I wouldn't shave my nutts for anything, or trim anywhere else down there either. All natural for me and my partners love it too. Leave your hair where it belongs. You'd be surprised how sexy it used to be when everyone didn't shave down there. No one had a problem then, so why invent one?
I'm just going to buy my first bike outright . That will give me plenty of time to research and look around and get exactly what I want without the hassle and the interest . I only need like twelve grand and so far I'm at 2.50 cents but my wife wants a candy bar so I guess I'm back to zero.
@mitchellteeters This comment is everything. I'd been in that boat for nearly a year. I'm so excited though. I'm so much closer to getting that bike. ❤️
same at my dealers. they heard my bike was paid off and only a couple years old. tried to get me to trade up for a gixxer 1000r and lock me on a payment. Wouldn't be much but they act like that bike was gonna be gonna next week. Still sitting there, and I still don't have a payment. hahaha
I had a dealership offer me a 12% interest with me having a credit score for 750. Called my credit union and they gave me a 4%. Always call around. Never take the dealers loan!
I wouldnt say never take dealer loans but i would go in there with other approval rates so you can give their banks a chance to beat it and maybe even get some free shit.. dont take the manufacture credit accts tho cus they are revolving accounts like any other credit cards and yea you can buy gear and accessories with that card on top of your bike but that will all be 20+%... save the money for gear and mods
How much did you pay and how much kilometers did your Z900Rs have ? I'm quite interested in getting one (as a first bike) but i find the price quite expensive
@@suns0o452 5 miles on the odometer, because I took her for a spin. A little over 12 grand after taxes. It's my first completely new bike. I call it my pandemic present.
@@suns0o452 I forgot to say that I wouldn't recommend this as a starter bike. It's a little touchy if you don't have good wrist control. Just a little throttle goes a long way on this bike.
You make it sound so easy, "Take your MSF course!" I tried, they were all booked up till October. Get a learners permit and schedule your course for the winter.
Walking away is powerful. I've gotten several call-backs from salesman who amazing found a way to provide me with a much better deal than they were previously offering.
As someone who used to be in car sales I can honestly say that 80% of the time a pushy salesman is not the salesman talking but the business or finance manager. Salesmen are essentially paid filters. You come in with a list of criteria and with our product knowledge we point you in the right direction. There's always some that think they're silver tongued devil's but in my experience it's the business or finance manager talking through them like a puppet 80% of the time. Most salesmen have an interest in what they're selling - people buy from people-but most managers only care about the salary and bottom line.
Generally that's not a big deal to dealers fyi. I sell cars for a living, and we hit the numbers by the end of the 3rd week. The last week is just gravy for us so we aren't aggressive at all
Dealer wanted me to pay/finance over $8,000 for various "coverages" and pre-paid maintenance on my Chief haha. When I said no the finance guy asked if I just didn't believe in the product. I asked if he didn't believe in the quality of the bikes he's selling :D Fun at the dealership, yay! :)
I tell this to every friend who buys a bike, end of the season! I got zero mile 2017 SV end of 2018, out the door for under 4k with added gear thrown in.
Corona has kind of screwed up my riding. The MSF course now costs 300+ at every location and community colleges don't offer them. Going through the DMV for licensing, super annoying, but bought my first bike and I'm very ready
I just bought a new used 2020 390 duke because of you. They bought it in 2019 and only had 180 miles when I got it. The lady broke her back right after buying it. I drove to San Antonio when I saw it. I saved a bunch of money just waiting for the right one.
That inro is no joke.. just traded in my 2020 MT 09. Had a deposit on the 2021 SP edition but delivery was going to be delayed until September. I'm an impulse buyer; test rode a 2021 BMW F900R.. it now resides in my garage. Just wow, what a bike. At ~50 years old I don't need to holigan, I need cool 270 crank 898cc twin rumble.
I've been riding since 1959 and finally did MSF course at age 65. I did live in OK for 14 yr. which didn't require a license if you had a car license. I bought my Versys X300 with cash. I bought it Dec.31. They gave a deal to get rid of it for their inventory on Jan.1.
Last Vulture On The Fence: I got a NOS 2017 Honda CBR 1000 R SP 2 $ 5000 under MSRP. They were originally pre order only,, but found a dealer in AZ that had one for 3 years on the floor. Sometimes I buy quick, but don't get bent over on the garbage fees. Sometimes I wait. I'm currently stalking a 2020 Tri Daytona 765 LE. Way over priced, new, and a bunch out there.
It’s like you know exactly what to post for me I’ve been looking at bikes for so long. And I’ve been to several dealers. I’ve never rode before. I’m considering the Kawi z650 and ninja 400. And I definitely don’t want to get screwed thank you for this. Yammer!
I can feel tip number 2 when I bought my bike I was originally looking at the heritage and then maybe a month or so later I went back in and ended up getting the iron 1200 sometimes you'll find something you like a lil bit better
I'm a big fan of buying used. There's tons of 2 - 3 year old bikes that some new rider (usually of a certain age) bought and didn't ride much. They usually have low miles and you can get it for close to half the price the person paid at the dealership. I bought a low milage 2 year old Moto Guzzi V7iii a couple years ago for half of what the original owner paid for it. I kept that bike a year then sold it for what I bought it for.
That's good advice. I got a two year old Triumph T-100 with 2800 miles for half price. The guy bought it , had a kid , and decided that he wasn't really into riding anymore. ,He wanted $5500, I gave him $5000.
Buying off season is what I did on my 2016 Triumph Scrambler. Got it for barely more than the used ones I was seeing and at a 2% interest rate. It was last years bike and they were moving to the newer water cooled model.
Do your research on the dealership too. Most dealers will charge servicing fees and detailing fees so don't be surprised when they try to add an extra $500 on to the sticker price. Some dealerships will also charge a cash buyers fee, there is one in my area that charges an extra $600 if you buy in cash
@@rickymahoney6664 yeah they make more money when they finance. Bank approved you for a 5% rate? Well the dealership tells you 10% and keeps the difference. Plus they can add an extra paperwork fee
@@rickymahoney6664 you really want to know? The internet. You’d like to think the profit margins on a bike is in the thousands, but it’s closer to hundreds. There’s no fat on the front end anymore. If there was it’d be cut to compete with every dealers online shit being visible to see. Yeah we make a few thousand. But the overhead on a massive building with dozens of staff and a ton of upkeep on the building, tooling, and bikes? Margins are razor thin on the front end. That’s why. This year is the first sellers market ever for vehicles. And people are not adjusting well.
I have poor credit, found out when trying to buy my parents put something in my name when i was 18 and fkd me on it. I tried getting a yzf r6 in texas, i mean like 5 dealerships. only fucks i got to say yes to my 40% down, they tried to pull me in with a intrest of 17% leading to a 12k bike being a 3 year pay off of 20k in total, this was ontop of the down payment. Tried a ninja 400 and the dealer just didnt even work with me on buying the bike off. i just gave up. Now im ready for next year for the sweet r7
any new bike you should reasonably expect to add at the very least 2k to the MSRP, just like buying a new car... you have title, registration, and destination charge (plus more random fees usually). I understand wanting to get the best price but ppl out here tripping when they realize they can’t get any new bike OTD for what the msrp is listed at. Like DUH 🙄
I think yammie´s advice regarding not buying new does not apply everywhere, im from Chile and i know how to get a dealership to uphold warranty, also there are public institutions like customer protection service that will help you mediate, and also just bad mouthing the dealer can get the trick done, however when buying a used bike from a regular person if the bije has a problem you would need to sue him, as a lawyer i can tell you that i rather send a drugged person to beat him rather than wait for several years for the trial to be over, so i always buy new, it gives me peace of mind.
never heard s bullshit like this from when i'm responsible of something i sold you a private citizen i didn't give a warranty nor anything when you buy it it's your problem i'm even surprised some lawyer dares to take a case like this
@@cristianseminario7899 dude i didnt understand what you meant, please use punctuations, o respondeme en español que es lo que no entiendes? "from when im responsible of something i sold you a private citizen" WTF you meant ¿quieres una lección de derecho en español, or one in english? who is gonna take that case, ¿what case? i just told you im a lawyer and i wouldnt touch it with a 6 foot pole? please write using your hands and not your butthole.
@@cristianseminario7899 in Chilean civil law you are responsible for faults in the thing that you are selling if you can prove 3 things; that they existed at the time of the sale, if they were hidden, and if have you known would have never bought it at that price, many clever mechanics can hide real problems for a while. The thing is you would need to sue that person to claim that money, while that is not generally necesary with an established dealer
I bought a Ninja 400 brand new. First time EVER buying a new vehicle. The second dealership almost "had me" with a Street Triple R @ 7% interest. To say that I almost signed this! Phew... I ended up taking the Ninja 400 at a third dealership @ 3.49% interest. Major difference and a much more adequate first bike! haha! If I can add something from my experience: Never sign something on the same day and every time that they offer you a deal, have it printed on paper with all the details and leave with the sheet. You now have a negotiating tool in your hand. Cheers!
@@yuriteixeira5816 I am in Canada. The bike was 6500 CAD and they forfeited additional fees because I bought the display bike. Usually, they add something like 250 admin fee and 250 freight fee and maybe another 100/200 for loan fees and "others". All CAD. Dividing by 1.3 will give you the rough USD amounts. Hope this gives you an idea.
I walked into a dealership today to check out some Hondas. One of the sales guys told me to look into shopping around the used market. Then said when I had a couple 1000 miles or more on a used older bike, come back and buy a new one if I wanted. Interesting sales tactic/tip lol
Better yet, just go to your bank or CU first. They will pull your credit once, the dealership may shotgun inquires and actually hurt your score. Get the info for what you can afford from them and your own intuition. Then take that info to any dealership.
Only time I can see it of benefit is if the dealer has some great savings deals if you finance through them. Take the deal, then immediately go get it refinanced.
I bought the last bike(in the crate) for the year, pick up the bike 2 weeks later, 2 more were sitting there. Also don't pay in full, when they put the bike together they will care less because it's already sold.
I got the wheel and tire protection for my bike and within the first 2.5 weeks of owning it I got a flat tire twice. Got it for 600$ just about and they’ve obviously covered both times. I am also from Austin and will never ride anywhere near a construction site ever again.
It’s hilarious you think anyplace other than a HD dealership actually has bikes in stock right now. I’ve been looking at a cbr650r, and the closest place that has one is 600 miles away.
Just bought my first bike new in cash im not even in the state. Heck im on the other side of the country in the bering sea. Cant wait for the next 4 months to pass so i can go home and ride.
I’m 17 and I’m buying a motorcycle for going to school and to get my credit score up I also live in texas it’s not really cold here very often and I only have to drive like 15 minutes to school and even less to work so it’s perfect for me
I would have added avoid/beware of destination charges, documentation fees, assembly fees and other dealer fees. Bikes are usually listed at MSRP (or now a days MSRP +), but that is not the out the door price at most dealers (excluding taxes, which unfortunately are unavoidable, like death). This can add up to a couple of thousand pesos. No buenos. Some dealers wont charge and others will waive with persistence. I personally avoid any dealer that is firm on fees. I have a great story on patience (funny the same story has a twist of lack of patience).
I couldn't believe how much my local dealer wanted in fees for a 2022 Husky Svartpilen 401. MSRP is $5,399....The OTD price they gave me was $6,600. that is absolutely insane.
In WV full coverage on a 1000cc supersport on a one vehicle policy is around 500 dollars with a 1000 dollar deductible. If you finance through a bank full coverage is necessary. If you have a Yamaha card you can get away with liability at first. I buy new machines in winter and keep them out up till riding season and start collecting add-ons. I never put add-ons that mess with tuning until around 1500 miles and its broke in.
Yamaha offered me 23% interest rate while a local credit union gave me 5% same bike same credit score. Large portion of the profits in these bikes are from the financing and one dealership outright wouldn't sell the bike if I had outside financing. 1 star review and move along.
Went to my local dealership for an oil filter this weekend. They had 5 bikes, an ATV and a riding lawnmower in the building. Nobody is buying new bikes because there are none to buy. Facts.
No kidding with the warranties. I financed a 2018 KTM 390 Duke. The bike was $4500. Ended up with a loan just over $8000 cause I got suckered into the warranties that I haven't even used yet.
Same with my Rebel 300, $4500 bike but ended up at $8000+ with warranties and gap insurance. I dont mind it much because its my first financial experience and it was the only dealer that actually gave me the chance to even try to get the loan without having a co-signer but I definitely learned my lesson. One day I will want to upgrade to a 1100 so I will be ready next time.
How much was the warranty and which type specifically ? I’ve got a 5 year extension, unlimited mileage warranty for $900 that’s full coverage 0 deductible
If you wait from July to December to get oldstock, then you have saved more cash and are more likely to get lower interest rates or even slam the cash down.
I'm lucky I have a good dealership. They're more into moving bikes and scheduling services than they are making a killing on the bikes. Got my Z900RS at 3.4%
Still trying to get a new bike, debating between ftr1200 and the new rebel 1100. Speaking of bad deals I paid 3800 usd for a "used" 2017 rebel 300 with abs that had 6 miles on it as a beginner. My interest is 28%. Made a mistake but I outgrown it after a month.
It really sucks having no credit. I could buy the bike I want cash and I can’t even get a Best Buy card lol. I honestly don’t know where to start. Obviously I don’t wanna spend all my savings and I don’t want some insane interest rate. I’m willing to pay half the bike up front but not paying 17% on the second half
Finance it and make sure it’s an open term contract. Pay the loan off after right away in full. That will help credit a lot , and you won’t be paying any interest either that way. But will still show as you taking out a loan for X amount and paying it in full early.
I just got a mt03 and i only went and got it to help my parents credit lol i was looking used but they wanted to go ahead and get me something brand new
I saw the one thing from craigslist video where he shows a honda CBR250 for $2100 in really good condition. thats what im on the lookout for this winter.
I'm wanting to buy a 2024 Eliminator SE and was thinking about getting it in the next few days (Dec 9 2023). Since the model year isn't even here yet, I thought maybe waiting till January, then the bike would be in it's production year, instead of earlier. If I bought on December 31 2023 after the Christmas crowd, but before the new year, would that deal be any better than January 31 2024, when folks aren't buying bikes? It won't be old stock because the model year will still be current for another year. I know the video suggests not to buy new, but I'm 60 and I know I don't want to upgrade later, make any repairs and I know I want the Eliminator and I do not intend on changing it out later. I want new because it will be my forever bike. Every month I wait, I save $300 more to put down, but then again I am 60 and I don't have a lot of time to wait.
@9:01 - I have to disagree, I know...surprise, huh? During the off-season is when people are buying for "good deals". The more people buying the less "good deals" you find. Sure, you can find those junkers at great bargains, but a nice bike will be sold toward the end of the season at the best prices. This "off-season" myth is one of those myths that's been debunked long ago. The best time to find a bike for the best deal is toward the end of the season, but still in the season. This way, people are thinking they'll be stuck with their bikes for the off-season, so they're more likely to bargain with you. If you wait until the season is over, then all the people looking to cash in on the "good deals" for end of year bikes will be flocking to the dealerships to buy their next bike. There's a reason why you can go into a dealership in October and find hardly any bikes sitting on the floor.
With the dealer add ons I will say I disagree but only for the GAP, GAP for me at least is more expensive through insurance than the dealer, lucky for me I checked it out before I signed papers but I will say if GAP is cheaper thru ur insurance do it. My cars gap was 108$ a month with the dealer vs 14$ a month thru insurance, while bike was the opposite, 24$/mo with my dealer vs 63$/mo with insurance
Bought my brand new bike yesterday.. what I did was al the extra's I wanted on the bike to be for free.. He didn't accept it at first.. "I can never give you that much discount". Alright mate! I'll check another dealer. Well you guessed it. I got my extra's for free. About 850$ of options.
The best way to not get screwed is to not buy a new bike or buy any bike from a dealer. There’s a bunch of lightly used in like new condition with low miles. Where I live there is no sales tax on private sales, so you save there.
Yam... I wish I had gotten the whhel and tire coverage. I picked up a nail in a tire days after buying a new bike... it was a rear on a rocket roadster. Not cheap hahaha
Honda Finance and Yamaha Finance are by far the best to finance a bike through and they tend to also have the best rates on part or better than the banks... though tangentially.. I nearly got a svitpilen 401 on a 3 year 0.99% APR because they wanted to get rid of it... and that would have been a great deal if I wanted the bike or was a svartpilen.
Only thing I think is bullshit is skipping wheel and tire. I pick up at least two nails a year. Especially if you live in a city that’s constantly under construction it’s the way to go. That $500 pays for itself after the first tire change. If you live in the middle of the desert or don’t do at least 5k miles a year. You can skip it.
Any advice on how to NOT GET SCREWED by the insurance company when buying your first new moto and it's your first moto ever? I contacted Geico for a quote on an Aprilia RS660 (love the Lava Red color scheme!!!) and I had them factor in completion of the MSF Safety Course. You won't believe this....wait for it........$7,000 a year for insurance! Simply outrageous. I'm 36, do not have any DUIs, recent accidents which were my fault, etc... If you all know of any tricks to get a reasonable rate or other companies that are actually fair to new riders, please let me know! Thanks!
Holy shit balls. First bike 2022 cbr650r worth about $12.5 CAD out the door with all fees etc. Got full coverage insurance quote as I needed the insurance to go for my actual road test on bike. 28 y/o no claims at all, or tickets in last 6 years but did have demerit suspension ~7 years ago $405 CAD/year without even having my license yet.
I financed my first bike (2018 ktmrc390) it was new old stock, zero miles for $4200. I paid it off after a year. I don't regret the purchase. The rc390 is the superior and sophisticated choice for a new rider.
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am getting a 1290 super duke r 2021😍
Relax relax my dude i am still watching yammie noob
I wouldn't shave my nutts for anything, or trim anywhere else down there either. All natural for me and my partners love it too. Leave your hair where it belongs. You'd be surprised how sexy it used to be when everyone didn't shave down there. No one had a problem then, so why invent one?
I'm just going to buy my first bike outright . That will give me plenty of time to research and look around and get exactly what I want without the hassle and the interest . I only need like twelve grand and so far I'm at 2.50 cents but my wife wants a candy bar so I guess I'm back to zero.
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I'm in the same boat lmao I hope to pay cash for my first bike
Hey it's been a year now...how much you holding? I'm yet to start saving
@mitchellteeters This comment is everything. I'd been in that boat for nearly a year. I'm so excited though. I'm so much closer to getting that bike. ❤️
Yea I started 3 months ago. Spent the first $1k getting the endorsement, helmet, and a few dinners to convince my wife lol
The bike my dealer said "wouldn't be there next week" is still there 3 months later.
Mine took 4 months to be delivered to the dealership 🤣
same at my dealers. they heard my bike was paid off and only a couple years old. tried to get me to trade up for a gixxer 1000r and lock me on a payment. Wouldn't be much but they act like that bike was gonna be gonna next week. Still sitting there, and I still don't have a payment. hahaha
@christophernayar6543 that's not bad for this market! How's the bike holding up?
I had a dealership offer me a 12% interest with me having a credit score for 750. Called my credit union and they gave me a 4%. Always call around. Never take the dealers loan!
Not always true tho. Sometimes the dealer will actually beat your bank’s rate, depending on your credit
MAPS CU is 2.99 %
I wouldnt say never take dealer loans but i would go in there with other approval rates so you can give their banks a chance to beat it and maybe even get some free shit.. dont take the manufacture credit accts tho cus they are revolving accounts like any other credit cards and yea you can buy gear and accessories with that card on top of your bike but that will all be 20+%... save the money for gear and mods
what if you have a 550 credit score what would you do
@@TheLadiesman0815 yup, the dealership's bank offered me 3.64 when my own bank offered 7.99. shop around yall!!!!
Try to spot any flaws. I found a small chip on the underside of the tank of my RS900 and they shaved $500 off immediately.
How much did you pay and how much kilometers did your Z900Rs have ? I'm quite interested in getting one (as a first bike) but i find the price quite expensive
@@suns0o452 5 miles on the odometer, because I took her for a spin. A little over 12 grand after taxes. It's my first completely new bike. I call it my pandemic present.
@@suns0o452 I forgot to say that I wouldn't recommend this as a starter bike. It's a little touchy if you don't have good wrist control. Just a little throttle goes a long way on this bike.
You make it sound so easy, "Take your MSF course!" I tried, they were all booked up till October. Get a learners permit and schedule your course for the winter.
I drove an hour each way every day for a whole weekend to get one within the time frame i wanted. It is hard, but possible
Haha. Jokes on you. I waited 4 weeks, less than a month for my course. Cry harder loser. 🤣🤣
@@theenzoferrari458 Toxic.
@@Hockeyguy8541 the only toxic one I see is you. Stay big mad.
@@theenzoferrari458 Bruh you're literally a stain on this community. gtfo
Pappa yams hasn't mention "twist of the wrist" In a while.
Walking away is powerful. I've gotten several call-backs from salesman who amazing found a way to provide me with a much better deal than they were previously offering.
As someone who used to be in car sales I can honestly say that 80% of the time a pushy salesman is not the salesman talking but the business or finance manager. Salesmen are essentially paid filters. You come in with a list of criteria and with our product knowledge we point you in the right direction. There's always some that think they're silver tongued devil's but in my experience it's the business or finance manager talking through them like a puppet 80% of the time. Most salesmen have an interest in what they're selling - people buy from people-but most managers only care about the salary and bottom line.
Glad somebody said it. I hate it when people assume I'm here to f them. I'm just trying to sell a car buddy
End of the month and end of the year. Most dealerships have a monthly quota. They will work with you.
Quarterly quotas are more likely
I paid cash for my bike I also told my buddy get this prepped I'm on the way to drive it home
And not end of summer?
Generally that's not a big deal to dealers fyi.
I sell cars for a living, and we hit the numbers by the end of the 3rd week.
The last week is just gravy for us so we aren't aggressive at all
Dealer wanted me to pay/finance over $8,000 for various "coverages" and pre-paid maintenance on my Chief haha. When I said no the finance guy asked if I just didn't believe in the product. I asked if he didn't believe in the quality of the bikes he's selling :D Fun at the dealership, yay! :)
Got a loan at the dealer for something stupid like 17%, just to get it out the door. Went to ufcu and got the rate down to 2%.
I tell this to every friend who buys a bike, end of the season! I got zero mile 2017 SV end of 2018, out the door for under 4k with added gear thrown in.
Corona has kind of screwed up my riding. The MSF course now costs 300+ at every location and community colleges don't offer them. Going through the DMV for licensing, super annoying, but bought my first bike and I'm very ready
I just bought a new used 2020 390 duke because of you. They bought it in 2019 and only had 180 miles when I got it. The lady broke her back right after buying it. I drove to San Antonio when I saw it. I saved a bunch of money just waiting for the right one.
Thank you Papa Yam, just the video I needed, getting my first bike in 3 weeks
Good luck m8. What you getting?
That inro is no joke.. just traded in my 2020 MT 09. Had a deposit on the 2021 SP edition but delivery was going to be delayed until September. I'm an impulse buyer; test rode a 2021 BMW F900R.. it now resides in my garage. Just wow, what a bike. At ~50 years old I don't need to holigan, I need cool 270 crank 898cc twin rumble.
I've been riding since 1959 and finally did MSF course at age 65. I did live in OK for 14 yr. which didn't require a license if you had a car license. I bought my Versys X300 with cash. I bought it Dec.31. They gave a deal to get rid of it for their inventory on Jan.1.
Last Vulture On The Fence: I got a NOS 2017 Honda CBR 1000 R SP 2 $ 5000 under MSRP.
They were originally pre order only,, but found a dealer in AZ that had one for 3 years on the floor.
Sometimes I buy quick, but don't get bent over on the garbage fees. Sometimes I wait.
I'm currently stalking a 2020 Tri Daytona 765 LE. Way over priced, new, and a bunch out there.
You nailed it. Just ordered a 2021 road glide special 2 days ago and trading in a 2020 sport glide when it arrives lol
My current one is a 21 model an do want a new one for the end of the year for more power baby
My 2107 honda grom in not a toy, it's my work horse. Use it for deliveries, 30k+ miles and still running smoothly
woah
Groms are great
It’s like you know exactly what to post for me I’ve been looking at bikes for so long. And I’ve been to several dealers. I’ve never rode before. I’m considering the Kawi z650 and ninja 400. And I definitely don’t want to get screwed thank you for this. Yammer!
Just do it!
Go for the ninja 650.2 of the bikes you want in 1 package 😉
I just got my first bike on Saturday. It’s an ‘01 Honda Rebel 250. Needs a bit of love, but it runs.
Nice work. Rock that Rebel. You’re gonna love it!
I can feel tip number 2 when I bought my bike I was originally looking at the heritage and then maybe a month or so later I went back in and ended up getting the iron 1200 sometimes you'll find something you like a lil bit better
I'm a big fan of buying used. There's tons of 2 - 3 year old bikes that some new rider (usually of a certain age) bought and didn't ride much. They usually have low miles and you can get it for close to half the price the person paid at the dealership. I bought a low milage 2 year old Moto Guzzi V7iii a couple years ago for half of what the original owner paid for it. I kept that bike a year then sold it for what I bought it for.
That's good advice. I got a two year old Triumph T-100 with 2800 miles for half price. The guy bought it , had a kid , and decided that he wasn't really into riding anymore. ,He wanted $5500, I gave him $5000.
Some dealers have left over new bikes at reduced prices.
The best way to not get screwed by the dealer is to win a new zh2...hint hint...please?
Just bought my first bike yesterday. 2006 Honda Nighthawk 9,000 miles for $1500
Buying off season is what I did on my 2016 Triumph Scrambler. Got it for barely more than the used ones I was seeing and at a 2% interest rate. It was last years bike and they were moving to the newer water cooled model.
Do your research on the dealership too. Most dealers will charge servicing fees and detailing fees so don't be surprised when they try to add an extra $500 on to the sticker price. Some dealerships will also charge a cash buyers fee, there is one in my area that charges an extra $600 if you buy in cash
What happened to cash being king? Really sucks they’d rather have you pay a little at a time to get the most interest outta you
@@rickymahoney6664 yeah they make more money when they finance. Bank approved you for a 5% rate? Well the dealership tells you 10% and keeps the difference. Plus they can add an extra paperwork fee
@@rickymahoney6664 you really want to know? The internet. You’d like to think the profit margins on a bike is in the thousands, but it’s closer to hundreds. There’s no fat on the front end anymore. If there was it’d be cut to compete with every dealers online shit being visible to see. Yeah we make a few thousand. But the overhead on a massive building with dozens of staff and a ton of upkeep on the building, tooling, and bikes? Margins are razor thin on the front end. That’s why. This year is the first sellers market ever for vehicles. And people are not adjusting well.
I have poor credit, found out when trying to buy my parents put something in my name when i was 18 and fkd me on it. I tried getting a yzf r6 in texas, i mean like 5 dealerships. only fucks i got to say yes to my 40% down, they tried to pull me in with a intrest of 17% leading to a 12k bike being a 3 year pay off of 20k in total, this was ontop of the down payment. Tried a ninja 400 and the dealer just didnt even work with me on buying the bike off. i just gave up. Now im ready for next year for the sweet r7
papa yams is literally the worlds best ball shaver salesman
For some unknown reason I want to keep watching Yammie Noob!
any new bike you should reasonably expect to add at the very least 2k to the MSRP, just like buying a new car... you have title, registration, and destination charge (plus more random fees usually). I understand wanting to get the best price but ppl out here tripping when they realize they can’t get any new bike OTD for what the msrp is listed at. Like DUH 🙄
I don't disagree about the rubber coverage, but I've picked up a nail like once a year here in San Antonio. lol
I think yammie´s advice regarding not buying new does not apply everywhere, im from Chile and i know how to get a dealership to uphold warranty, also there are public institutions like customer protection service that will help you mediate, and also just bad mouthing the dealer can get the trick done, however when buying a used bike from a regular person if the bije has a problem you would need to sue him, as a lawyer i can tell you that i rather send a drugged person to beat him rather than wait for several years for the trial to be over, so i always buy new, it gives me peace of mind.
never heard s bullshit like this from when i'm responsible of something i sold you a private citizen i didn't give a warranty nor anything when you buy it it's your problem i'm even surprised some lawyer dares to take a case like this
@@cristianseminario7899 dude i didnt understand what you meant, please use punctuations, o respondeme en español que es lo que no entiendes? "from when im responsible of something i sold you a private citizen" WTF you meant ¿quieres una lección de derecho en español, or one in english? who is gonna take that case, ¿what case? i just told you im a lawyer and i wouldnt touch it with a 6 foot pole? please write using your hands and not your butthole.
@@danielsaavedra8520 what i mean is if i sell you a used bike as a normal person and you have problems whit the bike what can you even sue me for?
@@cristianseminario7899 in Chilean civil law you are responsible for faults in the thing that you are selling if you can prove 3 things; that they existed at the time of the sale, if they were hidden, and if have you known would have never bought it at that price, many clever mechanics can hide real problems for a while. The thing is you would need to sue that person to claim that money, while that is not generally necesary with an established dealer
Uno que quiere comprarse una Ninja 400 y usadas las venden del año 2014 con 40 mil kms sin ABS a 3-4millones cuando nuevo vale 5.1m con ABS.
When you finished chanting in the Outro video, your pose gave me old man vibes lmao. Have a good day!
I bought a Ninja 400 brand new. First time EVER buying a new vehicle. The second dealership almost "had me" with a Street Triple R @ 7% interest. To say that I almost signed this! Phew... I ended up taking the Ninja 400 at a third dealership @ 3.49% interest. Major difference and a much more adequate first bike! haha! If I can add something from my experience: Never sign something on the same day and every time that they offer you a deal, have it printed on paper with all the details and leave with the sheet. You now have a negotiating tool in your hand. Cheers!
Usa? If so, mind me asking how much and what extra fees you were charged? I'm familiar with car fees, but not motorcycle ones
@@yuriteixeira5816 I am in Canada. The bike was 6500 CAD and they forfeited additional fees because I bought the display bike. Usually, they add something like 250 admin fee and 250 freight fee and maybe another 100/200 for loan fees and "others". All CAD. Dividing by 1.3 will give you the rough USD amounts. Hope this gives you an idea.
I walked into a dealership today to check out some Hondas. One of the sales guys told me to look into shopping around the used market. Then said when I had a couple 1000 miles or more on a used older bike, come back and buy a new one if I wanted. Interesting sales tactic/tip lol
Better yet, just go to your bank or CU first. They will pull your credit once, the dealership may shotgun inquires and actually hurt your score.
Get the info for what you can afford from them and your own intuition. Then take that info to any dealership.
Kia cost my credit score 100 points by applying for financing. Peak Kia it's a bad idea!
@@godinminaar9024 same is true for auto dealerships... tell them you will be bringing a cashiers check from your bank.
Only time I can see it of benefit is if the dealer has some great savings deals if you finance through them. Take the deal, then immediately go get it refinanced.
okay, that last "fact' was pretty awesome. Great video.
But Yammie, I HAd to upgrade to the new S1000rr because the 2021 model didn't have adaptive valve stems.
If you leave, don’t go back if they call you later. We can’t let the dealers play that game.
I've put nails purposely on tires to use wheel and tire countless times lol comes in handy
When to buy...Not always in the winter. In AZ, summer is the off season.
Taking my msf this weekend, picking up a bike next week. Can't wait.
2:05 I actually thought that was you.. 😂😂
I bought the last bike(in the crate) for the year, pick up the bike 2 weeks later, 2 more were sitting there.
Also don't pay in full, when they put the bike together they will care less because it's already sold.
This is a big brain video, take your time and listen, Papa yam has your back.
I got the wheel and tire protection for my bike and within the first 2.5 weeks of owning it I got a flat tire twice. Got it for 600$ just about and they’ve obviously covered both times. I am also from Austin and will never ride anywhere near a construction site ever again.
It’s hilarious you think anyplace other than a HD dealership actually has bikes in stock right now. I’ve been looking at a cbr650r, and the closest place that has one is 600 miles away.
I can't find any new bikes. All my dealerships, no matter the make, are empty. And forget about used bikes, they're asking just as much as new.
Correct! I’m in Houston and every dealer but HD is basically dry.
@@1985GusT we have plenty in Baton Rouge. For now at least
@@killernanny4315 The used MT-07s near me are around $2k higher than the new ones sitting on the same floors. I don't get it.
Just bought my first bike new in cash im not even in the state. Heck im on the other side of the country in the bering sea. Cant wait for the next 4 months to pass so i can go home and ride.
I’m 17 and I’m buying a motorcycle for going to school and to get my credit score up I also live in texas it’s not really cold here very often and I only have to drive like 15 minutes to school and even less to work so it’s perfect for me
Can you explain or do you have a video on when motorcycles are released each year? Example when does Honda release it's bikes for 2023.
Sprung for the wheel & tire coverage from the Dealer on a whim... Within the first 6 months I picked up 3 nails in my back tire.
Do you drive near a contrition site often or something ived been driving for the past three years and I have gotten one nail stuck in my tire
Construction*
@@juansantos5678 Nope. No new homes. All city driving. Just bad luck.
Thank you 🙏🏽 this Austinite (motorcycle) newbie is grateful for your insight
Thanks for the tidbit about old book smellz.
I would have added avoid/beware of destination charges, documentation fees, assembly fees and other dealer fees. Bikes are usually listed at MSRP (or now a days MSRP +), but that is not the out the door price at most dealers (excluding taxes, which unfortunately are unavoidable, like death). This can add up to a couple of thousand pesos. No buenos. Some dealers wont charge and others will waive with persistence. I personally avoid any dealer that is firm on fees. I have a great story on patience (funny the same story has a twist of lack of patience).
I couldn't believe how much my local dealer wanted in fees for a 2022 Husky Svartpilen 401. MSRP is $5,399....The OTD price they gave me was $6,600. that is absolutely insane.
i’m tryna find an mt07 which is msrp 7600 and the lowest i’ve been quoted is 9100
Guys get excited we at 900k subs...that turbo busa is coming along with all the turbo busa boi shenanigans 😜
In WV full coverage on a 1000cc supersport on a one vehicle policy is around 500 dollars with a 1000 dollar deductible. If you finance through a bank full coverage is necessary. If you have a Yamaha card you can get away with liability at first. I buy new machines in winter and keep them out up till riding season and start collecting add-ons. I never put add-ons that mess with tuning until around 1500 miles and its broke in.
Maybe it's because I lived my 20s like a Spartan...but I never finance a vehicle. If I can't buy it outright, then I can't afford it.
Yamaha offered me 23% interest rate while a local credit union gave me 5% same bike same credit score. Large portion of the profits in these bikes are from the financing and one dealership outright wouldn't sell the bike if I had outside financing. 1 star review and move along.
Went to my local dealership for an oil filter this weekend. They had 5 bikes, an ATV and a riding lawnmower in the building. Nobody is buying new bikes because there are none to buy. Facts.
Same way no one drives in LA because of the traffic :D
Sure you weren't at a garage sale?
Reality hit me like a truck, looking at msrp $4k bikes “it’ll be $90,000 out the door you forgot taxes and fees”
All good advice. I went to Cowboy Harley yesterday and they quoted me 10% down with over 17% APR for a Pan America lol. I'll be talking to RBFCU...
Thanks Papa Yam! This is very useful for people in other countries as well! :D
Used bikes cost more than new these days, not worth it.
No kidding with the warranties. I financed a 2018 KTM 390 Duke. The bike was $4500. Ended up with a loan just over $8000 cause I got suckered into the warranties that I haven't even used yet.
Lol you’ll probably need it for a ktm
Same with my Rebel 300, $4500 bike but ended up at $8000+ with warranties and gap insurance. I dont mind it much because its my first financial experience and it was the only dealer that actually gave me the chance to even try to get the loan without having a co-signer but I definitely learned my lesson. One day I will want to upgrade to a 1100 so I will be ready next time.
How much was the warranty and which type specifically ? I’ve got a 5 year extension, unlimited mileage warranty for $900 that’s full coverage 0 deductible
If you wait from July to December to get oldstock, then you have saved more cash and are more likely to get lower interest rates or even slam the cash down.
I'm lucky I have a good dealership. They're more into moving bikes and scheduling services than they are making a killing on the bikes. Got my Z900RS at 3.4%
Still trying to get a new bike, debating between ftr1200 and the new rebel 1100.
Speaking of bad deals I paid 3800 usd for a "used" 2017 rebel 300 with abs that had 6 miles on it as a beginner. My interest is 28%. Made a mistake but I outgrown it after a month.
It really sucks having no credit. I could buy the bike I want cash and I can’t even get a Best Buy card lol. I honestly don’t know where to start. Obviously I don’t wanna spend all my savings and I don’t want some insane interest rate. I’m willing to pay half the bike up front but not paying 17% on the second half
Finance it and make sure it’s an open term contract.
Pay the loan off after right away in full. That will help credit a lot , and you won’t be paying any interest either that way. But will still show as you taking out a loan for X amount and paying it in full early.
Watching from The Netherlands🤙🔥
I just got a mt03 and i only went and got it to help my parents credit lol i was looking used but they wanted to go ahead and get me something brand new
I saw the one thing from craigslist video where he shows a honda CBR250 for $2100 in really good condition. thats what im on the lookout for this winter.
I'm wanting to buy a 2024 Eliminator SE and was thinking about getting it in the next few days (Dec 9 2023). Since the model year isn't even here yet, I thought maybe waiting till January, then the bike would be in it's production year, instead of earlier. If I bought on December 31 2023 after the Christmas crowd, but before the new year, would that deal be any better than January 31 2024, when folks aren't buying bikes? It won't be old stock because the model year will still be current for another year.
I know the video suggests not to buy new, but I'm 60 and I know I don't want to upgrade later, make any repairs and I know I want the Eliminator and I do not intend on changing it out later. I want new because it will be my forever bike. Every month I wait, I save $300 more to put down, but then again I am 60 and I don't have a lot of time to wait.
i very much enjoyed yhe beginning of this video
Covid got my msf cancelled and rescheduled at the end of October...ughh!
@9:01 - I have to disagree, I know...surprise, huh? During the off-season is when people are buying for "good deals". The more people buying the less "good deals" you find. Sure, you can find those junkers at great bargains, but a nice bike will be sold toward the end of the season at the best prices. This "off-season" myth is one of those myths that's been debunked long ago. The best time to find a bike for the best deal is toward the end of the season, but still in the season. This way, people are thinking they'll be stuck with their bikes for the off-season, so they're more likely to bargain with you. If you wait until the season is over, then all the people looking to cash in on the "good deals" for end of year bikes will be flocking to the dealerships to buy their next bike. There's a reason why you can go into a dealership in October and find hardly any bikes sitting on the floor.
With the dealer add ons I will say I disagree but only for the GAP, GAP for me at least is more expensive through insurance than the dealer, lucky for me I checked it out before I signed papers but I will say if GAP is cheaper thru ur insurance do it. My cars gap was 108$ a month with the dealer vs 14$ a month thru insurance, while bike was the opposite, 24$/mo with my dealer vs 63$/mo with insurance
Had to stop the video 1:20 in because were calling me out too hard 😂
Bought my brand new bike yesterday.. what I did was al the extra's I wanted on the bike to be for free.. He didn't accept it at first.. "I can never give you that much discount".
Alright mate! I'll check another dealer. Well you guessed it. I got my extra's for free. About 850$ of options.
Different markets, different strategies.
Freedom Road had 1.9% rate on 2020 MV F 3 800 RC bikes.
Got one in August deeply discounted, to boot.
The best way to not get screwed is to not buy a new bike or buy any bike from a dealer. There’s a bunch of lightly used in like new condition with low miles. Where I live there is no sales tax on private sales, so you save there.
the thing is, walking away on a 650 class bike just means the next one will buy it for 1000€ more, this just works with bikes north of 10k
Not necessarily. I've done well on 400 and 650 cc bikes.
@@rudedog3529 well, here in germany the A2 restriced 650s are sold out before june ends, so.... no chance to bargain on them
Found a CBR 1000f drive train on Craigslist for $150 Speedo n wire harness with papers 2.500 miles
Great I am getting new Hayabusa I did pre order 👍🦅🇺🇸🦅🏍
Saved $800 by buying an old new stock bike, then when I went to trade it in for a bigger one I got about the MSRP back in trade value.
Yam... I wish I had gotten the whhel and tire coverage. I picked up a nail in a tire days after buying a new bike... it was a rear on a rocket roadster. Not cheap hahaha
You couldn't release this last week? Literally just bought my bike at msrp. Got a tracker, uv kit, and the warranty. Now I feel like a tool.
Honda Finance and Yamaha Finance are by far the best to finance a bike through and they tend to also have the best rates on part or better than the banks... though tangentially.. I nearly got a svitpilen 401 on a 3 year 0.99% APR because they wanted to get rid of it... and that would have been a great deal if I wanted the bike or was a svartpilen.
Only thing I think is bullshit is skipping wheel and tire. I pick up at least two nails a year. Especially if you live in a city that’s constantly under construction it’s the way to go. That $500 pays for itself after the first tire change. If you live in the middle of the desert or don’t do at least 5k miles a year. You can skip it.
Again with that Woods Cycle Country cameo
I like this video i like this page im going to subscribe now
Any advice on how to NOT GET SCREWED by the insurance company when buying your first new moto and it's your first moto ever? I contacted Geico for a quote on an Aprilia RS660 (love the Lava Red color scheme!!!) and I had them factor in completion of the MSF Safety Course. You won't believe this....wait for it........$7,000 a year for insurance! Simply outrageous. I'm 36, do not have any DUIs, recent accidents which were my fault, etc... If you all know of any tricks to get a reasonable rate or other companies that are actually fair to new riders, please let me know! Thanks!
Holy fuck! I thought the grand progressive wanted out of me was oppressive, shit!
Holy shit balls.
First bike 2022 cbr650r worth about $12.5 CAD out the door with all fees etc.
Got full coverage insurance quote as I needed the insurance to go for my actual road test on bike.
28 y/o no claims at all, or tickets in last 6 years but did have demerit suspension ~7 years ago
$405 CAD/year without even having my license yet.
I financed my first bike (2018 ktmrc390) it was new old stock, zero miles for $4200. I paid it off after a year. I don't regret the purchase. The rc390 is the superior and sophisticated choice for a new rider.
2021 390 Duke here, PIF, $5,500+$1,200 in fees/taxes etc..
“Go take the MSF, what are you waiting for”
I’m waiting for my class on the 27th :/
3:41 Cries in world of warcraft
98k to go Papa Yam....I can smell the turbo burning.
But the 2022 has more YEET energy babe! 😂