I've got the Addiesdive with a black Nato strap. Been in the sea with it, wear it daily. Great lume, keeps time perfectly. Just under 40 Euros. Can't go wrong with it.
Best overall watch here is the Cronos (but the newer version). Glide lock clasp, excellent finishing, doesn’t have the goofy San Martin logo and all that for less.
I recently picked up a Cronos , but it is not much if any nicer than the $99 watchdives homage, at some point the cronos was selling for $225+ but I was able to get mine for $169 for the full lume bezel version ,but I think the glide lock is it's only tangible advantage,though the clasp itself leaves much to be desired. The clasp on the watchdives homage is very similar to the san martin clasp
I'd say Cronos followed closely by the San Martin. The only reason Cronos gets the lead, Is because of the Pt5000 movement and clasp. However the new San martin sno19 would be the winner hands down if it was in the line up 👍
Best comparison on these homages. Interested how the olevs and steel dives tank up. Yet to finish the video but from what I have seen Chronos and San Martin are at the top.
@@DIOR.x Nope. Been a month and it keeps time very nicely. I wear it once every 2 days, never had to rewind it. It has NH35 seiko automatic movement so it's self-winding. Overall 9/10
Surprised that you didn't discuss the movements other than the obvious quartz one. I have the PD Batman and Aquaracer 1668 and both are amazing for the $.
I'm surprised that your didn't get a Steeldive SD1953 as part of the comparison. I recently bought one for £70 (incl.Tax) based upon various reviews (including some comparisons) and I have to say I'm literally blown away by what you get for the money. Fantastic build quality (at least on mine..) and great lume. The revised milled clasp is a huge improvement and even the strap is better than expected
AddiesDive aka SteelDive. All things considered, I thnk that the Pagani is the best of them. It offers great quality but incredible value as well compared to the others. It still maintains the ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal that make it elite. The blue on the Cronus is also really dull and uninteresing.
I really like the chronos and san martin. My experience watch wise are Mido, tisssot gentleman and v8, Longines and orient. Are the cronos and san martin close in overall quality?
The San Martin is, one of the best constructed watches I've ever owned if you can look past the sharp case and bracelet. The Cronos is not as heavy duty but is still very good.
I agree with comment below, how were the movements completely ignored in a full comparison review....??? I just bought this one on sale with black on black dial and a black nato type band for $22.49 with tax and free shipping, didnt care about the metal bracelet so saved a couple bucks there - hard to beat that for raw no frills value.
I have a San Martin Rolex Submariner Homage and a Cronos Rolex Submariner Homage No date. My comparison ,my Pros for San Martin the case is nicer as case tapers ,the black on the San Martin dial is better. The Cronos no date bracelet is smoother no sharp edges ,Bezel feels nicer,but does have a bit of side play. If San Martin done a Rolex Submariner Homage no date apart from the sharp edges on the bracelet, it would be a better choice than the Cronos. I wanted a date Submariner Homage and a no date. I am still happy with both.
Hi Dave, does the Cronos have sharp edges to the lugs and the bracelet and case like the San Martin? I have the V3 San Martin and it’s built like a tank but the sharp edges are a real turn off
No the Cronos does NOT have sharp edges to any degree like the SM does. But the head of the watch (compared with the SN017V3) is not as comfortable. I would check out SN019 though, I think they may have reduced link thickness and improved the sharpness, but its very expensive compared to everything.
@@ATIWatchReviews hi Dave, thank you for the reply. I have considered the SN019 but the price and the lack of the glidelock now have kept me away, If Cronos fix their issue with the cyclops magnifier I will snag one of theirs. I feel like San Martin’s prices are getting out of hand now,
You forgot the most important part of a watch...... it's time keeping accuracy. I have the Pagani and it's certainly not perfect, but when you said the lume was better than the Addiesdive, i laughed. Pagani's lume is atrocious. I also have the Addiesdive and the lume is HUGELY BETTER than the Pagani. The Addiesdive is also SIGNIFICANTLY more accurate though the clasp is just horrible, whereas the Pagani strap and clasp is excellent (after a bit of grinding and smoothing down those sharp edges). I prefer good accuracy so these auto movements just don't cut it for me. I had to regulate my Pagani as it was gaining around +17s PER DAY (which is garbage), but now got it to around +5 seconds (which still isn't great).
I know all about the accuracy of these autos which are poor as I've also noted many many times. It's pretty obvious a quartz will be more accurate at cheap price points.
Also, being too stupid to regulate an automatic watch doesn’t make it a poor movement. It just proves the point that you’re stupid. Now I am talking to you.
Dan sepertinya anda sangat kesal dengan addiesdive yg sangat indah itu terlihat ketika anda mengambil pagani secara hati hati dan addiesdive anda mengambilnya secara kasar dan emosional😂😂😂
@@ATIWatchReviews thanks for the nudge. I just purchased the pagani. The main reason was because it was available on amazon prime with 2 day ship. San martin would require a little more patience of delivery with a 2-3 week ship.
Addies winner for money and kwalitas dan sepertinya anda membohongi diri anda sendiri bahwa ada homage yg lebih murah yg dapat mengalahkan 4 jam tangan yg lebih mahal itu ayolah saya merekomendasikan addiesdive kawan🎉🎉🎉
I've got the Addiesdive with a black Nato strap. Been in the sea with it, wear it daily. Great lume, keeps time perfectly. Just under 40 Euros. Can't go wrong with it.
There ya go!
Que vídeo bom. Parabéns pelo trabalho de qualidade e informação.
Já ganhou meu like do Brasil 🇧🇷
Best overall watch here is the Cronos (but the newer version). Glide lock clasp, excellent finishing, doesn’t have the goofy San Martin logo and all that for less.
I agree 100% the new one is a keeper, the accuracy on mine is great. Build quality great also.
Plus the newer clasp on the new San martin 👎🏿👎🏿👎🏿
I recently picked up a Cronos , but it is not much if any nicer than the $99 watchdives homage, at some point the cronos was selling for $225+ but I was able to get mine for $169 for the full lume bezel version ,but I think the glide lock is it's only tangible advantage,though the clasp itself leaves much to be desired. The clasp on the watchdives homage is very similar to the san martin clasp
But it’s like 4 times more expensive than for example, the pagani
I predict in the future, San Martin logo will be just as respected as rolex logo
I'd say Cronos followed closely by the San Martin. The only reason Cronos gets the lead, Is because of the Pt5000 movement and clasp. However the new San martin sno19 would be the winner hands down if it was in the line up 👍
Best comparison on these homages. Interested how the olevs and steel dives tank up. Yet to finish the video but from what I have seen Chronos and San Martin are at the top.
I'm kind of surprised. I've had a couple PD watches, gave them some away because I thought they were rubbish.
Great review and comparison pal - I went with the PD 1661 after watching this. Just got it in the mail yesterday, very pleased with it.
Have u faced any problem with the movement pal?
@@DIOR.x Nope. Been a month and it keeps time very nicely. I wear it once every 2 days, never had to rewind it. It has NH35 seiko automatic movement so it's self-winding. Overall 9/10
Finally! The Important Questions in Life!
Surprised that you didn't discuss the movements other than the obvious quartz one. I have the PD Batman and Aquaracer 1668 and both are amazing for the $.
I'm surprised that your didn't get a Steeldive SD1953 as part of the comparison. I recently bought one for £70 (incl.Tax) based upon various reviews (including some comparisons) and I have to say I'm literally blown away by what you get for the money. Fantastic build quality (at least on mine..) and great lume. The revised milled clasp is a huge improvement and even the strap is better than expected
AddiesDive aka SteelDive. All things considered, I thnk that the Pagani is the best of them. It offers great quality but incredible value as well compared to the others. It still maintains the ceramic bezel and sapphire crystal that make it elite. The blue on the Cronus is also really dull and uninteresing.
Where's the steeldives)? The best beater sub I've got ,can't go wrong for Hundred odd quid
Where would Hyakuichi 101 stand among your list? Thank you for sharing.
I really like the chronos and san martin. My experience watch wise are Mido, tisssot gentleman and v8, Longines and orient.
Are the cronos and san martin close in overall quality?
The San Martin is, one of the best constructed watches I've ever owned if you can look past the sharp case and bracelet. The Cronos is not as heavy duty but is still very good.
I agree with comment below, how were the movements completely ignored in a full comparison review....??? I just bought this one on sale with black on black dial and a black nato type band for $22.49 with tax and free shipping, didnt care about the metal bracelet so saved a couple bucks there - hard to beat that for raw no frills value.
Pagani Design does strike the best balance for price and quality.
Awesome review as always mate. Keep them coming.
Bought the Pagani design PD-1639 for 90 euro about a year ago. can't fault it in any way, thx for the video
Yep, an all round cracker!
I have a San Martin Rolex Submariner Homage and a Cronos Rolex Submariner Homage No date.
My comparison ,my Pros for San Martin the case is nicer as case tapers ,the black on the San Martin dial is better.
The Cronos no date bracelet is smoother no sharp edges ,Bezel feels nicer,but does have a bit of side play.
If San Martin done a Rolex Submariner Homage no date apart from the sharp edges on the bracelet, it would be a better choice than the Cronos. I wanted a date Submariner Homage and a no date.
I am still happy with both.
big issue is mechanic. I wish cronos would do (or pagani) a quartz watch. Its reliable, more accurate, no need to set the time always.
I agree. I'm one of the few watch reviewers who dislikes somewhat cheap auto movements due to inaccuracy
Belo vídeo.
Lekker! Mate! All the way from South Africa! We do appreciate a dive watch comparison. Rolex for the win
You left out the Invicta 9937OB Pro diver, with the Swiss Sellita-200 movement, and it's a hell of nice watch!
Hi Dave, does the Cronos have sharp edges to the lugs and the bracelet and case like the San Martin? I have the V3 San Martin and it’s built like a tank but the sharp edges are a real turn off
No the Cronos does NOT have sharp edges to any degree like the SM does. But the head of the watch (compared with the SN017V3) is not as comfortable. I would check out SN019 though, I think they may have reduced link thickness and improved the sharpness, but its very expensive compared to everything.
@@ATIWatchReviews hi Dave, thank you for the reply. I have considered the SN019 but the price and the lack of the glidelock now have kept me away, If Cronos fix their issue with the cyclops magnifier I will snag one of theirs. I feel like San Martin’s prices are getting out of hand now,
Nice review. Pity you couldn't take the newish Ironwatch into consideration. It will be delivered to my doorstep today...
I find the PT5000 in the new Cronus is superior to any of the homage watches I own, mine is super accurate.
Interesting to know.
Ser can you tell me best homage watch under 300 pounds , tell me tree version
PAGANI DESIGN PD-1661
ALI EXPRESS: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AfikRL
AMAZON: amzn.to/3T7ckOD
EBAY: ebay.us/9DAgNB
LIGE 6801
ALI EXPRESS: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AP3JVh
AMAZON: amzn.to/3QR8Ei0
EBAY: ebay.us/VLSRGx
CRONOS DIVER L6005
ALI EXPRESS: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_DE1OOrt
AMAZON: amzn.to/3T03emS
EBAY: ebay.us/nNG2Ft
SAN MARTIN SN017G-A (TWO TONE)
ALI EXPRESS: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AK8imp
AMAZON: amzn.to/3T4Xxny
EBAY: ebay.us/2VjfV8
SAN MARTIN SN017-G (V3)
ALI EXPRESS: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_ABOAGl
ADDIESDIVE MY-H3
ALI EXPRESS: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_9fKTq3
AMAZON: amzn.to/3QZeePJ
EBAY: ebay.us/kVB8Tl
Good comparison this mate
No.1 um...???ee yeah addiesdive 🎉🎉🎉🎉😂😂😂😂
I bought the addisdive version because its quartz. Not a fan of mechanical watches.
Me too!
You forgot the most important part of a watch...... it's time keeping accuracy.
I have the Pagani and it's certainly not perfect, but when you said the lume was better than the Addiesdive, i laughed. Pagani's lume is atrocious.
I also have the Addiesdive and the lume is HUGELY BETTER than the Pagani.
The Addiesdive is also SIGNIFICANTLY more accurate though the clasp is just horrible, whereas the Pagani strap and clasp is excellent (after a bit of grinding and smoothing down those sharp edges).
I prefer good accuracy so these auto movements just don't cut it for me. I had to regulate my Pagani as it was gaining around +17s PER DAY (which is garbage), but now got it to around +5 seconds (which still isn't great).
I know all about the accuracy of these autos which are poor as I've also noted many many times. It's pretty obvious a quartz will be more accurate at cheap price points.
NH35 and PT5000 are not poor movements. You’ve lost all if any credibility with that ignorant comment.
@@jrbj2000 Poor accuracy = poor movement.
What's hard to understand with that?
You're everything that's wrong with watch collectors - delusional.
Also, being too stupid to regulate an automatic watch doesn’t make it a poor movement. It just proves the point that you’re stupid.
Now I am talking to you.
Dan sepertinya anda sangat kesal dengan addiesdive yg sangat indah itu terlihat ketika anda mengambil pagani secara hati hati dan addiesdive anda mengambilnya secara kasar dan emosional😂😂😂
And we have a winner 🏆 in how to drag and scratch your watches !
Pathetic comment 😂
Why were you not showing the new cronos with the new logo??
Why doesn't anybody point out the terrible magnification on the Cronos? It really cheapens the overall look of the watch. I just can not overlook it.
The main weak point of Pagani is weak lume other wise Pagani watches are best bang for buck
Agreed
Get a steinhart Swiss quality at a bargain price
but theyre WAY more expensive than ali express ones
Your pagani is not the upgraded 2021 version.
Ye but I have about 3 of the upgraded ones. they are thicker slightly (12.6-8mm) so I dont like them as much but still very good
I didn't know Martin Murray was doing watch reviews 🤣 I do love a San Martin.
I'm not a scouser!!! haha
man i cant decide between pagani or the san martin hulk. pagani is so much cheaper lol
Both. But the pagani hulk is better value and comfier
@@ATIWatchReviews thanks for the nudge. I just purchased the pagani. The main reason was because it was available on amazon prime with 2 day ship. San martin would require a little more patience of delivery with a 2-3 week ship.
you don't know about watch design, metalwork, mechanical details.
Addies winner for money and kwalitas dan sepertinya anda membohongi diri anda sendiri bahwa ada homage yg lebih murah yg dapat mengalahkan 4 jam tangan yg lebih mahal itu ayolah saya merekomendasikan addiesdive kawan🎉🎉🎉
St Martin is excellent