The Thing Review: Who Goes There?
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I really like the idea that 'The Thing' is an intelligent being and has consumed multiple worlds but humanity is the first time it's encountered another intelligent life and is freaking the fuck out.
I actually really like that concept as well
It's interesting. In sci-fi, it seems like aliens always react to humans with blind malice or preachy superiority. You don't see a lot of stories where aliens are terrified by humans or find them adorable. In Ender's Game, the aliens just don't understand that humans aren't a hive mind, but they're not disgusted and terrified by the concept.
So this is where Dead Space got its thing from.
@@TheGreenKnight500you could argue starship troopers is like that, but the psychology of the bugs isn’t really explored in the book.
There is a good movie I forgot the name of. Where an alien hive mind comes to earth. It shows it infecting countless “lower” life forms in the galaxy. It makes sense how infecting animals can be easy. Yet when it encounters intelligent life, it struggles.
Love it, love humanity. Monke make rock fly.
I love the directors commentary where John and kurt are laughing like maniacs through the whole movie
Carpenter: Wilford Brimley. Russell: HAHAHAHA!
Every Carpenter/Russell commentary track is gold
That's awesome 😂
I love the idea that the Thing hates MacReady with a fucking passion, especially after the blood test. I also like the idea that neither Childs and MacReady were the Thing and it was successfully killed. But it left such a psychological scar on both survivors that neither of them will take their eyes off of each other until whenever rescue arrives out of sheer paranoia.
On the flipside this is why I interpret Childs as the Thing at the end. It knows it can't defeat MacReady, so it just tries to outlast him.
@@jimjamauto But why would it even show up then, if it just needs to outlast him? Why not just hide until Macready freezes to death?
@@shorewall For the dumbest reason: to show the audience their final confrontation
This makes me miss the heart, work and soul that went into producing practical effects.
While I don't think that CGI should be completely shunned, it'd be nice if movie studios went back to what made classic horror great.
CGI is a case of treating a nail and hammer like the perfect omnitool even when a screw and drill would get the job done far better.
I remember showing this to my sister, she called it a boring stupid movie……
until the dog happened and she noped out. I love slow burners. And the “Tied to this couch” quote is my go to for vocal warmups.
I was enticed the second I heard Moricone's soundtrack.
I showed my family this movie and they said it was stupid and the effects were bad. Like my man it was made on a shoestring budget and they killed it with the practical effects. It was for MY BIRTHDAY they coulda just said it was good.
she is still your sister?
@@Greendawn-di3dlYou'd rather them lie to you on YoUr BiRtHdAy?
Not everyone likes the things you like.
Don't get mad when people tell you the truth.
@@jonahbrown5669 you seem fun.
what sucks even more about the The Thing (Prequel) is you can see how in love with the first movie the crew were, how they went too great lengths to make everything seen at the norwegian base in the first movie match up, and show how it all got there, from the dead Norwegian, to the axe, the ice bed, to the corpses and finally who the two men chasing the Thing Dog were. You could tell that they wanted it to be as faithful to Carpenters movie as they could get, but in the end Corperate butchered it, as they always do.
We're already infected.
Isn’t life just grand?
Or they just used it as the lazy way to write a script. "Just use whatever was in the first movie and fill in the gaps", the same as usual prequel garbage stories "and this is how I got my hat, and this is where I meet a guy, I once mentioned in other movie".
@@fnot804people like to say the cgi ruined it. It isnt amazing but its not the real issue. Real issue is its a mediocre 2000s monster movie with pieces of a better movie scattered around, ironically to disguise it as something it is not.
It's writing was garbage. It wasn't just the cgi.
Shout out to the thing video game on the PlayStation 2.
A very flawed game, but the idea of having squad members possibly being infected, is a very interesting idea in survival horror.
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Based on the scraps of interview material I could find, it was supposed to have a random infection chance mechanic amongst the NPCs. Meaning no same person would get infected on every playthrough. But unfortunately, amongst other interesting concepts the devs wanted to try, it got butchered due to the low budget. A shame too. The thing would've absolutely worked as a horror game.
@@frug5629 It didn't matter in the end anyway because whoever lived until the end of a level got infected anyway.
The game has a lot of issues but they did absolutely nail the atmosphere
Spoony's review of it was a lot of fun. The PC version also plays really nice with a modern fanpatch.
Oh hey, fancy seeing you here. A welcome surprise.
this is a movie you can speculate endlessly about because there's so many unanswered questions. So ominous and eerie. Complete movie magic.
"It looks too much like an 80's movie"
I...I just can't. Who the fuck are they getting to be the testers? Do they just grab people with no taste and so they can tell producers "Fuck this shit up fam".
That dog scene, as well as the mouth jaw scene lives rent free in my head to this day. Fucking loved this one a lot. Probably influenced my love of body horror and weird parasitical aliens too.
why would it pay rent in your head?
The Thing and the manga Parasyte found me around the same time I was dipping my toe into the horror genre and now I'm in the same camp with you. The dog scene is my favorite in the movie, I think.
This movie has infinite reward value because regardless of how many times you watch it, you will never be able to pin point when certain characters get infected. You could make an argument that Blair got infected early on or he got infected while he alone and locked in the shed. He might have destroyed the equipment to avoid any other infected crew members to contact the outside world or he could be infected and wants to avoid them trying to get help. There's no clear answer and I love that.
I really think Blair was infected after he was isolated. The Thing wants to get into society as much as possible. You will never find it then.
unfiltered kino, absolutely loved it. it will stay on my shelf till the heat death of the universe.
Kiss the DVD case goodnight
i'm gonna kiss you goodnight, nerd @@Senator-Wary
Gae
>.> I am still unfamiliar with the term "Kino"... unless it has something to do with "Kino's Journey".
@hariman7727 kino is modern zoomer speak for good I guess
At 13:50 you can also see that the Chess Wizard cheats to win, much like how the Thing "cheats" by absorbing people and stowing division amongst the uninfected
Its such great foreshadowing this movie is awesome my brother's favorite (definitely my favorite horror movie next to Jacob's Ladder)
It doesn't cheat. It's just bad continuity. But the chess game reflects what happens. Not just what Macready does, but the placement of all the pieces.
Regarding the original ending of the 2011 prequel, the idea of the Thing's spaceship not being actually its own comes from the original short story "Who Goes there?", where, upon finding out that the alien is a shapeshifter, the scientists realize that it had probably imitated the ship's crew as well. Personally, I think that a potential sequel to the 1982 original should take inspiration from The Departed (or more exactly from Infernal Affairs, which was remade as The Departed). We should follow the humans as they try to figure out who is an imitation, and also follow the imitations as they try not to give themselves away and take over the humans. Then you could explore some ideas that fans have droped over the years, like the Thing not wanting to assimilate all living creatures on Earth because it needs to feed on them, or the Soviets leaning about the Thing and trying to get a sample to weaponize it. You could even explore whether an imitation retains the thoughts and memories of all the creatures it has assimilated in the past, or if an imitation considers itself the new original because the true original doesn't exists anymore. There are so many things you can do, and yet what we got was just another lame prequel/remake.
My favourite horror film of all time.
Rest in Peace Wilford Brimley.
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Amazing series of videos, I've rewatched all the movies after finishing your vids
A few years ago, I was in a thrift store looking for audio electronics, and I stumbled across a Laserdisc player for less than $10, along with a few Laserdiscs for $1 each. I only recognized one of the discs, and despite not being much of a horror movie fan I picked it up with the player and brought it home -- it was John Carpenter's The Thing. I watched it and loved it. It's a brilliant film, even in letterboxed 480i. Honestly, I don't care that much about resolution. Sometimes low res can hide flaws in a film's special effects and make an experience more immersive (not that there are any real flaws in The Thing's effects -- they're some of the best practical effects I've ever seen). I also think that having such a . . . particular first experience with the film only enhanced the atmosphere.
The silhouette was Dick Warlock. I met him at a con this last summer and we had a good talk about it. He doubled for Kurt Russell since his Disney days and was there for that reason.
The Thing is my favourite movie of all time, and I think part of why ties into what I think is the only real flaw with the movie: the opening. The ship flying by and heading down to Earth.
The first time I ever saw the movie was just flipping through channels and stopping when I saw a dude shooting at a dog from a helicopter. It was so absurd and unexpected that I stopped to see what the hell was going on, and ended up watching the entire movie. And that feeling of not knowing what was going on, being in the exact same situation as the characters, really added a lot to my experience. That opening just kinda gives the whole mystery away. You know that, whatever is going on, it has something to do with space aliens. And I mean sure, it's revealed fairly early on but still, that initial lack of certainty was just perfect.
I never knew that the movie didn't start with the dog and helicopter scene. I agree that that's way better.
The Thing is one of my favorite movies ever since I first watched it in HS film class. Plus it’s great for scarring your younger siblings with.
Easily the best Lovecraft movie, and one of the best movies ever made. Funny how At the mountains of Madness heavily inspired both Alien and The Thing. It really makes you wonder what was the creature goals and what would happen afterwards, would life on Earth survive at all. Personally I assumed that the creature could not care less about humans, and just wanted to go away, I though it was building a spaceship in the basement. The Thing was basically a virus, if it was not frozen in the middle of nowhere, it would transform all life on Earth, there is no way to fight it, so if any part of it gets away, the question would be "how long the apocalypse would last", really classic Lovecraftian story. For all we know, it would spread around the world, build a spaceship and leave, similar to the Roadside picnic aka Stalker.
It really shows how believable they made it. You dont really need suspension of disbelief if whole thing is realistic. Uncovering some ancient virus, capable of wiping of humanity is completely possible, so if you watch it with impressionable people, you might say something about current finding in the Antarctica, to imply that the whole thing was basically a documentary.
PS. In regards to actors, the dog was the most amazing dog actor I ever saw. I didnt think it was possible to make a dog act this creepy.
The 2011 prequel would have been better if the crew went with a independent studio that greenlit the original effects and intendent story.
Honestly the ‘every cell’ thing seems to just be a simplified
In the original script there was a process for it to go: make a organ like spear, and that makes another thing from new bodies.
How disturbing would it be to have spikes and shit form in the mass of dogs and then finding out later ‘every spike would have become a dog’
And the image of a dozen bodies thrashing in pain and agony while this thing has spears running through them while eating them
It would’ve been fantastic and made the deaths seem more gruesome
The film Splinter is just like this, I bet you'd enjoy it
Hearing the fear and hunger intro at the start was like the audio equivalent of getting hit with a flash bang.
Now I want to see a live action Dead Space movie, directed by John Carpenter! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
You and me both.
my headcannon about the monster being dumb in the prequel is that this is the first time it's encountered humans and been properly challenged. it makes a lot of mistakes early on but it learns from them and becomes smarter and sneakier by the time of the original film. probably not intended by the film makers by any means, but it adds a nice layer to things
Could be interesting
The thing is capable of building a ship I'm pretty sure humans aren't the only intelligent being the creature encountered.
@@saldzbob9972 well of course we know that. I'm saying it's the first time its encountered anything that thinks or acts like humans, something thats fundamentally alien to it. maybe it learned about ships from assimilating the aliens on the ship at the start of the movie?
If they do make another movie in this franchise, I want to see a unique moment that has yet to happen in these films, every time the Thing is discovered, it transforms and attacks everyone in the room, but in this incident, I want it so that no one has weapons at this point and one of them is discovered as the Thing, for a brief moment it looks like it's ready to transform into a monster, but one of the humans tries to plead with the Thing asking what dose it want and why is it doing this, and for this moment, the Thing responds for itself and not as the person it's impersonating, and for this one moment we may get a glimpses into the Thing's mind, and depending on its response we'll know what it may think of us, like if it is a simple animal trying to survive it will say something along those lines, if it sees us as monsters it will also say something that paints it in a understandable light, or if the Thing is truly evil, it may say something terrifying, whatever its response it will still attack, but now we know what its true intention is, some may think that could be too much information but I think it could be interesting to find out if the Thing is just as misunderstood creature or a true monster to be feared.
There was an episode Southpark that had a part inspired by the Thing . The episode where they were trying to figure out who in the class had lice . Carman was wearing coat like Kurt Russell's and told the other kids if they put fire to a drop of their blood would react and Kyle points out that's not going to work he that Cartman got the idea from the Thing skeptical that it would work.
Where are those audio clips of Odenkirk from? I’d be interested in hearing the rest of what he had to say about the film.
My parents grew up with the original fifties adaptation "The Thing from Another World", and when they heard there was a remake, they eagerly went to see it in theaters....and were extremely horrified by what they saw. So, growing up, all I ever heard was that this movie was Bad. The edited version came on the Sci-Fi channel (yes, it wasn't always the syphilis channel) and I decided I was gonna watch it. After all, I was a very sheltered fourteen-year-old girl, I can take it.
The moment the dog's face peeled like a banana, I backed the f*ck out. Took me years before I finally watched it again and realized that this was an absolutely BRILLIANT film, and is one of the only ones that fooled my husband. He is uncanny about how fast he figures out twists and mysteries, but this one fooled him. When he told me his guess during the blood scene, I had to remain calm because I was so thrilled that he guessed WRONG about who it was.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that my favorite bit of trivia still remains that Stan Winston refused to put his name in the credits because he wanted Bottin to get all the credit.
(I don't see my comment here so i'll say it again just in case.)
I recomend any fans of this movie to look for the alan dean foster novelization which has parts of the original film script. I also recomend any fan of this movie looks for the scripts online of the cancled thing sequel series for the Syfy channel. The script was fully written with a beginning and end with an awesome cliff hanger.
The 2011 movie also contradicts the carpenter film massively with the space ship, the carpenter film establishes that the Norwegians destroyed the UFO that the thing came in, detonating thermite charges that made the ice on top of the ship cave in and crush it to pieces. in the 2011 movie the UFO is still in one piece after almost all the Norwegians are dead
It's a shame that the Remake or... Prequel, whatever that 2011 movie is supposed to be, was ruined by focus groups. The practical effects looked great, and that idea of 'The Thing' being a prisoner on the alien ship and having escaped, infected the other prisoners and crew, leaving the pilot to kill themselves... an ALIEN pilot, chose suicide over trying to fight this parasite... it reminds me of the Space Jockey corpse in 'Alien' (Even if that one was killed by the alien, not itself).
How the cycle continues no matter the species, this parasite is a menace to every living thing no matter how advanced. Really makes you think what kind of damage it could do, not to just Earth, but the whole universe if left unchecked.
Coming to think of it, The Flood from Halo series might have been directly inspired by The Thing. I know very little about Halo so I have no idea if this is a well-known fact or not.
@@TheBatman39 Probably
I must correct 1 thing:
Moricone did the symphony music. Alan Howarth & John Carpenter did the synth score.
I want to see AlmightyLoli to play the The Thing game remaster, am curious what he'll talk about for the changes.
I love showing this movie to people who haven't seen it. When it ends, every single one of them says "That's it?! Who was infected?!". I shrug my shoulder and say "Who do YOU think is real or not?", and I smile.
One huge issue with the fillings and other things being a "test" on the prequel, is that The Thing is show to NOT be dumb. It really couldn't just transform one of its teeth into a shape that can accept a filling and pass the "test". Hell, The Thing can WEAR CLOTHES, so the fact that it doesn't walk around naked everywhere means it understand inanimate objects and how to wear them.
I never found a single frame of this movie boring. It's incredible. One of my personal favorites.
Now I know the woes of the prequel. Corporate focus testing has killed so many interesting and fun projects and made them worse. For video games, there's Fuse/Overstrike given the direction they went with Sunset Oversrive, and then there's movies like the Thing prequel.
I really love the ending of this movie, since your left to your own interpretation on who is the creature which adds a bit of dread before you finish watching the movie.🐱
I've always preferred to believe they're both human in the end. Although, even if they both tried another blood test and trusted each other, they'd have a lot of difficulty surviving the cold. They're both too exhausted for any of that though. There's a chance they'll figure something out, trust or no trust, but in the meantime, they're just in shock from it all.
Even if one of them are infected, we don't know if the Thing can get tired in the first place. Maybe if one of them is infected, it's pretty much given up and done with it all too. It's a draw for both of them. Neither party has any real winning condition unless the Thing can survive be frozen again and recovered by humans later.
@@TheGreenKnight500 That's my theory too: The humans won, but at the cost of everyone at the bases.
Watched this a few days ago. One of my all time favorites.
Ever since hearing about how bad the remake prequel got jobbed, I always wondered what would've come out if the crew were left to their own devices. Their effects looked so good before the cgi.
Sus.
For real though, those monsters are absolutely inspiring. Could only dream of creating something that looks so convincingly vile.
Sorry but Chiles is The Thing at the end Mac is human. All the evidence needed is presented in the film to determine this from a audience pov.
When we met Mac in Act 1, he has alot of empty liqour bottles and only find 1 full one which he drinks to around act 2 when one of the other character ask for some of his good liqour Mac says he is all out...
What does Mac use to blow up the base in Act 3? Tnt but more importantly the molotov cocktails he makes (its not stated but directly implied) from his supply of empty bottles.....
Thus at the end of the film when Mac seemingly hands a bottle of Liqour to Chiles but all the liqour is gone and during the previous scene we see he has molotov cocktails so when Chiles drinks with no reacti Mac knows he is The Thing , Mac forced a Draw from a losing position ( this is referenced by the chess computer scenes to set up the ending)
If your Lil review doesn't explain the chess computer scenes then you literally are ignoring a major part of the film ....
There is no way Childs is human. I know it's left open ended (which I love). But you can't tell me this man (Childs) who was super paranoid and willing to let Mac freeze to death on the assumption that he may or may not be the Thing is all good to walk out in the dark winter because he "thought he saw Blair" yeah right. And he clearly COULDN'T have seen Blair since Blair was already I'm the generator room cutting the lights since it cut the lights seconds after Nauls saw Childs.
Damn my man really using the F&H stinger, instant like
When can we expect Gintama review Mr.Loli
Ah, someone of culture ^_^
Dont think we dont notice the Yakuza substory music
I played the ps2 game as a kid, I liked what they were trying to do but the hardware wasn’t there at the time. Kind of wish we got a remake now with the technology we go
I thought the shadow was of Norris the first time I watched this.
Finally! Someone who has the same feeling about THE THINGS as me! It's not bad. If it was a original story I'd probably like it a lot more, but as fanfiction for the movie I do not enjoy it.
Funny you mention The Hateful Eight because when watching it with a friend he suddenly blurted out "This is just The Thing but with cowboys!" which really took me out of the movie!
Have you seen City of God? That shit is so good
Thanks for Nauls breakdown so many people who cover this movie gloss past him.
after finally getting around to watching the Thing prior to Halloween time, this film is my new comfort movie (morbid to say, i know especially with the dogs scene). As in any chance i can get, i’ma watch this again & again; its that masterfully written👌🏾
Also agreeing with the collective braincell on letting Carpenter cook with live action Dead Space movie, especially with the modern audience being more receptive to body-gore violence in horror films this time around!
I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time, I'd rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!
Is that just an Ai bob odenkirk being used?
This is a genuine question: are Bob Odenkirk sections AI reproductions or are they actual audio of him talking about the films? 😭
Horror Express is a miles better "prequel" to The Thing. Hell, it was even made before it.
Favorite Sci-Fi Horror film of all time!
Loli, love your videos but you gotta step up your thumbnail game. I legit stared at this vid in my subscriptions for a solid minute before realizing what it's about, even clicking it just because it's you and I hadn't seen your videos in a while.
Love the content, keep it up, and I wish you best of luck, but that's just an area for improvement imo.
The Thing was the horror movie that got me into horror. Everything is so masterfully done
I use to have The Thing game, several posters, a bunch of comic books, and an action figure of MacReady. I fucking LOVED The Thing when I was a kid.
Didn't watch it until I was 22. Was too scared.
Lol
You get any of the new NECA figures yet? The dog is a gorgeous, detailed set
I like the prequel, ofc it has many flaws but passion is there and I cant overlook it.
You should watch “Threads” from 1984, an absolutely fantastic nuclear war movie and the scariest movie ive ever seen
It still blows my mind that people hated this movie when it first released. Very few movies that I've seen have managed to hold that tense atmosphere through an entire film. And the practical effects are top tier.
I think it was just one of those pieces of media that was made in the wrong time and place. Plus, critics are idiots and we didn't have the internet back then to allow more independent discussion.
Normie audiences are dumb and are actively detrimental to creativity.
It came out the same year as ET, so it got a bad rap because it wasn't a feel good "aliums are frens!" movie.
So it basically suffered the same issue as Outlaw Star being accused of not being as good as Cowboy Bebop... bad timing in close proximity to another beloved classic.
Most professional "movie critics" of the period hated horror movies. Especially gory ones. Some would go on agitated rants about them like clockwork.
The only way people heard/read something good or bad about movies back then was via those reviews, or word of mouth from someone who took a blind leap. The latter was related to marketing via TV commercials so if a film didn't get much marketing it didn't get as much notice. I suspect it was a combination of these things which meant some of the old greats just didn't get much attention from audiences when first released.
@@NefariousKoel True. Honestly, the more I see of Ebert and Siskel's "reviews," the more I question why people valued their opinion. They were idiots.
I consider this to be better than Halloween with its storytelling, characters and suspense. A true horror John Carpenter masterpiece
I think its better than alien to.
It's a masterpiece period that trumps literally any horror film made since its inception.
Watched this for the first time with all my siblings a few months back. One of the best horror movies I had ever seen. Loved the story, the ambiguity, and the practical effects. Truly a masterpiece.
I agree with your interpretation that McCready and Childs are human at the end but don't know that and are still suspicious of each other. I think that speaks most to the human nature element to the story.
Funny enough the game adaption actually confirmed this
So true
That's exactly how I've always interpreted the ending. Again, it feeds into the paranoia for both men.
@@nickmcgowan6932 But wait, wasn't there a comic book continuation that revealed that Childs was the thing the whole time? Did the game and comic contradict eachother or are one or both non-canon?
@@WeegeeSlayer123 Personally I consider all of the extra The Thing add on stories to be hypothetical situations and non necessarily canon.
The dog chase are another example of how much the script quality in Hollywood have regressed. A simple scene that give all the background information you need, without giving anything away. Something we just don't see today
Wondering if the test audiences and producers who were saying "there's too much backstory, the effects look like they're from the 1980's" to the original iteration of the prequel movie were the same species of people who demanded Event Horizon cut all those (now lost) scenes that were cut from the movie for being "too gory".
Too gory. In a horror movie.
Event Horizon isn't that great either way.
I heard the prequel movie had loads of real, practical effects and puppet work as a kind of respectful nod to the John Carpenter version. The studio intervened and a ton of film was cut because they were scared modern audiences wouldn't like the puppetry and practical effects work, so whole swathes of the movie had to be reshot with CGI.
A shame, I wonder what that movie would've been like had the the suits not intervened.
He says that in the video
I feel like the CGI was a good option for scenes that are mainly running sequences for the Thing. I just don’t think I could take someone in a suit seriously.
21:29 I like this interpretation the best too. It really hammers on the point that, regardless of their victory against the alien, these two men are still doomed, as help is extremelly unlikely to come and they'll probably both freeze to death unable to trust each other.
The whole studio interference and screen testing thing with the 2011 Thing will never not piss me off. It enrages me when you see a group with passion behind the scenes get shafted by the studio. It had a lot of potential.
If you think that’s disappointing, there was a planned TV-miniseries sequel to the original movie that was going to air on Sci-Fi Channel in 2005 called ‘Return of The Thing’, but it was sadly never made.
The writing was just bad man. Studio interference made a mediocre, by the numbers horror film more bad. Good Effects wouldn't have saved it.
The Thing was shown in local cinema a couple of weeks ago. The theatre was packed full, around half were young people (I almost felt warmth in my hollow chest). At the end people were clapping and cheering. Amazing.
I took my kids to see it last year.
carpenter bringing Dead Space to live action would be pretty frickin' rad to say the least
There’s a few assumptions made here about who’s infected and when. Blair destroying the helicopter doesn’t mean he was infected then - he could’ve still been himself then and was only infected afterwards (when he was locked up?). Then the Blair-Thing knew the helicopter and snow cat were disabled by Blair, but that it could still use pieces to make its own thing. We also don’t know who was infected by the dog: could’ve been Palmer or Norris.
Zack Cherry has done a decent breakdown of who killed who in The Thing.
Don't remember where I heard this, but I was told that there's intentional plot holes to keep people guessing who got infected when.
The "Blair going nuts" scene was shortly after the computer sim scene predicting the end of the world, so I always felt he was still human at that point. Recently, however, I noticed that he touches the corpse of the dog-thing with his pencil eraser and then touches his lips with it, so who knows? I could be either he was infected at the autopsy of the dog-thing or some piece of the dog-thing escaped being burned and infected him when he was sedated and locked in the hut.
@mmilley Blair would have still been human when he killed the dogs and smashed the chopper. The thing would have no reason to deprive itself of transportation it coulduse to make contact with a greater number of hosts.
No yeah. If Blair really was infected when he was destroying the helicopter and everything, why would he have presumably tried to off himself when he was in isolation?
It would make no sense for the creature to have tied a noose to kill itself because obviously its primary goal is self preservation judging by alien Blair's later actions and the noose makes Blair look extremely suspicious if anyone decides to check in on him for whatever reason.
Plus, it makes way more sense if Blair was human up until some time while he was isolated as he found out that this alien has a very high chance of killing everyone leading to him trying to keep the alien contained in the base by destroying all possible escapes. So, when he is put into isolation and truly believes that everyone is doomed, he ties a noose and tries to die instead of letting himself possibly be assimilated and aid the alien. I am guessing his attempt was interrupted by one of the aliens coming in and assimilating him and just leaving the noose up because the thing didn't understand what a noose was or the intentions behind it.
It is all really pure speculation and I could be missing out on a really obvious explanation for why an assimilated Blair would make a noose but, to me, the noose makes it pretty obvious that Blair was not assimilated until some time into his isolation.
I’d say this is absolutely Carpenter’s best, and as much as I love Halloween, I don’t think you can deny that he perfected his craft in pretty much every aspect from that movie to The Thing
You’ve played fear and hunger haven’t you. I recognize that intro music. It’s a very special game. It’s the only game/story I’ve experienced that has matched some of the fascinating cosmic horror aspects of berserks world building. Granted it took direct inspiration from it, see le’garde aka griffith, except worse things happen to him.
One of the greatest movies ever made. The critics did not understand it and I’m glad it is now getting the love that it deserved.
I can't wait to get a remake/reboot/sequel with an all female cast that doesn't live up to this movie like everything else I love has gotten.
Don’t look up ‘the thing 2024 trailer’
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It’s worse than I could’ve imagined
One of the best horror movies and use of practical effects ever in a movie.
Also the mad lady flying the helicopter actually offered to really crash the helicopter
Which means the guy Lars was supposed to die in the crash and then shaken fork the crash die to the grenade he sought to use on the doggo.
And the fact ‘oh hey how are we gonna get a smoke trail for the shot’
To wish… ‘you don’t want to know’ or someone saying it would make them mad.
Yup they set up tires and set them on fire for the smoke trail shot.
Also in the book Alan continues to rely a lot on the script and we get some really good details
"The Thing" has to be one of the very best horror movies ever made, especially with the pracrical effects. The ambiance and how hopeless the situation truly is.
The thing in my opinion is one of the greatest films of all time.
Not an opinion, but a fact.
Big Bang Theory : I made scientifics and geeks cool !
The Thing : Shut up and get me a whisky kid...
Yes finally someone who agrees that they are both human in the end. It's the most appropriate ending considering a major theme of the movie is paranoia. Having one "actually" be infected feels too standard.
I saw one theory that the chess game mirrors the ending, but yeah I like that idea too. The only real question is what was in that bottle.
i wanted them to do a dead space movie so bad
Before I even watch the video, I'd like to share my own interpretation of the ending. We know The Thing is protective over its every cell. Wether Childs's bottle contains alcohol, or kerosine, is irrelevant, they are both poisons that destroy cells. It wouldn't drink it, or at least would have reacted very violently. I think both Childs and MacReady are humans and the day was indeed saved. Or maybe I'm just a sucker for good endings.
The absolute best horror movie that I’ve ever seen, mainly because of the smart characters being played and their brilliant acting. I remember seeing it when I was 14 years old not knowing anything about the film and just being consumed by the whole thing pun intended
14:40 he would be Creole not Cajun, Cajuns are white people of French descent and Creoles are black people of French descent
Strong contender for the greatest horror movie monster or maybe even outright horror movie antagonist of all time. And what do we call it, just, The Thing. It's perfect.
It’s a classic for a reason bros🤔
26:00 A prequel could have had potential, if it it had been written, directed and acted by Scandinavians. How the prequel spoils itself is that it reveals the monster too early when there is no reason to do that, there has been no instigating situation for everyone to be on edge, so it could have started out very slow, with the Norwegians being unaware that the creature that thawed from the ice is a shapeshifter, so when they are out hunting for it, at first they might just think it's run off into the wilderness and frozen again and it wouldn't be until much later that some of the men start to realise what's going on.
Event Horizon review.
Please, pretty please.
This is literally one of the best movies in my opinion. Period. The first movie I bought with my own money was The Thing. I’m beyond elated that you’ve covered this film. Thank you brother.
18:08 Haven't seen the movie in a long time but doesn't the other guy with a flamethrower kind of stand there and lets himself be killed after Mccready's malfunctions? The movie is great but that was rather contrived
31:20 This actually sounds like a very interesting concept, I can see why corporate would sabotage it!
@TheAlmightyLoli Have you ever seen a movie called "The Void"? If not, I'm pretty sure you would like it. It has practical effects that are comparable to The Thing. I know that is a bold statement, but it is definitely worth a watch.
John Carpenter directing a Dead Space movie might be neat, but I'm not going to watch a straight Dead Space adaptation. A prequel in the same vein as Dead Space: Downfall would make more sense, as it has more people to interact with, showing The Marker's effects on human psychology and biology.
I regard The Thing to be the greatest horror movie ever made. The practical effects make it special and the focus group people who whined about the practical effects looking too 80s need to have the dumb beaten out of them with pool noodles studded with used gum in foil wrappers.