Xperia 1 II review part 2: A powerhouse camera for the detail obsessed
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For a company that produces the sensors used in many smartphones, in addition to their own revolutionary mirrorless and cinema camera, Sony has never produced a standout phone camera.The Xperia 1 II aims to change that, feeling sometimes more like a camera that can make calls than a phone with a camera.
The Xperia 1 II is firmly aimed at enthusiasts, enabling granular control for both still and videos. We found it could achieve incredible results, but only with some work. The iPhone 11 or Pixel 4 will deliver better images from a quick snapshot, but with some effort and care, the Xperia 1 II can take remarkable photos.
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I don't have anything else to say! You nailed it and gave justice to this phone. The very first time I have said to engadget. Thank you for being fair.
P.S., this 20fps shooting is growing on me. There is something beautiful in capturing moving subjects.
It's nice to see a review that understands why the phone is unique.
Photo of the cyclist guy is just fabulous, I also shoot panning photography with a smartphone in the night, and have so much fun that way.
How I wish I had this phone and the same scene situation to capture such one :((
@@troy5568 you don't need phone like that to do this. Seems like you not that knowledgeable after all
@@Mourners_Lament Yes you can, but what about the autofocus hit rate and those nice light trails that this phone is clearly capable of? I doubt any computational smartphone can do that consistently.
The quick AF was key to that sharp image. Any other phone on the market would struggle in the same situation.
@@Mourners_Lament as a photographer, I know what settings to adjust, but smartphones have limitations. I cannot do this on my 10 plus. Always blurry. The 20 fps capture AF is a game changer in a smartphone that is perfect for quick moving objects
This phone is so refreshing.
It's been a long time since a Sony smartphone was that good
True, it's a bigger deal than many realize!
@@SupreetMobile dumb sony Sheep
This is a great review. It's important to note that no one should be spending $1000 on a phone, just to upload photos on IG. This is what I think most reviewers fail to understand. Kudos to you for making the case as to why being a niche product isn't necessarily a bad thing.
By the way, the photos of the motorcycles... outstanding. I was shocked that the phone could pull that off.
The example image was the perfect way to show-off what the phone can do!
great review, the bicycle image is really hard to believe that it is coming out of a phone
only if the selfie camera is better , this would have been the best of the best
Selfie camera for me is already a good one for a flagship phone that's not really specializing on it.
GCAM port may improve it though. But speaking of front camera, at least it doesn't distract or take away some portion of my screen, which is great for the best multimedia experience.
I agree. If only the the front facing camera was better.
A 12MP with a ToF on on the front would be perfect
Hopefully the Mark III will improve this
@@troy5568 which is why I don't mind the bezel. A rather have a full screen with no notches or punch holes
@@troy5568 the bezel is already there , with such bezel you can have a perfect selfie cam , and maybe a wide angle selfie alongside with it , would be cool though
@@midoahmed3159 More cameras will ruin the clean look of the front. I don't like multiple eyes looking at me when using the phone, but to each his own. Besides, there will not be enough space to have more.
Other phones give photos they want.
Xperia lets you choose what you want.
Proud of you guys for doing the camera review justice and rightly spending a little more time with it to actually use it. I really was dead set on this phone but I'm getting the Sony a7III instead which is a way better investment. It's really a shame that such a great phone won't be more accessible to more people because of the price tag and a lack of carrier support. The Xperia 1 ii still gets my vote for phone of the year easily though.
Yes, except the A7III isn't as convenient and portable as this phone, and definitely doesn't have the insanely fast camera capturing and autofocusing capabilities of this phone. I'd say reserve the mirrorless for special events, because this phone is basically more than just a handy mini mirrorless camera in your tiny pocket, as it can even be a great mini professional film making camcorder, so it's essentially a two-in-one tool with quality reaching the passing standard even if not as good as the two gadgets.
As a Sony shooter who travels a lot, I can tell you that I carry my Alpha camera with me almost everywhere, but sometimes it's just NOT ready in the "shooting" position with the lens cap off, the "right lens" on, the right mode on, and so on. I missed so many shots because my camera was not ready throughout my travels through the years. The X1ii will never replace a real mirror-less camera or a DSLR for that matter, but it is the BEST companion for that investment!
@@troy5568 no I'm doing photography more as a hobby focused on going into business eventually. I'll get the iPhone 12 Pro for the convenience part as far as mobile photography. But I'm looking to get serious about my hobby and just see where it goes with time and dedication. And of course the A7III has the same autofocusing capabilities as the Xperia 1 ii. It's a real camera for crying out loud.😁
@@sidersproductions941 the A7 has the same eye auto focus, but it doesn't shoot at 20 frames per second. Only the $4500 A9 can do that. I've been a pro photographer for years and I can tell you that the X1ii is as close as a phone will ever get to a real mirrorleas camera (for now), mine arrived a few days ago and it's absolutely fantastic, I already took it out on a photography trip (we shot the comet Neowise) it did a fantastic job next to my Alpha camera. I'd never use the iPhone for anything serious. Unless you're just an Instagram photographer, but if that's what you do then you probably don't care at all about color accuracy and what not since you'll be ruining all your photos with their filters anyway!
This is probably the most complete phone out there, the display, the camera, the audio... and it is Sony!
sadly battery performance is great as expected ☹️
@@fkingnobody Nope it's not, it's doing great actually, compared to other phone who has bigger battery on paper.
60 hz tho only
Don’t forget the headphone jack
indeed, nothing even comes close. one problem i have is battery life, we really need 6000mah on this beast , hope next xperia will have it then it will be a perfect phone
Sony actually has the ONLY Pro phone on the market ! All other "pro" Phones arent, they are simply used for marketing...
Sonys Xperia 1II Pro is really a Pro device. Sony, when it comes to Camera, Tv and consoles, and in this case phones, doenst get the attention it deserves.
People only care about other things because the other selfish OEMs taught them to do so.
Like how they taught people to love unnaturally processed images from the Pixels and iPhones instead of teaching people how to properly edit photos by themselves, which is how it really should be anyway.
Maybe next year Sony will finally join the computational photography game, but I doubt they'd go the route that's against their science of true photography.
Are you a real person?
the LG V lines as well, but LG has a more "general audience" approach so it could appeal to both. LG and Sony are the only 2 to produce true Pro devices and not some "Pro" devices for the average consumers
This is not even the pro model wtf. The Pro model is called "Sony Xperia PRO". It is not a Mark II or anything.
@@xmaverickhunterkx i agree, but what i was trying to say is that it gives you more granular, professional oriented controls over the picture that you take. The Xperia PRO is just this with better 5g and a HDMI in (also the design is much more cooler)
Forget the rest, because Xperia 1" is the best!
xperia1 or xperia 1ii - which best
Finally a review on Xperia 1 Mark 2 that focuses on the right stuff and not just about camera in auto mode! Nice work Engadget, good to see you back! :)
The cyclists photo is magnificent...
blind sony sheep wow garbage phone
So am I the only one who noticed the audio wasn't matching the video?😂
finally someone noticed it besides me hahaha
@@christianvillarosa1020 yeah, i thought that it's my net problem or something else😅😅 because no one notice that thing
It is obvious.
HDR is not used all the time because the software has no idea what kind of photo you plan to take.
Photo Pro blocks HDR when you select burst mode 20fps, because image stacking is only for standing subject.
HDR easily messes with colours. Galaxy , Pixel and Iphone are the ones more distant to real scene, the ones with more HDR applied.
I have had this phone for about 3 weeks now and I absolutely love it. The camera system is fantastic. I love the degree of manual control it gives me which allows for a lot of creativity. It actually makes me want to go out and take pictures. No phone has ever made me feel that way before
Which country do u live?
@@gurmeetsingh7136 South Africa
At 9:02 - 9:06, I felt that. If we can draw an analogy between the cars and the phones, Sony would definitely be on the manual transmission. It requires some bit of skills to pull it off but its fun to drive shifting gears to your liking without the computers calculating what gear ratio you should be at what speed. It's the same here. You can rightfully claim the image you capture to that effect is really yours, not some AI who do it for you.
Wow, this is a great and articulate review that seems to GET who this product is for whilst is still very fair on its drawbacks. Amazing job guys and especially your Chris.
Wow! Those night bike images are just outstanding taken by a camera phone.
This photo (9:06) and this video (3:20) were just impossible before Xperia 1 II.
The Truly Brilliant Masterpiece of this Century, No matter What other brands out there, are offering/boasting 🤙🤘👍
I TOTALLY agree in everything. I bought it, and couldn't be more satisfied. I guess this is THE best smartphone overall. Thanks for your enlighting review.
This review was thoughtful, thorough, fair, and beautiful. Take a bow. Splendid work. ^_^
Your review is nerdy and you get emotional about the tech...
Love it! :)
Such a good point you made in the review.
I saw many said & showed that Xperia 1 ii having a relatively weak regular camera (app) quality, which discourages me and many ppl.
But you pointed out the advantages of having outstanding photo quality using Pro app and manual settings, which really bringing users back to "old" days that photographer take photos with their efforts of adjusting correct setting for different situation; whereas nowadays the automatic and computational post-edits of photo-taking is truly overwhelming. I think this phone kind of reminds me the joy of photography lies in user participation rather than a click of shutter.
You guys are now giving xperia chance to shine.
I really hope that people start appreciating Xperia again.
Want this camera. Hope sony keeps pushing this. Would love to see Xperia 1 III with built in ND filters and optional higher bit rates.
I think I can settle for clip on ND and polarized filters for now. Those photos would look great.
And better video stabilization 😍
The cyclist shot is very artsy, it's like a campaign ad for a product. Heck, I might buy what he could be selling.
Are you going to do a (short) review of how this can be a companion to your A-series cameras? and what it might have in common with Xperia Pro?
We're open to it! I mostly shoot Fuji, so an A-series companion piece might be a job for our boy Chris Schodt.
I'm watching this on my Sony Xperia 1 II bought since last Halloween of last year and I must say, SUPER WORTH IT!
The high speed shutter is cool but I can't remember the last time I've needed that , and needing to break out a manual mode Everytime you want to get a competitive shot, alot of the times a photo can't wait for that ...
Exactly, an average user does not even know how to tweak the pro mode. Sony should have given the auto mode some software tricks like pixels.
Best review of this phone on the tube so far!
Had the XZ Premium, skipped the Xperia 1, got an S10 plus now, might have to sell it and get the mk 2, those photos look amazing. Everything else about it is decent as well, can't ask for more really.
Actually the photo pro app has hdr, just turn it on in the settings. Also it's not available while using continuous shooting.
A very good review. Those two photos of the cyclist and the bike are insane!
One tiny remark: at 05:22 I believe you wanted to demonstrate the animal eye AF in the photography pro app. It didn't work because the focus was set to center instead of wide.
Looking forward to mine next week to start making content and of course, take advantage of that 20 fps capture AF!!!!
It does have auto hdr. It's in the pro app
Finally. Someone gets it!
Why is the audio not lipsynced? I mean out of sync, anyone noticed that?🙄
Hmm. Sound doesn’t sync for this video?
The best review for this machine. Conglatulations 🇧🇷
Fun facts about Sony phones
Sony's phones are the first in everything.... First with:
BLUETOOTH was a Sony phone
LDAC technology (Hi-Res Bluetooth audio connectivity)
WATER RESISTANT phone was a Sony phone
4K HDR video RECORDING phone was Sony
First (phone) portable device to have 3.5mm headphone jack!
(Forty years ago, on July 1, 1979, Sony's Walkman)
to have 3D Creator technology was Sony
with Eye A.F. at 20fps for professional portraits!!
with Heat Suppression technology was introduced
(ur phone dosent loose battery while playing games) INNOVATION!!
with SUPER slow motion recording at 960fps
w/ a 4k SCREEN RESOLUTION was Sony phone!!
And for those who didn't know...
IPhone cameras have Sony sensors :) up to this day!
CONGRATS to Sony for the new ❤️ Xperia 1 II ❤️ crushes the competition hand's down!
I hope that type of eye auto focus will come to other manufacturers. That is some amazing tech to have in your pocket.
Highly unlikely. Eye auto focus is Sony's bread and butter in the photography world, there are others out there that do it, but they are no where near as accurate and fast!
the most important thing at this time is the camera resolution which is not present in this phone at all and the battery is very small and the phone gets hot while making a movie and the hands get burnt while playing games.
My favourite brand ❤❤Sony❤❤
2020| Best Camera Phone 📸
Best Display- 4k OLED HDR
That 2k 120fps slow motion video of the cyclist is probably the best slow motion I’ve seen, other flagship phones slow motion is so bad , it’s grainy and doesn’t look good at all, because they sacrifice quality for making it slower which results in super grainy footage that doesn’t look good at all
can't wait for this release!!! this will be next upgrade
Will the camera pro app be available on Xperia 1 and 5 via software update?
At 4:45 so you can adjust the background blur intensity and focus point using Google Photos? No other reviews mention about this. Anyone with 1 II can confirm this feature?
Yep, that's exactly what I was doing!
Nokia Lumia’s had this 6 years ago, good to see it. I can confirm it works on portrait shots taken with the standard camera app on the X1ii.
It looks like a light field tech.
if you have trouble in brightsunlight shooting photos its simple.there ARE more controls than the ISO you know. CHANGE THE SHUTTER ANGLE duuuuh!
More and more people have advanced cameras. This is the future. Ppl are on their phones all the time. Plenty to play around with camera settings. Click and shoot is the past.
My daily phone no regret it awesome to me.
Maybe Sony and Google should partner up. Sony can make the Hardware and Google can make the software
Is this review done with the latest firmware/software with the new night mode?
Heads up, there is a sync issue with the audio. It's pretty out of sync at around 3:41 for me.
I hope it will come to Indian market..
does it have face unlock, album widget and smart unlock as previous XZ family?
This was a grate review but If I am not mistaken they forgot to mention the HDMI in that phone has that is use mainly to use as a screen for your camera and review footage but can be use for other stuff to and is a pretty unique feature.
This particular model has no HDMI port. Sony will be releasing the Xperia Pro in the near future and that's the one with HDMI.
Thanks for the detailed camera review! 👍🏽
Is the audio out of sync on this video?
yes it is haha
I thought my phone is acting up when the audio was out of sync. Until I read the comments then I feel safe 😂
that dog at 5.36 got me auuuwwww
I liked your burst shots but when will someone do astrophotography with that phone😓. Nice review btw
7:08 - I highly disagree. I have the Xperia 1 II, and the selfie camera is the best out of any other smartphone I've ever had! Some people are just nitpicky with certain things. When it comes to photos looking natural, the Xperia 1 II is better than my Xperia XZ Premium. Even Lewis from the Unbox Therapy channel liked the front camera, he said that the camera background in a Sony phone is finally paying off, and I agree; with the Xperia 1 II, in the background of the front camera, you literally get next to no grain at all.
the audio isn't in sync?
yes it's out of sync
Is it just me or is the Audio out of sync? 🤔
I like it
Me too 😊 I'm waiting to buy the phone next week!
Finally something that might take my beloved Nokia 808 out of my hands.
What's up with the video being off-sync?
Will this be available in the Philippines? I wish it'll be available soon.
You can buy it online through Expansys but I think VAT will apply.
Bro make comparison between 1 mark 2 vs dslr
I'm looking forward to the xperia 5 ii
yes, you know what i mean
I think Sony missed the mark with this one. It seems to be aimed at photographers. But the thing is anybody who cares about those pro features are most likely going to have a proper Mirrorless or DSL are anyway. I shoot with Sony cameras professionally and if I’m going to take the time to dial in settings I’m going to do it on my actually camera instead. What would have been more useful is integrated support between the phone and alpha cameras. Things like being able to use it as an external monitor, quick RAW file transfer or a screen that is Super colour accurate and actually good for editing on Would have been better. I was so excited by this phone but will now be skipping it for the note 20
What is the tripod you are using?
i think is a manfrotto pixi evo 2
Part 3 coming?
Bicycle photo is super
I have seen many android phones but this phone is different.
when is the new pixel phone due to come out?
4a soon. 5 not soon
It has HDR and DRO
Would have been better if supported gcam
It eventually will once the RAW support is out, as that will basically enable the full camera2 api on this phone, and then you'll basically get the bedt of both worlds.
And remember this precious thing always: *More options is always better.*
This phone is unreal!!🔥💞!
No other phone can even come closer.The others are so gimmicky toys & wannabe.They are just marketing a few useless or inferior features.😂😂😂.
Sony delivers a lot more useful features!***🔥😃
I'm buying one.
A true classy phone.
Thank you SONY.
SONY ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🇱🇰
For some reason your lips movement didn't match with the audio
When a pro take pictures with a phone.. Hard to believe its from a phone..i
Why Google can't make an app for this
You'll need a powerful hardware which is the sensor itself to pull this off. Google is already doing burst shots but its not powerful enough to match Sony's af speed and accuracy.
The naming killed the phone series...
I don't know who's on charge on naming those phones, it just confuse the customer...
What's wrong with xperia 1 mk 2?
So basically you OK with iPhone 11 pro max or Huawei p40 pro plus, but not with "one mark 2",
People who buy alpha never complain about alpha a7 mark 2 or mark 3 or rx100 mark 1 or m2 or m3
Quite jarring if the vanilla camera app and the pro camera app gives different results
Of course, the standard camera app is designed to adjust all parameters automatically and then a minor image enhancing to make it look better, but not too much to make it look too artificial, while Photo Pro app is designed to work like an Alpha camera, which means greater array of control over the images produced, for users to edit later.
It's the same as Sony's real mirrorless camera. It has auto mode and manual mode as well. In auto mode, sometimes u get great results in one-click, but not reliable for certain scenes like shooting fast objects where you need to control the shutter speed and ISO.
the sound AND THE VIDEO DOSENT SYNC
Phone review minus the camera 10, Camera review for that phone 12 minutes. Looking forward to the 14 minute review on gaming and media consumption.
Focus peaking will come in the Mk III 😂 typical for any camera manufacturer
DOES NOT SYNC
I wshe one bay now xperia 1 all 💸🇧🇩
the camera options on this phone are extraordinary, but it doesn't worth the price. I can get a A6400 for lesser money with more or less same feature set except for the 20 FPS.
I have the A6400 + this phone. It's the best companion for the A6400 actually. I travel a lot, and the A6400 is not always ready to shoot right away, sometimes I need to swap the lens, change the mode, re-configure my parameters, etc. I've missed many shots because I didn't have my camera ready in the shooting position throughout my travels. The X1ii will never replace my A6400, but will be a GREAT companion to it (with a very similar and familiar interface).
A6400 does not have very expensive 4K screen, battery is about 1/3 of capacity , it does not record 4K HDR 10bit.
Also just the Snapdragon 865 costs $160.
A6400 is just A6000 with newer sensor and better AF.
You are getting a phone with 4k display, headphone jack and cameras with sports tech on this one with 16mm, 24 and 70 mm lens under that price. It looks pretty loaded for $1200 compared to others who are into notches, punch holes, wrap around displays, foldables and 100x zoom lens and resolutions defying physics that is really useless and relies too much software processing on images.
Is the mark ii susceptible to hackers in any way?
Yes, if you live in the Watch dogs world
Who else thought they had a serious lag with their bluetooth earbuds/headphones? 😁
This is one of the largest 12mp sensors around, last I checked the same one as the S20/+ main camera. Not sure if I would call this unimpressive, considering the larger sensors hasn't been performing too well and often loses to an iphone with a standard ol' 12mp.
That's simply because most other large sensors also use very high megapixel count for pixel binning, which is okay, but still no better than traditional single bayer sensors with no issues with color fringing and demosaicing artifacts.
Besides, I wouldn't call the iPhone's 12MP images anything extraordinary. If anything, it produces similar images to a 2-year old Pixel 2.
For Sony, they apply their own science in photography to their smartphones and insist on all the fancy HDR highlight and shadow boosting algorithms and keep images as naturally accurate as what the sensors really captured.
Even RAW files from the iPhones and Pixels aren't purely RAW, as the HDR stacking happens all the time, as if there's no way to turn it off.
It looks nice at first glance, but a processed image is much harder to edit because all other information were already lost in the post processing, while even Sony's JPEGs are still well-editable because of minimal manipulation to the images. Flexibility is the main strength of this phone, as the user can achieve the same exact look of images as the Pixels and iPhones by a proper manual editing of photos, and sometimes can be even better than those two as well.
GCAM port is pretty much available on most Android phones nowadays, and Sony phones are no exception, so if you're really into the instant image processing from the Pixels, then you're not missing out anything at all. If anything, you're actually getting more options, because you can get the same results on this phone as on the Pixel and iPhone, but you can't get the same results on this phone on those two, and remembering the all-time quote: *More options is always better.*
@@troy5568 Yeah, most of those who give negative comments to xperia probably don't understand real photography, maybe they just want a quick, bright and colorful... It's a HDR and color filter. I can also get you a photo like on the iphone by adding a color filter and finishing..
Sorry bad english
If you want a camera with good UI/UX, dont pick Sony. Its that simple :D
This phone did a good job but other will say "FoR tHis pRiCE I wILl rAthER BUy aN
iPhOne"
TH-cam ordered TH-camrs to use the word "niche" and they're all using it like parrots