The Thing Review: Who Goes There?

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  • @thelurkerbel0w
    @thelurkerbel0w 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1141

    I really like the idea that 'The Thing' is an intelligent being and has consumed multiple worlds but humanity is the first time it's encountered another intelligent life and is freaking the fuck out.

    • @twilit8162
      @twilit8162 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

      I actually really like that concept as well

    • @TheGreenKnight500
      @TheGreenKnight500 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +251

      It's interesting. In sci-fi, it seems like aliens always react to humans with blind malice or preachy superiority. You don't see a lot of stories where aliens are terrified by humans or find them adorable. In Ender's Game, the aliens just don't understand that humans aren't a hive mind, but they're not disgusted and terrified by the concept.

    • @pariahdark1892
      @pariahdark1892 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      So this is where Dead Space got its thing from.

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      @@TheGreenKnight500you could argue starship troopers is like that, but the psychology of the bugs isn’t really explored in the book.

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      There is a good movie I forgot the name of. Where an alien hive mind comes to earth. It shows it infecting countless “lower” life forms in the galaxy. It makes sense how infecting animals can be easy. Yet when it encounters intelligent life, it struggles.
      Love it, love humanity. Monke make rock fly.

  • @cult4564
    @cult4564 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +654

    I love the directors commentary where John and kurt are laughing like maniacs through the whole movie

    • @TheAutistWhisperer
      @TheAutistWhisperer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

      Carpenter: Wilford Brimley. Russell: HAHAHAHA!

    • @metalmugen
      @metalmugen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Every Carpenter/Russell commentary track is gold

    • @MellowMutant
      @MellowMutant 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's awesome 😂

    • @paulwaterman1322
      @paulwaterman1322 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You can hear ice clinking in glasses and cigarettes being lit the entire time.

  • @thegrandnope7143
    @thegrandnope7143 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +418

    what sucks even more about the The Thing (Prequel) is you can see how in love with the first movie the crew were, how they went too great lengths to make everything seen at the norwegian base in the first movie match up, and show how it all got there, from the dead Norwegian, to the axe, the ice bed, to the corpses and finally who the two men chasing the Thing Dog were. You could tell that they wanted it to be as faithful to Carpenters movie as they could get, but in the end Corperate butchered it, as they always do.

    • @TealWolf26
      @TealWolf26 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      We're already infected.

    • @theblackswordsman5039
      @theblackswordsman5039 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      Isn’t life just grand?

    • @fnot804
      @fnot804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Or they just used it as the lazy way to write a script. "Just use whatever was in the first movie and fill in the gaps", the same as usual prequel garbage stories "and this is how I got my hat, and this is where I meet a guy, I once mentioned in other movie".

    • @asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725
      @asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      ​@@fnot804people like to say the cgi ruined it. It isnt amazing but its not the real issue. Real issue is its a mediocre 2000s monster movie with pieces of a better movie scattered around, ironically to disguise it as something it is not.

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It's writing was garbage. It wasn't just the cgi.

  • @Blahblahblah28504
    @Blahblahblah28504 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +124

    I love the idea that the Thing hates MacReady with a fucking passion, especially after the blood test. I also like the idea that neither Childs and MacReady were the Thing and it was successfully killed. But it left such a psychological scar on both survivors that neither of them will take their eyes off of each other until whenever rescue arrives out of sheer paranoia.

    • @jimjamauto
      @jimjamauto 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      On the flipside this is why I interpret Childs as the Thing at the end. It knows it can't defeat MacReady, so it just tries to outlast him.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      @@jimjamauto But why would it even show up then, if it just needs to outlast him? Why not just hide until Macready freezes to death?

    • @jimjamauto
      @jimjamauto 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@shorewall For the dumbest reason: to show the audience their final confrontation

    • @baldrofasgard4793
      @baldrofasgard4793 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Childs was a confirmed thing,but that idea was better imo

    • @Blahblahblah28504
      @Blahblahblah28504 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@baldrofasgard4793 Yeah the idea definitely feeds on the paranoia aspect of the movie. Though honestly, I just don't believe Childs is a Thing because it would make the end too bleak.

  • @shortbushero
    @shortbushero 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +409

    I remember showing this to my sister, she called it a boring stupid movie……
    until the dog happened and she noped out. I love slow burners. And the “Tied to this couch” quote is my go to for vocal warmups.

    • @goukeban6197
      @goukeban6197 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I was enticed the second I heard Moricone's soundtrack.

    • @Greendawn-di3dl
      @Greendawn-di3dl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I showed my family this movie and they said it was stupid and the effects were bad. Like my man it was made on a shoestring budget and they killed it with the practical effects. It was for MY BIRTHDAY they coulda just said it was good.

    • @PeterPan-cy7oy
      @PeterPan-cy7oy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      she is still your sister?

    • @jonahbrown5669
      @jonahbrown5669 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@Greendawn-di3dlYou'd rather them lie to you on YoUr BiRtHdAy?
      Not everyone likes the things you like.
      Don't get mad when people tell you the truth.

    • @Greendawn-di3dl
      @Greendawn-di3dl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@jonahbrown5669 you seem fun.

  • @livecoilarchive1458
    @livecoilarchive1458 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +285

    I agree with your interpretation that McCready and Childs are human at the end but don't know that and are still suspicious of each other. I think that speaks most to the human nature element to the story.

    • @nickmcgowan6932
      @nickmcgowan6932 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      Funny enough the game adaption actually confirmed this

    • @MellowMutant
      @MellowMutant 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So true

    • @justafanofnerdculture7602
      @justafanofnerdculture7602 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That's exactly how I've always interpreted the ending. Again, it feeds into the paranoia for both men.

    • @WeegeeSlayer123
      @WeegeeSlayer123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nickmcgowan6932 But wait, wasn't there a comic book continuation that revealed that Childs was the thing the whole time? Did the game and comic contradict eachother or are one or both non-canon?

    • @dannyknightblade4592
      @dannyknightblade4592 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@WeegeeSlayer123 Personally I consider all of the extra The Thing add on stories to be hypothetical situations and non necessarily canon.

  • @Crazozourus
    @Crazozourus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    The Thing was shown in local cinema a couple of weeks ago. The theatre was packed full, around half were young people (I almost felt warmth in my hollow chest). At the end people were clapping and cheering. Amazing.

    • @statzuno
      @statzuno 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I took my kids to see it last year.

  • @grejsancoprative
    @grejsancoprative 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +208

    The dog chase are another example of how much the script quality in Hollywood have regressed. A simple scene that give all the background information you need, without giving anything away. Something we just don't see today

  • @melgibsonafter5beers329
    @melgibsonafter5beers329 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +190

    This makes me miss the heart, work and soul that went into producing practical effects.
    While I don't think that CGI should be completely shunned, it'd be nice if movie studios went back to what made classic horror great.

    • @hyperdimensionbliss
      @hyperdimensionbliss 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      CGI is a case of treating a nail and hammer like the perfect omnitool even when a screw and drill would get the job done far better.

  • @GreenDinoRanger
    @GreenDinoRanger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +191

    It still blows my mind that people hated this movie when it first released. Very few movies that I've seen have managed to hold that tense atmosphere through an entire film. And the practical effects are top tier.

    • @TheGreenKnight500
      @TheGreenKnight500 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it was just one of those pieces of media that was made in the wrong time and place. Plus, critics are idiots and we didn't have the internet back then to allow more independent discussion.

    • @sylonogwailou
      @sylonogwailou 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Normie audiences are dumb and are actively detrimental to creativity.

    • @hariman7727
      @hariman7727 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

      It came out the same year as ET, so it got a bad rap because it wasn't a feel good "aliums are frens!" movie.
      So it basically suffered the same issue as Outlaw Star being accused of not being as good as Cowboy Bebop... bad timing in close proximity to another beloved classic.

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      Most professional "movie critics" of the period hated horror movies. Especially gory ones. Some would go on agitated rants about them like clockwork.
      The only way people heard/read something good or bad about movies back then was via those reviews, or word of mouth from someone who took a blind leap. The latter was related to marketing via TV commercials so if a film didn't get much marketing it didn't get as much notice. I suspect it was a combination of these things which meant some of the old greats just didn't get much attention from audiences when first released.

    • @GreenDinoRanger
      @GreenDinoRanger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@NefariousKoel True. Honestly, the more I see of Ebert and Siskel's "reviews," the more I question why people valued their opinion. They were idiots.

  • @JackieThePsycho
    @JackieThePsycho 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

    I consider this to be better than Halloween with its storytelling, characters and suspense. A true horror John Carpenter masterpiece

    • @asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725
      @asdfghjkllkjhgfdsa8725 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I think its better than alien to.

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      It's a masterpiece period that trumps literally any horror film made since its inception.

  • @mrbigglezworth42
    @mrbigglezworth42 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    I heard the prequel movie had loads of real, practical effects and puppet work as a kind of respectful nod to the John Carpenter version. The studio intervened and a ton of film was cut because they were scared modern audiences wouldn't like the puppetry and practical effects work, so whole swathes of the movie had to be reshot with CGI.
    A shame, I wonder what that movie would've been like had the the suits not intervened.

    • @mlgesus8362
      @mlgesus8362 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      He says that in the video

    • @Godyeater
      @Godyeater 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I feel like the CGI was a good option for scenes that are mainly running sequences for the Thing. I just don’t think I could take someone in a suit seriously.

    • @ManiacMayhem7256
      @ManiacMayhem7256 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@mlgesus8362
      Commenters are bots, I swear

  • @goukeban6197
    @goukeban6197 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

    21:29 I like this interpretation the best too. It really hammers on the point that, regardless of their victory against the alien, these two men are still doomed, as help is extremelly unlikely to come and they'll probably both freeze to death unable to trust each other.

  • @lukebarroso449
    @lukebarroso449 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Watched this for the first time with all my siblings a few months back. One of the best horror movies I had ever seen. Loved the story, the ambiguity, and the practical effects. Truly a masterpiece.

  • @Henskelion
    @Henskelion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

    Wondering if the test audiences and producers who were saying "there's too much backstory, the effects look like they're from the 1980's" to the original iteration of the prequel movie were the same species of people who demanded Event Horizon cut all those (now lost) scenes that were cut from the movie for being "too gory".
    Too gory. In a horror movie.

    • @morbius_of_krell
      @morbius_of_krell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Event Horizon isn't that great either way.

    • @ManiacMayhem7256
      @ManiacMayhem7256 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@morbius_of_krell
      It's okay. Not good but not bad either. Just okay

  • @marshalmarshall2109
    @marshalmarshall2109 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    unfiltered kino, absolutely loved it. it will stay on my shelf till the heat death of the universe.

    • @Senator-Wary
      @Senator-Wary 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Kiss the DVD case goodnight

    • @marshalmarshall2109
      @marshalmarshall2109 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      i'm gonna kiss you goodnight, nerd @@Senator-Wary

    • @moistmaidenlover5565
      @moistmaidenlover5565 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gae

    • @hariman7727
      @hariman7727 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      >.> I am still unfamiliar with the term "Kino"... unless it has something to do with "Kino's Journey".

    • @Senator-Wary
      @Senator-Wary 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @hariman7727 kino is modern zoomer speak for good I guess

  • @chrissmith9167
    @chrissmith9167 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +68

    "It looks too much like an 80's movie"
    I...I just can't. Who the fuck are they getting to be the testers? Do they just grab people with no taste and so they can tell producers "Fuck this shit up fam".

  • @Snakedude4life
    @Snakedude4life 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +104

    Shout out to the thing video game on the PlayStation 2.
    A very flawed game, but the idea of having squad members possibly being infected, is a very interesting idea in survival horror.
    🎩
    🐍 no step on Snek!🇺🇸🇭🇰

    • @frug5629
      @frug5629 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Based on the scraps of interview material I could find, it was supposed to have a random infection chance mechanic amongst the NPCs. Meaning no same person would get infected on every playthrough. But unfortunately, amongst other interesting concepts the devs wanted to try, it got butchered due to the low budget. A shame too. The thing would've absolutely worked as a horror game.

    • @JR-zp3nw
      @JR-zp3nw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@frug5629 It didn't matter in the end anyway because whoever lived until the end of a level got infected anyway.

    • @tailfin6595
      @tailfin6595 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      The game has a lot of issues but they did absolutely nail the atmosphere

    • @chemergency
      @chemergency 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Spoony's review of it was a lot of fun. The PC version also plays really nice with a modern fanpatch.

    • @hyperdimensionbliss
      @hyperdimensionbliss 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh hey, fancy seeing you here. A welcome surprise.

  • @lucaspapadopoulos3063
    @lucaspapadopoulos3063 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    The whole studio interference and screen testing thing with the 2011 Thing will never not piss me off. It enrages me when you see a group with passion behind the scenes get shafted by the studio. It had a lot of potential.

    • @Mr_HammerExe
      @Mr_HammerExe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      If you think that’s disappointing, there was a planned TV-miniseries sequel to the original movie that was going to air on Sci-Fi Channel in 2005 called ‘Return of The Thing’, but it was sadly never made.

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The writing was just bad man. Studio interference made a mediocre, by the numbers horror film more bad. Good Effects wouldn't have saved it.

  • @craftysmithkeith3653
    @craftysmithkeith3653 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    carpenter bringing Dead Space to live action would be pretty frickin' rad to say the least

  • @AdjutantReflex0
    @AdjutantReflex0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    At 13:50 you can also see that the Chess Wizard cheats to win, much like how the Thing "cheats" by absorbing people and stowing division amongst the uninfected
    Its such great foreshadowing this movie is awesome my brother's favorite (definitely my favorite horror movie next to Jacob's Ladder)

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It doesn't cheat. It's just bad continuity. But the chess game reflects what happens. Not just what Macready does, but the placement of all the pieces.

  • @bigsauce1116
    @bigsauce1116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    this is a movie you can speculate endlessly about because there's so many unanswered questions. So ominous and eerie. Complete movie magic.

  • @TotallyBossDetective
    @TotallyBossDetective 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    That dog scene, as well as the mouth jaw scene lives rent free in my head to this day. Fucking loved this one a lot. Probably influenced my love of body horror and weird parasitical aliens too.

    • @manisahota6437
      @manisahota6437 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      why would it pay rent in your head?

    • @roseprickett8303
      @roseprickett8303 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Thing and the manga Parasyte found me around the same time I was dipping my toe into the horror genre and now I'm in the same camp with you. The dog scene is my favorite in the movie, I think.

  • @landonmathews6111
    @landonmathews6111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I’d say this is absolutely Carpenter’s best, and as much as I love Halloween, I don’t think you can deny that he perfected his craft in pretty much every aspect from that movie to The Thing

  • @samzilla567
    @samzilla567 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    This movie has infinite reward value because regardless of how many times you watch it, you will never be able to pin point when certain characters get infected. You could make an argument that Blair got infected early on or he got infected while he alone and locked in the shed. He might have destroyed the equipment to avoid any other infected crew members to contact the outside world or he could be infected and wants to avoid them trying to get help. There's no clear answer and I love that.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really think Blair was infected after he was isolated. The Thing wants to get into society as much as possible. You will never find it then.

  • @asinyne
    @asinyne 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    There’s a few assumptions made here about who’s infected and when. Blair destroying the helicopter doesn’t mean he was infected then - he could’ve still been himself then and was only infected afterwards (when he was locked up?). Then the Blair-Thing knew the helicopter and snow cat were disabled by Blair, but that it could still use pieces to make its own thing. We also don’t know who was infected by the dog: could’ve been Palmer or Norris.

    • @GreenDinoRanger
      @GreenDinoRanger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Zack Cherry has done a decent breakdown of who killed who in The Thing.

    • @TheAsylumCat
      @TheAsylumCat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don't remember where I heard this, but I was told that there's intentional plot holes to keep people guessing who got infected when.

    • @mmilley
      @mmilley 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The "Blair going nuts" scene was shortly after the computer sim scene predicting the end of the world, so I always felt he was still human at that point. Recently, however, I noticed that he touches the corpse of the dog-thing with his pencil eraser and then touches his lips with it, so who knows? I could be either he was infected at the autopsy of the dog-thing or some piece of the dog-thing escaped being burned and infected him when he was sedated and locked in the hut.

    • @GreenDinoRanger
      @GreenDinoRanger 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @mmilley Blair would have still been human when he killed the dogs and smashed the chopper. The thing would have no reason to deprive itself of transportation it coulduse to make contact with a greater number of hosts.

    • @friskyboi8819
      @friskyboi8819 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      No yeah. If Blair really was infected when he was destroying the helicopter and everything, why would he have presumably tried to off himself when he was in isolation?
      It would make no sense for the creature to have tied a noose to kill itself because obviously its primary goal is self preservation judging by alien Blair's later actions and the noose makes Blair look extremely suspicious if anyone decides to check in on him for whatever reason.
      Plus, it makes way more sense if Blair was human up until some time while he was isolated as he found out that this alien has a very high chance of killing everyone leading to him trying to keep the alien contained in the base by destroying all possible escapes. So, when he is put into isolation and truly believes that everyone is doomed, he ties a noose and tries to die instead of letting himself possibly be assimilated and aid the alien. I am guessing his attempt was interrupted by one of the aliens coming in and assimilating him and just leaving the noose up because the thing didn't understand what a noose was or the intentions behind it.
      It is all really pure speculation and I could be missing out on a really obvious explanation for why an assimilated Blair would make a noose but, to me, the noose makes it pretty obvious that Blair was not assimilated until some time into his isolation.

  • @venomouslizards
    @venomouslizards 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    One of the greatest movies ever made. The critics did not understand it and I’m glad it is now getting the love that it deserved.

  • @AbrasiousProductions
    @AbrasiousProductions หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think you can really tell it's cautious and frustrated when Blair-thing looks both ways when assimilating Gary, it's definitely scared of being found out.

  • @TheAutistWhisperer
    @TheAutistWhisperer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    My favourite horror film of all time.

    • @melgibsonafter5beers329
      @melgibsonafter5beers329 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Rest in Peace Wilford Brimley.
      Press D for Diabeetus 😔

  • @1Sir-McKnight
    @1Sir-McKnight 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Strong contender for the greatest horror movie monster or maybe even outright horror movie antagonist of all time. And what do we call it, just, The Thing. It's perfect.

  • @sukamadik5983
    @sukamadik5983 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I can't wait to get a remake/reboot/sequel with an all female cast that doesn't live up to this movie like everything else I love has gotten.

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Don’t look up ‘the thing 2024 trailer’
      ._.

    • @sukamadik5983
      @sukamadik5983 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@silent_stalker3687 ༼⁠;⁠´⁠༎ຶ⁠ ⁠۝ ⁠༎ຶ⁠༽Oh God Please NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sukamadik5983 leslie jones replaced Nauls
      It’s worse than I could’ve imagined

  • @Snoozelightable
    @Snoozelightable 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Kurt Russel’s hair in this movie is so good. It almost takes you out of his “gruff” character. It’s so funny how good his hair is.

  • @johnnumber1
    @johnnumber1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    One of the best horror movies and use of practical effects ever in a movie.

  • @unavailable8282
    @unavailable8282 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    "The Thing" has to be one of the very best horror movies ever made, especially with the pracrical effects. The ambiance and how hopeless the situation truly is.

  • @justinamerican8200
    @justinamerican8200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I've always thought the first shadow that gets infected by the dog-thing was Norris. I also don't think Blair was infected until AFTER they locked him up. I think he was perfectly sane when he sabotaged the vehicles; I think he was trying to ensure that they all died. His 'ranting' when he's busting up the communication equipment all makes perfect sense in hindsight: "At least ONE of you knows what's going on! You think it was trying to copy a dog? It wants to be uuuuuuuuus!"

    • @CharlemagneGuy127
      @CharlemagneGuy127 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Makes a lot of sense. Prevent the Thing from escaping in a vehicle or radioing for help to bring in more unsuspecting victims, at the cost of stranding themselves.

  • @tiberiopompeyo1627
    @tiberiopompeyo1627 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Regarding the original ending of the 2011 prequel, the idea of the Thing's spaceship not being actually its own comes from the original short story "Who Goes there?", where, upon finding out that the alien is a shapeshifter, the scientists realize that it had probably imitated the ship's crew as well. Personally, I think that a potential sequel to the 1982 original should take inspiration from The Departed (or more exactly from Infernal Affairs, which was remade as The Departed). We should follow the humans as they try to figure out who is an imitation, and also follow the imitations as they try not to give themselves away and take over the humans. Then you could explore some ideas that fans have droped over the years, like the Thing not wanting to assimilate all living creatures on Earth because it needs to feed on them, or the Soviets leaning about the Thing and trying to get a sample to weaponize it. You could even explore whether an imitation retains the thoughts and memories of all the creatures it has assimilated in the past, or if an imitation considers itself the new original because the true original doesn't exists anymore. There are so many things you can do, and yet what we got was just another lame prequel/remake.

  • @andymares3594
    @andymares3594 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    The thing in my opinion is one of the greatest films of all time.

    • @Dravianpn02
      @Dravianpn02 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not an opinion, but a fact.

  • @mattthornhill554
    @mattthornhill554 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is literally one of the best movies in my opinion. Period. The first movie I bought with my own money was The Thing. I’m beyond elated that you’ve covered this film. Thank you brother.

  • @silent_stalker3687
    @silent_stalker3687 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Also the mad lady flying the helicopter actually offered to really crash the helicopter
    Which means the guy Lars was supposed to die in the crash and then shaken fork the crash die to the grenade he sought to use on the doggo.
    And the fact ‘oh hey how are we gonna get a smoke trail for the shot’
    To wish… ‘you don’t want to know’ or someone saying it would make them mad.
    Yup they set up tires and set them on fire for the smoke trail shot.
    Also in the book Alan continues to rely a lot on the script and we get some really good details

  • @onegoldengraham
    @onegoldengraham 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Yes finally someone who agrees that they are both human in the end. It's the most appropriate ending considering a major theme of the movie is paranoia. Having one "actually" be infected feels too standard.

    • @viewtifuljoe4412
      @viewtifuljoe4412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I saw one theory that the chess game mirrors the ending, but yeah I like that idea too. The only real question is what was in that bottle.

  • @igorlukyan206
    @igorlukyan206 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The absolute best horror movie that I’ve ever seen, mainly because of the smart characters being played and their brilliant acting. I remember seeing it when I was 14 years old not knowing anything about the film and just being consumed by the whole thing pun intended

  • @abrahamedelstein4806
    @abrahamedelstein4806 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    26:00 A prequel could have had potential, if it it had been written, directed and acted by Scandinavians. How the prequel spoils itself is that it reveals the monster too early when there is no reason to do that, there has been no instigating situation for everyone to be on edge, so it could have started out very slow, with the Norwegians being unaware that the creature that thawed from the ice is a shapeshifter, so when they are out hunting for it, at first they might just think it's run off into the wilderness and frozen again and it wouldn't be until much later that some of the men start to realise what's going on.

  • @MrJhwan
    @MrJhwan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    You’ve played fear and hunger haven’t you. I recognize that intro music. It’s a very special game. It’s the only game/story I’ve experienced that has matched some of the fascinating cosmic horror aspects of berserks world building. Granted it took direct inspiration from it, see le’garde aka griffith, except worse things happen to him.

  • @Laxhoop
    @Laxhoop 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think Carpenter has stated that the spaceship belonged to an advanced alien species that the thing stowed away on, and upon being attacked by the thing, Earth was where their ship just happened to crash. I also heard that he said that the things iconic scream was it trying to communicate in all of the thousands of languages it had learned, at once.
    Which means that there could be untold numbers of things out there, currently snuffing out entire advanced civilizations, just waiting for a chance to stumble across our tiny blue marble again.
    And I think these simple lore statements by Carpenter actually help to amplify the fear factor of the thing. Because even if they did succeed in killing it in this film… It’s still out there, somewhere.

  • @jaynefeeney
    @jaynefeeney 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The silhouette was Dick Warlock. I met him at a con this last summer and we had a good talk about it. He doubled for Kurt Russell since his Disney days and was there for that reason.

  • @davidgreen3001
    @davidgreen3001 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Before I watch, this is one of the top 10 movies out there. It's a good example for what makes a perfect movie.

  • @TheLordTrashcan
    @TheLordTrashcan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    i wanted them to do a dead space movie so bad

  • @thatoneplace4189
    @thatoneplace4189 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A new The Thing game made by a competent development studio would be so sick.

  • @bookems07
    @bookems07 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Didnt expect to hear bob odenkirk talking about the thing movies

    • @viewtifuljoe4412
      @viewtifuljoe4412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me neither. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one ^_^

  • @TheHalogen131
    @TheHalogen131 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Before I even watch the video, I'd like to share my own interpretation of the ending. We know The Thing is protective over its every cell. Wether Childs's bottle contains alcohol, or kerosine, is irrelevant, they are both poisons that destroy cells. It wouldn't drink it, or at least would have reacted very violently. I think both Childs and MacReady are humans and the day was indeed saved. Or maybe I'm just a sucker for good endings.

  • @darwinaguilero3175
    @darwinaguilero3175 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I like how this and the first Predator are movies where the characters are actually pretty intelligent and capable but just feel astronomical odds. My favorite side character in this movie is probably Windows, since he was one of the first to have to deal with everything first hand, and it made him jumpier and more paranoid as the movie went on. From seeing Bennings get assimilated, to getting attacked and beat by Blair, it makes sense he immediately tries to go for guns and trust how brazen MacCready got. Great movie, and a great review as always. Cheers.

    • @murderman8578
      @murderman8578 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like the 2nd predator due to the setting and the Ending where the MC got buster base as a reward from 1776
      Makes it interesting since the recent predator movie takes place in more tribal times

  • @theduxabides9274
    @theduxabides9274 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    31:20 This actually sounds like a very interesting concept, I can see why corporate would sabotage it!

  • @cuthalion4281
    @cuthalion4281 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A few years ago, I was in a thrift store looking for audio electronics, and I stumbled across a Laserdisc player for less than $10, along with a few Laserdiscs for $1 each. I only recognized one of the discs, and despite not being much of a horror movie fan I picked it up with the player and brought it home -- it was John Carpenter's The Thing. I watched it and loved it. It's a brilliant film, even in letterboxed 480i. Honestly, I don't care that much about resolution. Sometimes low res can hide flaws in a film's special effects and make an experience more immersive (not that there are any real flaws in The Thing's effects -- they're some of the best practical effects I've ever seen). I also think that having such a . . . particular first experience with the film only enhanced the atmosphere.

  • @spaghettiman600
    @spaghettiman600 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I played the game, I’m old AF LOL. The pilot who rescues the team at the end of the game is Mac. And early in the game, the body of a frozen Childs is in the little burnt hut, frozen dead and sitting upright. But, no Mac, and he is alive and well at the end of the game. So apparently, Mac is a Thing in the game. And now he finally has a ticket to civilization. I have heard it said that the game is canon.

  • @Reventian
    @Reventian 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing series of videos, I've rewatched all the movies after finishing your vids

  • @juanwick4848
    @juanwick4848 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I stopped watching Greylock to watch this video about something actually scary. ABSOLUTELY worth it. Great job, Loli, love the video. This vid actually makes me want to go rewatch the film because it’s been a long time since I first saw it.
    P.S.; Happy belated birthday

  • @fnot804
    @fnot804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Easily the best Lovecraft movie, and one of the best movies ever made. Funny how At the mountains of Madness heavily inspired both Alien and The Thing. It really makes you wonder what was the creature goals and what would happen afterwards, would life on Earth survive at all. Personally I assumed that the creature could not care less about humans, and just wanted to go away, I though it was building a spaceship in the basement. The Thing was basically a virus, if it was not frozen in the middle of nowhere, it would transform all life on Earth, there is no way to fight it, so if any part of it gets away, the question would be "how long the apocalypse would last", really classic Lovecraftian story. For all we know, it would spread around the world, build a spaceship and leave, similar to the Roadside picnic aka Stalker.
    It really shows how believable they made it. You dont really need suspension of disbelief if whole thing is realistic. Uncovering some ancient virus, capable of wiping of humanity is completely possible, so if you watch it with impressionable people, you might say something about current finding in the Antarctica, to imply that the whole thing was basically a documentary.
    PS. In regards to actors, the dog was the most amazing dog actor I ever saw. I didnt think it was possible to make a dog act this creepy.

  • @zachariahjonahmaldonado5897
    @zachariahjonahmaldonado5897 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My favourite thing about The Thing is how Final Fantash 7 was clearly inspired and J-E-N-O-V-A is just a fantasy version of the alien. I wish remakes and spin offs would go more into her instead of endlessly expanding on Sephiroth like we give.

  • @att7364
    @att7364 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    sad part in the 2011 prequel, is they genuinly had a lot of legendary Norwegian and dannish actors: Stig Hoff and Jan Gunnar being in Kraftidioten and Lilyhammer, Kristofer Hivju being known in Hollywood and that big guy from GOT. Jørgen Langhelle in a cult classic: UNO

  • @dr.calibrations7984
    @dr.calibrations7984 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My favorite "The Thing" game is Prototype
    No seriously, Alex Mercer is basically The Thing, especially after the lategame reveal that you're not actually playing as Alex Mercer, but youre playing as The Blackwatch virus and Mercer was just the first being you assimilated as, and taking his consciousness made you believe that you were Mercer. You can assimilate people and take their memories and their appearance and even accuse someone else of being the shapeshifter. Those games were good and i wish we got another one.

  • @shaynefowley5689
    @shaynefowley5689 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    15:15 thinking? Or knowing that MacReady is infected.
    22:59 glad you introduced the sequel game. 🤔 The Thing can survive freezing temperatures unlike Childs, who was frozen dead. That leaves one other survivor. Given that Childs dies from the cold, the other guy is flying a helicopter out of the camp alive. (The Thing music plays in the background).
    … humanity loses.

  • @irish-italianintrovert.8600
    @irish-italianintrovert.8600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Thing is one of my favorite movies ever since I first watched it in HS film class. Plus it’s great for scarring your younger siblings with.

  • @andreaven2287
    @andreaven2287 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Big Bang Theory : I made scientifics and geeks cool !
    The Thing : Shut up and get me a whisky kid...

  • @jonathanfeldheim6554
    @jonathanfeldheim6554 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Been watching this movie for 30+ years but your video still shed new light on the whole "I'm a pretty light sleeper, Childs!" line; you make a great point about the Thing shying away from leadership positions; previously I thought Norris' rejection of the idea was another way to sow dissent and distrust amongst the rest a-la Palmer's refusal to go with Windows--another great point you make, that he wasn't just trying to sow more dissent and distrust, he was trying to get Childs alone. Thank you SIR

  • @JUST_SOLE81
    @JUST_SOLE81 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just clicked on your newest video to tell you how much I apreciate your berserk material. I 100% agree with everything you say. Gonna start keeping up with all your content.

  • @Jef_Jingles
    @Jef_Jingles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Carpenter's opus magnum

  • @MAJR172
    @MAJR172 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd love to hear you recap The Return of The Thing scrip.
    It's absolutely criminal it's never been properly released.

  • @igodreamer7096
    @igodreamer7096 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Now I want to see a live action Dead Space movie, directed by John Carpenter! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

    • @Gnardstingler
      @Gnardstingler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You and me both.

  • @theravenking5930
    @theravenking5930 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The concept of the half goat man thing appeared in the sequel comic books when they’re in South America

  • @katherineB912
    @katherineB912 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If John Carpenter directs a Dead Space movie, I'll die!
    Dead Space is one of my favorite games.

  • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
    @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Saul as a recurring character to correct yourself is one of my favorite TH-cam channel bits. Ngl.

  • @porkflaps4717
    @porkflaps4717 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The Thing is TOP everything! What a great film. Writing, Direction, execution, acting, special effects/creature designs, you name it. The only thing that it lacked was box office, which isn't it's fault.

  • @daLiraX
    @daLiraX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Shame that critics rated it that low back then... but this also somehow seems to be typical for cult movies. They just get the appreciation they deserve much later, sometimes too late.

    • @viewtifuljoe4412
      @viewtifuljoe4412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Critics are hacks. I am no movie buff, but damn do they have shite takes.

  • @ncspite8635
    @ncspite8635 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Thing is my favourite movie of all time, and I think part of why ties into what I think is the only real flaw with the movie: the opening. The ship flying by and heading down to Earth.
    The first time I ever saw the movie was just flipping through channels and stopping when I saw a dude shooting at a dog from a helicopter. It was so absurd and unexpected that I stopped to see what the hell was going on, and ended up watching the entire movie. And that feeling of not knowing what was going on, being in the exact same situation as the characters, really added a lot to my experience. That opening just kinda gives the whole mystery away. You know that, whatever is going on, it has something to do with space aliens. And I mean sure, it's revealed fairly early on but still, that initial lack of certainty was just perfect.

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never knew that the movie didn't start with the dog and helicopter scene. I agree that that's way better.

  • @yeahnahman4217
    @yeahnahman4217 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fond memories of my grand mother “educating me on music and movies” with the original The War Of The Worlds, The Thing, Kiss and Queen
    Great movie, I literally watch this channel just for self affirmation at this point hahaha

  • @J-joe11
    @J-joe11 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    >Movie has all male cast
    >One of the only movies with smart characters
    What did they mean by this?

  • @DrJurdenPeterbergsteinlerwitz
    @DrJurdenPeterbergsteinlerwitz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since you mentioned it in your video: You'll be surprised how entertaining it is to watch/listen to a 'what happened' video to a film you have already watched. It's like talking about a movie without speaking.

  • @CloakofAuron
    @CloakofAuron 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A hypothetical scenario that I would FREAKING LOVE re: Carpenter and Dead Space is for him to successfully get a film adaptation going, make it basically a love letter/companion piece to The Thing in aesthetics, character portrayals, etc., and for the final product to be the most profitable and critically successful film he's ever done.
    ...and then that's his last film. Whether due to passing on, or because he wants to end his directorial career on that, that's it. Close the Loop, we're fucking done here. Given how all the acclaim after the fact doesn't resolve the decades of issues where he made no money and got shat on in-the-moment when his films came out, Carpenter has the saltiest attitude about his success. He's like a curmudgeonly uncle who's gone through so many failures and BS, but he ends up being right at the end of the day. "What good does being right at the end of it all do me?! It doesn't make me the money I need or the praise I deserve when it matters." I love that exchange he had with del Toro about The Thing, so him finally getting that catharsis and then giving a final middle finger to everyone by dying after resounding success for a Dead Space film adaptation would be incredible; it fits John's personality and life perfectly.
    Maybe that's just me, though. I like a mix of bitter contempt with a somewhat happy-yet-bittersweet ending. Feels pretty Everyman. What do you think, Loli?

  • @deadwar2012
    @deadwar2012 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact about the chess robot. When Macready makes his final move on the board with his king and the computer with a rook, he’s not even in check to claim checkmate, the computer forces the loss for no reason hence why he calls the computer a “Cheating bitch.” Little bit of movie/chess trivia.

  • @chemergency
    @chemergency 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Thing really stands-out from other horror films given its cast's intelligence and masculinity.

  • @Jkeb19
    @Jkeb19 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I saw the thing for the first time last year in the cinema as part of its 40th anniversary, and it was one of the best cinema experiences I've had. It was the 4k remaster of the film so it looked amazing on the big screen as well.

    • @viewtifuljoe4412
      @viewtifuljoe4412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Now that is very cool. I missed out on the 40th anniversary (got to see the anniversary of Dawn of the Dead last month) but at a local Harkin theaters they played The Thing a couple of times.

  • @r3dgh0st38
    @r3dgh0st38 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My biggest problem with the prequel was the acting. Not that it was "bad". Even though that is debatable. It's the characters in I movie taking place in 1982 talk, move, and act like early 2010s.

  • @filipvadas7602
    @filipvadas7602 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my opinion, the best part of the movie, aside from the amazing practical effects and acting obviously, is the fact that we genuinely *don't* have a clear timeline of infection for most of the movie. This combined with certain details being actively kept vague or outright never being disclosed really heightens the sense of paranoia, as even all these years later we still can only guess on when and where someone was infected and what the characters were doing offscreen.

  • @gmork1090
    @gmork1090 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I liked the original story version. It hated the people with a passion because when they thawed it out they were jabbing and hitting it with sharp objects. Then they went ahead and accidentally destroyed its ship. It also was a bit psychic and could read minds to an extent, giving off hateful vibes when it was discovered.

  • @ianthorpe1925
    @ianthorpe1925 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @TheAlmightyLoli Have you ever seen a movie called "The Void"? If not, I'm pretty sure you would like it. It has practical effects that are comparable to The Thing. I know that is a bold statement, but it is definitely worth a watch.

  • @seen921
    @seen921 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm glad this is a "one and done" movie. It's so compact and tightly written. But the lack of breath (seen) from Childs is that great obscure ending that is one of its main talking points

  • @hezekiahthomas837
    @hezekiahthomas837 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Genuinely one of the best movies I have ever watched . I can rewatch damn near any horror movie and no longer be scared but this one is something else

  • @AjaxJP
    @AjaxJP 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I remember right, there's a movie called Harbinger Down that used some of the leftover creature parts from The Thing. Not really a great movie but neat practical effects and concepts.

  • @andreatreese8347
    @andreatreese8347 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My parents grew up with the original fifties adaptation "The Thing from Another World", and when they heard there was a remake, they eagerly went to see it in theaters....and were extremely horrified by what they saw. So, growing up, all I ever heard was that this movie was Bad. The edited version came on the Sci-Fi channel (yes, it wasn't always the syphilis channel) and I decided I was gonna watch it. After all, I was a very sheltered fourteen-year-old girl, I can take it.
    The moment the dog's face peeled like a banana, I backed the f*ck out. Took me years before I finally watched it again and realized that this was an absolutely BRILLIANT film, and is one of the only ones that fooled my husband. He is uncanny about how fast he figures out twists and mysteries, but this one fooled him. When he told me his guess during the blood scene, I had to remain calm because I was so thrilled that he guessed WRONG about who it was.
    EDIT: I forgot to mention that my favorite bit of trivia still remains that Stan Winston refused to put his name in the credits because he wanted Bottin to get all the credit.

  • @MacNille
    @MacNille 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If you understand Norwegian, you will get why the norwegians are shooting a the dog/alien right away.
    They spell it out.

  • @cruddddddddddddddd
    @cruddddddddddddddd 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of my favorite films. The whole idea of some grotesque creature assimilating the people around you is truly terrifying. It takes Invasion of the Body Snatchers to another level, made worse by the fact everyone is trapped in a small building with nowhere to go.

  • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
    @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    “You all need to sit down and watch this movie”
    I’ve done it a hundred times, what’s once more?

  • @Blondguyification
    @Blondguyification 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    To all the fans of the thing, you can watch an indie movie harbinger down. It's made by the special effects crew who wanted to make the prequel thing. It's not great, story wise, but it is made with love.

  • @kerbal666
    @kerbal666 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Funny you mention The Hateful Eight because when watching it with a friend he suddenly blurted out "This is just The Thing but with cowboys!" which really took me out of the movie!

  • @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto
    @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good video. I'll say I'm a big fan of John Carpenter's Prince Of Darkness

  • @ZaleskasConundrum
    @ZaleskasConundrum 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YAY FINALLY!
    ALSO!
    Friend Almighty you are a wonderful creator who deserves so much more recognition than you get, I still remember every second of going through the berserk saga as it came out during the toughest time in my life so far, and it helped me through everything. Your style of review and analysis mixed with your sarcasm makes some of the best vid os on this site

  • @shanelewis7052
    @shanelewis7052 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time, I'd rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS FUCKING COUCH!

  • @theacesofrazgriz7674
    @theacesofrazgriz7674 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    14:40 he would be Creole not Cajun, Cajuns are white people of French descent and Creoles are black people of French descent

  • @SwaggyG_2102
    @SwaggyG_2102 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Among Us if it was set during the early-80s.

  • @silent_stalker3687
    @silent_stalker3687 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Honestly the ‘every cell’ thing seems to just be a simplified
    In the original script there was a process for it to go: make a organ like spear, and that makes another thing from new bodies.
    How disturbing would it be to have spikes and shit form in the mass of dogs and then finding out later ‘every spike would have become a dog’
    And the image of a dozen bodies thrashing in pain and agony while this thing has spears running through them while eating them
    It would’ve been fantastic and made the deaths seem more gruesome

    • @tadpolegaming4510
      @tadpolegaming4510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The film Splinter is just like this, I bet you'd enjoy it