Interior is mint and had the body refreshed 2 years ago. Looks brand new.
we have a 07 PTGT convert. sound amazing only 64000 miles
❤❤❤❤❤my friend had a chevette
That'll work.
The Boxster is the best Porsche ever... My 2000 S is amazing!!!
Ford Probe was supposedly the beta test to be the next Mustang with front wheel drive
Sorry Hoovie but you're Wrong about the Pontiac 6000. There ARE indeed some still on the road you can find them on used car sites. I see 1 every now and then. Granted most are not in the best of shape.
I owned 2 Caprices both 86 and loved them both. Yes the 305 even with a 4 barrel was a weak engine but they were still comfortable cruisers and very reliable. C4 Corvette still my favorite. 87 Gran National and Monte Carlo SS (I owned an 87) and IROC Camaro were some of the coolest cars of the 80s.
Intrepid not reliable? Yeah I agree had a 94 with the 3.5 and transmission went out before 30k miles along with the air compressor and various sensors.. But once those were all fixed it actually wasnt all that bad. 3.5 was peppy for the time it had room for the kids. Put about 130k miles before trading it in.
Of all the cars I've had, the '69 GTO was tops. Second was the '14 Caddy ATS and 3rd was ... '86 6000 STE. No Hoovie, mine was not junk. Wasn't quick, but drove and handled very well.
Tyler, you HAVE seen a Probe recently. There's that 12 cylinder version at the Car Wizards....
You get a 'probe' at the proctologist when he checks to see if you are a QUART LOW....
1988 is my first choice, followed by 2013.
Late 80's through the early 2000's one thing that sticks in my mind about 10 Best lists from C&D and M/T was that the vehicles fell in to two categories for the reason it made the list: Category 1 - it was a BMW or took BMW "money" to buy the car that made the list - when I looked at what made the list as a much younger man I always remarked "who can afford any of these cars?" the others (that one generally could afford fell in to the other category). Category 2 - while there was no "proof" you always knew in the back of your mind the manufacturer was paying (somehow) get on the list and the magazine would car-splain or come up with some "reason" why the car was groundbreaking or held some marvel of automotive engineering or technology. The notable exceptions were cars like Accord, Civic, Camry and a new for that year SUV thing.
Looking back on the lists you can see very clearly with 20/20 hindsight - lots of crap that didn't make the list and for good reason even before the car makers had only a year or two of production.
This was a great video, I really wished you had the time to delve deeply into each year, I’m sure it would’ve been a two hour video at least you made it very fun
1993 Ford Mustang GT Cobra should have been on the list. Had one brand new and it was the last year they made that styling of Mustang. Still one of my favorite cars of the time.
A 93 Cobra has been a desire of mine for years! It’s the ultimate Fox body in my opinion. Unfortunately for me the prices reflect that 😢
Totally agree. When heard 93, that was the first car I thought of, then the RX7.
Good one,I always liked the two tone especially the convertible
1983 VAUXHALL ASTRA GTE MKI The car that started my main car history I have had other makes but I keep going back.
In Europe, they rallied a prepared version of the Ford Focus RS - the road car was an absolute weapon, but you'd still go for the WRX instead
Tyler, you need to give some love to the Hondas for Hoovie's garage, I don't recall many (maybe any) of them being rescued by Wizard.
E36 came out in 1992 in the US 1990 in ROW. And the E30 convertible continued on into 1992 even after the E30 coupe and sedan ceased production.
I thought I would be team April because I love my Ford Probe GT so much, but Tyler's year was for sure better. I also have a 2004 Z06. But believe it or not, the Probe is one of my favorite cars that I own.
I had a coupe 02 Corvette that I put some work into. Almost a perfect bachelor car. Just enough tech, plenty of power,space for luggage,quick,handling ,good looking & good on gas if you make an effort. Did I mention cheap?
You might think the Focus was the "weakest" on that list, but let me tell you why it was great in comparison to its contemporaries in its class:
It was one of the first to offer telescoping steering column and height adjustable seats in the bottom of the barrel affordable compact car class.
And, they drove AWESOME. Ford came up with a new independent rear suspension with a unique geometry that made for an excellent handling front drive car. They called it the "control blade" independent rear suspension.
VW was so impressed with it that they literally poached the very engineer that created it for Ford so he could implement the same basic thing for VW's Mk5 generation Rabbit and Jetta.
Variations of the design are found across all sorts of different brands' vehicles nowadays. Ford is the originator of it, the Focus being the first one to get it.
The optional DOHC Zetec engines were no slouches either. The SVT version you pictured has a slick shifting close ratio Getrag 6 speed manual and epic sport seats too. The upgraded Zetec engine puts out 30 more hp than the stock version. When you're talking about a starting point of 140 hp, an extra 30 is pretty substantial.
I don't know how collectible the SVTs will be in the future, but I do occasionally find myself searching for one. I really like the first Gen Focus hatchbacks...
And I'm a VW guy!
Preach!
We need more car trek
There was a concept Chrysler came out with called the GT Cruiser, it was a lower, much more sporty looking car, I wanted that design to replace the PT.
The PT & the t birds were mainly for middle age woman trying to be cool.
“That Vtec Yo!” April is very hip…, and tuned in to popular culture. I like her. Congrats Hoovie on finding a good gal.
Could you imagine being rear ended by a Probe?!
What are you basing your opinion on? How do you not like the Integra TypeS or the CT4/5 Blackwing? Please tell us what makes these cars boring 🤔
He's soooo lucky. She's soooo right.
The Dodge Intrepid was a good car at the time when it first came out. The Cab forward design made it very roomy. With the 3.5 motor you had a reliable car. The 2.7 wasn't good and had oil sludge issues.
They sure went away quick,I don't think I've seen one in 20 yrs.
Everything goes away quick. I haven't seen an equivalent era Camry or Accord in forever.
I know I've turned the corner in life when I can truthfully tell you I worked on every single car from 1983...and am still wrenching on cars to make my daily bread.
Another good car was W bodies with 4T60 Hydramatic transmissions. 3.1 and 3.8 3800 only. Cutlass supreme, Gand Prix, Buick Regal, Chevy Lumina, Die hard and terribly underrated. Probably because they such a common domestic car of the 90s era. Rust took these cars out. The transmissions were probably the best transmissions ever made. Yes bold statement.
She is right the best car was the Buick Grand national and the RX7
2008 was without a doubt the best year for cars collectively
My half sisters mom had a Ford Probe and that car was actually a lot of fun she had the special edition model and it was a little sportier I mean it's still a Ford but it was cool
As for 2024, it appears that the struggle continues to be with parts supplies/capacity and affordability. The interest rates are high.
After your weekend of auction, what did you notice about prices? What vehicle surprised you the most?
1998 - 2002 best years for cars.
MR2
SUPRA
GTO
SKYLINE
RX-7
300ZX
I coild go on amd on.
As someone who bought bought the new 1993 Prelude as well as the 2002 WRX - solid choices on the years!
Hell of a lot better than the overpriced computer software obsessed nonsense they manufacture today.
that PT cruiser story was rough. RIP ptCruiser man.
1965 Pontiac's.....all were great.
My father worked for the Florida Attorney General's Beverage Department. He was in charge of moonshine raids in the panhandle. After always being beat in chases, the state bought GTO's - mostly 389 tripowers. They always caught the guys after that. It was such a different world back then.
Great time to be alive and not having to put up with today's NONSENSE.
@@darrellsaunders4267 Well sort of... Imagine if you could sneak up on the moonshiners silently in a 1200hp Tesla Plaid!
Please bring Nelix back now I started to worry about her
I thought the volvo logo was the male symbol for years, it is the same but it's actually representing steel.
Whatever year all the new gens came out and the challenger and camaro came back is the best year. It was so good they all still look the same since
Did anyone mention the old Supras? Mid 90s I guess,those things are worth alot.
Number 1 best from 1983 to 2024 is the 1995 Oldsmobile Aurora. 'Nuff said.
April you don't have to laugh at everything bro
Always in a good mood,bubbly,beautiful, flirty...I don't see the downside.. Yet!
I really wish I bought a 300 z turbo back in the day, it’s the best looking car…ever
I wish I had gotten a Supra turbo yrs ago,my God they're worth a bunch
A hooptie fleet is not complete without a project foxbody Mustang.🎉
Most of those sound to me like Manufacturers and car dealer. preference. But then, 15:36 I remember cars that we're made of what did they call it? METAL! Don't nee no stinkin' rooty poop zippy doodles...50's & 60's MUSCLE FOREVERRRR!!!
Siri and the Evo.
disagreements are not fighting! but if April cuffed you upside your head that's education not fighting! but it's still funny1 the Probe was built in Detroit as well as the Mazda Mx 6 and 626. assembly lines pic's show all three building at once.
Rob Dahm needs to be invited to GMYT and bring his RX 7..
The best cars of 2023 actually is quite good!