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Bethesda should have really married the multiverse theory by having individual player games start out in different universes so no two players really have the exact samw start.
See that makes a hell of a lot more sense then NG+ alternate start mods are some of the most popular. I don't know anyone who asked for an endless grind that resets everything. I want to change up my build and playstyle not keep playing the same character with the occasional joke.
Yup, I had small thought like this when videos of NG+ started coming up. Like make 10 well crafted linear tales that converges with you meeting various selves or reality. Heck, replaying the game means you're replaying each variation of the story they had. But your take is simply brilliant. Let the game start every player randomly in one of the 10 different tale, and shuffle the NG+ order differently so that everyone gets a different journey. Imagine the impact it would have had on the games industry.
Had this exact thought last week. So much potential with the multiverse aspect considering how different starts, combinations and NG+'s can be added with updates/cheap DLC's.
It was lazy writing through and through they want us all doing NG+ for only a change in the welcome at the lodge and no differences in the missions with freestar and United colonies is a huge let down
The fact that Vasco has the processing ability to acknowledge multiverses and trust you after that fact is impressive. On top of that, he’s basically acknowledging his own mental health by staying behind. Where was this character development during the main game?
its a great concept, its just sloppy how they executed it. it becomes tedious doing the same thing again and again hoping you'll run into moments like these and the creativity behind them is wasted when it couldve made the core game better overall. @@YouCareMoreThanMe
@@YouCareMoreThanMeit’s literally the same thing repeating itself with a different intro and slightly different dialogue here and there and you actually fell for it
Vasco stays behind because there always has to be someone at the lodge, and since Noel and Vlad are dead (the two who normally keep things running), it falls to him as the last member of Constellation other than the player. So he can't travel with the player, and could only leave if the player were the one staying behind; in both cases, he can't follow the player any more. I am not sure how you took it as a way of him saying he was staying behind for his own mental health.
@@masondeross he doesn't state himself why he has to stay, its left to interpretation. maybe he's *just* a machine driven by protocol, but given that he recognizes, speaks for and can guess what his dead companions would say and feel and he can understand something as complex as alternate universes himself, assuming that he isnt sentient enough to decide he just needs a break after all his friends have died is imprudent.
Curiously, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias, as it fell, was, "Oh no, not again!" Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly *why* the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the universe than we do now.
The "Multiple You" universe really makes me want it to become its own questline, where New You and the others have to find out why all of their doppelgangers keep showing up. Eventually, you have to fight a whole army of what is basically yourself, unified against you and the other versions. At the very end, you find out that it wasn't a real universe- it was a "Buffer Space" section of the Unity, where it was storing all the Starborn variations of you. When you enter the Unity to leave, it explains that you're one of the most proliferated Starborn in the universe, thanks to a sudden rise in versions of You beating the other Starborn and reaching the Unity.
@@MesaAufenhand what the hell are you even talking about? Nobody in the gaming industry has used a design document in like 10 years. The standard has been Documentation plural, and that's true for every industry because programs are so ungodly big. Listen, you need to stop being so gullible. You literally don't know what you're talking about and you're angry anyway, be real here, is there anything more embarrassing than getting angry and realizing you sound like a moron? Just grow up and keep it to yourself, or keep being a completely unlikable prick who can't think for himself and needs someone to tell you what to be mad about.
After getting fed up with the obnoxious dialog, constant judging (blablabla hated this), and diving in front of your guns, I can completely relate with the version of me that wants to work alone.
I get the feeling that most of the dialog for Starfield was written by a narcissist. They probably were also behind creating the Universe where all members were them. They probably spend more time romancing themselves instead of doing missions.
Thankfully you can hire some folks in the Viewport bar in New Atlantis and skip all that. Still kind of a shame that Andreja went all stupid for House Va'Ruun in some of the universes.
Honestly, seeing these just makes me think "Yeah this would get horrifying and make me decide that I need to somehow make this multiverse traveling stop because this is going horribly wrong."
That should be the DLC universe is getting worse and worse progressively till things are nightmarish as hell and the only way to stop it is to just not go
I got that message after the first jump tbh, no point repeating things over and over out of boredom til the end of time Actually, do starborn stop aging?
I was hoping the player would choose to dialogue about wiggling her leaves just so I can see if they had anything else attached to it, but probably not. Bethesda isn't that deep.
@@Gaffermanbecause they didn’t make an extra 2 minute scenario to fit a very specific few that care for something so minuscule? The joke was fine don’t need to drag it out to be funny
Because they didn't do anything to make universes ACTUALLY different. Could have been a cool procedurtal feature to make this game great but... No. @@Pugerino
the problem that I have with the multiverse idea in this game is that they only seem to highlight Constellation itself and nothing that happens outward after that.
It's not half assed, BGS literally needs to measure the fun of having a totally wacky new universe (that most people won't ever see) against fucking over people who just want to play through the game again. They changed constellation so that your main story beats are different, but left everything else alone so you can still play the game more-or-less normally. Not to mention Bethesda might have released Starfield after the Microsoft acquisition, but they were making the game long before the acquisition, so Starfield can hardly be considered a AAA game. Obviously it's not indie, but it's in the middle of indie-to-AAA. Youre just an easily manipulated, terminally online tool repeating angry comments because it makes you feel smart to tear down the game.
@@ssgoko88 Bethesda fanboys go to any lengths. Have you tried playing any other games? And lmfao Starfield is still a triple A game that should be held to the same standards. Bethesda has been a Triple A game studio for DECADES, it's one of staples.
The universe with all the faction versions of you: “And, over there pointing a gun at me with evil intent is the one we call, ‘Murderhobo You’ because he just kills and steals everything in sight.”
i haven’t been through Unity yet but i’m fairly certain my character js definitely the Crimson Fleet version of them. 365000 odd bounty with UC and 200000 odd with the freestar i have more then enough to pay it off, my ship is just too fast to be shot down and using turrets facing backwards makes deadly tail gunners
I wish they went harder with the multiverse. Like the way the world looks around you. Such as buildings or entire cities can be gone or destroyed looking or even blended together with other cities. Or even let us beable to traverse back and forth between universes like that one mission.
I think they should have made all the quests line mutually exclusive with an opposing one, such as UC or FC, Crimson or SEC, an a different, opposing arch for Ryujin. Then within these alternate universes mix certain quest conditions based on being different characters. Such as a version of ryujin where Imod was the spy. Or a version of FC where guy is innocent. It would give you more reason to enter another universe. At least to play each faction, and then even playing the same faction might get you a different flavor of the same overall quest.
Unfortunately, this is typical of recent Bethsoft games. Set up a good premise and fumble it. Look at Skyrim. It was supposed to be the end of the world; Alduin did not seem remotely that powerful or frightening. The weather didn't worsen over time, no cities were really destroyed by the dragons (what were they doing, playing spades? Getting pedicures?). Nothing -changed-, no matter where you were in the storyline. They applied that formula to Starfield, only their 'First New IP In Decades'(tm) didn't have any of the background that TES did to cover over and diffuse the oops.
@@thegoldenatlas753 not true! after fallout 4 they made the skyrim re-release. and then the skyrim re-release. we can't forget about the skyrim re-release. oh, or the skyrim re-release. then there's the skyrim re-release. (this is a sarcastic and somewhat annoyed joke about how they KEEP FUCKING RE-RELEASING SKYRIM)
The one that I find the saddest is Vasco being by himself, and for some reason thinking he needs to just stand there. No way buddy! Come on! We're going exploring! I find Cora's version weird. She's smarter than that. She knows full well that killing random You's who helped and protected her father regularly and often is straight wrong. Sam and her mother raised her better than that. Then I remember she isn't the Cora you knew. lol
There is a version of the Cora NG+ that if you don't let Sam die in any playthrough you get another dialogue option where she's like "I got the wrong you? Dammit, here just take the artifacts and go"
I hate how the game has some fairly interesting narrative elements with the starborn; these groups of superhumans chasing the artifacts without really knowing why, hoping something will eventually change, having turned callous by the infinite nature of the multiverse. You get to see a bunch of different perspectives on their situation, from those obsessed with the grind like the hunter, to those that give it up and try to build something like the sanctum. And yet at the end of the game, you just kinda...join the ratrace? leave everything behind to chase artifacts endlessly for no real reason. This immense narrative space is just taken up by offhand jokes, as you effectively become just another mindless starborn drone stuck in the maze
Jesus fuck why doesn't anyone seem to get the damn point of the story? Its a build up to a choice. More power and loose all you have, or gain nothing and loose nothing. It is a gamble. It is a dilemma. There is no right answer because it hinges entirely on *your* self. How do you feel. Literally every character we see leading up to the choice is a possibility, of what you become. Callous? Settle down? Choose not to go? Its all right there laying out for you. Yet somehow everyone seems completely incapable of making basic connections, would you like a fucking arrow pointing at the point? Im so tired of the endless drabble "there's no point to ng+" "you loose everything in ng+" Yea that's the damn point.
He does have dialog, if you ask him questions, he will ask you questions as well. But its pretty limited. There is no relationship or quest though. I def wanted to marry myself. There is a lot of dialogue quips while combat and getting each other though that make it a lot of fun, when transferring gear, to yourself. Its the only alt universe that has an effect outside the lodge. I do wish they would have added some reactions in the other quests to your twin.
If you have the perk that gives you parents they treat you like their child and ignore the other you entirely even when he is in the room. It's shortsighted in my opinion.
@@KiloGames I agree. Some of the dialog actually referes to how close you are with your parents and it would be interesting have seen that interaction. Even if small. However the game does have like 130k dialog clips so maybe asking for a dozen more is too much. Honestly I think with a concept like this infinite universe thing, The game felt small and limited.
Having this be a main part of the game would have made it all so much more interesting. These small sections make me more interested in the game then the 100+ hours I put into the game
@@spitymaehThe emptiness I felt seeing my 1.5mill creds, outposts and crap ton of resources disappear far outweighed the excitement I felt when I got the starborn ship and armour.
Nope won’t be touching NG until specific DLC gives better reason to. Poorly thought out story with the main story and borestellation it’s like they’ve encouraged the game to be used by streamers and those with no attention span to rush to NG+ for no reason having to restart outposts and gaining money again is a grind if you skip the fetch quests in NG+ the only advantage is your piloting skill level once you’ve remade enough money you can rebuild your custom ship. The “reward” for NG is a slap in the face too the starborn ship isn’t that great even fully upgraded at NG+6 and the starborn armor maxes out at NG+10 and is worst than a standard 3 set legendary armors with helmet,pack and armor lol not worth the effort to do it to have dragon shouts in space. I just restart with a new build like we all did with Skyrim. Shattered Space DLC better have a damn better storyline to it than the failure that was constellations otherwise can safely call it the flop of the year even with the sales at early access. The warning signs were sadly there with it being exclusively available in gamepass at launch lol
5 minutes in and I can't stop laughing. This is a huge spoiler, seeing as I'm only first level NG+ but definitely looks like something I should pursue. Thanks
same here, I just ng'd or unity'd or whatever last night, had no idea any of these could happen. is the first one always the one where you walk in and everyone says you disappeared until now?
@@11er33.you can get any of these but they’re jokes. You can’t open the inventory apart from a few of these and you’re intended to just die and revert to your last auto save before the Unity.
The multiverses in this game are confusing. Like Hunter saying "Hello Again". Have you met that version of the Hunter? Also Walter knowing what time you were going to show up at the Lodge. Why do you always start at the end of Vectera? Where and when do the other Starborn arrive in other universes? In the universe with all yourselves, why are they hanging out at the lodge, and not getting artifacts? Do they retire to that universe or come with you? Cora's dad lives in an infinite number of Universes, so why is she getting revenge for her universe?
The canon version of Cora in my head is that she only appears to starborns who let Sam die in their original universe, and she IS the same cora that doesnt want to talk with us anymore. She got older, found the unity too and has been jumping universes until she finds the specific same one from her universe.
Cora's dad is dead. The others are versions of him but not him. It's not her universe. I'm guessing we start over Vectera because that's where the story originally began. And most times everyone is at the lodge because we always crash a big meeting they were having about obtaining the artifacts.
@@sjmuhammad19I've been to 6+ universes, and sam died in none of them. In the multiverse, there is both an unlimited amount where he lives, and an unlimited amount where he dies. It makes zero sense to get infinite revenge just because you are unlucky in your universe. Just find a universe where Sam lives, but you died.
The jumps are guided by Unity, you start in Vect because that is where your story started and Unity knows that's where you need to be. The same is true of Walter, Cora, and the other Yous. They end up in the time and place Unity needs then to be ... probably because "You You" are actually special as the Hunter thinks you are since you entering Unity is causing ripples throughout the Multiverse. Because something to consider is that there is an infinity between 2 and 3 but you'll never find a 4, at least until you first entered Unity.
It's pretty much just the lodge and companion choices. Everything unrelated to Constellation stays the exact same. So, most of these actually have LESS content then the base game, because you lose companion quests and the like.
@@higueraft571 NMS, the game that took 5 YEARS to improve a complete FLOP into something slightly less disappointing. Very fitting comparison. Well done.
@@Kris.G HAVE you actually played it? >into something slightly less disappointing. So what *exactly* sold you on it to begin with in 2016, that you were disappointed by the lack of, which is apparently still lacking today? Do you even LIKE games like NMS to begin with? Or is this like me reviewing LoL, Dota, TF2, or Slay the Spire or such? (games i dont like and have 0 interest in as far as gameplay goes)
It's a shame that Constellation is the only thing that is different in the alternate timelines. Would be pretty funny to also have every random NPC out in Atlantis also be you, or a potted plant or everyone be Va'ruun out to kill you etc. Also missed opportunity just to have "Loner you" just in the darker corner just STARING you down in silence.
People complain about the lack of effort in this game, but the amount of random variation and content that is in the game, that most people would never see, is far more than even Skyrim.
Thanks for this, relieved I won’t have to break character to see everything the game has to offer. There is absolutely no reason to enter the Unity if you got married. Big fail by Bethesda that you can’t bring your ship and crew.
This sort of thing makes me feel like Starfield isn’t just corporate slop. It feels almost worse, in a way? There was an idea and some passion but it just became… something.
in these special universes, Bethesda didn't want players to stick around so they disabled saving. If you're on PC, use console command "setinchargen 0 0 0" to re-enable saving, then you can stay there.
@@Ispendwaytoomuchtimescrolling wish it did. Like you would have to track down and find the pieces themselves. Have to rebuild Constellation, or find another group to help you out.
I’m not going through any NG+ playthroughs. I just don’t like the multiverse theory. I want to explore just one universe and get it to 100%. Besides this, I am married to Sarah and don’t want to leave her behind 😅
Well, you can just marry other universe Sarah 😂 In my first universe, I married Sarah, but she died…then I “married” Andreja to cope. Definite downgrade, so I bounced to 10 universes later and am jaded af like the Hunter
The problem with that is it’s crap design and writing even Sarah if you romance her admits she eventually will go through the unity for she feels the curiousity towards it eventually will get the better of her and the MC. I think honestly the whole NG+ and multiverse wasn’t needed it’s Skyrim dragon shouts in space with no real reward outside of random chance for the alternate intros at the lodge. I’m close to finishing the main story but honestly seeing the fact multiple people have tortured themselves with even bothering to try Ng+ I feel the game would’ve been better without the whole constellation faction and multiverse rubbish thrown in to try to keep players in game till elder scrolls 6 but if this the new quality of writing it’s a warning sign of what is going to be bad with Elder scrolls next instalment. I can’t be the only one who felt the vanguard questline felt more like the main story, constellations felt like just one big massive side quest.
@@Deafmandalorall the side quests felt like they could’ve been expanded on and made into their own game but ironically the main story was the most lacking by far. Literally just run to a planet, collect a rock, fight a super powered being or two, then dip. My favorite is when you get to a temple that’s supposed to be all mystical and no one’s ever heard of it yet you see civilian space craft landing 500 meters away or a building in clear eyeshot 😂
No, no, Noel is there to buy my Quark Degenerative Tissues for nearly a 1,000 credits a pop. She also talks about my brainwave activity. Although, I wouldn't necessarily mind a universe where Sarah Morgan was a potted plant... Evil me has to die a horrible death for doing that to Barrett though. You do NOT kill the guy that boosts your Particle Beam weapons. He even gives you tacos! Monster! Psychopath! He's getting forcefully rendered into quantum energy for that.
Well, now (discovered, not added) there’s an 11th outcome from NG + after you beat it the 33rd time; you meet yourself that beat the game the first time and confirms it is you and knows the multiverse. Not the same as the one where there’s multiple of you either.
judjing by the name, the DLC will most likely be related to this alternate universe / NG+ content, so it would be cool if they made it where, if you choose to stay in your original universe, you can encounter other versions of yourself / starborn who came to YOUR universe.
Honestly this presents a much more interesting storyline: What if all these events happened while you were actively playing? You find the first piece in the mines and as you play things slowly get weirder. Cities change, an evil version of you starts running around, characters die and come back in the blink of an eye. Your universe is falling into chaos as dozens of others merge into it, and everyone is after the same thing: the artifacts that could be used to stop the madness... too bad your universe is the only one with a complete set and everyone else is there to grab them. Sigh... instead we got the generic loading simulator they churned out.
Eu não concordo contigo, da maneira que você falou ia ser toda vez esse cenário macante, já do jeito que é em uma jogatina eu posso jogar na crinsom fleet, em outra na uc, resolvendo o problema do fallout 4 em que você pode ser o líder supremo de todas as facções juntas
The interesting part about being a cultist is you’re not actually a cultist. You follow the religion but you weren’t born of House Va’ruun and are therefore not of the people and not protected by the Great Serpent. Made me really wonder what the point of being a follower of the religion was. They’d probably still try to kill you after an extra dialogue step where you try to argue that you’re a follower of their religion. I haven’t done that NG+ but when you romance Andreja with the Va’ruun trait she still has all of the same dialogue about how when the Great Serpent comes you will die and how that’s hard for her to reconcile, even after she knows you have that trait. The main benefit of the trait is a few times during the main story and the extra benefits from grav jumping.
Good thing Bethesda is unable to write compelling characters and stories that will stay with you in the first place. Now they've written themselves in a corner.
It has a 15% chance for 1 of the 10 alternate universes to appear for you I got lucky and got the grown-up Cora universe and the universe with 2 versions of me within 10 Unities
I'm on NG+7, and every universe is the same, but I'm okay with that because this looks stupid af. Just getting myself to +10 then I'm going to do all the side missions and actually play the damn game...
@@WIZSEGAMING 15% chance for any alternate at all (after which it randomly picks from the 10). But that only starts after the 2nd, so you only have 3-7 as potential alternates. So just over 1 in 7 chance, and you've only had 5 rolls of that die. They really should guarantee the 3rd one is an alternate before making it random chance, just so you can see the exist, and then have the future odds increase every time you get the vanilla universe in a row. I would just make it additive, so by the 6th vanilla in a row you have 90% chance and then the 7th is guaranteed since it would be 105%. Otherwise you are going to have many people who get 20-30 or more without ever seeing one, just because streaks are not uncommon in small sets.
I wonder what would happen if you used an EM weapon to stun, loot/pickpocket then just leave them alive vs killing them. You get all the artifacts but they aren't dead - especially doing that to yourself.
it's interesting to see that. I did 15 rounds and it was always the same, but on the third round there was a flower pot and I couldn't save the game and had to cancel. I wonder why the Trigger is to change the Realitiy.
A bit late but if that's happening to you, you can try to tab out of the game, that will usually open the menu where you can save and load old saves. Worked for me..
I think they kind of missed an opportunity on a few of those openings. Like the one when you meet your evil self and having to chase him down while having the different factions hunting you for all the things he did, or the one when you meet your younger self making romance weird cause your parent doesn’t know who’s who or you and your younger self calling each other brothers because it’s easier, or in the one where all of constellation retired you have to try to get the band back together as it were while the hunter was trying to kill them. Just so many ways to make the game better and more replayable.
It's sad how there weren't more variations. Like, even subtle ones. Like new floor boards, or Andreja being blonde, or United Colonies being called something different.
They did way too little with this. Introducing MU in the start feels it removes a lot of consequences. It would have been fun if the worlds were different, maybe in one universe one of your companions could have been a leader and kept some of the systems as a police state etc. I think it is a bit of a shame
This was my favorite part about going in totally blind, first multiverse I hit was like so odd to me, especially seeing as Bethesda isn’t known for any kind of NG+. Definitely a funny surprise.
I feel that in the universe with those kids pretending to be constellation, the original members went through so much that they left and note and the artifacts to avoid the headaches of dealing with starborn… crazy
Nightmare Sequence/Joke Gameplay of NG+ is definitely the “Multiple Versions of You in the lodge” but the Canon, to me atleast, is definitely meeting yourself and recruiting yourself
I will just keep my "real save" on retainer and pretend any NG+ I encounter never actually happened. I want bethesda to release an update to add more closure to a Only OG universe option. Or at least a way to return to your original universe.
so, are all the other new games +'s just resetting the main story with the exception of these unique ones that you can get randomly? Is there a way to get back to your original "world" of sorts or is it legit considered a one way trip? Outside of a few items you supposedly get when you do NG+ are there any other things that change like higher leveled planets or stronger gear?
"Outside of a few items you supposedly get when you do NG+ are there any other things that change like higher leveled planets or stronger gear?" The named weapons levelscale when crossing, and I think you get different versions of the starborn suit, that's pretty much it I think
Maybe if Bethesda had not spent ridiculous time building up these different timelines just to make a gimmick for ng+ to look cool and focused on improving a single playthrough, this game would have been great....perfect case of past successes going to your head and thinking you dont have to improve anything
My last universe playthrough I faced off against myself as a starborn. It was crazy!!!! I was ridin solo and loved it, the crimson fleet quest tho had a glitch/bug in it and I couldnt complete it :-/ jumped universes and now Im playing it normally. I really like the other variants.
The New Game Plus in Starfield is getting more awesome and tragic at the same time. I blame Rick and Morty for all this, they messed up realities and dimensions so severe that Starfield is starting to follow their footsteps every time you enter the unity to a different reality. I'm definitely buying my own copy.
They need another random start where you got both the hunter and psychotic you working together. 1. You see the aftermath and 2. You happen to be there before the duo.
Somebody at Bethesda should of watched Stein's Gate or something. Most of these NG+ are basic or are just killing X person to get all the artifacts in one go. Like we couldn't get a universe where the Crimson Fleet is more Robin Hood like or maybe a force for good? Maybe the colony war is still ongoing in one universe or about to start again. Maybe there's a universe where the grav drive incident never happened and the only planet with human life on it is still Earth, and the few other planets they could travel to before the grav drives. Like for a concept with limitless potential they didn't even bothering tapping into it. -Meeting yourself and making yourself a companion is interesting, but basic. -The one where you meet multiple versions of yourself would be better if you could make them companions, finally having some none good natured followers or even reference Rick and Morty and how they want to band together with multiple versions of you to rule the multiverse, giving them all a common goal. Maybe a quest to track down other starborn yous that exist in the universe and that's how you get the artifacts again. -It would be good if you could convince Cora in the universe you meet her to join forces. I understand your dad died, but just because one of me is a psychopath doesn't mean they all are and deserve death. You could do this with the other multiverses where you just end up killing people too. Have the Hunter, Emissary, or other characters be your sole companion with a different outlook then the main world line.
I haven't gotten most of these alternate realities. I got the all me, I've gotten the kids twice, and I've had the one that you can't access your inventory. After NG+ 10, that's it.
Once you get to NG+10, are you still able to jump to new universes, or are you forever locked in that +10? (still in +3... currently on Evil mode and being a Pirate, lol)
This is actually a really cool concept, that almost no-one will see because no-one will play through it enough times. As with so much Bethesda stuff, they have great ideas that are only half baked in implementation.
This is by and far the most interesting part of this game. There’s always that one guy in the room that has this wild idea and I guess they decided to throw him a bone for once. Maybe we’ll see something like this in fallout 5.
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Bethesda should have really married the multiverse theory by having individual player games start out in different universes so no two players really have the exact samw start.
See that makes a hell of a lot more sense then NG+ alternate start mods are some of the most popular. I don't know anyone who asked for an endless grind that resets everything. I want to change up my build and playstyle not keep playing the same character with the occasional joke.
Yup, I had small thought like this when videos of NG+ started coming up. Like make 10 well crafted linear tales that converges with you meeting various selves or reality. Heck, replaying the game means you're replaying each variation of the story they had. But your take is simply brilliant. Let the game start every player randomly in one of the 10 different tale, and shuffle the NG+ order differently so that everyone gets a different journey. Imagine the impact it would have had on the games industry.
Had this exact thought last week. So much potential with the multiverse aspect considering how different starts, combinations and NG+'s can be added with updates/cheap DLC's.
It was lazy writing through and through they want us all doing NG+ for only a change in the welcome at the lodge and no differences in the missions with freestar and United colonies is a huge let down
I’m sure we’ll get a mod for that next year
The ability to just meet yourself and just... become partners with yourself.
Well, they say if you dont trust yourself, then who CAN you trust?
“You didn’t like that”
@@1happboylmaooooo
Trust no one not even yourself
@@Rex-qf7en rip and tear until it’s done
can you romance yourself?
The fact that Vasco has the processing ability to acknowledge multiverses and trust you after that fact is impressive. On top of that, he’s basically acknowledging his own mental health by staying behind. Where was this character development during the main game?
That’s the point. Theres more than just one universe. Theres more than just one “MAIN STORY”. If you missed that, then you missed the point lol
its a great concept, its just sloppy how they executed it. it becomes tedious doing the same thing again and again hoping you'll run into moments like these and the creativity behind them is wasted when it couldve made the core game better overall. @@YouCareMoreThanMe
@@YouCareMoreThanMeit’s literally the same thing repeating itself with a different intro and slightly different dialogue here and there and you actually fell for it
Vasco stays behind because there always has to be someone at the lodge, and since Noel and Vlad are dead (the two who normally keep things running), it falls to him as the last member of Constellation other than the player. So he can't travel with the player, and could only leave if the player were the one staying behind; in both cases, he can't follow the player any more. I am not sure how you took it as a way of him saying he was staying behind for his own mental health.
@@masondeross he doesn't state himself why he has to stay, its left to interpretation. maybe he's *just* a machine driven by protocol, but given that he recognizes, speaks for and can guess what his dead companions would say and feel and he can understand something as complex as alternate universes himself, assuming that he isnt sentient enough to decide he just needs a break after all his friends have died is imprudent.
"Im not cut out for this"
- is literally the player
Curiously, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias, as it fell, was, "Oh no, not again!" Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly *why* the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the universe than we do now.
My favorite Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy quote
I just gave you like (42). Now you know.😂
I love that that's actually answered in the later books
Anyone ever play Starship Titanic? PC game by Douglas Adams, point and click adventure/puzzle mystery kind of like Myst.
The "Multiple You" universe really makes me want it to become its own questline, where New You and the others have to find out why all of their doppelgangers keep showing up. Eventually, you have to fight a whole army of what is basically yourself, unified against you and the other versions.
At the very end, you find out that it wasn't a real universe- it was a "Buffer Space" section of the Unity, where it was storing all the Starborn variations of you. When you enter the Unity to leave, it explains that you're one of the most proliferated Starborn in the universe, thanks to a sudden rise in versions of You beating the other Starborn and reaching the Unity.
That would require Bethesda to evolve their design documents from their Skyrim days
You had me for the first two sentences. Then you just went full M Night Shyamalan on us.
If I worked at Bethesda I'd have hired you on the spot for that one 😂❤
@@sarasheppard8242 please don't work at Bethesda. They're shit enough as it is.
@@MesaAufenhand what the hell are you even talking about? Nobody in the gaming industry has used a design document in like 10 years. The standard has been Documentation plural, and that's true for every industry because programs are so ungodly big.
Listen, you need to stop being so gullible. You literally don't know what you're talking about and you're angry anyway, be real here, is there anything more embarrassing than getting angry and realizing you sound like a moron? Just grow up and keep it to yourself, or keep being a completely unlikable prick who can't think for himself and needs someone to tell you what to be mad about.
After getting fed up with the obnoxious dialog, constant judging (blablabla hated this), and diving in front of your guns, I can completely relate with the version of me that wants to work alone.
It was probably a variant of him who killed all the members of Constellation at 12:39
Ship attacks you. You board it. Sarah kills everyone. Sarah blames you for their murder.
We know. We. Know.
I get the feeling that most of the dialog for Starfield was written by a narcissist. They probably were also behind creating the Universe where all members were them. They probably spend more time romancing themselves instead of doing missions.
Thankfully you can hire some folks in the Viewport bar in New Atlantis and skip all that. Still kind of a shame that Andreja went all stupid for House Va'Ruun in some of the universes.
or the one who killed all of them
there is another meeting of Cora... if you didnt let Sam Coe die.. she says "Of all this time, I met the wrong version of you? Just go."
Honestly, seeing these just makes me think "Yeah this would get horrifying and make me decide that I need to somehow make this multiverse traveling stop because this is going horribly wrong."
That should be the DLC universe is getting worse and worse progressively till things are nightmarish as hell and the only way to stop it is to just not go
I got that message after the first jump tbh, no point repeating things over and over out of boredom til the end of time
Actually, do starborn stop aging?
@@Allabignothingwhat
@@ingamingpc1634 the DLC is called "Shattered Space" for a reason.
What was the reason @@philconey11
Last one was pretty awesome then disappointing. Pity they didn't go all the way in with succulent joke and just made all npc's succulents.
I was hoping the player would choose to dialogue about wiggling her leaves just so I can see if they had anything else attached to it, but probably not. Bethesda isn't that deep.
or just have you at least chat with the plants a bit longer to really seal in the "going nutty" joke
Have they really just been this lazy?
@@Gaffermanbecause they didn’t make an extra 2 minute scenario to fit a very specific few that care for something so minuscule? The joke was fine don’t need to drag it out to be funny
Because they didn't do anything to make universes ACTUALLY different. Could have been a cool procedurtal feature to make this game great but... No. @@Pugerino
the problem that I have with the multiverse idea in this game is that they only seem to highlight Constellation itself and nothing that happens outward after that.
don't tell me bethesda has half-assed something in this game
its a loop
It's not half assed, BGS literally needs to measure the fun of having a totally wacky new universe (that most people won't ever see) against fucking over people who just want to play through the game again. They changed constellation so that your main story beats are different, but left everything else alone so you can still play the game more-or-less normally.
Not to mention Bethesda might have released Starfield after the Microsoft acquisition, but they were making the game long before the acquisition, so Starfield can hardly be considered a AAA game. Obviously it's not indie, but it's in the middle of indie-to-AAA.
Youre just an easily manipulated, terminally online tool repeating angry comments because it makes you feel smart to tear down the game.
@@ssgoko88 Bethesda fanboys go to any lengths. Have you tried playing any other games?
And lmfao Starfield is still a triple A game that should be held to the same standards.
Bethesda has been a Triple A game studio for DECADES, it's one of staples.
@@harmlesshawk1794love how someone makes a legitimate argument and your first thought is “ew. Fanboy”
The universe with all the faction versions of you: “And, over there pointing a gun at me with evil intent is the one we call, ‘Murderhobo You’ because he just kills and steals everything in sight.”
“I would not look him directly in the eye.”
I WORK ALONE
That was for sure the intent with the one where Sarah was on the ground
i haven’t been through Unity yet but i’m fairly certain my character js definitely the Crimson Fleet version of them. 365000 odd bounty with UC and 200000 odd with the freestar
i have more then enough to pay it off, my ship is just too fast to be shot down and using turrets facing backwards makes deadly tail gunners
@@scyobiempire4450 that is in fact how tail gunners work yes
I wish they went harder with the multiverse. Like the way the world looks around you. Such as buildings or entire cities can be gone or destroyed looking or even blended together with other cities. Or even let us beable to traverse back and forth between universes like that one mission.
I think they should have made all the quests line mutually exclusive with an opposing one, such as UC or FC, Crimson or SEC, an a different, opposing arch for Ryujin. Then within these alternate universes mix certain quest conditions based on being different characters. Such as a version of ryujin where Imod was the spy. Or a version of FC where guy is innocent. It would give you more reason to enter another universe. At least to play each faction, and then even playing the same faction might get you a different flavor of the same overall quest.
Unfortunately, this is typical of recent Bethsoft games. Set up a good premise and fumble it. Look at Skyrim. It was supposed to be the end of the world; Alduin did not seem remotely that powerful or frightening. The weather didn't worsen over time, no cities were really destroyed by the dragons (what were they doing, playing spades? Getting pedicures?). Nothing -changed-, no matter where you were in the storyline. They applied that formula to Starfield, only their 'First New IP In Decades'(tm) didn't have any of the background that TES did to cover over and diffuse the oops.
That would mean bethesda would make a good game with deep gameplay, but they can't commit to anything.
@@wesleybeaverRecent? My guy. This is the first one they've made since fallout 4 everything else has been other studios they publish.
@@thegoldenatlas753 not true! after fallout 4 they made the skyrim re-release. and then the skyrim re-release. we can't forget about the skyrim re-release. oh, or the skyrim re-release. then there's the skyrim re-release. (this is a sarcastic and somewhat annoyed joke about how they KEEP FUCKING RE-RELEASING SKYRIM)
The one that I find the saddest is Vasco being by himself, and for some reason thinking he needs to just stand there. No way buddy! Come on! We're going exploring!
I find Cora's version weird. She's smarter than that. She knows full well that killing random You's who helped and protected her father regularly and often is straight wrong. Sam and her mother raised her better than that. Then I remember she isn't the Cora you knew. lol
There is a version of the Cora NG+ that if you don't let Sam die in any playthrough you get another dialogue option where she's like "I got the wrong you? Dammit, here just take the artifacts and go"
Rage is a hell of an anesthetic.
Yeah that one upset me too :(
I hate how the game has some fairly interesting narrative elements with the starborn; these groups of superhumans chasing the artifacts without really knowing why, hoping something will eventually change, having turned callous by the infinite nature of the multiverse. You get to see a bunch of different perspectives on their situation, from those obsessed with the grind like the hunter, to those that give it up and try to build something like the sanctum. And yet at the end of the game, you just kinda...join the ratrace? leave everything behind to chase artifacts endlessly for no real reason. This immense narrative space is just taken up by offhand jokes, as you effectively become just another mindless starborn drone stuck in the maze
Eh, I assume the DLC will expand upon this idea
I mean isn't it up to the player to choose whether to join the ratrace or not lol
@@NightDany16 technically yeah, you can just chose not to ever finish the main quest, but in that case you just get greeted by...nothing
Jesus fuck why doesn't anyone seem to get the damn point of the story? Its a build up to a choice.
More power and loose all you have, or gain nothing and loose nothing.
It is a gamble. It is a dilemma. There is no right answer because it hinges entirely on *your* self. How do you feel. Literally every character we see leading up to the choice is a possibility, of what you become. Callous? Settle down? Choose not to go? Its all right there laying out for you. Yet somehow everyone seems completely incapable of making basic connections, would you like a fucking arrow pointing at the point? Im so tired of the endless drabble "there's no point to ng+" "you loose everything in ng+" Yea that's the damn point.
@@doctorgrubious7725”the story we paid money to experience will finish telling itself when we pay more moneyyyyyyy!!!”
The first one is probably the universe to stay in forever. I wonder if the other you have alot of dialogue if you have him as a follower
Sadly no. Only the main constellation companions have quest specific remarks.
He does have dialog, if you ask him questions, he will ask you questions as well. But its pretty limited. There is no relationship or quest though. I def wanted to marry myself. There is a lot of dialogue quips while combat and getting each other though that make it a lot of fun, when transferring gear, to yourself. Its the only alt universe that has an effect outside the lodge. I do wish they would have added some reactions in the other quests to your twin.
@@DuxGaltthat would take narcissism to a new level. Marrying yourself, if they included it.
If you have the perk that gives you parents they treat you like their child and ignore the other you entirely even when he is in the room. It's shortsighted in my opinion.
@@KiloGames I agree. Some of the dialog actually referes to how close you are with your parents and it would be interesting have seen that interaction. Even if small. However the game does have like 130k dialog clips so maybe asking for a dozen more is too much.
Honestly I think with a concept like this infinite universe thing, The game felt small and limited.
"Wiggle your leaves if you understand me" has me dying.
Fr 🤣🤣🤣
Having this be a main part of the game would have made it all so much more interesting. These small sections make me more interested in the game then the 100+ hours I put into the game
That potted plant universe had to have been a Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy reference
After seeing this I don't think I'll step into the next universe again, one ng+ is enough for me.
I even felt quite empty after I entered the first unity and loaded up my old save game after 1hour ng+
@@spitymaeh same here
@@spitymaehThe emptiness I felt seeing my 1.5mill creds, outposts and crap ton of resources disappear far outweighed the excitement I felt when I got the starborn ship and armour.
Nope won’t be touching NG until specific DLC gives better reason to. Poorly thought out story with the main story and borestellation it’s like they’ve encouraged the game to be used by streamers and those with no attention span to rush to NG+ for no reason having to restart outposts and gaining money again is a grind if you skip the fetch quests in NG+ the only advantage is your piloting skill level once you’ve remade enough money you can rebuild your custom ship. The “reward” for NG is a slap in the face too the starborn ship isn’t that great even fully upgraded at NG+6 and the starborn armor maxes out at NG+10 and is worst than a standard 3 set legendary armors with helmet,pack and armor lol not worth the effort to do it to have dragon shouts in space. I just restart with a new build like we all did with Skyrim.
Shattered Space DLC better have a damn better storyline to it than the failure that was constellations otherwise can safely call it the flop of the year even with the sales at early access.
The warning signs were sadly there with it being exclusively available in gamepass at launch lol
@@ZSA929 NG+10 makes more sense now
The one where the other you murdered all the member Bethesda knows their players and knows its something we’d want to do😂
Now I have to keep playing until I get to shoot Cora Coe, I mean it's not that I hate her...well ok, it is that I hate her.
5 minutes in and I can't stop laughing. This is a huge spoiler, seeing as I'm only first level NG+ but definitely looks like something I should pursue. Thanks
same here, I just ng'd or unity'd or whatever last night, had no idea any of these could happen. is the first one always the one where you walk in and everyone says you disappeared until now?
@@11er33.you can get any of these but they’re jokes. You can’t open the inventory apart from a few of these and you’re intended to just die and revert to your last auto save before the Unity.
@@tecnoguy1136 bruh the inventory thing is a bug. It isn't supposed to happen.
@@tecnoguy1136 me when i spread misinformation on the internet:
I would.guess after the meeting the rest of the boring running around for artifacts is the same. I think just a video is good enough for me
I would love to see a universe of talking potted plants
Thank you for this!
I played the game the very first time and played not even half of my first NG+ before I got bored and uninstalled the game, lol.
I met the version of you where you had 500+ hours in game. You were kind of sickly but seemed happy.
Why would you ever uninstall.
I wish they had made the multiverse thing more of a part of the main game. I guess that's probably going to be in the DLC thoughj
The multiverses in this game are confusing. Like Hunter saying "Hello Again". Have you met that version of the Hunter? Also Walter knowing what time you were going to show up at the Lodge. Why do you always start at the end of Vectera? Where and when do the other Starborn arrive in other universes? In the universe with all yourselves, why are they hanging out at the lodge, and not getting artifacts? Do they retire to that universe or come with you? Cora's dad lives in an infinite number of Universes, so why is she getting revenge for her universe?
The canon version of Cora in my head is that she only appears to starborns who let Sam die in their original universe, and she IS the same cora that doesnt want to talk with us anymore. She got older, found the unity too and has been jumping universes until she finds the specific same one from her universe.
Cora's dad is dead. The others are versions of him but not him. It's not her universe. I'm guessing we start over Vectera because that's where the story originally began. And most times everyone is at the lodge because we always crash a big meeting they were having about obtaining the artifacts.
i think it is... all a simulation.
@@sjmuhammad19I've been to 6+ universes, and sam died in none of them. In the multiverse, there is both an unlimited amount where he lives, and an unlimited amount where he dies. It makes zero sense to get infinite revenge just because you are unlucky in your universe. Just find a universe where Sam lives, but you died.
The jumps are guided by Unity, you start in Vect because that is where your story started and Unity knows that's where you need to be.
The same is true of Walter, Cora, and the other Yous. They end up in the time and place Unity needs then to be ... probably because "You You" are actually special as the Hunter thinks you are since you entering Unity is causing ripples throughout the Multiverse.
Because something to consider is that there is an infinity between 2 and 3 but you'll never find a 4, at least until you first entered Unity.
This is legit the only interesting thing I've seen about this game. It is quite cool and I wonder how much this affects.
It's pretty much just the lodge and companion choices. Everything unrelated to Constellation stays the exact same. So, most of these actually have LESS content then the base game, because you lose companion quests and the like.
@@TheZombieMackso you telling me
The game tried to pull a no mans sky galaxy reset, and *also managed to fuckup by not reseting but 2 things*?
@@molassesman4066 Exactly. It's No Man's Sky at Home (and released 7 years LATER than No Man's Sky, too)
@@higueraft571 NMS, the game that took 5 YEARS to improve a complete FLOP into something slightly less disappointing. Very fitting comparison. Well done.
@@Kris.G HAVE you actually played it?
>into something slightly less disappointing.
So what *exactly* sold you on it to begin with in 2016, that you were disappointed by the lack of, which is apparently still lacking today?
Do you even LIKE games like NMS to begin with?
Or is this like me reviewing LoL, Dota, TF2, or Slay the Spire or such? (games i dont like and have 0 interest in as far as gameplay goes)
I'm glad they added direct lines from the writing room by giving them to the children constellation.
Fun fact: Mc is voiced by Heimdall and the Child 14:50 is voiced by Atreus from GOW Ragnarok.
This is kinda neat....for the 4 people that played Starfield in NG+...
Thanks for saving me the hassle of playing this game that long to see this content.
This is probably the most interesting part of the game, and it's still just infinitely mundane boredom.
"I'm not cut out for this!"
"Yes you are."
"Okay, I guess I am."
who knows you better than yourself?
I literally got one where that universe version of me was killed by the fleet which made things awkward
It's a shame that Constellation is the only thing that is different in the alternate timelines. Would be pretty funny to also have every random NPC out in Atlantis also be you, or a potted plant or everyone be Va'ruun out to kill you etc.
Also missed opportunity just to have "Loner you" just in the darker corner just STARING you down in silence.
People complain about the lack of effort in this game, but the amount of random variation and content that is in the game, that most people would never see, is far more than even Skyrim.
Thanks for this, relieved I won’t have to break character to see everything the game has to offer. There is absolutely no reason to enter the Unity if you got married. Big fail by Bethesda that you can’t bring your ship and crew.
You mean i CANNOT BRING crew you to meet the constellation yous
Suddenly im glad this game runs like shit
This sort of thing makes me feel like Starfield isn’t just corporate slop. It feels almost worse, in a way? There was an idea and some passion but it just became… something.
Go to your parents “ mom dad I’m a narcissist! I’m marrying myself!”
I'm finally going through NG+, and I must say, what Bethesda did is just genius.
Everyone was murdered... well that is going to make the game a little more interesting.
in these special universes, Bethesda didn't want players to stick around so they disabled saving. If you're on PC, use console command "setinchargen 0 0 0" to re-enable saving, then you can stay there.
If only it impacted anything besides the first entrence to the lodge :(
@@Ispendwaytoomuchtimescrolling wish it did. Like you would have to track down and find the pieces themselves.
Have to rebuild Constellation, or find another group to help you out.
@@cyberpawzbut they would need to put effort in for that
I’m not going through any NG+ playthroughs. I just don’t like the multiverse theory. I want to explore just one universe and get it to 100%. Besides this, I am married to Sarah and don’t want to leave her behind 😅
Well, you can just marry other universe Sarah 😂
In my first universe, I married Sarah, but she died…then I “married” Andreja to cope. Definite downgrade, so I bounced to 10 universes later and am jaded af like the Hunter
I married Sarah 4 times. Already in different universes
The problem with that is it’s crap design and writing even Sarah if you romance her admits she eventually will go through the unity for she feels the curiousity towards it eventually will get the better of her and the MC. I think honestly the whole NG+ and multiverse wasn’t needed it’s Skyrim dragon shouts in space with no real reward outside of random chance for the alternate intros at the lodge.
I’m close to finishing the main story but honestly seeing the fact multiple people have tortured themselves with even bothering to try Ng+ I feel the game would’ve been better without the whole constellation faction and multiverse rubbish thrown in to try to keep players in game till elder scrolls 6 but if this the new quality of writing it’s a warning sign of what is going to be bad with Elder scrolls next instalment. I can’t be the only one who felt the vanguard questline felt more like the main story, constellations felt like just one big massive side quest.
@@Deafmandalorall the side quests felt like they could’ve been expanded on and made into their own game but ironically the main story was the most lacking by far. Literally just run to a planet, collect a rock, fight a super powered being or two, then dip. My favorite is when you get to a temple that’s supposed to be all mystical and no one’s ever heard of it yet you see civilian space craft landing 500 meters away or a building in clear eyeshot 😂
She died in my first universe and I'm struggling to love her again in the 2nd universe.
My first one was the one where they were all different versions of you. My first thought was "IM GOING TO ROMANCE ALL OF YOU"
So these tiny easter eggs are your reward for trudging through hundreds of hours
Trudging? The game is fun so not trudging.
@@TheParagonIsDead its only fun if you have either no clue about good game design or this is one of your first games ever
@@MrWabaki not really, it’s fun for me.
It's too bad the game wasn't just a little more fun. It would have been neat to see this happen.
No, no, Noel is there to buy my Quark Degenerative Tissues for nearly a 1,000 credits a pop. She also talks about my brainwave activity. Although, I wouldn't necessarily mind a universe where Sarah Morgan was a potted plant... Evil me has to die a horrible death for doing that to Barrett though. You do NOT kill the guy that boosts your Particle Beam weapons. He even gives you tacos! Monster! Psychopath! He's getting forcefully rendered into quantum energy for that.
Well, now (discovered, not added) there’s an 11th outcome from NG + after you beat it the 33rd time; you meet yourself that beat the game the first time and confirms it is you and knows the multiverse. Not the same as the one where there’s multiple of you either.
Well, nobody found this on account of the fact you have to go through the game 33 TIMES.
The kid one makes sense given who thr hunter actually is though. It's basically Sunday school in the settled systems lol.
Really wish there was a universe where you could find your spouse as star born or find them as a random encounter
judjing by the name, the DLC will most likely be related to this alternate universe / NG+ content, so it would be cool if they made it where, if you choose to stay in your original universe, you can encounter other versions of yourself / starborn who came to YOUR universe.
Honestly this presents a much more interesting storyline:
What if all these events happened while you were actively playing? You find the first piece in the mines and as you play things slowly get weirder. Cities change, an evil version of you starts running around, characters die and come back in the blink of an eye. Your universe is falling into chaos as dozens of others merge into it, and everyone is after the same thing: the artifacts that could be used to stop the madness... too bad your universe is the only one with a complete set and everyone else is there to grab them.
Sigh... instead we got the generic loading simulator they churned out.
Eu não concordo contigo, da maneira que você falou ia ser toda vez esse cenário macante, já do jeito que é em uma jogatina eu posso jogar na crinsom fleet, em outra na uc, resolvendo o problema do fallout 4 em que você pode ser o líder supremo de todas as facções juntas
? No.
Thanks for this.
No way I was going to do another artifact/temple/power grind.
Didn’t even bother finishing my first NG+.
The one with all the versions of you from the faction quests is hilarious! 😆😆😆
so there are 2 versions with Starborn Cora, one where you caused Sam to die and one where you saved Sam. If Sam survived she lets you go.
Ok now I gotta find the "multiple you" universe. Ive always wanted to have a place full of "me"
The real question is: can you romance yourself?
Should only be allowed for female on female actions
@@Cam-im8io? Bro what
@@Cam-im8io I’m good I only want sex with men
@@Cam-im8io
Average reader of harem manga be like
i too second this; it would be a possibility in some universe
dang these are so cool. they really should have leaned more into this. like, make the first playthrough random and not just the NG+...
So does anything happen in the Va'ruun universe if you're actually also a cultist?
The interesting part about being a cultist is you’re not actually a cultist. You follow the religion but you weren’t born of House Va’ruun and are therefore not of the people and not protected by the Great Serpent. Made me really wonder what the point of being a follower of the religion was. They’d probably still try to kill you after an extra dialogue step where you try to argue that you’re a follower of their religion.
I haven’t done that NG+ but when you romance Andreja with the Va’ruun trait she still has all of the same dialogue about how when the Great Serpent comes you will die and how that’s hard for her to reconcile, even after she knows you have that trait. The main benefit of the trait is a few times during the main story and the extra benefits from grav jumping.
That was awesome to watch. Thank you.
The multiverse. Also known as "how to eliminate all meaning in your story because nothing matters".
Good thing Bethesda is unable to write compelling characters and stories that will stay with you in the first place. Now they've written themselves in a corner.
I've done like 12 NG+ now and I only ever get the normal universe, or the one with multiple me's
Just bad luck. I've got the evil Andreja one twice in a row.
It has a 15% chance for 1 of the 10 alternate universes to appear for you
I got lucky and got the grown-up Cora universe and the universe with 2 versions of me within 10 Unities
I'm on NG+7, and every universe is the same, but I'm okay with that because this looks stupid af.
Just getting myself to +10 then I'm going to do all the side missions and actually play the damn game...
@@WIZSEGAMING 15% chance for any alternate at all (after which it randomly picks from the 10). But that only starts after the 2nd, so you only have 3-7 as potential alternates. So just over 1 in 7 chance, and you've only had 5 rolls of that die. They really should guarantee the 3rd one is an alternate before making it random chance, just so you can see the exist, and then have the future odds increase every time you get the vanilla universe in a row. I would just make it additive, so by the 6th vanilla in a row you have 90% chance and then the 7th is guaranteed since it would be 105%. Otherwise you are going to have many people who get 20-30 or more without ever seeing one, just because streaks are not uncommon in small sets.
@masondeross
I'm good, the alternate realities seems stupid af.
Just let me get to 10 and then I can actually play the whole game.
Wow, Bethesda got something right, on that last one Noel is excited her hypothesis was shattered. That's a scientist.
I wonder what would happen if you used an EM weapon to stun, loot/pickpocket then just leave them alive vs killing them. You get all the artifacts but they aren't dead - especially doing that to yourself.
it's interesting to see that. I did 15 rounds and it was always the same, but on the third round there was a flower pot and I couldn't save the game and had to cancel. I wonder why the Trigger is to change the Realitiy.
15 times?
Jesus, get a life, like seriously
Happened to me too! I couldn't save or access inventory or anything. Horrible bug, happened to me a bunch
A bit late but if that's happening to you, you can try to tab out of the game, that will usually open the menu where you can save and load old saves. Worked for me..
I don't play Starfield anymore, but this Bug is fixed.
Coras ending was beyond sad. This was the first time I've seen it. Thanks for the video
The one of multiple versions of you has me rolling lol
I've been through 6 NG+ and they were all the same! I didn't even know there could be different ones... I feel jipped
I think they kind of missed an opportunity on a few of those openings. Like the one when you meet your evil self and having to chase him down while having the different factions hunting you for all the things he did, or the one when you meet your younger self making romance weird cause your parent doesn’t know who’s who or you and your younger self calling each other brothers because it’s easier, or in the one where all of constellation retired you have to try to get the band back together as it were while the hunter was trying to kill them.
Just so many ways to make the game better and more replayable.
The evil self should have been the twist in the main game. Would give the game a proper antagonist.
It's sad how there weren't more variations. Like, even subtle ones. Like new floor boards, or Andreja being blonde, or United Colonies being called something different.
They did way too little with this.
Introducing MU in the start feels it removes a lot of consequences.
It would have been fun if the worlds were different, maybe in one universe one of your companions could have been a leader and kept some of the systems as a police state etc.
I think it is a bit of a shame
This was my favorite part about going in totally blind, first multiverse I hit was like so odd to me, especially seeing as Bethesda isn’t known for any kind of NG+. Definitely a funny surprise.
The two choices for yourself were follow me or follow me. Who said there’s no choice
I wish you could team up with the evil you he would be perfect for a kill run
I feel that in the universe with those kids pretending to be constellation, the original members went through so much that they left and note and the artifacts to avoid the headaches of dealing with starborn… crazy
thank u so much for making this
Nightmare Sequence/Joke Gameplay of NG+ is definitely the “Multiple Versions of You in the lodge” but the Canon, to me atleast, is definitely meeting yourself and recruiting yourself
Ok this sparked a bit of my interest into NG+ because after first run I was a bit disheartened.
I will just keep my "real save" on retainer and pretend any NG+ I encounter never actually happened. I want bethesda to release an update to add more closure to a Only OG universe option. Or at least a way to return to your original universe.
I picture a universe where if you pick Kid Stuff your parents become starborn after you died in their universe.
so, are all the other new games +'s just resetting the main story with the exception of these unique ones that you can get randomly? Is there a way to get back to your original "world" of sorts or is it legit considered a one way trip? Outside of a few items you supposedly get when you do NG+ are there any other things that change like higher leveled planets or stronger gear?
"Outside of a few items you supposedly get when you do NG+ are there any other things that change like higher leveled planets or stronger gear?"
The named weapons levelscale when crossing, and I think you get different versions of the starborn suit, that's pretty much it I think
"Good you're finally awake not even last night's storm could wake you..."
All video is telling me is.. get a gun before you enter the lodge the first time lol
Maybe if Bethesda had not spent ridiculous time building up these different timelines just to make a gimmick for ng+ to look cool and focused on improving a single playthrough, this game would have been great....perfect case of past successes going to your head and thinking you dont have to improve anything
The andreja one makes me sad I pick her every playthrough
My last universe playthrough I faced off against myself as a starborn. It was crazy!!!! I was ridin solo and loved it, the crimson fleet quest tho had a glitch/bug in it and I couldnt complete it :-/ jumped universes and now Im playing it normally. I really like the other variants.
When you destroy constellation, and in an other universe found yourself destroying it before you arrived. Karma at its best.
I've finished 8 different playthroughs and never once got an alternate universe. Thanks RNGeesus.
The New Game Plus in Starfield is getting more awesome and tragic at the same time. I blame Rick and Morty for all this, they messed up realities and dimensions so severe that Starfield is starting to follow their footsteps every time you enter the unity to a different reality.
I'm definitely buying my own copy.
They need another random start where you got both the hunter and psychotic you working together. 1. You see the aftermath and 2. You happen to be there before the duo.
Somebody at Bethesda should of watched Stein's Gate or something. Most of these NG+ are basic or are just killing X person to get all the artifacts in one go. Like we couldn't get a universe where the Crimson Fleet is more Robin Hood like or maybe a force for good? Maybe the colony war is still ongoing in one universe or about to start again. Maybe there's a universe where the grav drive incident never happened and the only planet with human life on it is still Earth, and the few other planets they could travel to before the grav drives. Like for a concept with limitless potential they didn't even bothering tapping into it.
-Meeting yourself and making yourself a companion is interesting, but basic.
-The one where you meet multiple versions of yourself would be better if you could make them companions, finally having some none good natured followers or even reference Rick and Morty and how they want to band together with multiple versions of you to rule the multiverse, giving them all a common goal. Maybe a quest to track down other starborn yous that exist in the universe and that's how you get the artifacts again.
-It would be good if you could convince Cora in the universe you meet her to join forces. I understand your dad died, but just because one of me is a psychopath doesn't mean they all are and deserve death. You could do this with the other multiverses where you just end up killing people too. Have the Hunter, Emissary, or other characters be your sole companion with a different outlook then the main world line.
The fact you can make your self a companion is hilarious.
That would be an ultimate mind fuçƙ
The basic idea of the cyclic universe is pretty good, what it lacks is the execution.
A good way to improve starfield, would be to just add a ton more of these differences in NG+ games. Of course, it still need much more than that.
I haven't gotten most of these alternate realities. I got the all me, I've gotten the kids twice, and I've had the one that you can't access your inventory. After NG+ 10, that's it.
Once you get to NG+10, are you still able to jump to new universes, or are you forever locked in that +10? (still in +3... currently on Evil mode and being a Pirate, lol)
@@Iluvantir yeah, you can keep going. But your suit’s perks will have a random, different set of bonuses.
This is actually a really cool concept, that almost no-one will see because no-one will play through it enough times. As with so much Bethesda stuff, they have great ideas that are only half baked in implementation.
the “you” only constellation almost makes me wanna play it again that it something man
Hunter (knowing fully well you can best him in combat) (before you talk to him)"oh crap it's THAT version"
This is by and far the most interesting part of this game. There’s always that one guy in the room that has this wild idea and I guess they decided to throw him a bone for once.
Maybe we’ll see something like this in fallout 5.