This 90 yr old bought a new 206 in about 69-70.GREAT plane ! Had almost all Cessnas (no jets) and this one was one I enjoyed most. Miss flying but 700-800 grand ! Wow, world passed me by.
Neil - As a young 81, I have figured out that some of the inflated prices are caused by the 'need for speed', which is usually people with inflated egos... 😏
I'm gonna say this. Steve Kent is a sharp man. I would hope that someone of his caliber works at Textron Aviation - he builds confidence in the brand! After listening to him my perception of quality, performance and safety shot up.
For those of you complaining about costs, you need to consider what this plane can do. Look at the twin engine Beach Baron or the Piper Seneca. They boat cost way more but carry much less. The Baron with full fuel can barely carry 2 people and some light baggage. The 206 is a work horse with a maximum useful load of 1800 lbs. With full fuel it can still carry 4 ppl and bags. At 165 knots. Sure the twins go a bit faster but they can’t carry all your stuff and friends. If I had the money the 206 would be on a very short list for me.
Fun fact about the Windham Airport in Willimantic, Connecticut: It was originally owned by the Town of Windham, but was sold in the 1970s to the State of Connecticut for $1 in order to keep the airport running after the town ran into some financial difficulties and couldn’t afford to continue operating the airport.
It's a real big plane. I sat in one at a Cessna sales demo at an FBO I flew into a while back. If you're used to a 172 (as I am) the 206 feels huge. It's especially surreal because the proportions are all basically the same, so it's like someone took a 172 and just enlarged it by 2x.
This guy is obviously a salesman to the bone, but this _does_ seem like an impressively versatile and well thought out little airplane. Just how easily configurable they made it -- especially with the seats and doors -- and the fact that they took into consideration not only the _size_ of standard items like pallets and oil drums, but also the ease of loading/unloading them. This level of forethought in engineering shouldn't feel impressive to me (especially in a modern machine with a modern price tag), but it does. I've seen nothing in my last 5 Chevys or Fords that has led me to believe the engineers put even 10% of the consideration of user experience that the people who engineered this airplane have.
This was designed in the early 60's. Nothing has changed to the frame since then. Flew one in the early 80's. Loved it. 600hrs of bush charter flying in the outback was a privilege.
Any aircraft that cost that much, can not be considered a working man's airplane, and you'll never pay for that machine, by doing the mail run somewhere in southeast Alaska.
THANK YOU for this. OMG, this is exactly what I have been looking for. I can't even find this on the Textron site. Steve Kent, could you please do this for all of the Textron aircraft, and have them post it on the Textron site as well? I've been scouring the web looking for exactly this and was coming up empty. As a matter of fact, perhaps Textron should post a link to this video on their site. Thank You for this. I really appreciate it.
9:35 And I believe a 172 has 3 inches more wingspan than the 182. I can understand that cos the 182 has clipped wings for more speed, since it has way more power too.
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I'm glad I got the opportunity to get checked out in a 206 years ago and now I'm back flying the might powerful TS IO -520 300 . I love how the aircraft performance is from takeoff to climb cruise power during my flight and it would be great if Cessna would design more cowling luvers for CHT but overall I manage it by my cowl flaps and power settings below 400 degrees at times and especially during my descent to prevent shock cooling from 10,000 feet or below to pattern altitude and if anyone has a 2018 Turbo 206 that needs to be delivered or justified for flight operations to carry passengers or freight then let me know so I can utilize the aircraft for you or your company
I always wander how could anyone open that front cargo door in case of an emergency with those big flaps extended to the landing position in case of no flap retraction.
In 1956 a new car cost on average $2050. A new Cessna 172 in that same year cost about 4 times that at $8700. An average new car in 2018 cost less than $35,000 yet a new Cessna 172 now cost almost 10 times as much. Aircraft shouldn’t cost so much but they charge crazy prices because unless you buy an aircraft kit and build it yourself, they know u don’t have a choice but to pay it.
Lawsuits and liabilities of morons getting licenses are actually two of the major issues behind the absurd prices in aviation, lawyers got a picnic day with big corporations every time one these egomaniac with money get kill in an accident just because he thought that he was proficient enough to manage and flight a plane.
+ Repeat Offender The rich among us largely work very hard for what they have. The poor that don't eat well appreciate the value of the dollar. The drone they send for you will vaporize your popgun. And we have a wonderful country....Russian....sorry you don't.
William R McIntosh Unfortunatly that's just not true. The top one percent control 97 percent of the wealth and the average blue collar works gets paid 1,000 times less than a C-level exectuive .. so are executives doing 1,000 times the work of the front line guy, I think not!
Why dont you take a risk like Sam Walton did and put your ass on the line and build your own company from scratch instead of taking the easy way and collecting a check from "the man". Instead, you bust your ass and collect a check and bitch about those that have more.
how about improving your skills or starting your own company and taking some risks instead of collecting a check for a crap wage. So you think you should make 100,000/year driving a forklift?
+Lop Flyer That's a break-in power setting, not at all typical for normal operations. That guy Larry just made an asinine comment, and he should have known better.
Big fan of Cessna however it’s very sad that they used to be the airplane for the masses, not anymore. They’re basically giving the trainer segment to diamond because they no longer make the 152. It’s too bad.
+ Sam The C-150/152 series is still going strong because they were so well-made, and they're just too good to be through. There are far more C150s around than Diamonds. The Chinese now own Diamond. At least Textron sill makes an American airplane
William R McIntosh "At least Textron sill makes an American airplane" Aren't you forgetting that the ill-fated Cessna Skycatcher was to have been built in China?
Cessna missed a golden opportunity. They had a chance to corner the market on the small trainer market when they introduced the 162. But they tried to put in so many frills that they ended up pricing it out of competition. Had they made a basic, rough and tumble trainer with bare bones equipment for under $100,000 fly away, they would have made a fortune.
Biker Mike "...when [Cessna] introduced the 162...they tried to put in so many frills that they ended up pricing it out of competition." The problem with the 162 was performance. It was over-weight, and couldn't carry two normal-sized Americans.
I really miss flying the C-206. The last time I flew one was mid 1990s! She was heavy on the controls and had very basic cockpit (not the flying TV rooms you see today). I would love to fly one again. Operating the 206 is like having a fat girlfriend: she doesn't dress up that well, but she sure can carry a lot.
Peyton Trowbridge "So you are telling me that I'm going to buy a half million dollar airplane to carry pallets and barrels" Many people do, particularly in the ranching, oil, and construction trades.
Unless one of the lawn darts hanging out the door snags his reserve handle (or his throwaway gets snagged). Had a static line student deploy *INSIDE* the cabin once. The jumpmaster dived on it real quick. I like the C205 because it had the escape door up front with me. To get out of a 206 you needed to be at 4,500 and then you would get a 4 or 5 second canopy ride. That happened to a pilot at the same DZ that I flew from. They gave him a first jump certificate and then grounded him for opening too low. :) True, it happened but the cert and grounding were a joke. He never flew singles as a jump pilot again. He would only fly the old Bongo after that incident.
Just don’t count on opening those cargo doors after an emergency off-field crash landing with the flaps down. The 180-185 or Beaver provide safer bush operation. It’s done, but don’t even think about beach landings. The nose wheel gets in the way and a prop strike can be lethal.
How on earth can Textron charge $680k for this aircraft, where is all the expense, the electronics, the design team, is it constructed of platinum under the paint, I cannot understand that price, out of the range of white and blue collar citizens.
Blame the sue happy public that have since the 80s sued Cessna and every other general aviation manufacturer for stupid shit pilots do and kill themselves doing...a large portion of every sale price is set aside for any liability lawsuits
Well, considering that a C172 (TDI) cost $500k, that can not even carry 4 People legally, and a real 4 seater well equipped Cirrus is about $1.000k the price is not so unrealistic. And, there are not many comparable planes that can array a complete pallet through the back door.
I’m curious about something he said on the ground @4:40 regarding the turbo and not needing to lean the mixture until you reach 17k feet or higher. Then @10:25 you see them leaning out the mixture when it appears that they’re at 6,600 feet. Am I missing something?
I’ve had a restored 1965 Cessna 172!We kept those ash trays in there gleaming! That Stationair is wicked! what a ship!These new Cessna’s are not your Grandpappy’s Cessna’s!I bought a 2005 182T with 369HRS!I am Stoked!She is beautiful blue and white and I can’t wait!upfront we have the Garmin 1000 Glass Panels and we are just finishing the paperwork before she comes to Maine from Texas!”Fly Away” exemption NO SALES TAX!!!!Which I just found out!!Keep ‘em flying Boys and Girls!!!cct
Cessna Centurion 1986 model R. It is much better than this Stationair. I can not understand why Cessna stopped making the Cessna 210. This Stationar burns twice as much fuel as a Centurion and flies more slowly.
From a marketing standpoint I'm guessing it's easier to sell a plane that doesn't require maintenance for retractable gear or require the pilot to have the ability to operate retractable gear. Which is why Cirrus doesn't have RG.
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE CESSNA! But, non-pressurized and dated design? Come on Cessna! Same sentiments for the Caravan too! If offering for personal use as an option, should be able to climb above the weather with that kind of passenger capacity/room and pricing! Let's get into today or beyond, have your design engineers sharpen their pencils, and get to work. Cessna can or should be, ultra competitive in all aspects of innovation, design and pricing! YOU CAN DO IT!👍🇺🇸💪 Or Possibly introduce an updated version of the Cessna P-210, with optional power-plants. Option #1 could be a piston that can burn Jet A and option #2 could be a Turbo-prop. Offer a few panel equipment options and AOA. Try to price it accordingly and put together an agressive marketing campaign. Thoughts? (If cannot have any of the above, c an we at least request a more ergonically friendly T-handle, console mounted throttle quadrant, that would of course include a mixture control lever in that same quadrant). Although I am a "High-wing" Pilot, and a fan of Cessna, it would be very tempting if Piper reintroduced an updated version of the 6-place Saratoga, with optional or standard pressurized cabin, a couple of power-plant options (1. Piston that can burn Jet A or 2. Turbo-prop), a few panel equipment options and AOA. Again, thoughts/suggestions would be awesome. Happy/Safe Flying!
@@STARTTHEMBOTH Point taken. Possible solution: introduce an updated version of the Cessna P-210, with optional power-plants. Option #1 could be a piston that can burn Jet A and option B could be a Turbo-prop. Offer a few panel equipment options and AOA. Try to price it accordingly and put together an agressive marketing campaign. Your thoughts? Thanks!
Bartonovich52 that’s horseshit. In 1956 a new car cost on average $2050. A new Cessna 172 in that same year cost about 4 times that at $8700. An average new car in 2018 cost less than $35,000 yet a new Cessna 172 now cost almost 10 times as much. So no that’s now what aircraft cost, that’s just what they charge because unless you buy an aircraft kit and build it yourself, they know u don’t have a choice but to pay it.
Old design doesn't mean it's bad. Also read up on litigation in aviation. That's why shit cost so much money. Also if you really want to get down to it, the original airworthiness is from the 60s but compare this to a 206 from 1960 to today, it is completely different. Maybe if you actually flew planes you'd understand this?
+ Daytona Sixty-Eight . This stuff appears on every aviation forum now,...about how much airplanes cost here and how screwed up our society is... Buncha Russians. I'm surprised the Stationair is so inexpensive, given what it has to offer. The Russkies cannot build anything that will even stay in the air.
A Cessna plane can last for multiple decades. If you buy a new Cessna today, it could last until 2100; maybe longer. Thus, there is value in paying that kind of money an airplane. Further, airplane companies are always going bankrupt or struggling. Thus, I doubt they are ripping people off. If there was real profit to be had, someone would come in and make them for half the cost, but no one is, because its a tough business of lawyers, litigation, FAA, paper work, lots of staff. If I had to guess, I bet that the prices of airplanes in the 1950s were cheaper because the aircraft companies were still using the same factories that they had during WW2. Europe was a wreck and America was the only place that had factories and workers unaffected by the war. Also, the market of buyers were probably better with so many ex soldiers on the GI Bill or actual WW2 pilots wanting to fly for recreational. If we want a cheaper plane today, we would have to manufacture it mass- assembly style, like the model T, and get rid of a lot of the FAA rules and the litigation of big money against aircraft manufactures (like a cap on what can be awarded)
Rather buy a GA8, yeah tad slower but half the maintenance cost (its faster to strip out s 208 than a 206H) and more useful load. Cessnas quality control has taken a massive dive, would be very wary of buying a new one these days.
Actually it’s a TIO-540. The magic is in the T. I have a TU-206G with the TSIO520 and it has no problem doing 163KTAS @17.5k and about 72% power. I agree that sharing max speeds for 100% power is a little irrelevant for a “review”.
Thanks. I have a fixed gear Saratoga, of almost the same horsepower as advertised for the 206 HD at sea level, and on a hot day, I don't even get up to cannula altitude, much less the flight levels. Perhaps I should cash in some Bitcoin and get a TBM 850. Love the smell of kerosene.
So in an emergency the back seat passengers can't open the forward rear door to prevent jamming on landing? Or if they do the pilot cannot use the flaps? Will the forward rear door open fully after the flaps are deployed?
Brandon Murray There is a cutout in the flaps on the right side of the aircraft. The front door can be opened far enough to unlatch and fully open the rear door.
Brandon Murray if the door was open far enough to let off the switch, it would disable the flaps. But if the flaps are down already you can open the door no problem.
You’d put the flaps down and crack the front door because the right flap is about 4 inches shorter than the right one to have that cutout for that purpose
Nice plane, but at more than $700,000 it is accessible (i.e. affordable) to almost nobody, which is why they sell fewer than 50 per year. Hard to understand why a nearly 60-year-old airframe should cost so much, even with the fancy G1000 and turbo engine.
My standard size pallets are 4x4x4 and 6,000lbs. Will it haul it securely? I do not see any strap or chain securements on the flooring. Seat belt arrangement is all wrong for me.
I had a charter company for many years. One of my planes was a T206. And it hauled everything. But anything in the back doors over 2 feet wide would never fit. The fuselage gets smaller further back of course. A 2 foot wide casket was about the limit. A 4 foot square pallet wouldn't even come close to fitting. Period.
Regardless of retail amount, would be nice if Cessna or Textron would style the 206 from rear glass forward, like the 177 Cardinal. A more aerodynamic front end should result in better fuel burn, increased speed and look more up to date/"sexy". A more comfortable T-handle throttle lever would be nice too. Also, a JET-A TURBO w/FADEC option and pressurized cabin would be awesome. If possible, strengthen the wing spars and no more wing struts, which is another increase in aerodynamics/speed, better aesthetics and reduced wind noise. Thats all.
Hum, it’s such a bad airplane, I wonder why people buy them? I suppose pilots with the ability buy new 206’s are just stupid! Well, I will just be stupid when I get my new 206 in November. All the really sharp guys can enjoy there really good old stuff!🤪
Sadly, with all seats installed, the useful load isn't all that useful, if you stuff it full of modern American bodies. The ancient versions had at least as much useful load. Why has the plane gained so much weight? Today's avionics are lighter, insulation should be lighter, etc.?
It is that pretty interior! Old ones just had cheap plastic panels help on with a few screws. Not it looks like a BMW on the inside. So it's an ugly cycle. If you are going to charge 700,000 dollars for it better be pretty and frilly! However unlike, say, that 100 pounds of dead weight parachute in a Cirrus, you are allowed to remove this frilly interior and get your useful back
I BELIVE IT TO BE THE NEW GARMIN G1000 NXI AVIONS SUITE,SAME AS GARMIN G1000 AVIONICS EXCEPT DUAL CORE PROCESSOR FOR PFD MFD WHILE THE OLDER AVIONCS ONLY HAD A SINGLE PROCESSOR FOR MFD AND PFD.SO I AGRRE WITH YOU MUST BE THE AVIONICS TO MAKE IT TOO DARN EXPENSE FOR ONLY A LITTLE OVER 700 NM.
It never ceases to amaze me at how a simple and maybe miss understood comment can get attacked with such malicious verbosity. If you really want to attack a concept, lets talk about a trip to McDonald's looking at $10 - $12 per person. Personally, I look at it like cigarettes. I don't complain about the price because I'm still willing to pay it. When it gets to be to much, I won't. When market demand falls off, I bet the price drops... just something to think about WITHOUT making it personal. "Come on people now, Smile on your brother... Everybody get together, Try to love one another right now" Like that...
No attacks here but I will take a differing postion: "When market demand falls off, I bet the price drops... " Well, the market did drop off catastrophically. They used to sell hundreds if not thousands of these per year. Now they sell dozens. So I think that pretty well shoots that theory down.
This 90 yr old bought a new 206 in about 69-70.GREAT plane ! Had almost all Cessnas (no jets) and this one was one I enjoyed most. Miss flying but 700-800 grand ! Wow, world passed me by.
Neil - As a young 81, I have figured out that some of the inflated prices are caused by the 'need for speed', which is usually people with inflated egos... 😏
I'm gonna say this. Steve Kent is a sharp man. I would hope that someone of his caliber works at Textron Aviation - he builds confidence in the brand! After listening to him my perception of quality, performance and safety shot up.
For those of you complaining about costs, you need to consider what this plane can do.
Look at the twin engine Beach Baron or the Piper Seneca. They boat cost way more but carry much less. The Baron with full fuel can barely carry 2 people and some light baggage.
The 206 is a work horse with a maximum useful load of 1800 lbs. With full fuel it can still carry 4 ppl and bags. At 165 knots.
Sure the twins go a bit faster but they can’t carry all your stuff and friends. If I had the money the 206 would be on a very short list for me.
"It had it's roots carrying a full load into short strips" While showing a landing that took 3/4th of a runway. I'm impressed.
It's a displaced threshold. You can't land on the first part. Look at the arrows
Dang. Steve Kent & Larry Anglisano know their stuff. Impressive! Cessna did well on this one.
Fun fact about the Windham Airport in Willimantic, Connecticut: It was originally owned by the Town of Windham, but was sold in the 1970s to the State of Connecticut for $1 in order to keep the airport running after the town ran into some financial difficulties and couldn’t afford to continue operating the airport.
I fly a 2017 T206H and absolutely love it. Can’t think of a better airplane for what I use it for!
+J.S.Morrow Thank you, sir, Finally, a real AMERICAN on these boards. Glad to hear you like it! No, I don't work for Cessna!
9:03 Station Air Stabilizer is the same length as a Station Air elevator. Great information, I'll keep that in mind.
I hope they got all of the Lycoming exploding crankshaft issues resolved with the 206! Cessna did an artful job at hiding that story.
Textron Aviation. They dont seem to even want to acknowledge Cessna anymore.
No they don't which is just a shame.
Huge initial depreciation is an excellent reason to buy used.
It takes you to stations in the air
Steve you are a big man!
You make that plane look like an amusement toy, and I have been around many 206, they are not small. 😄
A GMC Denali with wings. Never knew it was 6” wider than the Hawk I fly. Wow
It's a real big plane. I sat in one at a Cessna sales demo at an FBO I flew into a while back. If you're used to a 172 (as I am) the 206 feels huge. It's especially surreal because the proportions are all basically the same, so it's like someone took a 172 and just enlarged it by 2x.
Great plane and nice to be able to actually take passengers.
I've taken off dozens of times in a 206 but have yet to land in one. Ya I skydive.
me too
I've yet to land in one piece
This guy is obviously a salesman to the bone, but this _does_ seem like an impressively versatile and well thought out little airplane. Just how easily configurable they made it -- especially with the seats and doors -- and the fact that they took into consideration not only the _size_ of standard items like pallets and oil drums, but also the ease of loading/unloading them.
This level of forethought in engineering shouldn't feel impressive to me (especially in a modern machine with a modern price tag), but it does. I've seen nothing in my last 5 Chevys or Fords that has led me to believe the engineers put even 10% of the consideration of user experience that the people who engineered this airplane have.
This was designed in the early 60's. Nothing has changed to the frame since then.
Flew one in the early 80's. Loved it. 600hrs of bush charter flying in the outback was a privilege.
I just saw this airplane in Georgia with Steveo1 and Mindy. A very nice sized Turbo airplane.
Yep! th-cam.com/video/yvTDItIHfwk/w-d-xo.html 👍
Beautiful piece of equipment.
Nice work man! You sold me at 9:45. Love Cessna! Especially the 206!!!
when the main competitor is an aircraft from the same parent company.
Excelente reportagem! Belissíma aeronave! Robusta, segura e honesta a seus propósitos!
Love this plane :) Happy to fly one of her older sister a TU206G in parachute operation
Any aircraft that cost that much, can not be considered a working man's airplane, and you'll never pay for that machine, by doing the mail run somewhere in southeast Alaska.
@757WN do not forget the short beds and lifted to the sky with a monster drop hitch
You'd be surprised...consider there are 45 year old 206s making money that when new people like you were saying the same exact thing
THANK YOU for this. OMG, this is exactly what I have been looking for. I can't even find this on the Textron site. Steve Kent, could you please do this for all of the Textron aircraft, and have them post it on the Textron site as well? I've been scouring the web looking for exactly this and was coming up empty. As a matter of fact, perhaps Textron should post a link to this video on their site. Thank You for this. I really appreciate it.
did you end up getting one ?
I just said the same.
Cessna, please get it certified for FIKI and I'll buy one tomorrow.
I love this aircraft
9:35 And I believe a 172 has 3 inches more wingspan than the 182. I can understand that cos the 182 has clipped wings for more speed, since it has way more power too.
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I'm glad I got the opportunity to get checked out in a 206 years ago and now I'm back flying the might powerful TS IO -520 300 . I love how the aircraft performance is from takeoff to climb cruise power during my flight and it would be great if Cessna would design more cowling luvers for CHT but overall I manage it by my cowl flaps and power settings below 400 degrees at times and especially during my descent to prevent shock cooling from 10,000 feet or below to pattern altitude and if anyone has a 2018 Turbo 206 that needs to be delivered or justified for flight operations to carry passengers or freight then let me know so I can utilize the aircraft for you or your company
As a kid AOPA was giving away a 206 and it was my dream airplane
5:09 Immediately recognized where you were flying, I’m based at Groton New London airport, and you can see it out the window! Lol. VERY familiar view!
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I always wander how could anyone open that front cargo door in case of an emergency with those big flaps extended to the landing position in case of no flap retraction.
I wondered the same thing. Must be a precise procedure about it in the emergency procedures.
I might buy that as my first ever air plane
Did you end up getting it? or did did you get something else ?
In 1956 a new car cost on average $2050. A new Cessna 172 in that same year cost about 4 times that at $8700. An average new car in 2018 cost less than $35,000 yet a new Cessna 172 now cost almost 10 times as much. Aircraft shouldn’t cost so much but they charge crazy prices because unless you buy an aircraft kit and build it yourself, they know u don’t have a choice but to pay it.
Lawsuits and liabilities of morons getting licenses are actually two of the major issues behind the absurd prices in aviation, lawyers got a picnic day with big corporations every time one these egomaniac with money get kill in an accident just because he thought that he was proficient enough to manage and flight a plane.
+ Repeat Offender The rich among us largely work very hard for what they have. The poor that don't eat well appreciate the value of the dollar. The drone they send for you will vaporize your popgun. And we have a wonderful country....Russian....sorry you don't.
William R McIntosh Unfortunatly that's just not true. The top one percent control 97 percent of the wealth and the average blue collar works gets paid 1,000 times less than a C-level exectuive .. so are executives doing 1,000 times the work of the front line guy, I think not!
Why dont you take a risk like Sam Walton did and put your ass on the line and build your own company from scratch instead of taking the easy way and collecting a check from "the man". Instead, you bust your ass and collect a check and bitch about those that have more.
how about improving your skills or starting your own company and taking some risks instead of collecting a check for a crap wage. So you think you should make 100,000/year driving a forklift?
34 GAL for 166 KTAS. That is about as inefficient as an SEP gets :) still a nice aircraft 👍🏻
+Lop Flyer That's a break-in power setting, not at all typical for normal operations. That guy Larry just made an asinine comment, and he should have known better.
Its usually 18 gph at 6000 feet and 155 kts on my C 206 T
I’ve done factory deliveries of the t206h. Pretty much anyone can fly it. It’s about the easiest thing you’ll ever fly.
Awesome video of an Awesome aircraft
Big fan of Cessna however it’s very sad that they used to be the airplane for the masses, not anymore. They’re basically giving the trainer segment to diamond because they no longer make the 152. It’s too bad.
+ Sam The C-150/152 series is still going strong because they were so well-made, and they're just too good to be through. There are far more C150s around than Diamonds. The Chinese now own Diamond. At least Textron sill makes an American airplane
William R McIntosh "At least Textron sill makes an American airplane"
Aren't you forgetting that the ill-fated Cessna Skycatcher was to have been built in China?
Cessna missed a golden opportunity. They had a chance to corner the market on the small trainer market when they introduced the 162. But they tried to put in so many frills that they ended up pricing it out of competition. Had they made a basic, rough and tumble trainer with bare bones equipment for under $100,000 fly away, they would have made a fortune.
@@seikibrian8641 + SeikiBrian That's right! Good point! Well the whole LSA market never materialized for some reason-i don't know why!
Biker Mike "...when [Cessna] introduced the 162...they tried to put in so many frills that they ended up pricing it out of competition."
The problem with the 162 was performance. It was over-weight, and couldn't carry two normal-sized Americans.
I really miss flying the C-206. The last time I flew one was mid 1990s! She was heavy on the controls and had very basic cockpit (not the flying TV rooms you see today). I would love to fly one again. Operating the 206 is like having a fat girlfriend: she doesn't dress up that well, but she sure can carry a lot.
Great clip. I learned a lot. Thanks.
Mind boggling that they wouldn't have a fadec engine on this.
So you are telling me that I'm going to buy a half million dollar airplane to carry pallets and barrels
Peyton Trowbridge for freight, step up to the Caravan.
Peyton Trowbridge "So you are telling me that I'm going to buy a half million dollar airplane to carry pallets and barrels"
Many people do, particularly in the ranching, oil, and construction trades.
I dont fly barrells and pallets in mine. Caskets pay better.
Uh, yes. That is the same reason people buy million dollar trucks as well.
@@robajohnson but they have a capacity of more than three or four barrels
Great vid. Love this plane! And the rv6 and newest ones too.
Just watched a video on stevo1kenvo’s flying this exact aircraft between my home airport @ Falcon Field and Heaven’s Landing in north GA
+Biker Mike I agree w you about their missed opportunity. Don't understand why they just didn't bring back the C150-M
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Thanks Jeff, sorry
Love the new 206.
You can do anything in it but see over the panel.
The 206 is a great skydiving jump ship.....
Unless one of the lawn darts hanging out the door snags his reserve handle (or his throwaway gets snagged). Had a static line student deploy *INSIDE* the cabin once. The jumpmaster dived on it real quick. I like the C205 because it had the escape door up front with me. To get out of a 206 you needed to be at 4,500 and then you would get a 4 or 5 second canopy ride. That happened to a pilot at the same DZ that I flew from. They gave him a first jump certificate and then grounded him for opening too low. :) True, it happened but the cert and grounding were a joke. He never flew singles as a jump pilot again. He would only fly the old Bongo after that incident.
Just don’t count on opening those cargo doors after an emergency off-field crash landing with the flaps down. The 180-185 or Beaver provide safer bush operation. It’s done, but don’t even think about beach landings. The nose wheel gets in the way and a prop strike can be lethal.
EXCELLENT presentation!
How on earth can Textron charge $680k for this aircraft, where is all the expense, the electronics, the design team, is it constructed of platinum under the paint, I cannot understand that price, out of the range of white and blue collar citizens.
Blame the sue happy public that have since the 80s sued Cessna and every other general aviation manufacturer for stupid shit pilots do and kill themselves doing...a large portion of every sale price is set aside for any liability lawsuits
Well, considering that a C172 (TDI) cost $500k, that can not even carry 4 People legally, and a real 4 seater well equipped Cirrus is about $1.000k the price is not so unrealistic. And, there are not many comparable planes that can array a complete pallet through the back door.
Wow, what a nice plane!!
I’m curious about something he said on the ground @4:40 regarding the turbo and not needing to lean the mixture until you reach 17k feet or higher. Then @10:25 you see them leaning out the mixture when it appears that they’re at 6,600 feet. Am I missing something?
Shoutout to “Thread City” Willimantic, Connecticut!
Only problem with it is that in an emergency with flaps down (i.e. a crash) that rear door can not open blocked by the extended flaps
I'm looking at the 206 for a potential cargo operation (island hopping).
Narrator must be 6'8 320 lbs. That plane looks tiny next to him.
6'5" 280 lbs.. he says it in the video
@@Regular_Thomas Do people still use 'feet & pounds' these days? LOL
@@TRPGpilot 'Muricans.
@@operationscomputer1478 Oh yeah, I forgot about that, as backwards as can be . . .
@@TRPGpilot you for forgot about that? as simple minded as can be..
Thanks for the "within reason" disclaimer!! Hahaha......
I’ve had a restored 1965 Cessna 172!We kept those ash trays in there gleaming!
That Stationair is wicked! what a ship!These new Cessna’s are not your Grandpappy’s Cessna’s!I bought a 2005 182T with 369HRS!I am Stoked!She is beautiful blue and white and I can’t wait!upfront we have the Garmin 1000 Glass Panels and we are just finishing the paperwork before she comes to Maine from Texas!”Fly Away” exemption NO SALES TAX!!!!Which I just found out!!Keep ‘em flying Boys and Girls!!!cct
No carrying concentrated uranium or dairy cows.
so the flap won't come down when the door is open, but how about getting out when opening the door when the flaps are down, ie. in emergency?
0:48: Even five-gallon buckets full of lead? Asking for a friend.
Cessna Centurion 1986 model R. It is much better than this Stationair. I can not understand why Cessna stopped making the Cessna 210. This Stationar burns twice as much fuel as a Centurion and flies more slowly.
From a marketing standpoint I'm guessing it's easier to sell a plane that doesn't require maintenance for retractable gear or require the pilot to have the ability to operate retractable gear. Which is why Cirrus doesn't have RG.
What’s the glide ratio on that sexy tank?
The 206 is pretty big, but he makes it look small.
Where is Mindy!?
Safe to say a step above this in regards to size would be the Caravan?
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE CESSNA! But, non-pressurized and dated design? Come on Cessna! Same sentiments for the Caravan too! If offering for personal use as an option, should be able to climb above the weather with that kind of passenger capacity/room and pricing! Let's get into today or beyond, have your design engineers sharpen their pencils, and get to work. Cessna can or should be, ultra competitive in all aspects of innovation, design and pricing! YOU CAN DO IT!👍🇺🇸💪
Or
Possibly introduce an updated version of the Cessna P-210, with optional power-plants. Option #1 could be a piston that can burn Jet A and option #2 could be a Turbo-prop. Offer a few panel equipment options and AOA. Try to price it accordingly and put together an agressive marketing campaign. Thoughts?
(If cannot have any of the above, c an we at least request a more ergonically friendly T-handle, console mounted throttle quadrant, that would of course include a mixture control lever in that same quadrant).
Although I am a "High-wing" Pilot, and a fan of Cessna, it would be very tempting if Piper reintroduced an updated version of the 6-place Saratoga, with optional or standard pressurized cabin, a couple of power-plant options (1. Piston that can burn Jet A or 2. Turbo-prop), a few panel equipment options and AOA.
Again, thoughts/suggestions would be awesome.
Happy/Safe Flying!
Yeah, come on Cessna, the world can’t wait for a 1.3 million dollar C206 replacement!
@@STARTTHEMBOTH Point taken. Possible solution: introduce an updated version of the Cessna P-210, with optional power-plants. Option #1 could be a piston that can burn Jet A and option B could be a Turbo-prop. Offer a few panel equipment options and AOA. Try to price it accordingly and put together an agressive marketing campaign. Your thoughts?
Thanks!
Pistons aren't usually pressurized.
@@STARTTHEMBOTH yeah correct, Cessna work for buyers, not fans or reviewers. Buyers prefer cost rather than supercar design.
How tall are you? The airplane looks very. small
Autonomy of fly of the 206 cessna?
$700k for an aircraft of such an old design. I just don't get it.
That’s what aircraft cost. I don’t see any new designs doing what it’s doing.
Bartonovich52 that’s horseshit. In 1956 a new car cost on average $2050. A new Cessna 172 in that same year cost about 4 times that at $8700. An average new car in 2018 cost less than $35,000 yet a new Cessna 172 now cost almost 10 times as much. So no that’s now what aircraft cost, that’s just what they charge because unless you buy an aircraft kit and build it yourself, they know u don’t have a choice but to pay it.
Old design doesn't mean it's bad. Also read up on litigation in aviation. That's why shit cost so much money. Also if you really want to get down to it, the original airworthiness is from the 60s but compare this to a 206 from 1960 to today, it is completely different. Maybe if you actually flew planes you'd understand this?
+ Daytona Sixty-Eight . This stuff appears on every aviation forum now,...about how much airplanes cost here and how screwed up our society is... Buncha Russians. I'm surprised the Stationair is so inexpensive, given what it has to offer. The Russkies cannot build anything that will even stay in the air.
A Cessna plane can last for multiple decades. If you buy a new Cessna today, it could last until 2100; maybe longer. Thus, there is value in paying that kind of money an airplane. Further, airplane companies are always going bankrupt or struggling. Thus, I doubt they are ripping people off. If there was real profit to be had, someone would come in and make them for half the cost, but no one is, because its a tough business of lawyers, litigation, FAA, paper work, lots of staff. If I had to guess, I bet that the prices of airplanes in the 1950s were cheaper because the aircraft companies were still using the same factories that they had during WW2. Europe was a wreck and America was the only place that had factories and workers unaffected by the war. Also, the market of buyers were probably better with so many ex soldiers on the GI Bill or actual WW2 pilots wanting to fly for recreational. If we want a cheaper plane today, we would have to manufacture it mass- assembly style, like the model T, and get rid of a lot of the FAA rules and the litigation of big money against aircraft manufactures (like a cap on what can be awarded)
Like - Beautiful aircraft 😎 • Cheers from Mettetal Airport. Canton, Michigan ✈️
I love cessnas but the 206 is awesome
Rather buy a GA8, yeah tad slower but half the maintenance cost (its faster to strip out s 208 than a 206H) and more useful load. Cessnas quality control has taken a massive dive, would be very wary of buying a new one these days.
The big dude sounds like he has heart problems gasping for air like that. Should get that looked at.
Yeah I noticed that as well he seems to get winded easily. I wonder if he still has his medical.
Wow. ...!
I love to own one.
Shorter than a Skylane?! I think the 1967 Skylane that I have the most time in was $26,000 brand new.
Guys really concerned about the 50# drums. 😂. Jk I love the aircraft. Great application.
$708,000 isn't a bad price, but I wonder about the realism of achieving a 167 kt airspeed with an IO-540 and fixed gear. Seems like magic.
Actually it’s a TIO-540. The magic is in the T. I have a TU-206G with the TSIO520 and it has no problem doing 163KTAS @17.5k and about 72% power. I agree that sharing max speeds for 100% power is a little irrelevant for a “review”.
True airspeed probably at 20,000 feet with cannulas. The Corvallis has fixed gear and uses the same principle to get up to its record setting speeds.
Thanks. I have a fixed gear Saratoga, of almost the same horsepower as advertised for the 206 HD at sea level, and on a hot day, I don't even get up to cannula altitude, much less the flight levels. Perhaps I should cash in some Bitcoin and get a TBM 850. Love the smell of kerosene.
Sell your Bitcoin for ETH ;)
+Bartonovich Yeah, but who cares? The Stationair just hauls what you need hauled.
What was that end? So sudden!
Kaipeternicolas ikr, I wanted to see Block Island
Why do they make the rear gear so short....in my opinion
So in an emergency the back seat passengers can't open the forward rear door to prevent jamming on landing? Or if they do the pilot cannot use the flaps? Will the forward rear door open fully after the flaps are deployed?
Brandon Murray There is a cutout in the flaps on the right side of the aircraft. The front door can be opened far enough to unlatch and fully open the rear door.
@@kylevk ok, that makes sense, but the front back door can't be opened prior to landing or the flaps don't work. Correct?
Brandon Murray if the door was open far enough to let off the switch, it would disable the flaps. But if the flaps are down already you can open the door no problem.
You’d put the flaps down and crack the front door because the right flap is about 4 inches shorter than the right one to have that cutout for that purpose
Are you saying that you'd jump out the back door while the plane is in mid air ?
Que bueno seria poder contar con toda esta explicación en español....
The C-207 is a much better x-wind airplane.I feel it would have been a much better choice for your up grade.
Nice plane, but at more than $700,000 it is accessible (i.e. affordable) to almost nobody, which is why they sell fewer than 50 per year. Hard to understand why a nearly 60-year-old airframe should cost so much, even with the fancy G1000 and turbo engine.
Three words: Litigation, litigation, litigation.
My standard size pallets are 4x4x4 and 6,000lbs. Will it haul it securely? I do not see any strap or chain securements on the flooring. Seat belt arrangement is all wrong for me.
I had a charter company for many years. One of my planes was a T206. And it hauled everything. But anything in the back doors over 2 feet wide would never fit. The fuselage gets smaller further back of course. A 2 foot wide casket was about the limit. A 4 foot square pallet wouldn't even come close to fitting. Period.
I want a 206 casket hauler.
Get a Piper Saratoga or Cherokee Six, then.
Regardless of retail amount, would be nice if Cessna or Textron would style the 206 from rear glass forward, like the 177 Cardinal. A more aerodynamic front end should result in better fuel burn, increased speed and look more up to date/"sexy". A more comfortable T-handle throttle lever would be nice too. Also, a JET-A TURBO w/FADEC option and pressurized cabin would be awesome. If possible, strengthen the wing spars and no more wing struts, which is another increase in aerodynamics/speed, better aesthetics and reduced wind noise. Thats all.
Where did you find this guy? Can HE not do ALL the clips, with this sort of explanatory guidance?
this dude really letting them drug dealers know you can fit 55 gallon drums in the back lmfao
Great airplane!
Price?2018
$600K and it's not certified IFR? No anti-ice? Did Cessna drop the T-210?
its ifr..and cessna dropped the 210 in 1984
he's pretty good; could sell snow to the eskimos / oops inuit! my bad
Thanks for the few minutes i will never get back. Watching a sales pitch from Textron
Hum, it’s such a bad airplane, I wonder why people buy them? I suppose pilots with the ability buy new 206’s are just stupid! Well, I will just be stupid when I get my new 206 in November. All the really sharp guys can enjoy there really good old stuff!🤪
Sadly, with all seats installed, the useful load isn't all that useful, if you stuff it full of modern American bodies. The ancient versions had at least as much useful load. Why has the plane gained so much weight? Today's avionics are lighter, insulation should be lighter, etc.?
It is that pretty interior! Old ones just had cheap plastic panels help on with a few screws. Not it looks like a BMW on the inside. So it's an ugly cycle. If you are going to charge 700,000 dollars for it better be pretty and frilly! However unlike, say, that 100 pounds of dead weight parachute in a Cirrus, you are allowed to remove this frilly interior and get your useful back
The F350 of airplanes... I wish Cessna still made the 207...
The C-207 was called "The Crowd Killer", by local Parachute & Skydive Club Pilots, back when I learned to fly!
207 has same power and gross weight but more seats and less flaps. Crowd killer is a good name for it.
My question is, how tall is Steve??
Okay. He said 6 feet 5 inches.
Very nice Chicken-Hawk!
They've got to get the cruise speed up to at least 190 knots and still not burn through the fuel, It's just too slow the way it is
Jesus, where do these prices come from? The avionics must be a good portion of that unit cost...
I BELIVE IT TO BE THE NEW GARMIN G1000 NXI AVIONS SUITE,SAME AS GARMIN G1000 AVIONICS EXCEPT DUAL CORE PROCESSOR FOR PFD MFD WHILE THE OLDER AVIONCS ONLY HAD A SINGLE PROCESSOR FOR MFD AND PFD.SO I AGRRE WITH YOU MUST BE THE AVIONICS TO MAKE IT TOO DARN EXPENSE FOR ONLY A LITTLE OVER 700 NM.
It never ceases to amaze me at how a simple and maybe miss understood comment can get attacked with such malicious verbosity. If you really want to attack a concept, lets talk about a trip to McDonald's looking at $10 - $12 per person. Personally, I look at it like cigarettes. I don't complain about the price because I'm still willing to pay it. When it gets to be to much, I won't. When market demand falls off, I bet the price drops... just something to think about WITHOUT making it personal. "Come on people now, Smile on your brother... Everybody get together, Try to love one another right now" Like that...
Thank you. There's not much civility in some comments.
No attacks here but I will take a differing postion:
"When market demand falls off, I bet the price drops... "
Well, the market did drop off catastrophically. They used to sell hundreds if not thousands of these per year. Now they sell dozens. So I think that pretty well shoots that theory down.
Very nice!!