How to sharpen a handsaw using a file with Master Shipwright Louis Sauzedde (Part 1 of 2)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2015
- In this video learn how to sharpen a handsaw using a hand file inside Lou's boat shop in Wickford, Rhode Island. This time tested approach to sharpening a saw's blade will bring your old handsaw back to life for fast and efficient cutting when you are off the grid.
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My father born in 1915 was a master carpenter in the Marines. The reason you would sharpen your own saws was they were super high quality and not disposable. He had a matched set of saws with one for every task. Paraffin wax was always on hand to rub across the blade to reduce friction. I can still see him cutting through a sheet of plywood with very little effort. Long straight cuts were not a problem. These same skills were applied to everything he did be it metal work or overhauling an engine. You just become skilled with your hands. Pride in your work and tools is a big part of it. The rewards of a job well done are priceless.
You see so many guys without a clue displaying a technique they have never mastered and know little about. It is sooo refreshing to see the real deal. An old guy (sorry I'm one too) that has paid his dues and knows what he's talking about from a long way back. Thanks Bro and thumbs up and a sub.
this is probably the best video about restoring the teeth of an old handsaw and it is great for somebody with experience, but I saw this when I was a beginner and in fact it made me mess up some saws. when you are starting, you do not have the control and the feel for it.
to me, the foolproof way of dealing with sharpening is getting a new saw and, when it become slightly dull, sharpening it with the same number of passes in every tooth, trying your best to match the factory angles. do two passes, test it, maybe put another one or two in every tooth. in the long run, of course you can start putting your own twist on it, but this video adds a lot of information that can be counterproductive to a beginner.
You've got a lotta wisdom with very little filler talk. I appreciate it, thanks.
Louis, you make it look a lot easier than it is and this is a cross cut saw as opposed to a rip saw, which is filed differently and is easier. For anyone else just learning, get a cheap saw from a flea market to practice on, LOTS of light and good magnification. You can not teach years of experience - if you've ever tried to file a saw, you will understand and appreciate the skill in this video.
Scott
Having the right vice to hold the saw also makes a BIG difference
These tutorials need to be archived in the Smithsonian and the Congressional library for all time. There's not a lot of guys around with this wealth of knowledge and as you can see in the video five years ago he's not getting any younger.
That was a gnarly edge to start with . Great job!
Triangle handle on your triangle file - simply brilliant!
I have been using this method for a couple of years now and have recovered a couple of what I considered to be hopeless cases. Thanks.
Glad to hear it Rick!
The double layered glasses totally made it. This guy is an ancient monk of ship building. Congrats from France
Gotta love TH-cam, and it's plethora of Professors...Thank you!
you never fail to teach me something new..it never occurred to me to have the 10 degree lines on the bench in order to align the file...thank you
love the simple to the point instructions you share. THANK YOU!
Fantastic, thank you - I had a go at sharpening my Tenon saw a few weeks ago, tomorrow Ill give it another go!
That angle layout on table to keep file correct angle is a nice add-on.
just saw your video and appreciate your straightforward instruction. easy to listen to simple and direct. thanks
Nice work ! If I had know this a long time ago, I wouldn't have thrown out the saw that I had because it was dull. I would have liked to have restored it's blade. Thanks, I will remember this for the future.
Best video tutorial I've seen thus far. Thank you Sir.
great video very nice for an experienced master to share his skills with us.
Just finished sharpening/refurbishing my 5th saw. Thanks for the method. I usually dislike sharpening in general but this has given me a good leg up with saws at least.
Thank you for the tips Louis, invaluable!
The video is really good. The spoken information is clear and very complete. Most sharpening videos seem to "do this" then "do that". Thanks.
Rick Schuman gu
A joy to watch THANKS
Great idea using the triangular file handle offset by 10 degrees. Thanks again Louis!
I tried this method on a 12" x 14 pt backsaw but sharpened straight across as was advised by another saw sharpener. At the number of teeth and considering most of the work with that saw is ripping, I figured it would be a good saw to try this on. The results were wonderful. The teeth were all the same and the cut is as good as I have ever had for this saw. I am getting ready to try it with a 22" x 12 pt crosscut saw so I watched the video again to sort out what to do. I did not want to confuse conventional sharpening with this counter-intuitive method in order to make sure I get those good results again. Thanks.
A true experienced craftsman with amazing hand and eye coordination shows what amazing skills that we are slowly losing in this trade. .. Thank you for sharing this, not too many people try to use their undeveloped skills. .. not hard but practice is what makes the masters. ..
Skills that can be learned by watching these videos. I have a saw vice and the files. Once I have a saw set I will learn to do this myself instead of paying someone $24 to sharpen my handsaws. I have a lot of them.
My most favorite thing, and my least favorite thing all in one video. Listening to Lou talk, and the sound of a metal file on metal.
Filings mean a job is getting done. There is some satisfaction in that....
Awesome information. Thank you.
I would of had to been in total isolation to have restored that saw. But I appreciate craftsman like you who see the value in all tools even the one that's been abused.
Can you see the tops of the teeth and the depth at the same time? I think I'm filing with me head right over the teeth so that I can see the tips, but I can't see the depth well without moving my head off to the side a bit. Handling uneven teeth like you're doing is still really hard for me, so I'm hoping to learn from this. I jump around too, but have a hard time deciding if I should push or pull a tooth vs. going straight down.
That was really cool! I just bought a new saw for $12.
Damn, you probably just wasted your time here so because most new saws nowadays have their teeth hardened so you can't sharpen them like this. A lot of the time you can see it on new saws, a dark line along the teeth. Well actually, you probably didn't waste your time because this was a great video, regardless.
excellent video.
Awesome information, thank you!
great job
Thanks very much.
Hi Louis..any advice about files for sharpening ? Thanks
There is a chance that I’m the only person in the world who likes sharpening saws, especially cross saws.
thanks mr sawset
How hard is the typical wood saw blade? By the way the file cuts, it looks pretty soft.
Great video, very useful tips on how to shape and use the file handle. Like it. If only there was a way to eliminate the terrible, screeching sound of the file. I just can't stand it, even when wearing earplugs.
Legend
Dear Louis, what do you make of the term "gullet"? I only know this word to mean 'throat'? What exactly are you referring to with regards to the saw teeth when you say that?
Had the builders in working on the shed, they brought two new saws, and at the end of the work they left them, as they said they use new saws for each job. I suppose in these days where a saw costs just 3 pounds, and have electricaly hardened teeth, there is no longer needed the art of saw sharpening. Do you need to 'Set' each tooth, using a pincer type tool, to create the kerf width...?
Paul sellers ideas on sharpening hand saws 6:46 😅 6:46
is this sharpener tool or whats tha nema because I m looking for right making sharp my small saw
@glyn hodges ...w-e-e-e-l-l, yeah, but "the right size" isn't what you might think. You need a file whose sides are AT LEAST twice the height of the tooth-face (gullet to point) you're sharpening. Reason being, if the file's sides are less than twice the height of the tooth, as you rotate the file to get fresh surfaces, you'll be wearing out the center of each file-face...soon you'll only be filing the gullet, since the part of the file that hits the point will be worn out.
how do you choose the right size file?
I used to have a vise like that....
I have a couple of 'file' questions:
1) Triangular files are easy to find, but for sharpening a saw you need a 6-sided triangular file. Are all triangular files 6-sided, so just any one will do?
2) It was not clear from other comments which modern day files would be good for this application. Someone mentioned 'Nicholson' and 'Snap-on', and suggested that only 'Snap-on' still sold quality files. What is your personal opinion? And, are there other quality file manufacturers around today?
Bill Cowhig
1. All triangular files are six-sided, it's just that three out of the six are very small.
2. A lot of people like the Nicholson files (including me), especially the older ones, but I have never heard of Snap-on.
Any triangular file will work,
but some are going to last longer, other's not.
I know I am a bit late, but i hope this helps.
Bahco files are good.
Uh, Lou, I think you need three 120 degree angles to make 360 degrees around the file handle. Three 60 degree angles only equals 180 degrees, which is only half way around the handle.
I can't tell if he's trying to file it Crosscut or rip cut
Wow...how fascinating.
Would anyone be able to give me the name of the files he uses or a brand? I don't want to spend a fortune but would like to invest in something that will last pretty good. Thanks and Jesus bless.
Should one wear a mask while sharpening metal, or am I being over cautious?
According to Paul Sellers (see his You Tube video) all you need to do on panel saws is to file straight across. This put a rip cut on each tooth. The difference between panel and rip saws is the way in which each tooth is set. The way you are sharpening is for cross cut saws, which you don't need for most sawing applications.
There is no doubt that Paul Sellers is a fabled craftsman -- I study his videos and try to emulate some of his methods (but I often cheat and use modern sharpening equipment like the WorkSharp WS2000 and WS3000). And there are times I disagree with his advice. As you say, he does recommend using rip saws for, what?, maybe 90% of all saw cuts, saying that a properly sharpened rip saw does almost as good a job on crosscuts as a saw specifically sharpened to do crosscuts. That just is not so. Having used my dad's old Disston and Bishop saws, both rip and crosscut, which he kept very sharp (he started out as a machinist), I can tell you that it was a pleasure to use his cross-cut saws. They cut almost as fast as a Skilsaw, and left a cleaner cut. So let's hear it for FLEAM!
Jeezus...someone must have been cut'n rebar with that damn saw! It is a wood saw...right?
Wouldn't the teeth have to be "set" as well?
What you came for 3:47
only a goose would sharpen a saw these days.
That saw was in terrible shape.
Dude don't be cheap man. If you value your working time more 4 dollars an hour buy a new one. But I do have to say that I'm impressed of the work you are putting down on that saw. You must live that rusty thing
It's not just the "cheap throwaway garbage" aspect. New saws cannot be sharpened. The teeth are induction-hardened. Old saws were merely tempered so that they could be reconfigured and sharpened as Louis shows.
That's not a $10 saw. I have some saws my grandfather used to use, new ones are not the same and most cannot be sharpened. This tool was made before the disposable junk age.
Good quality saws are still out there for a price. They're not in the big stores. If you know what you're looking at, you can see saws in those stores that would never cut right unless they were re-sharpened. A hundred years ago, this saw would have been hand filed at the factory. When they switched to machines, a knowledgeable woodworker would often have to sharpen and set the new saw before it would cut like it was meant to.
It doesn't take long to learn how or to do this and it makes handsawing a pleasure.
@Patrick Ancona Try Bahco files (made in Portugal). I find they last longer than modern Nicholsons.