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Shrek 5 Is Coming! So Why Are People Complaining?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ก.ค. 2024
- A few days ago we got the announcement that Shrek was officially getting a fish instalment aptly titled Shrek 5. Set to release 16 years after the previous instalment you’d think that of all the criticism of late for sequels, this would be barred considering it’s been so long. But nope, people love to complain, and I love to complain about people complaining. So here I am airing my frustrations as to the internet’s echo chamber saying that “no one wants a sequel”. Spoiler alert you’re wrong and here’s an extensive list as to why. Get hyped. Enjoy.
I was all for Shrek 5 after Puss in Boots The Last Wish, but after Kung Fu Panda 4 and that fuckass Megamind sequal I'm concerned now
Kung Fu Panda 4 was good
People don't hate sequels, they just hate them when they're done "badly".
To be fair megamind 2 wasn’t made by the movie studio it was made by dreamworks tv department but yeah I agree I was hyped for shrek 5 after last wish but the fact that crew isn’t working on shrek 5 and kung fu panda 4 does make me a little worried but I’m still decently excited
@@RJH755 wonder if Aquafina is going to show up in Shrek 5🤔🥱
Honestly I prefer the stories to end and stay ended. Having a series that goes on forever and forever will make it hard to stay with the series as it will start deteriorating overtime until it's cancelled.
Biggest case in point: *_SpongeBob._*
I just really hope they wont damaged it like Megamind 2 and they will show proper legacy as in Puss in boots 2.I really hope
There was a Megamind 2? awww :(
@@stuartdenton8537 yes,it is but for me Megamind 2 will be always Button of doom.
Megamind 2 was made by Dreamwork's Television Department. I'd say to be worried to see if Shrek 5 will get damaged like how Kung Fu Panda 4 did.
“Sequel fatigue is a myth.”
- Also this guy: KFP 4 is a masterpiece.
As much as I’m looking forward to Shrek 5, I can’t help but feel cautious about labeling it as the masterpiece we hope it will be. Sequel fatigue is definitely not a myth, and the Ice Age series is a perfect example of that. The first film was a delightful gem, blending fun with a surprisingly accurate portrayal of its setting. However, as the sequels rolled out, they often opted for loud, slapstick comedy rather than meaningful storytelling.
While it’s true that Ice Age wasn’t made by DreamWorks, it highlights a reality that’s worth considering: not every sequel hits the mark. Despite what you say, I don’t think KFP 4 stands up either. Much like the Ice Age sequels, it prioritizes humor and gags over deep, emotional narratives and features a villain that feels pretty forgettable with a flimsy backstory.
And let’s not forget, the creative minds behind Puss in Boots: The Last Wish won’t be at the helm for Shrek 5. That’s a significant factor to keep in mind. So while I’m genuinely excited for this new installment, I think it’s prudent not to get too carried away with our expectations. As a huge fan of Shrek, I want it to shine, but I also know that great writing is essential!
I don't have sequel fatigue, but Shrek 3 deserved better and I wasn't a fan of Shrek 4. They'd have to have a really amazing story since Shrek 2 is my favorite.
Weird I hate Shrek 2 and 3 but I like Shrek 1 and 4.
@@gamerhero9559 My personal ranking is 2, 3, 1, 4.
@@OpticalSorcerer
Mine is 2, 4, 1, and 3. I still like shrek 3, I definitely think people are too hard on it, but personally it just wasn’t as memorable compared to the others. (Also it’s the only one that doesn’t start with the book opening, which is just a sin)
@@dezs.5202Same here, dude. Same here
The reason I’m wasn’t looking forward to it initially is because I am a rare shrek 4 fan and I truly think it was the best ending to the story. However I will say I did really enjoy last wish, so I’m feeling more positive about it now than I first was when it was rumored several years ago.
The problem is that forever after was suppose to be the endding. Bringing it back is genuine milking
Maybe, but it's still profitable. "Kung Fu Panda 4" surpassed "Puss in Boots: The Last Wish" at the box office.
There were going to be 5 originally, we were supposed to meet Shreks parents but they canned it
I don't know how well you could integrate Shrek jokes now since a lot of modern media seem to be leaning more towards being respectful of one another, and the franchise likes to poke fun at the classic fairytale tropes.
From what I heard the team that worked on Puss in Boots 2 is working on Shrek 5, and that gives me hope.
Cause after the mismanagement of Megamind and Kung Fu Panda 4, if they have the right people working on the movie and care about the IP, then you’ll make money. A lot of sequels just haven’t done that, assuming that the novelty of “nostalgia” with make them money no matter what.
The only reason I can be open to sequels like Frozen 3, Toy Story 5, etc, is that it’s the franchise’s chance to FIX things. You can’t look at how much money it made, because how it made people feel after wasn’t good. People weren’t happy by the writing and didn’t care about the IP. If they’re making a new movie for that franchise, I see it as their way to course correct.
I respect most of your arguments, but I've got a couple of major disagreements. Sequels making big numbers opening weekend isn't proof that they're good, but proof that people loved the first one and are buying tickets for the second based on the good will of the first. You list Finding Dory doing better than Nemo, despite being objectively worse (I hate it). Look at all the money people spent on the Disney live action remakes only to be given an inferior product. It's the same mechanism.
I've also gotta point out that Dune 2 is the second part of a multi-film story, it's not a sequel and therefore doesn't count. It's like calling The Two Towers the sequel to The Fellowship of The Ring, when it's one single LOTR story in three parts.
I do genuinely feel the sequel fatigue. I heard about Shrek 5 and just sighed. Some of the new ideas have flopped as you've rightly pointed out, so they've had to resort to a worn out IP hoping to bring in money. I see sequels as an admission of failure, rather than a positive action of choosing more of something people like. People are gonna see Shrek 5 for the novelty, like they went to see Jurassic World. It'll probably follow the same formula of painting its own homage to the first Shrek. I bet 100 internet points the film involves some kind of flashback to scenes from the first film. "You remember when Shrek lived alone in the swamp? Here it is again. We're gonna tell you the story of how Fiona got cursed, so we can revisit her changing form again. Let's show you how annoying Donkey was when he first started speaking" Your same out-of-ideas writing, but just putting the final nail in a franchise that should've stayed as two films.
Well, you gotta wonder what would be the plan for a fifth film. Plus, what would be the point besides getting more Shrek money?
Honestly Shrek was my childhood movie and over the years it still holds a place in my heart. But honestly a 5th Shrek film I'm mixed on it whether there should be another film or not. Don't get me wrong I'm very excited just concenrened on writing, story, characters and other things. I do not want it to just be a way to gain more money for no reason. But maybe being a bit too worried especially with some movies nowadays but it still wont have my hyped for a new Shrek film.
Cause humanity will always look on the bad side of things, and never take the time to appreciate all the good things they have, simple as that
It's human nature to focus on the bad. It keeps us safer. We're primed to respond to negative stimuli more
Also you can't be let down by something if you don't have high hopes I guess
Yeah I’m skeptical with the writer that they got to helm Shrek 5 but I’m still whiling to give him the benefit of the doubt and hopefully he delivers on a solid enough script because keep in mind that the writers of Puss In Boots The Last Wish had mostly written bombs before like Little Giants, Bushwhacked, Snow Dogs, The Lego Ninjago Movie and Illuminations The Grinch.
I love anything Shrek related so it'll be a good movie either way
Because people will complain about ANYTHING these days
I for one am very excited to see Shrek 5. There’s no way that Dreamworks will screw up this movie I have faith in them.
As for the plot, I think it should be about Shrek reconciling with his parents, especially his father with what he told Arthur. I mean what else can he do? He found friends, has a loving wife and wonderful kids, and he’s able to comprehend how much it all means to him. At this point there’s no where else to go for him but back. There are times where the past needs to be revisited to keep going forward so this may be just that. Plus, how cool would it be to see Shrek’s origin story? Or baby Shrek of all things?
Inside out 2 is both anticipated nostalgia, builds upon the first, deep, funny and very smart much like Shrek 2 so people go see it multiple times. Kung fu Panda for instance doesn't build upon the base that was left, has worse production values, loses it's core cast and plays mostly on just nostalgia and by reducing the inflation it would have made about 300M. That was also a movie I hoped that would break the Billion dollar mark if it was done as good as the 2nd movie or as amazingly as Puss in boots TLW. Shrek now is a mystery which I can't predict it's direction since it can either be a masterpiece or be rather bland with half forced humor and no agency(also like despicable me 4) so I'm just cautiously optimistic.
This is probably an unpopular opinion but I PRAY they keep up the old animation style and don't completely revamp it like they did with Puss in boots 2. Don't get me wrong, it absolutely worked for that movie, but the often bright and flashy visuals and polished models just... wouldn't fit with the main shrek franchise. The visuals shrek had worked perfectly for its setting, and imo they still hold up extremely well today. Rewatching the old movies and then seeing the new one in a different style would be very jarring
It's simple: if you give people a good story, they'll go see it.
I love Shrek, I love first one, I love second one even more. I even enjoyed forever. But I don't want the next Shrek movie. Why? Because I don't want it to be turned into Ice Age. I don't want million sequels to tell me about their children and grandchildren and great grandchildren. And I bet you that's what's gonna happen to this franchise,like it did with dozens before this one.
I bet they are going to make Shrek's children teenagers, i bet Shrek will become overprotective father, especially to his daughter. I bet they'll be some romance drama with kids. And I bet it will not be what Shrek is supposed to be, and instead will turn into one more Shrek the third.
All stories must have an end, otherwise they become boring. Otherwise they become fast and furious franchise
What made Shrek the Third fail so hard?
Probably prince charming or arthur and that it didn't have a book opening some probably also didn't like the dad death
My Ideal Cast for the older version of Fergus, Farkle and Felicia for Shrek 5:
Patrick Gibson *Shadow and Bone* as Fergus
Timothée Chalamet *Wonka* as Farkle
Rachel Zegler *The Hunger Games: The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes* as Felicia
Not that I don't like sequels, prequels and beyond for some movies but some just feel beaten to death and at the end of the day either the movie is going to suck or be decent (depending on the viewer ofc) I just feel like new idea and movies shouldn't be shoved to side or not given at least a decent chance just because their not a name but if I'm totally honest I'm way more excited for Zootopia 2 then another Shrek or others that going beyond the 4 movie meter mark!
I’m looking forward to it
I’m optimistic.
Because it’s pointless as Toy Story 5. Period.
Well, who knows? They could make it good. And Toy Story 5 could also be good too. I mean, it's being directed by Andrew Stanton, the guy who directed WALL-E and Finding Nemo, and Pete Docter said it would have surprising details and some stuff we hadn't seen before.
I wanna see it. Shrek was Part of my Childhood
I think it's because they are afraid it's not going to be good.
I agree with a lot of your views. We have seen how animated studios have lost a LOT of money in recent years. Original movies have little to no chance at being a box office success if they do not get great reviews or anything and even then several movies struggle. The Bad Guys grossed 250 and TMNT: Mutant Mayhem grossed 180. Both movies were commercial success based on their budget but still they received great critic reviews but even then people did not go to watch them and they deserved more.
Then of course we have disney and pixar with strange world, wish and lightyear. turning red. Even DreamWorks faced one of their biggest flops with Ruby Gillman which I haven't watched but I heard its decent and underrated. Pixar turned to Inside Out and the sequel became the Highest Grossing Pixar Movie !!!! Disney has turned to Zootopia, Moana, Frozen and Lion King and atleast "some" of these movies deserved sequels. Its no wonder that franchises will be revived because people do not go to watch original movies even if they are critically acclaimed. A lot of people overlook the financial apparatus of filmmaking.
DreamWorks turned to Kung Fu Panda and it was originally planned to have 6 films. I am one of the defenders of KFP4 and it did break a lot of DreamWorks records. But Shrek is on a whole new level with box office gross. Then Shrek 4 was a great movie but several people want Shrek 5. I am excited but cautiously optimistic.
The screenwriter and director have decent records. Walter Dohrn was head of story of Shrek 4 and actor of Rumpel. He directed Trolls World Tour and Band Together. Casual DreamWorks fans say that the Trolls movies are just silly candy coloured movies but they have themes and engaging characters. I belong in the minority because I think the original Trolls movie was better than 2 and 3 but still they are pretty good movies.
I’m a Shrek lover, so I’m on board! Hopefully it isn’t “poison-potioned” like Megamind 2 was.
"Megamind vs. The Doom Syndicate" was created by its TV production branch, not the main film studio.
Welcome to my world.
No such thing as Sequel fatigue I've been loving the sequels that been coming out and also the box office has proven that others have too im excited about shrek 5 I really hope it's on par with the first 2 films they were absolute classics
All I'm hoping for is good writing ans that they dont use the extremely obvious animated style that has been popping up like in Puss in Boots Last Wish and Wish. I love that you can believe in the previous shrek movies that they are real (a little uncanny valley but real nonetheless)
I don’t know why people are talking about the megamind sequel here, that wasn’t and never was gonna be a theatrical release. Megamind 2 is to the first movie as Mulan 2 was to the first movie
They’re not complaining they like this 1 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
People are afraid that this will ruin Shrek when they completely forget that they already did since the 3rd instalment.
I'm nervous I'm a huge fan of all four Shrek movies, i think they were all really good. But I am really nervous for Shrek 5, the recent sequels of movies have been very mid. But I do have some hope for Shrek, all it's other sequels were good so maybe Shrek 5 can be good?
I love Shrek 1 and 2
The Shrek franchise kind of wound up becoming the very thing it originally satirized.
I’m at so excited for Shrek fight
Idk, just a hello.
If the movie has been in development for more than ten years it’s got to be good.
Has everyone forgot how much nostalgia matters?
Kung Fu Panda 4 took a while to come out, and look at how that turned out
congrats on 100k subscribers, ik it's premature but still
Surprise, you haven’t watched the trolls movies because of all the hype of the third movie was
Trolls should be stand-alone.
It can be good, it can be bad. The Fans will only know, when the Film will debut.
Spider-Man across the spider verse good sequel
I am excited for this movie.
@@katiaazizi same
Excited but worried at the same time. However, I have lots of ideas to i would love to see for Shrek. A Lot.
@@Oscar95451 Oh ok makes sense, same here I’m also a bit worried about it.
@@katiaazizi Okay, I had my own list of things that i would love to see for Shrek 5. Considering that i love Shrek 1 and 2, but i despise Shrek the Third and found Shrek Forever After to be in middle. You might see Shrek 1 and 2 in my list of my Top 10 Favorite Non-Disney Animated Films and my Top 10 Favorite animated sequels.
List of things that i would love to see in Shrek 5:
* One of the missing point of Shrek 5 is Andrew Adamson himself, He is the formula on why Shrek and Shrek 2 were so beloved and successful in the first place. I am hestistant on Walt Dohrn directing considering that he did direct the childish Trolls movies.
* I think it will be treated as a Despicable Me movies more than Shrek since Chris Meledandri and the Minion 2 co-director was involved.
* the Book Opening Scene
* Smash Mouth's All-Stars
* There's a lot of materials of this movie to parody like Avengers, Frozen, Tangled and others.
* Shrek's missing father
* A villain who is not Steamboat Willie, but someone from Fiona's backstory or Shrek's backstory
* Kitty Softpaw meeting Shrek, Fiona and Donkey for the first time
* Kitty and Fiona teaming up
* It can either stick to The Last Wish animation style or with the original animation.
* I am concerned due to the fact that the writers of The Boss Baby movies is writing the script.
* I want to see Shrek doing a parody of an Avengers scene where Hulk smashed Loki.
@@Oscar95451 Oh ok. That makes sense.
I’m should’ve say do not watch trolls and those boss baby movies suck as well. I hotel Transylvania three is OK but it’s pretty bad.
So ur telling me that u just showing inside out 2 and despicable Me 4 in this vid which r both good doing well and then this is called complaining and we don’t want sequels then u say it weird complaining and that u so I ant make ur mind up guessing games and that I again honestly I like u but still yeh obviously y not have sequels omg I give and pls let me 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
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Because it’s a terrible idea
Because 3 and 4 were terrible
How was 4 terrible???
No because the story felt finished
Nah, just 3 (from memory ofc)
I know it should be a good thing, but like
WHY?!
Did we NEED a Shrek 5 to begin with? Lmao thats what we should be asking. Not whether or not it could be GOOD. lmao
Maybe if we were still in that Puss n Boots Last Wish high, I would agree with you. 🫠
Well, to be entirely fair, no sequels really need to exist. They don't absolutely HAVE to happen. Like, even some of the most beloved films in the world don't have sequels.
It's simple: if you give people a good story, they'll go see it.
I just hope that Shrek 5 will be as good as the first two Shrek films and The Last Wish ❤.