xTool D1 Pro 20w Review | The Best Laser EXCEPT... (1 month later)
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- I recommend the 20w or 40w for maximum plywood cutting. The 10w can do engraving well, but not thick cutting.
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This is by far the EASIEST and BEST entry diode laser for makers In this video, I give the homeowner/diy/woodworking perspective on the xTool D1 Pr 20w Laser Engraver & Cutter. It's the best laser for the money! Seriously. I'll show (and tell) you what is new in the D1 Pro, as well as test out its cutting capacity on walnut and pine.
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Especially the comparison with a cnc ist great! Thanks for the video!
Amazing and honest review, I now know which one I will be getting. Thanks for your help!
Glad it was helpful!
Merci pour
toutes vos vidéos. Pensez vous
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sensational review. Thanks for bringing actual capabilities of the D1PRO as opposed to specs. Would you consider doing a review on what other materials it can engrave, steel/stainless/acrylic. regards Darren
Thanks Darren! I just got some black acrylic and am trying to get my hands on some steel (besides rulers and saw blades). Got any specific ideas? Also I have the new blue laser to try for those metals (but have zero experience - so everyone will benefit from my learning curve 😝)
My previous review of the d1 I did some other materials like leather, but not metal.
@@wittworks : Im looking at buying a D1 pro and want to find out which laser to buy and want to no what the standard 20W laser scope can do with cutting and engraving ( as you have shown in the last video)as opposed to what scope the new blue laser has and what materials and operations they are best suited too . I want to both cut and engrave softwood timbers and also would like to be able to engrave and cut acrylics and engrave stainless steel tags if the laser type allows.Wanted to go for the extension rails and air assist unit which seems essential. Absolutely love your impartial comments and have subscribed and will be watching any follow up videos you post. Keep them coming if you have time.
That was a very informative video. Thanks for that, because I have been wondering whether I should get one. Curious of your recommendation between this and the Sculpfun S10.
Thank you Spencer. I haven’t used the S10. It’s been offered to me, but, I don’t have the time or space to review every laser out there 🤭
What are you going to use it for mostly?
Given the three I have, I still think xtool is the premiere in the category and you can’t go wrong.
What is intriguing to you about the s10? Price? I have a comgrow z1 that I’m reviewing soon that looks very similar and is cheaper. It’s decent.
I would say, once you go 20w, it’s hard to go back to the 10. I have two 10w units and I use the 20w exclusively. Even if I don’t need all the power, I can increase the power and increase the speed, which gives me a fast run and an output similar to 10w on slower speeds. That said, nothing bad with 10.
Great review. Looking at getting one and most other reviews feel like paid adverts! Good to see someone who gives some realistic reviews.
Thank you! I’ve been messing with a cheaper alternative and it’s made me realize how easy the xtool is. I spent a month trying to get this cheap laser to work. If you can get around the customer service time zone difference it’s a great machine
@@wittworks thanks for that, I have been wondering if a cheaper laser would be a better option. Given you had issues, I might just go to the Xtool. I am looking at the kit with the rotary tool and the infra-red laser aswell.
Nice. I’ll have a video in a few weeks hopefully on the comgrow z1. It works but is finicky. I’ve had no issues with the xtool.
Awesome Review!
How does this compare to the Glowforge not taking into consideration the enclosure and the exhaust adapter? I have the Glowforge Pro but would like a backup just in case.
Hi can we fit xtool d1 laser head on any other brand laser frames like sculpfun Or Atomstock Or outur
does it cuts clear acrylic?
See. Your videos are good when you talk! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you David! 🤩
Thanks very much for this video. It helped me understand a lot more of what the capabilities of this machine is. I'd be very much interested in how well these cut 1/8th inch plastic and thin 1 to 2 mm of metal would be.
Diode lasers cannot cut metal very well, maybe shim steel.
@@tihzho Thanks for the info.
Is there any sort of reference chart for the most efficient speed and power to use for different types and thicknesses of wood?
a 65 x50cm unit with 20W head and usb port is $191 imported at the moment including shipping.
The limit switches are probably Hall effect sensors.
Air assist is really of value during cutting operations as it keeps the kerf clean. The key for clean engravings is a mixture of very, very, light air assist (just enough to keep your lens clean), and lots of exhaust air. When you engrave you want the soot to rise and then be carried away by your exhaust air as quick as possible before it settles back down on your work. With these open frame lasers this is difficult to accomplish. An enclosure with an exhaust fan will help keep your engravings cleaner.
I now have an enclosure and exhaust fan and smoke purifier and it’s exactly like you described!
@@wittworks what kind of enclosure, etc... are you using? I really want something enclosed, but want more than the 5W.
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I m new to laser machine and in market to use for making pop up cards from cardstock paper and some miniature wood pieces. I have Cricut maker machine.
1) does it work on cardstock paper making intricate cuts or too strong for it?
2) other tool air assist or honeycomb is optional in such application? like to try first and gradually like to add accessory.
3) what is longevity of this machine? I read mixed review on amazon
4)Looking at xtool d1 pro 10w or 20w . I see diff of 500 $ between them. Should I go with 20w ? Does 10W cut more intricate cuts then 20w?
Quick reply (if u can) will be great
I like those limit switches, and I wish they did the same thing with the xcarve. I’ve broken a couple things because of that not having any limit switches.
IVE BROKEN SO MANY XCARVE SWITCHES!
Hi, looking to buy my first D1 pro, is xcarve some switches that are on D1 pro or are Xcarve another laser engraver brand?
Mad I bought the D1 and then shortly after the D1 Pro came out I wonder if they'll have an upgrade program
Yep. I did a secret “dark side” video about it that I haven’t released yet. You can see it here: People are angry. We need to talk about the Dark Side of xTool.
th-cam.com/video/b3E_Fk2RHK8/w-d-xo.html
Purchased the D1 Pro 20W. It was delivered 4 days ago. The diode unit focus point thumb screw is stripped. I've been calling, emailing, bot chatting, and even sending emails to executives via LinkedIn for the last 2 days. The only response I've received is from someone telling me they will make sure everything is okay. Well, everything is definitely not okay. The manufacturing quality of the unit is unimpressive. I can think of better ways to spend $1,500.
Hi, did you get a solution? Im thinking on getting one
Any follow-up?
I returned recently my xtool 20w pro. It didn’t cut colour acrylic and tried so many times to get the engraving to work also. The smell of acrylic burning is so toxic it gave me a headache. I had to sometimes run a 5 pass to get it to cut the 3mm acrylic and you could really see and smell the burnt melted acrylic. Might be an ok machine but definitely not for cutting and engraving acrylic.
Very interesting!
Endless possibilities!
Can this cut 0.5mm aluminum?
I’ve been using xcs with my D1 I’ve found that the framing is more accurate the light burn
cool! it works now with the update
Not even close. Lightburn is framing wrong because you don’t have the correct settings for your crosshair.
Just curious. Would a 5 or 10 watt even be worth it, because you can just tune down the output wattage of the laser? -50% power =10w for example
That's correct. I don't think the 5w is worth it. 10w is good if budget is tight. Obviously the 20w is best and you have the full range of the power.
i have the 5 watt. takes two passes to go through 1/8 plywood. i would most definitely do the 10watt or 20 watt. i will be getting the 20 watt once it is not $599.00, so i am waiting for a sale
Good call. I have the 20 and 10. I like the options with the 20. However, I can get cleaner cuts on thick wood with my cnc. But for 1/4” and under, the 20w is great.
Where can I find Brandon's Speed test, I'm a 100% newb here. Thanks for the videos man
Thank you! You have to put your email in at the top of this page: www.makeorbreakshop.com/project/makeblock-xtool-d1-laser-engraver-review
They are an infrared diode and cds cell sensor. The tab blocks the beam, similar to the perforated wheel on an old school mouse.
So it’s magic!
I think they added the color & sent those out to everyone to make sure people knew this was a new item without confusion that it is just another push of D1 original marketing. Very smart of them if so.
Want to get into this as a side hustle. D1 pro is really expensive for me though compared to something like atomstack X7 Pro. Should I bite the bullet and spend that extra on the D1 with 20W to start with?
I haven't used others, but I think they're all relatively the same at this point. However I wouldn't get less than 20w. i think there should be a decent black friday sale
Good Review. I'm not even thinking anything under 20Watts. I really rather max power. Wish Xtool had the quad 40Watt! The issue is, the bed is tool small to justify it. I want to do 'cnc' type panel cutting for cabinet making, larger projects. Maybe, I'm better buying a cnc machine, plus a 20Watt D1 Pro/. Best of both! :)
Ty! After using the 20w, when I use the 10w I'm just disappointed. Would the extension rails be big enough? Probably not. I might be testing out a 50w co2 soon, but the bed size is small.
@@wittworks TH-cam... drives me nuts. I click away from my reply and it's gone! Thanks for reply! Extension table will be a must. Bigger is just smart. After some research, I'm seeing the old 'the right tool for the job' applies. Too many are expecting laser diodes to replace cutters. Not what they are made for. They can do it, but makes no sense if you are cutting anything thicker than 1/8- to maybe 1/4" material.
Love to see the 50w co2. My personal view is, smaller 20W diode with all the accessories, and then invest in a good table top cnc for the big stuff(stepcraft). Two purpose designed and built tools will in the end, be a smarter investment with many more options. Stepcraft cnc offers a laser head option at a very reasonable price. The Xtool is really to learn on. I'm always about buying the best tool I can afford with the best life expectance. 1500 budget for laser system, 2500 budget for cnc. 1000 budget for any add-ons are if I need to spend a little more to get a better system. I'm amazed how cheap cnc and laser is compared to just 3 years ago! 5k for a modern engraving and fabrication hobby shop? Heck, for another 800, I can throw in a festool track saw system and do just about anything! It's insane!
@@Curious_Skeptic i agree on the specific tool for the job. I have an xcarve, but wish I had the shapoko.
@@wittworks Unless I'm missing something, looks like Shapoko would be limiting for cabinet work. Odd sizing of tables. 33 x 33 for under $3k is attractive, but it's that extra couple inches for cabinet work I'd miss. 25-26 x 36-42" would give the cnc more ability to produce case work. Modern design, most upper cabinets are 36" height or more. Again, maybe, looking at point to point, cnc, panel cutter all in one just isn't , wait for it, on the table.
You want an avid.
Are there any clases to take on how to use the xtool d1 pro?
I’ve been thinking about making one!
How would you compare this to something like the X Carve with a laser?
I hate my xcarve. Selling it. I’d get a laser that is dedicated to the job
can you tell me if you can make a line width .013' and .050" deep
The laser spot size is 0.08*0.10mm. So it can make anything larger than that. You would adjust the power and speed until you get the depth you want.
Will it deal with cutting 18 mm pine wood? Is one pass is not harmful for diode laser? I don’t want invest in CO2 because i need bigger frame and workarea
The 20w cut through 1.25” (31mm) but it wasn’t clean. I would guess 18mm would be fine. I would do tests on scraps and then determine the best speed, power, and passes. I prefer doing lower wattage with more passes - it chars and burns less.
@@wittworks That would be perfect because I consider to buy this laser to cut pine wood 18 mm max but first i need to know how many passes does it take and what are the best settings for this type of cutting
what is the work space of this? and can it be bigger?
@@krzysztofparda6482 400mm ish. They sell extension rails that double the length. Check out NEJE MAX if you need something massive.
Do you know by chance how many hours it can work (per day)?
I’m not entirely sure, but I don’t think there’s a daily limit. But laser diodes have an hourly life, so you’d run through that (and other hard wearing parts). I believe that xtool has those hours listed in their website.
50,000 hours. That’s 5.7 years if you were running at 100% 24/7 so you’ll be hard pressed to kill it that way. Some other mechanical failure will make it unusable before that.
That’s great. I agree that something else will fail before then!
@@wittworks I have a 10w diode that is ran at 100% for every job. It’s 7 years old and runs probably 40 hours a week and still engraves the same as day 1.
Can you engrave metal?
I have not tried yet but they claim you can on some metals. I have a new IR head for it that is for jewelry metals but haven’t had any materials yet to test it out.
It's been a year. Any additional thoughts on the machine compared to others available? It's more difficult than ever to find trustworthy reviews. TH-cam is flooded with "experts" just taking money from these companies. It's a mess.
Did anyone else realized that they got Rick Rolled?
Can you try cutting leather with it
It cuts leather easily. I showed some samples in my original review video. You can see it at 13:20 here: th-cam.com/video/bejjgieXvsU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the Rick-Roll!!!
You're the first person to notice!
@@wittworks Yeah, we old guys are pretty wiley...
Quite extensive rick roll there pal
Hello, I have an tool D1 Pro 10w and I lost the power supply cable. I tried reaching out to the customer service and they will not tell me the specs on the supply. Instead, they want me to spend money on their website and screenshot me buying nothing, than once I pay for nothing they will send out the part I need from a 3rd party source. It is very odd and they will not give me any information. Can someone please tell me the specs of their power supply and where I can get one?
Did you solve it?
This is really a great video, but do you know what’s missing out there?
A real comparison of the alternatives: xTool D1 pro vs. Atomstack vs Atezr vs Ortur… basically: all the available 20W-machines.
It feels like every male had their sponsored reviewers, but no real comparisons.
Yes. I’ve had atomstack and Ortur offer me machines to compare. Haven’t taken them up on it yet.
@@wittworks I could just say: I would really love such a comparison as I find it hard to decide which to buy :).
@@j.4941 Isnt Atomstack more for wood laser works?
@@henriksvensson2836 How so? I mean, they are all 20W diode with a similar wavelength - why would one be "more for wood"?
I don't think there's a difference regarding material. Which is why I'd love to see a proper comparison.
I've been Rick-Rolled...
🤗 thank you for paying attention
@@wittworks 🙂
Shame diode lasers cannot cut expanded PVC (SINTRA) sheet. :(
@8:45 A "proper education" because they only know metric? What an insult. I use imperial and metric interchangeably. You should educate yourself about what a slope test is to determine the thickest cut you can make.
It was sarcasm Steve.
@@wittworks I know, I was just kinda grumpy last night. Cheers!
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How stupid…..gets all pissy with calling it a 3/4” board, then says it’s a 1”x6” board !!!
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I know nothing about laser etching, cutting..... Can this machine etch, inscribe metal ?