Two completely different forms of racing, no issue in fans enjoying both, or one over the other. You would think people within the sport would understand that.
RealRadman you and David Land, and DoubleEdud should all get all the NASCAR TH-camrs togeather and start a “Fix NASCAR” Movement, and get them to hear you.
RealRadman well I mean like every else says about the media. It's all blown out of proportion and since racing isn't as fun as what it used to be, they have to bring in a little bit of WWE drama and make things sizzle to get attention.
Andrew Romanski NASCAR won't care what you say unless you're partnered with them like Monster Energy or even when Sprint was here. It's usually the entitlement sponsor who throws out ideas to NASCAR and they aren't going to go on TH-cam to look for help.
Have to agree, it is not a zero sum game ... If you enjoy it then it is good. I'm a 50 year old Brit and grew up with F1, but have watched NASCAR for a few decades. I enjoy a lot of motor sports but my favourite is touring cars. I'm also in love with the Isles Of Man TT and hill climbing. I think, in general, the problem is down to sponsorship .... It seems to me that there is a big battle in a lot of motor sport between the sponsors that have a lot of money to develop the technology, the fans that want to see close battles and the regulatory bodies that are trying to appease both sides. Sorry about that, was a whisky night :)
Plum_Crazy 1992 I’m not saying that either are easy, I respect the hell out of both sports. Both have their own different aspects and pitfalls, but it’s impossible to compare an apple and a banana as if they were the same.
I have no idea why FOX would bring F1 into this. If they feel NASCAR is going backwards, why attack a different form of motorsport by essentially saying, "Look. They are way worse than us and are still popular"? It makes them sound petty and desperate. I have never heard an F1 pundit mention any other form of motorsport in such a negative way. When the unfortunate incident with the Ferrari crew member happened this season, the general talk was "Do we have too many pit-crew members? Should we use 6-man pit-crews like they do in IndyCar and NASCAR for better safety?" Hell, when the resistance against the halo was at its highest, F1 fans and pundits were praising IndyCar for trying out the glass-windshield concept and having a successful test with it.
i Think the Big Thing why F1 Didnt Closed Pit Road Or Put the Safety Car not the VR Safety Car Out They Had A Injured Crew Guy is what Regan and Kenny was Meaning
Leave the F1 comparison for Indycar because they are the same form of racing. The Smith comment was one of the dumbest comparisons I have ever seen. People love F1 because of the technology of the cars and the iconic teams in Ferarri, Mercedes, etc. They don't really need good racing because of that factor. Nascar has become garbage, not F1.
David Land Yeah, and also, in NASCAR, do we see any actually REALLY exciting racing besides a slightly exciting Daytona 500. If you really want a comparison to F1, try Indycar? Or maybe IMSA?
Lack of perspective and ignorance as usual from Regan. NASCAR media is also out of touch with their own sport so any comments on another are always an embarrassment
I always assumed anyone who compared NASCAR and F1 were always misinformed at best and very stupid at worst. It doesn't take a genius to see they both have a rightful place and role to play in Motorsport.
As a fan of racing in general, I can honestly say I've tried to get into F1 and I just can't. I don't enjoy it. However, that's me. I agree with you, NASCAR and F1 (as well as other forms of auto racing) all have their place and can coexist. If someone likes F1, good on them. If someone likes NASCAR, good on them, too.
@@duckway4733 it's just wholly uninteresting racing at this point. I used to love watching for the tech and the raw power of the cars and of course the sound. I feel that the move to more and more hybrid tech made it impossible for the smaller teams to keep up. It also removed 2 of the reasons I watched f1 in the first place.
Preach it brother. Also, 50% of the reason why I watch F1 is for the tech. And yes, the results are relatively predictable (merc ferrari redbull in the front etc.) but when you get a back marker or midfield car racing above its "class" it's a massive surprise and you root for them.
Comparing Nascar to F1 is like comparing the NFL to the FIFA World Cup. They're almost completely different and unique in their own ways, and the only thing they have in common is what the sport is called (football or Motorsports)
Call me crazy, but I believe this is ploy from Fox in order to "persuade" NASCAR fans that gimmicky racing is in fact 'real racing'. It's not the first time that Fox or NBC (to some extent) orchestrated a smeer campaign on who ever poses a threat or criticises the product. Makes you wonder over who is wearing the pants at NASCAR HQ when it comes to guiding the direction of the sport.
Which is kind of ironic, since NASCAR doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to the whole gimmick argument. They have been pushing out more gimmicks to try and steal fans that would like the F1 style of racing than arguably F1 has in recent times with crap like the caution clock, overtime lap, and segmented races.
Chiko Roll /\ This. NASCAR will never admit when they make a bug mistake from something they've hyped but will do everything they can to make it look like their s#)@ don't stink. Kind of like what happened with the CoT.
I don't think NASCAR has a prayer when it comes to stealing F1 fans. I have been trying to get into NASCAR off my own back lately and just can't get into it. Same with the Indy Car Racing. Oval racing along with the length of the races just bores the fuck out of me. I also think you have too many cars and with me not being familiar its very hard to understand what is going on in the middle/back of the pack I prefer drag racing to oval circuits. You have some amazing circuits over there as well, Leguna Seca being one of my favourite tracks in the world
The Nascar vs F1 lunacy needs to stop. They're two completely different types of motorsport and always have been. The cars can not be more different. Some people are strictly NASCAR fans because they only care for that style of racing. The NASCAR fans that don't like other motorsports, but have given them a complete and honest chance should not be confused with the NASCAR fans that simply dislike other motorsports because they're different. Some people are strictly F1 fans for the same reason, and the same critea applies. However, there are some "racing purests" out there that just love racing and enjoy motorsport for what it is. That's where I, and many others fall. (From my IG post)
Well you can thank Tony George for people thinking NASCAR is like F1. F1 was not going good in the early 90s and INDYCAR/CART was better. Then Tony George did his 25/8 power play in 1996 at the INDY 500 and killed all the momentum INDYCAR had.
heroic_sports I just respect all forms of racing cuz I know I can't meet that kind of skill. I think I'm a good driver and will occasionally throw some extra speed into a corner, but I'm nowhere near the skill of a racing driver. Everyone just needs to chill XD
Breavin 777 Every racing motorsport is awesome, I prefer Aussie V8's, NASCAR, and Stadium Super Trucks over other motoraports but that doesn't make them bad.
By the sounds of it you have a couple of commentators sounding off. To me F1 has always been and done its own thing. You never hear commentators of F1 comparing the two. I don't know what its like over there but nearly all of the British commentators are ex F1 drivers and I very much doubt any one of them are going to compare the two.
You have to respect each level of motorsports for what they are. Whether its Nascar, F1, Indycar, NHRA, IMSA, WEC, Supercross, and others. Don't bash on another series unless you know what the series is about. Regan's comments were uncalled for and disrespectful in my opinion and Nascar was the first racing series I started watching. I've learned to respect, follow and watch other form of motorsports. Regan probably should too.
True story. I'm not huge fan of NASCAR but when I saw footage of NASCAR on TV I would still watch it because it's a Motorsport. Though my favourite would still be Autocross. Agile and fast!! (/>~
Sam Seaver yet years ago they said that they were the real sport and not a stick and ball sport but now they are trying to make a race like a stick and ball sport with quarters or periods like in NHL,NBA,NFL and MLB.
Stages makes dominating most the race then losing to a last lap pass more worth it instead of them not trying till the last lap. If they race for those xtra points it will be more entertaining because they’re trying to get those points.
I have never been a fan of F1, it never clicked for me but I respect it as an incredibly difficult form of racing that requires an immense amount of talent. I think one of the biggest factors in why people want to bash each other over it is the difference in fans. NASCAR fans are almost completely American compared to F1 which is more worldwide and has a heavy European base. The difference in racing, sports, entertainment, and just overall culture can not be overlooked when talking about this. As for Regan Smith, you're a failed NASCAR driver who's claim to fame is that Dale Jr. hired you for NASCAR's AAA league. Sometimes the truth hurts. Think about it.
@@w.kfontaine7084 you’re a fucking moron lmao. They race at 7 road courses, a dirt track, and a triangle on top of the ovals. At least we don’t have 3 drivers total who actually win races every year. The racing is actually competitive, but you wouldn’t know that.
F1 has a 2 hour time limit on every race, so they cannot extend beyond a set period of time, regardless of whether the race reaches its lap limit or not
F1 is actually either 305km or 2 hours whichever comes first. So, Monaco works out around 260km due to the lower lap time. There is an overall time limit for the event to minimize the maximum time on a race day.
The Legend 30 2 hours of racing (Green flag and SC periods), and a total of 4 hours with red flags. Whichever comes first if all laps have not been completed
My perspective of Regan has changed drastically now. The recent Bahrain GP was anything but *"GARBAGE"* a three wide battle for position early in the race with Hulkenburg, Ocon, and Hamilton. Plus, there was an excellent battle towards the end with Valtteri Bottas and Seb Vettel. Regan is absolutely *WRONG.*
It's stupid to compare them. Compare Indy to F1 perhaps and NASCAR to Aussie V8's but you simply cannot compare tin tops with open wheels, ever. I'm in the UK and enjoy all of them, honestly I do and can appreciate the different skill set needed. In NASCAR it's not so much 'skill' as it is 'feel' and guts, the best NASCAR drivers have the ability to feel how long the can hold that line, they have the guts to keep that throttle down further than the car next to them, in F1 it's more about the skill to hit that apex to half an inch every lap, to hit the anchors at the latest and best possible moment every corner. What I *really* don't understand is the entire 'fanboy' attitude of irrational hate or defence of their preferred series/driver/team/track/oatmeal/toilet brush......etc. - Watch what you enjoy. - Don't watch what you don't enjoy. - If you can't manage that, shut the hell up and go watch golf. Sidenote: Recently started this channel and would appreciate some support if anyone has a few minutes spare, it'll help me move forward and improve (which I really need to do but a channel is a lot of effort when you work 60 hours a week lol) Thanks in advance if anyone has the time.
Jonty's Corner Not bashing on NASCAR. Ive watched a few clips on it and what i dont understand is how its possible to lead until the 2nd placer spins you out while taking a few other cars with you. It seems that no matter how much skill you possess in NASCAR, a simple tap on the rear can drown you
NASCAR's race cars are very low on downforce and surprisingly undertired too. The things are heavy and unwieldy (by design) and are driven at the absolute edge of control as that is the fastest way around the track. They are unstable as heck at speed and very prone to oversteer. Spinning another driver out by getting into the back end is definitely considered bad form, but a "bump and run" where the guy in front is nudged and slides up the track (in an oval where there are the large and usually banked corners at each end of the track with room for the poor sap to recover without hitting the wall) is perfectly acceptable. Very different from Formula 1 where the cars have high downforce, a lighter car, and wider tires in relation to the weight of that car. They get loose too, but when they do the cars are so quick to get sideways. I don't care what the talking head feckwits say about either sport, because I love to watch them both!
Well if anything, NASCAR fans only pay attention to Daytona, Talladega, short tracks, road courses and whatever their hometrack is. NASCAR needs to be their own thing instead of trying to compete worldwide. I mean in America, we rarely hear about touring cars, DTM and V8 Supercars. NASCAR needs to remain in America and try to stay away from Formula 1. Not to mention, Indycar has been better than both series anyway.
MrKyleBusch1 I tune into every race. I quit watching when NASCAR media start going nuts over Kyle Busch taking the lead. Or a Toyota period. But if it’s a ford or Chevy they are like well let’s see what Kyle is doing or Eric Jones or Hamlin. They don’t even care bout Chase, Byron or others not in a Toyota.
Michael Rogers Well here is the thing about that. You really do not hear anything about Chase Elliott or William Byron during the race. Those driver come out towards the end since they are not chargers. Hamlin, Busch, Truex and Jones are drivers who try to lead the laps and if anything this year, they been paying more attention to the Fords more than the Toyotas specifically Harvick, Bowyer, Kurt Busch, Joey Logano, Ryan Blaney and Brad Keselowski. Even Kyle Larson they talk a lot about as well because they try to lead every single lap. Chase Elliott really just hangs around in 9th the whole race and sort of seems to settle in. William Byron still has some work to do, but the Chevys are not good this year.
I find formula 1 alot more better! But don't get me wrong DTM and V8 supercars are incredibly exciting too! for me touring cars will always be a close second to formula 1! I really do enjoy V8 supercars and me being an australian i do always get the chance to watch this series! Touring cars in my opinion are still aren't as good as formula 1 but is wayyyyyyy better than NASCAR and IndyCar.
Random Animations Regan Smith was the one throwing shade at F1 this time. The thing that gets me is, of all the motorsports to compare NASCAR to, F1 is random as hell.
Because you're either an idiot or you're intelligent. Intelligent people will not find any entertainment value from watching cars drive in an oval for 5 hours. The only entertaining thing that happens is when drivers get mad and intentionally wreck others. Not surprisingly, when drivers do this, they face zero negative repercussions. That's not racing - that's a joke.
To quote the great David Land, "the real competition is between Indycar and F1." F1 is more technical, eveeycar is different. The 3 or 4 teams running Renault are leagues apart. Same with the teams running Ferrari engines. NASCAR is closer, the drivers more down to earth, bug f1 was never like that. It was about pushing technology and punching speeds that are ludicrous. Sure that's what NASCAR started as, but it's not anymore. F1 is still what it started as. Arguably f1 is a more pure motor sport. They do have close finishes, Baku 2017 for example. NASCAR has more gimmicks , more same mess, less competition, less of a need to try and push faster speeds. The biggest issue for NASCAR is the fan base.
The answer to Kenny Wallace's question is that "NASCAR" promotes itself and every single race as an action packed extravaganza. Watch how they promote Bristol this week. Wrecks, fights, bumpin n bangin!! Come raceday none of it will happen. They do this for every race, then add in the playoff hype, Daytona 500, All-star race. Pull back on all the nostalgia, and create some new moments that aren't completely manufactured.
I've been watching nascar for 15 years, and honestly, Brian France had ruined the sport. The cars 2008 backward were good, but when the COT came out, it started the downward spiral to where it is today. And now, Indycar and F1 are my favorite motorsports. Nascar has fallen so far on my favorites that it's sad. I'm a proud American, but NASCAR has been ruined by the corporate heads of the sport and has chased away so many of the old fans that made it great to begin with.
NASCAR just needs to fix there problems and leave other series alone. Nascar should have shorter races and maybe a shorter season. Each track one race a year. We don’t need a two hour pre race and also don’t need daily content like NASCAR race hub witch is a joke anyway. Just my opinion!
Alien Gaming definitely tracks with two races get one. Each year different races in the Chase and still shorter races. And since I live in Iowa add a cup race there.
The reason that they are both looking for is simple: over here in Europe, F1 is at the top of a kind of racing that we’ve been bought up around. It’s in our blood. Hardly anyone knows what NASCAR is, and it’s very difficult finding a way of watching it here. Over in America, NASCAR sits at the top of a kind of racing you folks have been bought up around. F1 has a tiny, insignificant presence over there and despite many tries, it’s still not broken through. It’s a cultural thing. Two completely different products born out of two very different continents’ history with motor racing. You guys have the NFL and the MLB. We have the Premier League and cricket. And you know what? That’s cool. That’s how it should be. I like NASCAR because it’s basically feels like America on wheels. It’s cool seeing a series that identifies with its origins so well (although you can argue that’s been lost over time). I like F1 because it’s a technological marvel and the cars are absolutely mad... and because ever since I was a kid, it was forefront and centre on sports channels and in our media. I’ve grown up with it, through Senna to Schumacher and on from Alonso to Hamilton. If they are trying to shine a light on NASCAR by torching F1 then it’s utterly misguided. It’s like me blaming my shitty day at work on David eating a breakfast cereal I probably hate. F1 and NASCAR’s problems don’t relate in any way, shape or form and despite having four wheels and a driver, neither do the two sports as a whole. It’s that difference that should be celebrated, not thrown under some FOX-induced microscope for criticism.
Kiroquai th-cam.com/video/1M0J7RgZRCI/w-d-xo.html It sounds like fox sports got their talking points, does F1 suck and NASCAR is awesome? I m just asking? Why is F1 so popular? This sounds like fox saw the ratings from the races this weekend and went into defence mode. Sounds like another channel they own. Think about it. How are those no go zones in Europe we still hear about them? I have heard this kinda thing from Fox for my whole life.
Kiroquai I feel F1 is uniquely European, light fast cars that are nuanced and sophisticated. I also have to wake or stay up late on Sunday, next weekend I gotta be up at 1am to see the start well worth it.
SHEVYWOOD Not for everything, Daytona has the clash and duels while road courses have only two rounds Also it's not the only series to have F1 type qualy; IndyCar does a very slightly different version of it and I believe some touring car seriesdo as well
JumboJ99 and the v8 Supercars in Australia that we’re racing on the same weekend as the f1 in melbourne just done a qualifying thing an there last race of 3 rounds in a different way tho
Wow that really strikes a cord because I like F1 more than NASCAR. Sucks people are called F1 boring. Heck, the Bahrain GP was a pretty exciting race and lots of low end, not highly funded teams, were battling for point positions and a few like Marcus Erikson and Pierre Gasly had wonderful races and scored points.
X_mattc10_X Usually people call F1 boring cause in their season only like 5 different drivers win compared to around 10 in NASCAR. To appreciate F1 you have to focus on everything from backmarkers to the top guys at the front.
and perez got a podium in baku. and china was insane at the end heck alonso finished above vettel in a friggin mclaren. this season has been really great racing but we all know ferrari and merc and maybe RB will dominate till the next rule change. it will be interesting to see whos best when budget caps are implemented. pinnacle of motorsport thats why they get insane salaries
NASCAR needs the X-3 body and some more downforce so that there can be at least some good runs, passes, and dirty air is less of an issue. F1 needs less reliability on that front wing
ThatoneElliottfan9 So the car they have? That's what you just described. X-3 was designed to be less aero dependant, so you why are you adding aero to it?
@Ploke Newo78 were you not paying attention to the video its obvious the Americans were the first aggressors. Also if Europeans didn't exist neither would Americans
Ehhhh, F1 is more pissed off about the Halo. The halo from their perspective should be burned in a pit of fire from what I’ve seen. DRS is kind of looked upon as one of those things that isn’t leaving
Agreed. I feel its still needed because the dirty air now is horrible and its adds that extra little something. Besides it only came about because everyone put F ducts on their cars in 2010.
Jules N. They said it was temporary until they could find a better protection mechanism, which I interpreted as “deal with it it’s gonna be here a while”
In fairness, both NASCAR and F1 have gimmicks which should all be done away with. I consider the F1 qualifying format (which has been copied by NASCAR), and the DRS zones as a gimmick. NASCAR is full of gimmicks though, to the point where you can tell that the drivers no longer enjoy it and have been retiring in droves. Double wide restarts, green-white checkers, and segments, have completely eliminated the point of having long races. The elimination chase system eliminated the point of the long season. You no longer earn a NASCAR title by being fast over the course of the longest races, and most grueling schedule in racing, no. You win it by being good on restarts, and really lucky.
I don't get the hate on f1 for having unique and technologically advanced cars. They're built for speed. Not to sell cars like stock cars are. So weird to me for Regan to bash that aspect of it.
This makes about as much sense as NASCAR V.S. MONSTER JAM, Or NASCAR V.S. NHRA. The only things you can do to put the two up against each other is which Sport has Worse Stereotypes...
"the cars and the technology are something we could never dream to drive " Can you point me towards your pushrod v8 powered , rear wheel drive Ford fusion ? Or pushrod v8 powered , rear wheel drive Toyota Camry ? Oh that's right they are unobtainable vehicles , but this sport is pure right ? Only thing about NASCAR is that it's pure hillbilly trash
I probably shouldn't say this, but when I was a NASCAR fan about 20-25 years ago, I thought F1 was just a bunch of snooty Europeans, but now I just love it. I've started watching IndyCar because I followed Romain Grosjean over to it. I just can't get into NASCAR anymore. When I followed it, it was a different era. Now all those guys are gone. If they were still racing, I'm sure I would still be watching it. I went to the inaugural NASCAR race at COTA only because it's thirty minutes from my house. I left on the fifteenth lap. It was a bit unpleasant because it was raining, but I would have stayed if it hadn't been so boring. I realize, though, that it was a road course, and with the rain, too, it seemed like they were going so slow. But really, there is no sense in even trying to compare the two. F1 is in a class of it's own. The cars are like no other. I see IndyCar as being more about the drivers, but, as any F1 fan knows, F1 is a constructor's championship. The drivers are there to show off the cars. That's how I see it, anyway. So, I just appreciate each one for what it is, and enjoy them both.
I hate the closed mindedness of both sides of the fence F1 and NASCAR fans try to make each-other seem like they’re terrible where we should embrace both types of motorsports for what they are. Sure I’d like to see more f1 races in a year and would like that we could go into a weekend and not know who’s going to win Monaco. I’d like to watch nascar race around Suzuka again and see more road course races but that doesn’t make one better than the other it just gives each sport its differences
Kyle Grzech - Most NASCAR teams can't afford to race on any additional road courses. It costs a lot of money to fix a wrecked car and that's all NASCAR drivers do on real race tracks - they wreck. This is because NASCAR drivers, much like the majority of the fans, are simple-minded fools. They don't know what the center pedal is or what an apex is.
gypsykingg you realize you are proving my point of the closed mindedness aspect of fans. I’m assuming you’re either trolling or serious about this and like formula 1.
Kyle Grzech - Of course I'm serious and an F1 fan. This has nothing to do with being closed-minded - I'm simply stating what is fact. I've watched NASCAR, on ovals and road courses - there is nothing entertaining about the series, whatsoever.
gypsykingg there’s a difference between fact and opinion you don’t like nascars racing and that’s cool if you don’t like it just don’t be an asshole and be all high and mighty and make people think f1 fans are elitist assholes. Also yes it does have something to do with being close minded because instead of saying I don’t like it you say there’s nothing entertaining about it proving that you are closed minded
The real question is if a NASCAR driver could succeed in F1. F1 drivers have came to NASCAR and not have very much success but we will never see a NASCAR driver in f1 anyways because getting a ride in F1 is hard
they could be faster in f1 but if you listen to the drivers they aren't even going full throttle for more than a second, they start saving fuel almost immediately after starting
You can’t compare three different types of racing. I watch all three top divisions of racing, and enjoy all three, because I love racing. I don’t love one particular form of racing, I love all of them. One is no better than the other it just depends on one persons taste. Just like music.
Please do not take this personal but pretty much anything in the US is artificially overhyped and sensationalistic. Hence US people are exposed and used to this. The media is hyping this as well. Hence everything has to be side by side, three wide all the time with a lot of flips and fights. Hence the freaking stages and playoff moments. Hence the - in general - very short-kept attention span of US racing fans including Regan Smith and Kenny Wallace. It's a spiral downwards. I feel like racing fans IN GENERAL in Europe get more naturally excited about simpler things, the simple pure form of racing and don't need these overhyped, sensationalistic flips and drama racing all the time because they were never exposed to this hype. I love all racing in general. This is just a conclusion when I constantly look at what both fan bases are whining about all the time and NASCAR fans are always whining when they don't see a side by side action battle every 5 laps
Given the fall off of NASCAR, I would say that the general fan base doesn't really care for or support all the crap that they've brought to the series to add excitement. The media is hyping it because of all the money they have sunk into the sport. They're trying to minimize their investment losses.
There are those few battles, like the most recent at Texas, if you excuse the aero problems, was a good battle between Harvick and Busch for the led in the closing laps. They weren't even side by side. One good example is from one of @RealRadman s videos explaining NASCAR's problems, where he shows what I believe was the All Star race of 2007 when Matt Kenseth catches Ryan Newman and gets past him without being side by side for 10 laps. It proves that some great driving actually does happen in our sport.
The biggest gimmick in F1 was double points for the last race of the season. I have no problem with the DRS. Also if you asked most F1 fans what they want to remove and I guarantee 95% say the Halo.
Let’s just stop comparing and enjoy all series, they’re all great in a certain way... -formula 1 because of the innovation and Technology -IndyCar because of the overtakes and speed -NASCAR because of The close racing legit side by side for example
Hey guys I have only watched one or two Nascar races and I've got a question: What is it with those planned cautions every 20 to 25 laps? What do you get when you win one of these stints since the winner is the one to see the chequered flag first?
Also the stages are extra points for winning those which makes leading most of the race more worth it instead of just waiting to the last lap . It also makes races more entertaining watching race for the points.
Body Design: F1 - Something you would see from WipeOut/F-Zero/Gundam/Akira. Nascar - If Pimp My Ride got a hold of a minivan Graphics/Livery F1 - Professionally created graphics and decals to highlight what the team is all about. Nascar - Gets whatever sticker they can find at the nearest gas station. Track/Circuit F1 - Takes place in city, a forest, a beach, or a real circuit from the 1960's. Nascar - An oversized Walmart Arena. Engine/Sound F1 - A screaming Banshee that wants to murder you. Nascar - A bathroom being used in Taco Bell. Racing F1 - Risky moves, gambling techniques, life-or-death choice that can result in victory or death. Nascar - Go in a circle. Pitstop F1- In and out, quick and easy. Nascar - Ummm...do they know what they're doing?
not even close, F1 series even broadcasted live worldwide. Nobody knows Nascar drivers oustide US. About 2 billions live tv audience and 5 millions of live spectators for F1 each year.
Actually, I'd rather see NASCAR at the Nordschliefe and F1 at The Monster Mile. I think those big heavy stock cars would be great to watch scrapping it out at the ring, and Daytona wouldn't do the F1 cars any justice. It's just not technical enough for them.
I find it extremely dumb when people compare motorsports to another to try and say why this one is better. At the end of the day, we are still watching cars race.
What no one understands is that F1 is not supposed to be a "pure" motorsport. The actual fight of F1 is taking part between the seasons. It has been a fight of constructors since it first started out. With the funds available to you, you built the best machine within regulations, then get some top class drivers with skills high enough to control these monster and finish it up with careful calculation and team strategy. The drivers racing is a huge part of it but at the same time thats not the only thing. To win a gp, letalone a championship, everything has to work together. I don't get what's boring to watch about that. I dont need to see overtakes or crashes to know what kind of fight is going on. F1 is more than just a sport, It's an engineers war. Maybe it would have been bigger of a war if the FIA introduced the budget limit, but I think that would have killed the supposed exclusivity of it. It always was the rich man sport. It's time to see more big teams with bigger budgets.
What are you talking about drs has helped !!! Do you know how dominant cars were back then 2000-2004 Michael Schumacher, leading races by 40 seconds, and the cars would be spaced because their engines are limited to their budget
This whole argument of NASCAR vs. F1 doesn't really help the classic 'Americans are dumb' stereotype. Doesn't help that these 'NASCAR personalities' are tweeting nonsense. Mind you I do enjoy both racing series and grew up seeing both on TV every once in a while.
As a F1 and a NASCAR fan I expect two different types of racing. F1 allows me to come up with my own strategies and see how close I get to the winner or my favorite team and I enjoy watching the cars NASCAR is my hot and nasty boxing match of a race where I can just have fun and watch some badass cars beat and bang
For me. Good Racing means, car 1 can pass car 2, then the car 2 can pass the car 1 right back. Battles. This is good racing for me. If 2 cars are running door to door for 50 laps. Sure. You can speculate, when will somebody make a mistake and lose ground to the other driver. That's why NASCAR Racing was so great in the late 80's to early 2000s. People miss that, people want that aspect of NASCAR back and the Gen6 car isn't providing that
People usually pull this subject out of their ass when discussing if NASCAR is a sport or not. They keep comparing it to F1 and end up making it NASCAR X F1.
"Cars and the technology are something we could never dream to drive." Is NASCAR really any better? 100% custom built tube chassis covered in a (surprisingly well developed unlike many people assume, they're not far off GT3 level downforce) racing only bodyshell, powered by engines sharing not one component with anything on the road, and which are simultaneously both assbackwards in general design (Two valves per cylinder? Pushrod actuation? Carburetors?) and ridiculously overengineered in the specifics (revving up to 10k rpm, the materials technology and design + manufacturing of the individual components is insane to make it possible), running on a suspension that's one part 19th century (rear axle mostly) and another part 22nd century (again the individual parts are very high tech). At least I can buy car today that has a hybrid driveline with energy harvesting and even active aero, buying something with technology like in the NASCAR would require buying very old hardware, which in the end wouldn't really be anything like what they run. Heck, where I live, it'd be cheaper to buy a car that's thematically closer to an F1 car than a NASCAR too. Lets face it, NASCAR is a 100% purpose built silhouette prototype racing car, running some artificial restrictions on specific areas that ostensibly keep parts of the technology rooted in the early 20th century while actually being pushed to the limit both via design and manufacturing. It's a bespoke tube chassis with bespoke racing only bodywork with a bespoke driveline and suspension, thematically the same thing as a Le Mans prototype, just different in the specifics. It's not a stockcar, not a touring car, not a GT car, not production based, it's pure racing only, 100% purpose built prototype stuff.
I’ve seen a jit on fox say f1 is garbage because if it ain’t rubbing it ain’t racing, but he doesn’t realize that F1 is way harder than nascar , I think nascar fanboys need to stop being ignorant and actually watch a F1 race
A successful Nascar driver needs instinct to win as you are constantly bumped around. The F1 drivers just needs a more advance car as you are not bumped and simply have to drive faster and learn to brake and corner at the exact time every time. Nascar is easy to get into but more difficult to master. You have less control of your vehicle, you are constantly being bumped by wind pressure from the surrounding cars as wells as the cars themselves. That is something you can not train or prepare for until race day. That is what makes Nascar harder than F1. F1 you will need to learn the capabilities of you car (as you have nearly a hundred different options to adjust the speed and handling in real time while racing) as well as the track. These are things you can learn before race day.
F1 is supposed to be racing at it's highest level. You're given a set of standards and you make the fastest car you can within those standards. It doesn't have to be side by side because it's not based on being equal in what the driver pilots, it's based on which team and manufacturer can create the most elite top-end vehicle and which driver can get the most out of their vehicle via driving line, witts, and luck. Stock car racing was meant to be cars you could buy at the dealer then strip clean and get the most out of, and what made it fun was that you could use your fenders, like battling rush hour traffic on [insert local hated interstate]. I can't quite put my finger on when, but, it just became too different too quickly for me. And, I'm pretty progressive amongst the community. We live in the Central Florida area and are usually more interested in going to the Rolex 24 than we are the 500 these days. The 500 just feels too theme parky to me now-a-days, and that's from someone who prefers the race with an small theme park in it.
“Why on earth we trying to trash F1?” Because F1 is boring. Most of the races decided by the poll trial, who ever wins that wins the race. This guy makes some valid point when it’s comes to NASCAR, but F1 is just not as exciting to watch as NASCAR is. I really don’t like the stage system and the uniformity of nascar lately, but it’s still better racing than F1.
@@pr-tj5by YOU HAVE ZERO KNOWLEDGE OF NASCAR AND YOU ARE PRETENDING THAT ROAD COURSES DIDN'T EXIST IN NASCAR DO YOUR RESEARCH THIS IS WHY I HATE F1 BECAUSE OF IGNORANT F1 FANS LIKE YOU AND DELETE THAT EMOJI YOU ARE NOT COOL WITH THAT
I'll be completely honest, I think 90% of the hostility comes from immature F1 fans. I feel like a load of F1 fans think oval racing is just turning left tbh, which is completely untrue. (I say this as an F1 fan btw)
I think people need to watch Indycar more. I honestly think it takes what makes NASCAR great and add the excellent things about F1, you get Indycar. So basically, Indycar is underrated
Gerrard Oran Tony George gave all of American open wheel racing a bad name in 1996 at the INDY 500 with the IRL 25/8 rule. CART should have never ran the US 500 in 1996. That mess lead to INDYCAR being not good for years. Just now things are looking up for that sport.
I have an idea. We have two or three NASCAR drivers go to COTA to drive the F1 race, and two or 3 F1 drivers to drive the NASCAR race. That way, we have some of both worlds.
At least kenny was reasonable. Reagan smith is making this stupid comparison with F1. If nascar want to be good change the cars so they pass each other and make the sechule shorter and get rid of some 1 1/2 milers add short tracks add road course and shorten the races
In my opinion, NASCAR only cares about NASCAR, and these NASCAR variety shows (NASCAR Race Hub, any program that only feature NASCAR) is just propaganda machine for NASCAR and no substance like RPM2Night did on ESPN. Kenny Wallace comments didn't both me, however F1 venues are much smaller than NASCAR venues. Also, there is more than NASCAR problems then Kenny admits. Smith's comments, I lost a-lot of respect for him, and he did no favor in winning over motorsports fans to watch NASCAR. In my opinion, Reagan Smith needs to look at the racing on 1.5 mile tracks from 2018, 2008, and 1998, tell me which year had the best racing. NASCAR on track product isn't as great as it was in the 90s and their championship is very gimmiky. F1 is pure motorsports development (well, Formula E) but NASCAR is way behind in technology, and it's not innovated to the auto industry. Great video. Joe
Also, F1 had the paddle shift, and several technological advancements come to the auto industry and commercial cars. NASCAR was using a corroborator till 2011?
After being a fan of NASCAR for well over 10 years and going to well over 20 different races including short tracks like Bristol and superspeedways like Talladega I can honestly say the comparison between F1 and NASCAR doesn't make sense like he said. I became an F1 fan it because it was different from Nascar because it was something I had never seen before. The level of racing the difficulty of track and the stiffness of competition between the top 3 drug me into becoming the Super Fan I am today. When you try to compare these two racing series it's like trying to compare European football and American football they're not the same thing in any way shape or form
F1 is a bunch of private school kids with lots of money but the sport is played like Basketball were you cannot even touch the other guy without causing something to happen. I started to shy away from F1 because I grew up on a dirt Circle track racing sprints. So I’m not new to the whole wheel thing. I know how dangerous it is but we get sideways at 90mph on mud and we get side by side with our cars in a very coontolled chaos. F1 drivers nowadays are young kids
The teams are sure but the only mega rich left in F1, as in got in because of money is Lance stroll the rest are just that good and are good at selling themselves to sponsors and the media. Also these 'young kids' happen to have the ability to race in effectively any other series and win, because F1 is the hardest race series in the world, not NASCAR pal.
Can we all agree that racing is racing? Let's be honest, I watched the Phoenix Indycar race and it was good in my honest opinion. F1 is too boring and the same two to three teams win all the time. NASCAR will have a growth spurt in the near future, I would hope so at least.
*Hamilton makes a three wide pass for a triple overtake down the front straight and Bottas nearly takes out Vettel to win, but Vettel holds on in a cat and mouse tire conservation race. Also Pierre Gasly finished 4th with a mediocre team in a GP2 engine* “F1 is boring.”
I just cannot bring myself to watch essentially the same result over and over again. F1 (and racing in general) needs more upsets like in March Madness and the FA Cup to keep me interested.
"technology none of us will dream to drive" I can name at least 20 things on your car F1 invented, I can't say the same for nascar, in fact Im pretty sure nascar hasn't helped the motor industry at all
It's like comparing a triathlete to a body builder. Both are fit in their own respective areas, but overall they have drastically different ways of working out.
I’m far more of an F1 fan than NASCAR but I’d never describe F1 as “pure racing”. Almost the exact opposite of that. I explain f1 to to non-fans as the kind of sport where your enjoyment as a spectator depends on you learning all sorts of aspects that have nothing to do with the race itself - I.e. automotive engineering, politics, team dynamics, personalities, pit strategy, etc. Probably over half of what makes f1 interesting doesn’t happen on the track. And again, that’s my statement as an f1 fan.
There are less races in F1 because the races are so expensive, and the teams can’t handle it, F1 teams only have 3 engines for 21 races . A nascar could never do that
Two completely different forms of racing, no issue in fans enjoying both, or one over the other.
You would think people within the sport would understand that.
Well it is Kenny Wallace here. Let’s take that into account.
RealRadman you and David Land, and DoubleEdud should all get all the NASCAR TH-camrs togeather and start a “Fix NASCAR” Movement, and get them to hear you.
RealRadman well I mean like every else says about the media. It's all blown out of proportion and since racing isn't as fun as what it used to be, they have to bring in a little bit of WWE drama and make things sizzle to get attention.
Andrew Romanski NASCAR won't care what you say unless you're partnered with them like Monster Energy or even when Sprint was here. It's usually the entitlement sponsor who throws out ideas to NASCAR and they aren't going to go on TH-cam to look for help.
Have to agree, it is not a zero sum game ... If you enjoy it then it is good. I'm a 50 year old Brit and grew up with F1, but have watched NASCAR for a few decades. I enjoy a lot of motor sports but my favourite is touring cars. I'm also in love with the Isles Of Man TT and hill climbing.
I think, in general, the problem is down to sponsorship .... It seems to me that there is a big battle in a lot of motor sport between the sponsors that have a lot of money to develop the technology, the fans that want to see close battles and the regulatory bodies that are trying to appease both sides.
Sorry about that, was a whisky night :)
Comparing NASCAR to F1 is like comparing drag racing to Indy car racing. You don’t.
hotmojoe.
Thats a not a fair comparison
2ndly Nascar is hardcore and
F1 drivers like Montoya even
Know its not an easy sport...
Plum_Crazy 1992 I’m not saying that either are easy, I respect the hell out of both sports. Both have their own different aspects and pitfalls, but it’s impossible to compare an apple and a banana as if they were the same.
hotmojoe.
True i understand that. I just feel
Like people ask too much of the
Stock cars themselves not takin
Into effect. Nascars are 3400ibs
Nascar has more cars and most of the time there are oval tracks not with insane corners like Eau Rouge or Shanghai turn 1 and 2
I have no idea why FOX would bring F1 into this. If they feel NASCAR is going backwards, why attack a different form of motorsport by essentially saying, "Look. They are way worse than us and are still popular"? It makes them sound petty and desperate.
I have never heard an F1 pundit mention any other form of motorsport in such a negative way. When the unfortunate incident with the Ferrari crew member happened this season, the general talk was "Do we have too many pit-crew members? Should we use 6-man pit-crews like they do in IndyCar and NASCAR for better safety?" Hell, when the resistance against the halo was at its highest, F1 fans and pundits were praising IndyCar for trying out the glass-windshield concept and having a successful test with it.
TBH I don't know what they're on about... the Bahrain Grand Prix was pretty good!
I mean, nascar and f1 are somewhat on a similar level. Its because they appeal to many people, is very highbrow, and is a popular motorsport
i Think the Big Thing why F1 Didnt Closed Pit Road Or Put the Safety Car not the VR Safety Car Out They Had A Injured Crew Guy is what Regan and Kenny was Meaning
Well said David. Regan had some beers and started posting on the internet. Its like cows telling you to eat chicken.
Leave the F1 comparison for Indycar because they are the same form of racing.
The Smith comment was one of the dumbest comparisons I have ever seen. People love F1 because of the technology of the cars and the iconic teams in Ferarri, Mercedes, etc. They don't really need good racing because of that factor. Nascar has become garbage, not F1.
David Land Yeah, and also, in NASCAR, do we see any actually REALLY exciting racing besides a slightly exciting Daytona 500. If you really want a comparison to F1, try Indycar? Or maybe IMSA?
Lack of perspective and ignorance as usual from Regan. NASCAR media is also out of touch with their own sport so any comments on another are always an embarrassment
Rusty Walrus That's why I don't watch RACEHUB or NASCAR America
I also want to add, THANK YOU David. I learn something new from all of your videos.
Regan is a classless tool anyways. Couldn't win at Mid-Ohio cleanly and had to drive Tag off the track to do so.
Holy crap it's the actual Rusty Walrus. I swear I was making a meme out of that almost a year ago.
jc1424 😂😂 no relation to the bandicoot game
Motorsport is at its best when all forms coexist, end of story.
Jared Round I miss the speed channel
Amen
Nailed it
Yeah, Motorsport should be a family.
M Hilmy Fauzi true that man
I always assumed anyone who compared NASCAR and F1 were always misinformed at best and very stupid at worst. It doesn't take a genius to see they both have a rightful place and role to play in Motorsport.
As a fan of racing in general, I can honestly say I've tried to get into F1 and I just can't. I don't enjoy it. However, that's me. I agree with you, NASCAR and F1 (as well as other forms of auto racing) all have their place and can coexist. If someone likes F1, good on them. If someone likes NASCAR, good on them, too.
@@RB3Author im trying to make myself like f1 xd
@@duckway4733 it's just wholly uninteresting racing at this point. I used to love watching for the tech and the raw power of the cars and of course the sound. I feel that the move to more and more hybrid tech made it impossible for the smaller teams to keep up. It also removed 2 of the reasons I watched f1 in the first place.
Preach it brother. Also, 50% of the reason why I watch F1 is for the tech.
And yes, the results are relatively predictable (merc ferrari redbull in the front etc.) but when you get a back marker or midfield car racing above its "class" it's a massive surprise and you root for them.
Like Magnusson in Australia, or Hartley in Bahrain.
*Carlos Sainz’s entire 2019 season or Sergio Perez when Force India existed*
You've literally voiced my exact opinion holy crap.
The whole of Nascar has a smaller budget of Mercedes in F1, dont speak
@@davidmasal1038 that’s a bad thing dumbass.
Comparing Nascar to F1 is like comparing the NFL to the FIFA World Cup. They're almost completely different and unique in their own ways, and the only thing they have in common is what the sport is called (football or Motorsports)
The World Cup is way bigger than the NFL but I get your point (I know I’m late)
@@DomAFC9 That's the point he's making. Nascar is an America centric sport whereas F1 is a global sport .
Dodram ! Oh I see now
Call me crazy, but I believe this is ploy from Fox in order to "persuade" NASCAR fans that gimmicky racing is in fact 'real racing'.
It's not the first time that Fox or NBC (to some extent) orchestrated a smeer campaign on who ever poses a threat or criticises the product.
Makes you wonder over who is wearing the pants at NASCAR HQ when it comes to guiding the direction of the sport.
Which is kind of ironic, since NASCAR doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to the whole gimmick argument. They have been pushing out more gimmicks to try and steal fans that would like the F1 style of racing than arguably F1 has in recent times with crap like the caution clock, overtime lap, and segmented races.
Chiko Roll /\ This. NASCAR will never admit when they make a bug mistake from something they've hyped but will do everything they can to make it look like their s#)@ don't stink. Kind of like what happened with the CoT.
I don't think NASCAR has a prayer when it comes to stealing F1 fans. I have been trying to get into NASCAR off my own back lately and just can't get into it. Same with the Indy Car Racing. Oval racing along with the length of the races just bores the fuck out of me. I also think you have too many cars and with me not being familiar its very hard to understand what is going on in the middle/back of the pack I prefer drag racing to oval circuits. You have some amazing circuits over there as well, Leguna Seca being one of my favourite tracks in the world
The Nascar vs F1 lunacy needs to stop. They're two completely different types of motorsport and always have been. The cars can not be more different. Some people are strictly NASCAR fans because they only care for that style of racing. The NASCAR fans that don't like other motorsports, but have given them a complete and honest chance should not be confused with the NASCAR fans that simply dislike other motorsports because they're different. Some people are strictly F1 fans for the same reason, and the same critea applies. However, there are some "racing purests" out there that just love racing and enjoy motorsport for what it is. That's where I, and many others fall.
(From my IG post)
Amen
Well you can thank Tony George for people thinking NASCAR is like F1. F1 was not going good in the early 90s and INDYCAR/CART was better. Then Tony George did his 25/8 power play in 1996 at the INDY 500 and killed all the momentum INDYCAR had.
heroic_sports I just respect all forms of racing cuz I know I can't meet that kind of skill. I think I'm a good driver and will occasionally throw some extra speed into a corner, but I'm nowhere near the skill of a racing driver. Everyone just needs to chill XD
Breavin 777 Every racing motorsport is awesome, I prefer Aussie V8's, NASCAR, and Stadium Super Trucks over other motoraports but that doesn't make them bad.
By the sounds of it you have a couple of commentators sounding off. To me F1 has always been and done its own thing. You never hear commentators of F1 comparing the two. I don't know what its like over there but nearly all of the British commentators are ex F1 drivers and I very much doubt any one of them are going to compare the two.
You have to respect each level of motorsports for what they are. Whether its Nascar, F1, Indycar, NHRA, IMSA, WEC, Supercross, and others. Don't bash on another series unless you know what the series is about. Regan's comments were uncalled for and disrespectful in my opinion and Nascar was the first racing series I started watching. I've learned to respect, follow and watch other form of motorsports. Regan probably should too.
Amen
Very well put
True story.
I'm not huge fan of NASCAR but when I saw footage of NASCAR on TV I would still watch it because it's a Motorsport.
Though my favourite would still be Autocross. Agile and fast!! (/>~
Well IMSA technically is a part of NASCAR
The issue is that Nascar thinks it's the NFL.
Sam Seaver yet years ago they said that they were the real sport and not a stick and ball sport but now they are trying to make a race like a stick and ball sport with quarters or periods like in NHL,NBA,NFL and MLB.
rob mush I agree 100%. The whole stages thing is a ridiculous attempt to copy other American sports.
Sam Seaver the current system would work without win & you're in
Stages makes dominating most the race then losing to a last lap pass more worth it instead of them not trying till the last lap. If they race for those xtra points it will be more entertaining because they’re trying to get those points.
I have never been a fan of F1, it never clicked for me but I respect it as an incredibly difficult form of racing that requires an immense amount of talent. I think one of the biggest factors in why people want to bash each other over it is the difference in fans. NASCAR fans are almost completely American compared to F1 which is more worldwide and has a heavy European base. The difference in racing, sports, entertainment, and just overall culture can not be overlooked when talking about this. As for Regan Smith, you're a failed NASCAR driver who's claim to fame is that Dale Jr. hired you for NASCAR's AAA league. Sometimes the truth hurts. Think about it.
Hahaha never clicked for you? Haha what racing on an actual racing track with corners hair pins and chicanes.
@@w.kfontaine7084 you say that like nascar doesn’t do road courses
@@w.kfontaine7084 you’re a fucking moron lmao. They race at 7 road courses, a dirt track, and a triangle on top of the ovals. At least we don’t have 3 drivers total who actually win races every year. The racing is actually competitive, but you wouldn’t know that.
I watch f1 sometimes but I love nascar more
F1 has a 2 hour time limit on every race, so they cannot extend beyond a set period of time, regardless of whether the race reaches its lap limit or not
Then there's that refueling thing too,
Kieran Page it’s like that because Canada 2011
The Legend 30 the overall limit is 3 hours from start to finish, inclusive of red flag periods. It's 2 hours of green flag or safety car running.
F1 is actually either 305km or 2 hours whichever comes first. So, Monaco works out around 260km due to the lower lap time. There is an overall time limit for the event to minimize the maximum time on a race day.
The Legend 30 2 hours of racing (Green flag and SC periods), and a total of 4 hours with red flags. Whichever comes first if all laps have not been completed
My perspective of Regan has changed drastically now. The recent Bahrain GP was anything but *"GARBAGE"* a three wide battle for position early in the race with Hulkenburg, Ocon, and Hamilton. Plus, there was an excellent battle towards the end with Valtteri Bottas and Seb Vettel. Regan is absolutely *WRONG.*
It's stupid to compare them. Compare Indy to F1 perhaps and NASCAR to Aussie V8's but you simply cannot compare tin tops with open wheels, ever.
I'm in the UK and enjoy all of them, honestly I do and can appreciate the different skill set needed. In NASCAR it's not so much 'skill' as it is 'feel' and guts, the best NASCAR drivers have the ability to feel how long the can hold that line, they have the guts to keep that throttle down further than the car next to them, in F1 it's more about the skill to hit that apex to half an inch every lap, to hit the anchors at the latest and best possible moment every corner.
What I *really* don't understand is the entire 'fanboy' attitude of irrational hate or defence of their preferred series/driver/team/track/oatmeal/toilet brush......etc.
- Watch what you enjoy.
- Don't watch what you don't enjoy.
- If you can't manage that, shut the hell up and go watch golf.
Sidenote: Recently started this channel and would appreciate some support if anyone has a few minutes spare, it'll help me move forward and improve (which I really need to do but a channel is a lot of effort when you work 60 hours a week lol) Thanks in advance if anyone has the time.
Jonty's Corner Not bashing on NASCAR. Ive watched a few clips on it and what i dont understand is how its possible to lead until the 2nd placer spins you out while taking a few other cars with you. It seems that no matter how much skill you possess in NASCAR, a simple tap on the rear can drown you
NASCAR's race cars are very low on downforce and surprisingly undertired too. The things are heavy and unwieldy (by design) and are driven at the absolute edge of control as that is the fastest way around the track. They are unstable as heck at speed and very prone to oversteer. Spinning another driver out by getting into the back end is definitely considered bad form, but a "bump and run" where the guy in front is nudged and slides up the track (in an oval where there are the large and usually banked corners at each end of the track with room for the poor sap to recover without hitting the wall) is perfectly acceptable. Very different from Formula 1 where the cars have high downforce, a lighter car, and wider tires in relation to the weight of that car. They get loose too, but when they do the cars are so quick to get sideways. I don't care what the talking head feckwits say about either sport, because I love to watch them both!
Well if anything, NASCAR fans only pay attention to Daytona, Talladega, short tracks, road courses and whatever their hometrack is. NASCAR needs to be their own thing instead of trying to compete worldwide. I mean in America, we rarely hear about touring cars, DTM and V8 Supercars. NASCAR needs to remain in America and try to stay away from Formula 1. Not to mention, Indycar has been better than both series anyway.
MrKyleBusch1 I tune into every race. I quit watching when NASCAR media start going nuts over Kyle Busch taking the lead. Or a Toyota period. But if it’s a ford or Chevy they are like well let’s see what Kyle is doing or Eric Jones or Hamlin. They don’t even care bout Chase, Byron or others not in a Toyota.
Michael Rogers Well here is the thing about that. You really do not hear anything about Chase Elliott or William Byron during the race. Those driver come out towards the end since they are not chargers. Hamlin, Busch, Truex and Jones are drivers who try to lead the laps and if anything this year, they been paying more attention to the Fords more than the Toyotas specifically Harvick, Bowyer, Kurt Busch, Joey Logano, Ryan Blaney and Brad Keselowski. Even Kyle Larson they talk a lot about as well because they try to lead every single lap. Chase Elliott really just hangs around in 9th the whole race and sort of seems to settle in. William Byron still has some work to do, but the Chevys are not good this year.
MrKyleBusch1 dtm and v8 are far more better than f1
I find formula 1 alot more better! But don't get me wrong DTM and V8 supercars are incredibly exciting too! for me touring cars will always be a close second to formula 1! I really do enjoy V8 supercars and me being an australian i do always get the chance to watch this series! Touring cars in my opinion are still aren't as good as formula 1 but is wayyyyyyy better than NASCAR and IndyCar.
MrKyleBusch1 is that not a sign that nascar having so many mile and a half tracks is a terrible idea.
Why can't we like both?
Random Animations Regan Smith was the one throwing shade at F1 this time. The thing that gets me is, of all the motorsports to compare NASCAR to, F1 is random as hell.
F1 is hard to find it if isn't at 4:00 am
DavidHanks Or is it? ???
Because you're either an idiot or you're intelligent. Intelligent people will not find any entertainment value from watching cars drive in an oval for 5 hours. The only entertaining thing that happens is when drivers get mad and intentionally wreck others. Not surprisingly, when drivers do this, they face zero negative repercussions. That's not racing - that's a joke.
gypsykingg Intelligent people respect others opinions and not treat others like inferior beings for not liking something you don't
To quote the great David Land, "the real competition is between Indycar and F1." F1 is more technical, eveeycar is different. The 3 or 4 teams running Renault are leagues apart. Same with the teams running Ferrari engines. NASCAR is closer, the drivers more down to earth, bug f1 was never like that. It was about pushing technology and punching speeds that are ludicrous. Sure that's what NASCAR started as, but it's not anymore. F1 is still what it started as. Arguably f1 is a more pure motor sport. They do have close finishes, Baku 2017 for example. NASCAR has more gimmicks , more same mess, less competition, less of a need to try and push faster speeds. The biggest issue for NASCAR is the fan base.
The answer to Kenny Wallace's question is that "NASCAR" promotes itself and every single race as an action packed extravaganza. Watch how they promote Bristol this week. Wrecks, fights, bumpin n bangin!! Come raceday none of it will happen. They do this for every race, then add in the playoff hype, Daytona 500, All-star race. Pull back on all the nostalgia, and create some new moments that aren't completely manufactured.
That's the announcer's job. "Today is the greatest race of all time, and if you liked today= Next week is going to be even better"
I saw rhis comment the day before bristol LOL
NASCAR trying to deflect attention - a lot of empty seats in Texas Sunday would suggest so
marksandsparks1 here we go 😐😒
Live sporting events in the U.S. as a whole are on the decline as far as selling seats even the NFL are removing seats from their stadiums.
marksandsparks1 it was extremely cold at Texas this weekend
Davis Renfrow Diecast it's more than that on my there were empty seats
I've been watching nascar for 15 years, and honestly, Brian France had ruined the sport. The cars 2008 backward were good, but when the COT came out, it started the downward spiral to where it is today. And now, Indycar and F1 are my favorite motorsports. Nascar has fallen so far on my favorites that it's sad. I'm a proud American, but NASCAR has been ruined by the corporate heads of the sport and has chased away so many of the old fans that made it great to begin with.
NASCAR just needs to fix there problems and leave other series alone. Nascar should have shorter races and maybe a shorter season. Each track one race a year. We don’t need a two hour pre race and also don’t need daily content like NASCAR race hub witch is a joke anyway. Just my opinion!
Jason a strain69 I don't think they need a shorter season, but new and different tracks to replace the doubled up 1.5 mile tracks
Alien Gaming definitely tracks with two races get one. Each year different races in the Chase and still shorter races. And since I live in Iowa add a cup race there.
Jason a strain69 NASCARs at COTA?
Rhys Kateley I think that would be cool but I doubt that it would ever happen.
The Northwest needs something. the closest track to me is Sonoma.... yeah, I ain't going to that crap.
The reason that they are both looking for is simple: over here in Europe, F1 is at the top of a kind of racing that we’ve been bought up around. It’s in our blood. Hardly anyone knows what NASCAR is, and it’s very difficult finding a way of watching it here. Over in America, NASCAR sits at the top of a kind of racing you folks have been bought up around. F1 has a tiny, insignificant presence over there and despite many tries, it’s still not broken through. It’s a cultural thing. Two completely different products born out of two very different continents’ history with motor racing. You guys have the NFL and the MLB. We have the Premier League and cricket.
And you know what? That’s cool. That’s how it should be. I like NASCAR because it’s basically feels like America on wheels. It’s cool seeing a series that identifies with its origins so well (although you can argue that’s been lost over time). I like F1 because it’s a technological marvel and the cars are absolutely mad... and because ever since I was a kid, it was forefront and centre on sports channels and in our media. I’ve grown up with it, through Senna to Schumacher and on from Alonso to Hamilton.
If they are trying to shine a light on NASCAR by torching F1 then it’s utterly misguided. It’s like me blaming my shitty day at work on David eating a breakfast cereal I probably hate. F1 and NASCAR’s problems don’t relate in any way, shape or form and despite having four wheels and a driver, neither do the two sports as a whole. It’s that difference that should be celebrated, not thrown under some FOX-induced microscope for criticism.
Kiroquai amen
INDYCAR WILL BE THE TOP AMERICAN SPORT SOONER OR LATER
I’m gonna go make that an actual comment
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It sounds like fox sports got their talking points, does F1 suck and NASCAR is awesome? I m just asking? Why is F1 so popular? This sounds like fox saw the ratings from the races this weekend and went into defence mode. Sounds like another channel they own. Think about it. How are those no go zones in Europe we still hear about them? I have heard this kinda thing from Fox for my whole life.
Kiroquai I feel F1 is uniquely European, light fast cars that are nuanced and sophisticated. I also have to wake or stay up late on Sunday, next weekend I gotta be up at 1am to see the start well worth it.
13:10 "they aren't trying to be like f1" look at how nascar qualifies now.. 3 rounds... Sound familiar? Lol
SHEVYWOOD Not for everything, Daytona has the clash and duels while road courses have only two rounds
Also it's not the only series to have F1 type qualy; IndyCar does a very slightly different version of it and I believe some touring car seriesdo as well
F1 started the three rounds of qualifying system...
JumboJ99 and the v8 Supercars in Australia that we’re racing on the same weekend as the f1 in melbourne just done a qualifying thing an there last race of 3 rounds in a different way tho
Andrew Surowiec thats my point lol
SHEVYWOOD I was trying to tell the other guy that. I could tell you knew
Wow that really strikes a cord because I like F1 more than NASCAR. Sucks people are called F1 boring. Heck, the Bahrain GP was a pretty exciting race and lots of low end, not highly funded teams, were battling for point positions and a few like Marcus Erikson and Pierre Gasly had wonderful races and scored points.
X_mattc10_X Usually people call F1 boring cause in their season only like 5 different drivers win compared to around 10 in NASCAR. To appreciate F1 you have to focus on everything from backmarkers to the top guys at the front.
and perez got a podium in baku. and china was insane at the end heck alonso finished above vettel in a friggin mclaren. this season has been really great racing but we all know ferrari and merc and maybe RB will dominate till the next rule change. it will be interesting to see whos best when budget caps are implemented. pinnacle of motorsport thats why they get insane salaries
TheIceman 2220 OH ITS PHILLY/ICE -PUMP
eventhough US GP 2005 only have 6 cars , i still manage to watch till the end without getting bored
NASCAR needs the X-3 body and some more downforce so that there can be at least some good runs, passes, and dirty air is less of an issue. F1 needs less reliability on that front wing
ThatoneElliottfan9 So the car they have? That's what you just described. X-3 was designed to be less aero dependant, so you why are you adding aero to it?
Jonathan Robertson X-3 is symmetrical and the front end is high up, that will allow air under the car and more passing opportunities
X-3 has straight sides and a hole under the front end it’s basically the new gen-4
But the front wing is for downforce
NASCAR needs real STOCK cars.
3:07 scared the crap outta me Jesus David
That's the most scariest fake laugh ever!
NASCARFan889 this has to be a meme
I like all types of motor sports racing
Why can’t all racing series just get along?
JJ22FTW Closed minds and anti Americanism
Ppl get salty i guess
@Ploke Newo78 were you not paying attention to the video its obvious the Americans were the first aggressors. Also if Europeans didn't exist neither would Americans
Hutt Productions I would say normally f1 fans gang up on nascar fans or at least from the comments I see
@Ploke Newo78 Ig the American propaganda is getting to you xD
NASCAR? Pure? Those words don’t go together like Tom Brady and Inflated Footballs
Lol
Ehhhh, F1 is more pissed off about the Halo. The halo from their perspective should be burned in a pit of fire from what I’ve seen. DRS is kind of looked upon as one of those things that isn’t leaving
Agreed. I feel its still needed because the dirty air now is horrible and its adds that extra little something. Besides it only came about because everyone put F ducts on their cars in 2010.
The F1 regs proposals for 2021 suggest they want to make the cars easier to follow so they can ditch DRS.
Being a safety feature, I don't see the halo going anywhere anytime soon either.
Jules N. They said it was temporary until they could find a better protection mechanism, which I interpreted as “deal with it it’s gonna be here a while”
hotmojoe. I wasn't aware of that... It doesn't matter though my brain learned to ignore it, I don't even see it anymore.
In fairness, both NASCAR and F1 have gimmicks which should all be done away with. I consider the F1 qualifying format (which has been copied by NASCAR), and the DRS zones as a gimmick. NASCAR is full of gimmicks though, to the point where you can tell that the drivers no longer enjoy it and have been retiring in droves. Double wide restarts, green-white checkers, and segments, have completely eliminated the point of having long races. The elimination chase system eliminated the point of the long season. You no longer earn a NASCAR title by being fast over the course of the longest races, and most grueling schedule in racing, no. You win it by being good on restarts, and really lucky.
Happymars the current F1 qualifying is the best system they've used this century
NASCAR took quali format from f1
I don't get the hate on f1 for having unique and technologically advanced cars. They're built for speed. Not to sell cars like stock cars are. So weird to me for Regan to bash that aspect of it.
This makes about as much sense as NASCAR V.S. MONSTER JAM,
Or NASCAR V.S. NHRA.
The only things you can do to put the two up against each other is which Sport has Worse Stereotypes...
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"the cars and the technology are something we could never dream to drive "
Can you point me towards your pushrod v8 powered , rear wheel drive Ford fusion ?
Or pushrod v8 powered , rear wheel drive Toyota Camry ?
Oh that's right they are unobtainable vehicles , but this sport is pure right ?
Only thing about NASCAR is that it's pure hillbilly trash
I probably shouldn't say this, but when I was a NASCAR fan about 20-25 years ago, I thought F1 was just a bunch of snooty Europeans, but now I just love it. I've started watching IndyCar because I followed Romain Grosjean over to it. I just can't get into NASCAR anymore. When I followed it, it was a different era. Now all those guys are gone. If they were still racing, I'm sure I would still be watching it. I went to the inaugural NASCAR race at COTA only because it's thirty minutes from my house. I left on the fifteenth lap. It was a bit unpleasant because it was raining, but I would have stayed if it hadn't been so boring. I realize, though, that it was a road course, and with the rain, too, it seemed like they were going so slow. But really, there is no sense in even trying to compare the two. F1 is in a class of it's own. The cars are like no other. I see IndyCar as being more about the drivers, but, as any F1 fan knows, F1 is a constructor's championship. The drivers are there to show off the cars. That's how I see it, anyway. So, I just appreciate each one for what it is, and enjoy them both.
I hate the closed mindedness of both sides of the fence F1 and NASCAR fans try to make each-other seem like they’re terrible where we should embrace both types of motorsports for what they are. Sure I’d like to see more f1 races in a year and would like that we could go into a weekend and not know who’s going to win Monaco. I’d like to watch nascar race around Suzuka again and see more road course races but that doesn’t make one better than the other it just gives each sport its differences
Kyle Grzech - Most NASCAR teams can't afford to race on any additional road courses. It costs a lot of money to fix a wrecked car and that's all NASCAR drivers do on real race tracks - they wreck. This is because NASCAR drivers, much like the majority of the fans, are simple-minded fools. They don't know what the center pedal is or what an apex is.
gypsykingg you realize you are proving my point of the closed mindedness aspect of fans. I’m assuming you’re either trolling or serious about this and like formula 1.
Kyle Grzech - Of course I'm serious and an F1 fan. This has nothing to do with being closed-minded - I'm simply stating what is fact. I've watched NASCAR, on ovals and road courses - there is nothing entertaining about the series, whatsoever.
gypsykingg there’s a difference between fact and opinion you don’t like nascars racing and that’s cool if you don’t like it just don’t be an asshole and be all high and mighty and make people think f1 fans are elitist assholes. Also yes it does have something to do with being close minded because instead of saying I don’t like it you say there’s nothing entertaining about it proving that you are closed minded
gypsykingg Yes, you try throwing around a 3,450 almost 4,000 pound stock car around on a road course lmao
Make sure you get that focus on the Smithfield...
NASCAR and f1 is 2 different types of racing and you can’t compare them without having good knowledge about how they both work
The real question is if a NASCAR driver could succeed in F1. F1 drivers have came to NASCAR and not have very much success but we will never see a NASCAR driver in f1 anyways because getting a ride in F1 is hard
A NASCAR driver would be garbage in formula one.
The Tumans I could see someone like Kyle Busch being good in it.
Yeah, I don't really see that.
The Tumans wee will never know. And 10 years ago I could’ve seen Tony Stewart doing really well if he tried F1
It would be interesting to see mate!
Indycar is better than both F1 and Nascar. F1 isn't competitive enough and Nascar is more of a drama show, but that's mainly just my opinion.
Razgriz Finally just starting to climb out from Tony George’s crap from the 90s.
The reason i watch F1 because evrytime you watch you're watching the fastest racecars to ever of existed and thats just fucking awesome
they could be faster in f1 but if you listen to the drivers they aren't even going full throttle for more than a second, they start saving fuel almost immediately after starting
Stephen Bachman You have no fucking idea how F1 works right?
@@johnnyweaver9946 can dragsters take corners?
You can’t compare three different types of racing. I watch all three top divisions of racing, and enjoy all three, because I love racing. I don’t love one particular form of racing, I love all of them. One is no better than the other it just depends on one persons taste. Just like music.
Please do not take this personal but pretty much anything in the US is artificially overhyped and sensationalistic. Hence US people are exposed and used to this. The media is hyping this as well. Hence everything has to be side by side, three wide all the time with a lot of flips and fights. Hence the freaking stages and playoff moments. Hence the - in general - very short-kept attention span of US racing fans including Regan Smith and Kenny Wallace. It's a spiral downwards. I feel like racing fans IN GENERAL in Europe get more naturally excited about simpler things, the simple pure form of racing and don't need these overhyped, sensationalistic flips and drama racing all the time because they were never exposed to this hype. I love all racing in general. This is just a conclusion when I constantly look at what both fan bases are whining about all the time and NASCAR fans are always whining when they don't see a side by side action battle every 5 laps
Given the fall off of NASCAR, I would say that the general fan base doesn't really care for or support all the crap that they've brought to the series to add excitement. The media is hyping it because of all the money they have sunk into the sport. They're trying to minimize their investment losses.
There are those few battles, like the most recent at Texas, if you excuse the aero problems, was a good battle between Harvick and Busch for the led in the closing laps. They weren't even side by side. One good example is from one of @RealRadman s videos explaining NASCAR's problems, where he shows what I believe was the All Star race of 2007 when Matt Kenseth catches Ryan Newman and gets past him without being side by side for 10 laps. It proves that some great driving actually does happen in our sport.
If you really want to see side by side, watch NHRA =almost guaranteed. Problem solved, wait - they are struggling too.
Excited about simpler things, yet at the same time people will be so quick to chant turn left.
The biggest gimmick in F1 was double points for the last race of the season. I have no problem with the DRS. Also if you asked most F1 fans what they want to remove and I guarantee 95% say the Halo.
XCaliber don't forget the continual knockout qualifying. Jesus Christ that was fucking stupid.
Let’s just stop comparing and enjoy all series, they’re all great in a certain way...
-formula 1 because of the innovation and
Technology
-IndyCar because of the overtakes and speed
-NASCAR because of The close racing legit side by side for example
Hey guys I have only watched one or two Nascar races and I've got a question: What is it with those planned cautions every 20 to 25 laps? What do you get when you win one of these stints since the winner is the one to see the chequered flag first?
Competition cautions is when there isn’t a caution in 20-25 laps to give drivers a chance to pit, Because usually there are cautions before that.
Also the stages are extra points for winning those which makes leading most of the race more worth it instead of just waiting to the last lap . It also makes races more entertaining watching race for the points.
@@CorrosionFn Thank you for the explanation and for answering even though my comment was three years old already :D
I just saw this video today
All forms are racing and motor sports are awesome but why must we compare them? Everybody is different and may not be passionate about the same thing.
Body Design:
F1 - Something you would see from WipeOut/F-Zero/Gundam/Akira.
Nascar - If Pimp My Ride got a hold of a minivan
Graphics/Livery
F1 - Professionally created graphics and decals to highlight what the team is all about.
Nascar - Gets whatever sticker they can find at the nearest gas station.
Track/Circuit
F1 - Takes place in city, a forest, a beach, or a real circuit from the 1960's.
Nascar - An oversized Walmart Arena.
Engine/Sound
F1 - A screaming Banshee that wants to murder you.
Nascar - A bathroom being used in Taco Bell.
Racing
F1 - Risky moves, gambling techniques, life-or-death choice that can result in victory or death.
Nascar - Go in a circle.
Pitstop
F1- In and out, quick and easy.
Nascar - Ummm...do they know what they're doing?
I can't focus on this video because of those stunning RS Spyders.
not even close, F1 series even broadcasted live worldwide. Nobody knows Nascar drivers oustide US. About 2 billions live tv audience and 5 millions of live spectators for F1 each year.
I mean come on who wouldn't want to see NASCAR at Monaco and F1 at Daytona lol
Actually, I'd rather see NASCAR at the Nordschliefe and F1 at The Monster Mile. I think those big heavy stock cars would be great to watch scrapping it out at the ring, and Daytona wouldn't do the F1 cars any justice. It's just not technical enough for them.
Put nascar at monaco and the race would be red flagged in the first corner
F1 probably wouldn't make 5 laps at Daytona lol. Not hating just saying that track is not made for f1
It's like comparing American Football to Football (Soccer). They have almost no similarities
"Written and Directed by Regan Smith"
Can't beat that.
Would you compare this also with INDYCAR, WeatherTech, Formula E, etc.?
I find it extremely dumb when people compare motorsports to another to try and say why this one is better. At the end of the day, we are still watching cars race.
What no one understands is that F1 is not supposed to be a "pure" motorsport. The actual fight of F1 is taking part between the seasons. It has been a fight of constructors since it first started out. With the funds available to you, you built the best machine within regulations, then get some top class drivers with skills high enough to control these monster and finish it up with careful calculation and team strategy. The drivers racing is a huge part of it but at the same time thats not the only thing. To win a gp, letalone a championship, everything has to work together. I don't get what's boring to watch about that. I dont need to see overtakes or crashes to know what kind of fight is going on. F1 is more than just a sport, It's an engineers war. Maybe it would have been bigger of a war if the FIA introduced the budget limit, but I think that would have killed the supposed exclusivity of it. It always was the rich man sport. It's time to see more big teams with bigger budgets.
Also a good point. Agreed.
What are you talking about drs has helped !!!
Do you know how dominant cars were back then 2000-2004 Michael Schumacher, leading races by 40 seconds, and the cars would be spaced because their engines are limited to their budget
This whole argument of NASCAR vs. F1 doesn't really help the classic 'Americans are dumb' stereotype. Doesn't help that these 'NASCAR personalities' are tweeting nonsense. Mind you I do enjoy both racing series and grew up seeing both on TV every once in a while.
Alonso could’ve won the 500 just saying if his *snicker* Honda Engine didn’t *ahem* blow up
As a F1 and a NASCAR fan I expect two different types of racing. F1 allows me to come up with my own strategies and see how close I get to the winner or my favorite team and I enjoy watching the cars
NASCAR is my hot and nasty boxing match of a race where I can just have fun and watch some badass cars beat and bang
For me. Good Racing means, car 1 can pass car 2, then the car 2 can pass the car 1 right back. Battles. This is good racing for me. If 2 cars are running door to door for 50 laps. Sure. You can speculate, when will somebody make a mistake and lose ground to the other driver. That's why NASCAR Racing was so great in the late 80's to early 2000s. People miss that, people want that aspect of NASCAR back and the Gen6 car isn't providing that
People usually pull this subject out of their ass when discussing if NASCAR is a sport or not. They keep comparing it to F1 and end up making it NASCAR X F1.
Bahrain was way better than Texas lol
"Cars and the technology are something we could never dream to drive." Is NASCAR really any better? 100% custom built tube chassis covered in a (surprisingly well developed unlike many people assume, they're not far off GT3 level downforce) racing only bodyshell, powered by engines sharing not one component with anything on the road, and which are simultaneously both assbackwards in general design (Two valves per cylinder? Pushrod actuation? Carburetors?) and ridiculously overengineered in the specifics (revving up to 10k rpm, the materials technology and design + manufacturing of the individual components is insane to make it possible), running on a suspension that's one part 19th century (rear axle mostly) and another part 22nd century (again the individual parts are very high tech). At least I can buy car today that has a hybrid driveline with energy harvesting and even active aero, buying something with technology like in the NASCAR would require buying very old hardware, which in the end wouldn't really be anything like what they run. Heck, where I live, it'd be cheaper to buy a car that's thematically closer to an F1 car than a NASCAR too.
Lets face it, NASCAR is a 100% purpose built silhouette prototype racing car, running some artificial restrictions on specific areas that ostensibly keep parts of the technology rooted in the early 20th century while actually being pushed to the limit both via design and manufacturing. It's a bespoke tube chassis with bespoke racing only bodywork with a bespoke driveline and suspension, thematically the same thing as a Le Mans prototype, just different in the specifics. It's not a stockcar, not a touring car, not a GT car, not production based, it's pure racing only, 100% purpose built prototype stuff.
Note: This doesn't mean I'm _against_ NASCAR, I quite like it in many ways, especially when they visit circuits.
F1, the pinnacle of motorsport. The ultimate of racing and engineering :)
No it's not
And it's a boring snoozefest sport 😴😴😴
Just a side note: Some F1 tech did end up in road cars, like disk brakes and carbon fiber.
Wings, winglets, DRS, KERS, diffusers, ground-effects, launch controls, traction controls, etc.
Dave Mitch
Some road cars have all of that.
Sure, they're expensive, but they are road legal.
@ShadowFalcon - I meant to say they started from race cars and ended up on road cars.
I’ve seen a jit on fox say f1 is garbage because if it ain’t rubbing it ain’t racing, but he doesn’t realize that F1 is way harder than nascar , I think nascar fanboys need to stop being ignorant and actually watch a F1 race
A successful Nascar driver needs instinct to win as you are constantly bumped around. The F1 drivers just needs a more advance car as you are not bumped and simply have to drive faster and learn to brake and corner at the exact time every time.
Nascar is easy to get into but more difficult to master. You have less control of your vehicle, you are constantly being bumped by wind pressure from the surrounding cars as wells as the cars themselves. That is something you can not train or prepare for until race day. That is what makes Nascar harder than F1. F1 you will need to learn the capabilities of you car (as you have nearly a hundred different options to adjust the speed and handling in real time while racing) as well as the track. These are things you can learn before race day.
NASCAR is dying. F1 is comeback towards us Americans...
NASCAR and F1 are both dying. Liberty Media is trying to save it from it's inevitable demise.
MiXA28 he’s not wrong
MiXA28 formula E will eventually take over f1 because it’s electric, they are both doing good right now but the future of motor sports is electric
MiXA28 it’s doing good right now, yes. I agree with you there, but in the long I meant, sorry I wasn’t clear, it will be out phased by formula E
@@N75911_ Liberty Media is trying to save F1 from the Bernie Ecclestone era. Liberty Media is not as bad as people are making it seem
F1 is supposed to be racing at it's highest level. You're given a set of standards and you make the fastest car you can within those standards. It doesn't have to be side by side because it's not based on being equal in what the driver pilots, it's based on which team and manufacturer can create the most elite top-end vehicle and which driver can get the most out of their vehicle via driving line, witts, and luck. Stock car racing was meant to be cars you could buy at the dealer then strip clean and get the most out of, and what made it fun was that you could use your fenders, like battling rush hour traffic on [insert local hated interstate]. I can't quite put my finger on when, but, it just became too different too quickly for me. And, I'm pretty progressive amongst the community. We live in the Central Florida area and are usually more interested in going to the Rolex 24 than we are the 500 these days. The 500 just feels too theme parky to me now-a-days, and that's from someone who prefers the race with an small theme park in it.
FlyBoyBigBlue It is the racing at the max level.
plss F1 is the highest form of motorsport and with Vettel and Hamiltion as the best drivers, It is the best
“Why on earth we trying to trash F1?” Because F1 is boring. Most of the races decided by the poll trial, who ever wins that wins the race. This guy makes some valid point when it’s comes to NASCAR, but F1 is just not as exciting to watch as NASCAR is. I really don’t like the stage system and the uniformity of nascar lately, but it’s still better racing than F1.
Nascar....Turn left, repeat 60 times😴
@@pr-tj5byRoad Course exist since the 50s DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!!!!!
@@MorganProductionsYT But generally turn left, repeat 60 times 😎
@@pr-tj5by IGNORANT F1 SUCKS!!!, YOU ARE PRETENDING THAT ROAD COURSES DIDN'T EXIST IN NASCAR STUPID
@@pr-tj5by YOU HAVE ZERO KNOWLEDGE OF NASCAR AND YOU ARE PRETENDING THAT ROAD COURSES DIDN'T EXIST IN NASCAR DO YOUR RESEARCH THIS IS WHY I HATE F1 BECAUSE OF IGNORANT F1 FANS LIKE YOU AND DELETE THAT EMOJI YOU ARE NOT COOL WITH THAT
3:05 rip headphone users
I'll be completely honest, I think 90% of the hostility comes from immature F1 fans. I feel like a load of F1 fans think oval racing is just turning left tbh, which is completely untrue. (I say this as an F1 fan btw)
I think people need to watch Indycar more. I honestly think it takes what makes NASCAR great and add the excellent things about F1, you get Indycar. So basically, Indycar is underrated
Gerrard Oran Tony George gave all of American open wheel racing a bad name in 1996 at the INDY 500 with the IRL 25/8 rule. CART should have never ran the US 500 in 1996. That mess lead to INDYCAR being not good for years. Just now things are looking up for that sport.
Turning left for four hours should not be considered racing at all.
Marcus Ho Going in a straight line for 2 hours shouldn’t either
@@iTmSims how is F1 going in a straight line for 2 hours? It's got plenty of corners(especially right turns).
Marcus Ho I meant single file
Marcus Ho But today was good
@@iTmSims Sebastian Grosjean was bang average in F1 and has just come 2nd in only his 3rd Indycar race after getting Pole position.....
Brian France compares NASCAR to NFL
I have an idea. We have two or three NASCAR drivers go to COTA to drive the F1 race, and two or 3 F1 drivers to drive the NASCAR race. That way, we have some of both worlds.
At least kenny was reasonable. Reagan smith is making this stupid comparison with F1. If nascar want to be good change the cars so they pass each other and make the sechule shorter and get rid of some 1 1/2 milers add short tracks add road course and shorten the races
Wow. That's low. All Motorsport is equal in quality, NASCAR isn't boring, neither is f1. All Motorsport is good.
In my opinion, NASCAR only cares about NASCAR, and these NASCAR variety shows (NASCAR Race Hub, any program that only feature NASCAR) is just propaganda machine for NASCAR and no substance like RPM2Night did on ESPN.
Kenny Wallace comments didn't both me, however F1 venues are much smaller than NASCAR venues. Also, there is more than NASCAR problems then Kenny admits.
Smith's comments, I lost a-lot of respect for him, and he did no favor in winning over motorsports fans to watch NASCAR.
In my opinion, Reagan Smith needs to look at the racing on 1.5 mile tracks from 2018, 2008, and 1998, tell me which year had the best racing. NASCAR on track product isn't as great as it was in the 90s and their championship is very gimmiky.
F1 is pure motorsports development (well, Formula E) but NASCAR is way behind in technology, and it's not innovated to the auto industry.
Great video.
Joe
Joe Samaniego aw man, now I miss RPM2Night
yarrrthekraken and Wind Tunnel with Dave Despain
LOL REGAN SMITH. Somebody must’ve told him to say something bonkers like Stephen A Smith or Skip Bayless. Or he was drunk as fuck that morning
Also, F1 had the paddle shift, and several technological advancements come to the auto industry and commercial cars. NASCAR was using a corroborator till 2011?
Joe Samaniego NASCAR is a motorsport that sticks near its roots while F1 is the advancement of racing technology, two totally different styles.
After being a fan of NASCAR for well over 10 years and going to well over 20 different races including short tracks like Bristol and superspeedways like Talladega I can honestly say the comparison between F1 and NASCAR doesn't make sense like he said. I became an F1 fan it because it was different from Nascar because it was something I had never seen before. The level of racing the difficulty of track and the stiffness of competition between the top 3 drug me into becoming the Super Fan I am today. When you try to compare these two racing series it's like trying to compare European football and American football they're not the same thing in any way shape or form
lets all be honest, David is the dad of the Nascar TH-cam fandom
F1 is a bunch of private school kids with lots of money but the sport is played like Basketball were you cannot even touch the other guy without causing something to happen. I started to shy away from F1 because I grew up on a dirt Circle track racing sprints. So I’m not new to the whole wheel thing. I know how dangerous it is but we get sideways at 90mph on mud and we get side by side with our cars in a very coontolled chaos. F1 drivers nowadays are young kids
The teams are sure but the only mega rich left in F1, as in got in because of money is Lance stroll the rest are just that good and are good at selling themselves to sponsors and the media. Also these 'young kids' happen to have the ability to race in effectively any other series and win, because F1 is the hardest race series in the world, not NASCAR pal.
At least F1 is improving (or at the very least is making good progress towards doing so)
Yeah, nascar needs to do something new to stay alive.
No
How much are the items in the blue bins?
A low budget 2016 stock car on the thumbnail of a 2018 video----WHY IS THIS A THING?!?!?
thebigone5395 it was Regan smiths last full time cup car so far
Sam Pizza I know, I'm a fan of him. But the car was still low budget. He did good in the 43 and deserves a decent cup ride.
I'm trying to figure out how they relate.
Can we all agree that racing is racing? Let's be honest, I watched the Phoenix Indycar race and it was good in my honest opinion. F1 is too boring and the same two to three teams win all the time. NASCAR will have a growth spurt in the near future, I would hope so at least.
Agreed
*Hamilton makes a three wide pass for a triple overtake down the front straight and Bottas nearly takes out Vettel to win, but Vettel holds on in a cat and mouse tire conservation race. Also Pierre Gasly finished 4th with a mediocre team in a GP2 engine*
“F1 is boring.”
That's the exception rather than the rule, I'm afraid.
Josh Drake The entire race was amazing, and Perth was also a decent race.
I just cannot bring myself to watch essentially the same result over and over again. F1 (and racing in general) needs more upsets like in March Madness and the FA Cup to keep me interested.
What's the animation at the end from?
"technology none of us will dream to drive" I can name at least 20 things on your car F1 invented,
I can't say the same for nascar, in fact Im pretty sure nascar hasn't helped the motor industry at all
It's like comparing a triathlete to a body builder. Both are fit in their own respective areas, but overall they have drastically different ways of working out.
There's no side by side racing in NASCAR
Milton Valen There is tons of it, but only at certain tracks.
It's just drafting
I’m far more of an F1 fan than NASCAR but I’d never describe F1 as “pure racing”. Almost the exact opposite of that. I explain f1 to to non-fans as the kind of sport where your enjoyment as a spectator depends on you learning all sorts of aspects that have nothing to do with the race itself - I.e. automotive engineering, politics, team dynamics, personalities, pit strategy, etc. Probably over half of what makes f1 interesting doesn’t happen on the track. And again, that’s my statement as an f1 fan.
This enlightened me i feel like i got extra brain cells from this thank you david
You may want to watch some F2 on ESPNs online service great racing in open wheeled cars.
INDYCAR WILL BE THE TOP AMERICAN SPORT SOONER OR LATER. It’s 5 years better then F1 and Nascar. (My Opinion)
Indycar won't be better than f1. Same sport but f1 is faster and more demanding
There are less races in F1 because the races are so expensive, and the teams can’t handle it, F1 teams only have 3 engines for 21 races . A nascar could never do that
Gavin Garcia they also have to travel much further, to races all over the world.