Who Has The BETTER Bowling Attack, England or The Windies?👀🔥| Kimber & Harmy
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talkSPORT's Cricket editor and presenter Jon Norman sits down with former Durham and England cricket player Steve Harmison and cricket writer Jarrod Kimber to discuss all things cricket.
In today's episode, Kimber and Harmy discuss who has the better bowling attack ahead of the England vs Windies Test series.
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What on earth is Kimber talking regarding Shamar in the IPL? He literally played one IPL game on a road.
Ok but he sprayed it everywhere, wasn’t just that it was a road
@@rufioswitch2132He was bowling in in front of a massive crowd with next to zero T20 experience. It’s understandable that he felt the pressure and didn’t perform. Bowling in Tests is completely different. There is far less pressure when you know that the batsman isn’t going after you every ball.
@@thyikmnnnn ok but Kimber just stated facts, he was struggling badly on line and length. The comment I replied to said “it was a road” somehow blaming the pitch 😂. He’s inexperienced and unproven, and guys like that will always have big ups and downs. First test at Lords on the slope is not an easy or pressure-free place to play either. Kimber was just saying they can’t rely on him.
@@rufioswitch2132 Based on his debut he has every right to start.
@@ethancoster1324you guys are really struggling with basic comprehension. Kimber only says they’d be more nervous about Shamar playing because roach isn’t playing and he literally says “I still think he could be fantastic”. No one is saying he doesn’t play, just without roach there will be more pressure and he doesn’t have the proven control. The OP said Kimber was wrong about Shamar bowling badly in IPL because it was a road, but that has nothing to do with him bowling wides and long hops. Hopefully you can understand this comment without mis interpreting it.
I hope Shamar does well. The man's got fire and talent in spades.
It's a pity W.I can't field a decent batting lineup, I guess Hope not interested in test anymore,Pooran as a wicket keeper batsman coming in at 7 would be exciting to watch,would be great if we could ever see these guys
Mark my word this team will embarass england
It won't be a surprise or upset, especially when windies had won more tests in australia than whole of england in last decade
They only beat them in one test match and drew the series 1-1
They wouldn’t have one the series if it was 3 or 5 tests
@@CricketEngland Whatever, helps you to sleep at night
@@karthik_udaya look Australia won the first test by 10 wickets and then the West Indies scraped the second by 8 runs so no I can’t see them winning if the series was longer
@@karthik_udayaThe problem with these two test match series is you cant read as much in to them as if it is a four or five match series really can you thats all🤔 I was very surprised windies won a test match in australia and re this series who knows its interesting I am unsure what to make of england in test cricket at the minute and when you remove anderson and broad maybe the windies might fancy thier chances against us?
@@simonoliver8576 Even if england had played two test, they wouldn't have won a test in australia with medium trundlers like clouderson
You guys are smoking some good sheeeet over there. Explain to me how one drops Shamar after two tests, in which he had two 5-wicket hauls in each? Seales would have sat, simple.
Seals more experienced and better suited in English conditions.
@@nuhashahmed7692 This is all moot now, but there is no way a logical person drops a bowler with 13 wickets in his first two matches (and player of the AUS series) unless he is being replaced by someone like Marshall. Also, I am not sure how you arrive at the conclusion Seales is better suited to English conditions when Shamar hasn't bowled a single ball in said conditions.
I said the same thing after hearing this earlier.
@@Livermore1234 I'm not saying they should drop Shamar but they also need experience in that bowling line up and yes until I see someone play ofcourse I'm gonna pick the person that I've seen perform.
Can anyone explain why they are putting Anderson out to pasture but then keeping Woakes as the experienced bowler? I like Woakes but surely he isn’t going to Australia either?
Is it just the fact that they only want one old hand so they can bring through other bowlers?
Shouldn’t you just pick your best team until other bowlers force their way in?
Or are the Bazballers gonna demand flat pitches so their technically flawed batters can thrive and they figure poor old man Jimmy will just wear himself out on roads and get 0 for 80 odd?
It's odd, if they're thinking of Australia 16 months from now, they might have dropped Root ahead of Bairstow.
West indies have a better bowling line up but the England batsmen will play them better than the west indian batsman
Why I find England team incomplete without Anderson.. specially bowling weak.. his name was enough, let alone his bowling skills.. legend .. massive respect from India
Atkinson isn’t first choice for Surrey and his only attribute is a bit of pace so why is a second string county player selected for England? Keeping with Surrey and I’m sure there are many more skilful bowlers across the country but Worrall, Clarke and Lawes are for more dangerous than Atkinson in English conditions. You can add another ten bowlers across the counties. As you say the spinner situation is another bizarre selection. As H says the top three English batsman are a concern. Pope looks particularly fragile at the moment. Surely it can be no surprise that England is ninth in the test table considering their selection policy.
I have loved Roach for his whole career, but I really don’t think he’s at the level anymore. He’s lost his mojo over the last couple of years, as so many do at his age. This series might have been the last where he had some success in good conditions for him and it’s a shame he’s missing.
Without Jimmy, I'll give the edge to the WI bowling attack. The big concern is their batters.
@@David-jj9wc well the WI bowlers really showed England how good they were against Australia 🤣🤣🤣
What about Tom Hartley? Why are we forgetting him so quickly? I think he is already better than Jack Leach!
they want bashir more than him because they want him to replicate nathan lyon's role
@@dm-pj7cp Bashir strategy is great. Basically he can get batters, not via spin but via boredom of his long spells.
I'm baffled by the selectors choosing either. There are at least 7or 8 better English spinners in the Counties. The County records of Hartley and Bashir are awful. They failed in India: does no-one get that? On spinners wickets they averaged in the mid 30s. Anyone will pick up some wickets because of uneven bounces. Their Indian counterparts averaged 10 runs per wicket less. Over 5 tests that 900 or so runs, the margin between winning and losing the series. And they bowled badly: far too many loose balls, Try someone else! On top of that I hear all of the pundits going on about tall bowlers getting bounce. Yes Ashwin is tall but the other Indian spinners arent plus, as mentioned, the ball stays low in India. Ashwin is poor outside of India. The only great tall spinners were O'Reilly and Verity and Verity didn't do well in Oz. Just more lazy punditry.
@@hectorlp1298 Spinners have to be nurtured. Case in point: Ashwin. During start of his career, he was bad outside India. However his recent tours of Aus and Eng have yielded success.
Then players like Hartley and Bashir goes with Eng strategy of choosing bowlers coz they can bat.
Plus look at height factor of English openers as well. Zak is taller, Ducket is shorter. Eng will get advantage as bowlers will have to adjust their length accordingly. Top sides will adapt to this change. Mid sides will yield advantage to Eng. Same case with bowlers.
@@hectorlp1298 As young bowlers they're meant to be inconsistent, this is a given. However they had some great spells through out the series which is why England were able to be somewhat competitive in India in more than a decade.
harmison looks like tyson fury
😀😀😂
englands batting line up is far superior tho which will matter in ez bowling conditions
If this team can beat Australia in Australia, they can beat eng also
They only beat them in one test match and drew the series 1-1
They wouldn’t have one the series if it was 3 or 5 tests
@@CricketEngland how do you say that with so much confidence lol? is it because your heart can't take the fact that wi has managed to do something england hasn't done in a decade, which is winning a test match in aus?
@@dm-pj7cp
it’s was only a meaningless 2 game series that’s all
Australia are a far better side that the WI and would easily beat them over a longer series after all they hardly thrashed Australia they only won by 8 runs you know
@@dm-pj7cpand after all Australia won by 10 wickets in the first test
The series was not even close
@@CricketEngland you’re just discrediting them because you’re sour that england haven’t won a test match there in a decade. you never know the momentum they got from the second match could’ve made them win the third match too. just assuming
WI have the better naturally talented bowlers. But England has the better infrastructure to max their talents
Sorry to burst y’all bubble Shamar will definitely play 😂
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Athanaze scores in one place? I love to watch England lose just because of how they are dismissive of other nations that are not Aus or India.
roach ain't playing injured
You guys forgot that this West Indies team beat Australia in Australia and I think that experience will help.
They beat Aus in one test match in a 2 test series. I think WI is capable of stealing one test, especially given the careless nature of English batting and the quality of WI bowlers. But I highly doubt they can win anything more than that.
They only beat them in one test match and drew the series 1-1
They wouldn’t have one the series if it was 3 or 5 tests
@@chungking5177 still think the WI are gonna win ?
Eng shud score 500 plus on first day..
Gudl luck 🏴🏴
Has Harmison forgotten archer exists, surely they’re hoping he’ll be playing test cricket in 18 months?
What about josh tongue
Out with injury
Atkinson is fantastic? erm is he?
@@TRIGMASTER06 Atkinson has just go the best figures on debut for an English bowler that’s why
Roach is a real loss.
"Surprise England" as if England are any good lmfaoooo 😭😭😭
@@arbabasukalsar4361 you are watching the first day of the first test ?
England have better bowlers and will win easily, this is just talking to fill time lol
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