MG4 EV Real World 70mph motorway long journey range test - 160 mile round trip New Forest - Heathrow
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- This slightly longer video demonstrates the real world efficiency and range of the MG4 Trophy EV on a long trip at maximum legal speeds on the motorway. Conducted at between 9 and 10 °C, with about 50 miles of drizzle on the journey, and a few sections of slower A roads and motorway speed restrictions, still around 120 miles of this journey was at 70mph.
I have included mutliple points on the trip to prove that I actually did this all in one go, and interestingly, the slow sections demonstrate how much of an improvement in efficiency there is to be had by slowing down a bit.
On a 250 to 300 mile journey, there comes a point when driving slower, say at 60mph and not having to stop for a charge would actually result in a shorter journey time than driving faster and having to stop. The lower speed sections were showing between 3.7 and 3.9 miles per kilowatt hour, the faster sections were 3.5 to 3.6, so the difference was around one third of a mile per KW/h, one third of 62 is 20.6, so driving at the lower speeds would have resulted in over 20 miles more range.
Good real conditions video. I recently completed a 300 mile journey to Cornwall and back, keeping my average motorway speed at 60mph as opposed to 70mph. At that speed the consumption figure I achieved was 4.0 m/kW, so interesting to see how much difference the extra 10mph makes.
Yes, slowing down makes a huge difference to range.
Let's say you did 150 miles at 60mph. That is 150 minutes. At 70 mph that is just over 20 minutes faster. But, would it take more than 20 minutes at a charge point to make up for the extra power used? My guess is, with a slow charge point, yes. So, driving slower is probably actually faster for longer journeys, and cheaper.
What a awesome video. Thank you. I needed someone to tell me what the motorway range would be like and you can imagine my surprise when I'm from the new forest and would be making my journey to a little further than Heathrow 😊.. You've covered all the points my friend thank you so much. I normally drive around 75mph on motorways 😅
I calculated my journey and it's 86 miles one way.
Thanks for your videos, really good job! I live in Liverpool and I have a MG4 in Trophy trim, I noticed that when temperature is below 7 Celsius I struggle to achieve more than 3.2 miles/kWh on average, but in the few days when temperature has been more on the 8-9 mark, I easily got between 3.5 and 4.2 mls/kWh. I think watching your video we got about the same figures, so that's reassuring since it's my first EV :)
Go into the battery menu on the home screen, and switch of smart battery heating.. that will help if you haven't already done it.
@@BurlSolomons already done but thanks for the tip!
Very interesting Burl.
Many thanks for the commentary and detail👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Another great video on the MG 4 cant wait to get mine thanks for your videos
Thanks for watching!
HI Burl, nice video.
I've had my Trophy MG4 for about 3 weeks now and 100% love it. I do 64 miles round trips to and from work (so 7AM start, 5:30PM getting home) along the M56/M53. To be honest not seen 3.5+ yet (But I'm not too fussed as it's all well within limits - have yet to charge it back to 100% for eg).
I've been on a 110-ish mile round trip to Manchester and dign't even consider charging to 100%
What is funny though is watching my wife (who drives it far less than me) reaching to (A) inset the ignition key (B) the handbrake (C) the gear leaver 🙂 (And then cursing me and the car!)
One thing I did note was that you had your AC set to 21 - I can't seem to set it that low and still stay warm - I have to have it 27+ with the fans soundling like a helicopter!
Any thoughts?
The temperature sensors do seem to vary in their sensitivity. My feet were starting to get cold by the end of the journey.
Very informative videos, thank you. I’ve ordered a MG4 Trophy looking forward to it being delivered.
Hope you enjoy it!
Another really helpful video. I haven't been this far in my trophy yet, but I have a few trips coming up, including a 600 mile one around wales in April, so its nice to know what to expect! Thankyou.
Good luck! Just try to keep it between 20 and 80% and you shouldn't go too far wrong - though 150KW charge points are few and far between in Wales!
@Burl Solomons thats the plan, we have a little doggo that we need to make stops for any way, so we will just make it part of the journey to charge while he gets a leg stretch 😀
@@BurlSolomons would you say if we are travelling for the long haul and jumping from public charger to another, keeping it between 20-80% would give us around 150 miles of range in between?
Yes, around 150 on the trophy or 155 on SE LR. Basically with traffic, junctions and roadworks you rarely can do 70mph continuously, so assuming 60mph average speed you are looki at around 2.5 hours, which is time to be stopping for a break anyway!
@@BurlSolomons makes sense, thanks 👍🏽
Very Good thank you. Always helpful to see some real world driving range tests. Id like to see a video demonstrating the Lane Keep Assist and Pilot functionality on a motorway too. Perhaps another video?
Yes definitely. I was able to use LKA and auto lane change properly for the first time, and it worked pretty well. Unusable on single lane A roads though. Shame it can't be disabled on the fly and simple dumb cruise control allowed... oh well.
Thanks so much for that Burl, very useful indeed and makes my mind up even more to get one
Glad to help
Thanks for the video. This also confirms that you will get around 160 miles out of the SR version on the motorway
That is correct, though the lighter weight and better aero ( no spoiler) might help even more.
Very useful real-world experience - a good variety of British roads, traffic and weather, plus you’re in our neighbourhood of south Hampshire and not Spain or somewhere, all made this very credible 👍 The MG4 is top of the list if it passes the dog-in-boot test - hope to try her out at the dealer soon…
Thanks Burt - I have had my MG4 for a week now and will be using it for my monthly 200 mile trip to the office on Monday. Your tips will help me make it with no charging break (or perhaps one quick one). Marvellous. I've subbed and looking forward to reviewing all your videos!
Glad to help
How is the car dealing with the 200-mile trip? I need to make a twice-monthly trip of 214 miles and am trying to work out if I can get away with the Trophy Long Range or have to up the payments to get the Extended Range.
@@BlagmeisterFlash No problem at all. Even in the cooler days I'm arriving with plenty of juice. It's 198 miles door to door and I normally get there with 40-60 miles of estimated range left. The only time I've had to do a "safety" charge was when I did the journey in the dark and rain.
@@danbeggs3319Is this all at speeds of 60 mph to 70 mph?
@@johnflavin1602 Hi John, yes pretty much. About 3/4 of the journey is on Motorway and finishes off with about an hour on a decent A road. The whole journey probably averages 50-60mph.
Speed value on the small screen is frequently covered. Converting energy consumption values to kWh/100 km:
K = 1 / M / 1,609 x 100
would be helpful for non-english viewers.
I am from southern Bavaria, I have my SE Long Range since end of November and my average winter consumption is 18 kWh/100 km
M = 100 / K / 1,609
is 3,5 miles/kWh. Half is motorway (70-80 mph). Half the time were minor minus degrees.
Thanks for the videos. I am trying to convince myself to pull the trigger on an MG4 Trophy and you are certainly helping!
Like another commenter, I’d really like to know more about the driving assist modes, as I’ve read some scare stories about them being more dangerous than useful (particularly Lane Keep Assist, which I saw described as “Lane Kill Assist”, as people commented on fighting with it to not steer them off the road (particularly on country lanes)!!
I’ve also seen people recommend using Traffic Jam Assist over Adaptive Cruise Control on Motorways as it was more reliable. Love to hear your detailed thoughts on these features!
The lka was fine on the motorway on the whole plus auto lane change worked flawlessly, of course that is the only scenario it is actually designed for. I can't use it at all on the single lane A roads round here as the white lines are often covered with leaves. It's awful under those conditions. I find the best solution is to turn it off at the beginning of the journey and then when you engage cruise control it comes on and off when you disengage, so it's easily switchable under those conditions and actually good enough that I was happy to use it. I hated it on my Zoe and never turned it on. Same with my 2020 Kia Soul first edition. The Tesla Model S100D (2017) was the only other car I could use the LKA on.
@@BurlSolomons Thanks Burl, I appreciate the response. How about Traffic Jam Assist? Have you used that much and if so what are your thoughts on it?
Although I love my car - I would not buy one again. The LKA is actually dangerous. I think MG4 will have some law suits in due course. It can be a white knuckle ride sometimes
Go for standard range se with lfp battery to 100%. Much easier to swallow.
Don't use it!! It's dangerous 😳 especially in road works make sure it's off
I had a Leaf before and noticed that once you start going much over 60 mph efficiency suffered a bit. So I'm not surprised by your findings. A range of 200+ miles on longer higher speed journeys is perfectly acceptable. I generally like to take a break after 2 hours of driving anyway. I have the MG4 Trophy.
I generally drive at 60 to 65, and if a National Express coach comes past I pick it up and stay behind (at a safe distance e of course) to benefit from its vast size and lack of aerodynamics. This trip and video was for the general driver who just needs to get somewhere at normal motorway speeds. I guess I could have got 300 miles out of the car doimg my usual tricks, I never had less than 200 in the Zoe 50 on long runs no matter what the weather or conditions.
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Great video, I’m likely to do a 140 mile round trip once a week, mostly motorway, and have been concerned whether I can do this in a trophy long range in the absolute worst conditions/scenario.. it’s the one barrier to me getting the MG4.. this suggests it should be ok (hopefully) even in colder weather..🤞🏻🤞🏻
I think with a thorough preheat of the battery and cabin you should be able to reliably achieve over 200 miles range even in terrible conditions. Especially if you slow down to 65mph.
That’s really good to know.. thanks..👍👍
In those conditions - horrid rain etc, you'd probably be a braver individual than me to go anything over 60MPH to be honest, going down to 60 will actually help the battery a lot more than you think.
That range would be comfortably achievable. I do a 110 round trip daily for work and this uses less than half of the battery. If I keep to 60mph (I use the cruise control far more than my diesel car) and minimise AC use, a 100% charge will give me an indicated 306 miles. I haven't had it for a full winter yet, so I'll see how that pans out in the colder months.
Ps. I have my MG4 on order, (should arrive next month)....can't wait!!
I think you will be pleasantly surprised. I have had a lot of EVs and this feels like a really good balance between size, range, comfort, tech and quality.
@@BurlSolomons My wife has had a Mk1.5 Leaf, (30Kwh) for 2 years and loves it!! I keep borrowing it when I can. Love driving electric....😀
Hi. 1:46 in with the Auto Lane Change...can you clarify what settings you had if you remember? Sounds like you had full LKA (with Emergency Lane Keeping also??) Was it simply that you indicated left and then car steered into the free lane without prompting. Was the TJA function also selected? Thanks - Good vlogs
Just wanted to know is this the LONG range or the EXTENDED range version? Impressed with range even with motorway driving.
72 plate 62KWh long range Trophy. The extended range is 77KWh. Don't forget, a lot of the motorway in Wales past Newport and Cardiff is 50mph limit...
@@BurlSolomons Oh boy a motorway and 50mph and now 20mph in built up areas....grrrrr
Great video, I thought you were only supposed to charge them to 80%?
Watched your TH-cam videos, They are excellent
Has anyone worked out if there is a change in range if the hubcaps are removed?
Hi Burl, thanks so much for the videos. Really good insight.
I have a question regarding the speed limiter: If enabled in the menu, does it turn on/off automatically when you disable/enable MG pilot?
Or do you have to enable speed limiter in the menu every time you disable cruise control? Say if you leave a motorway so no longer want to use cruise control, but still want to have the speed limiter running?
Thanks!
I'll try to test this out on my next long trip
Great video I subs for I want to know more about MG4. I'm picking up my order today yeyy🎉🎉 I ordered 2nd week of January it took 3months, not bad waiting time for delivery
Thanks for the sub! Hope you are enjoying the car, any questions please ask!
Your videos are really excellent and very informative. You mention automatic lane change which I am not able to find on my MG4 (Trophy) Please could you advise how it is activated. Thanks.
Read the manual
The MG4 does look good in red
Oh yes it does. First red car I have had in 25 years... It's lovely.
I went for black, which I like. I wasn’t brave enough to go for red. All the other colours I didn’t care for although orange is striking but too much in your face
Quick Q. When you first got your MG4 was the miles per Kw not very good until you had driven for a few miles. I have had mine for a week, (100 miles) and only done short trips and it is only getting 2.6 to 2.8 mpKw.....
Yes they are left standinhg and switched on at the docks and the dealers so the efficiency figure is AWFUL at first. You can reset the readings by first pressing the middle button on the right side of the steering wheel, then toggling right on the joystick to the trips display, then up to the long term page, then hold the joystick down to reset. Good luck!
Great video as always. I noticed that the national speed limit sign on the drivers display was flashing even though you were at the speed limit! Very distracting and annoying. Is there a way to stop it from flashing? I know it's possible to deactivate it but would be better just to stop it from flashing!! Many thanks.
Yes, hopefully that will be sorted in a software update. There is a form on the app for suggestions, the more people raise issues with MG, the more likely they are to do something about them.
@@BurlSolomons Hi Burl ... where in the app is the form? I have the latest (for Android, v1.1.10) and there is no form that I can find. I do recall seeing a feedback option in v1.1.07, but that disappeared from v1.1.08 onwards. (Maybe they decided that the only feedback they were getting was negative - remove the option and no more negative feedback). 😉
Ah, the buggers have removed it! Swine.
@@BurlSolomons 🤔Do you know of an alternative way to contact MG for suggestions?
@@69mrhappy1977 The only way it to either forward any issues, suggestions or complaints through the dealership, or contact MG motors UK directly.
Knock off 4 miles - the last 1% is 2miles which is unachievable. Our last 2miles useable was at 19mph slowest uphill. So for safety and common sense - "X"-4miles. There is no slack in the estimate
I would never ever let it get that low. 15% and I am panicking!
@@BurlSolomons We were not happy - we could not find a charger and gave up taking diversions to look for one.
I'd be interested to know how much it compares to the cost of petrol, with current electricity prices
That depends on how much you pay for your electricity.. I pay 8p per kwh overnight and do most of my charging at home, so 2p a mile still, and I only went onto that tariff in October, it has since gone up to 12p but them still only around 3p a mile.
@@BurlSolomons that's a very good tariff! I pay 25p at night, on economy 7 and 39p in the day!
@@Markknightexeter Octopus Go Faster
I'm on Bulb at the moment, which is being taken over by Octopus very soon, I'll definitely speak to them when it's done 👍
At 30p per unit it makes no sense buying an electric car.
that percentage counting is not necessarily accurate. you really have to drive the battery to zero to get any valid result.
It's near enough. The BMS measures tiny variations in voltage, the voltage drop during discharge of Lithium batteries is nearly totally linear, so the BMS knows the cut-off voltage and will predict percentage very accurately, to within 1 or 2 %. Since I never let the car get below 15%, that variation is not going to be an issue for me.
@@BurlSolomons
i am not sure what you are saying is correct. certainly the ioniq and kona percentage is not linear. particularly at the lower end.
172.6 Wh/km = 3.6 miles per kilowatt hour
The rest of EU wants to know it in metric 😆
Má volant na špatný straně a jede po špatný straně silnice...😂
Middle lane hoggers galore!
Always middle laners... and tailgaters...
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