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Great video! But, I have to put in some corrections here: Drummer - Follow another track IS THERE on the iPad! Battery life - this is nothing I have on my iPad Pro 12.9’ M1 - can the Sound Interface be the power thief? Problem with touch interface in the track/region area (copy/paste/cut) - why not use a bluetooth mouse when you using iPad on the studio desk? Sending a iPad Logic project to the Mac - why pass a cloud services when you just can Airdrop it - big projects takes just seconds or few minutes if they are huge… Overall - my opinion about Logic Pro for iPad, it’s fuckin’ awesome, and, sure, there are some missing features, but, a lot of users complain often results into that the missing features is already there, on the iPad, but not easy to find without RTFM…
I'm not an Apple guy, so my iPad Air 11" M2 is the first iAnything I've ever bought. I've only been playing around with the month trial of Logic Pro for about a day, and I already see it becoming my main DAW. I have a monster desktop PC with FL Studio and all the plugins, but since my day job involves sitting at a computer, I don't really like doing it when I get home. While the iPad isn't entirely different, it's enough of a different vibe to make me want to pick it up. Some more specific thoughts/tips I've already figured out: 1. If you're going to be using it in one spot, and with external gear, get a USB hub with power pass through, aka PD(Power Delivery), you won't have to worry about draining your battery 2. You DO NOT NEED AN IPAD PRO. Unless you're doing really large projects or using a lot of the AI musician stuff, I don't think you really need an iPad Air. The 10th gen iPad has the power to run this app pretty well, I'm sure, since it's get as much or more than some of the older Pro models I've seen people using on TH-cam. With 256GB of storage I think it's under $500 here in the USA right now.
That’s what’s cool about this channel. Everyone can tell you about specs of a device and blah blah blah. You went and wrote and recorded a whole song. I think it’s cool for something on the go or whatever. You know kids these days doing things.
That was my era of music! Thanks for sharing those tricks like vocal doubling. Your song came out a lot like HuskerDu's Warehouse Songs and Stories. From the ancient times. 😊
The drummer can follow a track; it's just that the interface is a little different. The touch interface is a little hit or miss, but I think things are moving in the right direction. It's amazing that we can have an inexpensive, lightweight, truly portable studio that fits in your backpack. Thanks for the video and the track. I hope you get your records back someday 😅
Not that cheap if you want a iPad Pro M2 with 1 TB of storage and 16G of Ram, and an apple pencil ,,, here in Australia that would cost about AU$3.500 thereabouts.. cheaper to use a MacBook Pro or Air.
I’m really enjoying Logic on the iPad! I’ve never seen your channel before but i truly appreciate you using it in a real life demonstration and also being transparent that it’s not the right application for your workflow but it could be for others. The value for me is I travel a bunch and the ability to track ideas is priceless. The reason this works for me is the form factor but also i can use my iPad for everything else I use it for. Have a great weekend dude
This is true. And for those not wanting to pay for the subscription, there are other good DAWs on iPad for a one-off price, such as Cubasis 3, NanoStudio 2, etc.
@@drinkinslim yes indeed! I just paid the one time annual fee to try it out for a year. I use cubasis on iPad but love the idea of my files transferring right over on logic
Hi Jason, well done tutorial, congratulations. Two points I see differently: for me there is no either/or with Logic iPad7Mac, only and. I start something, sometimes in bed, on the deckchair and see it's on a promising path. So far I haven't had to boot up a computer or add any peripherals. Now it's worth the effort to switch to the computer. I don't transfer the project via the cloud, but with airdrop. It works great. I also come from the guitar, but I rarely play it any more. As a guitarist, I automatically have more devices on the iPad, which is not so easy.. You describe the problems of using a new program and compare it with a program that you have been using blindly for years. Don't you think the problem will simply disappear over time? I'm sure it does. I‘m Logic user since it‘s very first version and iPads for a year now, and happy with both
Enjoyed your painfully honest approach about the iPad's limitations. I think the proposed future benefit for me as a professional credited recordered composer is getting away from the confines of the home studio to a (lol) park bench after a brisk walk, clearing my head and pulling out the pad and picking up where I left off. to date, I've used Jump Desktop to work this way and hopeful with the iPad software that the cloud storage quickens and pulls this all together. I'm hopeful for a more collaborative writing future as well with Apple devices. Thoughts?
I’ve been swapping projects back and forth between my iMac and iPad via iCloud and it’s literally instantaneous so something was ‘not quite right’ when you tried this I’d suggest. Since I am still using an Intel iMac I like how I can now easily share recordings from AUv3 plugins on the iPad that are only currently M1 supported. Similarly, if I want to drop a stem from say UVI Falcon into a track I’m developing on the iPad I can now do that more easily. I tend to do a lot of brainstorming on the iPad so I’ll probably invest in a 1-year annual subscription and device next steps at the end of that year.
@@cured_bacon647 sure that option works as well but means you have 2 copies of the same project. There are several ways to share Logic projects between platforms...
Great video and awesome demo song! Here’s a tip : you could just AirDrop your LogicPro for iPad project to your Mac in a few seconds instead of uploading it to iCloud!
Hi there. I appreciate your painfully honest opinion. I just purchased an iPad and I’m definitely thinking of buying or subscribing now Logic Pro. I’m painfully new to the whole DAW scene so I’m definitely researching what works best for me.
Thanks. My experience is that it takes time to get your head around another way of working. After working with it for several nights in a row I feel I can find my way around easily and produce tracks efficiently. I make electronic music and use Synthmaster one and 2, which produce desktop class sound on the iPad. This gives me hope for other manufacturers to port Serum, for example.
Cool to see you make a song. Not sure it’s a video you’d want to make, but I would be fun to have a series of videos about the process of creating a song and what tech you’d need. I remember your headphone and mic videos were great.
I’ve just subscribed to Logic Pro iPad. I can’t see myself getting comfortable with it unless I can import all my shortcut keys from Logic Mac and use a mouse. MacBook Air M1 is probably the answer for me.
Good sounding song. I came here looking for a new iOS recording studio because Spire Studio limits my mixing/editing options but I still love how my track sounds. I didn’t want to fool with Garage Band. Plus it’s pretty huge. Was looking into Logic since you’ve mentioned it to see if I can use it on my iPhone.
Very interesting, informative video 👍🏻. I'm a longtime user of Garageband on iPad/iPhone and have recently decided I'm ready to move up from that to something a bit more capable. However, I'm not interested in a subscription nor is my iPad Pro new enough to support LP so Cubasis is what I'm toying around with presently. Maybe at some point in the future when I get a newer iPad I'll look at Logic.
Nice video. Like you, as an old Logic for Mac user, I tried Logic for iPad and decided not to subscribe. The experience made me try out Logic Remote for iPad which is a free program from Apple. Logic Remote let’s you use an iPad for a lot of the user interface functions to control alógico running on your Mac. You can even use two iPads controlling different functions at the same time. I found Logic Remote to be more useful than alógica Oro for iPad.
Excellent excellent video, and excellent excellent song! So true that as songwriters we never often know where the inspiration will come from..be it the lyrics, or grooves., or from Up Above or whatever...We only need our tools to be easy to use, and not to get in the way and stifle the creativity. The drum tool in Logic sounded great, as the drums kick, and sound powerful. I would have enjoyed a few "in the process " audio clips prior to the finished song. The platforms we use to record the music are ultimately irrelevant, as getting the music or video completed with an enhancement of our creativity is a reasonable expectation from most of the modern DAWs and tools at our disposal. AI is also an incredible aid to this process. People sometimes laugh when I say that I use Band In The Box, to aid in my songwriting, because they don't know how good it's current capabilities are, but over the years it has become a fantastic idea generator. Any tool that works and helps us create is a winner as far as I am concerned,, and when Apple has a good product, they often make it a great one with their constant updates, and I think Logic Ipad will be a great one over time as they keep improving it. For people who need or want the portability, it's one of the only hi-level products around. For the final mix on the tune I might bring the vocals up a bit more in the mix. ( we can all be producers and engineers now with these excellent products.) This video was really a great demonstration of the power of TH-cam and the way it can be used to review and show us about a product in a really meaningful way.
Thanks! It was a fun "what can I do in an afternoon" project. Logic for iPad is pretty decent as a place to start. Don't know if I could use it in place of Logic for Mac or other DAWs.
You are channeling Bob Mould or The Smithereens. I didn't know that Logic Pro's license includes lifetime updates. I am a Windows guy, but I have been an iPad user since the first version. I have Cubasis 3, though for making music on the iPad I mess around with Aum patches. For a bare-bones audio interface that is really good and not too pricey, I like the UAD Volt series.
How strange, I bought a a new photography book yesterday called yesterday by Robert Freeman and it looks like you have the cover picture tattooed on your arm. Only clicked on as I’ve just downloaded Logic Pro for my iPad🤯🤯
This my first time to this channel and my favorite part is that this guy didn’t try to sell me a product instead gave his opinion on the product he’s using
For the life of me I cannot get a remotely decent tone from anything in Amp Designer on logic for iPad. I know it’s not my guitar, cable, interface, headphone because I get fantastic tones with ToneStack. I can’t figure it out but I just cannot get a usable tone.
Great sound J🤘 There’s only one thing that I would have done a bit different, and that’s the backup vocals. I think they were a tiny bit too loud compaired to your main vocal. Other than that, thumbs up👍👍🏿👍🏻👍🏽👍
Since you've worked with Logic Pro on desktop for so long, perhaps you can answer this question... Is there any way to turn off the Staff view in the MIDI note editing window? I only want to see the piano roll, never need to see the notes on a staff... for any reason! I'd be grateful if you have any tips or hints.
I don't ever see the staffs. Use 'Command + 4' to open that window. or just double click the midi you want to edit. You can also make your own Screenset and save whatever windows you want as a shortcut.
Hi ….I’m a fingerstyle guitarist & a TH-camr I use to record on Logic Pro- IPAD WITH LEWITT LCT-240 condenser Mic + Acoustic guitar inbuilt pickup for ( 2 layers of recording) But still I’m not satisfied with the guitar output…. I think i m missing 3rd party VST effects like on Mac ……can u plz suggest how I can get better output ( specially for Fingerstyle cover recordings )
You have to know what plugins to pick. Logic's stock plugins are all pretty much based on well-known gear of the past. The stock compressor mimics all the different styles of compressors. The EQ as well. So do some research on the signal chains that have worked best for other folks. Also, make sure you're mixing the guitar in the best way possible to get the sound you hear in your head. the sound of finger-style guitar close miccd (~12" away ) is much different than the sound of a good room and the guitar 3 feet away. Also, make sure you're recording at a decent level (around -6db peak) and if you're blending the pickup and the mic sound, the pickup should barely be audible comparatively. Acoustic guitar pickups can be great for adding body and presence to the sound, but the sound terrible if you can actually hear them. Hope that helps.
I use LP for iPad without a keyboard… Honestly, don’t know what’s the point of using the iPad with a keyboard in substitution for my MacBook. I like touch the touch screen feel of the iPad simply because MacBooks lack the Touch Screen feature. All my 3rd party plugins for Mac aren’t available on iPad. So I just connect my Microfreak and Brumdrute impact to my AI to my iPad and just record my jams…
Maybe. It depends on whether the program can break out the different windows. And connecting the iPad to the Studio Display is buggy. Sometimes it works as an extended display and sometimes it mirrors the iPad display.
everyone i have seen reviewing it say mostly the same thing...they have been waiting forever for an ipad version of logic and then the final review is basically a big, meh. lol --- it's a hard pass for me, i always figured working on an ipad would be a hassle.
Drummers who have opinions probably aren’t just drummers, they most likely play other instruments as well. Trying to explain something to a guitar player can come across as an opinion.
I tried like you used logic since emagic days ,won’t be subscribing it’s ok but not into subscriptions and all my favourite plug ins can’t be used. I think it’s a hobby version and the iPad just doesn’t feel like a proper device for serious work! I love the iPad for reading watching videos etc but the OS is lacking when it comes to heavy lifting! As a scratchpad it’s ok but £49 a year no thanks 😅
For me it’s a matter of preference. I make music on my phone and on the iPad and I know of many people who do and there are many instances of quality music that has been created on iPads. I don’t view it as a scratch pad but, I know it’s dependant on the work one is doing and the workflow one prefers
@@KAMOYA17 Fair comment and respected everyone has their own way of doing things , but the big limitation at the moment for the iPad is the lack of plug ins. I can see touch interface benefits and i am sure it will get better in time it is still early days for the iPad in terms of professional apps!
@@Keyboardnut99 Your comment that it lacks plugins on iPad stills a wrong statement… Have you seen (and used) the plugins on iPad? Fabfilter, Eventide, IK Multimedia etc etc… There’s A LOT nowadays, and more on the way from Baby Audio and many other known companies…
I agree iPad seems logical but after 10 years it hasn’t totally happened…I am frustrated with learning logic it is so annoying…I will watch tutorial because it is seems to have some cool features
Enjoyed this........................But as an aside........ I have a Mac Pro sitting under my desk that cost me about $5,000.00 plus software. It may as well be a boat anchor because it can't use the updates that Apple so conveniently give away once one pays the one up cost as you point out. What's the point? They only give one updates for free to make one buy another computer. Bloody expensive updates I reckon having to spent thousands every five years for a new box.
You’re stuck in the sunk cost fallacy. You got what you paid for. It’s still operational. If you want new features you have to buy new stuff. No one expects the cool stuff from a brand new car for their 10 year old used car. But it still runs.
@@thejasontlewis You are right. I did get what I paid for, more fool me. I see your point but we have to compare apples with apples so to speak. Your car analogy enforces my point and lessens yours. I can strap on a turbo, upgrade the tyres, change the 'carby et al and the car runs. I could even attach a computer management system to run all the 'cool stuff'. ( Now there's a debate for another day) I can upgrade the engine and the windscreen wipers etc. etc.. I can't do the computer equivalent on an Apple computer because the hardware is made finite by the O.S. and nothing on my car is. I can change it all and it will run. Apple intentionally change the software to not run on existing hardware. I'm comparing Microsoft and Apple, not cars and computers. I did buy new 'stuff': 'it's called Windows 10 and Windows 11. (Sorry, got it all for free actually). All my software still runs on my new Win 11 partition that ran on Win 7. I can still update all my software and it runs. I only had to buy the software, not a whole new computer. I can't update Final Cut Pro, After Effects, Logic or even that nice little Garage Band app. My Apple 'sunk cost ' ( who thought up that groovy term) is no fallacy. I, in my ignorance, bought a Mac Pro without knowing it would be totally 'OBSOLETE" in five years. Nothing I say here is a criticism of you. I don't know you other than by what you present yourself as to me. I would concede that you are probably much smarter than me, but hell, that would be very easy. Good luck in the future. That's all I've got to say about this. source: Forest Gump
No way am I subscribing to any DAW. Better to BOYCOTT this product by Apple before they try to start imposing subscriptions on Logic Pro X for the MacBook and Mac Pro. This is a ‘Test Run’ by Apple to ‘test the waters’. If we let them get away with this now, you should be aware of what the future will hold. I recently walked away from Pro Tools for this very reason. BOYCOTT each and every DAW Company that attempts to impose subscriptions.
Typewriter jockeys are all whining about this or that but it’s all in your head . This is so great even in this first version. If you take a deep breath stop worrying about which plugin you can’t use ( yet) or what key command isn’t available. This is a touch device . It’s ten times more intuitive but your marriage to the Qwerty and mouse isn’t . It’s pointless to keep complaining because you guys with typewriters under your arms all resent having your exclusiveness threatened. You know people who Don’t resent this are seizing your missed opportunities in the field were your not stuck in front of your computer. Give it time you won’t regret it. The typewriter won’t be going into the future with us because it’s a boat anchor accessory. I’ve already paid for my Mac ultra twin with two gigs using Logic on the iPad Pro …cause it’s a game changer.✌️👽
It’s a game changer mainly in the sense that it’s only available to rent. Boycott this, because if Apple succeed with this all your desktop and other apps are next!
@@xray2785 the reason this happened is because developers of apps couldn’t continue unpaid for updates much less do Logic in a freaky new streamlined version . Remember audio-bus? Etc etc . And the other reason is exactly what you just said people who used the old version want it for free too including free updates and they are reluctant to use something without a QWERTY and mouse which are both right in front of your iPad Pro I noticed . They are also tracking how many people are using it ( the real reason it’s pay to play ) so if you want to see a one time pay version with paid updates ( a more realistic request) or one with an educational discount which I’m sure is in the works for students just like the desktop version is set up that way too. I’m glad this is available and you can still use the old version which was just updated for free so what’s the problem? Give it time and use it like you want to get to own …maybe apple will respond to positive reviews better than negative ones if they are to even consider what your saying this early …yes? 👽✌️
Updates for Life ? No. After a couple years Logic teils you that your Computer or iOS does not meet requirements to run Logic. Than you have to buy a new Computer and pay Full price for the Version of Logic that Runs on this new Computer
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Great video!
But, I have to put in some corrections here:
Drummer - Follow another track IS THERE on the iPad!
Battery life - this is nothing I have on my iPad Pro 12.9’ M1 - can the Sound Interface be the power thief?
Problem with touch interface in the track/region area (copy/paste/cut) - why not use a bluetooth mouse when you using iPad on the studio desk?
Sending a iPad Logic project to the Mac - why pass a cloud services when you just can Airdrop it - big projects takes just seconds or few minutes if they are huge…
Overall - my opinion about Logic Pro for iPad, it’s fuckin’ awesome, and, sure, there are some missing features, but, a lot of users complain often results into that the missing features is already there, on the iPad, but not easy to find without RTFM…
i knew you drop acid😜
I'm not an Apple guy, so my iPad Air 11" M2 is the first iAnything I've ever bought. I've only been playing around with the month trial of Logic Pro for about a day, and I already see it becoming my main DAW. I have a monster desktop PC with FL Studio and all the plugins, but since my day job involves sitting at a computer, I don't really like doing it when I get home. While the iPad isn't entirely different, it's enough of a different vibe to make me want to pick it up. Some more specific thoughts/tips I've already figured out:
1. If you're going to be using it in one spot, and with external gear, get a USB hub with power pass through, aka PD(Power Delivery), you won't have to worry about draining your battery
2. You DO NOT NEED AN IPAD PRO. Unless you're doing really large projects or using a lot of the AI musician stuff, I don't think you really need an iPad Air. The 10th gen iPad has the power to run this app pretty well, I'm sure, since it's get as much or more than some of the older Pro models I've seen people using on TH-cam. With 256GB of storage I think it's under $500 here in the USA right now.
That’s what’s cool about this channel. Everyone can tell you about specs of a device and blah blah blah. You went and wrote and recorded a whole song. I think it’s cool for something on the go or whatever. You know kids these days doing things.
Wonderful review! Thanks ever so much for making it!
Thank you!
That was my era of music! Thanks for sharing those tricks like vocal doubling. Your song came out a lot like HuskerDu's Warehouse Songs and Stories. From the ancient times. 😊
Husker Du is one of my favorite bansds of all time.
I was just going to comment that it had a great Bob Mould vibe! Nice track!
The drummer can follow a track; it's just that the interface is a little different.
The touch interface is a little hit or miss, but I think things are moving in the right direction.
It's amazing that we can have an inexpensive, lightweight, truly portable studio that fits in your backpack.
Thanks for the video and the track. I hope you get your records back someday 😅
Not that cheap if you want a iPad Pro M2 with 1 TB of storage and 16G of Ram, and an apple pencil ,,, here in Australia that would cost about AU$3.500 thereabouts.. cheaper to use a MacBook Pro or Air.
@@MyOwnWayMusic Well, that and the subscription will add over time to cost way more than Logic Pro for desktop.
I’m really enjoying Logic on the iPad! I’ve never seen your channel before but i truly appreciate you using it in a real life demonstration and also being transparent that it’s not the right application for your workflow but it could be for others. The value for me is I travel a bunch and the ability to track ideas is priceless. The reason this works for me is the form factor but also i can use my iPad for everything else I use it for. Have a great weekend dude
This is true. And for those not wanting to pay for the subscription, there are other good DAWs on iPad for a one-off price, such as Cubasis 3, NanoStudio 2, etc.
@@drinkinslim yes indeed! I just paid the one time annual fee to try it out for a year. I use cubasis on iPad but love the idea of my files transferring right over on logic
You can use a Bluetooth mouse with iPad … this makes it easier to cut and paste
Hi Jason, well done tutorial, congratulations. Two points I see differently: for me there is no either/or with Logic iPad7Mac, only and. I start something, sometimes in bed, on the deckchair and see it's on a promising path. So far I haven't had to boot up a computer or add any peripherals. Now it's worth the effort to switch to the computer. I don't transfer the project via the cloud, but with airdrop. It works great. I also come from the guitar, but I rarely play it any more. As a guitarist, I automatically have more devices on the iPad, which is not so easy..
You describe the problems of using a new program and compare it with a program that you have been using blindly for years. Don't you think the problem will simply disappear over time? I'm sure it does. I‘m Logic user since it‘s very first version and iPads for a year now, and happy with both
Enjoyed your painfully honest approach about the iPad's limitations. I think the proposed future benefit for me as a professional credited recordered composer is getting away from the confines of the home studio to a (lol) park bench after a brisk walk, clearing my head and pulling out the pad and picking up where I left off. to date, I've used Jump Desktop to work this way and hopeful with the iPad software that the cloud storage quickens and pulls this all together. I'm hopeful for a more collaborative writing future as well with Apple devices. Thoughts?
I’ve been swapping projects back and forth between my iMac and iPad via iCloud and it’s literally instantaneous so something was ‘not quite right’ when you tried this I’d suggest. Since I am still using an Intel iMac I like how I can now easily share recordings from AUv3 plugins on the iPad that are only currently M1 supported. Similarly, if I want to drop a stem from say UVI Falcon into a track I’m developing on the iPad I can now do that more easily. I tend to do a lot of brainstorming on the iPad so I’ll probably invest in a 1-year annual subscription and device next steps at the end of that year.
My upload speed from my service provider has been really messed up lately,. It could have been that, but I'm not sure.
Just airdrop it
@@cured_bacon647 sure that option works as well but means you have 2 copies of the same project. There are several ways to share Logic projects between platforms...
Great video and awesome demo song! Here’s a tip : you could just AirDrop your LogicPro for iPad project to your Mac in a few seconds instead of uploading it to iCloud!
True. It syncs to iCloud automatically, so I thought I'd see how that workflow went.
Hi there. I appreciate your painfully honest opinion. I just purchased an iPad and I’m definitely thinking of buying or subscribing now Logic Pro. I’m painfully new to the whole DAW scene so I’m definitely researching what works best for me.
Thanks. My experience is that it takes time to get your head around another way of working. After working with it for several nights in a row I feel I can find my way around easily and produce tracks efficiently. I make electronic music and use Synthmaster one and 2, which produce desktop class sound on the iPad. This gives me hope for other manufacturers to port Serum, for example.
This is great for people who use mostly digital music.
Cool to see you make a song. Not sure it’s a video you’d want to make, but I would be fun to have a series of videos about the process of creating a song and what tech you’d need. I remember your headphone and mic videos were great.
That would be fun. I don't know how many people would want to watch, but I would enjoy it.
Just wrote my first song on Logic Pro with my iPad thru the UA Volt 2. Love it!
Thanks for the review on this! The song sounded very 90's to me and was very good as well! I really miss that era of music.
Thanks for the video using your actual workflow. Hopefully guitarists will be complimented more in future updates. Was informative - thank you!
The instrument library on iPad uses tags vs. the desktop version that has the type of instruments which I find a lot easier to find sounds.
That was cool. Thanks for sharing the experience.
I’ve just subscribed to Logic Pro iPad. I can’t see myself getting comfortable with it unless I can import all my shortcut keys from Logic Mac and use a mouse.
MacBook Air M1 is probably the answer for me.
Excellent video. If uploading a project to the cloud is slow for you, try Airdropping from your iPad to Mac (and vice versa). I use it all the time.
My biggest problem with Logic Pro for iPad is the lack of third-party plug-in support and you can’t import your own soundfont patches.
It's still early days.,
Great review. And I liked your demo. You pegged the era. I was thinking Toad the Wet Sprocketish. (I like them, not a slam).
Drummer sounds amazing.
Great video Jason very informative watching your creative process …
Good sounding song. I came here looking for a new iOS recording studio because Spire Studio limits my mixing/editing options but I still love how my track sounds. I didn’t want to fool with Garage Band. Plus it’s pretty huge. Was looking into Logic since you’ve mentioned it to see if I can use it on my iPhone.
Great video and enjoyable view of the new iPad version. Loved the song to
Man that tune jams! You have a little Minneapolis Power Trash in your blood man!
That and The Beatles were the soundtrack of my youth.
Very interesting, informative video 👍🏻. I'm a longtime user of Garageband on iPad/iPhone and have recently decided I'm ready to move up from that to something a bit more capable. However, I'm not interested in a subscription nor is my iPad Pro new enough to support LP so Cubasis is what I'm toying around with presently. Maybe at some point in the future when I get a newer iPad I'll look at Logic.
Great song! Also thanks for the mic info.
Nice video. Like you, as an old Logic for Mac user, I tried Logic for iPad and decided not to subscribe. The experience made me try out Logic Remote for iPad which is a free program from Apple. Logic Remote let’s you use an iPad for a lot of the user interface functions to control alógico running on your Mac. You can even use two iPads controlling different functions at the same time. I found Logic Remote to be more useful than alógica Oro for iPad.
Excellent excellent video, and excellent excellent song! So true that as songwriters we never often know where the inspiration will come from..be it the lyrics, or grooves., or from Up Above or whatever...We only need our tools to be easy to use, and not to get in the way and stifle the creativity. The drum tool in Logic sounded great, as the drums kick, and sound powerful. I would have enjoyed a few "in the process " audio clips prior to the finished song. The platforms we use to record the music are ultimately irrelevant, as getting the music or video completed with an enhancement of our creativity is a reasonable expectation from most of the modern DAWs and tools at our disposal. AI is also an incredible aid to this process. People sometimes laugh when I say that I use Band In The Box, to aid in my songwriting, because they don't know how good it's current capabilities are, but over the years it has become a fantastic idea generator. Any tool that works and helps us create is a winner as far as I am concerned,, and when Apple has a good product, they often make it a great one with their constant updates, and I think Logic Ipad will be a great one over time as they keep improving it. For people who need or want the portability, it's one of the only hi-level products around. For the final mix on the tune I might bring the vocals up a bit more in the mix. ( we can all be producers and engineers now with these excellent products.) This video was really a great demonstration of the power of TH-cam and the way it can be used to review and show us about a product in a really meaningful way.
well said - actually a good review without even seeing the the flow.
Awesome video dude!
Thanks! It was a fun "what can I do in an afternoon" project. Logic for iPad is pretty decent as a place to start. Don't know if I could use it in place of Logic for Mac or other DAWs.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I liked your song!
You are channeling Bob Mould or The Smithereens. I didn't know that Logic Pro's license includes lifetime updates. I am a Windows guy, but I have been an iPad user since the first version. I have Cubasis 3, though for making music on the iPad I mess around with Aum patches. For a bare-bones audio interface that is really good and not too pricey, I like the UAD Volt series.
nice recording,how did you do drums,sounds so good
I dug the song… shocked that I never heard a song like that until this video 🎸🎹🎼🎤
Sounded great! Sadly my 2017 IPad won’t run Logic for iPad…….so I’ll carry on with my MacBook Air!
You have to have an M1 iPad to use it, I believe.
@@thejasontlewis you an use one with the bionic chip too....
Answered a lot of my questions. Thanks much!
Happy to help!
Yeah! Cracking.
This is interesting. Love these kinds of videos that only focus on one thing in great detail!
Thanks. It was fun to make.
Great song ! love the vocal interlude in the middle. Is there a change of key in the song ?
No, it goes to E minor for the bridge, which is the relative minor of G. The song’s in G.
Thanks for this video. Gonna dig deep into this one
Would love to hear your thoughts after.
Love the song Jason.
First band that came to mind was the romantics , good song mang, for sure relatable
How strange, I bought a a new photography book yesterday called yesterday by Robert Freeman and it looks like you have the cover picture tattooed on your arm. Only clicked on as I’ve just downloaded Logic Pro for my iPad🤯🤯
This my first time to this channel and my favorite part is that this guy didn’t try to sell me a product instead gave his opinion on the product he’s using
Thanks for watching. Hope you come back again!
Very good song! Very well explained video. Subscribed. 😊
Thanks!
Love this kind of a video!
For the life of me I cannot get a remotely decent tone from anything in Amp Designer on logic for iPad. I know it’s not my guitar, cable, interface, headphone because I get fantastic tones with ToneStack. I can’t figure it out but I just cannot get a usable tone.
Sounds great! Which drum kit did you use?
Great sound J🤘
There’s only one thing that I would have done a bit different, and that’s the backup vocals.
I think they were a tiny bit too loud compaired to your main vocal.
Other than that, thumbs up👍👍🏿👍🏻👍🏽👍
That was a conscious choice. Not for everyone, for sure.
Since you've worked with Logic Pro on desktop for so long, perhaps you can answer this question...
Is there any way to turn off the Staff view in the MIDI note editing window? I only want to see the piano roll, never need to see the notes on a staff... for any reason! I'd be grateful if you have any tips or hints.
I don't ever see the staffs. Use 'Command + 4' to open that window. or just double click the midi you want to edit. You can also make your own Screenset and save whatever windows you want as a shortcut.
It definitely has a follow for the drummer.
A worthy effort, nice!
Thank you!
Keyboard and mouse are compatible with Ipad so what about that?
I did have to pair a keyboard after a while, but not a mouse. The mechanics of how those funtions work are made for touch, so it's weird.
Now with subcription base but with no, in built music notation, u can write on the fly with the pen?.i would like to write choral music..
Did I see you using your QWERTY keyboard to control the iPad? Was that Bluetooth or plugged into a hub? Can you use the mouse as well?
Bluetooth. And yes, you can use a mouse.
Thank you
@@thejasontlewis
Cool, was hoping you would do something on this, sucks its a subscription but it takes a lot to develop stuff of this caliber
Is m4 iPad pro enough for audio mixing ?
Fender FTW 🙂
HI! Its possible make sheet music in my iPad whit this app?
I don't know if the iPad app has that functionality.
You can also record tracks in GarageBand IOS and transfer it to LogicPro IOS☝️
Hi ….I’m a fingerstyle guitarist & a TH-camr I use to record on Logic Pro- IPAD WITH LEWITT LCT-240 condenser Mic + Acoustic guitar inbuilt pickup for ( 2 layers of recording) But still I’m not satisfied with the guitar output…. I think i m missing 3rd party VST effects like on Mac ……can u plz suggest how I can get better output ( specially for Fingerstyle cover recordings )
You have to know what plugins to pick. Logic's stock plugins are all pretty much based on well-known gear of the past. The stock compressor mimics all the different styles of compressors. The EQ as well. So do some research on the signal chains that have worked best for other folks.
Also, make sure you're mixing the guitar in the best way possible to get the sound you hear in your head. the sound of finger-style guitar close miccd (~12" away ) is much different than the sound of a good room and the guitar 3 feet away.
Also, make sure you're recording at a decent level (around -6db peak) and if you're blending the pickup and the mic sound, the pickup should barely be audible comparatively. Acoustic guitar pickups can be great for adding body and presence to the sound, but the sound terrible if you can actually hear them.
Hope that helps.
Loved the somg❤😊
Great video J, cool song.
Great video.
I use LP for iPad without a keyboard… Honestly, don’t know what’s the point of using the iPad with a keyboard in substitution for my MacBook.
I like touch the touch screen feel of the iPad simply because MacBooks lack the Touch Screen feature.
All my 3rd party plugins for Mac aren’t available on iPad. So I just connect my Microfreak and Brumdrute impact to my AI to my iPad and just record my jams…
Excellent song
If you connected your iPad to your Studio Display while using LOGIC PRO for iPad wouldn’t that have fixed your battery and space / screen size issues?
Maybe. It depends on whether the program can break out the different windows. And connecting the iPad to the Studio Display is buggy. Sometimes it works as an extended display and sometimes it mirrors the iPad display.
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How many of us use an Altoid box to store picks?
Soooo many
everyone i have seen reviewing it say mostly the same thing...they have been waiting forever for an ipad version of logic and then the final review is basically a big, meh. lol --- it's a hard pass for me, i always figured working on an ipad would be a hassle.
Love the content! Do you know how to make a track in mono? I tried on ipad but didnt find it
At the top of the channel fader stack.
@@thejasontlewis after the input it only gives me stereo option output I don’t know why
Had a shot on Garage band a few years back now. Didn't make the top 20 unfortunately.
I liked it. Kind of a Smithereens vibe.😊
I do know those guys. The drummer produced one of my records. Have always been a big fan.
Cool video
Drummers who have opinions probably aren’t just drummers, they most likely play other instruments as well. Trying to explain something to a guitar player can come across as an opinion.
The pricing is ridiculous. If you use Logic for another 20 years, the iPad version would cost $1,000, assuming that the price doesn't go up.
is that really that bad? 20 years is a long time, what do you pay for other software and hardware?
The subscription only aspect makes me nervous. Could this be coming to the Mac version of Logic next? Please God no!
If it does, there'll b e a lot people leaving.
Nice tune! Sounds a little like the Smithereens.
I know those guys. Dennis Diken, their drummer, produced a record I made a while back.
I tried like you used logic since emagic days ,won’t be subscribing it’s ok but not into subscriptions and all my favourite plug ins can’t be used. I think it’s a hobby version and the iPad just doesn’t feel like a proper device for serious work! I love the iPad for reading watching videos etc but the OS is lacking when it comes to heavy lifting! As a scratchpad it’s ok but £49 a year no thanks 😅
For me it’s a matter of preference. I make music on my phone and on the iPad and I know of many people who do and there are many instances of quality music that has been created on iPads.
I don’t view it as a scratch pad but, I know it’s dependant on the work one is doing and the workflow one prefers
@@KAMOYA17 Fair comment and respected everyone has their own way of doing things , but the big limitation at the moment for the iPad is the lack of plug ins. I can see touch interface benefits and i am sure it will get better in time it is still early days for the iPad in terms of professional apps!
@@Keyboardnut99 Lack of Plugins on iPad??
There are incredible amounts of plugins on the iPad - wake up!
@@ErrkaPetti how rude I know but not the same ones !
@@Keyboardnut99 Your comment that it lacks plugins on iPad stills a wrong statement…
Have you seen (and used) the plugins on iPad?
Fabfilter, Eventide, IK Multimedia etc etc…
There’s A LOT nowadays, and more on the way from Baby Audio and many other known companies…
I agree iPad seems logical but after 10 years it hasn’t totally happened…I am frustrated with learning logic it is so annoying…I will watch tutorial because it is seems to have some cool features
Have we heard from Cary yet?
Huh?
Enjoyed this........................But as an aside........ I have a Mac Pro sitting under my desk that cost me about $5,000.00 plus software. It may as well be a boat anchor because it can't use the updates that Apple so conveniently give away once one pays the one up cost as you point out. What's the point? They only give one updates for free to make one buy another computer. Bloody expensive updates I reckon having to spent thousands every five years for a new box.
You’re stuck in the sunk cost fallacy. You got what you paid for. It’s still operational. If you want new features you have to buy new stuff. No one expects the cool stuff from a brand new car for their 10 year old used car. But it still runs.
@@thejasontlewis You are right. I did get what I paid for, more fool me. I see your point but we have to compare apples with apples so to speak. Your car analogy enforces my point and lessens yours. I can strap on a turbo, upgrade the tyres, change the 'carby et al and the car runs. I could even attach a computer management system to run all the 'cool stuff'. ( Now there's a debate for another day) I can upgrade the engine and the windscreen wipers etc. etc.. I can't do the computer equivalent on an Apple computer because the hardware is made finite by the O.S. and nothing on my car is. I can change it all and it will run. Apple intentionally change the software to not run on existing hardware.
I'm comparing Microsoft and Apple, not cars and computers.
I did buy new 'stuff': 'it's called Windows 10 and Windows 11. (Sorry, got it all for free actually). All my software still runs on my new Win 11 partition that ran on Win 7. I can still update all my software and it runs. I only had to buy the software, not a whole new computer. I can't update Final Cut Pro, After Effects, Logic or even that nice little Garage Band app. My Apple 'sunk cost ' ( who thought up that groovy term) is no fallacy. I, in my ignorance, bought a Mac Pro without knowing it would be totally 'OBSOLETE" in five years.
Nothing I say here is a criticism of you. I don't know you other than by what you present yourself as to me. I would concede that you are probably much smarter than me, but hell, that would be very easy. Good luck in the future. That's all I've got to say about this. source: Forest Gump
I'm hearing some Smithereens influence.
They are friends of mine. Dennis Diken, their drummer, produced one of my records.
@@thejasontlewis Very cool! I will check it out!
I’m absolutely pissed off that I can’t save my composer/producer information using the iPad app… What a big miss that is.
In my opinion! If you own logic or final cut on you macbook 💻 is not worthy paying subscription for those limited apps.
No way am I subscribing to any DAW.
Better to BOYCOTT this product by Apple
before they try to start imposing subscriptions
on Logic Pro X for the MacBook and Mac Pro.
This is a ‘Test Run’ by Apple to ‘test the waters’.
If we let them get away with this now,
you should be aware of what the future will hold.
I recently walked away from Pro Tools for this very reason.
BOYCOTT each and every DAW Company
that attempts to impose subscriptions.
Spot on!
Typewriter jockeys are all whining about this or that but it’s all in your head . This is so great even in this first version. If you take a deep breath stop worrying about which plugin you can’t use ( yet) or what key command isn’t available. This is a touch device . It’s ten times more intuitive but your marriage to the Qwerty and mouse isn’t . It’s pointless to keep complaining because you guys with typewriters under your arms all resent having your exclusiveness threatened. You know people who Don’t resent this are seizing your missed opportunities in the field were your not stuck in front of your computer. Give it time you won’t regret it. The typewriter won’t be going into the future with us because it’s a boat anchor accessory. I’ve already paid for my Mac ultra twin with two gigs using Logic on the iPad Pro …cause it’s a game changer.✌️👽
Who are you talking to? Not sure you’re commenting on the right video.
It’s a game changer mainly in the sense that it’s only available to rent. Boycott this, because if Apple succeed with this all your desktop and other apps are next!
@@xray2785 the reason this happened is because developers of apps couldn’t continue unpaid for updates much less do Logic in a freaky new streamlined version . Remember audio-bus? Etc etc . And the other reason is exactly what you just said people who used the old version want it for free too including free updates and they are reluctant to use something without a QWERTY and mouse which are both right in front of your iPad Pro I noticed . They are also tracking how many people are using it ( the real reason it’s pay to play ) so if you want to see a one time pay version with paid updates ( a more realistic request) or one with an educational discount which I’m sure is in the works for students just like the desktop version is set up that way too. I’m glad this is available and you can still use the old version which was just updated for free so what’s the problem? Give it time and use it like you want to get to own …maybe apple will respond to positive reviews better than negative ones if they are to even consider what your saying this early …yes? 👽✌️
Stop talk do more...
Subscription model? DO NOT WANT.
Updates for Life ? No. After a couple years Logic teils you that your Computer or iOS does not meet requirements to run Logic. Than you have to buy a new Computer and pay Full price for the Version of Logic that Runs on this new Computer
Try to go to work instead
Not sure what this means.
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