I mean.. since anything goes in Multiverse.. there should be one with you who is not Starborn.. but Dragonborn.. and by visiting the temples you get this power call shout, and the first shout.. instead of making everyone float, it just pushes them.. really.. really hard.. :P
I've beat the game 3 times now and I haven't gotten a new start yet. It's always me greeted by Sarah saying I look familiar and Vasco scans me and tells me I've been missing since the mine
Kind of wish there was a version where you find someone from the original universe that also went into the unity, Sara and Andreja as partners ‘apparently’ do so would’ve been cool if you could find them or even if you can travel with them every time just like the emissary and hunter seemed to do
I like how meta the last one is. Usually most players do a good run through, but then on subsequent play throughs of a game, they tend to try evil route options to see what happens
@@danilonden3782 I want universe where all the bugs that Bethesda for once fixed before release disappeared to, and observe the chaos of all laws of universe being broken, gravity fluctuating, etc.
If you’ve asked Cora what she wanted to be when she grows up, she wanted to be a space explorer. The fact she step through to hunt down a version of your character that left Sam to die is honestly heartbreaking.
I didn’t realize leaving Sam at the lodge to save my #1 homie Barrett would result in my #2 homie dying and his daughter hating me eternally…. I debated for 10 minutes on reloading the save and changing my decision but ultimately decided to stick with what I went with naturally before I knew anything. Still I was so heartbroken when I came back to the lodge and Sam was dead and Cora was mad as heck at me
It would also be fun if there was one similar to the first one, but when you arrive at the lodge the alternate you already left, and the entire playtrough would be you chasing yourself and seeing all the decisions the alternate you made while keeping aways one step ahead of you, until the end where you would find out what happens when you are not the first one to complete the armillary.
There is one like that technically where ur evil self kills constellation and you have to end up fighting yourself at the end because you are the hunter
Actually... I am gonna be honest, This is my current NG+1 universe. I haven't seen anyone talk about it yet, which surprises me. It is just so simple and so unique, that maybe the subtle differences are what have made people skip past it thinking it might be the same as their original...? I can only imagine that they have many more multiverse plots in store for us.
The thing is. I think armillary gets left behind. Why? Well if u fill your ship with companions and go to unity but refuse and ho back. U can talk to your companions. They all met unity and refused. Implying that if u agree you dissapear obviously. But after u refuse armillary is still on the ship. My point is that armillart and an empty ship probably gets left behind
@thespirit7408 thats my point. What if u go though and they dont. They dont get teleported into empty space. So technically based off that you leave behind both ship at armillary
It's so crazy to me how the voiced protagonist fits the face. When I met myself at the Unity, I was thinking, "I can't believe the game knows how my character would sound like."
@@olsonbrandon91 exactly I was like damn my guy doesn’t sound anything like the way he looks but there’s almost always a dialogue option for that so todd new it would be an issue
Love how the Evil You one even has your evil self holding the most broken OP weapon in the game. Those MAG weapons are “aim in the general direction and win” guns.
i found it interesting that’s the same gun that sarah would usually give me when i would skip the main quest in NG+, so it’s a cool detail cos they were the first version of “you” to arrive at constellation so sarah gave it to them instead of you
@@CFronTV The weapon she gives is random though. I’ve gotten a combat knife, arc wielder, katana, and pistol. You’re lucky if you got that gun lol I usually have to find random pirates until they drop one.
@@GriffinatorOriginal "Welcome to the team. Here's a basic ass bitch combat knife. Good luck fighting in space with this dummy." *Realizes you entered the Douchebag Universe*
Nah the Big Bang shotgun is the most OP weapon i picked up, it does 200ish impact damage and 500 energy, i literally destroyed the Hunter when he was chasing me through New Atlantis cause it only took a few shots to make him retreat. Big Bang > MagShit
I'm on ng+2 and i have gotten the normal version every time. I didn't even know you could get different versions. honestly it's not worth all the trouble of getting the artifacts every time just to get a chance to see a small interaction be different, so thank you very much for compiling them all here.
You could probably save before entering the unity and keep reloading the save until you get one that you want. I kind of want to do that to get myself as a crew member.
@@NJM0324you can get alternate universes after you’ve used the unity, before you travel to Jemison. It’s worked for me a few times, but I’m trying to find a faster way than having to fly to Jemison and travel to the lodge each time.
So I’ve just been loading and reloading for near 3 hours. I saw 2 ‘alt’ universes in that time. (This isn’t including the 10 NG+ play throughs I did without seeing 1 alt universe). On my last NG+ I was loading and reloading to get the perfect armour roll for my proper play through, but while doing that I noticed something. When the game reloads after the credits and you’re on the ship, press start and if your mission says “Go to the Lodge (MAST district)” I was in a ‘normal’ universe everytime (this includes my 10 NG+ runs). If it just says “Go to the Lodge” you’re in a ‘Alt’ universe. Now admittedly, it was only twice I saw the difference in the wording of the mission but it was an alt universe each time (first one was with evil me/you, second time was when Andreja takes over). Again, it might not be an indicator it’s just something I noticed and wanted to share. So it seems (seems being the operative word) you can tell that you’re in an ‘alt’ universe before getting to the lodge, albeit which one isn’t clear until you get to the Lodge.
@@matthewearp3642 I am on first run and about to sacrifice Andreja over Sam Coe (he is currently with me on that Collector ship, named Pavard... Pavlov something like that). Cause true love is the one we lost.
I was thinking throughout this, I know it won't ever happen, but a universe where you meet one of your other characters you created (if you create one) would honestly be funny
Would be, but something tells me part of the reason Bethesda didn’t do that was to avoid butchering that character’s personality, or the way they sound, however you imagined them. But I guess you could say that maybe they’re in one of the Universes we’re exploring, but they’re just not where we are at the same time. I’d like to imagine that
@@Lapinnoowhy didn’t anyone think of that? That’d be cool if Bethesda made an update or DLC that adds on to the New Game +, and it can detect features of your male character, and in another universe, make a female counterpart with your other features.
On my new game plus Todd Howard showed up to the constellation dressed as wonder woman and gave each member a signed copy of the latest Skyrim remastered
@Emigdiosback it was sam for me first then barret apparently it's always who you liked the most so I'm going to try and make it the lucky lu pilot this time sound
The Cora one always hurts the most, my first play through I had the choice to let Sam or Sarah die, I unknowingly let Sam die and when I saw Cora’s reaction to it, and her “I HATE YOU” to me when I tried to console her was heartbreaking, I couldn’t do it. Had to let Sarah die.
Loner you never fails to make me laugh, it's the whole batman voice I WORK ALONE!" Just kills me every time😂 alao the last one is such a poke at people doing evil runs
I think it would be interesting if you ran into one of the Universes where the Hunter razed it or like the UC had one of the Relics so a horde of Starborn tried to get it and the Universe is a hell hole.
@@MalcrowAlogoran He broke Rules of Acquisition number 21: Never place friendship above profit. And I like to think his VA was leaning a bit on Quark for this bit.
The fact that there are multiple "main story" skips in NG+ is so cool. It looks like a lot of fun to encounter them and I bet more things like it could be added in the future either through DLC or even mods.
All I wanted was the first one. It took me more than 24 hours and reloading a save multiple times to get it. Now I’m just enjoying the game with myself. I got every other beginning except the "evil you" version. After learning Scott Porter (Heimdall from God Of War) is your voice, I wished we got a voiced protagonist like in Fallout 4. I was part of the apparent minority of people who liked having a voiced protagonist in a Bethesda game.
Can you play the original MQ campaign normally in that universe or its the skipped version of NG+? Also what happens when you change your appearance does the NPC change too?
I dont want to spoil people but it changes based on the mission "a high price to pay", so who you had the highest affinity with, but in ng+ your affinity probably is equal so its random
With AI and all the 250,000 lines of recorded dialog it would be great if modders can make their own twist on these. I'd love to see one where you meet your child. You find out Sarah or Andreja backed out of the unity because they were feeling sick. They had been sick but didn't tell you. So on a hunch they might be pregnant they back out. Turns out they were and they raise your child before both going into the unity. Could set up a number of interesting story arcs, with the child looking for you for guidance or revenge for not being there.
This is definitely an RPG. I just finished the game and I don't have enough time to see all the cool NG+ differences but this is super cool how they did the templating for this game in multiple playthroughs. Although I'd imagine having to grind again for all your personal items will turn off for many people who sunk 30+ hours into the NG0.
I dont see a reason for NG+, u cant customize new ship (so it sucks by default), you still can join all factions in 1 playthru: joining Vanguard will not cut u from Crimson Fleet, and Rangers will not cut u from Ruyjin, and outcome does not shape the world in current playthru. Romanceable characters almost all the same. Plus game does not have Schematics from Fallout 76, so you wont able to rebuild some of ur settlement interior in few clicks.
Yea I thought about this for a while I was playing ng+ after leaving behind everything I've done. The new ship is so cool looking though I think having that ship made me not care about losing my stuff. After the first ng+ getting to the next universe is actually way faster so you could ng+5 probably in a few hours if you rush it.
I wonder what happens if you have kid stuff on the universe where you can have yourself on your crew. Does your parents just believe there is only one? Or do they treat you like a sibling to their kid lol.
Im on NG+11 and i only got the Walter one so far and it was bugged. I would kinda be down to do a playthrough with the first one, hangout with myself lol
well here's hoping that shattered space, whenever it comes out, adds more unique ones, I'd like serious ones, but completely off the wall loopy ones in addition would be awesome, plus maybe a little more rng in how everyone turns outs rather than just constellation
Imagine they can add another ten or so in every DLC. Keep everyone guessing for years, especially if the chance of some of them coming up is like one in ten thousand, or a hundred thousand, urban myth material.
Yeah they should of made them a full companion instead of just a crew member. Honestly the few lines they gave player character are some of the best in the game.
alternate you actually has some nice dialogue if you ask some questions (my char has alien experiment, so no parents) but my alternative had parents and really wholesome dialogue too
Would have been cool if in the one where you meet yourself you can choose to either interfere with his journey and recruit him as a companion or just leave and let him go through the main quest like you originality did but have you the player be watching from the shadows keeping an eye on yourself maybe approach yourself and just not reveal your identity and offer little criptic hints here and there and during the story quest where one of constellations members would die you can step in and fight the hunter and prevent the death from happening.
I've done NG+ over a dozen times and I always reject a side and I've never got one of these alternate starts. Every time it was regular Constellation with Sarah Morgan waiting for me.
i think its about 1% chance (or something just as low) to see an alternate. Save in unity, then enter and see what you get. Took me 17 tries to see one of those and it was bugged.
@@kzar99 oh i know about that method but to be honest i have no desire to save scum a result. Thanks for the reply as it will help others who are trying to trigger them.
Got the universe where your doppelganger killed everyone and then asked hadn't you ever gotten tired of all their talking and just wanted to shoot them? I was initially pissed at the other me, then remembered the 6th or 7th time through Unity where I killed Vladimir and Lin just to see what would happen.
I think it would be interesting if eldritch monsters, new aliens or entire planets were changed up and make it interesting when you go into the breach.
wow these are awesome, im curious how the main campaign plays out in these universes. im also wondering if its possible to save before starting a ng+ then loading that save to see if you get one of these univserses.
Has anyone else had random encounters in their original play through that never happened again? Eg. legendary ships, rogue ai, ships with all dead crew and aliens onboard? Or is it just a bug and I should keep re rolling my ng+. Also thanks for putting this compilation together. Saved a lot of time 👍
most of those are actually in fixed locations that you "discover" the first time you warp to that system. Outside of the Lodge/Constellation/temple locations, nothing actually changes going into NG+ runs.
Am I seeing things, or is "Normal You" showing up in all the endings? Are they just permanently unlocked once you reach their universe for the first time?
The Andreja one make you think. If she had not been caught by Sarah trying to communicate with as a spy she would have killed them all. Sarah catching her and her act of kindness completely changed Andreja. Maybe that was the guilt Andreja carried about not feeling like a full member. She remembered how close she came to killing them all. That said I'm glad she was the one I let die in my universe, she was the least good of the good group. She says some really sweet stuff to Sarah if she survives on that quest though, about her giving her a second chance.
Is it normal to not be able to save or access inventory in these universes? Seems to be a problem with me so i just end up loading a old save and going back through the unity... The no save i could live with, but not being able to access my inventory to equip anything is a pain
@@xGarbettI figure this bug happens when you're save scumming, and then trying to open your inventory too soon. I had this bug once too.... you have to wait until the quest pops up on the screen before attempting to open your inventory. And to everyone reading this, don't deny it, we all know you save scummed to try and get a good roll on the Starborn armor 😂😂😂😂 Note: I haven't had any inventory bugs like this since figuring this out.
Thanks for doing this. I just got to NG+5 and i have yet to see a variant. In the one with Vasco alone, who was standing in the room? I think the last one with Evil You also had what looked to be your character in normal clothes reading a book... what is with that? Also, what did the note say in the "Kids" version?
There should have been an option to go back to your universe through the unity, I have 130 hours into my playthrough there's no way in hell I'm starting a new game plus. Maybe after mod support, but hopefully somebody makes a mod to just jump through universes. Was such a stupid decision to force new game plus on people, I should be able to keep the stuff I spent 100s of hours collecting on top of getting the new ship and suit.
Imagine if you could actually talk to that plant. Also the parallel universe with kids at the lodge, it would be hilarious to see kids run new Atlantis and the crimson fleet! 😂. Reminded me of those kids in fallout that made their own society.
I think it would of been funny if on the 10 universe, you wake up bound on a cart where it literally just does the Skyrim opening but before you would get your head chopped off, you wake up and you see that Legate Rikus taking Sarah place. Like the whole Universe is just Skyrim and Fallout Characters lol.
11:22 “You killed my father! I I don’t care how many versions of you I have to kill“ Immediately follows up with…. “You’re a different version? Oh well you can go“ I could’ve been lying to her. So much for vengeance.
I’ve made 7 jumps into the unity and haven’t experienced any alternate universes. Am I doing something wrong? I’m doing straight runs without any side missions.
jeeze the thing is you'd gotta speed run each universe if you wanna get to see all the differences but this is crazy, i also hear constellation isnt the only thing with its differences tho, but who wants to spend 300 hours each universe lol
They should’ve made a universe where everyone swapped backgrounds. Like have Sarah been a former member of the crimson fleet and andraja been a member of the church of the enlightened
That last one is literally the representation of all of us when we start a New Game on an RPG and decide to go Full Evil/Renegade after being kind people so many times.
Why am I getting the same universe every time over and over, I’m on my 5th ng+ and I keep getting the typical “talk to Sarah” universe, and that’s it do I have to change my playthrough style and be more hostile? I’m lost here, any help would be appreciated from anyone
I'm currently level 118 and on NG+11, and still haven't gotten an "alternate" universe. I noticed there were very slight variations of dialog such as Matteo saying "which is clearly 100% fabricated" vs "which is clearly a lie". But that's it so far... Like I don't want to force it with console commands, but it's getting to the point now where I'm like wtaf... I've alternated between choosing the Hunter and Emissary, killing both of them, romancing different companions, not using any companions at all (unless forced), being "bad"/"good", hell even "chaotic neutral", being greedy, a thief/merc for hire... all to no avail.
Gotta make one where you walk in and everyone in Constellation is dressed in Skyrim outfits. Sarah's in Imperial Legion armor, Sam's dressed as a Stormcloak, Andreja is dressed as a Dark Brotherhood assassin, and Barrett is in stereotypical Dragonborn garb.
Here's a question... Is the lodge the only place in the game impacted by alternate universe scenarios? Has anyone found anything different anywhere else? We know that a lot of times, the lodge scenario in an alternate universe is the same. But what if something else has changed elsewhere in the game. Like different NPCs in different roles? Or the progress of certain historical events being different so going through the Vanguard's historical sequence might tell a slightly different story? ? The lodge makes sense as the most obvious place to put a few alternative events, but it seems to me that in all those thousand worlds, there's bound to be something present on at least one that wasn't there before. There is after all that reference made about a thousand trips through the Unity... Kind of sus that they would specifically mention that number and there being over 1000 planets to visit. The "over" part is likely taking the main planets tied to the storylines, but the others? Is it possible that one different planer in each journey through a playthrough holds something unique and special, and the only way that anyone can truly experience the entire game is if they find it in each subsequent NG+ playthrough?
Besides dialogue options telling npcs you've met them before or something along those lines no, for instance during the crimson fleet quest line depending on who you side with during the previous ng+ cycle at the end when after you pick a side and either kill or get the boss to stand down your character will mention siding with (faction boss) in the past and didn't like the outcome besides that all the missions are exactly the same and don't have different outcomes don't know if it's the same if you chose to replay the main story though
@@kijiisemo4876 I had considered that myself too. The answer is yes, I generally got into a rhythm for muscle-memory sake to speed the process up and so yes I played the "same way". I do wonder if variations in choices and actions alter the possibility of varied endings or if it is literally a dice roll each time NG+ starts.
i have romance both Sara and Adreja in 2 playthroughs and the only difference in dialogue i noticed (in my 3rd), is with Sara. She says something along these lines "i am not the sara you knew" when you first mentioned you knew her. This only occurs in full playthrough (no skipping main story option)
Well this is the oddest thing i came up on. Im a few missions away and i dident know about this, so you can actually have a talking version of yourself 🤣🤣 something they never should've took out personally. But i think this was a clever way to use the starborn multiverse for NG+
What is your favourite universe in starfield?
Evil you. I love how starfield made so many different ng+ universes
The first one, but I can't wait until they add more of these.
Second
I mean.. since anything goes in Multiverse.. there should be one with you who is not Starborn.. but Dragonborn.. and by visiting the temples you get this power call shout, and the first shout.. instead of making everyone float, it just pushes them.. really.. really hard.. :P
I've beat the game 3 times now and I haven't gotten a new start yet. It's always me greeted by Sarah saying I look familiar and Vasco scans me and tells me I've been missing since the mine
Would have been great if there was a universe where everyone in Constellation was a robot and Vasco was the sole human member.
Bro
Haha that would have been gold. I woulda stayed just for that
They are planning on adding updates to everything so I bet that could be one
Kind of wish there was a version where you find someone from the original universe that also went into the unity, Sara and Andreja as partners ‘apparently’ do so would’ve been cool if you could find them or even if you can travel with them every time just like the emissary and hunter seemed to do
🤯
I like how meta the last one is. Usually most players do a good run through, but then on subsequent play throughs of a game, they tend to try evil route options to see what happens
I'm literally doing my evil go through now 😂. 13 playthroughs of being good, it was due for a change
Constellation would be too glitchey if Tod was in charge.
evil you is so strong he got a “no essentials” mod early
I hit that variant and decided I'd do my evil run there, it seemed like a thematically good place.
I mean ... even on my first run there were mire times then not that I wanted to space all the members of Constellation except Vasco.
Should’ve made a reality where the Hunter was Todd Howard and another where he’s in charge of Constellation
With 16 times the artifacts, and 4 times the temples.
Would be funny if all 240 temples where in the same ng+ also definitely tod as a npc companion
That would be amazing, and where there are intentional bugs where he says:"it just works" or "with almost 16x the fidelity"
@@danilonden3782 I want universe where all the bugs that Bethesda for once fixed before release disappeared to, and observe the chaos of all laws of universe being broken, gravity fluctuating, etc.
I’d blast him straight in his grill 🖤 reload and do it again
If you’ve asked Cora what she wanted to be when she grows up, she wanted to be a space explorer. The fact she step through to hunt down a version of your character that left Sam to die is honestly heartbreaking.
yeah when i heard she had an alt start, that was not what i was expecting.
I didn’t realize leaving Sam at the lodge to save my #1 homie Barrett would result in my #2 homie dying and his daughter hating me eternally…. I debated for 10 minutes on reloading the save and changing my decision but ultimately decided to stick with what I went with naturally before I knew anything. Still I was so heartbroken when I came back to the lodge and Sam was dead and Cora was mad as heck at me
I tried making things right with Cora after Sam died to try and prevent a revenge tour
It would also be fun if there was one similar to the first one, but when you arrive at the lodge the alternate you already left, and the entire playtrough would be you chasing yourself and seeing all the decisions the alternate you made while keeping aways one step ahead of you, until the end where you would find out what happens when you are not the first one to complete the armillary.
@thespirit7408 Bethesda, HIRE THIS GUY IMMEDIATELY
There is one like that technically where ur evil self kills constellation and you have to end up fighting yourself at the end because you are the hunter
Actually... I am gonna be honest, This is my current NG+1 universe. I haven't seen anyone talk about it yet, which surprises me. It is just so simple and so unique, that maybe the subtle differences are what have made people skip past it thinking it might be the same as their original...? I can only imagine that they have many more multiverse plots in store for us.
The thing is. I think armillary gets left behind. Why? Well if u fill your ship with companions and go to unity but refuse and ho back. U can talk to your companions. They all met unity and refused. Implying that if u agree you dissapear obviously. But after u refuse armillary is still on the ship.
My point is that armillart and an empty ship probably gets left behind
@thespirit7408 thats my point. What if u go though and they dont. They dont get teleported into empty space. So technically based off that you leave behind both ship at armillary
It's so crazy to me how the voiced protagonist fits the face. When I met myself at the Unity, I was thinking, "I can't believe the game knows how my character would sound like."
I think you just got lucky then buddy because isn't it the same voice actor for all of them?
@@olsonbrandon91 exactly I was like damn my guy doesn’t sound anything like the way he looks but there’s almost always a dialogue option for that so todd new it would be an issue
i know that same feeling... really need to get that first event where i meet the other me so i can get them in my crew
generic white guy voice
I think they just get generic sounding voices that will fit most facial profiles
Love how the Evil You one even has your evil self holding the most broken OP weapon in the game. Those MAG weapons are “aim in the general direction and win” guns.
I love the magpulse and the magshear, the magstorm is just overkill
i found it interesting that’s the same gun that sarah would usually give me when i would skip the main quest in NG+, so it’s a cool detail cos they were the first version of “you” to arrive at constellation so sarah gave it to them instead of you
@@CFronTV The weapon she gives is random though. I’ve gotten a combat knife, arc wielder, katana, and pistol. You’re lucky if you got that gun lol I usually have to find random pirates until they drop one.
@@GriffinatorOriginal "Welcome to the team. Here's a basic ass bitch combat knife. Good luck fighting in space with this dummy."
*Realizes you entered the Douchebag Universe*
Nah the Big Bang shotgun is the most OP weapon i picked up, it does 200ish impact damage and 500 energy, i literally destroyed the Hunter when he was chasing me through New Atlantis cause it only took a few shots to make him retreat. Big Bang > MagShit
I'm on ng+2 and i have gotten the normal version every time. I didn't even know you could get different versions. honestly it's not worth all the trouble of getting the artifacts every time just to get a chance to see a small interaction be different, so thank you very much for compiling them all here.
You could probably save before entering the unity and keep reloading the save until you get one that you want. I kind of want to do that to get myself as a crew member.
@@NJM0324 I didnt think of that. It would certainly be the best way to do it.
@@NJM0324you can get alternate universes after you’ve used the unity, before you travel to Jemison. It’s worked for me a few times, but I’m trying to find a faster way than having to fly to Jemison and travel to the lodge each time.
There's a lot of other differences. Secret venders, ship encounters and weapons you couldn't get before
I'm on ng+ 10 and have gotten normal stuff all 10 times. But I'm just known to be super unlucky.
So I’ve just been loading and reloading for near 3 hours.
I saw 2 ‘alt’ universes in that time. (This isn’t including the 10 NG+ play throughs I did without seeing 1 alt universe). On my last NG+ I was loading and reloading to get the perfect armour roll for my proper play through, but while doing that I noticed something.
When the game reloads after the credits and you’re on the ship, press start and if your mission says “Go to the Lodge (MAST district)” I was in a ‘normal’ universe everytime (this includes my 10 NG+ runs).
If it just says “Go to the Lodge” you’re in a ‘Alt’ universe. Now admittedly, it was only twice I saw the difference in the wording of the mission but it was an alt universe each time (first one was with evil me/you, second time was when Andreja takes over).
Again, it might not be an indicator it’s just something I noticed and wanted to share. So it seems (seems being the operative word) you can tell that you’re in an ‘alt’ universe before getting to the lodge, albeit which one isn’t clear until you get to the Lodge.
Uh. Interesting. Thanks!
Yeah.. That's kinda obvious.
"I WORK ALONE."
"Yes, we know"
So simple, so amazing.
Edgelords, amirite?
"Don't bother me. I'm brooding over the death of my parents..."
"We know. You do that and tell us that all the time."
I like how the first one is basically:
"Who are you?!"
"I'm you, but better."
The constellation full of YOU had me in tears. It reminds me of Space Dandy so much
Andreja can be convinced to stand down if you have the great serpent trait.
Love my goth wife
@@matthewearp3642 I am on first run and about to sacrifice Andreja over Sam Coe (he is currently with me on that Collector ship, named Pavard... Pavlov something like that). Cause true love is the one we lost.
@@matthewearp3642 She's hands down the best female in the game.
Can you change traits?
@@Co1eTrain84 Kinda late but now you can change traits. I assume you could already do that before with console commands but still. :P
I think they should’ve made “Loner you” the “Mantis” seeming how that’s starfields version of Batman. It would fit it perfectly
I was thinking throughout this, I know it won't ever happen, but a universe where you meet one of your other characters you created (if you create one) would honestly be funny
Another idea: Meet yourself but gender-swapped
Meet yourself bit one of you is the bad guy lmfaoooo
Would be, but something tells me part of the reason Bethesda didn’t do that was to avoid butchering that character’s personality, or the way they sound, however you imagined them. But I guess you could say that maybe they’re in one of the Universes we’re exploring, but they’re just not where we are at the same time. I’d like to imagine that
@@Lapinnoowhy didn’t anyone think of that? That’d be cool if Bethesda made an update or DLC that adds on to the New Game +, and it can detect features of your male character, and in another universe, make a female counterpart with your other features.
@Lapinnoo good idea but how would that work with the they/them pronouns thing?
On my new game plus Todd Howard showed up to the constellation dressed as wonder woman and gave each member a signed copy of the latest Skyrim remastered
ffs todd let skrim rest
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
cannot wait for modders find their ways to add more ending to this game
If you side with the emissary in NG+, they can be various members of constelation.
Depends on who died or was destined to die.
First play-though was Barrett. Second was Sarah.
@@Emigdiosback For me it was Sam and then Andreja
@Emigdiosback it was sam for me first then barret apparently it's always who you liked the most so I'm going to try and make it the lucky lu pilot this time sound
The Cora one always hurts the most, my first play through I had the choice to let Sam or Sarah die, I unknowingly let Sam die and when I saw Cora’s reaction to it, and her “I HATE YOU” to me when I tried to console her was heartbreaking, I couldn’t do it. Had to let Sarah die.
Loner you never fails to make me laugh, it's the whole batman voice I WORK ALONE!" Just kills me every time😂 alao the last one is such a poke at people doing evil runs
They should have had some where you see either Lin or Heller instead of you at Constellation. And you can go back to the mine to find yourself.
Didn't experience any of these myself but what a great way to reward multiple playthroughs, even in just a small way. The plant one was my favourite!
Imagine romancing yourself in the new universe
Self love is important
XD but probably not possible
@@Hitman2bNot yet at least
@@Dragonaight i already see the modders
@@Hitman2b I will wait for the genderbender you romance mod, i am still very straight
“I need your help, Sarah. Wiggle your leaf if you understand” 😂
😂😂😂
Would be more ironic if she was a plant creature like Groot
I was expecting to wake up in a cart with Ralof and Ulfric
Hey, you. You're finally awake.
Or waking up to your 10th birthday in vault 101 lol
Funny how the "Plant" universe is the only one where Noel actually gets some of the spotlight. I literally forget she exists half the time.
Imagine a universe “if you have another character made” you can actually meet them at constellation Like the twin you
I hope they add more of these with DLCs and future updates the opportunity for universe fuckery is ripe
I think it would be interesting if you ran into one of the Universes where the Hunter razed it or like the UC had one of the Relics so a horde of Starborn tried to get it and the Universe is a hell hole.
the warhammer 40k ending where its all gone to hell
The universe with Walter buying Constellation is very close to Walter being Ferangi as we're goin to get
by giving away stuff for free, he broke at least 1/3 of the rules of acquisition.
@@MalcrowAlogoran agreed
@@MalcrowAlogoran He broke Rules of Acquisition number 21: Never place friendship above profit.
And I like to think his VA was leaning a bit on Quark for this bit.
@@TheLazyMan94 God I love the Star Trek references
The fact that there are multiple "main story" skips in NG+ is so cool. It looks like a lot of fun to encounter them and I bet more things like it could be added in the future either through DLC or even mods.
thanks for compiling!!!!
All I wanted was the first one. It took me more than 24 hours and reloading a save multiple times to get it. Now I’m just enjoying the game with myself. I got every other beginning except the "evil you" version.
After learning Scott Porter (Heimdall from God Of War) is your voice, I wished we got a voiced protagonist like in Fallout 4. I was part of the apparent minority of people who liked having a voiced protagonist in a Bethesda game.
When do you save? Before you enter the lodge? before you go into Unity? I always seem to get the normal universe even after New game + 5.
@GreenPartyHat save before unity, theres a 15% chance to get a unique universe so if you don’t get one reload back and walk through unity again
Thank you!@@xGarbett
Are you on console
Can you play the original MQ campaign normally in that universe or its the skipped version of NG+? Also what happens when you change your appearance does the NPC change too?
The “multiple yous” universe is hilarious, i cant imagine coming across this in a playthrough
On my 3rd unity run I got a version of The Emissary that was Sarah instead of Barrett
I dont want to spoil people but it changes based on the mission "a high price to pay", so who you had the highest affinity with, but in ng+ your affinity probably is equal so its random
@@rednaw1523 well that's interesting to know, I honestly thought it was just a 1 off unity
I just commented this. Happened to me too
I got one NG+ run where the Emissary was Sam Coe lol
@@Dahrk_Angel I think one of my friends is going to have that one, he said that Sam died in his first playthrough
Hopefully they will make more alternative universes in the future, in expansions perhaps.
Would like to see a universe with a big change, such as Freestar and UC still being at war in that universe.
With AI and all the 250,000 lines of recorded dialog it would be great if modders can make their own twist on these. I'd love to see one where you meet your child. You find out Sarah or Andreja backed out of the unity because they were feeling sick. They had been sick but didn't tell you. So on a hunch they might be pregnant they back out. Turns out they were and they raise your child before both going into the unity. Could set up a number of interesting story arcs, with the child looking for you for guidance or revenge for not being there.
This is definitely an RPG. I just finished the game and I don't have enough time to see all the cool NG+ differences but this is super cool how they did the templating for this game in multiple playthroughs. Although I'd imagine having to grind again for all your personal items will turn off for many people who sunk 30+ hours into the NG0.
I dont see a reason for NG+, u cant customize new ship (so it sucks by default), you still can join all factions in 1 playthru: joining Vanguard will not cut u from Crimson Fleet, and Rangers will not cut u from Ruyjin, and outcome does not shape the world in current playthru. Romanceable characters almost all the same. Plus game does not have Schematics from Fallout 76, so you wont able to rebuild some of ur settlement interior in few clicks.
Yea I thought about this for a while I was playing ng+ after leaving behind everything I've done. The new ship is so cool looking though I think having that ship made me not care about losing my stuff. After the first ng+ getting to the next universe is actually way faster so you could ng+5 probably in a few hours if you rush it.
if you think THIS is an rpg then you havent played baldurs gate or for that matter any other rpg
@@fawkyou2001 What an insipid take... smh
139 hours in ng0... i need a life
Our character trying to talk to Plant! Sarah Morgan was comedy gold.
I love getting the original universe twice in a row 😍
Got it 10 times in a row...
I know right! I've gotten it 6 times in a row 😂😂
I got it every damn time
I've never gotten anything other than the original universe in my 10 NG+ rip
They need to lower the chances of getting a standard universe and up the chances of getting a unique one tbh
I wonder what happens if you have kid stuff on the universe where you can have yourself on your crew. Does your parents just believe there is only one? Or do they treat you like a sibling to their kid lol.
I just checked this out and it's exactly the same as always. They treat you like their son even if you have yourself as a companion with you.
thats sucks considering they did add starborn dialogue @@MysticMothman
actually insane theres this many different plots. on these runs the open world probably changes as well
multiverse my friend
No
Im on NG+11 and i only got the Walter one so far and it was bugged. I would kinda be down to do a playthrough with the first one, hangout with myself lol
Go to your ship, access the ship cargo, go back to your inventory, this will unbug
well here's hoping that shattered space, whenever it comes out, adds more unique ones, I'd like serious ones, but completely off the wall loopy ones in addition would be awesome, plus maybe a little more rng in how everyone turns outs rather than just constellation
Imagine they can add another ten or so in every DLC. Keep everyone guessing for years, especially if the chance of some of them coming up is like one in ten thousand, or a hundred thousand, urban myth material.
Would be cool if you could have yourself for a companion in that last one, a star born companion would be badass
Yeah they should of made them a full companion instead of just a crew member. Honestly the few lines they gave player character are some of the best in the game.
alternate you actually has some nice dialogue if you ask some questions (my char has alien experiment, so no parents) but my alternative had parents and really wholesome dialogue too
Would have been cool if in the one where you meet yourself you can choose to either interfere with his journey and recruit him as a companion or just leave and let him go through the main quest like you originality did but have you the player be watching from the shadows keeping an eye on yourself maybe approach yourself and just not reveal your identity and offer little criptic hints here and there and during the story quest where one of constellations members would die you can step in and fight the hunter and prevent the death from happening.
Oh man this video is great. I didn't even know this was possible. I've done one playthrough.
I wish if you could return to a universe where you left it behind like the first universe you started the game in it, that would be really cool
''Maybe this isn't the first time you've come to the lodge and found things a little.... different''
PSYCHO MANTIS VIBES FOR SURE!
Thanks for uploading this. Definitely not worth NG++ several times just for a different cutscene.
man, your charicter is just every hippster ever.
Impressive. I didn't know there were so many alternate endings. I doubt many players do
@@GAMarine137 I think I’m a clone now
Having an ingame way to have an alternate universe version of the pc as a follower is so cool ngl
I've done NG+ over a dozen times and I always reject a side and I've never got one of these alternate starts. Every time it was regular Constellation with Sarah Morgan waiting for me.
i think its about 1% chance (or something just as low) to see an alternate. Save in unity, then enter and see what you get. Took me 17 tries to see one of those and it was bugged.
@@kzar99 oh i know about that method but to be honest i have no desire to save scum a result.
Thanks for the reply as it will help others who are trying to trigger them.
Got the universe where your doppelganger killed everyone and then asked hadn't you ever gotten tired of all their talking and just wanted to shoot them? I was initially pissed at the other me, then remembered the 6th or 7th time through Unity where I killed Vladimir and Lin just to see what would happen.
Would love to see one where everyone in Constellation is replaced by mannequins wearing their clothing.
They should have taken this even further. Have different NPCs take on different roles like the Freestar collective leader being the head of Sys Def
I would be stoked if The Hunter became a possible follower.
Cheers, mate. Good editing.
Rook
;inhales;
smashcut to slaughtering the entire key... again
I think it would be interesting if eldritch monsters, new aliens or entire planets were changed up and make it interesting when you go into the breach.
These are perfect for Alternate Start mods.
I think the normal you universe is the best for final universe to settle in. Everyone is still alive + "you".
Thanks. I knew not much more happens. After seeing this video, I know its not worth loosing all my ships and outposts
wow these are awesome, im curious how the main campaign plays out in these universes. im also wondering if its possible to save before starting a ng+ then loading that save to see if you get one of these univserses.
The one with multiple yous, do they all stay there or disappear after a bit?
Has anyone else had random encounters in their original play through that never happened again? Eg. legendary ships, rogue ai, ships with all dead crew and aliens onboard? Or is it just a bug and I should keep re rolling my ng+. Also thanks for putting this compilation together. Saved a lot of time 👍
most of those are actually in fixed locations that you "discover" the first time you warp to that system. Outside of the Lodge/Constellation/temple locations, nothing actually changes going into NG+ runs.
Am I seeing things, or is "Normal You" showing up in all the endings? Are they just permanently unlocked once you reach their universe for the first time?
I think its bugged don’t think he is suppose to spawn in all of them 🤣
The All You Universe is kinda awsome ngl
About the last one, it's funny that the game doesn't even allow to kill members of Constellation yourself since everyone is marked as 'essential'.
The Andreja one make you think. If she had not been caught by Sarah trying to communicate with as a spy she would have killed them all. Sarah catching her and her act of kindness completely changed Andreja. Maybe that was the guilt Andreja carried about not feeling like a full member. She remembered how close she came to killing them all. That said I'm glad she was the one I let die in my universe, she was the least good of the good group. She says some really sweet stuff to Sarah if she survives on that quest though, about her giving her a second chance.
Is it normal to not be able to save or access inventory in these universes? Seems to be a problem with me so i just end up loading a old save and going back through the unity...
The no save i could live with, but not being able to access my inventory to equip anything is a pain
Nah that's just a bug, Happens randomly when going through unity.
@@xGarbettI figure this bug happens when you're save scumming, and then trying to open your inventory too soon. I had this bug once too.... you have to wait until the quest pops up on the screen before attempting to open your inventory. And to everyone reading this, don't deny it, we all know you save scummed to try and get a good roll on the Starborn armor 😂😂😂😂
Note: I haven't had any inventory bugs like this since figuring this out.
Thanks for doing this. I just got to NG+5 and i have yet to see a variant. In the one with Vasco alone, who was standing in the room? I think the last one with Evil You also had what looked to be your character in normal clothes reading a book... what is with that?
Also, what did the note say in the "Kids" version?
I’ve went into unity for a second time, and when I went to the lodge it was the exact same as unity one? Don’t know if my games glitched
There should have been an option to go back to your universe through the unity, I have 130 hours into my playthrough there's no way in hell I'm starting a new game plus. Maybe after mod support, but hopefully somebody makes a mod to just jump through universes. Was such a stupid decision to force new game plus on people, I should be able to keep the stuff I spent 100s of hours collecting on top of getting the new ship and suit.
Imagine if you could actually talk to that plant. Also the parallel universe with kids at the lodge, it would be hilarious to see kids run new Atlantis and the crimson fleet! 😂. Reminded me of those kids in fallout that made their own society.
I think it would of been funny if on the 10 universe, you wake up bound on a cart where it literally just does the Skyrim opening but before you would get your head chopped off, you wake up and you see that Legate Rikus taking Sarah place.
Like the whole Universe is just Skyrim and Fallout Characters lol.
Little Lamplight
14:44 But then I thought, why not try something different this time. Only to find out that quest related NPCs can't be killed.
Appreciate this. I wanted to play all, but after realizing you lose a lot of content in them, I'm gonna stop rerolling for them.
Thanks for putting the spoiler right in the title. Always best to make the spoilers completely unavoidable.
I guess Star-Lord will meet more of himself then.
Would be nice if they were easier to find. I'm on NG 6 and have seen the same scenario in 5 of them.
11:22 “You killed my father! I I don’t care how many versions of you I have to kill“
Immediately follows up with….
“You’re a different version? Oh well you can go“
I could’ve been lying to her. So much for vengeance.
My favorite is no bugs universe
I’ve made 7 jumps into the unity and haven’t experienced any alternate universes. Am I doing something wrong? I’m doing straight runs without any side missions.
It's random. Iv seen its a 15% chance of getting a different beginning
holy crap they are all the same. thanks for the video duder.
jeeze the thing is you'd gotta speed run each universe if you wanna get to see all the differences but this is crazy, i also hear constellation isnt the only thing with its differences tho, but who wants to spend 300 hours each universe lol
They should’ve made a universe where everyone swapped backgrounds. Like have Sarah been a former member of the crimson fleet and andraja been a member of the church of the enlightened
That last one is literally the representation of all of us when we start a New Game on an RPG and decide to go Full Evil/Renegade after being kind people so many times.
Never.
I enjoy it when TH-cam pushes spoilers into my feed how neat
Why am I getting the same universe every time over and over, I’m on my 5th ng+ and I keep getting the typical “talk to Sarah” universe, and that’s it do I have to change my playthrough style and be more hostile? I’m lost here, any help would be appreciated from anyone
I'm currently level 118 and on NG+11, and still haven't gotten an "alternate" universe. I noticed there were very slight variations of dialog such as Matteo saying "which is clearly 100% fabricated" vs "which is clearly a lie". But that's it so far... Like I don't want to force it with console commands, but it's getting to the point now where I'm like wtaf...
I've alternated between choosing the Hunter and Emissary, killing both of them, romancing different companions, not using any companions at all (unless forced), being "bad"/"good", hell even "chaotic neutral", being greedy, a thief/merc for hire... all to no avail.
Gotta make one where you walk in and everyone in Constellation is dressed in Skyrim outfits. Sarah's in Imperial Legion armor, Sam's dressed as a Stormcloak, Andreja is dressed as a Dark Brotherhood assassin, and Barrett is in stereotypical Dragonborn garb.
Here's a question...
Is the lodge the only place in the game impacted by alternate universe scenarios?
Has anyone found anything different anywhere else?
We know that a lot of times, the lodge scenario in an alternate universe is the same. But what if something else has changed elsewhere in the game. Like different NPCs in different roles? Or the progress of certain historical events being different so going through the Vanguard's historical sequence might tell a slightly different story? ?
The lodge makes sense as the most obvious place to put a few alternative events, but it seems to me that in all those thousand worlds, there's bound to be something present on at least one that wasn't there before.
There is after all that reference made about a thousand trips through the Unity... Kind of sus that they would specifically mention that number and there being over 1000 planets to visit. The "over" part is likely taking the main planets tied to the storylines, but the others? Is it possible that one different planer in each journey through a playthrough holds something unique and special, and the only way that anyone can truly experience the entire game is if they find it in each subsequent NG+ playthrough?
Besides dialogue options telling npcs you've met them before or something along those lines no, for instance during the crimson fleet quest line depending on who you side with during the previous ng+ cycle at the end when after you pick a side and either kill or get the boss to stand down your character will mention siding with (faction boss) in the past and didn't like the outcome besides that all the missions are exactly the same and don't have different outcomes don't know if it's the same if you chose to replay the main story though
Yup. Alt scenarios only impact the lodge/Constellation and remove your ability to do the full main story.
@@asmosisyup2557 if you get the regular lodge you can replay the main quest
Exiling your multiverse self to mine for minerals on a back water planet would be hilarious.
Finished the game 9 times, gotten the same universe everytime.
Are you playing the exact same way? It would be interesting to see new universes are tied to how you played your last one.
@@kijiisemo4876 I had considered that myself too. The answer is yes, I generally got into a rhythm for muscle-memory sake to speed the process up and so yes I played the "same way".
I do wonder if variations in choices and actions alter the possibility of varied endings or if it is literally a dice roll each time NG+ starts.
@Slemoster I'd say, if you're a "lawful good" kind of player, try being a "chaotic evil player."
Is there any changes to dialogue if you romanced a companion in the previous universe?
i have romance both Sara and Adreja in 2 playthroughs and the only difference in dialogue i noticed (in my 3rd), is with Sara. She says something along these lines "i am not the sara you knew" when you first mentioned you knew her. This only occurs in full playthrough (no skipping main story option)
With Barret you can skip to him getting his power but that's all I know of
Well this is the oddest thing i came up on. Im a few missions away and i dident know about this, so you can actually have a talking version of yourself 🤣🤣 something they never should've took out personally. But i think this was a clever way to use the starborn multiverse for NG+