Max: “David hit chloe!” Joyce: “oh that’s fine.” Max: “he also has security cameras everywhere, including this very house!” Joyce: “WHAT?! I WILL SHUT THAT DOWN!!!”
@@insanity2896 Surface level: Joyce is such a sweet Mom and Chloe's unfair to her. After looking deeper: Man Chloe had it rough and Joyce is such a bad Mom.
I don't know... Siding with Chloe seems like the more rational choice. While David does have some good intentions, his actions can get quite out of hand.
+Timon Wood On the other side, Chloe is inmature and a brat about the situation, even if she has a point. Seriously, I sided with her at the beginning, but after watching the entire scene play out, I had to rewind and side with David because she kept being an asshole to him AND Joyce.
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When David talked to Max at school, he was actually being nice. He does care about his family and students, but he tends to jump into rash decisions without getting the whole picture so his approach is abit over-the-line sometimes, like accusing Kate of using drugs (Kate's file in David's laptop in the garage, which leads to David harassing Kate in part 1 (or was it part 2?) ) All in all, i think siding David is a more rational choice, that is when one had connected the dots.
As much as as an asshole he seems, I feel really bad for David. He's a veteran who suffers from PTSD and just wants to be with Chloe and Joyce. He loves Chloe and just wants to protect her. If he gets kicked out of the house he looks actually depressed, crying even that he can't be with his family. He acts over the top because he's not used to regular life. I really like Chloe, probably one of my favourite characters in the game, but she can be immature and irrational sometimes. I feel like that a lot of Chloe aimed decisions will have a bad effect on everyone, including Chloe, if you side with Chloe. The game is basically asking, "How much will you do for your friend? Even if it does make them unhappy for a short time?" But hell even then, I feel like that even veterans can keep their cool to a certain point. Considering how David already hit Chloe (If you didn't intervene in episode one) and threatened to hit her in episode three. Another thing that really pissed me off about him is the fact that David told a homeless woman "To get a job". I know that has nothing to do with Chloe, but people who do that really piss me off. Personally, I sided with Chloe, although David does have good intentions for his family, I feel like that he's just sort of hurting them in the process. It really annoys me that people give him slack though just for being shown as an antagonist. I don't actually think that David is a bad or evil man, especially when compared to actual antagonists like Nathan Prescott but people like to say he's good just because he's "bad". I feel like the line "Is that your Rachel Amber halloween costume?" is even a bit asshole-y. Considering how is he a head security guard makes a joke about a missing girl that he probably should be at least trying to find.
Uh yeah have you ever seen (SPOILERS) the way he reacted in episode 5 when you tell him the truth about Chloe's death. If that's not enough to tell you that he loves then I don't know what is. The slap was still wrong though.
I was torn on this choice for a while. I initially sided with Chloe because David needed to be called out on his shit, but then I saw that it broke up Joyce and David. I couldn't do that to the family. I had to rewind and side with David. Chloe is right too, but she was being a brat about the whole thing. David is trying to do the right thing, but the way he approaches the situation is entirely wrong. He's not 100% an asshole, but he does legitimately care about his family and the students' well being. Chloe will be pissed, but she'll get over it.
ArtofDestiny Well I don't know, I think Chloe may feel like everyone was against her or being gang up on her. Especially if you contradict her most of the time with the choices.
The fact the chloe knows about the rewind power means she knows you decided to change it after seeing both sides, thats semi why she feels youre against her too, but it's really her dad dying that she still hasnt come to terms with
I really hated this decision because there's so much to think about for both sides. David spies on people that looks creepy but... Isn't that the same thing we do throughout the entire game? We do it for our own motives, abusing a time rewind powee. And so does David. But putting aside that, David is really confrontational about everything. Just by looking at this scene alone, the way he talks to Max first... And him saying that "this is now my family" he just seems so possessive.
I think His Ptsd Was speaking he was a War veteran and He needed Comfort not Telling what he Did was right he Had good intention but was going the wrong way like you could see if I am right when he slapped Chloe he also hesitated but think about it chloe Is a Little immature and Does Things Her way even if it hurts another person. So in my opinion I would side with David I wish there was a Third one Which was just be quiet that would have been more appropriate
I am surprised with how many people dislike Chloe. Just put yourself in her place for a second: you have the perfect life and family until your dad dies in a car accident, and you get forced to live with a stepfather who does nothing but to boss you around by yelling and spying like if you were a criminal, while your mum, the last support you have is by his side. Chloe acts the way she does because she feels trapped and alone. Not to mention that while at the end of the game I did end up understanding and liking David, that does not excuse his behavior at all, threating students, spying them and even his own family, slapping his stepdaughter, insulting and dissrespecting everyone who disagrees with him and threating anyone he suspects from. He might have good intentions, but that doesn't give him the right to cross any limit, morality, control and simply do whatever he wants without anyone's consent. Not to mention the disrespectful way he talks to his own family when they just disagree with him, he just walks into the room and starts to bully his own daughter and her bestie and in front of his wife, do you find that normal? Of course I will always side with Chloe on this one. And I am amazed how many people excuse David's behaviour and actions because he was trying to do the right thing while Chloe gets all the hate. There's a huge different people, Chloe is a teenager, of course she is going to act stupid lots of times, David on the other hand is an adult that worked in the military, he should know better than act like this. And Chloe is being a brat? Just because he was told to calm down, David insulted Max, his daughter and his wife, of course that's totally mature.
Ikr? In fact in episode 5, he outright stated he can't even excuse his own behaviour. How can you excuse someone's behaviour if they can't even excuse it themselves?
BtS fixed Chloe's (toxic) character somehow but it still doesn't excuse her actions in LiS. David is a PTSD solider, so you can't use the "Chloe is the only damaged person" excuse. Neither of them is right, but David is the lesser evil compared with Chloe. Chloe doesn't cares about anyone else other than herself. She doesn't even care about her mother, someone who feels responsible for her father's death, and even though she's also destroyed she doesn't show it as much as Chloe does and also tries to move on with her life (unlike Chloe who completely destroyed her own life). But in this scene, Chloe takes that "bit of happiness" from her in a really immature way (she IS justified, but the way she and Max teared into David is worse than just being quiet about it). At least David cares about his family. Sure, he might be a paranoid person and rude when accused of something, but he tries his best to keep the people he cares about safe.
I don't hate her as a person, and I know she has some good in her, but just like we can't excuse David for his behavior, we shouldn't excuse Chloe's either. That's just unfair. David is impulsive and rude, but Chloe is self centered and entitled. They both had room for improvement in the beginning. Chloe is not a child, she's around 19 years old. She's old enough to take responsibility for her own actions. And the way she treats Max (especially in the first 2 or 3 episodes) was really shitty. I'd be mad too if my best friend ignored me for 5 years too, so I'd understand why Chloe would be bitter towards Max, but throwing Max under the bus by blaming her for the weed that she never touched just so she could get out of trouble was incredibly selfish and immature. Then she either gets mad at Max when she truthfully tells David that it isn't her's, or she don't feel bad or say sorry to Max when she does take the blame and is completely oblivious to how it might affect Max in the future. Chloe herself even admits in the end of the game that she had been selfish and unfair towards Max.
I don't know. If you side with David, Max completely lies about not having any proof of the surveillance. And what he was doing WAS creepy, regardless of whether he has PTSD or not. I think Chloe is a brat, but something does need to be changed in that family, because David isn't a saint either. And I just think that step fathers shouldn't be as in control of the child as David is trying to be, especially when he's living in Joyce's house and not the other way round.
Nothing changes, though. You just break the family and leave Joyce to suffer from another loss. Also, Chloe was in drugs (and a spoiled brat) and David only wanted to help her (in his messed/weird way).
lorenzo romano It seems that way from the game's perspective, but Max is just an 18 year old kid who exposed the fact that David was spying on her daughter. I know that he wanted to help her, and I really like him by the end of the game, but there's no excuse for doing that, no matter what age she is. I know that universe didn't really end up mattering in the end, but when you get to the tornado while the storm is going on, I told Joyce to make up her own mind. And David is still with Joyce at the end of the game if you choose to save the Bay.
+Charizarzar I didn't understand the first paragraph ("what age *she* is"). As for the second, they are together because Max "returned" to the original timeline, erasing everything the player did (for example, I couldn't change Joyce's mind about him, but they are still together in the ending).
lorenzo romano Well I've seen people go on about how it wasn't creepy because Chloe was a legal age. It's still fuckin creepy to put cameras in someone's bedroom.
I don't blame Max for siding with Chloe if chosen. After what David said sitting at the chair "It's my family now." Nope. That doesn't sit right with me. Fuck that.
letmusiclivee i think david is actually a good guy. the game demonizes him so much that i would expect he will end up saving blackwell. If you've seen episode 4 you would know what i mean.. not everyone is how they seem
This is kinda one of those after you beat the game kinda choices, because during a first playthrough you're supposed to think David is a bad guy. But after the end you start to notice that David is actually a good guy
I find Chloe troublesome to deal with. However despite his PTSD and good intentions it was so hard to side with David. Even if you care about people you just can't go around stalking them and trying to control their lives. Plus Max wasn't necessarily wrong when she said David doesn't respect anyone else, he sort of just does his own thing without anyone one's consent because he thinks he always everything and what's best for others.
Exactly, it surprises me that people use that as an excuse to side with him. It would be a creepy thing to do no matter what age someone was, but as a grown man David should've known better. And having cameras in Chloe's room is just too weird.
I hate this choice because, to be fair it's not really Max's business. This is a personal issue and in real life I would have just kept out of it. As for the choices, I sided with David because i'd rather piss off Chloe than split up a family
David has files of some students, installed spy camera's in his wife's home, has hit his step daughter and has harassed some students. If Max chooses to take the photo of David and Kate in ep 1,she has solid evidence he does bully some students. What I am trying to say is, how can he possible look like the good guy, atleast in Joyces eyes? What really ticks me off is that: David doesn't try to defend or excuse his actions, Joyce just blindly believes Max about the files and the conflict has nothing to do with Max. The three are supposed to figure it out.
Before I found out the truth, I used to think David was an accomplice for Nathan due to the surveillance tech & student files Max found in the garage for targeting the students as prey, as well for the darkroom with all that canned food for off grid survival.
As much as I appreciate that David was trying to get to the Bottom of Everything happening in Arcadia Bay, he was being too careless and uncaring of who he hurt in the process. He cares about Joyce and Chloe just has a hard time showing it. He treats everyone like a criminal even if they have done nothing wrong, like bullying Kate Marsh when she was going through hell and having thoughts of suicide because someone drugged her and did things to her. No one helped her except for Max and that's what led to her suicide attempt. another example is him hiding surveillance cameras all around Joyce's house or petitioning to have surveillance cameras put everywhere all over Blackwell Academy. He actually told Nathan to tell someone that Rachel was pushing drugs on campus when she wasn't to get her in trouble so she'd be out of Chloe's life because she thought Rachel was a bad influence on Chloe. That's illegal right there so David is out of control. That's why I side with Chloe in this argument. He was just acting like he was at War the entire time and that everyone was an enemy and a criminal
I will never side with Chloe on this, she's very immature. She was literally going the junkyard to buy drugs that David warned her was a dangerous location to be around, then on top of that stole a gun. David may get over the top but Chloe on purposely presses his buttons. He wants to believe Chloe is better then that but all she wants to do is piss him off out of rebellious spite.
To be fair David did fire the first shot... at Max. How is that called for? Also he was spying on Rachel, Kate, and Max... and if you side with Chloe and cause Joyce to kick him out of the house... he blames everything on Max as if his spying activities on various people is all Max's fault. How is it all her or Chloe's fault? If Max hurt David's family... she would have done it a long time ago.
I really don't get why people keep calling Chloe a brat. I'll always side with Chloe. I hated that she blamed Max for leaving but I kinda understand how she feels, but that's no reason to be pissed at her. I do get David's point, but spying on everyone just isn't the way to go about helping. The reason why Chloe is acting out so much is because Chloe left right her died and she felt like Max didn't love her and had abandoned her even though she really didn't. Then she met a beautiful girl, fell in love with her and then Rachel goes missing. Then Chloe finds out that she's dead. How would y'all react? She's been through a lot. Chloe feels like she's unloved when in fact, she's very loved. Her Mom loves her, her Dad loved her & so does David. And her best friend Max is in love with her. What Chloe goes through is something that nobody should ever have to go through. She looses her Dad, her best friend who she later develops romantic feelings for (Depending on the choices that you make, even though Chloe probably had feelings for Max even before Max had moved away, that's probably why Chloe had dared Max to kiss her), her Mom remarries a paranoid war veteran (I have nothing against war veterans, they have been through enough horrible shit as it is), she meets a beautiful girl, Rachel, and falls for her & then later finds out that was sleeping with a man & then later finds out that Rachel is dead. Chloe has a right to be angry, but she shouldn't take her pain out on everyone else either, but I understand why she acts the way she does because of what she's been through. I said this before and I'll say, what would y'all do in her place?
I love how so many people will go on with hate on David for spying while we as a player at this point has been breaking into the school, look into everyones private computers and e-mails and manipulate people with time travel into taking the infos out if them and use it later to make them like us. He was obsessive freak, yes, but he wanted to know what happened to Rachel just like us. Weird and very dangerous things were happening at Blackwell at this point of the time, David knew that. He wanted good, he just made mistakes along the way. Still that doesn't make us much better considering what Max and Chloe actually do. I think that David was aware that somebody dangerous were in Arcadia Bay and it's partly the reason he installed the cameras in all around the house (which he should absolutely not do without Joyce and Chloe knowing but again, he was paranoid about their safety).
he was also a hypocrite he watched everyone except Nathan what Max and Chloe did was to arrest someone bad except to swim in the pool while David is just paranoid about everything
I mean David took the first shot at Max soooooo yeah I would side with Chloe as she has been through a lot and has the right to act this way. Whilst David has good intentions he just goes around and insults everybody, even his own family, when they disagree with him and let's not forget how fucked up the cameras are in his stepdaughter's room is. Plus at the end of the game you see a real change in Chloe so I don't get all this hate to chloe; she's one of my favourite video game characters
Tough one. I always side with Chloe, except with Kate's call, and this. David is a good man, he deserves to stay in his home, and this is the better option for Joyce as well
First off, I know David does redeem himself at the end, I forgive him and I don't hate him. Never did hate him. Like Max, I respect his service and I appreciate him saving her and taking down Jeffershit. Plus, I do think he was trying to do what was right by Chloe and Joyce. I am glad for Chloe's sake he survived and I love seeing him now have a loving relationship with Chloe and Max too in LiS 2. I save Chloe for his and Joyce's sakes. Who am I to put those two through that kind of pain of burying their kid? Joyce would rather die than lose her daughter, any loving parent would. In dead Chloe ending he loses both of them b/c Joyce divorces him. At least in Bae he has a mended relationship with Chloe and even Max too. However, back to why I side with Chloe, Davie went about the process the wrong way. Prior to saving Max he crossed so many lines. Hitting Chloe and saying condescending remarks to her, going after Max, picking on Kate instead of helping her, secret surveillance system, mistreating the homeless lady, sexist remarks against women/girls, he even calls Joyce a punk and says "screw you" to her. Chloe has been going through Hell for 5 years and a lot of that Hell is David's meanness towards her and Joyce being too in denial to do anything about his mean and abusive behavior. Between that and how awful he's been to Max it just doesn't make sense to take his side. He's not even that grateful if you do; "This is my man cave, no girls allowed" (note the sexism). Last thing I want to do is hurt Chloe even more by defending her abusive step parent against her. It was time for Joyce to snap out of her denial and put him in his place. He may have PTSD and other issues from being in a war and losing Phil but that is not an excuse for his behavior. I do actually pick the "That's your choice" option when talking to Joyce in Episode 5 because her priorities have to be rebuilding her relationship with her daughter, her flesh and blood, her baby. I'm not saying she couldn't eventually take David back, like I said I do believe David earned forgiveness and redemption, but for now her daughter and her own well being too have to come first.
The reason i sided with david is the way he interrogate kate make me more suspicious of what is going on in blackwell. It's simple video about kate was drunk and make up with boys, but the way he interrogate to kate is showing that david is more suspicious about vortex club than kate's scandal video, and i think vortex club is something like hideous criminal group but covered with popular reputation. And then after seeing binders and wells' computer, i was thinking that david is probably have guessed about nathan but he didnt have much evidences, cos evidence is sure way to get criminal into jail. So i sided with david, in case when chloe is in danger, david is the one saving her. But i never thought he is saving max and chloe is still killed and it was disappointing. About chloe, well i understand about intruding privacy and human rights all that, but that's just immature when is dealing to the adult, especially if the adult is know so much about being security guard, law, and especially soldier. While chloe is have reputation of rebel, mischievollus, and police records, i hardly side with chloe if she wants to get treated fairly. No matter how her dark past is, she is just fight losing battle.
I chose to blame David, understandably I don’t want to break their family up but I doubted Joyce would just give up on him in the end anyway. David SERIOUSLY needs to learn to stop poking his nose where it doesn’t belong and if tough love from his family is what he needs to realize that then so be it. Like everyone else says he’s not a bad guy, not at all but he needs to be taught some kind of lesson
I always sided with Chloe, but for a change, I think I want to try siding with David! I've played all the way thru episode 5 with Chloe on my side. Now I want to try it with David! (sorry for grammar, I've had a few 🥃 with family!)
Thanks for uploading this! I haven't been able to see what happens when you side with David until now! I'd still side with Chloe, personally. There's more going against David than for him, even though I think he's got the right intentions.
"Side with Chloe" really? Man, David is right: Chloe is immature, dramatic and a bad influence to Max. She needs to grow up a little, her dad made everything easy for her until he died. And now, that he is not there to help her, she acts like a child... For real?
I re-watched this scene just to see what people were talking about. There's a lot of people saying that David was raising his hand up like he was about to slap Chloe again. He wasn't, he was simply just talking with his hands. I talk using hand gestures all the time to put emphasis on what I'm saying and to get my point across. Tired of these people over analyzing everything. David is not abusive and he does not hit Chloe on a regular basis. Him hitting her in Episode 1 was a first and last time thing.
I sided with David when I looked into the spoilers and realised his intentions were better than his previous attitude and he does soften up towards Max if you do (reconciles with her either way at the end)
David strikes me as a guy who is still having trouble adjusting to civilian life after seeing who knows what overseas. Yes his methods are unorthodox and even invasive to some, but he does it with the best of intentions. It's not like he's going around extorting people and selling their secrets to the highest bidder. Chloe is a temperamental punk, as is to be expected from teenagers. But that doesn't mean you should just sit back and let it happen. I sided with David. Maybe it's because I'm Military myself, but I can sympathize with his viewpoint. To a degree. I actually think they did a very good job with David's character overall.
I searched "Should I side with david or chloe" and didn't know what should I do because I wasn't sure because I don't wanna cause trouble and want to have david on my side, but at the same time want to be on my friend's side.
dang, you guys are really into this, whatevs, though both people have major flaws to them, david, while he cares about his family, makes stupid choices and can be a major dickhead to anybody if they disagree with him in the slightest sense, while some of you guys in the comments are siding with him cuz he cares about family, i know someone like david irl and those kind of people can be the biggest assholes you have ever met (speaking from personal experience), and chloe, can be a douche herself too, doing illegal stuff, but don't forget that she's like that mainly because her dad died, and we all saw how close she was to her dad when *spoiler alert* max goes back in time to save william, and that can change people, i knew another person who was also like that and she was a handful, there's also the fact that max is bestfriends with chloe and hates david, but then again, max is a pretty moral person, so it isn't really surprising like some of you guys think of how most people chose to side with chloe, but i guess it just comes down to our own personal way of thinking, be a moral person who does all good even for those who hurt you, or be don't be a person all about morals and do good things only for those that you care about, your call
That was maybe the hardest decision so far in the game - more than steal not steal or shoot not shoot or anything. It affects more people even directly and whon knows what later even if the town is saved and the cases closed. And David may be the only prfessional who may protect Chloe and so Max...
Ik even as pricefield, I logically should side with David because he’s right (even saved Max from the dark room) Sigh* But sorry David, Chloe is the main objective even the choice to side her is ridiculous asf
I feel that we should aide with David...why would they make us choose between them like this? Obviously we’d want to side with Chloe but if you actually use your deductive reasoning skills I believe David is the better option. And I kind of unintentionally have been going against Chloe the whole game....I didn’t step out of the closet for the joint, I didn’t shoot frank so he took the gun, and I answered Kate’s call. So I might as well go all in since I’m obviously not pro Chloe all the way.
Joyce seriously has to sort out her priorities. The dude hits your daughter and cameras are the problem? He doesn’t have the cameras in the bathroom or bedrooms anyways so it serves nothing but safety??
Well guys to all of you who just kept leaving Chloe in trouble, I wonder which of these "bffs pictures" on your Instagram profile is fake. I bet all of them.
I love Chloe and sided with her the entire game but here I just couldn’t, especially since I’ve played this game and LiS 2. He’s a good man, just severely misguided.
@@sandudelcea6707 I’m aware of that. He’s a red herring up until the end. You can see that I said made the choice I made because I already played these games.
@@simpleplanfan011 well when i will play this game, i will do an evil playthrough 1st, and then a playthrough where i make choices that the characters themselves would make at that point in the story, so in this moment, the evil choice is side with david becuz chloe gets upset and it's like max would be defending the person that slapped chloe since that would also be an evil choice.
Even now I still side with Chloe here bc of how David had treated everyone. Especially Kate. Do t get me wrong, I agree he has a good heart but he needed a time out. I love his mended relationship with Chloe in LiS 2.
I first sided with Chloe, because obviously David did breach people's privacy by keeping distinct records, and surveillance on them. However, after reading through the comments here, as well as this article here guides.gamepressure.com/lifeisstrange/guide.asp?ID=30782, and adding up all of Chloe's reasoning, and David's reasoning, I decided to opt with David. The reason being, that even though Max seems to lie for Joyce & David's sake about the surveillance, and David did hit Chloe depending on the decision you make, and David did indeed bully Kate, he did not have creepy or bad intentions with them. His army days left him overly paranoid, and he still treats daily life as a military service. He needs help readjusting into daily life, and understanding the world is not as bad as a war-zone. It's the intentions behind his reasoning that made me side with him, knowing it wasn't creepy or wrong, just misguided. Chloe does seem to get quite hurt by this decision, especially if you contradict most of her decisions, but if you help her most of the time, then even if she brings it up in Chapter 3 & 4 at times, it will be a minor slope down the track. Chloe is an emotional teenager, with random outbursts and her mindset is still a bit childish. It means that Chloe and Max will more likely not begin a dating relationship together, but will remain very close friends, especially if you sacrifice the bay over Chloe. It also depends on how the player feels about each situation, whether they like Warren more as a partner for Max, or how they want legacy of the bay to unfold, etc...
Joyce was fine. I had no problem kicking him out. Never understood the relationship in the first place. William is too good a guy for David to be the rebound. He always treated her like kinda sexist the way he talks about it too also spying on girls is wrong. And he's the type of douche to vote for trump and say things like libtard. Not taking Chloe side either. I honestly liked her wheelchair scenario better. She wasn't an annoying ungrateful brat
It’s understandable that David’s behavior is caused largely by his PTSD, but no one should EVER use that as a reason to justify abuse. There IS no justifying abuse. It is inherently wrong, always. If anyone is in an abusive relationship of any kind (parent, spouse, etc.) please try to persuade them to seek help from a professional. Show your support for them, but please know what the limits are and get out of there if things are not improving! If they constantly refuse to seek professional help, then it’s simply too late for them anyway, or they’ll help themselves too late to undo the damage they had done to you! It’s sad, but true. Abusers are especially dangerous because they can escalate into other behaviors, even if the abuse started small. I’m talking about rape (of spouse or kids), potentially lethal levels of abuse, etc. All it takes is one beer bottle thrown at just the right angle and you’re looking at the corpse of your six- year-old daughter in the living room from being hit in the temple. Just ONE second, and it’s too late to change your mind about staying with that abusive a**hole, because you’ve lost everything that mattered to you anyway. This is what happened to a friend of mine. I’m not going to sugarcoat it. This stuff can get serious fast, and it doesn’t even need to be “serious” to still end badly. Please seek help when you need it. I’m sorry I went off on a rant there, but some of the comments to this video are disturbing in that a lot of people seem to agree that the best course of action is to ENABLE the abuser simply because he has PTSD. Please don’t do that…
David was nice when I talked to him during school, that’s why I was struggling so much on who I should side with. I felt so bad for him when I sided with Chloe. To be honest Chloe gets mad so easily. She seems so sensitive about every little thinf
in the beginning, i thought David WAS the bigger dick, but as the story progressed i realized that Davids not such a bad person. i understand Max and Chloe are friends, but in this case Chloe really got on my nerves letting her mouth run off. after reading all those notes and seeing all the pics of David and Joyce and how happy they looked, i sided with David cause i didnt wanna fuck up their marriage or their family. after it was over my feelings for Chloe were neutral. part of me likes her, part of me cant stand her.
2:07 "I have to take a dump. Are you coming Max?"
LOL, what??
Chloe wants to take an emotional shit on Max in her truck
Lol ikr
The ever so slight hitch in Max's step as she process what Chloe just said, lol.
she wants Max to watch her poo, it turns Chloe.
@@surelock3221 LOL
Went I need to take a dump, I too invite my friends over.
"I have to take a dump. You coming, Max?"
Beg fucking pardon
Blazi Ken lol I had sided with Chloe so I didn't see that dialogue! But seriously, wtf?
I wish there was a choice to just stay out of it.
exactly.
Max: “David hit chloe!”
Joyce: “oh that’s fine.”
Max: “he also has security cameras everywhere, including this very house!”
Joyce: “WHAT?! I WILL SHUT THAT DOWN!!!”
LMAO!
Yes, cause security cameras are a more serious problem than abusing your child.
@@insanity2896 true, joyce knows that chloe wont let david win.
@@insanity2896 Surface level: Joyce is such a sweet Mom and Chloe's unfair to her.
After looking deeper: Man Chloe had it rough and Joyce is such a bad Mom.
@@Nerd704 ikr, and people say chloe is evil, dude she's a victim.
I just noticed David started the whole argument...
I don't know... Siding with Chloe seems like the more rational choice. While David does have some good intentions, his actions can get quite out of hand.
Timon Wood I don't want their family to tear apart.
+Timon Wood Having "Chloe" and "rational choice" in the same sentence is unironically the funniest thing I've seen today. I congratulate you, sir!
+Timon Wood On the other side, Chloe is inmature and a brat about the situation, even if she has a point. Seriously, I sided with her at the beginning, but after watching the entire scene play out, I had to rewind and side with David because she kept being an asshole to him AND Joyce.
However, David did fire the first shot... at Max. How is that called for?
@@tokiwartooth9935 Choosing *Chloe* is not a *rational choice*
How you like me now?
2:43 Chloe likes breakdancing confirmed.
😂 💀
AHAHAH
IllustriousTV xD
The way that Joyce doesn’t even say anything about David hitting Chloe rubs me the wrong way. If anyone hit my child I’d be FREAKING OUT.
Right.
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I was dumb lost the login password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me.
When David talked to Max at school, he was actually being nice. He does care about his family and students, but he tends to jump into rash decisions without getting the whole picture so his approach is abit over-the-line sometimes, like accusing Kate of using drugs (Kate's file in David's laptop in the garage, which leads to David harassing Kate in part 1 (or was it part 2?) )
All in all, i think siding David is a more rational choice, that is when one had connected the dots.
Pham Viet Long But it was drugs. Kate got drugged. So he was technically correct.
***** Its probably just his PTSD.
Ik but for the sake I wanna get that kiss scene, side Chloe :/ even this choice is logically nonsense
David and Hank have very different traits in before the storm, which made me forget David ever insulted Max for wearing Rachel's attire
yeah you can tell when he saves max at the end
David turns his head at max at 1:43 like "Make her shut up" XD
"I have to take a dump. Are you coming Max?"
xD Why is that even there??
(2:07)
As much as as an asshole he seems, I feel really bad for David. He's a veteran who suffers from PTSD and just wants to be with Chloe and Joyce. He loves Chloe and just wants to protect her. If he gets kicked out of the house he looks actually depressed, crying even that he can't be with his family. He acts over the top because he's not used to regular life.
I really like Chloe, probably one of my favourite characters in the game, but she can be immature and irrational sometimes. I feel like that a lot of Chloe aimed decisions will have a bad effect on everyone, including Chloe, if you side with Chloe. The game is basically asking, "How much will you do for your friend? Even if it does make them unhappy for a short time?"
But hell even then, I feel like that even veterans can keep their cool to a certain point. Considering how David already hit Chloe (If you didn't intervene in episode one) and threatened to hit her in episode three. Another thing that really pissed me off about him is the fact that David told a homeless woman "To get a job". I know that has nothing to do with Chloe, but people who do that really piss me off.
Personally, I sided with Chloe, although David does have good intentions for his family, I feel like that he's just sort of hurting them in the process. It really annoys me that people give him slack though just for being shown as an antagonist. I don't actually think that David is a bad or evil man, especially when compared to actual antagonists like Nathan Prescott but people like to say he's good just because he's "bad".
I feel like the line "Is that your Rachel Amber halloween costume?" is even a bit asshole-y. Considering how is he a head security guard makes a joke about a missing girl that he probably should be at least trying to find.
yeah he loves her all right. he fucking hit her across the face. lol HELLO
Uh yeah have you ever seen (SPOILERS)
the way he reacted in episode 5 when you tell him the truth about Chloe's death. If that's not enough to tell you that he loves then I don't know what is. The slap was still wrong though.
+Chase Pruitt She stole a gun & was buying drugs. At that point she needed sense slapped into her.
Thanks for that...going with David. No need to break their fam up
He hits women.
I was torn on this choice for a while. I initially sided with Chloe because David needed to be called out on his shit, but then I saw that it broke up Joyce and David. I couldn't do that to the family.
I had to rewind and side with David. Chloe is right too, but she was being a brat about the whole thing. David is trying to do the right thing, but the way he approaches the situation is entirely wrong. He's not 100% an asshole, but he does legitimately care about his family and the students' well being.
Chloe will be pissed, but she'll get over it.
ArtofDestiny Well I don't know, I think Chloe may feel like everyone was against her or being gang up on her. Especially if you contradict her most of the time with the choices.
The fact the chloe knows about the rewind power means she knows you decided to change it after seeing both sides, thats semi why she feels youre against her too, but it's really her dad dying that she still hasnt come to terms with
It really didn't break them up. It more was just that she kicked him out of her home, its not like that leads to a divorce.
will haxby That is the first step to a break up.
Next mission: bring the family back for Joyce
david is a nice guy but sadly, war gave him severe paranoia.
No matter what side you choose David and Joyce will be together in the end.
I really hated this decision because there's so much to think about for both sides.
David spies on people that looks creepy but... Isn't that the same thing we do throughout the entire game? We do it for our own motives, abusing a time rewind powee. And so does David.
But putting aside that, David is really confrontational about everything. Just by looking at this scene alone, the way he talks to Max first... And him saying that "this is now my family" he just seems so possessive.
I think His Ptsd Was speaking he was a War veteran and He needed Comfort not Telling what he Did was right he Had good intention but was going the wrong way like you could see if I am right when he slapped Chloe he also hesitated but think about it chloe Is a Little immature and Does Things Her way even if it hurts another person. So in my opinion I would side with David I wish there was a Third one Which was just be quiet that would have been more appropriate
Max's dialogue delivery and body language in this scene is amazing. She looked like a lioness coiled up and ready to fight!
yes, specially at 0:44
"Shitass punks" 😂😂😂
Ikr
I am surprised with how many people dislike Chloe. Just put yourself in her place for a second: you have the perfect life and family until your dad dies in a car accident, and you get forced to live with a stepfather who does nothing but to boss you around by yelling and spying like if you were a criminal, while your mum, the last support you have is by his side. Chloe acts the way she does because she feels trapped and alone.
Not to mention that while at the end of the game I did end up understanding and liking David, that does not excuse his behavior at all, threating students, spying them and even his own family, slapping his stepdaughter, insulting and dissrespecting everyone who disagrees with him and threating anyone he suspects from. He might have good intentions, but that doesn't give him the right to cross any limit, morality, control and simply do whatever he wants without anyone's consent. Not to mention the disrespectful way he talks to his own family when they just disagree with him, he just walks into the room and starts to bully his own daughter and her bestie and in front of his wife, do you find that normal?
Of course I will always side with Chloe on this one. And I am amazed how many people excuse David's behaviour and actions because he was trying to do the right thing while Chloe gets all the hate. There's a huge different people, Chloe is a teenager, of course she is going to act stupid lots of times, David on the other hand is an adult that worked in the military, he should know better than act like this. And Chloe is being a brat? Just because he was told to calm down, David insulted Max, his daughter and his wife, of course that's totally mature.
Ikr? In fact in episode 5, he outright stated he can't even excuse his own behaviour. How can you excuse someone's behaviour if they can't even excuse it themselves?
Preach it. PREACH IT.
I am so sick of people having no empathy against Chloe.
I also notice many people miss that here David took the first shot... at Max. So how is that called for?
BtS fixed Chloe's (toxic) character somehow but it still doesn't excuse her actions in LiS. David is a PTSD solider, so you can't use the "Chloe is the only damaged person" excuse. Neither of them is right, but David is the lesser evil compared with Chloe.
Chloe doesn't cares about anyone else other than herself. She doesn't even care about her mother, someone who feels responsible for her father's death, and even though she's also destroyed she doesn't show it as much as Chloe does and also tries to move on with her life (unlike Chloe who completely destroyed her own life). But in this scene, Chloe takes that "bit of happiness" from her in a really immature way (she IS justified, but the way she and Max teared into David is worse than just being quiet about it).
At least David cares about his family. Sure, he might be a paranoid person and rude when accused of something, but he tries his best to keep the people he cares about safe.
I don't hate her as a person, and I know she has some good in her, but just like we can't excuse David for his behavior, we shouldn't excuse Chloe's either. That's just unfair. David is impulsive and rude, but Chloe is self centered and entitled. They both had room for improvement in the beginning.
Chloe is not a child, she's around 19 years old. She's old enough to take responsibility for her own actions. And the way she treats Max (especially in the first 2 or 3 episodes) was really shitty. I'd be mad too if my best friend ignored me for 5 years too, so I'd understand why Chloe would be bitter towards Max, but throwing Max under the bus by blaming her for the weed that she never touched just so she could get out of trouble was incredibly selfish and immature. Then she either gets mad at Max when she truthfully tells David that it isn't her's, or she don't feel bad or say sorry to Max when she does take the blame and is completely oblivious to how it might affect Max in the future.
Chloe herself even admits in the end of the game that she had been selfish and unfair towards Max.
Chloe: I have to take a dump.
Me: but ur standing by the door..
I don't know. If you side with David, Max completely lies about not having any proof of the surveillance. And what he was doing WAS creepy, regardless of whether he has PTSD or not.
I think Chloe is a brat, but something does need to be changed in that family, because David isn't a saint either. And I just think that step fathers shouldn't be as in control of the child as David is trying to be, especially when he's living in Joyce's house and not the other way round.
Nothing changes, though. You just break the family and leave Joyce to suffer from another loss.
Also, Chloe was in drugs (and a spoiled brat) and David only wanted to help her (in his messed/weird way).
lorenzo romano It seems that way from the game's perspective, but Max is just an 18 year old kid who exposed the fact that David was spying on her daughter. I know that he wanted to help her, and I really like him by the end of the game, but there's no excuse for doing that, no matter what age she is.
I know that universe didn't really end up mattering in the end, but when you get to the tornado while the storm is going on, I told Joyce to make up her own mind. And David is still with Joyce at the end of the game if you choose to save the Bay.
+Charizarzar I didn't understand the first paragraph ("what age *she* is").
As for the second, they are together because Max "returned" to the original timeline, erasing everything the player did (for example, I couldn't change Joyce's mind about him, but they are still together in the ending).
lorenzo romano Well I've seen people go on about how it wasn't creepy because Chloe was a legal age. It's still fuckin creepy to put cameras in someone's bedroom.
+Charizarzar and also a giant invasion of privacy. What she does in HER room should be HER business not his.
Chloe wants us to go for a dump with her. :3
Lol that's what I thought
I was like why the fuck do u want me to come watch you shit
I was like I don't wanna watch you take a dump. Lol
Nilin Lusankya dahahaaaam
i'd take a dump with her
I don't blame Max for siding with Chloe if chosen. After what David said sitting at the chair "It's my family now." Nope. That doesn't sit right with me. Fuck that.
letmusiclivee i think david is actually a good guy. the game demonizes him so much that i would expect he will end up saving blackwell. If you've seen episode 4 you would know what i mean.. not everyone is how they seem
+MisterLJamison A good guy that put cameras in his stepdaughter's bedroom.. Yeah.
+Charizarzar oh not to mention slaps her across the face lol
Charizarzar yeah so he could check it out of the Theves tries to broke in
Charizarzar He didn't put cameras in her bedroom.
This is kinda one of those after you beat the game kinda choices, because during a first playthrough you're supposed to think David is a bad guy. But after the end you start to notice that David is actually a good guy
David isn't the villain of the story that doesn't mean he's a good guy. He's still abusive and was a horrible presence in Chloe's life.
I find Chloe troublesome to deal with. However despite his PTSD and good intentions it was so hard to side with David. Even if you care about people you just can't go around stalking them and trying to control their lives. Plus Max wasn't necessarily wrong when she said David doesn't respect anyone else, he sort of just does his own thing without anyone one's consent because he thinks he always everything and what's best for others.
Exactly, it surprises me that people use that as an excuse to side with him. It would be a creepy thing to do no matter what age someone was, but as a grown man David should've known better. And having cameras in Chloe's room is just too weird.
@@Charizarzar there not in her room just outside if it
That's not exactly the same thing that we do? Going back to "fix" something for the "better" trying to justify ourselves?
I hate this choice because, to be fair it's not really Max's business. This is a personal issue and in real life I would have just kept out of it.
As for the choices, I sided with David because i'd rather piss off Chloe than split up a family
Chloe: does drugs
David:WAIT THATS ILLEGAL
David has files of some students, installed spy camera's in his wife's home, has hit his step daughter and has harassed some students.
If Max chooses to take the photo of David and Kate in ep 1,she has solid evidence he does bully some students.
What I am trying to say is, how can he possible look like the good guy, atleast in Joyces eyes?
What really ticks me off is that: David doesn't try to defend or excuse his actions, Joyce just blindly believes Max about the files and the conflict has nothing to do with Max. The three are supposed to figure it out.
Before I found out the truth, I used to think David was an accomplice for Nathan due to the surveillance tech & student files Max found in the garage for targeting the students as prey, as well for the darkroom with all that canned food for off grid survival.
Joyce is a badass thought
Who else yelled "TMI TMI TMI TMI!!!!!" at 2:07
I wonder why people side with David failed to see that David did took the first shot... at Max. How is that called for?
I sided with David, I did Chloe at first and I felt so bad. So I had to redo it
As much as I appreciate that David was trying to get to the Bottom of Everything happening in Arcadia Bay, he was being too careless and uncaring of who he hurt in the process. He cares about Joyce and Chloe just has a hard time showing it. He treats everyone like a criminal even if they have done nothing wrong, like bullying Kate Marsh when she was going through hell and having thoughts of suicide because someone drugged her and did things to her. No one helped her except for Max and that's what led to her suicide attempt. another example is him hiding surveillance cameras all around Joyce's house or petitioning to have surveillance cameras put everywhere all over Blackwell Academy. He actually told Nathan to tell someone that Rachel was pushing drugs on campus when she wasn't to get her in trouble so she'd be out of Chloe's life because she thought Rachel was a bad influence on Chloe. That's illegal right there so David is out of control. That's why I side with Chloe in this argument. He was just acting like he was at War the entire time and that everyone was an enemy and a criminal
I will never side with Chloe on this, she's very immature. She was literally going the junkyard to buy drugs that David warned her was a dangerous location to be around, then on top of that stole a gun. David may get over the top but Chloe on purposely presses his buttons. He wants to believe Chloe is better then that but all she wants to do is piss him off out of rebellious spite.
To be fair David did fire the first shot... at Max. How is that called for?
Also he was spying on Rachel, Kate, and Max... and if you side with Chloe and cause Joyce to kick him out of the house... he blames everything on Max as if his spying activities on various people is all Max's fault. How is it all her or Chloe's fault?
If Max hurt David's family... she would have done it a long time ago.
She’s not immature. David was abusive to her.
Does...Does David wear eyeshadow?
Chloe: “I have to take a dumb. Are you coming, Max?”
Why would she join you doing your business?
Becuz they are together
I really don't get why people keep calling Chloe a brat. I'll always side with Chloe. I hated that she blamed Max for leaving but I kinda understand how she feels, but that's no reason to be pissed at her.
I do get David's point, but spying on everyone just isn't the way to go about helping. The reason why Chloe is acting out so much is because Chloe left right her died and she felt like Max didn't love her and had abandoned her even though she really didn't.
Then she met a beautiful girl, fell in love with her and then Rachel goes missing. Then Chloe finds out that she's dead. How would y'all react? She's been through a lot. Chloe feels like she's unloved when in fact, she's very loved. Her Mom loves her, her Dad loved her & so does David. And her best friend Max is in love with her.
What Chloe goes through is something that nobody should ever have to go through. She looses her Dad, her best friend who she later develops romantic feelings for (Depending on the choices that you make, even though Chloe probably had feelings for Max even before Max had moved away, that's probably why Chloe had dared Max to kiss her), her Mom remarries a paranoid war veteran (I have nothing against war veterans, they have been through enough horrible shit as it is), she meets a beautiful girl, Rachel, and falls for her & then later finds out that was sleeping with a man & then later finds out that Rachel is dead.
Chloe has a right to be angry, but she shouldn't take her pain out on everyone else either, but I understand why she acts the way she does because of what she's been through.
I said this before and I'll say, what would y'all do in her place?
I totally agree
I love how so many people will go on with hate on David for spying while we as a player at this point has been breaking into the school, look into everyones private computers and e-mails and manipulate people with time travel into taking the infos out if them and use it later to make them like us. He was obsessive freak, yes, but he wanted to know what happened to Rachel just like us. Weird and very dangerous things were happening at Blackwell at this point of the time, David knew that. He wanted good, he just made mistakes along the way. Still that doesn't make us much better considering what Max and Chloe actually do. I think that David was aware that somebody dangerous were in Arcadia Bay and it's partly the reason he installed the cameras in all around the house (which he should absolutely not do without Joyce and Chloe knowing but again, he was paranoid about their safety).
he was also a hypocrite he watched everyone except Nathan what Max and Chloe did was to arrest someone bad except to swim in the pool while David is just paranoid about everything
I mean David took the first shot at Max soooooo yeah I would side with Chloe as she has been through a lot and has the right to act this way. Whilst David has good intentions he just goes around and insults everybody, even his own family, when they disagree with him and let's not forget how fucked up the cameras are in his stepdaughter's room is. Plus at the end of the game you see a real change in Chloe so I don't get all this hate to chloe; she's one of my favourite video game characters
and he blames Max for what he did to Kate and his spying activities on Kate, Rachel, and her.
David is the best character in these games and you can't convince me otherwise.
Tough one. I always side with Chloe, except with Kate's call, and this. David is a good man, he deserves to stay in his home, and this is the better option for Joyce as well
I sided with Chloe because I agree with everything about that stuff. On a side note, I think max looks amazing in that outfit
Joyce sounds... off
First off, I know David does redeem himself at the end, I forgive him and I don't hate him. Never did hate him. Like Max, I respect his service and I appreciate him saving her and taking down Jeffershit. Plus, I do think he was trying to do what was right by Chloe and Joyce. I am glad for Chloe's sake he survived and I love seeing him now have a loving relationship with Chloe and Max too in LiS 2. I save Chloe for his and Joyce's sakes. Who am I to put those two through that kind of pain of burying their kid? Joyce would rather die than lose her daughter, any loving parent would. In dead Chloe ending he loses both of them b/c Joyce divorces him. At least in Bae he has a mended relationship with Chloe and even Max too. However, back to why I side with Chloe, Davie went about the process the wrong way. Prior to saving Max he crossed so many lines. Hitting Chloe and saying condescending remarks to her, going after Max, picking on Kate instead of helping her, secret surveillance system, mistreating the homeless lady, sexist remarks against women/girls, he even calls Joyce a punk and says "screw you" to her. Chloe has been going through Hell for 5 years and a lot of that Hell is David's meanness towards her and Joyce being too in denial to do anything about his mean and abusive behavior. Between that and how awful he's been to Max it just doesn't make sense to take his side. He's not even that grateful if you do; "This is my man cave, no girls allowed" (note the sexism). Last thing I want to do is hurt Chloe even more by defending her abusive step parent against her. It was time for Joyce to snap out of her denial and put him in his place. He may have PTSD and other issues from being in a war and losing Phil but that is not an excuse for his behavior. I do actually pick the "That's your choice" option when talking to Joyce in Episode 5 because her priorities have to be rebuilding her relationship with her daughter, her flesh and blood, her baby. I'm not saying she couldn't eventually take David back, like I said I do believe David earned forgiveness and redemption, but for now her daughter and her own well being too have to come first.
The reason i sided with david is the way he interrogate kate make me more suspicious of what is going on in blackwell. It's simple video about kate was drunk and make up with boys, but the way he interrogate to kate is showing that david is more suspicious about vortex club than kate's scandal video, and i think vortex club is something like hideous criminal group but covered with popular reputation.
And then after seeing binders and wells' computer, i was thinking that david is probably have guessed about nathan but he didnt have much evidences, cos evidence is sure way to get criminal into jail. So i sided with david, in case when chloe is in danger, david is the one saving her.
But i never thought he is saving max and chloe is still killed and it was disappointing.
About chloe, well i understand about intruding privacy and human rights all that, but that's just immature when is dealing to the adult, especially if the adult is know so much about being security guard, law, and especially soldier. While chloe is have reputation of rebel, mischievollus, and police records, i hardly side with chloe if she wants to get treated fairly. No matter how her dark past is, she is just fight losing battle.
Max looks so sharp in Rachel's shirt. Better than Rachel herself..
I’m always scared to pick the other choices so glad to see the other side of this situation
My favorite voice acting in the game,
I chose to blame David, understandably I don’t want to break their family up but I doubted Joyce would just give up on him in the end anyway. David SERIOUSLY needs to learn to stop poking his nose where it doesn’t belong and if tough love from his family is what he needs to realize that then so be it. Like everyone else says he’s not a bad guy, not at all but he needs to be taught some kind of lesson
I chose to side with Chloe!
I always sided with Chloe, but for a change, I think I want to try siding with David! I've played all the way thru episode 5 with Chloe on my side. Now I want to try it with David!
(sorry for grammar, I've had a few 🥃 with family!)
Thanks for uploading this! I haven't been able to see what happens when you side with David until now!
I'd still side with Chloe, personally. There's more going against David than for him, even though I think he's got the right intentions.
"Side with Chloe" really?
Man, David is right: Chloe is immature, dramatic and a bad influence to Max. She needs to grow up a little, her dad made everything easy for her until he died. And now, that he is not there to help her, she acts like a child... For real?
Agree
Disagree.
Disagree
Agree
Agree
I don’t understand why anyone would side with David
David is very flawed but is still a good man that wants to keep his family together.
Me neither. He’s very abusive and his actions were completely unjustified
I re-watched this scene just to see what people were talking about. There's a lot of people saying that David was raising his hand up like he was about to slap Chloe again. He wasn't, he was simply just talking with his hands. I talk using hand gestures all the time to put emphasis on what I'm saying and to get my point across. Tired of these people over analyzing everything. David is not abusive and he does not hit Chloe on a regular basis. Him hitting her in Episode 1 was a first and last time thing.
I sided with David when I looked into the spoilers and realised his intentions were better than his previous attitude and he does soften up towards Max if you do (reconciles with her either way at the end)
The choices doesn't really matter, anyway. By the end of this "game", Max will side on Chloe no matter what. -_-
David strikes me as a guy who is still having trouble adjusting to civilian life after seeing who knows what overseas. Yes his methods are unorthodox and even invasive to some, but he does it with the best of intentions. It's not like he's going around extorting people and selling their secrets to the highest bidder.
Chloe is a temperamental punk, as is to be expected from teenagers. But that doesn't mean you should just sit back and let it happen.
I sided with David. Maybe it's because I'm Military myself, but I can sympathize with his viewpoint. To a degree. I actually think they did a very good job with David's character overall.
That makes sense! At least you'd also understand David for being Military as well!
I searched "Should I side with david or chloe" and didn't know what should I do because I wasn't sure because I don't wanna cause trouble and want to have david on my side, but at the same time want to be on my friend's side.
Who's better to side with those?
Tho*
dang, you guys are really into this, whatevs, though both people have major flaws to them, david, while he cares about his family, makes stupid choices and can be a major dickhead to anybody if they disagree with him in the slightest sense, while some of you guys in the comments are siding with him cuz he cares about family, i know someone like david irl and those kind of people can be the biggest assholes you have ever met (speaking from personal experience), and chloe, can be a douche herself too, doing illegal stuff, but don't forget that she's like that mainly because her dad died, and we all saw how close she was to her dad when *spoiler alert* max goes back in time to save william, and that can change people, i knew another person who was also like that and she was a handful, there's also the fact that max is bestfriends with chloe and hates david, but then again, max is a pretty moral person, so it isn't really surprising like some of you guys think of how most people chose to side with chloe, but i guess it just comes down to our own personal way of thinking, be a moral person who does all good even for those who hurt you, or be don't be a person all about morals and do good things only for those that you care about, your call
That was maybe the hardest decision so far in the game - more than steal not steal or shoot not shoot or anything. It affects more people even directly and whon knows what later even if the town is saved and the cases closed. And David may be the only prfessional who may protect Chloe and so Max...
I 💙 Chloe! I just came here to see what would happen... Now I know that I'm never siding with David.
Ik even as pricefield, I logically should side with David because he’s right (even saved Max from the dark room)
Sigh* But sorry David, Chloe is the main objective even the choice to side her is ridiculous asf
It's the choice to take David's side that is ridiculous the choice with Chloe is moral
Hank and David in Before the Storm do not match at all in the first game
Chloe's is a bad friend
But David needed to hear that
No she's not
I want to know watch one is best.
Why did Joyce not care that David hit chloe
I feel that we should aide with David...why would they make us choose between them like this? Obviously we’d want to side with Chloe but if you actually use your deductive reasoning skills I believe David is the better option. And I kind of unintentionally have been going against Chloe the whole game....I didn’t step out of the closet for the joint, I didn’t shoot frank so he took the gun, and I answered Kate’s call. So I might as well go all in since I’m obviously not pro Chloe all the way.
Rewind or not rewind
What happend if you side with Chloe while you got suspended and take a blame for chloe or intervene while David talk to Chloe? Is there any changes?
David isn't the bad guy here. Combat vets are different people. Civilian life never works out well for them.
Joyce seriously has to sort out her priorities. The dude hits your daughter and cameras are the problem? He doesn’t have the cameras in the bathroom or bedrooms anyways so it serves nothing but safety??
Well guys to all of you who just kept leaving Chloe in trouble, I wonder which of these "bffs pictures" on your Instagram profile is fake.
I bet all of them.
Keep em coming! :)
I love Chloe and sided with her the entire game but here I just couldn’t, especially since I’ve played this game and LiS 2. He’s a good man, just severely misguided.
The characters aren't suppose to know that david is a good man at that point in the story
@@sandudelcea6707 I’m aware of that. He’s a red herring up until the end. You can see that I said made the choice I made because I already played these games.
@@simpleplanfan011 well when i will play this game, i will do an evil playthrough 1st, and then a playthrough where i make choices that the characters themselves would make at that point in the story, so in this moment, the evil choice is side with david becuz chloe gets upset and it's like max would be defending the person that slapped chloe since that would also be an evil choice.
Even now I still side with Chloe here bc of how David had treated everyone. Especially Kate. Do t get me wrong, I agree he has a good heart but he needed a time out. I love his mended relationship with Chloe in LiS 2.
@@chloe-stephlis6281 LIS 2 david>>>>>>>LIS 1 david
Only reason why i side with chloe because she max best friend and plus chloe die the most in this series
She dies either way though
@@mynameisreallycool1 not in my game
I first sided with Chloe, because obviously David did breach people's privacy by keeping distinct records, and surveillance on them. However, after reading through the comments here, as well as this article here guides.gamepressure.com/lifeisstrange/guide.asp?ID=30782, and adding up all of Chloe's reasoning, and David's reasoning, I decided to opt with David.
The reason being, that even though Max seems to lie for Joyce & David's sake about the surveillance, and David did hit Chloe depending on the decision you make, and David did indeed bully Kate, he did not have creepy or bad intentions with them. His army days left him overly paranoid, and he still treats daily life as a military service. He needs help readjusting into daily life, and understanding the world is not as bad as a war-zone. It's the intentions behind his reasoning that made me side with him, knowing it wasn't creepy or wrong, just misguided.
Chloe does seem to get quite hurt by this decision, especially if you contradict most of her decisions, but if you help her most of the time, then even if she brings it up in Chapter 3 & 4 at times, it will be a minor slope down the track. Chloe is an emotional teenager, with random outbursts and her mindset is still a bit childish. It means that Chloe and Max will more likely not begin a dating relationship together, but will remain very close friends, especially if you sacrifice the bay over Chloe. It also depends on how the player feels about each situation, whether they like Warren more as a partner for Max, or how they want legacy of the bay to unfold, etc...
I can decide
I choose David I saw the comments that's why
Joyce was fine. I had no problem kicking him out. Never understood the relationship in the first place. William is too good a guy for David to be the rebound. He always treated her like kinda sexist the way he talks about it too also spying on girls is wrong. And he's the type of douche to vote for trump and say things like libtard. Not taking Chloe side either. I honestly liked her wheelchair scenario better. She wasn't an annoying ungrateful brat
I sided with Chloe at first but then I felt really bad and went jumped back an episode.
It’s understandable that David’s behavior is caused largely by his PTSD, but no one should EVER use that as a reason to justify abuse. There IS no justifying abuse. It is inherently wrong, always. If anyone is in an abusive relationship of any kind (parent, spouse, etc.) please try to persuade them to seek help from a professional. Show your support for them, but please know what the limits are and get out of there if things are not improving! If they constantly refuse to seek professional help, then it’s simply too late for them anyway, or they’ll help themselves too late to undo the damage they had done to you! It’s sad, but true. Abusers are especially dangerous because they can escalate into other behaviors, even if the abuse started small. I’m talking about rape (of spouse or kids), potentially lethal levels of abuse, etc. All it takes is one beer bottle thrown at just the right angle and you’re looking at the corpse of your six- year-old daughter in the living room from being hit in the temple. Just ONE second, and it’s too late to change your mind about staying with that abusive a**hole, because you’ve lost everything that mattered to you anyway. This is what happened to a friend of mine. I’m not going to sugarcoat it. This stuff can get serious fast, and it doesn’t even need to be “serious” to still end badly. Please seek help when you need it. I’m sorry I went off on a rant there, but some of the comments to this video are disturbing in that a lot of people seem to agree that the best course of action is to ENABLE the abuser simply because he has PTSD. Please don’t do that…
i mean he physically abuses chloe
Before the storm its diferrent
Deputy LaFours from Mallrats is a fun guy compared to David.
David was nice when I talked to him during school, that’s why I was struggling so much on who I should side with. I felt so bad for him when I sided with Chloe. To be honest Chloe gets mad so easily. She seems so sensitive about every little thinf
i would side with david on this one too
Siding with david is technically a good choice.
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in the beginning, i thought David WAS the bigger dick, but as the story progressed i realized that Davids not such a bad person. i understand Max and Chloe are friends, but in this case Chloe really got on my nerves letting her mouth run off. after reading all those notes and seeing all the pics of David and Joyce and how happy they looked, i sided with David cause i didnt wanna fuck up their marriage or their family. after it was over my feelings for Chloe were neutral. part of me likes her, part of me cant stand her.