Indian Roadmaster Dark Horse 116 with Passenger Review
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- Hello everyone out there! My wife was under the weather so our teammate Honey Badger joined me in making the Indian Roadmaster Dark Horse passenger review as requested!
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Specs 2020 Indian Road Master Dark Horse
MSRP: $28999.00
Engine
Engine Type Thunder Stroke
Displacement 116 cu in
Bore 4.063" (103.2mm)
Stroke 4.449" (113mm)Compression Ratio 11:1
Engine Torque Peak: 126 ft-lb (168 Nm)Engine Torque (rpm) Peak: 2,900 RPM
Fuel System Closed loop fuel injection / 54 mm bore
Drivetrain
Drive/Driven Clutch Wet, Multi-Plate
Transmission Gear Drive Wet Clutch
Primary Drive Gear Drive Wet Clutch
Final Drive Belt
Suspension
Front Fork Tube Diameter: 46 mm
Front Suspension Telescopic Fork
Rear Suspension Single Shock w/ Air adjust
Front Travel (in./cm.) 4.7 in (119 mm)Rear Travel (in./cm.) 4.5 in (114 mm)
Brakes
Front braking system Dual / 300 mm Floating Rotor / 4 Piston Caliper
Rear braking system Single / 300 mm Floating Rotor / 2 Piston Caliper
Wheels & Tires
Front Wheel Cast 19 in x 3.5 in
Rear Wheel Cast 16 in x 5 in
Front Tire Dunlop® American Elite 130/60B19 61H
Rear Tire Dunlop® Elite 3 Multi-Compound 180/60R16 80H
Dimensions
Overall Height 58.7 in (1,491 mm)
Overall Length 102.1 in (2,593.3 mm)
Overall Width 39.4 in (1,000 mm)
Seat Height 26.5 in (673 mm)
Ground Clearance 5.1 in (130 mm)
Rake/trail 25° / 5.9 in (150 mm)
Wheelbase 65.7 in (1668 mm)
Lean Angle, Left (deg.) 31°
Lean Angle, Right (deg.) 31°
Capacities
Fuel Capacity 5.5 gal (20.8 L)
Weights
Weight Empty Tank: 868 lbs (394 kg) | Full of Fuel: 900 lbs (408 kg)
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Love those Indian motorcycles!
They just get better and better!
This is the 1st review I've seen with passenger and I love that. I'm looking to get a "comfort" ride for the wife because she said so, and just enhances my decision to go with the roadmaster
G'day from Perth Western Australia. perfect review I love that you did it two up and got passanger opinion as well. I Realy enjoy your channel because I'm unable to ride the bikes you do, so by watching you it's almost like riding it myself. Keep up the great work
Thanks for the support!
G'day from Melbourne Australia. Thanks again for doing a passenger review as well. I'm hopping to take possession of a Road Master later in the year and a 2 up review wss great to see, no one else has done that. Great job.
Great information on the video from you and your passenger. Thanks for taking us along for the ride I really enjoyed it.
Thanks for the support and You're very welcome :)
Great review, very informative. Thanks
Good day sir. Bought this same bike today indian motorcycle of OKC. GREAT PEOPLE, GREAT BUYING EXPERIENCE!!!!!
Those folks really are good peeps. Bought two for myself there and another teammate has gotten one there as well. Scott and the gang are the best in town.
Just took out the RM DH and loved it. I went in interested in the challenger but man think the RM is it
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Love your vids, you have a voice for radio.. lol
Quelle idée merveilleuse de produire une review avec une passagère. Si on veut acheter ce model c’est bien parce qu’on veut que notre passagère soit confortable. Grâce à votre vidéo je sais maintenant à quoi m’en tenir. Merci :)))). Désolé pour le commentaire en français ;)
Thanks for this review. I really appreciate that you get the passenger perspective. Right now I'm deciding in between the challenger and roadmaster darkhorse. I come from the sport bike world and like the perfirmance. I'm looking for a bike for the long haul but still want some punch. Can you give me some feedback between the two bikes both from rider and passenger perspective please? Thanks.
should have left the display on bright for the viewers while describing the functions on the unit.
You can always take off the tour pack, and have a Chieftain.
Great bike just purchased one
Ride it safe!
I had already made up my mind to pull the trigger on this bike, but it's good to know it'll be all that I expect it to be.
When shall you receive it?
Nice one....
Happy New Year!
Happy new year to you as well!
Thank you kindly for the video.
At 58, It's been 45 years since I was on a machine. Tried looking at H.D. and all I get is the run around. Called a dealer in Sturgis, and so help me they knew nothing about the H.D.'s other than how to fill out the paper work. At my age, I realize I'll need two. A touring bike for myself, and a trike for momma & myself. Looking to do a few Iron Butt rides, and looking for something to fit my frame & weight (6'3". @ 250 pds). Thought H.D. had it, then started hearing about all the troubles they were having. So, my attention has shifted to Indian.
I realize at my age, I'll need to take a safety course to get my license, which does not bother me. As it's a something you can do here in Texas. Yet, I cannot seem to get someone to get me honest thoughts on this Roadmaster. After all this time, would be a good first bike, when one considers my age, and the weight of the bike. I'm looking at getting a Roadmaster trike for momma & myself as she's not able to ride behind me on two wheels. My round trip to work, is right at 80 miles. Dark in the mornings, on back country roads, so lighting on the front end, is a must. At this point money is not an issue, which leads me to the last point.
After riding this bike, after setting back after these few weeks rethinking, remembering the ride, would you buy this as a first time bike, for someone my age? Anyone have good, honest thoughts on this question?
Not holding you to any thing. Just looking for someone with a little more experience to give me their thoughts on this being a first bike?
Thank you kindly for the video. Honest thoughts, about an honest ride. I do wonder if, on a longer ride would heat coming off that motor be an issue? As well as it not having the RDRS system on it as H.D. does. Yet, that RDRS system is offset by someone knowing how to drive a stick-shift, LOL. Anyway, thank you for a good video. ScottishxPride, Texas.
I would have to say it might be something to get a bike that is a little bit smaller first, maybe the Vintage or something in that class to then move up to the RoadMaster if it has been a while. The RoadMaster's weight is a bit daunting at in some cases 954lbs. It has no reverse gear to aid in backing and such. The Vintage comes in around 100lbs less than that. There are even some lighter machines with the Chieftain and such as well which also come in 100 lbs less that you might use to rebuild the strength and such and work to the Master. Longer rides there are cylinder deactivation tricks and such on these as well, but mostly for idling at stop lights. Heat is not that bad just make sure the lower vents are open to let the cooler air cycle through. But I have not been broiled as I had with my past Harley motorcycles and I will say yet, but I have rode these on 90+ degree days and then some for a few hours at a time and never seem bothered.
Which model was the Black bike front left at the start of the video, sort of looks like a chief but has the couch seat and a lesser front coul/ faring? It looks awesome!!
Very nice review. One quick question that has nothing to do with the bike, but with your video equipment instead : how can the pictures be so stable while I see your camera is attached to your helmet ??? Any stabilizator ? Thanks again !
This setup is just a GoPro Hero 7 with its image stabilizing on. My other setup is a Sony Action Cam that uses optical stabilization built into camera.
Did you ever test ride the HD Ultra limited for comparison? I'm torn between the two.
Did you try out the heating and cooling seats?
Never noticed any vibration on mine going 45 mph in 6th although I do not do that much since I own it and do not ride it like a goof. That motor has tons of torque and does not lug in any gear.
Merci pour cet essai sympathique. Je vais aller sur une Chieftain je pense :)
I would get a Challenger but there is no Indian dealership in the Ottawa-Gatineau area.
Ok, I have a question for your passengers. If a tour pack was installed onto the Challenger, and they have a choice between it and a RM, which one would they pick for a week long trip?
I have owned BMW Honda HD if you what a smoth and air free ride buy the biggest widshld out there yes you have to look though it and it's not as Kool to look at but your passenger will love it. 😉 ride safe.
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Could you please share what com system you used in your helmet to do the review?
So it is not a com system that we use. It is a field recorder. The Tascam DR-05X or Sony UX560 coupled with a purple panda microphone in the helmet. Now to talk to each other so we can ask the questions and respond we use a Cardo PackTalk Bold/Slim. But the actual audio captures were field recorders in the pockets that were uploaded into the video.
Heated back rest for the passenger?
Great review. I think I might be trading my Vision for a Roadmaster - visiting the dealership tomorrow, we’ll see what happens.
If you have not already try the Challenger too.
Rabid Hedgehog got to check them all out this weekend and pulled the trigger; dealer is arranging for a Black Pearl Roadmaster (apparently that color is hard to find).
Shout out for Cosmo’s Indian in Trevose, PA: Tom DeFalco (sales / owner?) spent a lot time with me talking about how ride, what I like and let me ride his personal Roadmaster - great shopping experience.
how do they shake compared to harleys? And 1-10 what would you rate this bike overall? Will it do its intended job for long trips?
So if it's Twin Cam model HDs this is far superior in vibe control. To M8 they are still slightly better but it comes from a better frame and counterbalancing. Over all for the long journeys this bike would be a solid 8.75 for long trips. Might need a smidge more seat cushion and a bit more length and it would be near perfect.
@@RabidHedgehog Thank you. I'm getting one soon. :)
How did you like the white color? Sales guy said they’re hard to keep clean.
I have worked with several white ones and they are no harder to clean per se it just requires a special cleaner that does not shine or wax it up
Can you tell me about the heat the motor produces ?
Heat is negligible at best in this weather. Higher heats in the 80s and higher you can feel a bit, but that rear cylinder deactivation does help out. It is no more warmer than the HD M8s.
I live in a hot state and I've heard heat containment is a bit of an issue with this engine. Have you heard this as well?
Oklahoma is a very hot state and I have not. I know my FTR can get crispy but when I had a Thunderstroke I will say never felt issue.
Would the engine heat be a major concern during the summer months?
I have a 2019 Chieftain Limited, I have already been in heat of over 100 degrees F and nothing from the engine bay concerns me. Now with the Roadmaster there is a bit of heat that can catch you if you forget to pop open the lowers vents. If forgotten they'll give you a great reminder. Other than that no issues. Earlier engines did have more heat than this current set.
Rabid Hedgehog Great. Thanks for the reply. I’m looking at the Roadmaster and was worried how the heat would be during the hot summer days. One more question: if you had a choice between a new Chieftain Limited and a Roadmaster, would you still choose the Chieftain again or would you go with the Roadmaster?
Would you recommend this bike for a newbie biker.?
If you can handle weights and such without worry then yes as it's not a power thing on this but a bulk thing. However, if you sit on it and move it around and then think about those properties translated into motion, or backing up in a slightly slick place for that matter, it might be more helpful to start with a smaller Light Touring model like a Suzuki C90T or something of its size and then work up to this 900 pounder.
Could see the screen right up until he dimmed it. 🙄
does this bike have 'hill assist?
It does not.
Hey Sasquatch, I don't think your foot will fit between the heal and toe shifter...
Interestingly enough it does, just barely, but it does.
I do not understand the Dark Horse with CHROME
Draggin floorboards in a mild corner? No engine heat in winter - Try a 95-degree summer day? 940-lbs...! WTF...!!! Is that with rider, passenger, and gear...??? What about some of the more practical issues a new owner would be interested in? Like how often it needs routine service, and what costs to expect? With fewer dealers farther apart, these are a concern. I've heard good things about Indian, vs Harley, but would like to know more about an owner's long-term experience of both. Test-riding a brand new bike is typically going to be a more positive than negative experience, so what practical info do we really get...??? You mentioned some of the new features, but didn't really evaluate how well each worked, especially compared to the competition...
Such a large bike is the antithesis of what motorcycling is for me. A small car would get you better handling, more comfort, (HVAC and a roof that can't be beat), more room and carrying capacity, and might even out-accelerate such a heavy machine, especially when loaded with passenger and gear...
Would prefer a much lighter and more nimble motorcycle ride than a 'lumbering V-twin', as I enjoy blasting through sweeping corners in the backroads and on mountain tours. For me my BMW R1150-RS has everything I'm looking for. It's several hundred lbs. lighter; corners on rails and accelerates much faster; has ABS and power assisted brakes that stop as fast as you can hang on; as it inspires full confidence when cornering at high speeds; has large removable BMW side cases; has adjustable windscreen, bar grips, and seat height for optimal ergonomics; and is perfectly comfortable whether on short day trips or multi 900-km per day adventures. I've ridden at 140-km per hour for hours on end, and it feels like this is the speed these bikes were designed to run at all day. (With the German Autobahns in their back yard, this is likely true...) Yet my valves rarely need any adjustment at 10,000-mile service intervals.
Much of the BMW's weight savings is in alloy castings and forgings, and better metallurgy, engineering, and manufacturing techniques, to provide superior performance in a much lighter machine. Seems the V-Twin manufacturers stick to 100+ year-old designs, and incorporate 'upgrades' like liquid cooling, fuel injection, and 4-valve heads, only when meeting environmental requirements force them. I've put over 165,000-km on my two 2002 BMW R-1150-RS, and have never had any mechanical issues other than routine maintenance which is super easy for me to do myself.
Trying to navigate a lumbering Indian on the sort of trips I enjoy would not be my idea of a good time...
Lol k bmw guy.
Like all touring bikes made today this one has so much electronic junk I would never use. Hate paying for something I don't need or want.
I would not say all touring bikes, the HD Electra Glide Standard removes most of the frills. However, I was once opposed to all the electrics and nice things until a friend bought a GoldWing that was equipped with XM weather and allowed us to ride alongside some pretty nasty storms and around them without getting hit by a single drop. That was something to behold. Sometimes when you get it you suddenly cannot figure out why you never went without it. Think cell phones. Or heck the internet.
I have a Goldwing and I don't even turn on the radio. Never have used the weather button either. I usually leave the house to get away from the phone. I have it with me, but it is in my pocket so I can't hear it if it rings. I use the internet to watch what I want, since TV is useless. TV was a lot better when we could only get 3 channels. Now I have over 100 channels and there is nothing worth watching.
@@CraigSmith568 I know this is an old post, but that's what I keep saying. Why the heck do you want all that electronic crap. Just need something comfortable, smooth and good power. That's why I like the Kawasaki Voyager. Also cost 13-15k less.