Most metal gear villains: "my plans have a bigger role to fill but I am no monster..." Sundowner: "yeah I've definitely committed a war crime or two, sue me."
The mainline canon: War. Hoo, yeah. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing. MGR storyline: The time has come for me, to try to overcome and do what is right for the world to see.
@@KaygeeFromNanotrasen "Truth or dare" "Truth" "What's your favorite war crime?" "Hmm, terrorism, truth or dare" "Dare" "Fight a cyborg twink in combat heels, using a pair of safety scissors." WHEN THE WIND IS SLOW, AND THE FIRE'S H-
As a northern Californian, i can tell you that during raging wildfires, the sun is colored blood red when viewed through the smoke, and the light that it shines down tints everything with a gold color.
When I experienced my first large wildfire back in 2008, I was in the 5th grade and we just learned about space and the life cycle of solar systems. I legit thought that the Sun entered it's red giant phase and had an existential crisis at just 10 years old. At the time, I didn't know large amounts of smoke makes the sun look different.
So what your saying is... WHEN THE WIND IS SLOW, AND THE FIRES HOT, THE VULTURE WAITS, TO SEE WHAT ROTS. OH HOW NAM PRETTY, ALL THE SCENERY THIS IS NATURE'S SACRIFICE!
How’s an honest warmonger supposed to make a livin!? Geez, no surprise that Sundowner is Senator Armstrong’s #2 Also, fun fact: Sundowner actually kept about 80% of his original skeletal structure in his cyborg conversion. Minuano (Jetstream Sam): Was 100% now 90% (arm got cut off) Mistral: 40% (Skull and torso skeletal structure). Monsoon: 10% (Skull and upper spine)
@@damien4357 but this actualy negate fact that his cyborg body is basicly heavy armor. Even on his shoulder is written that his armor is blade proof. Real thing why Sundowner have such low hp and has canceled fucking invincible on 1 phase is because before his fight we must fight Moonson and Mistral again, and for some this is pain again. After fight with them Also we don't have that much nanopaste we can find. So they make him easier because of that. If not that fight before Sundowner he probably would be fucking invincible at first phase forcing US to cut off his shilds to eventualy do something to him (when he Fall from building After defeat ing him In his first phase he Fall with combined Blood lust and closed visior from phase 2 So orginaly we musted to cut his shild of) and he probably would be second haracter with most health
This is too similar with big boss'speech at the end of metal gear 2, he talks about taking orphan childrens from the warfare, giving them a home, and then throwing them at another war now that they are loyal to you, it's not exactly that, but it's basically it
Eden isn't just "another name for earth" it's biblically a depiction of paradise. "Machines come to transform Eden", in Sundowner's theme, is about how machinery and cyborgs have come to transform the battlefield, his personal paradise, and eventually himself, The Blood Red Sun
Some good theory suggest that Sundowner was originally planned to be some kind of industrialist in the game, but was changed to be an outright warmonger
I like to think that it means that he's willing to destroy an absolute and perfect utopia for the sake of seeing it destroyed. Like: "Yeah, we can have the paradise, but we don't want that, human nature demands BLOOD" xd
@@reitanthekiller I feel more the line implies that the Machines are evolving the battlefield, his personal eden. As when the flow of information was no longer stifled and even prior as these new technologies such as nanotechnology and high frequency weaponry was becoming more commonplace, that his paradise began to change even more; leading into the next line, "Only love is with us now, something warm and pure. Find the peace within ourselves, no need for a cure." It means that though he is more machine than man, a part of that human spark is alive. He's at peace with what he's become however and thinks that since he's acting the way Mankind was meant to, he was never in the wrong
Correction: Eden was the holy of holies in God's temple, the _garden of Eden_ being situated just outside said inner sanctum in God's cosmic temple, ie the Earth. In the ancient Near East, temple gardens were where a temple's resident priests grew their own food and certain plants used in temple rituals. In a sense, Adam and Eve, themselves acolytes of the temple, _were squatting outside God's bedroom._ The centrality of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden also implies its use in the rituals of God's temple, and He said "you may not eat of that tree," rather than "never." Together, these cast Original Sin as an act of cosmic blasphemy and violation of temple law, wherein two temple initiates tried to partake of the deeper mysteries of the temple's cult before being properly initiated. Such offenses in the ancient world typically resulted in excommunication, exile, or death (for Adam and Eve, all three). As for Sundowner and the cybernetic nightmares he represents, I think a far better parallel could be drawn with the nephilim, the abominable hybrid offspring of fallen angels and humans. While only mentioned fleetingly in the Bible itself, a number of pseudocanonical texts indicate that these ravenous, brutal giants were generally held by the Israelites to have been one of the leading causes of the Great Flood, and many of the evils of the world were generally conceived of as ghosts or echoes of the nephilim after God's angelic host annihilated them.
Ok I was gonna comment on us having literally the same TH-cam feed but that quote is honestly really good. I've actually been getting back into combat sports and it's an interesting dichotomy. Everyone instinctively knows the basics of fighting and thinks they can fight yet as animals we also evolved so that fighting isn't the norm for us so fighting is very alien to get into. Like we have the urge to punch someone in the face when they piss us off but in terms of actually taking hits, throwing a punch, etc we are horrible. Hence we train ourselves to use our bodies as weapons. But it's this self fellating snake. Because the only reason we train so get stronger is because someone is better than us, but by training you are becoming better and better than your peers and thus serving as the motivation for other to train. So much in human psychology is just this feedback loop of monkey see monkey do.
@@dabreadman9677 kojima had almost nothing to do with mgr but knowing konami's history of not giving people what they want (why haven't we not gotten the demon Castle war Castlevania game yet?) The chance is still low
You know if Sundowner met Guts from Berserk, he'd want to steal Guts' Berserker armor just because he'd be so enamored by it's abilities to allow Sundowner to keep slaughtering despite the amount of damage he's taking.
When I downloaded all of Sundowners voice clips the “I’m fuckin’ Invincible” line was the only one that was named, out of every character as well not just Sundowner. This line is really that funny.
One of the best moments for me is the pause in "I want him... dead". It's like Sundowner sees killing Nmani as such an obvious move, that he's genuinely dumbfounded for a second, when Raiden asks him about his intentions. As if he says "obviously" in his head in place of that pause
Can we just take a moment to talk about what a brilliant line "Kids are cruel, and I'm very in touch with my inner child" is? Not only does it fuse together two well-known phrases, it does so in a way that completely subverts the original meanings of both into something new that fits Sundowner perfectly.
"You can defeat some bosses before they even reach the 2nd phase" I managed to kill sundowner literally by only the normal blade because the ERA annoyed me so much. If force is not effective, you're not using enough force.
Lol I couldn't figure out how to remove sundowner shields so I just brute forced my way through it and kept using nanokits to heal. That was the second hardest fight I had in the game
Mistral- A young yet aimless youth looking for a greater purpose that fulfills her bloody outlook on life… Monsoon- A wise yet nihilistic zen who believes that all are the way they should be, no matter how hard we try changing it… Sundowner- A charismatic, openly honest, yet a simple minded man-child who believes that conflict is what helps makes humans “express” themselves to one another… Sam- A wondering samurai who lost identity and ideals to forces that he couldn’t cut down, and becomes nothing more but a new tool for those sinister forces until someone else completes the fight that he failed to do himself… Armstrong- A man who wants to create a nation for those who want to fight for what THEY believe in without any rules holding them back, NO MATTER THE COST…
So I just saw "The Glory of Jetstream Sam" in my recommendations and thought to myself:"Maybe Meti has posted a new video about MGR." And look, there is one about funny 9/11 invincible childman
4:04 Considering Bloodlust becomes usable in Rising after defeating Sundowner, I guess you could say Raiden got the scissors (61) that the A.I. Colonel was asking for.
I cannot emphasize enough just what a treat it is to have an unrepentantly evil character in a story and have it make perfect sense and be beleivable, without sacrificing one iota of depth! That's practically unheard of, especially in the age of trying to make every character sympathetic no matter how little sense it makes or how badly it fits.
Sundowner and Sam were the best characters in the game imo. I actually loved Sundowner's boss fight mostly because of the setting and the soundtrack. There's just something about fighting a boss on a roof while it's raining.
Sundowner, Sam, Monsoon and Armstrong are equally awesome. I can’t decide who I love more because none of them have a severe lack of character development like many other game characters.
“So the others have been spouting their philosophical bullshit, huh? Bunch of pussys. I’m gonna spare you the shit, I FUCKING LOVE KILLING PEOPLE FOR MONEY!!! I LIKE TO BATHE IN THE BLOOD OF MY ENEMIES!!!”
Mistral: The battlefield is my real home. Monsoon: Pain is what makes us human. Sam: I lost who I was on my climb to glory. Sundowner: MO' WAR CRIMES EQUALS MO' MONEY!
Crispin Freeman NAILED this voice. Cruel without being melodramatic, compelling even when talking about war; badass even in death...all from the guy who played Winston in Overwatch."Peanut butler's a part of who we are!"
If you think about it the "memes" of the Game (scientifically and in a joke sense) succeeded to be passed into a new generation. I love watching this Game get tons of love after all these years. You guys are awesome. Cheers from Spain
Usually, the first playtrough goes like this: "Did you learn to parry, you filthy casual?" "Uuuuuhm no-" "TOO BAD!!" *gets clapped by Monsoon* 27 tries later... "I've finally learnt! You're down to 40.0%!!" *lyrics start playing* "Uh oh" "I have WON this!" "Shit!!!" And in Revengeance: "So, do you still remember how to parry, you filthy casual?" "Casual?! I've fully S-Ranked Very Hard, I can do this all day." "Oh... Well, then- It doesn't matter! Your enemy will be the camera!!!" "FFFUUUUUUUUUUU!!!"
Meti: Talks about the history of Machetes being turned into weapons of war. Also Meti: shows clips of Kukris instead of Machetes. Now I'm just confused.
My first time playing this game (pretty recently) I beat sundowner and I watched the uzaki anime right after, it goes to say how surprised I was when they referenced him
Fun fact, There is another character who wears reactive armour for protection as well. In metal gear acid 2, Harab Serap, the game's first boss has reactive armour worn around his fatigue trousers so it looks like a skirt. As a result, grenades and other explosions cannot affect him. He can also rocket punch you with his flesh hands and can regenerate new ones.
Little fun fact his swords have more in common (in design) with executioner swords. A two handed weapon with a square or extremely rounded tip designed to well.... take someone's head off
Real life events kind of gave me a different interpretation of Red Sun. I live in California and the fires that took place uncomfortably close to where I live changed the way the sun looked. With the smoke filling the air, the sun and atmosphere was pretty much red. There was also an ominous warm wind threatening to blow the embers of fire onward to other areas of dead and dry vegetation. With that said, this became my interpretation of Red Sun: The hot wind blows, filled with fire and death. The vultures fly overhead, eyeing the easy pickings of the dead left on the ground. The smoke and fire of the battlefield has turned the sun blood red and that red sun shines over his idea of paradise, The chaos and destruction of war.
Metal Gear Rising is perhaps one of my favorite games and the boss fights are thought provoking. Even if you just met them once, you learn so much about their ideologies and morals before the fight begins Even if it's a spin-off, it still fits inside the story telling of Metal Gear franchise
I like all of the music in MGR. However, I knew there was some reason why I liked "Red Sun" the most out of all of them. Sundowner was a great villain in my opinion. And while he may not be as difficult as Sam or Armstrong, I thought his fight was fun for what it was. He didn't want money or fame, he simply liked killing people and saw it as a passion. Sundowner was a good old fashioned, bloodthirsty, bully. Sometimes a villain doesn't have to be complex, they just need a direct motive.
I agree. Sundowner is a character who can be flat-out evil, laugh about the murder he commits, look over the dissected brains of thousands of children ready to be implanted into a cyborg body, and other assorted crimes... and yet be one of the most charismatic, honest, and outright enjoyable villains of a story. It's hard to make an unrepentant scumbag like Sundowner come across as entertaining to the point that you both love _and_ hate them. A good deal of villains will just make you hate them. But Sundowner manages to do both. You end up loving how evil he is, and he doesn't BS you about hidden motivations. He even describes himself as an "honest warmonger" trying to make a living. War is his common purpose, and that's what he loves. This game is pretty great because of its big players with hidden agendas. Mistral wanting to find a place where a killer like her belongs. Monsoon being a slave to his nihilistic, defeatist views and bleak memes. Sam simply lacking the motivation to carry any form of ideal. And especially Armstrong, who believes that everyone should stand up for their beliefs no matter the cost, and control their destinies. Not Sundowner, though. He just wants to wage war for fun, and believes that war is just something natural to humans. He never hides behind it or try to justify why he does evil things. He's pretty much, "Yeah, I wanna start wars because I have a lot of fun killing people and going to war." That, my friends, is how you turn an awful excuse for a human being into a truly compelling villain.
The part "The reptile tail ripped from its back" makes me think of when Raiden cuts up the enemy cyborgs and rips their the spines out. I mainly thought this because if you were to call a person "a reptile" you'd be saying they aren't human and cyborgs aren't completely human. I know that's not what the song is saying, but it's cool thought
At 8:24, a lyric references "machines come to transform Eden, day by day." The info on-screen claims that Eden is another name for Earth, but I believe that this line in particular may be in reference to the Garden of Eden, a place of peace originating from the beginning of the Christian Bible, in the book of Genesis. Eden was supposedly taken from mankind after the first sin was committed; in relation to the song's lyrics, I feel that the intended reference is that Sundowner is taking away people's peace by transforming their "Garden of Eden" into a bloody warzone. Just my speculative take on the lyric.
For the character whose only defining trait I remembered is being Fucking Invincible, it's incredible to hear the comprehensive analysis about everything in his design. Well done.
I feel like Sundowner is underated, his design is great, have the six arms to deflect, swords that can turn into a claw, and a mask like Sam and Raiden
I've heard that his name could also represent a syndrome known as ''Sundowner's Syndrome'' , which is most common in Dementia patients . Which basically gives the patient(s) worse symptoms at night , then on daytime . This might represent his battle with Raiden semi-perfectly . Please take this with a grain of salt , just in case .
This is pretty exquisite, glad to see you doing MG stuff still. Love every video you do lad, keep being FUCKIN INVINCIBLE as always!!!! Also it's always impressive how you manage to do these actually working lines with all words starting with the same letter, criative stuff. Cheers from Brazil !
Can I just say the child brains stuck in little casings with eyeballs is truly one of the most nightmarish things I have ever seen in media? Like holy fuck I'm just having a good time vibing and then THAT happens. I guess it's not so bad when you consider they were all gonna get cool cyborg bodies anyway, right..? *right..?*
Had to watch immediately. You're one of the main reasons why I played MGR, I just got it 3 weeks ago and it's absolutely spectacular, love almost every aspect of the game.
The most honest villain in the series is being used by a guy who wants to use war economy the finally end it. That is why these characters are so great.
8:23 personally I always interpreted the machine as being raiden since he is a cyborg, coming at full speed towards their organization leaving a path behind him of death that pulls the attention of sundowner and the others from the group. And Eden being the desperados group itself, his little murderous paradise where he was indeed, INVINCIBLE.
war crimes and war: exist sundowner: this. this is my favorite thing. I think about this every day. I lose sleep at night because of me thinking of this.
11:17 This scene sent a chill down my spine the first time I played the game, because I have clear memories of the pro-Iraq War crowd using this exact slogan back during the Bush II Years.
love to think at the begging of mgr sam was just like “you wanna go to liberia to kill like 50 people including the senator lol” and sundowner was just like “yeah sure”
I can’t help but feel like Sundowner was also somewhat inspired by Judge Holden from Blood Meridian. Both are giant hulking hairless dudes who are obsessed with war
Be grateful he at least died while being in character unlike what others claimed he wasn't. The dude was pure chaotic evil and always loved war. He died like a true hero. Loving what he liked.
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but the fact that Sundowner wields a pair of scissors might also reference his line about being in touch with his inner child, since children use scissors.
I've never played this game, nor do I have any plans to, but I do want to know about some of the characters that occasionally pop up in the memes I see and with some of the best boss music I've ever heard. I think this video does a great job at teaching people what a character is like even if they have 0 prior context. So well done.
"Red Sun" may also be a reference to Blood Meridian; or, The Evening Redness in the West which is a 1985 epic historical novel by American author Cormac McCarthy. The character Sundowner is very similar to the character Judge Holden who is described as a large, hairless, pale, man who has a deep love for war and violence.
I was watching Wendigoon’s video on Blood Meridian and found that the Judge is kinda similar to sundowner. He’s tall, bald, does weird things with kids and believes that brutal murder and violence are the most pure and moral things a person can do.
“Sundowners syndrome” is also a commonly used term. Many older people experiencing cognitive decline become noticeably worse after the sunset. A person may be pleasant and stable during the day, but with sundowners actually start raving and crying and screaming that same night.
The ‘rising red sun’ is actually a reference to Sundowner’s past as a warmonger - the red sun is a term used for the mushroom cloud of a nuclear explosion. If you listen to the lyrics of the song it actually makes a lot more sense like that.
Interestingly enough, with themes involving superpowers, we gauge their potential based on how destructive they can be or how well they can undo others.
Apologies if somebody has mentioned this already, but another reference to his name and "Red Sun" US Navy Squadron VF-111 are called the "Sundowners", and their aircraft tails have the rising sun painted on them. Wouldn't doubt there's some inspiration for his name and rising sun motifs from there as well.
What's crazy is his theme is actually kind of poetic but is a story about effectively not caring anymore,he knows he's long since lost his mind but accepts it and embraces the violence because in his eyes blood spilt under the sun is beautiful in some strange way
Most metal gear villains: "my plans have a bigger role to fill but I am no monster..."
Sundowner: "yeah I've definitely committed a war crime or two, sue me."
psycho mantis be like : i burned my whole home village cause my dad was mad at me
Volgin: haha Davy Crockett joke, get it *fires a fucking handheld nuke*
I gotta say, i love his honesty, he's such a good character.
All villains in this game are, fuckin amazing
The mainline canon: War. Hoo, yeah. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
MGR storyline: The time has come for me, to try to overcome and do what is right for the world to see.
Sundowner shredded all original documents pertaining to the Geneva Convention a and used them to roll a cigar he shared with Armstrong
A wise man before death said once.
"I'm fucking invincible!!!!"
The jock from final destination 3?
Jk
That one hero from *title card*
Boris Grishenko from James Bond Golden Eye
Abraham Lincoln?
The irony
I love sundowner's and Sam's "idiot's smiles"
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Uncanny Smiles is what makes every MGR villain for me tbh
“Problem?”
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Other villains: *Long justification for killing innocents*
Sundowner: When you commit war crimes
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I wanna see Sundowner and Jack Horner interact...
@@stewiegriffin8002 truly a debate for the ages; although I imagine it just boiling down to the two agreeing on horrific crimes against humanity
@@KaygeeFromNanotrasen "Truth or dare"
"Truth"
"What's your favorite war crime?"
"Hmm, terrorism, truth or dare"
"Dare"
"Fight a cyborg twink in combat heels, using a pair of safety scissors."
WHEN THE WIND IS SLOW, AND THE FIRE'S H-
@@WestGarbage6 so true
@@WestGarbage6ah yes, “safety” scissors
I wish Boris in the middle of the fight would just say: "Watch out, Raiden! He's fucking invincible!"
The world would be a slightly better place if this was a thing.
and right after Sundowner would say the line
"The part where he's fucking invincible"
"He's blyat invincible"
@@hollow6189 our names are incredibly similar
As a northern Californian, i can tell you that during raging wildfires, the sun is colored blood red when viewed through the smoke, and the light that it shines down tints everything with a gold color.
Especially with all the shit that happened last year, after the stupid gender reveal wildfires and whatnot
When I experienced my first large wildfire back in 2008, I was in the 5th grade and we just learned about space and the life cycle of solar systems. I legit thought that the Sun entered it's red giant phase and had an existential crisis at just 10 years old. At the time, I didn't know large amounts of smoke makes the sun look different.
western Oregon relates
So what your saying is...
WHEN THE WIND IS SLOW, AND THE FIRES HOT, THE VULTURE WAITS, TO SEE WHAT ROTS. OH HOW NAM PRETTY, ALL THE SCENERY THIS IS NATURE'S SACRIFICE!
Wait its natures sacrifice? I though it said "this was patriot sacrifice".
"Africa's Is Just Getting Too Peaceful"
-Sundowner
Putin: I think we would be friends.
Also putin: Europe is getting a little bit peaceful.
@@revoltkillallhumans5763 And another joke is out of place
How’s an honest warmonger supposed to make a livin!? Geez, no surprise that Sundowner is Senator Armstrong’s #2
Also, fun fact:
Sundowner actually kept about 80% of his original skeletal structure in his cyborg conversion.
Minuano (Jetstream Sam): Was 100% now 90% (arm got cut off)
Mistral: 40% (Skull and torso skeletal structure).
Monsoon: 10% (Skull and upper spine)
So the THICC IS MOSTLY NATURAL??
O_o
This makes sense, actually he has lower health compared to Mistral and Monsoon. Despite the fact that he looks like he could take multiple hits.
@@Ramsey276one Sundowner or Sam?
@@Abdega this vid is Sundowner so...
O///o
@@damien4357 but this actualy negate fact that his cyborg body is basicly heavy armor. Even on his shoulder is written that his armor is blade proof.
Real thing why Sundowner have such low hp and has canceled fucking invincible on 1 phase is because before his fight we must fight Moonson and Mistral again, and for some this is pain again.
After fight with them Also we don't have that much nanopaste we can find.
So they make him easier because of that.
If not that fight before Sundowner he probably would be fucking invincible at first phase forcing US to cut off his shilds to eventualy do something to him (when he Fall from building After defeat ing him In his first phase he Fall with combined Blood lust and closed visior from phase 2 So orginaly we musted to cut his shild of) and he probably would be second haracter with most health
"Kids you can mold, manipulate into doing all kinds of atrocities, and there's nothing like a good atrocity to keep a war going!"
-Sundowner
This is too similar with big boss'speech at the end of metal gear 2, he talks about taking orphan childrens from the warfare, giving them a home, and then throwing them at another war now that they are loyal to you, it's not exactly that, but it's basically it
"Kids are cruel, Jack. And I love minors!"
-Sundowner
JUST LIKE THE GOOD OL DAYS AFTER NINE ELEVEN!
@@makesthemusic6340
wait a minute, nine eleven is bad
“I’M FUCKING INVINCIBLE” -Sundowner, not even a couple minutes before his death
Eden isn't just "another name for earth" it's biblically a depiction of paradise. "Machines come to transform Eden", in Sundowner's theme, is about how machinery and cyborgs have come to transform the battlefield, his personal paradise, and eventually himself, The Blood Red Sun
Some good theory suggest that Sundowner was originally planned to be some kind of industrialist in the game, but was changed to be an outright warmonger
I like to think that it means that he's willing to destroy an absolute and perfect utopia for the sake of seeing it destroyed. Like: "Yeah, we can have the paradise, but we don't want that, human nature demands BLOOD" xd
@@reitanthekiller I feel more the line implies that the Machines are evolving the battlefield, his personal eden. As when the flow of information was no longer stifled and even prior as these new technologies such as nanotechnology and high frequency weaponry was becoming more commonplace, that his paradise began to change even more; leading into the next line, "Only love is with us now, something warm and pure. Find the peace within ourselves, no need for a cure." It means that though he is more machine than man, a part of that human spark is alive. He's at peace with what he's become however and thinks that since he's acting the way Mankind was meant to, he was never in the wrong
I think it may be both as a double meaning
Correction: Eden was the holy of holies in God's temple, the _garden of Eden_ being situated just outside said inner sanctum in God's cosmic temple, ie the Earth. In the ancient Near East, temple gardens were where a temple's resident priests grew their own food and certain plants used in temple rituals. In a sense, Adam and Eve, themselves acolytes of the temple, _were squatting outside God's bedroom._ The centrality of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil in the garden also implies its use in the rituals of God's temple, and He said "you may not eat of that tree," rather than "never." Together, these cast Original Sin as an act of cosmic blasphemy and violation of temple law, wherein two temple initiates tried to partake of the deeper mysteries of the temple's cult before being properly initiated. Such offenses in the ancient world typically resulted in excommunication, exile, or death (for Adam and Eve, all three).
As for Sundowner and the cybernetic nightmares he represents, I think a far better parallel could be drawn with the nephilim, the abominable hybrid offspring of fallen angels and humans. While only mentioned fleetingly in the Bible itself, a number of pseudocanonical texts indicate that these ravenous, brutal giants were generally held by the Israelites to have been one of the leading causes of the Great Flood, and many of the evils of the world were generally conceived of as ghosts or echoes of the nephilim after God's angelic host annihilated them.
"Like I said, kids are cruel, Jack. And I'm very in touch with my inner child."
-Sundowner
uhh fbi?
Lines like than make me regret not paying attention to like half the cast on my first play through.
Ok I was gonna comment on us having literally the same TH-cam feed but that quote is honestly really good.
I've actually been getting back into combat sports and it's an interesting dichotomy. Everyone instinctively knows the basics of fighting and thinks they can fight yet as animals we also evolved so that fighting isn't the norm for us so fighting is very alien to get into. Like we have the urge to punch someone in the face when they piss us off but in terms of actually taking hits, throwing a punch, etc we are horrible. Hence we train ourselves to use our bodies as weapons. But it's this self fellating snake. Because the only reason we train so get stronger is because someone is better than us, but by training you are becoming better and better than your peers and thus serving as the motivation for other to train.
So much in human psychology is just this feedback loop of monkey see monkey do.
how the fuck are you everywhere?
@@optimalshay8209 bc he’s cringe
Best manchild. Showed him a good time.
RIP Rising 2.
Sad that the metal gear series is as good as gone
wait why is there no hope for rising 2
@@swordslash8 basically, konami broke up with kojima. Technically there's still a small chance that mgr 2 may come out but definetely no other mgs
@@dabreadman9677 And metal gear survive was so bad that I can't see another metal gear game coming out for a while
@@dabreadman9677 kojima had almost nothing to do with mgr but knowing konami's history of not giving people what they want (why haven't we not gotten the demon Castle war Castlevania game yet?) The chance is still low
You know if Sundowner met Guts from Berserk, he'd want to steal Guts' Berserker armor just because he'd be so enamored by it's abilities to allow Sundowner to keep slaughtering despite the amount of damage he's taking.
@The Flying Kalamari BUT HE'S INVINCIBLE
@@NRVNQSRR *FUCKING INVINCIBLE
@@sailorquestion3229
I dunno he seemed pretty
*VINCIBLE* to me
@@Why1sThisAthing *F A M I L Y*
@The Flying Kalamari he'd certainly try. Even if he has to rip it off Gut's body as they fight.
"I'm f*cking invincible!" - Sundowner
Invincible is only 17 years old
As it turned out, he was not, f*cking invincible
When I downloaded all of Sundowners voice clips the “I’m fuckin’ Invincible” line was the only one that was named, out of every character as well not just Sundowner. This line is really that funny.
@@assassinonprozac what do u mean downloaded their voice clips? And that IM FUCKING INVINCIBLE line was named?
it gives me great joy that people are still talking about revengeance
Same.
we're all going to turn to stone before we get a sequel man
@@mercury2157 Does it really need a sequel?
It's a great game
Armstrong did nothing wrong.
WE’RE ALL SONS OF THE PATRIOTS NOW!
BULLSHET
WE’RE ALL sus OF THE PATRIOTS NOW!
@@TheStripeTailedFiend ayo
WE CAN SPREAD THEIR MEMES OURSELVES
la li lu le lo
One of the best moments for me is the pause in "I want him... dead". It's like Sundowner sees killing Nmani as such an obvious move, that he's genuinely dumbfounded for a second, when Raiden asks him about his intentions. As if he says "obviously" in his head in place of that pause
Can we just take a moment to talk about what a brilliant line "Kids are cruel, and I'm very in touch with my inner child" is?
Not only does it fuse together two well-known phrases, it does so in a way that completely subverts the original meanings of both into something new that fits Sundowner perfectly.
"You can defeat some bosses before they even reach the 2nd phase"
I managed to kill sundowner literally by only the normal blade because the ERA annoyed me so much. If force is not effective, you're not using enough force.
Use a gun, and if that don’t work?
Use more gun.
That sounds like something Sundowner would say
Lol I couldn't figure out how to remove sundowner shields so I just brute forced my way through it and kept using nanokits to heal. That was the second hardest fight I had in the game
@@shadowyt3769 i didnt know you could break his shields so i just avoided his shields and killed him in phase 1 lol
I one shot sundowner on revengeance mode :)
Mistral- A young yet aimless youth looking for a greater purpose that fulfills her bloody outlook on life…
Monsoon- A wise yet nihilistic zen who believes that all are the way they should be, no matter how hard we try changing it…
Sundowner- A charismatic, openly honest, yet a simple minded man-child who believes that conflict is what helps makes humans “express” themselves to one another…
Sam- A wondering samurai who lost identity and ideals to forces that he couldn’t cut down, and becomes nothing more but a new tool for those sinister forces until someone else completes the fight that he failed to do himself…
Armstrong- A man who wants to create a nation for those who want to fight for what THEY believe in without any rules holding them back, NO MATTER THE COST…
Don’t forget, Armstrong use to play college ball ya know
@@peepeepoopoo7724 he could've gone pro if he hadn't joined the navy
@@peepeepoopoo7724 at some cushy ivy league school?
@@_s-p-e-c-t-r-a_music_ He tried Universe of Texas.
He's not one of those beltway pansies
Ah yes, pepsi man’s biggest opponent, sunny D
LOVE THIS
XD
Y'know what? Just take my like already 😂😂
This is PERFECT
So I just saw "The Glory of Jetstream Sam" in my recommendations and thought to myself:"Maybe Meti has posted a new video about MGR." And look, there is one about funny 9/11 invincible childman
I'm waiting for Monsoons video.
@@l0sts0ul89 Of the memes of destruction
@@delpieroespinourriola909 of the sussy imposters
4:04 Considering Bloodlust becomes usable in Rising after defeating Sundowner, I guess you could say Raiden got the scissors (61) that the A.I. Colonel was asking for.
"I NEED SCISSORS!!!61!!!"
I cannot emphasize enough just what a treat it is to have an unrepentantly evil character in a story and have it make perfect sense and be beleivable, without sacrificing one iota of depth! That's practically unheard of, especially in the age of trying to make every character sympathetic no matter how little sense it makes or how badly it fits.
“Children can be cruel Jack, and I love minors”-Max0r
Insert Rock eye brow raise
Welcome to the Bastard
**NOW ACTIVATING WOMEN DEFLECTORS**
@@seansilv25 virginity shield, A C T I V A T E
@@seansilv25welcome to the bastard
Sundowner and Sam were the best characters in the game imo. I actually loved Sundowner's boss fight mostly because of the setting and the soundtrack. There's just something about fighting a boss on a roof while it's raining.
Sundowner, Sam, Monsoon and Armstrong are equally awesome. I can’t decide who I love more because none of them have a severe lack of character development like many other game characters.
@@kazuhiramiller7945 Agreed. Monsoon and Armstrong were also pretty great. Loved Monsoon's stage.
DMC3 be like.
@@gamechanger8908 That first Vergil boss fight in DMC3 is a masterpiece.
We need more boss fights with a rain setting in the background.
Most Metal Gear villains' motive: philosophical shit.
Sundowner's motive: Mo war crimes, Mo money!
“So the others have been spouting their philosophical bullshit, huh? Bunch of pussys. I’m gonna spare you the shit, I FUCKING LOVE KILLING PEOPLE FOR MONEY!!! I LIKE TO BATHE IN THE BLOOD OF MY ENEMIES!!!”
senator armstrong: long winded speech about fighting for what you truly believe in and some shit
sundowner: "i just wanna kill shit for no reason"
Mistral: The battlefield is my real home.
Monsoon: Pain is what makes us human.
Sam: I lost who I was on my climb to glory.
Sundowner: MO' WAR CRIMES EQUALS MO' MONEY!
Senator Armstrong: "say Jack, have you ever watched the movie Mad Max?"
Crispin Freeman NAILED this voice. Cruel without being melodramatic, compelling even when talking about war; badass even in death...all from the guy who played Winston in Overwatch."Peanut butler's a part of who we are!"
He voiced Alucard, you know.
@@svetoslavtanchev and also Superman which is ironic
@@jadenbryant9283and bunch of other video game and anime dub voices (most certainly that sarcastic tone he always gives).
Ok I'm going to call it the next metal gear rising character Meti is going cover is going to be either Monsoon or Senator armstrong
What abt mistral
@@freshmadgod maybe her but I see Meti doing Monsoon and Senator armstrong but I'm betting Meti going to cover every villain at any rate
Nano-Memes Jack!
@@dronoid4659 and you sir deserve a prize for the joke
"Sword swinging southerner, subjugating society systems to soldier scions, Sundower" One hell of alliteration.
METAL GEAR RISING WILL NEVER DIE
Good.
It shall go down in history for being that one game that features the greatest video game villain with little screen time.
@@FookMi69 wished the main game was longer
If you think about it the "memes" of the Game (scientifically and in a joke sense) succeeded to be passed into a new generation. I love watching this Game get tons of love after all these years. You guys are awesome. Cheers from Spain
One might say it's FUCKIN INVINCIBLE
I really hope you do monsoon soon, his view on nihilism and meme theory would be interesting to annalyse
Also his theme is a fucking banger
Your meme ends here
"How about 'Eat shit and die.' Is that a meme?"
The soundtrack is a banger.
Usually, the first playtrough goes like this:
"Did you learn to parry, you filthy casual?"
"Uuuuuhm no-"
"TOO BAD!!"
*gets clapped by Monsoon*
27 tries later...
"I've finally learnt! You're down to 40.0%!!"
*lyrics start playing*
"Uh oh"
"I have WON this!"
"Shit!!!"
And in Revengeance:
"So, do you still remember how to parry, you filthy casual?"
"Casual?! I've fully S-Ranked Very Hard, I can do this all day."
"Oh... Well, then- It doesn't matter! Your enemy will be the camera!!!"
"FFFUUUUUUUUUUU!!!"
THE MEMES JACK
Sundowner is fucking based he just like "yeah I've committed several war crimes, what's it to you?"
Meti: Talks about the history of Machetes being turned into weapons of war.
Also Meti: shows clips of Kukris instead of Machetes.
Now I'm just confused.
I saw that too lol, not trying to rip on the guy, I enjoyed the video, but it was funny.
A kukri is a machete that was from India
Machette is a very long knife/dagger type of melee weapon.
Kukri is an indian machette.
All kukris are a type of machete in the same way that all names are words
My first time playing this game (pretty recently)
I beat sundowner and I watched the uzaki anime right after, it goes to say how surprised I was when they referenced him
How?
Yes how
@@josesosa3337 th-cam.com/video/t_ssldRgr8s/w-d-xo.html
Fun fact,
There is another character who wears reactive armour for protection as well.
In metal gear acid 2, Harab Serap, the game's first boss has reactive armour worn around his fatigue trousers so it looks like a skirt. As a result, grenades and other explosions cannot affect him. He can also rocket punch you with his flesh hands and can regenerate new ones.
I just realized that Sam and Sundowner being friends explains why they share the same smile.
“Crispy the freeman” that is the best nickname
Country Fried Crispin Freeman
"and they get a sweet cybernetic body for graduating"
Little fun fact his swords have more in common (in design) with executioner swords. A two handed weapon with a square or extremely rounded tip designed to well.... take someone's head off
Real life events kind of gave me a different interpretation of Red Sun. I live in California and the fires that took place uncomfortably close to where I live changed the way the sun looked. With the smoke filling the air, the sun and atmosphere was pretty much red. There was also an ominous warm wind threatening to blow the embers of fire onward to other areas of dead and dry vegetation.
With that said, this became my interpretation of Red Sun: The hot wind blows, filled with fire and death. The vultures fly overhead, eyeing the easy pickings of the dead left on the ground. The smoke and fire of the battlefield has turned the sun blood red and that red sun shines over his idea of paradise, The chaos and destruction of war.
The tone and oblivous way he says "I want him... Dead." When asking what does he want from N'Mani
"I'm fuckin' invincible!!!"
- 114 pieces of meat and metal atop a skyscraper
Metal Gear Rising is perhaps one of my favorite games and the boss fights are thought provoking.
Even if you just met them once, you learn so much about their ideologies and morals before the fight begins
Even if it's a spin-off, it still fits inside the story telling of Metal Gear franchise
Yeah, they feel like people than just characters.
This dude is the most underrated villain in metal gear history i never hear anyone talk about this guy.
I like all of the music in MGR. However, I knew there was some reason why I liked "Red Sun" the most out of all of them. Sundowner was a great villain in my opinion. And while he may not be as difficult as Sam or Armstrong, I thought his fight was fun for what it was.
He didn't want money or fame, he simply liked killing people and saw it as a passion. Sundowner was a good old fashioned, bloodthirsty, bully. Sometimes a villain doesn't have to be complex, they just need a direct motive.
I agree. Sundowner is a character who can be flat-out evil, laugh about the murder he commits, look over the dissected brains of thousands of children ready to be implanted into a cyborg body, and other assorted crimes... and yet be one of the most charismatic, honest, and outright enjoyable villains of a story.
It's hard to make an unrepentant scumbag like Sundowner come across as entertaining to the point that you both love _and_ hate them. A good deal of villains will just make you hate them. But Sundowner manages to do both. You end up loving how evil he is, and he doesn't BS you about hidden motivations. He even describes himself as an "honest warmonger" trying to make a living. War is his common purpose, and that's what he loves.
This game is pretty great because of its big players with hidden agendas. Mistral wanting to find a place where a killer like her belongs. Monsoon being a slave to his nihilistic, defeatist views and bleak memes. Sam simply lacking the motivation to carry any form of ideal. And especially Armstrong, who believes that everyone should stand up for their beliefs no matter the cost, and control their destinies.
Not Sundowner, though. He just wants to wage war for fun, and believes that war is just something natural to humans. He never hides behind it or try to justify why he does evil things. He's pretty much, "Yeah, I wanna start wars because I have a lot of fun killing people and going to war."
That, my friends, is how you turn an awful excuse for a human being into a truly compelling villain.
The part "The reptile tail ripped from its back" makes me think of when Raiden cuts up the enemy cyborgs and rips their the spines out.
I mainly thought this because if you were to call a person "a reptile" you'd be saying they aren't human and cyborgs aren't completely human.
I know that's not what the song is saying, but it's cool thought
“Kids are cruel, Jack, and I love minors!”
- Sundowner, Probably
🤨📸 Sundowner is acting very suspicious?
At 8:24, a lyric references "machines come to transform Eden, day by day." The info on-screen claims that Eden is another name for Earth, but I believe that this line in particular may be in reference to the Garden of Eden, a place of peace originating from the beginning of the Christian Bible, in the book of Genesis. Eden was supposedly taken from mankind after the first sin was committed; in relation to the song's lyrics, I feel that the intended reference is that Sundowner is taking away people's peace by transforming their "Garden of Eden" into a bloody warzone.
Just my speculative take on the lyric.
For the character whose only defining trait I remembered is being Fucking Invincible, it's incredible to hear the comprehensive analysis about everything in his design. Well done.
I feel like Sundowner is underated, his design is great, have the six arms to deflect, swords that can turn into a claw, and a mask like Sam and Raiden
To me his shield things always reminded me of solar panels but red
Which I thought was cool since it fits his name "SUNdowner"
I've heard that his name could also represent a syndrome known as ''Sundowner's Syndrome'' , which is most common in Dementia patients . Which basically gives the patient(s) worse symptoms at night , then on daytime . This might represent his battle with Raiden semi-perfectly . Please take this with a grain of salt , just in case .
This is pretty exquisite, glad to see you doing MG stuff still. Love every video you do lad, keep being FUCKIN INVINCIBLE as always!!!!
Also it's always impressive how you manage to do these actually working lines with all words starting with the same letter, criative stuff.
Cheers from Brazil !
Man, i need to play these games to watch Meti's analysis
Probably not that hard to find i should play to as I enjoy the ost alot
That or watch the cutscenes and lore videos on TH-cam
MGR is on Steam for cheap
Do it. You won't regret it
Short game, lasting memory, you should play it.
Big boss: *Story and lore that interrupts the game.*
Sundowner: *The player that only wants the gameplay.*
"he was born in Alabama"
May explain as to why he's insane
Average Southern Male
Weirdly enough, i think his vision on human nature is very understandable.
ironic considering he is the most fucked-up wind of destruction.
Huh, werid, I'd like to hear you kinda explain it to me
Can I just say the child brains stuck in little casings with eyeballs is truly one of the most nightmarish things I have ever seen in media? Like holy fuck I'm just having a good time vibing and then THAT happens.
I guess it's not so bad when you consider they were all gonna get cool cyborg bodies anyway, right..? *right..?*
And turned into a semi-indentured labor force. Child workers instrad of child soldiers! Truly a triumph of liberal society and the free market!
Had to watch immediately. You're one of the main reasons why I played MGR, I just got it 3 weeks ago and it's absolutely spectacular, love almost every aspect of the game.
I can't wait for you to do Monsoon! He's probably my favourite bossfight in gaming history, and has one of my favourite songs ever too.
“Memes, the DNA of the soul...”
@@Slender_Man_186 wind blows, rain falls, the strong prey on the weak
Sonic the edgehog
The most honest villain in the series is being used by a guy who wants to use war economy the finally end it. That is why these characters are so great.
IT'S NOT AN HATE CRIME IF I LOVED DOIN' EVERY PART OF IT, JACK !!!
"Kids are cruel, Jack, and I love minors"
-Susdowner
8:23 personally I always interpreted the machine as being raiden since he is a cyborg, coming at full speed towards their organization leaving a path behind him of death that pulls the attention of sundowner and the others from the group. And Eden being the desperados group itself, his little murderous paradise where he was indeed, INVINCIBLE.
Another thing that highlights Sundowner's savagery, machetes are also heavily associated with the Rwandan genocide.
sundowner is one of my favorite characters, he is honest about his intentions and his theme is amazing!
war crimes and war: exist
sundowner: this. this is my favorite thing. I think about this every day. I lose sleep at night because of me thinking of this.
11:17 This scene sent a chill down my spine the first time I played the game, because I have clear memories of the pro-Iraq War crowd using this exact slogan back during the Bush II Years.
Other villains: "I kill because of my past"
Sundowner: *"pls die"*
"War crime this, can't eat the drywall that. Microwaving mice is wrong they said." - Buff Bezos
love to think at the begging of mgr sam was just like “you wanna go to liberia to kill like 50 people including the senator lol” and sundowner was just like “yeah sure”
"Alright, bet. Whoever kills more receive a raise."
Sundowner was voiced by Crispin Freeman?
Imagine Sundowner and Alucard having a debate on human nature, in the middle of battle of course
Thanks for the Hotline Miami 2 footage on an MGR video, really cool
As a sundowner enjoyer,I can confirm he is fucking invincible
11:58 actually, he didn't want a 9-11 2.0, he wanted another 9-12, notice the "Like he good old days *after* 9-11!"
I can’t help but feel like Sundowner was also somewhat inspired by Judge Holden from Blood Meridian. Both are giant hulking hairless dudes who are obsessed with war
Red Sun over paradise is still one of the best songs ever made for a video game.
8 years has passed but meti doesn't care and still make videos about rising, beautiful
Be grateful he at least died while being in character unlike what others claimed he wasn't. The dude was pure chaotic evil and always loved war. He died like a true hero. Loving what he liked.
He sacrificed himself to delay Raiden
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but the fact that Sundowner wields a pair of scissors might also reference his line about being in touch with his inner child, since children use scissors.
"Like I said, kids are cruel, Subaru. And I'm very in touch with my inner child."
-Usada Pekora. Usada Kensetsu LLC.
Peko-downer vs. Rai-baru!
I've never played this game, nor do I have any plans to, but I do want to know about some of the characters that occasionally pop up in the memes I see and with some of the best boss music I've ever heard. I think this video does a great job at teaching people what a character is like even if they have 0 prior context. So well done.
8:36 I thought it was "Violence Breeds within ourselves"
"Red Sun" may also be a reference to Blood Meridian; or, The Evening Redness in the West which is a 1985 epic historical novel by American author Cormac McCarthy. The character Sundowner is very similar to the character Judge Holden who is described as a large, hairless, pale, man who has a deep love for war and violence.
This man had such legendary lines. "Children are cruel, and I love minors"
Deserves a better boss fight if they do a remake.
I know i'm a little late but t's also important to note that his boss music is an absolute gift from god
14:27 “THATS HIS VOICE ACTOR?!”
I was watching Wendigoon’s video on Blood Meridian and found that the Judge is kinda similar to sundowner. He’s tall, bald, does weird things with kids and believes that brutal murder and violence are the most pure and moral things a person can do.
The fact that Sundowner was born and raised in my home state just reassures that Sundowner is my favorite character in MGR
These are definitely my favorite videos of yours. Hope to see the whole gang covered, eventually!
Sundowner fully embodies the hopes and dreams of Cold Steel videos
My favorite character in Metal Gear by far. Thank you for this video breakdown. Damn shame we didn't get more content for Sundowner.
“Sundowners syndrome” is also a commonly used term. Many older people experiencing cognitive decline become noticeably worse after the sunset. A person may be pleasant and stable during the day, but with sundowners actually start raving and crying and screaming that same night.
The ‘rising red sun’ is actually a reference to Sundowner’s past as a warmonger - the red sun is a term used for the mushroom cloud of a nuclear explosion.
If you listen to the lyrics of the song it actually makes a lot more sense like that.
Interestingly enough, with themes involving superpowers, we gauge their potential based on how destructive they can be or how well they can undo others.
I genuinely love the friendship between Sundowner and Sam, wish we got to see more of the two
Apologies if somebody has mentioned this already, but another reference to his name and "Red Sun"
US Navy Squadron VF-111 are called the "Sundowners", and their aircraft tails have the rising sun painted on them. Wouldn't doubt there's some inspiration for his name and rising sun motifs from there as well.
What's crazy is his theme is actually kind of poetic but is a story about effectively not caring anymore,he knows he's long since lost his mind but accepts it and embraces the violence because in his eyes blood spilt under the sun is beautiful in some strange way