XTool D1- 10 watt vs 20 watt- Image quality test
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- The closest I can get to the exact same burn with both machines. The results weren't too different.
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Thank you for this video. You put my mind at ease on my purchase.
Glad to help, either machine is a good machine. The 20 watt is faster and cuts deeper but they are both capable machines.
Amazing informational video sir. I may be looking into getting the 10watt. Depending on the price difference. Again. Thank you. You earned my like 👍🏼 and sub.
Thanks, glad it helps.
Thanks, I enjoy your videos, you have great engineering skills and delivery.
Thanks… I enjoy it
I wouldn’t have expected a noticeable difference to the eye either. Good video Dave.
Thanks
As always great info, thanks
Thanks
Great video! How long did each take? Was one faster than the other? Thank you. I subbed!
The 20 is about twice as fast because it can generate the same heat at higher speeds.
Good Job. Thanx for sharing
My pleasure
Great job as always. I have a S9 5.5w and now want to move up to a 10w now. Liking this D1.Your thoughts.
The D1 has been a good machine for me. I have used it far more than the average hobbiest would. No issues so far. As always, each machine can have issues.
So far, the 20watt don't impress me yet, except maybe cutting acrylic...maybe. All the outputs published in the group, my 10 watt can do just as well. Not trying to be a smart Alec, but for now, I'm sticking with my 10.
I will say this, cutting wood it is much faster than my 10 watt. What took 4 passes before only takes 1 now. If you aren't worried about time, the 10 watt can do most of what the 20 can. I have cut 1/2 inch pine with the 20. My issue is on bulk orders, time is money.
@@TheClackShack yeah, I'm retired/disabled, this is a hobby machine, making small things here and there, just for a little bit of extra cash, and gifts.
How about a video of your settings and how you do portrait engraving on wood? thanks
I will try to get one out when I get caught up.
If at all possible, a Lightburn file for the D1 Pro 20Watt file for cutting and engraving showing the output for better results and less time and material loss. Have tried several Esty test files from different vendors but not really ones in lightburn for the 20 watt. Have purchased almost all of your files from Esty. And the majority are top notch from what you can control when a XTool doesn’t change machine tolerances, like for your alignment jig sets. Please advise and look forward to purchasing it from Esty as soon as possible due to the holiday gift giving. Regards, Dennis
Best settings is very dependent on your setup. Material, air assist setup and the moisture content of the material all play a role in the outcome. If I made a list, I could not be sure they would always be best. My advise is to test different settings and find what you like.
I feel better about my 10w purchase. Thank You Sir
I have had my 10 since the end of last October and still working it daily.
Another great and informational video. I may have missed it, but did you make a reference to the amount of time it took to create each piece? Did they both take approximately the same amount of time, or was there a measurable difference?
The 20 watt was much faster. With the added power, you can run twice the speed.
@@TheClackShack - That is kind of what I figured would happen. Just saw a link for a new laser module for the XTool lasers. It is supposed to be released on 8/24. It is an infrared Laser module to etch on metal. I'm not sure if it will be a replacement for or an addition to the D1 lasers... Things change every day. 😲
@@JoeGalanteTribute constantly, just wait. There will by an 800x800 D1 soon. Probably just in time for Christmas.
I have the original gray xtool d1 non pro 10w. i just purchased the grey 20w for said set up. What things have to been done when swapping out the 10w with the 20W. cables? firmware? lightburn settings? etc etc?
I have a 20 watt pro but haven't tried the 20 watt module upgrade. My understanding is that it has a separate power supply and you do need the current firmware.
can this thing engrave mirrors? or would it blow up.. i use to have an "etched" mirror, from a carnival it was cool.. havent seen one since...
Diodes can etch the back of mirrors. I have a video, search for mirror
What setting did you use for the 20 vs 10? Power Speed DPI?
I just run faster speeds with the 20 watt. Everything else is same.
Bonjour et merci pour vos conseils
J'ai besoin d'une nouvelle machine avec pour Objectif
- Réussir de façon excellente la gravure d'images
- une grande surface de travail
Que me conseillez-vous ???
J'apprécie vraiment mon Atromstack X40 si vous avez besoin d'un grand espace de travail. C'est un 40 watts mais j'obtiens de très bons résultats avec les gravures. Vous pouvez regarder mon live d’hier soir et voir les résultats obtenus.
Is there a difference in price between the 10 and 20 ? Thanks.
Yea, about $400
Are the results similar when marking metal?
I Haven't tried that
I took the risk to support Elegoos PHECDA. Currently i took the 10-Watt Model as reward. Does anybody think 20-Watt are better for cutting wood? Some people say a good air assist is more important. Yes that's true, but are am able to cut thicker wood with the more powerful laser?
Air assist is important for cutting regardless of the output. More output does help cut faster but it can be done with lower power output and more passes.
@@TheClackShack Thx! So with the more powerfull laser i can cut faster but the maximum thickness will not increase with a more powerfull laser? The focal length of the 20W ist a little bit better than of the 10W of the Elegoo PHECDA, so maybe the power/area is better over the whole thickness with the 20W?
@@indiumgalliumnitride5492 you can get a slight increase in thickness but the biggest difference is the speed and number of passes needed. Anything over 1/2 inch thick is unreasonable to be cutting with a laser. It can be done but just not practical.
@@TheClackShack I already assume that a diode laser is an entry-level laser if you want to cut wood with it.
I just hope, that's "easy" possible to cut 5mm (0.2 inch). My maximum would be up to 9mm (0.35 inch) of typical plywood/multiplex and for the 9mm i assume that i have to use plywood consisting of softwood like pine?
If that is possible with patience, i would take a 10W and take saved money for a better air assist. Usually i would cut up to 5mm plywood. The case of up to 9mm could be in rare case, but hopfully it's possible if i have patience for the long cutting time and a lot of tests (ideal position of focal point speed etc.)
I think if i'm really disapointed with a 10W laser also a 20W lase will not satisfy my need. Maybe then i have to buy a more expansive CO2-laser.
Thx for your answers!
What camera do you use?
I have a few. Mostly the fisheye cameras now.
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Sorry for all the questions do you like the cnc vs lazer
I like having both, each has its strong points. Lasers are cheaper if your just getting started.
@@TheClackShack
Thank you for your information leaning towards lazer now
If you buy a 10 watt can you upgrade it to a 20 watt later?
Some machines, you can but other you cannot. I recommend starting with a 20 if you are able.
I have the xtool d1 pro 10w machine.Can I change my 10 watt lazer to 20w ? does it have to be from the same machine xtool d1 pro or i can change it from machine xtoo d1 non pro?
I have no experience with an upgrade on the non pro. I know they offered it for the pro
So i can buy it rghit? I have the xtool d1 pro 10w and i want to buy the 20w leaser head can i?
You would have to check with xtools site, not sure if they still offer it. @@sadeemalalawi7302
Can you help me?who can i ask?
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So I am going to get an Xtool, but I am so confused about whether to get the 10 or 20 watt...I know as a beginner the 10 watt would probably be fine. However, I also own a CNC router, and I bought an advanced machine and am glad I did, because I want to do things a baby CNC would not do. I am NOT sure yet what I want to do with the Xtool. Thus, I am also thinking I may as well get the 20, but do you think I will have more of a learning curve on it? Please, ANYONE who has gone through this decision making, chime in!!!
Operation, setup and settings, both machines are identical. Either machine is a good starter just more power and faster burn times with the 20 watt. My opinion, the 20 gives you many more options for use.
@@TheClackShack what does the 20 allow you to do that the 10 does not?
@@LifeMind369 Finish jobs in about half the time..
Both have the same speed engraving on wood, leather and stainless steel? I would like to know that to run my business
Very close for the same results.
@@TheClackShack so the 20w is more faster for engraving?
@@carloscarbajal1399 , yes. 20 watts allows you to move faster
When time is money, 20 watt cannot be beat.
With very little variation in Ceader material. Maybe moisture content comes into play? Might be splitting hair here, far as realistic differences.
I agree, wood varies in density, but very consistent cutting.
The difference in resolution should only be obvious in tiny print.
They are very similar
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Am I the only one who thought the 10w image "popped", more?
It has a slight di8fference I think.
@TheClackShack Agreed. Great video and channel by the way. Subscribed.
10 watt more detail no question
Slightly.
I thought so too. I wonder if it was just from the settings or if the 10w might be a little finer.
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