Here's an idea: you play by these rules for a pre-determined amount of time (lets say 1 h). When you find a shiny, only the player that found the shiny restarts the game. In the end... the player that is the furthest in the game wins.
A rule i'd add to this, if you wanna see who can beat the game first, is that every pokecenter can be a checkpoint, but you can't save twice in a row at the same pokecenter to save progress, and when flying becomes available all pokecenters have 1 checkpoint save, so you have to strategically use them if you wanna save progress past that point
@EmeraldKomodo That sucks, man. I always have Pokémon on my team, that have "catching" moves. Thunder Wave, Spore, False Swipe, anything like that. As for balls, Quick Balls, Dusk Balls and Repeat Balls are my favorites. Almost all of my dexes are filled, so Repeat Balls are life savers, if it's not nighttime and my Quick Ball failed. Though, my team is lvl 100, and I'm always careful with the moves I use, seeing how someone lost a shiny that was higher level than their attacker makes me cringe. Crits can be assholes.
@@N2UbzZ_ we will never know. I got two of six ever counted by me shinies to be piggy, before I even get the ball, and wally caught a shiny ralts, well fuck.
@@PM7 suggestion, Next time, everytime u see a shiny u need to catch it and use on your time, and the first getting a full 6 shiny team lose, that can make the video and the chalenge longer kk
All shinies 1:25 PokeMEN7 Squirtle 5:20 MandJTV Weedle 6:12 PokeMEN7 Pidgey 7:09 MandJTV Pidgey 13:51 PokeMEN7 Weedle 14:07 PokeMEN7 Bulbasaur and Squrtle 20:41 MandJTV Weedle Please like so other people can see
Considering the odds are 1/100 in these, that little stunt you pulled at 14:06 was more rare than getting an actual 1/8192 shiny. 1/100 (shiny bulba) x 1/100 (shiny squirt) = 1/10000 double shiny starter
@@guffman456 But the odds of that happening on those two specific Pokémon are 1/10000. Because that’s the odds of those two specific 1/100 chances happening.
Could a version of this contest exist where you race to beat the first gym but individually need to restart if you encounter a shiny? That way there is a theoretical end.
Ok so the fact that on one of the attempts had John’s Pokemon and his rival’s Pokemon makes me thing that maybe professor oak is just giving away shiny starters lol.
Rival: *gets shiny bulbasaur* John: This is impossible John: *gets a shiny squirtle too.* John again: *inaudible noises* Edit: Thanks for 41 likes! Edit 2: 73 WOW.. I WONDER IF I CAN GET 100
Can we address the fact that John getting both starters to be shiny in that last rival battle is like a 1/10,000 chance. Those are even worse odds and real shiny odds. John definitely loses this one.
One of the most hilarious ad breaks in this was near the end when they were talking about how cool Luxray is and John says “I cannot agree with you enough.” Except the ads interrupted before the word enough so it sounded like John disagreed! 😂
Just play where only the one who finds the shiny resets. That way when the other, who is progressed further, has to reset. That way it’s a heavier blow. I would think it as a more fun, less repetitive way to play further into the game. ❤️
John: I feel like you would like Solitaire. *30 minutes later* Michael: Man! I hate Solitaire! John: Well what do you expect from a game invented for the lonely? Michael:...JOY?!
What’s crazier: the fact that the catching tutorial is the last shiny, the starter for PokeMan is the first shiny, or the second to last round has BOTH STARTERS as shinies for PokeMan? I think it’s both starters. That’s insane. Imagine a play through with that.
I have played through firered multiple times without encountering a shiny the entire playthrough and 1 time I tried to shiny hunt squirtle in firered and it took almost 10000 resets it was ridiculous
I feel a good version to this challenge is whoever can make it to Brock or misty first, but only the person who saw the shiny resets, and the other person continues on with their file
This is actually a really funny idea for an actual "competitive" playthrough. Just like how your Black & White Metronome Nuzlockes were scored by death points where the loser was the one with the most points at the end of the game, you could use the same idea here except the loser is the one who finds the most shinies by the end of the game. I'd TOTALLY watch that playthrough. It could lead to some hilarious reactions.
John: Gets a Shiny Starter
"I call shenanigans and a restart!"
14:08 now that’s some Real Shenanigans
Starter*
@@Quitskle Why the fuck doesn't my autocorrect work when I actually need it to?
@@Quitskle wow you must be fun at parties
@@levibaker444 No they're right. I don't mind someone pointing out when I misspell something. As long as they're civil about it.
wow the discord delay really makes my attempt to lip sync your words WAY off
Hello there, sir
Lol
wait... how does this only have 4 upvotes when this was commented 7 hours ago? for some reason this is hurting my tired mind.
Luv both ur vids
Here before it's the top comment
*rival gets shiny bulbasaur*
John: what?! this is impossible!
*shiny squirtle appears*
John:ajjsbwshsmdhnwhe
I know right
imposible
You mean "VOOOOMAWOOMBUHDOOBUUH" :).
14:12
@@mickgorro you mean "VOOOMBAABUDEWVAAA
Lol
Here's an idea: you play by these rules for a pre-determined amount of time (lets say 1 h). When you find a shiny, only the player that found the shiny restarts the game. In the end... the player that is the furthest in the game wins.
I might honestly play this ruleset with some of my friends sometime
That sounds very fun ngl
That does sound cool. It would make another good collab too.
A rule i'd add to this, if you wanna see who can beat the game first, is that every pokecenter can be a checkpoint, but you can't save twice in a row at the same pokecenter to save progress, and when flying becomes available all pokecenters have 1 checkpoint save, so you have to strategically use them if you wanna save progress past that point
@@Codeheart I would've checkpoint after the gyms
"If it's not 100% accurate, it's 50% accurate"
"If it has more than 0% chance to status, it has 90% chance to status"
-The unwritten Pokemon Rules
The second one is only true if the opponent uses the move
@@Elle-nm5rt yeah, if you use it it has a 1 percent chance
but you just wrote them mine craft villager
by just i mean 1 year ago
@@bidoof367 by just i mean righteous
Normal people: OMG!!! A SHINY!!!
John and Michael: oh no a shiny!
Me when I see a shiny: Oh cool
Me, when I see a shiny: Oh, neat
My heart: *jackhammer noises*
@EmeraldKomodo That sucks, man. I always have Pokémon on my team, that have "catching" moves. Thunder Wave, Spore, False Swipe, anything like that. As for balls, Quick Balls, Dusk Balls and Repeat Balls are my favorites. Almost all of my dexes are filled, so Repeat Balls are life savers, if it's not nighttime and my Quick Ball failed. Though, my team is lvl 100, and I'm always careful with the moves I use, seeing how someone lost a shiny that was higher level than their attacker makes me cringe. Crits can be assholes.
Me when I see a shiny:Hey I was actually lucky for once
@@mostlywholesome timer balls are pretty good too
John: I’ll name it shiny so the game thinks I want a shiny and won’t give me one.
Game: *Laughs in face*
Oh you want a shiny? Here it is John
John's incoherent mouth noises when not only the rival's Bulbasaur was shiny but also his Squirtle, for the second time.
Spoiler Alert!!!
Read at your own risk
The fact, that he got the shiny squirtle first try is just outrageous
@@korvendavid still, that’s like lining up 100 pennies on heads with 1 having a special tails and flipping the special tails one first try.
But when you want one you can’t ever find one
Might even be scripted to plug in the subscriber thingy
@@N2UbzZ_ we will never know. I got two of six ever counted by me shinies to be piggy, before I even get the ball, and wally caught a shiny ralts, well fuck.
@@godlyman401 lmao he doesn't use it after all it's so lame
For anyone who wasn’t keeping track, mikey found 3 shinies, and john found 5 shinies, making mikey the winner!
I was really banking on people not keeping track
@@PM7 the one time you wouldn’t want to be blessed by rngsus it happens
Hey John, What Is That Rom Hack
I Need Shinies
@@sudeshkadam684 its not a rom hack its a ofical pokemon game xalled pokemon firered
@@delta-r1395 they meant the edited rom (they edited the odds of a shiny to 1/100)
This video could've actually ended in less than 2 minutes.
I still can't believe that happened in our first attempt!
@@PM7 yeah it is crazy finding a shiny starter first try and it being your first Pokémon
@@PM7 still not as bad as when you got the double shiny
One min and twenty seven secs to be exact
@@PM7 suggestion, Next time, everytime u see a shiny u need to catch it and use on your time, and the first getting a full 6 shiny team lose, that can make the video and the chalenge longer kk
14:07 Oak has to be a shiny Hunter to have 2 shiny starters, I bet Charmander was shiny too!
That was a 1 in 10,000 chance like jease
Both of them doing his intros in the beginning is hilarious
Yeah
Yeah it is 😂
I thought Michael was just mocking him 🤣
@@tobi_versace Same
*their
Computer game: *starts with the word “mine”*
Mikey: I’ve never played this
Must be communist lol
Minecraft
Mikey has played minecraft already, it was like a week ago
I know but that was recent so it still counts lol
@@itsyaboigames1997 o k
John: gets a shiny
Johns rival: also gets a shiny
John:Oh come on!!!
All shinies
1:25 PokeMEN7 Squirtle
5:20 MandJTV Weedle
6:12 PokeMEN7 Pidgey
7:09 MandJTV Pidgey
13:51 PokeMEN7 Weedle
14:07 PokeMEN7 Bulbasaur and Squrtle
20:41 MandJTV Weedle
Please like so other people can see
Bulbasaur: Welcome to Pokemon Talk
Squirtle: what F happen to our youtube channels.
Bulbasaur: We are going on new TH-cam channel PokeMENPlays.
Him having both starters shiny was a troll
Petition for Michael to do a solatire and minesweeper playtrough
Approved
*signs however many times i need to to make it happen*
A what?
@@luceofficiall baaanaaaaanaaaaaaa
Yes yes yes
John: I don’t want shinies anymore! Now I’ll always win!
Game: A FOOLISH MISCALCULATION.
Considering the odds are 1/100 in these, that little stunt you pulled at 14:06 was more rare than getting an actual 1/8192 shiny.
1/100 (shiny bulba) x 1/100 (shiny squirt) = 1/10000 double shiny starter
Wait so what are the odds of a shiny in fire red
@@Nommerz 1/8192, but they’re both using emulators to increase the odds for this video.
Too much math
@@creamtherabbitandchao8656
It's just one multiplication. How is that too much?
@@creamtherabbitandchao8656 it's just 1/100^2
"Theres no way we can get Shinies this easy"
*Remembering Michael's law which is if its Not 100% then its 50%*
We Boutta get Trouble bois
I didnt even think about that😆
Yes, 14:07 14:08
You’ll be happy to hear kids are still reading that book to this day; I just got done reading it lol
Hope you enjoyed it!
me too!
What book? I'm intrigued now
Never mind. I know exactly what the book is
I still don't know what book you guys are talking about, may anyone get me out of my ignorance?
The game to John:
YOU MAY HAVE OUTSMARTED ME, BUT I OUTSMARTED YOUR OUTSMARTING
This is a underrated comment
is that a jojo reference
@@lenbernal9923 yes
14:07 What are the odds of that!?
They have modded the shiny rate to 1/100
So 1/10,000 for both.
@@medichampion328 oh lmao thats more than the normal shiny rate of 1 pokemon
It is 1/2
@@chriszhu9683 ...oh yea i get it
Can we all agree that John’s luck is just absolutely amazing?
Can we talk about how 14:11 is actually rarer then getting a full odds shiny.
@@guffman456 But the odds of that happening on those two specific Pokémon are 1/10000. Because that’s the odds of those two specific 1/100 chances happening.
Alternative title: How to get shiny Pokemon fast and easy
Love your avatar! 😍
@@_freebirdnerd Thanks. I love yours!
Nice
Could a version of this contest exist where you race to beat the first gym but individually need to restart if you encounter a shiny? That way there is a theoretical end.
Michael looks in the intro like a more posh and exaggerated John, if that's even possible.
14:03 John’s reaction man🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ok so the fact that on one of the attempts had John’s Pokemon and his rival’s Pokemon makes me thing that maybe professor oak is just giving away shiny starters lol.
1/10000 chance, rarer than a shiny in gen 3
@@Msthanhlocfan yeah I saw one of the other comments that said that.
14:06 😂 I DIED! 😂
Edit: i keep playing this 😂 im up to 10 re-plays rn and i die every time! 😂
Rival: *gets shiny bulbasaur* John: This is impossible
John: *gets a shiny squirtle too.* John again: *inaudible noises*
Edit: Thanks for 41 likes!
Edit 2: 73 WOW.. I WONDER IF I CAN GET 100
It's beautiful lmao
No those noises were audible they were just incomprehensible.
You mean 57?
Actually it’s 66
@@lovepeople777 Can we stop at 67 please
Can we address the fact that John getting both starters to be shiny in that last rival battle is like a 1/10,000 chance. Those are even worse odds and real shiny odds. John definitely loses this one.
Shiny squirtle 1:26
Shiny weedle 5:21
Shiny pidgey 6:11
Shiny pidgey 7:09
Shiny weedle 13:52
Shiny bulbasaur 14:08
Shiny squirtle 14:10
Shiny weedle 20:39
John, suffering from success.
Thats DJ John to you
Title: You Find a Shiny Pokemon You Lose!
Me and probably you: we will easily win this
Finally a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary
One of the most hilarious ad breaks in this was near the end when they were talking about how cool Luxray is and John says “I cannot agree with you enough.” Except the ads interrupted before the word enough so it sounded like John disagreed! 😂
At first when I looked at the title I was like : whyyyyyyyy and then I still was like whyyyyyyyy
Mikey: *enters a battle in Viridian Forest*
The Bug Catchers Weedle: “SUPRISE SHAWTY 🤡🔫”
Ok, show me the not shiny! *sees shiny*
WHAT THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE *sees another shiny*
JNBGFDCHJMHBGH
Shiny odds have been modified to 1 in 100 chances.
'Ah, so 50%`
How do they modify that?
@@joshuakass-amsterdam8474 They didnt
Remember a shiny isnt 100%
SO ITS 50%
@@joshuakass-amsterdam8474 it's a modified rom, there are softwares for those "rom-hacks"
Alternate title: suffering from success
4:00 Purplecliff is thinking of ways to torture you two after hearing this 🤣
'I want the experience of spending time with you' - A Gentleman and A Scholar
21:01 the in sync “UGH” had me laughing for like five minutes
This battle for John is just insane... 14:03
8:24 I'm 32 and have NO IDEA what book they're referring to lmao. Definitely didn't have to read it in school. Am also in america.
Shiny Pokémon’s parents: you are special child
Shiny Pokémon: I know mom
Pokemenplays: go away
Shiny Pokémon:I thought u said I was special mom
The fact that this could’ve been a 2 minute video is absolutely ridiculous. I swear to Arceus that could only happen on John’s channel!
they found over 5 shinies while I cant even find 1 in 16 years
Hi, I'm Bulbasaur
And I'm Squirtle!
And this is Pokemon-
Ahhh!
What is it, Squirtle?
My shell! It's. . .
It's. . .
GREEN!
1:26
14:11 he is speaking enchanting table
When your a friendly competitive person
Just play where only the one who finds the shiny resets. That way when the other, who is progressed further, has to reset. That way it’s a heavier blow. I would think it as a more fun, less repetitive way to play further into the game. ❤️
I literally died at 14:07 when both pokemon appeared Shiny.
Like what are the chances! 🤣
Me: i'll try this challenge!
Later...
You Beat Pokemon Trainer Red!
12:30 I love how the exact thing is happening to them 😂
Except for John having Turtle poisened
me: spending 60 hours to get a single shiny
Michael and John: find over a nine thousand of shiny in a hour or so
13:50 NEVER GONNA GIVE YOUR SHINY UP
If Adrive was doing this he'd lose like a fly to the swatter
True cuz he has amazing shiny luck that I wish I had
Ikr
i like how mikey was mimiking John
Id love to see them do an episode where they do a random number generator 6 times and have to play the entire game with those 6 pokemon
John: I feel like you would like Solitaire.
*30 minutes later*
Michael: Man! I hate Solitaire!
John: Well what do you expect from a game invented for the lonely?
Michael:...JOY?!
ICarly reference? If so, nice! 😂
John: *touches the pokeball a little to start rival battle* Squirtle: IMA BOUT TO END THIS MANS WHOLE CARRRRRERRRRRR
mikeys lack of gaming knowledge is hillarious, even the old school games
When you hear "Stay golden, Ponyboy." and you have flashbacks to middle school.
I love this duo so much. They are so different, but so entertaining.
When there are more people saying ‘second’ than first
14:08 and 14:11 john lucked out in the video where he needs to not find shinies
When u are faster than mandjtv
Shiny Bulbasaur: *Exists*
John: "Git the-What!? This is impossible!!"
Shiny Squirtle: *Exists*
John: "OBUDDUBUDTA!!!!"
Me: *Leaves like*
John: HI, I'M SQUIRTLE
Mike: AND I'M BULBASAUR
What’s crazier: the fact that the catching tutorial is the last shiny, the starter for PokeMan is the first shiny, or the second to last round has BOTH STARTERS as shinies for PokeMan?
I think it’s both starters. That’s insane. Imagine a play through with that.
The irony that I found a shiny Wartortle in a Dynamax Adventure while watching this video.
I think you should do just encounters next time, seeing shiny pokemon in trainer/gym battles shouldn't count, see how far you both can get! :)
14:09 Invitation to Party for Shinies
14:12: first pokemon
Actual points
John 3
Michael 4
So technically michael wins
14:06 the best momment of the vod
I have played through firered multiple times without encountering a shiny the entire playthrough and 1 time I tried to shiny hunt squirtle in firered and it took almost 10000 resets it was ridiculous
14:02 is the best part of the video and I haven’t even seen the rest
I feel like John is a genwunner he keeps talking about gen 1
He gives chances to other gens and one of his favorite pokemon is gen 4 so no he's not a genwunner just a gen 1 fan
@@chendror872 I just said he feels like one. I am not accusing him of being one.
I started with Pokemon Yellow and collecting the Fossil TCG set, but my favorite game is Pokemon Platinum!
@@ReidZer0 I know I didn't say you did
21:00 perfectly matched frustrated scream
I literally would’ve never ever lost in my entire life so far because I have never caught even one shiny Pokémon
I love how John loses the ability to talk when both starters in the rival battle were shiny!! 😂😂
I caught my first ever shiny today!! And Im so happy
I feel a good version to this challenge is whoever can make it to Brock or misty first, but only the person who saw the shiny resets, and the other person continues on with their file
So, the chances of encountering a Shiny here is 1%.
1% does not equal 100%.
Therefor 1% equals 50%.
....
There's gonna be a lot of shinies here.
John’s reactions to Mikey saying he’s never played Minesweeper or Solitaire. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Mine sweaper was annoying as hard to play
Solitaire omg mikey living under a rock
Learn common card games oksy
John when trying to find shinies: *Fails miserably*
John when he's not trying to find shinies: 14:06
That intro killed me, holy crap Mikey. 🤣😂🤣
Title: "If you find a shiny, you lose"
Me, who has never encountered a shiny in FRLG: "Finally a worthy opponent. Our battle will be legendary..."
14:07 😂😂😂😂
8:00 GUUUUURL 🤣🤣🤣🤣
8:19 ahh yes that book everyone eventually reads in shcool
Mikey bulbasaur: misses attack
Mikey: A FOOLISH MISCALCULATION!!
This is actually a really funny idea for an actual "competitive" playthrough. Just like how your Black & White Metronome Nuzlockes were scored by death points where the loser was the one with the most points at the end of the game, you could use the same idea here except the loser is the one who finds the most shinies by the end of the game. I'd TOTALLY watch that playthrough. It could lead to some hilarious reactions.
*shiny bulbasaur appears:
ghtfbh WHAT, THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE
*shiny squirtle appears
*proceeds to have a stroke
edit: 14:09
Mikey is not taking lmao at 0:06
All the “strats” mike said increases shiny chances
I love how lucky they are getting shiny's so easily it probably hurts a lil having to restart 😂