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  • HI GUYS ! how exciting ! today is another Allison's day ! I am just so in love with her series ! and this one especially because I am a little crazy with white tee shirt and own a lot. but it has been a hunt chase for years to understand that the cut and the fabric will make a huge difference. now I know what kind fits me ! I hope this video will help you understand it too !
    thank you to our 2 guests Hannah Miller ( @hansmils) and Ilana Miller (@ilana_miller) for trying on all these tees !!
    follow Allison on IG @allisonbornstein6
    xx
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    3:22
    Madewell Whisper Cotton Crew Tee $20
    www.shopbop.co...
    3:49
    `Madewell Whisper Cotton Crew Tee
    4:43
    Anine Bing Bra
    5:18
    Hanes x Karla The Crew Tee $30
    www.xkarla.com...
    5:34
    Hanes x Karla The Crew Tee
    6:36
    And Other Stories Classic Crewneck Tee $29
    www.stories.co...
    7:01
    And Other Stories Classic Crewneck Tee
    8:10
    And Other Stories Crewneck Linen Tee $49
    www.stories.co...
    8:17
    And Other Stories Crewneck Linen Tee
    9:25
    Everlane Cotton Box-Cut Tee $16
    www.everlane.c...
    9:41
    Everlane Cotton Box-Cut Tee
    10:46
    Amo Classic Tee $95
    amodenim.com/c...
    11:07
    Amo Classic Tee
    11:54
    Zara Basic Lyocell T-Shirt $19.90
    12:07
    Zara Basic Lyocell T-Shirt
    12:57
    LEFT, HANNAH
    Everlane Cotton Box-Cut Tee
    RIGHT, ILANA
    Amo Classic Tee
    13:26
    `Madewell Whisper Cotton Crew Tee
    13:39
    Hanes x Karla The Crew Tee
    13:56
    And Other Stories Classic Crewneck Te
    14:17
    And Other Stories Crewneck Linen Tee
    14:39
    Everlane Cotton Box-Cut Tee
    14:57
    Amo Classic Tee
    15:12
    Zara Basic Lyocell T-Shirt

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  • @haribellam1543
    @haribellam1543 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    17 minutes of *slightly* different white tees might be a snooze fest for a lot of people but it's my personal heaven on earth. i never wanted it to end

    • @sarahshoxx
      @sarahshoxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol

    • @pepperoniseas
      @pepperoniseas 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hari Bellam same

    • @Camiliconsz
      @Camiliconsz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me 2 lol

    • @sessa97101
      @sessa97101 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same! I have so many white shirts/tops

    • @LLulu145
      @LLulu145 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same.

  • @Kate__123
    @Kate__123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of my favorite TH-cam videos! I learned so much

  • @everyday.poh.tay.toe.
    @everyday.poh.tay.toe. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i loved this. a focus on a single fit and you get so much information.

  • @mega1ove
    @mega1ove 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Love me some Allison! This video was super helpful. Liked that the video was extremely on trend yet universal. I also really appreciated that there were two body types represented.

  • @Seriouslygorgeous
    @Seriouslygorgeous 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! A white tee is always a fabulous style. You can never have enough.

  • @ddojitos
    @ddojitos 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I am so excited for every upload! This was really helpful, I always struggle with white tees but I feel I got a better idea of what to look for :)

  • @mayyasleptsova
    @mayyasleptsova 5 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I feel like the video could benefit from more variety of necklines (like V-neck or deep scoop neck etc) and cuts. Most of the t-shirts were boxy, which suited Hannah, however, I think more fitted silhouette would look great on Ilana. I felt like most of the t-shirts were too big for her and didn't look good.

    • @chaimmaddux5363
      @chaimmaddux5363 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry to be off topic but does anybody know a way to get back into an Instagram account..?
      I was dumb lost the login password. I would love any help you can give me!

    • @aidanjavier5714
      @aidanjavier5714 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Chaim Maddux instablaster =)

  • @mariaeva3385
    @mariaeva3385 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    This would be so nice with trousers and shoes, especially: like finding the perfect kitten heel or boot

  • @melissapelletier1335
    @melissapelletier1335 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always LOVE watching these videos and how relatable they are! Allison and Violets please keep making more!! ❤️❤️

  • @mathilde7871
    @mathilde7871 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    The two cute ladies sounds like Paris Hilton when they talk especially when they say Yeah.

    • @aybee2136
      @aybee2136 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I had exactly the same association 😂 and I would take it as a compliment!

    • @esikazemese
      @esikazemese 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@aybee2136 For me it's ANNOYING.

    • @cicir423
      @cicir423 ปีที่แล้ว

      I grew up in Chicago (actually also went to Indiana U!) but they sound like Chicago girls to me! Brings back memories ❤

  • @Evitta22
    @Evitta22 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the best video from Allison!!! So helpful!! Please please do more like this! How to choose good basics like jeans, blazers or little black dress 😊

  • @caroline26071
    @caroline26071 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    OMG I looooove each episode with Allison. You should have the whole periodic separate section with Allison

  • @yeongwinni
    @yeongwinni 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for including different body types! Appreciate your styling and violette’s expanded family. Keep it ip

  • @jlrrr6
    @jlrrr6 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the 2nd top with a tight fitting really suited Hannah! Looks really good I was surprised when you said you didn't like it on her!

  • @berniecamacho3681
    @berniecamacho3681 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always look forward to these wardrobe series! :) Always so helpful!

  • @bundazeffa
    @bundazeffa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love this video! I love Allison's series and this one is my favorite--it helped me so much! :)

  • @corinne123100
    @corinne123100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Yesss! I was wondering when the next upload was coming 🎉

  • @chiarasatelier1515
    @chiarasatelier1515 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    OMG I love this video! So helpful to see different body types and how the t-shirt fits differently!

  • @evelynheng1044
    @evelynheng1044 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a good video because I have always loved the white t-shirt look but can never find the perfect one! Great guide!

  • @alicereynolds414
    @alicereynolds414 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved seeing the difference on the two gals. Would love to see the same idea w/ jeans.

  • @mwmsjuly19
    @mwmsjuly19 5 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    The vocal fry *burns* GAAAAAHHHHHH

    • @sharroon7574
      @sharroon7574 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ?

    • @nopasanada5498
      @nopasanada5498 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@sharroon7574 The way both of the girls speak is called "vocal fry." The way their voices go down at the end and fry sssssssss

    • @carolannf
      @carolannf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      M Wms I’ve never heard of vocal fry! I’m Aussie and just thought when I heard VF it was just their American accent 😂

  • @ThaoNguyen-hl6mb
    @ThaoNguyen-hl6mb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite T-Shirt fit is from Majestic Filatures. My bust size is 36C, and I find their cotton/cashmere version super comfortable and flattering. The funny thing is I can fit into all their sizes from 1 to 3 and each has different vibe.

    • @alikat8221
      @alikat8221 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thao, T. P, Nguyen Majestic tees are amazing (although they always look super weird in white, IMO). I always size up to a 2 😊

  • @ExploringCanadaInfo
    @ExploringCanadaInfo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video, one of the things I am most grateful for is that you compared 🍏 to 🍎 & didn’t introduce a lot of other neck lines or sleeve lengths. I was expecting you to mention which white T-shirt you were wearing. Which one were you wearing?

  • @Sabrina-qg5tk
    @Sabrina-qg5tk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    The vocal fry of these two is killing me. Do people really talk this way?

    • @thefieldofsilver
      @thefieldofsilver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      It makes them sound dumb, even though they aren't.

    • @ShashainItaly
      @ShashainItaly 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Yeah , it hurts me too !!!!!!!

    • @lionsdontlie
      @lionsdontlie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      There's nothing wrong with vocal fry. Get over it.

    • @LSSYLondon
      @LSSYLondon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My aunt gave my cousin milk every day as a way to make her sound with more fry and raspy in general - she wanted her to basically sound like a heavy smoker which is considered fashionable by the upper class west coast crowd. I think it originated in Orange county in the 90's. Every generation has a weird speech choice.

    • @Sabrina-qg5tk
      @Sabrina-qg5tk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@lionsdontlie And there's nothing wrong with me hating it. So you get over it.

  • @cdb88
    @cdb88 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite was the 1st Madewell t-shirt. Also I think she did a great job talking about a sensitive topic because comparing two body types side by side can make someone feel insecure but I think it's important to show!

  • @maytelopez6073
    @maytelopez6073 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite was the linen one!

  • @purplegypsylady777
    @purplegypsylady777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both are so beautiful in their own way. The skinnier sister looks like the singer LIGHTS to me

  • @aliciajames7615
    @aliciajames7615 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much I love your segment on this channel, I wish you did more.

  • @pepperoniseas
    @pepperoniseas 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I live overseas and have no means to try all of the white tshirt options to find the perfect one so thank you for this!! Happy no v-necks or other necklines were included because only a crewneck has *that* boyish lived in look we want and Violette knows it

  • @nikkieditinc
    @nikkieditinc 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this!!! Everyone’s struggle! The white t. Can we do this on taller bodies too?

  • @aiai-j7i
    @aiai-j7i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Quack! Quack! Quack! Croak! Croak! Croak! That is all I got from this video. WHY, please tell me why American women do this nasal, vocal fry nonsense??! If someone naturally happened to talk like that, I would not be mean about it, but it is so contrived. It simply cannot be good for vocal chords. The horror of having to listen to that all day!!

  • @gerlindelang
    @gerlindelang 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you for giving advice for the larger-chested! we love fashion, too

  • @sangeetha36167
    @sangeetha36167 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    what brand and color bra is Hanna wearing? looks seamless under tees.

    • @sweetpeace5
      @sweetpeace5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      san Mun Natori (probably the “feathers” version) Natori makes fantastic bras.

  • @shareatoothbrush
    @shareatoothbrush 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved this video and concept!

  • @collagecult
    @collagecult 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a very similar body type to Hannah which is really hard body type to find flattering t-shirts for, so I found this very helpful. I will be going to Everlane immediately lol

  • @rosa_ferstl1766
    @rosa_ferstl1766 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much! I've been struggeling as well to find the perfect white tee and with everlane this is not only an affordable but also an ethical option!

  • @sassymonday7813
    @sassymonday7813 ปีที่แล้ว

    i think the madewell fits better to her shape . especially if your busted type ❤

  • @chrsied
    @chrsied 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love Everlane! I'm all for ethical fashion.

  • @tamarindodetrespepas
    @tamarindodetrespepas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i was missing so much allison!!! hahaha

  • @lm2646
    @lm2646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this...super helpful!
    *I kept hearing someone snort throughout the vid😂

  • @stephanieoteyza3523
    @stephanieoteyza3523 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for posting this! It is super hard to find a nice white tee as a staple in your closet, I went through some but none that I absolutely love.

  • @pastyblobpastyblob1251
    @pastyblobpastyblob1251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    You two seem lovely but TOO MUCH GLOTTAL FRY!!! Please go easy on your voice ..... xx

    • @jessicabarnhill6718
      @jessicabarnhill6718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pastyblob Pastyblob seriously so annoying right - I don’t really see the fab style sense either

    • @misseleanorg
      @misseleanorg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not damaging to the voice 🤷‍♂️

    • @pastyblobpastyblob1251
      @pastyblobpastyblob1251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s annoying ....

    • @misseleanorg
      @misseleanorg 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Certainly winding up many people here but it doesn't damage the voice, it's people's choice how they use their voice.

  • @tashc7978
    @tashc7978 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loooooove Allison 😍!!

  • @vanessacastaneda9753
    @vanessacastaneda9753 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this video! Keep them coming. :)

  • @iplaywithfoodttmohammed99
    @iplaywithfoodttmohammed99 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I wear Hanes men's v-necks in S. I'm a 32DD, in a crew cut I feel choked.

    • @sarahshoxx
      @sarahshoxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow! I bet it looks cute! 😊

  • @mirannda
    @mirannda 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Are you AASSSKinnnGG or are YOUUU tEELllIIINNNG me? My god the uptalk and vocal fry. This has to stop.

    • @christinarelf4040
      @christinarelf4040 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I've really learned something today: the phrase 'vocal fry'!! So many girls do this in the UK now. I always feel as though it must hurt!

    • @patriciacasalrodriguez
      @patriciacasalrodriguez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@christinarelf4040 Me too, never heard about it before.

    • @i.e.presents638
      @i.e.presents638 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Christina Relf Ask a speech therapist about it, so not good for you. It used to a be a sign of dehydration and maladaptive speech but now it’s trend. The worst kind. I have friends in several public facing fields who have lost their jobs over it. Friends tell friends they need speech therapy, kindly and privately.

    • @kashandblue
      @kashandblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      oh sheesh. the only thing that needs to stop is you feeling stressed about it! people can talk literally however they want

  • @itsokhesjamaican
    @itsokhesjamaican 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All these commenters need to read Wordslut by Amanda Montell to learn about how hating vocal fry and uptalk is because society hates things perceived as “feminine” and is inherently sexist :). These girls seem great!

  • @therebex23
    @therebex23 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love to have heard about taller ladies with these shirts. I get the impression these two are on the shorter side and us taller ladies tend to be smaller in the bust which makes it even harder to find the white tshirt that works because you often have to go for a men's tshirt in a size small or medium but they are not "cut" for a woman/pear shape.

    • @itsyagirlvicku
      @itsyagirlvicku 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would have loved to see some more variety in body shapes in general! I mean, I can tell they have a different build, but in the spectrum of all shapes and sizes, they're pretty similar.

  • @Hajiyeh
    @Hajiyeh 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was the bra that Hannah was wearing? Can’t make out the name!

  • @msanetchen3912
    @msanetchen3912 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    All of the t-shirts are soooo unflattering for Hannah an the tuck emphasizes the short torso and makes her waist appear very wide. No, girl, stick to your own choices - the vest (cami?) you were wearing at the beginning looks beautiful on you!

    • @soccerqueen4life2
      @soccerqueen4life2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ms Anetchen agreed, I think she’d look amazing g in some sort of v-neck, doesn’t have to be super deep one, I just feel it would balance her silhouette out more

  • @youtimeful
    @youtimeful 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such an helpful video!

  • @annasophiekodesova1
    @annasophiekodesova1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE

  • @123ilovechoccy
    @123ilovechoccy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the thorough review of white tees and the different body shapes. Are the whiny baby voices real? 🤦🏽‍♀️
    Felt a bit like being busty was viewed as a negative ☹️

  • @missy6361
    @missy6361 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have the Zara tee! Other than the fit it's bad quality. Tore the first time I washed it

    • @pastyblobpastyblob1251
      @pastyblobpastyblob1251 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      missy6361 have just commented the exact same thing. It’s so pronounced. Are you a speechie? I am. These girls need to go easy on their voices

  • @carmenssita2005
    @carmenssita2005 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    can anyone tell what's the song from the generic?I can't find it :(

  • @sarchstar
    @sarchstar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Woah I learned so much! Great vid

  • @notesfrombethany
    @notesfrombethany 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love that you showed both body types!

    • @nb8389
      @nb8389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Honestly, I can't see a huge difference in terms of their body type, except their bra size 🤔

    • @thefieldofsilver
      @thefieldofsilver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They showed curvy with hips and short waist, and slim, sporty with longer waist. It would have been nice to have a plus sized model too.

  • @nohadarwish1124
    @nohadarwish1124 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    “Like” “like” “like”

  • @sharonhansen2935
    @sharonhansen2935 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Allison, can you tell us about your amazing snake print jacket please?

  • @nvr9597
    @nvr9597 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    super cute video

  • @LayLowize
    @LayLowize 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    it helps also when you are short and wearing a round neck tee...to wear your hair in a ponytail...and if you are someone who has big breasts it is also important to find the perfect bra like a seamless one. always stand up straight...it's all about the poise ladies! chin up, shoulder straight....

    • @sweetpeace5
      @sweetpeace5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eli Gee thanks, Eli

  • @agnev111
    @agnev111 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Most dissapointing on the channel. Will just start skipping. Boring, too eleborated, and she doesn't have ppl skill. Also, I don't learn much style wise ...

    • @UponTheStarz
      @UponTheStarz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agne V How can something be boring but elaborated at the same time? How about you just skip if its not entertaining for you and avoid leaving such a stupid comment

  • @bluebeanbaby
    @bluebeanbaby 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeeeaahhhhhh

  • @carolannf
    @carolannf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A shame there weren’t other neck styles. I’m a pear shape and v neck and scooped neck are my best necklines.

  • @laurenelaw8747
    @laurenelaw8747 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is really helpful!

  • @KimMayroze
    @KimMayroze 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this series and find it fun and helpful, however, I also feel it's a little too hyper in the speed of talking and in the camera movement or editing.

  • @Metallgeit
    @Metallgeit 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my opinion not everyone, myself included, suits a crewneck tee. I do not think it is best on people with a bigger cheast or with broader shoulders. It can look boxy or a little bit masculine... I prefer a v-neck on myself for that reason.

    • @sweetpeace5
      @sweetpeace5 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hannah Brataas 100% agree she def needed to be in a looser slouchy, vneck..would’ve been👍🏼these are no bueno

  • @BisayainHolland
    @BisayainHolland ปีที่แล้ว

    Their voices seems like I'm listening to Miley C. ..

  • @LayLowize
    @LayLowize 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a real white tee is cheap and is not expensive. The same goes for Levi's original 501. Even though there are good brands out there who makes good white t's. James Pearse, Uniqlo, Fruit of the loom, CK...it's nonsense that they have to be expensive to be comfortable.

  • @Niemsn
    @Niemsn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the difference? To me they all look the same. Just girls with white shirts.

  • @istanbulfashionaddic
    @istanbulfashionaddic 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    zara actually has really good basic t-shirts for best price and quality I do not know why you picked long sheer t-shirts from Zara for 2 petite girls. I buy shorter versions you can clearly see in store and online that long tshirts are even long for 1,77 cm tall models in the pictures. I am a petite girl myself never go for long t-shirts. and amo for 90 USD too much for a white t-shirt.

  • @pt5244
    @pt5244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Valley accent

  • @patriziademeneghi7135
    @patriziademeneghi7135 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i suggest the woman counts the number of times she/they say "like"...it is insane and not in a good way .

  • @biagiottilu2577
    @biagiottilu2577 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loooove it

  • @aybee2136
    @aybee2136 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks! It was very helpful! Could you maybe do a video for a long sleeve as well? 😅

  • @Solid_Snack
    @Solid_Snack 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    "OMG YEEEEAAHHHHHHHHHHHH"
    SPEAK YOUR AGE

  • @mantronixtube
    @mantronixtube 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    t-shirt

  • @themodernhippie9736
    @themodernhippie9736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    V neck would have been more flattering on a larger chest girl

  • @lavinder11
    @lavinder11 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this is violette's style, but words popping up on screen is very distracting and unnecessary.

  • @LauraMcCullough83
    @LauraMcCullough83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vocal Fry.... 🤢

  • @lindsay3793
    @lindsay3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    They have the most contrived, inauthentic voices. Bunch of try=hards.

  • @Jen-zk9se
    @Jen-zk9se 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The way these two speak is superrrrrrrrrrr annoyinnnnnnnnng

  • @mai567
    @mai567 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to like her videos. But this is a total fail. How can you something looks good when it screams awful?

  • @sarahshoxx
    @sarahshoxx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍 I am open minded.
    I have a saying for this kind of so called style. "Trying too hard" Lol white t-shirts. I have more style for sure!! 😉 95$ for a white T! Lol! NO tucking.

  • @katiamanfredi7465
    @katiamanfredi7465 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is that accent???

    • @lindsay3793
      @lindsay3793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Their accent is from Poser Island, where the vapid watch Kardashians on repeat and aim to rid their minds of substance.

    • @charlotteh2177
      @charlotteh2177 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lindsay lmao

  • @fwebster6226
    @fwebster6226 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please treat your dog as a treasured family member rather than as an accessory?

    • @trixi1608
      @trixi1608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The dog seems treasured and happy to me.

  • @collagecult
    @collagecult 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fashion is for a certain kind of woman: rich

    • @soccerqueen4life2
      @soccerqueen4life2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rebecca Florida not true

    • @aiai-j7i
      @aiai-j7i 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fashion maybe, but having great personal style is not dependent on being rich.